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Anyone here done intermittent fasting?
Apparently glucose causes the common fat gut in males (and bodybuilders), and intermittent fasting reduces glucose.
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Anyone here done intermittent fasting?
Apparently glucose causes the common fat gut in males (and bodybuilders), and intermittent fasting reduces glucose.
I dont eat anything for 9 hours every day
I go to bed.
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fasting sounds very muslim to me you should stay away from it otherwise we will start calling you musliman-2017
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I fast for 24hrs once in 10 days, usually when I have lots of work to do. Your body takes a break from food and you don’t have to think about when and what you’re gonna eat. Refreshing
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Anyone here done intermittent fasting?
Apparently glucose causes the common fat gut in males (and bodybuilders), and intermittent fasting reduces glucose.
Why are you struggling with fat? I thought you're racially and IQ superior?
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Why are you struggling with fat? I thought you're racially and IQ superior?
I never claimed physical superiority over anyone. Except Shizzo.
It is true I have allowed myself to accumulate too much fat. I was super lean most of my life. I have shown a failure in character by eating poorly.
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maybe you have low iq?
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maybe you have low iq?
nope
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I fast for 24hrs once in 10 days, usually when I have lots of work to do. Your body takes a break from food and you don’t have to think about when and what you’re gonna eat. Refreshing
Can you tell me what benefits you have seen from doing that?
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fasting sounds very muslim to me you should stay away from it otherwise we will start calling you musliman-2017
haha that is sort of funny
maybe i will convert to Islam and embrace multiculturalism. Maybe I will marry a black woman too.
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I dont eat anything for 9 hours every day
I go to bed.
Ha. This & when we wake up we have Break-Fast
Quite simple.
Why do some want to make something special out of it.
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This bodybuilder John Cardillo use to fast one day a week during contest prep.
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Anyone here done intermittent fasting?
Apparently glucose causes the common fat gut in males (and bodybuilders), and intermittent fasting reduces glucose.
If you have high blood glucose and then do a fast eventually you’ll burn up some glycogen and then the glucose will be taken up from the blood into the muscles. But at the end of the day it still comes down to your total amount of calories As to whether or not you’ll accumulated body fat.
Glucose causes fat gain indirectly. When your blood sugar is high and your glycogen stores are full, your body will burn glucose when it otherwise would be burning fat and the fat ends up getting stored in the fat cells. Again, it still comes down to calories.
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Currently sitting @ sub-8 and for din din the other day i had a big king and double cheese burger and a double whooper wit cheese
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If you have high blood glucose and then do a fast eventually you’ll burn up some glycogen and then the glucose will be taken up from the blood into the muscles. But at the end of the day it still comes down to your total amount of calories As to whether or not you’ll accumulated body fat.
Glucose causes fat gain indirectly. When your blood sugar is high and your glycogen stores are full, your body will burn glucose when it otherwise would be burning fat and the fat ends up getting stored in the fat cells. Again, it still comes down to calories.
Thanks for the broscience. ::)
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Currently sitting @ sub-8 and for din din the other day i had a big king and double cheese burger and a double whooper wit cheese
sub 8 muscle %
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Thanks for the broscience. ::)
Most of the Bro science I learned was from 70s bodybuilders. It pretty much all turned out to be right.
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Most of the Bro science I learned was from 70s bodybuilders. It pretty much all turned out to be right.
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All their bodyfats are 7-8% there
Not even 6%
Interesting.....
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All their bodyfats are 7-8% there
Not even 6%
Interesting.....
The guy who ushered in the super ripped grainy look was Rich Gaspari and his technique was to use lots and lots of drugs.
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Do it and will never go back. The time I save only eating 6 to 8 hours per day blows my mind. I honestly never thought it would make that much of a difference but it does. Not having to worry about packing food around everywhere is nice. I feel less bloated...I don't have to chew gum/brush teeth as often because I'm not eating as often. Plus food is more satisfying as I'm not eating little to average meals....just one to two big satisfying meals plus some snacks. I always thought it was a bit bunk but after trying it I'm a big believer.
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i dont know eating for 6 to 8 hours per day seems a lot of work
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The guy who ushered in the super ripped grainy look was Rich Gaspari and his technique was to use lots and lots of drugs.
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That is 4%
Wonder what Arnie would have weighed @ 4%?
His best stage weight was 237 in 80 he only weighed 225, probably 210 @ 4% at 6'2"
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Do it and will never go back. The time I save only eating 6 to 8 hours per day blows my mind. I honestly never thought it would make that much of a difference but it does. Not having to worry about packing food around everywhere is nice. I feel less bloated...I don't have to chew gum/brush teeth as often because I'm not eating as often. Plus food is more satisfying as I'm not eating little to average meals....just one to two big satisfying meals plus some snacks. I always thought it was a bit bunk but after trying it I'm a big believer.
I do the same thing. I eat a normal lunch, then a big meal at dinner time. I do my workouts after work so I can go home and eat my big meal. All the science around timed eating is total BS. It doesn't matter when you eat as long as you get your calories in. Everyone should do what works for them. I like eating this way because I never liked eating throughout the whole day and feeling bloated all the time.
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Fasting boosts gh
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I do the same thing. I eat a normal lunch, then a big meal at dinner time. I do my workouts after work so I can go home and eat my big meal. All the science around timed eating is total BS. It doesn't matter when you eat as long as you get your calories in. Everyone should do what works for them. I like eating this way because I never liked eating throughout the whole day and feeling bloated all the time.
Yep, they finally did a study on the Lean Gains style of IF and unsurprisingly no difference when calories are equal when compared to a normal diet. Just comes down to preference.
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well let us say there's a long period between your last meal and when you go to bed, then follows 8 hours of sleep, then a few more hours before you eat lunch, that's a long time to go without food if youre trying to add muscle.
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well let us say there's a long period between your last meal and when you go to bed, then follows 8 hours of sleep, then a few more hours before you eat lunch, that's a long time to go without food if youre trying to add muscle.
crocodiles can go months without a meal, they are well muscled...
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crocodiles can go months without a meal, they are well muscled...
Wilder-beasts couldn't go a day without food before they become considerably weakened.
Take evolution into consideration you silly old man.
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Wilder-beasts couldn't go a day without food before they become considerably weakened.
Take evolution into consideration you silly old man.
that's because they eat a shitty meat free diet with zero fats...
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and with a smaller window to eat you have to eat more
if you only eat twice a day and eat 4000 calories thats 2000 caloriers per meal
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Prefer to not eat for half a day or so then eat normal sized meals the rest of the day than eat disgusting low calorie shit in tiny portions all day.
Don’t know or care if it offers any advantages over traditional ‘dieting’, not eating is very easy if you keep busy a lot of people eat through boredom
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and with a smaller window to eat you have to eat more
if you only eat twice a day and eat 4000 calories thats 2000 caloriers per meal
that's just greedy...
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Original thread...never brought up on this board before.
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Not the same, but similar. It's only a WYHI post if you want it to be.
Dr. Rhonda Patrick is a Ph.D in biomedical science and expert on nutritional health
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Original thread...never brought up on this board before.
Ever try using the search function on this board? The thread might as well not of happened.
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Ever try using the search function on this board? The thread might as well not of happened.
I was making a joke of how many times a thread on fasting has been started on this board...
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Everything works with enough gear. Nothing works without enough gear.
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well let us say there's a long period between your last meal and when you go to bed, then follows 8 hours of sleep, then a few more hours before you eat lunch, that's a long time to go without food if youre trying to add muscle.
long time based on what? broscience?
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long time based on what? broscience?
yes
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Just like anything else, it's pointless to discuss "in general". Could someone under some conditions "achieve their dreams" whith IF? I wouldn't be at all surprised -- but if you don't know anything else about them, how does it help you?
For a long time I told myself I could make something work for me because it worked for someone, somewhere. And at the same time, I used the exact same reasoning to dismiss just as many things I didn't like. ::)
In the end, you aren't free to pick and choose strategies without considering your own condition.
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Actually unintentionally, due to my work, I had to get by with only eating two large meals and one shake(before working out), it works great..............first meal is close to 1.3K Kcal(75P/130C/50F) and second meal is close to 1K Kcal (75P/75P/45F), the shake is close to 0.5K Kcal (50P/0C/30F)............give it a try
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I fasted to help me with slight fatty liver diagnosis, It also helped me through a weight plateau, im coming down then hill not climbing it as I age, and I want to continue to train the same and eat the same but its forcing me to hold a bodyweight I don't want to, with a good moderately clean diet I held around 250 at 6 foot , with fasting I managed to get to 238 and have my fatty liver improve considerably.
I trained at 4am didn't eat anything post workout which killed mentally, first meal was 9 am last meal 5pm, so fasting period each day was 16 hours.
Held that weight for a few years, then used some TRT recently ( 100mg week ) and put weight back on and I am now reattempting the process after cutting the TRT, I want to get to 230, TRT Is great but I just don't appreciate the weight gain and negative impact on resting heart rate. I can go from 59-62 to 72 with that weight gain and TRT use,which might be a valuable observation for someone.
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crocodiles can go months without a meal, they are well muscled...
they have very slow metabolism ;), some nasty ones in my neighbourhood :P
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crocodiles can go months without a meal, they are well muscled...
THat's because they are cold blooded and don't require constant energy from food to keep their blood warm like mammals.
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Anyone here done intermittent fasting?
Apparently glucose causes the common fat gut in males (and bodybuilders), and intermittent fasting reduces glucose.
Broscience and common sense indicates that it should increase glucose sensitivity. My main reason for not eating before the afternoon, is that I tend to not sleep well if I am hungry.
NN
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Broscience and common sense indicates that it should increase glucose sensitivity. My main reason for not eating before the afternoon, is that I tend to not sleep well if I am hungry.
NN
You just need one of those hot Nordic blondies to suck you off then you'll be able to sleep real well
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Anyone here done intermittent fasting?
Apparently glucose causes the common fat gut in males (and bodybuilders), and intermittent fasting reduces glucose.
I can easily live on just 1 meal per day, dinner around 6-7pm .
U should buy :The Warrior Diet by Ori Hofmekler & The Fast Diet by Dr.Michael Mosley , Mosley book is all about Intermittent Fasting,he also produced TV show on this subject.
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Sure fast away! All the best bodybuilders always speak highly of fasting... Arnold, Dorian, Coleman, Sergio, Cutler, Flex, Gaspari, Big Ramy. Fasting made them Champions. Everyone knows this.
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Not the same, but similar. It's only a WYHI post if you want it to be.
Dr. Rhonda Patrick is a Ph.D in biomedical science and expert on nutritional health
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She was most certainly hit with the ugly stick, but them big, fat titties cannot be denied.
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Soon we ll all be forced to fast once a year for a month. Its called Ramadan and our Muslims masters with force us to do it.
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Soon we ll all be forced to fast once a year for a month. Its called Ramadan and our Muslims masters with force us to do it.
most Muslims sneak food during Ramadan, I wouldn't worry.
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Anyone here done intermittent fasting?
Apparently glucose causes the common fat gut in males (and bodybuilders), and intermittent fasting reduces glucose.
Yes I do. I lost 200 pounds and this is how I now maintain. I skip breakfast and eat my first meal at 11 am then dinner at 6 pm and that's it for the day no snacks period. I start every morning with a few cups of black coffee and switch over to green tea with plenty of water(over a gallon) also for the rest of the day. My diet is plant based with a lot of fish. Almost everything is organic and all the meats are grass fed/free range. I am 6-3 and easily maintain at 200 pounds with simple walking and calisthenics everyday. So first meal typical is steamed veggies about 14 oz, and huge salad 4-5 cups, with herring approx. 7 oz, and desert is an apple. Dinner will be similar: fish or other meat with random veggies and/or salad and desert is usually frozen berries. All my supplements are from Life Extension.
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so your last meal is at 6, when do you go to bed midnight? thats 6 hours without anything
going to the movies? forget about eating anything
eating out with friends? forget about it
sounds more like a punishment than a life
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so your last meal is at 6, when do you go to bed midnight? thats 6 hours without anything
going to the movies? forget about eating anything
eating out with friends? forget about it
sounds more like a punishment than a life
I go to bed at 8 am and rise at 4 am as I am a morning person. I will check news, meditate/pray and drink my coffee before exercise then off to work. I do go out and eat, see friends and do what I like on occasion, however I do not look at food as entertainment. I used to and that what got me to 400 in the past. If I go out to a restaurant I will order like steak and asparagus or salmon and a salad etc.
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so your last meal is at 6, when do you go to bed midnight? thats 6 hours without anything
going to the movies? forget about eating anything
eating out with friends? forget about it
sounds more like a punishment than a life
First few days are kinda shitty but your body adapts to it.
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First few days are kinda shitty but your body adapts to it.
Exactly. Your body will "fat adapt", meaning it becomes really efficient at tapping into fat stores for energy not relying on cheap carbs for energy, so when you fast you do not get weak or lose focus. Sometimes I will add coconut oil and butter to my morning coffee. I do go through a crap load of cold pressed organic olive oil in my salads and on my veggies every day, so you could say i am doing Keto, however I do eat roots like Yuca and others my wife prepares as you should vary your carbs somewhat on a weekly basis.
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I go to bed at 8 am and rise at 4 am as I am a morning person. I will check news, meditate/pray and drink my coffee before exercise then off to work. I do go out and eat, see friends and do what I like on occasion, however I do not look at food as entertainment. I used to and that what got me to 400 in the past. If I go out to a restaurant I will order like steak and asparagus or salmon and a salad etc.
you're a senior citizen.
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First few days are kinda shitty but your body adapts to it.
your body might but your mind and social life doesnt
of course i can go through life without a shitload of things.
but why would i want to ?
how is eating like a prisoner considered a good thing? of course the body can adapt
that is besides the point.
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you're a senior citizen.
I am 47 actually
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Exactly. Your body will "fat adapt", meaning it becomes really efficient at tapping into fat stores for energy not relying on cheap carbs for energy, so when you fast you do not get weak or lose focus. Sometimes I will add coconut oil and butter to my morning coffee. I do go through a crap load of cold pressed organic olive oil in my salads and on my veggies every day, so you could say i am doing Keto, however I do eat roots like Yuca and others my wife prepares as you should vary your carbs somewhat on a weekly basis.
I've noticed that I end up catching a "second wind" around an hour or so before the earliest of the eating window (I was eating between 11am and 7pm) where I don't feel hungry anymore and get a boost of energy.
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your body might but your mind and social life doesnt
of course i can go through life without a shitload of things.
but why would i want to ?
how is eating like a prisoner considered a good thing? of course the body can adapt
that is besides the point.
Like most people I see at work and in this culture, you see food differently as I do. That's ok. Food to me is medicine not entertainment. Believe me my wife is an amazing cook and I have fantastic meals waiting for me at home after work, so I don't miss the restaurant meals which are in reality low grade fare that is not worth the money.
Like most people I see at work and in this culture, you see food differently as I do. That's ok. Food to me is medicine not entertainment. To each his own, it works for me. Believe me my wife is an amazing cook and I have fantastic meals waiting for me at home after work, so I don't miss the restaurant meals which are in reality low grade fare that is not worth the money.
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I am 47 actually
but mimic the lifestyle of people in a retirement home.
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but mimic the lifestyle of people in a retirement home.
I work about 60 hours a week so being disciplined helps me keep my schedule. This week, whatever hahaha.
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"sorry guys, it's after 7 i cant eat now!"
"common dude, youre not in jail anymore you CAN eat now!"
"sorry, im in my mental jail! cant do it!"
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"sorry guys, it's after 7 i cant eat now!"
"common dude, youre not in jail anymore you CAN eat now!"
"sorry, im in my mental jail! cant do it!"
Well I did eat late last night, had a bag of mixed nuts actually! ;D
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I go to bed at 8 am and rise at 4 am as I am a morning person. I will check news, meditate/pray and drink my coffee before exercise then off to work. I do go out and eat, see friends and do what I like on occasion, however I do not look at food as entertainment. I used to and that what got me to 400 in the past. If I go out to a restaurant I will order like steak and asparagus or salmon and a salad etc.
I go to bed at 11pm, I get up at 5am, I totally ignore the news, its all doom and gloom bullshit, I don't pray as I am a rational person and know full well God doesn't exist.
I eat what I want when I want, I don't count calories or macros I just use the mirror
Im 52
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I go to bed at 11pm, I get up at 5am, I totally ignore the news, its all doom and gloom bullshit, I don't pray as I am a rational person and know full well God doesn't exist.
I eat what I want when I want, I don't count calories or macros I just use the mirror
Im 52
I get my news from many international sources as I agree US news is terrible. I would rather sleep at least 7 hours and get get a full nights rest as the body regenerates and heals itself when you sleep not up late watching the boob tube or dumb Hollywood movies. As for praying, to each his own.
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wiseguy seems to be a good guy so im gonna try to direct my negativity in some other threads, and there's plenty :D
carry on
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wiseguy seems to be a good guy so im gonna try to direct my negativity in some other threads, and there's plenty :D
carry on
he seems odd but nice, Im out as well ;D
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Fasting is just convenient. No need to cram a breakfast in before work or worry about packing/bringing a lunch. A big satisfying meal at night so I can go to bed on a full stomach, and best of all it helps me stay slim w little effort.
The worst part of it is having to deal with morons who try to tell you that it's unhealthy or will lead to weight gain, etc. Bitch, I weigh the same weight I did when I graduated high school and you're pushing 250+ lbs
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Yeah it is call back surgery. :(
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if youre into bodybuilding and weigh the same as you did in highschool you are not doing it right
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if youre into bodybuilding and weigh the same as you did in highschool you are not doing it right
Im into the "health and fitness" lifestyle
yeah yeah I know, outed etc.
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I'm going to El Polo Loco right now to continue my fasting. I'm sure I'll see other bodybuilders and powerlifters there... because fasting is the key to big muscles.
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the no of hours NOT eating is interesting though, if, there is any benefit to it.
a 16 hour daily fast, might be tough for some.
but skipping breakfast and having 12+ hours of not eating, isnt very hard, if that qualifies for fasting? would be interesting to see if there's a difference between 12 hours of no food compared to 14-16 hours.
lots of people skip breakfast, but they dont see it as fasting...
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i think most eat something outta that 8 hour window, snacking etc
but lets say there is a benefit of fasting then surely its an easier sell with 12 hours to go without rather than 16
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lots of people skip breakfast, but they dont see it as fasting...
Doesn't mean it isn't...
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Doesn't mean it isn't...
what qualifies as fasting? and whats the difference
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and with a smaller window to eat you have to eat more
if you only eat twice a day and eat 4000 calories thats 2000 caloriers per meal
I don't eat 4000 calories per day. I'll get fat pretty quickly. 2500-3000 is usually the range I stay in. If I felt hungry or weak/tired, I would eat, but eating this way works great for me. I feel great.
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ive done a few fasts recently for other reasons
for weight loss I reccomend the honest to god 36 hour fast
no coffee, no lemon water, no BCAAs. nothing but water.
eat last meal Saturday night then do not eat till Monday morning
do this 1x a week every week and you will not become a fatty
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ive done a few fasts recently for other reasons
for weight loss I reccomend the honest to god 36 hour fast
no coffee, no lemon water, no BCAAs. nothing but water.
eat last meal Saturday night then do not eat till Monday morning
do this 1x a week every week and you will not become a fatty
Serious question - why do you feel 0 calorie beverages like the ones above need to be avoided?
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Serious question - why do you feel 0 calorie beverages like the ones above need to be avoided?
2 reasons
1. anything that is not water even if zero calorie your stomach has to break the down enzymes. so you want to give your stomach/body 100% day off. drink only water. i love bcaas, diet soda, coffee (all the zero calorie stuff) but i cut it out when I fast
2. also i am a firm believer in all or none. if you drink BCAAs when you fast... why not a pickle? they are only 5 calories, or a few chocolate chips ? so nothing but water. keeps you honest
there are many ways to fast, I have a large frame (midwest/german) and i am a firm believer in it to really lean up/trim down. but i only support the 24 hour fast or ideally the 36 hour fast for me. if you are a big dude - fasting is an easy way to get get in great shape without really doing much different. plus it saves you $100+ a month too..
it can really help with digestive problems which ive finally sorted out.
anyone asks me how to loose weight/get their health on track? eat a moderately clean diet and do 36 hour weekly fast.
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I'll do all the fasting I'll ever need when I'm dead.
What is it with all this nonsense Intermittent fasting ::)
Eat when your hungry don't eat when your not - simple,
why try to complicate things.
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ive done a few fasts recently for other reasons
for weight loss I reccomend the honest to god 36 hour fast
no coffee, no lemon water, no BCAAs. nothing but water.
eat last meal Saturday night then do not eat till Monday morning
do this 1x a week every week and you will not become a fatty
you can lose about 6-8lbs just clearing your digestive system of food and shit...
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I couldn't care less about what I weigh, I care about how I look. And after about 5-7 days of well-structured IF after a long time not doing it, I've tightened up quite a bit. Lost a lot of that water bloat / softness that I tend to get if I'm not eating on point. Not naturally lean, skinnyfat.
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2 reasons
1. anything that is not water even if zero calorie your stomach has to break the down enzymes. so you want to give your stomach/body 100% day off. drink only water. i love bcaas, diet soda, coffee (all the zero calorie stuff) but i cut it out when I fast
2. also i am a firm believer in all or none. if you drink BCAAs when you fast... why not a pickle? they are only 5 calories, or a few chocolate chips ? so nothing but water. keeps you honest
there are many ways to fast, I have a large frame (midwest/german) and i am a firm believer in it to really lean up/trim down. but i only support the 24 hour fast or ideally the 36 hour fast for me. if you are a big dude - fasting is an easy way to get get in great shape without really doing much different. plus it saves you $100+ a month too..
it can really help with digestive problems which ive finally sorted out.
anyone asks me how to loose weight/get their health on track? eat a moderately clean diet and do 36 hour weekly fast.
Thanks for the honest answer.
I get the "all or nothing" and the idea of resting the body, but I do get stuck with things like this though: if two people of similar genetic makeup do the same fast, but one drinks black coffee and lemon water and the other doesn't, do you think there would be any difference in terms of getting in shape?
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of course there will be no difference he's just a fanatic weirdo
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who drinks "lemon water?" and why ???
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who drinks "lemon water?" and why ???
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who drinks "lemon water?" and why ???
I do all day.
I don't like plain water too much. So I just put a shot of lemon juice in with 20-25 oz of ice water.
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pretty sure thats child abuse
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pretty sure thats child abuse
liberal....