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he says "i don't know what the guy's cause is" after he throws the shoe like a fuccking moron, this guy is the biggest disgrace we've had in this country's history, he's pathetic.
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Actually he showed some incredible ninja powers by dodging from close range.
And Carter is the biggest douche we have ever had as president....no contest.
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Actually he showed some incredible ninja powers by dodging from close range.
And Carter is the biggest douche we have ever had as president....no contest.
no way, Bush has Carter beat hands down in the most useless dept.
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Some more info.
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The guy was 0/2, not much of an athlete.
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Bush should be bombed with shoes from freedom loving people everywhere.
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no way, Bush has Carter beat hands down in the most useless dept.
We'll just have to agree to disagree then. 8)
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no way, Bush has Carter beat hands down in the most useless dept.
you are igorant
have we had another attack on U.S. soil since 9/11?
If going into iraq solved nothing more than getting saddam and his sons out of there- then so be it
if u disagree- perhaps you could ask some of Saddams victims that had their tongues cut out or were forced into nitric acid chambers?
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you are igorant
have we had another attack on U.S. soil since 9/11?
If going into iraq solved nothing more than getting saddam and his sons out of there- then so be it
if u disagree- perhaps you could ask some of Saddams victims that had their tongues cut out or were forced into nitric acid chambers?
hahahaha, epic calling someone ignorant and misspelling it. :D
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how great would it have been if bush was pegged right in the forehead with one of those shoes ;D
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he pisses on the Constitution, crerates laws that suit his whims, disregards others, attacks countries with false information leading to the deaths of thousands of people and then wonders why he's despised. ::)
but the hundreds of thousands saddam killed was justified?
if this shit happened in arkansas - everybody would go crazy
but just bc its "way over there" in iraq - dont worry about. they arent human beings, torture beyond imagination is ok right?
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he says "i don't know what the guy's cause is"
"but one thing is for certain, he caused you to ask me questions about it" HAHAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAHA
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bush has a forcefeild he learned from falconism, thus hes never effected by n e ting
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but the hundreds of thousands saddam killed was justified?
if this shit happened in arkansas - everybody would go crazy
but just bc its "way over there" in iraq - dont worry about. they arent human beings, torture beyond imagination is ok right?
Please,
You can use that same logic and apply it to 50 other countries as well
Shall we invade all those as well?
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Please,
You can use that same logic and apply it to 50 other countries as well
Shall we invade all those as well?
yes
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but the hundreds of thousands saddam killed was justified?
if this shit happened in arkansas - everybody would go crazy
but just bc its "way over there" in iraq - dont worry about. they arent human beings, torture beyond imagination is ok right?
typical Fox News propaganda, if you believe what they say you'd think he had millions of his own people killed. ::)
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watch these videos and tell me you still think getting rid of saddam was bad
http://fdd.typepad.com/fdd/2006/01/alert_saddams_c.html
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you are igorant
have we had another attack on U.S. soil since 9/11?
If going into iraq solved nothing more than getting saddam and his sons out of there- then so be it
if u disagree- perhaps you could ask some of Saddams victims that had their tongues cut out or were forced into nitric acid chambers?
The National Intelligence Estimate, the NIE, which is an aggregate of all United States Intelligence states that we are in more danger NOW and less safe NOW than ever which is due to the blowback of failed Iraqi and foreign policies. Therefore your supposition that Bush kept us safe is meaningless and not factual in nature.
You Read It Hear First: U.S. Less Safe from Terrorism
September 25, 2006
Newspaper reports over the weekend confirmed what the Center for American Progress and Foreign Policy magazine first concluded three months ago: Experts on national security and terrorism believe that America is less safe from terrorist assault than it was five years ago. This comes as the Democratic Policy Committee holds hearings today to discuss the failed planning and conduct of operations in Iraq with retired Major Generals John R.S. Batiste and Paul D. Eaton of the U.S. Army, and retired Colonel Thomas X. Hammes of the U.S. Marine Corps.
The press reports said that the Bush administration's new National Intelligence Estimate on Iraq concluded that America faces greater danger of terrorist attacks precisely because of the invasion of Iraq and its bloody aftermath. The NIE analysis, prepared in April, is the consensus conclusion of 16 U.S. government intelligence agencies.
This is essentially the same consensus conclusion that CAP and Foreign Policy discovered when we did our own independent polling at about the same time, asking over 100 of America's most esteemed terrorism and national security experts for their assessment of the war against terrorist networks. This survey, titled The Terrorism Index, mined the highest echelons of the U.S. national security establishment across the ideological spectrum for their insights on the war on terrorism.
The result, we know today, shows a surprising consensus among the experts inside and outside of the U.S. government about terrorism and U.S. national security. In our survey, a vast majority think that the world today is more dangerous for the American people. So, too, does the NIE. Over half of the experts we polled list Islamic animosity and the Iraq war as the main reasons why the world is becoming more dangerous. That's also the consensus conclusion of the NIE.
In our survey, fewer than two in 10 believe the United States is winning the war on terror. More than eight in 10 believe we are likely to face a terrorist attack on the scale of September 11 within the next 10 years. These experts put nuclear weapons and materials as the top threat, followed closely by weapons of mass destruction (WMD) as a whole and then terrorism. Only four percent rank Iran as the greatest threat.
The survey's conclusions aid our understanding of these threats, as well as the current capabilities and missteps of the U.S. government in fighting terrorism.
For more information on the survey, please see the following links:
Executive Summary and Methodology with Complete Terrorism Survey Results
The Terrorism Index: view report text on Center for American Progress site
The Terrorism Index: view report text on Foreign Policy magazine site
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Any excuse to kills some muslims is a good one.
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but the hundreds of thousands saddam killed was justified?
if this shit happened in arkansas - everybody would go crazy
but just bc its "way over there" in iraq - dont worry about. they arent human beings, torture beyond imagination is ok right?
there are places on earth where much worse things are happening to people than what saddam was doing to his people.. we should have never ever been in iraq.....and every human on planet earth ( except for 30% of americans) knows this is true.
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bush will have this man ripped apart and shredded in a body processor
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The National Intelligence Estimate, the NIE, which is an aggregate of all United States Intelligence states that we are in more danger NOW and less safe NOW than ever which is due to the blowback of failed Iraqi and foreign policies. Therefore your supposition that Bush kept us safe is meaningless and not factual in nature.
You Read It Hear First: U.S. Less Safe from Terrorism
September 25, 2006
Newspaper reports over the weekend confirmed what the Center for American Progress and Foreign Policy magazine first concluded three months ago: Experts on national security and terrorism believe that America is less safe from terrorist assault than it was five years ago. This comes as the Democratic Policy Committee holds hearings today to discuss the failed planning and conduct of operations in Iraq with retired Major Generals John R.S. Batiste and Paul D. Eaton of the U.S. Army, and retired Colonel Thomas X. Hammes of the U.S. Marine Corps.
The press reports said that the Bush administration's new National Intelligence Estimate on Iraq concluded that America faces greater danger of terrorist attacks precisely because of the invasion of Iraq and its bloody aftermath. The NIE analysis, prepared in April, is the consensus conclusion of 16 U.S. government intelligence agencies.
This is essentially the same consensus conclusion that CAP and Foreign Policy discovered when we did our own independent polling at about the same time, asking over 100 of America's most esteemed terrorism and national security experts for their assessment of the war against terrorist networks. This survey, titled The Terrorism Index, mined the highest echelons of the U.S. national security establishment across the ideological spectrum for their insights on the war on terrorism.
The result, we know today, shows a surprising consensus among the experts inside and outside of the U.S. government about terrorism and U.S. national security. In our survey, a vast majority think that the world today is more dangerous for the American people. So, too, does the NIE. Over half of the experts we polled list Islamic animosity and the Iraq war as the main reasons why the world is becoming more dangerous. That's also the consensus conclusion of the NIE.
In our survey, fewer than two in 10 believe the United States is winning the war on terror. More than eight in 10 believe we are likely to face a terrorist attack on the scale of September 11 within the next 10 years. These experts put nuclear weapons and materials as the top threat, followed closely by weapons of mass destruction (WMD) as a whole and then terrorism. Only four percent rank Iran as the greatest threat.
The survey's conclusions aid our understanding of these threats, as well as the current capabilities and missteps of the U.S. government in fighting terrorism.
For more information on the survey, please see the following links:
Executive Summary and Methodology with Complete Terrorism Survey Results
The Terrorism Index: view report text on Center for American Progress site
The Terrorism Index: view report text on Foreign Policy magazine site
has another attack happened yes or no?
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hahahaha, epic calling someone ignorant and misspelling it. :D
He's an idiot, hahahahahahha
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Any excuse to kills some muslims is a good one.
there are plenty of decent, normal muslims that leave productive lives just like anyone else.
its the jihad extremists that causes problems
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Actually he showed some incredible ninja powers by dodging from close range.
And Carter is the biggest douche we have ever had as president....no contest.
Hahahahahaha! He trained in the matrix!
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I'm impressed with President Bush's dodging skills for age 60+ :D
I'm sure he plays a mean game of dodgeball ;D
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watch these videos and tell me you still think getting rid of saddam was bad
It's good saddam is gone - but - ask those 4200 American families if losing their loved one was worth it.
There are a lot of bad guys in this world. Are they worth American lives? I say no.
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The Bush Administration Has Not Made America More Secure From Terrorism
July 30, 2007
On July 17, the nation’s 16 intelligence agencies issued a National Intelligence Estimate (NIE) assessing The Terrorist Threat to the U.S. Homeland. According to the declassified summary of its key judgments, the greatest homeland security threat we face today comes from al Qaeda and its affiliated terrorist networks. The estimate reports that al Qaeda has rebuilt its capacity to attack America, operating out of its safe haven in Pakistan, while drawing on the support of regional terrorist groups to enhance its capabilities, spread its extremist ideology, and win new recruits.
According to the July 2007 NIE:
Al Qaeda represents a very serious threat to America’s security. “Al Qaeda will remain the most serious terrorist threat to the Homeland, as its central leadership continues to plan high-impact plots.”
Al Qaeda has reconstituted its ability to strike America and is actively operating and plotting attacks against the United States from its safe haven in Pakistan. “We assess the group has protected or regenerated key elements of its Homeland attack capability, including a safehaven in the Pakistan Federally Administered Tribal Areas.”
The war in Iraq is serving as a powerful recruiting tool for al Qaeda, providing the group with access to new resources, operatives and supporters. “We assess that al-Qa’ida will probably seek to leverage the contacts and capabilities of al-Qa’ida in Iraq (AQI), its most visible and capable affiliate and the only one known to have expressed a desire to attack the Homeland. In addition, we assess that its association with AQI helps al-Qa’ida to energize the broader Sunni extremist community, raise resources, and to recruit and indoctrinate operatives, including for Homeland attack.”
To the great detriment of U.S. security, the Bush Administration has failed to grasp the nature of al Qaeda’s continued and resurgent threat and has proven incapable of advancing a viable strategy to respond to it. This NIE is the latest evidence that the Administration is losing ground in the war on terrorism, and that its flawed strategy in Iraq is empowering al Qaeda and making us less safe at home. Recent statements from the President show that the White House continues to be out of step with the intelligence community. It is time that the Bush Administration stop spinning the intelligence, level with the American people, and rethink its national security strategy.
The July 2007 NIE Provides the Latest Evidence that the Bush Administration’s National Security Strategy is Failing to Combat the Threat of al Qaeda and other Terrorist Networks
The Intelligence Community assesses that al Qaeda has secured safe haven in Pakistan and has rebuilt its capacity. The NIE shows that nearly six years after 9/11 and the President’s declaration of war against terrorism, the Bush Administration has failed to eliminate al Qaeda’s threat to the homeland and also has failed in its fundamental mission to prevent al Qaeda from gaining a safe haven. According to John Kringen, Deputy Director for Intelligence at the CIA, “We actually see the Al Qaida central being resurgent in their role in planning operations. They seem to be fairly well settled into the safe haven and the ungoverned spaces of Pakistan there. We see more training. We see more money. We see more communications. So we see that activity rising.” (John Kringen, Testimony before the House Armed Services Committee, 7/11/07)
· The Bush Administration is out of step with the Intelligence Community. “There is a perception in the coverage that al Qaeda may be as strong today as they were prior to September the 11th. That’s just simply not the case.” (President Bush, Press Conference, 7/12/07)
Other key measures in the war on terror show that the Bush Administration’s strategy is losing ground in the fight against al Qaeda and terrorist networks:
The Bush Administration has failed to bring those responsible for 9/11 to justice: 2,143 days have passed since September 11, 2001, and Osama bin Laden has not been captured. The Bush Administration has failed to capture or kill the key architects of the 9/11 attacks. Osama bin Laden, the head of al Qaeda, and his deputy, Ayman al Zawahiri, continue to lead and inspire thousands of extremists around the world. (as of 7/26/07)
The Bush Administration has failed to stop major increases in global terrorist attacks. After reaching a 20-year high in 2003, the number of worldwide terrorist attacks has grown dramatically in recent years, increasing more than threefold since 2004. The increases have been particularly dramatic in Iraq and Afghanistan where terrorist incidents rose 91 percent and 52 percent respectively, over the past year. (State Department Country Reports on Terrorism, 4/30/07)
The Bush Administration has failed to win the battle of ideas that would “drain the swamp” of extremism. Bush policies have created a whole new generation of extremists aiming to kill Americans rather than “draining the swamp” of extremism, and have allowed the creation of new safe havens for terrorists. From its misguided strategy in Iraq to its inadequate commitment to stabilizing and rebuilding Afghanistan and inattention to other critical issues in the Arab and Muslim world, the Bush Administration’s policies have had a destabilizing and radicalizing effect.
The July 2007 NIE Is the Latest Evidence That the Bush Administration Has It Wrong On Iraq
The NIE shows that the Bush Administration’s strategy in Iraq is actually helping to empower al Qaeda and leaving us less safe at home.
The Intelligence Community assesses that Iraq is not the front line in the fight against terrorism. According to the July 2007 NIE, al Qaeda has reconstituted its capacity and is directing operations from its safe haven in Pakistan. Testifying on the implications of the NIE on al Qaeda, Edward Gistaro, National Intelligence Officer at the CIA, stated that the intelligence community is primarily concerned about al Qaeda operating out of Pakistan – not Iraq:
Representative Andrews: Are they more capable or less capable of attacking us from the FATA [the Pakistan Federally Administered Tribal Areas] relative to Iraq?
Mr. Gistaro: Sir, I think the estimate speaks pretty clearly that we are primarily concerned with Al Qaida in South Asia.
Representative Andrews: So they’re more capable in the FATA areas than they are in Iraq, right?
Mr. Gistaro: Yes, sir.
(Edward Gistaro, Testimony before the House Armed Services and Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, 7/12/07)
· The Bush Administration is out of step with the Intelligence Community. “So on my orders, good men and women are now fighting the terrorists on the front lines in Iraq.” (President Bush, 7/12/07)
The Intelligence Community assesses that fighting in Iraq is not making us safer at home. According to the July 2007 NIE, continued U.S. operations in Iraq are actually making us less safe by “help[ing] al Qaeda energize the broader Sunni extremist community, raise resources, and to recruit and indoctrinate operatives, including for Homeland attacks.” (National Intelligence Estimate, July 2007)
· The Bush Administration is out of step with the Intelligence Community: “9/11 taught us that to protect the American people, we must fight the terrorists where they live so that we don't have to fight them where we live.” (President Bush 5/23/07)
These judgments of the July 2007 NIE bolster other assessments made by the intelligence community and terrorism experts:
National Intelligence Director McConnell says Al Qaeda in Afghanistan/Pakistan is much more likely to plan next attack on U.S. than terrorists in Iraq:
Senator Jack Reed: “Well, the question would be: If you had to establish a probability of a successful attack being organized and directed against the United States, would it emanate from Pakistan, with this newly revised Al Qaida leadership, or would it come out of Iraq?”
National Intelligence Director McConnell: “My belief is the attack most likely would be planned and come out of the leadership in Pakistan.” (Senate Armed Services Committee Hearing, 2/27/07)
April 2006 National Intelligence Estimate: The Iraq war created new terrorists. According to the April 2006 NIE, Iraq has become a “cause celebre’ for jihadists, breeding a deep resentment of U.S. involvement in the Muslim world and cultivating supporters for the global jihadist movement.” (National Intelligence Estimate, April 2006)
Peter Bergen, terrorism expert: The Iraq war has allowed al Qaeda to reinvent itself. “The Iraq War has also encouraged Muslim youth around the world to join jihadist groups, not necessarily directly tied to Al Qaeda but often motivated by a similar ideology. The Iraq War allowed Al Qaeda, which was on the ropes in 2002 after the United States had captured or killed two-thirds of its leadership, to reinvent itself as a broader movement because Al Qaeda’s central message – that the United States is at war with Islam – was judged by significant numbers of Muslims to have been corroborated by the war in Iraq. And compounding this, the wide dissemination of the exploits of jihadist groups in Iraq following the invasion energized potential and actual jihadists across the world. (“The Iraq Effect,” Mother Jones, March/April 2007)
Steve Simon, terrorism expert: U.S. presence in Iraq has been a “godsend to jihadists.” “The large presence of U.S. ground forces has had little effect on Iraqi politics, or on the insurgency… At the same time, the presence of U.S. fores is a godsend to jihadists. Talk of a Korea-like commitment and an elaborate base structure, alongside an unwillingness to discuss a timetable for withdrawal, has fueled suspicion and further energized the jihad.” (Testimony before the House Armed Services Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations, 7/17/07)
More Than Four Years into the War, the Bush Administration Continues to Spin Intelligence on Iraq, Is Unwilling to Level with the American People
In a speech to U.S. troops at Charleston Air Force Base on July 24, President Bush used the recently-released NIE to make his case for staying the course in Iraq, promoting what many intelligence analysts and terrorism experts have assessed as a misrepresentation of the realities on the ground in Iraq. His speech contradicted the assessments of the intelligence community by promoting the notion that al Qaeda is the central front in the war on terror, and conflating the al Qaeda terrorists responsible for 9/11 with al Qaeda in Iraq.
· “The key theater in this global war is Iraq.” (President Bush, July 24, 2007)
· “If we were not fighting these al Qaida extremists and terrorists in Iraq, they would not be leading productive lives of service and charity. Most would be trying to kill Americans and other civilians elsewhere – in Afghanistan, or other foreign capitals, or on the streets of our own cities.” (President Bush, July 24, 2007)
Robert Grenier, former head of the counter-terrorism center at the CIA, says President’s speech is “fundamentally misleading.” “I think what the president is saying is in some sense fundamentally misleading… If he means to suggest the invasion of Iraq has not created more jihadists bent on killing Americans, and that if Iraq hadn’t been there as a magnet they would have been attracted somewhere else, that’s completely disingenuous.” (Los Angeles Times, 7/25/07)
Abraham Wagner, a senior researcher at the Center for Advanced Studies on Terrorism at Columbia University, says President’s speech was a “spin job.” “’In the Cold War it was called ‘threat lumping,’ Wagner said. ‘It is creating a threat to justify what you are doing. Al Qaeda in Iraq never existed prior to the US activity in Iraq and I think it is still a small operation.’ ‘It is unfortunate,’ he added, that ‘the administration, in their last gasp to justify what they are doing, are inventing threats and misrepresenting what they are getting from the intelligence community.’” (Boston Globe, 7/26/07)
The July 2007 NIE Provides the Latest Evidence that Changing the Course in Iraq Will Enable Us to More Effectively Fight Terrorism, and Protect the U.S. Homleland
The NIE shows that:
Changing course will allow us to more effectively fight terrorism by refocusing our efforts to eliminate al Qaeda’s safe haven in Pakistan,
Changing course and reducing our presence in Iraq will eliminate a key recruiting tool and source of ideological inspiration for al Qaeda;
Changing course will allow us to restore the readiness of our military forces, which have been stretched dangerously thin by operations in Iraq; and
Changing course will make us more safe.
Democrats recognize the dangerous and growing terrorist threat and have taken significant steps to counter it
Senate Democrats demanded a change of course in Iraq so that the United States can refocus our resources on the battle against al Qaeda and other terrorist threats. Over the past several months, Democrats have advanced a number of measures to change in policy in Iraq, to transition the mission of U.S. forces and advance a new comprehensive economic, diplomatic, and political strategy to bring stability to the country and bring to a close the United States’ open-ended commitment in Iraq.
In the final version of the 2007 Emergency Supplemental, Democrats took a critical step forward in holding the President and the Iraqi government accountable for Iraq’s future and advancing the goal of changing course in Iraq. The legislation conditions U.S. economic support for the Iraqi government on its progress toward achieving key political benchmarks and also requires the President to report to Congress on the Iraqi government’s success in meeting these benchmarks.
In the months ahead, Senate Democrats will continue to take every opportunity to push for a change of course in Iraq. While ensuring continued counter-terror operations inside Iraq and further training of Iraqi security forces, Democrats’ comprehensive plan for a phased withdrawal of U.S. combat troops will allow us to turn our attention and resources to the more critical fight of hunting down Osama bin Laden, countering the threat posed by al Qaeda and affiliated terrorist networks, and addressing other important issues both at home and abroad.
Senate Democrats provided increased funding for reconstruction and assistance initiatives to stabilize Afghanistan and counter the threat from the Taliban, al Qaeda and other terrorists. In the 2007 Emergency Supplemental bill, Senate Democrats provided $909.9 million for reconstruction programs and State Department operations in Afghanistan, which represents an increase of $189 million above the President’s request. Additional funds are provided for Provincial Reconstruction Teams, rural counter-narcotics initiatives, development, agriculture and humanitarian assistance. These initiatives are focused primarily in provinces targeted by the Taliban.
Senate Democrats passed legislation to address critical unfilled recommendations of the 9/11 Commission. This year, Democrats have led the effort to pass the Improving America’s Security Act of 2007. The legislation takes a major step toward fully implementing the recommendations of the bipartisan 9/11 Commission and effectively marks a change of course after years of inadequate action on critical homeland security needs. The bill will make America more secure by giving our first responders the tools they need to keep us safe; making it more difficult for potential terrorists to travel into our country; advancing efforts to secure our rail, air, and mass transit systems; and improving intelligence and information sharing at all levels of state, local, and federal law enforcement.
Democrats secured increased emergency funding to better secure American borders, ports, and transit systems against terrorist threats. The 2007 Emergency Supplemental bill also provides $1.05 billion in funding necessary to address dangerous border and transit vulnerabilities left open by the Bush Administration since 9/11. This allocation includes hundreds of millions of dollars to protect American rail and mass transportation systems, install Explosive Detection Systems at airports, screen air cargo, and implement security measures at our nation’s ports.
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bush will have this man ripped apart and shredded in a body processor
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH
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(http://i38.tinypic.com/2q04pdg.jpg)
There are 25 million Saddams in Iraq, they will never bow for the infidels.
Lets hope the Don from Tikrit hasnt died for nothing.
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I'm impressed with President Bush's dodging skills for age 60+ :D
He was a pretty dedicated weightlifter at the University of Texas compound at one time.
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It's good saddam is gone - but - ask those 4200 American families if losing their loved one was worth it.
There are a lot of bad guys in this world. Are they worth American lives? I say no.
not to mention the TENS OF THOUSANDS OF IRAQI LIVES AND THE TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS WASTED ON THIS BULLSHIT.
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It's good saddam is gone - but - ask those 4200 American families if losing their loved one was worth it.
There are a lot of bad guys in this world. Are they worth American lives? I say no.
soldiers know what they get into when they sign up. life or death IS their job. certainly its bad when an american dies, but war is war.
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It's pointless trying to tell him these things, he's just another "Southern Dummy Republican"
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has another attack happened yes or no?
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There hasn`t been any of significance even attempted.
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Does America realize the meaning of every Iraqi becoming a missile that can cross to countries and cities?
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not to mention the TENS OF THOUSANDS OF IRAQI LIVES AND THE TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS WASTED ON THIS BULLSHIT.
Hahahahaha. This world is pathetic. They caused the war for the better employment.
But the cost of this war is the base of the economic crisis of now.
Just Pathetic.
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not to mention the TENS OF THOUSANDS OF IRAQI LIVES AND THE TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS WASTED ON THIS BULLSHIT.
what would you have suggested we do dave?
You cant blame all the misconceptions on Bush- it wasnt "just him" that declared war. he had TONS OF PEOPLE, MANY ADVISORS saying that there were WMD.
you cant possibly think Iraq would be a better place today had we left it alone
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Hahahahaha. This world is pathetic. They caused the war for the better employment.
But the cost of this war is the base of the economic crisis of now.
Just Pathetic.
no thats not the reason dude
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Hahahahaha. This world is pathetic. They caused the war for the better employment.
But the cost of this war is the base of the economic crisis of now.
Just Pathetic.
really? i was thinknig it was do to banks giving loans to people they couldnt fucking pay back. ::)
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what would you have suggested we do dave?
You cant blame all the misconceptions on Bush- it wasnt "just him" that declared war. he had TONS OF PEOPLE, MANY ADVISORS saying that there were WMD.
you cant possibly think Iraq would be a better place today had we left it alone
yes it would have been, are we supposed to be the world's police dept.? send troops in to every country with a dictator?
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really? i was thinknig it was do to banks giving loans to people they couldnt fucking pay back. ::)predatory lenders giving loans to people who couldnt pay the adjusted rate mortages once the rates were agjusted
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And what if he had WMD, America has tons of them, why can usa have them and Iraq not?
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soldiers know what they get into when they sign up. life or death IS their job. certainly its bad when an american dies, but war is war.
Yes - but - Americans trust their President to use military force only when it's absolutely necessary.
Saddam was a POS and all - but once we were lined up to invade, he did call us and surrender. He blinked. He agreed to all terms, which had been limited to everything but searching his personal residences. He did cave at that last minute. This was 24 hours before the attack in Mar 2003.
Bush had a chance to accept his win without firing a single shot.
Instead, he had them drop a JDAM into the building where the call came from, and started the war.
Just as with Afghanistan - where the Taleban offered to turn Bin Laden over to the world court/Hague no questions asked, or deliver him in a box to USA if we showed his involvement - Bush declined and decided war was a better option.
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what would you have suggested we do dave?
You cant blame all the misconceptions on Bush- it wasnt "just him" that declared war. he had TONS OF PEOPLE, MANY ADVISORS saying that there were WMD.
you cant possibly think Iraq would be a better place today had we left it alone
no he didnt, tons of people were telling him there were no wmd at all and that iraq was not an immidiete threat, but bush and cheney and co. decided to change the evidence, focus on outdated reports that supported their worldview..ect ect..
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yes it would have been, are we supposed to be the world's police dept.? send troops in to every country with a dictator?
I "get" what you are saying.. America: be nice to us or we'll bring democracy to your country ::) and i do not agree with that ok
BUT - you think saddam was just a peaceful fucking man gonna leave the rest of the world alone and live in harmony? it would have happened sooner or later
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Classic! ;D Nice one TA.
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I bet that journalist will not live to see tomorrow or will end up in guantanimo bay
what if he had a gun? where is the secret service? ???
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really? i was thinknig it was do to banks giving loans to people they couldnt fucking pay back. ::)
Yes. Its a subprime lending problem.
But if they dont have this huge loss of money, America could recover more easily.
Now a day, the war is always planned to save the world economic catastrofy.
Now America even dont have money to cause the war to give a good empoyment and fix the economy.
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what would you have suggested we do dave?
You cant blame all the misconceptions on Bush- it wasnt "just him" that declared war. he had TONS OF PEOPLE, MANY ADVISORS saying that there were WMD.
you cant possibly think Iraq would be a better place today had we left it alone
boonstack,
those quotes were made by people all over the world BEFORE we got the UN inspections in nov 2002.
They got the search, and they found nothing. No WMD were there.
You won't find any quptotes from spring of 2003, because by then we all knew there were no WMD. Still, the US war machine was setting up for the march attack.
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yes it would have been, are we supposed to be the world's police dept.? send troops in to every country with a dictator?
LOL, in "Boonstacks" fairy tale world , we would march into 84 different countries, overthrow their dictators and leave every citizen with brand new corvettes in about a day
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no he didnt, tons of people were telling him there were no wmd at all and that iraq was not an immidiete threat, but bush and cheney and co. decided to change the evidence, focus on outdated reports that supported their worldview..ect ect..
but WHEN? 1 year? 3 years? 8 years?
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They didn't arrest him. Do you think they returned his shoes to him?
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Bush Senior should have got rid of Saddam in the first Gulf war, then all this BS wouldn't havebeen necessary.
would ave been priceless if the shoe would have hit him right in the face.
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but WHEN? 1 year? 3 years? 8 years?
never.. iraq aint shit and saddam aint shit.. the us intelligence and military is fucking fantastic.. you know how much money we spend on that shit? .. dont believe for one damn second, even now with our economy in the tube and china holding our financial future by the nuts, that we dont have the power and intelligence to do and control whatever the fuck we want to. no little thrid world country gay ass muslim extremist bitches gonna do shit to america, believe that..not unless america lets em do it.
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Bush Senior should have got rid of Saddam in the first Gulf war, then all this BS wouldn't havebeen necessary.
would ave been priceless if the shoe would have hit him right in the face.
First gulf war? What the hell? We were supporting Iraq and Saddam against Iran way before that. He gased thousands of people including Kurds and the U.S. didn't do or say shit to him. Saddam was a bad man and had the full backing of the fucking U.S. Some of you are really ignorant about politics and our support for other countries.
Now for the video..............haha Bush is pretty fucking skilled to dodge those shoes! :) What a fucking disgrace he is. This country has hit a new fucking low where a reporter would throw shoes at our President.
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The mistake we make is that we mirror our society with middle eastern countries, Iraq has a violent history and Saddam is not real different from previous Iraqi rulers.
Iraq is too young for democracy. change should come in small steps and should certainly not be imposed to them.
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The mistake we make is that we mirror our society with middle eastern countries, Iraq has a violent history and Saddam is not real different from previous Iraqi rulers.
Iraq is too young for democracy. change should come in small steps and should certainly not be imposed to them.
are you from Iraq? ???
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Jenna Bush is gonna quit alcohol and run for president just to get revenge on that shoe thrower guy.
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Jenna Bush is gonna quit alcohol and run for president just to get revenge on that shoe thrower guy.
will you join her?
don't make me throw a shoe at you.
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First gulf war? What the hell? We were supporting Iraq and Saddam against Iran way before that. He gased thousands of people including Kurds and the U.S. didn't do or say shit to him. Saddam was a bad man and had the full backing of the fucking U.S. Some of you are really ignorant about politics and our support for other countries.
Now for the video..............haha Bush is pretty fucking skilled to dodge those shoes! :) What a fucking disgrace he is. This country has hit a new fucking low where a reporter would throw shoes at our President.
What I meant was Us troops had a great opportunity to capture Saddam years ago
Now they turned Iraq from one of the wealthiest countries in the Middle East into the shithole it is now, by economic embargo.
And finally after ten years they capture the bastard. Should have done it years ago and not take it out on the Iraq people.
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will you join her?
don't make me throw a shoe at you.
no, i dont think starting a war to avenge your Daddy is good foreign policy. ;)
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striking a blow for freedome one shoe at a time
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there are plenty of decent, normal muslims that leave productive lives just like anyone else.
its the jihad extremists that causes problems
Nah, just weed them all out.
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Keith Olberman is gonna go wild with this tomorrow on msnbc!! :D
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Shoe tosser had been kidnapped and beaten previously.
His release:
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L19159708.htm
Nov 19 (Reuters) - An Iraqi TV journalist who was kidnapped last week in a busy Baghdad neighbourhood said he was released unharmed before dawn on Monday.
Muntazer al-Zaidi, a correspondent for the independent al- Baghdadiya television station, said he spent more than two days blindfolded, barely eating and drinking, after armed men forced him into a car as he walked to work on Friday morning in the bustling Bab al-Sharji area of central Baghdad.
"My release is a miracle. I couldn't believe I was still alive," Zaidi, 28, told Reuters by telephone.
Zaidi said the kidnappers had beaten him until he lost consciousness. They used his necktie to blindfold him and bound his hands with his shoelaces...(more)
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Glad bush got pwned.......wish the shoe did hit him.He did a number on this country. >:(
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i wish it hit him, that could have been the funniest clip in political history.
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i agree. wish he got nailed. that woulda been beautiful...lol
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GOD DAMN IT...That Iraqi should have been a PALESTINIAN...They know how to throw shit.. They would have hit Bush square in the middle of his forehead TWICE before he got a chance to duck...DAMN...A wasted opportunity....
If any Iraqis are reading this message...make sure you leave the shoe and bomb throwing to the Palestinians from now on...they are truly the UNDISCOVERED baseball players...
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APPARENTLY THE TERRORISTS ARE LOW ON FUNDING.
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And Carter is the biggest douche we have ever had as president....no contest.
Really? And what douchey act did Carter do?
For someone to get that close and throw an object at the President of the USA shows that Iraq is certainly not a safe place to be.
Mad dodgeball skills by W.
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never.. iraq aint shit and saddam aint shit.. the us intelligence and military is fucking fantastic.. you know how much money we spend on that shit? .. dont believe for one damn second, even now with our economy in the tube and china holding our financial future by the nuts, that we dont have the power and intelligence to do and control whatever the fuck we want to. no little thrid world country gay ass muslim extremist bitches gonna do shit to america, believe that..not unless america lets em do it.
Straight up gangsta shit right there
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Islamic countries are incapable of having functioning democracies
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Too bad dude didn't have a hand grenade or a Molitov cocktail.
PS. bush is a freak. And not the good kind.
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I think all of the 533,000 people that lost their jobs last month would have liked to throw their shoes at bush, so this guy just did it for them ;D
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all kidding aside, the lack of response by the secret service was disgusting.
it was only after the reporter threw the SECOND shoe that they rushed him.
Horrible job. That guy should have been knocked unconscious and/or tackled after screaming and throwing the first shoe. They all just stood there. And it's not like they should be too relaxed - they were in a foreign nation in a room full of unknown entities.
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all kidding aside, the lack of response by the secret service was disgusting.
it was only after the reporter threw the SECOND shoe that they rushed him.
Horrible job. That guy should have been knocked unconscious and/or tackled after screaming and throwing the first shoe. They all just stood there. And it's not like they should be too relaxed - they were in a foreign nation in a room full of unknown entities.
240 come mon. they are in iraqi a soverign country. the secret service was there and it was just an iraqi reporter with two shoes. come off it already.
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all kidding aside, the lack of response by the secret service was disgusting.
it was only after the reporter threw the SECOND shoe that they rushed him.
Horrible job. That guy should have been knocked unconscious and/or tackled after screaming and throwing the first shoe. They all just stood there. And it's not like they should be too relaxed - they were in a foreign nation in a room full of unknown entities.
Agreed.
I was kinda expecting them to all run out and tackle the guy and try and "cover" Bush but they didn't.
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"This is a gift from the Iraqis. This is the farewell kiss, you dog," the journalist shouted (in Arabic).
"All I can report is it is a size 10," Bush quipped.
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haha, and the filthy muslim retard crawls back to his annihilated mud tent while President Bush returns to America to enjoy his millions....hahahaha
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all kidding aside, the lack of response by the secret service was disgusting.
it was only after the reporter threw the SECOND shoe that they rushed him.
Horrible job. That guy should have been knocked unconscious and/or tackled after screaming and throwing the first shoe. They all just stood there. And it's not like they should be too relaxed - they were in a foreign nation in a room full of unknown entities.
then he would of sued america for the billions for being attacked.........
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"This is a gift from the Iraqis. This is the farewell kiss, you dog," the journalist shouted (in Arabic).
"All I can report is it is a size 10," Bush quipped.
I thought the Iraqis saw us as liberators? ::)
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I thought the Iraqis saw us as liberators? ::)
haha, we "liberated" thousands of them from their pathetic lives. hahaha
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but the hundreds of thousands saddam killed was justified?
if this shit happened in arkansas - everybody would go crazy
but just bc its "way over there" in iraq - dont worry about. they arent human beings, torture beyond imagination is ok right?
You all of a sudden start giving a damn about some arabs in some shit country? They're worth trillions?
Bottom line is that they didn't have wmds and they also did not harbor terrorists.
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Actually he showed some incredible ninja powers by dodging from close range.
And Carter is the biggest douche we have ever had as president....no contest.
The recession during Carter's administration was caused by the Federal Reserve(dick named Paul Volcker).. And the inflation prior was due to cost push inflation.
Bush is horrible. No contest.
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The recession during Carter's administration was caused by the Federal Reserves(dick named Paul Volcker).. And the inflation prior was due to cost push inflation.
Bush is horrible. No contest.
And what exact policy by Bush caused the current financial situation?
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ROTFLMAO at this thread..............It's like a Liberal circle jerk..hahahahahahahahaha haha ;D
Damn you guys are funny!!
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240 come mon. they are in iraqi a soverign country. the secret service was there and it was just an iraqi reporter with two shoes. come off it already.
I dunno.... Afghanistan's Northern Alliance leader was killed by one on Bin Laden's men in 2000 who was posing as a reporter.
The shoe could have been a diversion while attacker #2 made his move. The idiot secret service guy didn't eevn stand in front of Bush after the incident. Unreal. You know they're having some serious talks about their protocol for reaction.
I'm no fan of Bush, even tho I voted for him twice - but all American leaders overseas deserve faster reaction time. They were slipping.
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haha, we "liberated" thousands of them from their pathetic lives. hahaha
Well, we did "liberate" them from basic security, which existed even under Saddam. At least their "free" to walk around now and get blown up by some crazy fundamentalist. :)
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And what exact policy by Bush caused the current financial situation?
The current financial situation is the fault of both Democrats and Republicans. Both pushed the ideas of easy lending and the idea that every american should be able to own a home.
The Iraq situation just adds to the problems. It's a war that's put us trillions more in debt, destroyed our foreign reputation, and all for what? :-\
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ROTFLMAO at this thread..............It's like a Liberal circle jerk..hahahahahahahahaha haha ;D
Damn you guys are funny!!
When it comes to opinions on George Bush, it isn't liberal vs. conservative. It's morons vs sensible Americans.
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When it comes to opinions on George Bush, it isn't liberal vs. conservative. It's morons vs sensible Americans.
True conservative lays the smackdown! 8)
The Coach will support someone or an ideal out of association without thinking about what he's doing or saying. :-\
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When it comes to opinions on George Bush, it isn't liberal vs. conservative. It's morons vs sensible Americans.
George W. Bush's overall job approval rating is at 26%, up from 20% in October. He's getting the bump that Clinton and Bush1 got at the end of their presidency.
Still, at 26%, it means only 1 in 4 americans approve of Bush's job. And since we're a fairly divided country, it means that ALL democrats, and a full HALF of republicans aren't approving of Bush's job.
Sad when at the very most, HALF of your own party approves of your job :(
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When it comes to opinions on George Bush, it isn't liberal vs. conservative. It's morons vs sensible Americans.
No...it was liberal press spin that brought most to think and believe and interpret Bush. The same way the media manufactured Obama, they tried to destroy Bush.
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True conservative lays the smackdown! 8)
The Coach will support someone or an ideal out of association without thinking about what he's doing or saying. :-\
Hello pot meet kettle........you voted for Obama.
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George W. Bush's overall job approval rating is at 26%, up from 20% in October. He's getting the bump that Clinton and Bush1 got at the end of their presidency.
Still, at 26%, it means only 1 in 4 americans approve of Bush's job. And since we're a fairly divided country, it means that ALL democrats, and a full HALF of republicans aren't approving of Bush's job.
Sad when at the very most, HALF of your own party approves of your job :(
Congress' approval are at around 12%. Then one of their own was elected president. Go figure.
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The current financial situation is the fault of both Democrats and Republicans. Both pushed the ideas of easy lending and the idea that every american should be able to own a home.
The Iraq situation just adds to the problems. It's a war that's put us trillions more in debt, destroyed our foreign reputation, and all for what? :-\
We can agree on that. I am not the biggest Bush fan, I've been registered as both parties and and independent in the past, but I think he is receiving way too much of the blame for the current situation. Much more of it belongs to congress and the senate. We will see if Obama can get them to vote with their brains instead of for political gains.
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Congress' approval are at around 12%. Then one of their own was elected president. Go figure.
79% approve of way Obama is handling transition
3 in 4 people approve of what Obama has done before even taking office.
3 in 4 people disapprove of what Bush is doing in office.
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Congress' approval are at around 12%. Then one of their own was elected president. Go figure.
coincedentally the one wih the least experience.....and also of negro descent.
way to go usa.
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79% approve of way Obama is handling transition
3 in 4 people approve of what Obama has done before even taking office.
3 in 4 people disapprove of what Bush is doing in office.
Doesn't mean shit.......he still has to govern.
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Doesn't mean shit.......he still has to govern.
But Coach, he has 143 days of experience in the Senate.... ::)
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Who throws a shoe...Seriously
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(http://i33.tinypic.com/iny7ad.gif)
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I think all of the 533,000 people that lost their jobs last month would have liked to throw their shoes at bush, so this guy just did it for them ;D
because it's bush fault if they lost their job? what kind of retarded kid are you?
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(http://i33.tinypic.com/iny7ad.gif)
LOL hell of an animation
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hahah Bush was slick dodging that shit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Bush should be bombed with shoes from freedom loving people everywhere.
+1 :D
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Venus Viking Commander, right there.
(http://i33.tinypic.com/iny7ad.gif)
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Doesn't mean shit.......he still has to govern.
Granted he hasn't officially taken over, but why is Bush who is still in the White House basically ignoring everything around him and being so lame duck?
The guy could be doing SOMETHING to help the situations the country is in, which you must admit are rather bleak, yet he just stays shut in and does interviews for the media about his previous 7.5 years instead of trying to help some of the issues going on.
Say what you want, but at the very LEAST, Obama is trying to work on some of the issues, where your golden boy W, is holding his ears, closing his eyes, and ignoring everything that's going on around him.
I guess that's ok by you though right?
If that were Obama, you'd be throwing a fit wouldn't you?
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LOL hell of an animation
Those reaction and agility drills I taught him really paid off ;D
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Those reaction and agility drills I taught him really paid off ;D
They certainly did! I bet his first thought was "Thanks, Coach." ;)
I must admit those are some impressive cat-like reflexes Bush displayed and they made me like the guy just a little bit more.
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Granted he hasn't officially taken over, but why is Bush who is still in the White House basically ignoring everything around him and being so lame duck?
The guy could be doing SOMETHING to help the situations the country is in, which you must admit are rather bleak, yet he just stays shut in and does interviews for the media about his previous 7.5 years instead of trying to help some of the issues going on.
Say what you want, but at the very LEAST, ABM is trying to work on some of the issues, where your golden boy W, is holding his ears, closing his eyes, and ignoring everything that's going on around him.
I guess that's OK by you though right?
If that were ABM, you'd be throwing a fit wouldn't you?
What have you been reading to have you come to this conclusion? While Bush has been working on the bailout, going to Iraq and Afghanistan, all eyes have been on Obama, Rahm Emmauel, Blago, Emmanuels ties to Blago, Obama ties to Blago, Blago's ties to Rezco, Obama's ties to Rezco and Blago......I think you understand. Of all the liberals on here your one of the most reasonable. BTW, I think Bush supporting the auto bailout is crap.
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79% approve of way Obama is handling transition
3 in 4 people approve of what Obama has done before even taking office.
3 in 4 people disapprove of what Bush is doing in office.
Thank you for posting what is already obvious. ;)
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LOL!!
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Look 8 posts up... :-\
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the guy who threw the shoes will be a hero when he gets out of an american jail in 50 years...
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looks like bush was smiling after the first one he ducked..
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looks like bush was smiling after the first one he ducked..
I saw that too. I think he found the pathetic attempt amusing. ;D
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anybody who claims to know the perfect/correct way to run a government = does not know the perfect/correct way to run a government.
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anybody who claims to know the perfect/correct way to run a government = does not know the perfect/correct way to run a government.
Thats because there is no way....period.
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anybody who claims to know the perfect/correct way to run a government = does not know the perfect/correct way to run a government.
A wise Getbigger once told me:
"Gravitate towards those who seek the truth, run from those who claimed to have found it."
;)
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Thats because there is no way....period.
no. there is no 'nothin' and there is no 'everything. there is no correct and there is no incorrect. there are only different options. as far as governing goes, one must be able to take all things into consideration= principle, reality, theory, fact, economics, enherent rights,..etc etc..one cant have tunnell vision their or their own version of reality..one must empathize with EVERY point of view and understand al the arguments.
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A wise Getbigger once told me:
"Gravitate towards those who seek the truth, run from those who claimed to have found it."
;)
excellent post... ;)
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The point is, you should always continue to consider that there may be alternative courses with anything. Alternative courses of action, alternative ways in which things may work, alternative ways of doing things, etc... if you view the world as if everything is at least possible, you will learn far, far more than accepting "truth" then closing your mind off from all other possiblities.
There is a reality and there is truth.
The catch is... there are many truths encompassed in "truth" itself. ;)
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A wise Getbigger once told me:
"Gravitate towards those who seek the truth, run from those who claimed to have found it."
;)
lol, i was just repeating that though, thats not my OWN quote.
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What have you been reading to have you come to this conclusion? While Bush has been working on the bailout, going to Iraq and Afghanistan, all eyes have been on Obama, Rahm Emmauel, Blago, Emmanuels ties to Blago, Obama ties to Blago, Blago's ties to Rezco, Obama's ties to Rezco and Blago......I think you understand. Of all the liberals on here your one of the most reasonable. BTW, I think Bush supporting the auto bailout is crap.
No offense but you sound like a typical uneducated American, thinking that an American life is worth more than a foreign life. Little do you know that the people you blindly support will step on you like a little ant. American politics = AIPAC 50% + selfish greed 50%. Most of our terror attacks are our own doing. Keep in mind, we supported Osama in the 1980s, we supported Saddam in the 1980s, we supported and trained the ISI of Pakistan in th 1970s and 1980s, we supported the dictator Shah of Iran hose brutish ways placed Ayatalloh Khomeini in power, the list goes on and on. Read third party press, and understand the Cold War and congressional financing and then you will understand American politics. If not, enjoy knowing the fact that in about 20 years you will be the minority. ;D
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ive met afew muslims in my day and they where really respectful and kind people,we became friends and still talk to this day.they said they hate the terrorists and what they stand for,they said true muslims believe in peace and love and not hate and violence
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you are igorant
have we had another attack on U.S. soil since 9/11?
lol
your funny
yes, the "terrorists" brought down the towers (inc # 7) all by themselves......
oh, and are we still looking for some plane wrackage that hit the pentagon?
lol
America is full of too many peons like yourself....
and yes, that $2 trillion that the Fed Res just raped from the American public, every last cent is going to make a difference
trust the govt......;)
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lol
your funny
yes, the "terrorists" brought down the towers (inc # 7) all by themselves......
oh, and are we still looking for some plane wrackage that hit the pentagon?
lol
America is full of too many peons like yourself....
and yes, that $2 trillion that the Fed Res just raped from the American public, every last cent is going to make a difference
trust the govt......;)
boonstack drinks alot...And if Uncle Sams cock was full of Budlite, boonstack would suck it dry...Oh wait a minute. He would do that regardless...
I bet boonstack is the type of guy who wears an american flag pin on his left chest and stands up and salutes while the national anthem is playing on TV(that joke was stolen from the joe rogan board:)
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lol
your funny
yes, the "terrorists" brought down the towers (inc # 7) all by themselves......
oh, and are we still looking for some plane wrackage that hit the pentagon?
lol
America is full of too many peons like yourself....
and yes, that $2 trillion that the Fed Res just raped from the American public, every last cent is going to make a difference
trust the govt......;)
they needed that 2 trillion to replenish their money reserves, changing the laws of physics to bring the two towers down with airplanes
at the top cost alot of money :D
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lol
your funny
yes, the "terrorists" brought down the towers (inc # 7) all by themselves......
oh, and are we still looking for some plane wrackage that hit the pentagon?
lol
America is full of too many peons like yourself....
and yes, that $2 trillion that the Fed Res just raped from the American public, every last cent is going to make a difference
trust the govt......;)
Hey "gino" learn how to spell, my angry lil twink. I smell GED. Also i like 2 pizzas to go.
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No offense but you sound like a typical uneducated American
In a word, ya that's "coach" lol
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TA's political view is as sound as his dieting principles ::)
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they needed that 2 trillion to replenish their money reserves, changing the laws of physics to bring the two towers down with airplanes
at the top cost alot of money :D
Fed announces it will be keeping SECRET where the $2 trillion went.
That's right. Two trillion bucks of taxpayer $, and they are telling you it's none of your business where the cash went.
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=252393.0
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Fed announces it will be keeping SECRET where the $2 trillion went.
That's right. Two trillion bucks of taxpayer $, and they are telling you it's none of your business where the cash went.
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=252393.0
Great! and if you owe them some money you go to jail for a yr or have to sleep in box in the snow cause they take all your stuff.
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Bush may rank as the worst President ever. However, the idea of him being "pwned" is a bit of a stretch. He came across as agile as he ducked the various shoe tosses. One has to be slyer or trickier if they want to make Bush look bad. This thread is actually a pro-Bush propaganda thread because any idiot can see he came out on top in this particular instance. Don't be too eager, select your criticisms wisely.
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Yea, if bush had got hit by the shoe, that would be him getting "pwned". I was surprised at how quick he dodged the shoe. Most of us would probably be staring at the guy thinking "what the hell is this guy doing". Bush is one of the worst presidents in Us history, along with Lyndon Johnson, Andrew Jackson, and Abraham Lincoln. If he got hit by the shoe, they would never let him live that one down.
Who throws a shoe? Honestly!?- Austin Powers
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hahahaha, epic calling someone ignorant and misspelling it. :D
hahahahaha
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LMAO :D
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The Secret Service's Reaction was fucking pathetic.... ::)
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The Secret Service's Reaction was fucking pathetic.... ::)
They were in a foreign country where the majority of the population hates the US and hates Bush.
They were in a room full of foreign reporters - this wasn't the White house press corps. This was a room full of unknown entities, with both Bush and Iraq's president there.
The fact that they didn't have men sitting amongst the reporters to club this guy in the few seconds after throwing the first shoe, was pathetic. If not for the other reporters knocking him over, he could have thrown his microphone or whatever else was in his pocket.
Absolutely pathetic security there. With those 2 major world leaders in a room full of unknowns, you should have men with ABS batons (at least) at the ready every few seats.
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They were in a foreign country where the majority of the population hates the US and hates Bush.
They were in a room full of foreign reporters - this wasn't the White house press corps. This was a room full of unknown entities, with both Bush and Iraq's president there.
The fact that they didn't have men sitting amongst the reporters to club this guy in the few seconds after throwing the first shoe, was pathetic. If not for the other reporters knocking him over, he could have thrown his microphone or whatever else was in his pocket.
Absolutely pathetic security there. With those 2 major world leaders in a room full of unknowns, you should have men with ABS batons (at least) at the ready every few seats.
that was stupid, with all the stuff you hear about the great secret service protection plans, they failed
to defend a shoe attack ;D
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but the hundreds of thousands saddam killed was justified?
if this shit happened in arkansas - everybody would go crazy
but just bc its "way over there" in iraq - dont worry about. they arent human beings, torture beyond imagination is ok right?
How does one evil justify another evil? That is nonsensical. It's in the line of "we fight them over there so we don't have to fight them here"...it's pure propaganda.
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First gulf war? What the hell? We were supporting Iraq and Saddam against Iran way before that. He gased thousands of people including Kurds and the U.S. didn't do or say shit to him. Saddam was a bad man and had the full backing of the fucking U.S. Some of you are really ignorant about politics and our support for other countries.
Now for the video..............haha Bush is pretty fucking skilled to dodge those shoes! :) What a fucking disgrace he is. This country has hit a new fucking low where a reporter would throw shoes at our President.
Didn't the republican brain trust increase US aid to Iraq after the Kurdish gassing?
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that was stupid, with all the stuff you hear about the great secret service protection plans, they failed
to defend a shoe attack ;D
It's a pattern, man. First the shoe bomber and now this. Stupid fuckin arabs. These are our enemies? How the fuck did 19 guys with box cutters bring this country to its knees?
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How the fuck did 19 guys with box cutters bring this country to its knees?
Are you saying that it was odd there was zero air defense over DC for the 48 minutes they knew flight 77 was beelining for the capital?
Are you saying those 19 hijackers managed to change Andrews AFB's website on Sept 12 to remove all mention of scrambling interceptors, as had been their job until 9/11?
Is that what you're saying, Decker?
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It's a pattern, man. First the shoe bomber and now this. Stupid fuckin arabs. These are our enemies? How the fuck did 19 guys with box cutters bring this country to its knees?
they didn't, for fuck's sakes can't people of america think for 2 seconds?
those "hijackers" turned up alive,
they say they got their DNA in the crash site
okay, let's assume that somehow they got DNA from under the melted steel, where did they get the original DNA to compare it against?
I can't believe people are so stupid foolish at times, even if they know the truth, they turn a blind eye.
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Are you saying that it was odd there was zero air defense over DC for the 48 minutes they knew flight 77 was beelining for the capital?
Are you saying those 19 hijackers managed to change Andrews AFB's website on Sept 12 to remove all mention of scrambling interceptors, as had been their job until 9/11?
Is that what you're saying, Decker?
Are you saying that it was odd that building 7 came crashing down all by itself?
that airplane at the top of the building brought the whole building down?
that they will not release the video of the plane that hit the pentagon?
I could go on for days on this subject.
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This should explain everything, there will not be "things" after you read this.
questions that remain unanswered ::)
THE DAY ITSELF - EVIDENCE OF COMPLICITY
1) AWOL Chain of Command
a. It is well documented that the officials topping the chain of command for response to a domestic attack - George W. Bush, Donald Rumsfeld, Richard Myers, Montague Winfield - all found reason to do something else during the actual attacks, other than assuming their duties as decision-makers.
b. Who was actually in charge? Dick Cheney, Richard Clarke, Norman Mineta and the 9/11 Commission directly conflict in their accounts of top-level response to the unfolding events, such that several (or all) of them must be lying.
2) Air Defense Failures
a. The US air defense system failed to follow standard procedures for responding to diverted passenger flights.
b. Timelines: The various responsible agencies - NORAD, FAA, Pentagon, USAF, as well as the 9/11 Commission - gave radically different explanations for the failure (in some cases upheld for years), such that several officials must have lied; but none were held accountable.
c. Was there an air defense standdown?
3) Pentagon Strike
How was it possible the Pentagon was hit 1 hour and 20 minutes after the attacks began? Why was there no response from Andrews Air Force Base, just 10 miles away and home to Air National Guard units charged with defending the skies above the nation''s capital? How did Hani Hanjour, a man who failed as a Cessna pilot on his first flight in a Boeing, execute a difficult aerobatic maneuver to strike the Pentagon? Why did the attack strike the just-renovated side, which was largely empty and opposite from the high command?
4) Wargames
a. US military and other authorities planned or actually rehearsed defensive response to all elements of the 9/11 scenario during the year prior to the attack - including multiple hijackings, suicide crashbombings, and a strike on the Pentagon.
b. The multiple military wargames planned long in advance and held on the morning of September 11th included scenarios of a domestic air crisis, a plane crashing into a government building, and a large-scale emergency in New York. If this was only an incredible series of coincidences, why did the official investigations avoid the issue? There is evidence that the wargames created confusion as to whether the unfolding events were "real world or exercise." Did wargames serve as the cover for air defense sabotage, and/or the execution of an "inside job"?
5) Flight 93
Did the Shanksville crash occur at 10:06 (according to a seismic report) or 10:03 (according to the 9/11 Commission)? Does the Commission wish to hide what happened in the last three minutes of the flight, and if so, why? Was Flight 93 shot down, as indicated by the scattering of debris over a trail of several miles?
THE DAY - POSSIBLE SMOKING GUNS
6) Did cell phones work at 30,000 feet in 2001? How many hijackings were attempted? How many flights were diverted?
7) Demolition Hypothesis
What caused the collapse of a third skyscraper, WTC 7, which was not hit by a plane? Were the Twin Towers and WTC 7 brought down by explosives? (See "The Case for Demolitions," the websites wtc7.net and 911research.wtc7.net, and the influential article by physicist Steven Jones. See also items no. 16 and 24, below.)
FOREKNOWLEDGE & THE ALLEGED HIJACKERS
8) What did officials know? How did they know it?
a. Multiple allied foreign agencies informed the US government of a coming attack in detail, including the manner and likely targets of the attack, the name of the operation (the "Big Wedding"), and the names of certain men later identified as being among the perpetrators.
b. Various individuals came into possession of specific advance knowledge, and some of them tried to warn the US prior to September 11th.
c. Certain prominent persons received warnings not to fly on the week or on the day of September 11th.
9) Able Danger, Plus - Surveillance of Alleged Hijackers
a. The men identified as the 9/11 ringleaders were under surveillance for years beforehand, on the suspicion they were terrorists, by a variety of US and allied authorities - including the CIA, the US military''s "Able Danger" program, the German authorities, Israeli intelligence and others.
b. Two of the alleged ringleaders who were known to be under surveillance by the CIA also lived with an FBI asset in San Diego, but this is supposed to be yet another coincidence.
10) Obstruction of FBI Investigations prior to 9/11
A group of FBI officials in New York systematically suppressed field investigations of potential terrorists that might have uncovered the alleged hijackers - as the Moussaoui case once again showed. The stories of Sibel Edmonds, Robert Wright, Coleen Rowley and Harry Samit, the "Phoenix Memo," David Schippers, the 199i orders restricting investigations, the Bush administration''s order to back off the Bin Ladin family, the reaction to the "Bojinka" plot, and John O''Neil do not, when considered in sum, indicate mere incompetence, but high-level corruption and protection of criminal networks, including the network of the alleged 9/11 conspirators. (Nearly all of these examples were omitted from or relegated to fleeting footnotes in The 9/11 Commission Report.)
11) Insider Trading
a. Unknown speculators allegedly used foreknowledge of the Sept. 11th events to profiteer on many markets internationally - including but not limited to "put options" placed to short-sell the two airlines, WTC tenants, and WTC re-insurance companies in Chicago and London.
b. In addition, suspicious monetary transactions worth hundreds of millions were conducted through offices at the Twin Towers during the actual attacks.
c. Initial reports on these trades were suppressed and forgotten, and only years later did the 9/11 Commission and SEC provide a partial, but untenable explanation for only a small number of transactions (covering only the airline put options through the Chicago Board of Exchange).
12) Who were the perpetrators?
a. Much of the evidence establishing who did the crime is dubious and miraculous: bags full of incriminating material that happened to miss the flight or were left in a van; the "magic passport" of an alleged hijacker, found at Ground Zero; documents found at motels where the alleged perpetrators had stayed days and weeks before 9/11.
b. The identities of the alleged hijackers remain unresolved, there are contradictions in official accounts of their actions and travels, and there is evidence several of them had "doubles," all of which is omitted from official investigations.
c. What happened to initial claims by the government that 50 people involved in the attacks had been identified, including the 19 alleged hijackers, with 10 still at large (suggesting that 20 had been apprehended)? http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/sns-worldtrade-50suspects,0,1825231.story
THE 9/11 COVER-UP, 2001-2006
13) Who Is Osama Bin Ladin?
a. Who judges which of the many conflicting and dubious statements and videos attributed to Osama Bin Ladin are genuine, and which are fake? The most important Osama Bin Ladin video (Nov. 2001), in which he supposedly confesses to masterminding 9/11, appears to be a fake. In any event, the State Department''s translation of it is fraudulent.
b. Did Osama Bin Ladin visit Dubai and meet a CIA agent in July 2001 (Le Figaro)? Was he receiving dialysis in a Pakistani military hospital on the night of September 10, 2001 (CBS)?
c. Whether by Bush or Clinton: Why is Osama always allowed to escape?
d. The terror network associated with Osama, known as the "data base" (al-Qaeda), originated in the CIA-sponsored 1980s anti-Soviet jihad in Afghanistan. When did this network stop serving as an asset to covert operations by US intelligence and allied agencies? What were its operatives doing in Kosovo, Bosnia and Chechnya in the years prior to 9/11?
14) All the Signs of a Systematic 9/11 Cover-up
a. Airplane black boxes were found at Ground Zero, according to two first responders and an unnamed NTSB official, but they were "disappeared" and their existence is denied in The 9/11 Commission Report.
b. US officials consistently suppressed and destroyed evidence (like the tapes recorded by air traffic controllers who handled the New York flights).
c. Whistleblowers (like Sibel Edmonds and Anthony Shaffer) were intimidated, gagged and sanctioned, sending a clear signal to others who might be thinking about speaking out.
d. Officials who "failed" (like Myers and Eberhard, as well as Frasca, Maltbie and Bowman of the FBI) were given promotions.
15) Poisoning New York
The White House deliberately pressured the EPA into giving false public assurances that the toxic air at Ground Zero was safe to breathe. This knowingly contributed to an as-yet unknown number of health cases and fatalities, and demonstrates that the administration does consider the lives of American citizens to be expendable on behalf of certain interests.
16) Disposing of the Crime Scene
The rapid and illegal scrapping of the WTC ruins at Ground Zero disposed of almost all of the structural steel indispensable to any investigation of the collapse mechanics. (See also item no. 23, below.)
17) Anthrax
Mailings of weapons-grade anthrax - which caused a practical suspension of the 9/11 investigations - were traced back to US military stock. Soon after the attacks began in October 2001, the FBI approved the destruction of the original samples of the Ames strain, disposing of perhaps the most important evidence in identifying the source of the pathogens used in the mailings. Were the anthrax attacks timed to coincide with the Afghanistan invasion? Why were the letters sent only to media figures and to the leaders of the opposition in the Senate (who had just raised objections to the USA PATRIOT Act)?
18) The Stonewall
a. Colin Powell promised a "white paper" from the State Department to establish the authorship of the attacks by al-Qaeda. This was never forthcoming, and was instead replaced by a paper from Tony Blair, which presented only circumstantial evidence, with very few points actually relating to September 11th.
b. Bush and Cheney pressured the (freshly-anthraxed) leadership of the Congressional opposition into delaying the 9/11 investigation for months. The administration fought against the creation of an independent investigation for more than a year.
c. The White House thereupon attempted to appoint Henry Kissinger as the chief investigator, and acted to underfund and obstruct the 9/11 Commission.
19) A Record of Official Lies
a. "No one could have imagined planes into buildings" - a transparent falsehood upheld repeatedly by Rice, Rumsfeld and Bush.
b. "Iraq was connected to 9/11" - The most "outrageous conspiracy theory" of all, with the most disastrous impact.
20) Pakistani Connection - Congressional Connection
a. The Pakistani intelligence agency ISI, creator of the Taliban and close ally to both the CIA and "al-Qaeda," allegedly wired $100,000 to Mohamed Atta just prior to September 11th, reportedly through the ISI asset Omar Saeed Sheikh (later arrested for the killing of Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl, who was investigating ISI connections to "al-Qaeda.")
b. This was ignored by the congressional 9/11 investigation, although the senator and congressman who ran the probe (Bob Graham and Porter Goss) were meeting with the ISI chief, Mahmud Ahmed, on Capitol Hill on the morning of September 11th.
c. About 25 percent of the report of the Congressional Joint Inquiry was redacted, including long passages regarding how the attack (or the network allegedly behind it) was financed. Graham later said foreign allies were involved in financing the alleged terror network, but that this would only come out in 30 years.
21) Unanswered Questions and the "Final Fraud" of the 9/11 Commission:
a. The September 11th families who fought for and gained an independent investigation (the 9/11 Commission) posed 400-plus questions, which the 9/11 Commission adopted as its roadmap. The vast majority of these questions were completely ignored in the Commission hearings and the final report.
b. The membership and staff of the 9/11 Commission displayed awesome conflicts of interest. The families called for the resignation of Executive Director Philip Zelikow, a Bush administration member and close associate of "star witness" Condoleezza Rice, and were snubbed. Commission member Max Cleland resigned, condemning the entire exercise as a "scam" and "whitewash."
c.The 9/11 Commission Report is notable mainly for its obvious omissions, distortions and outright falsehoods - ignoring anything incompatible with the official story, banishing the issues to footnotes, and even dismissing the still-unresolved question of who financed 9/11 as being "of little practical significance."
22) Crown Witnesses Held at Undisclosed Locations
The alleged masterminds of 9/11, Khalid Sheikh Mohamed (KSM) and Ramzi Binalshibh, are reported to have been captured in 2002 and 2003, although one Pakistani newspaper said KSM was killed in an attempted capture. They have been held at undisclosed locations and their supposed testimonies, as provided in transcript form by the government, form much of the basis for The 9/11 Commission Report (although the Commission''s request to see them in person was denied). After holding them for years, why doesn''t the government produce these men and put them to trial?
23) Spitzer Redux
a. Eliot Spitzer, attorney general of New York State, snubbed pleas by New York citizens to open 9/11 as a criminal case (Justicefor911.org).
b. Spitzer also refused to allow his employee, former 9/11 Commission staff member Dietrich Snell, to testify to the Congress about his (Snell''s) role in keeping "Able Danger" entirely out of The 9/11 Commission Report.
24) NIST Omissions
After the destruction of the WTC structural steel, the official Twin Towers collapse investigation was left with almost no forensic evidence, and thus could only provide dubious computer models of ultimately unprovable hypotheses. It failed to even test for the possibility of explosives. (Why not clear this up?)
25) Radio Silence
The 9/11 Commission and NIST both allowed the continuing cover-up of how Motorola''s faulty radios, purchased by the Giuliani administration, caused firefighter deaths at the WTC - once again showing the expendability, even of the first responders.
26) The Legal Catch-22
a. Hush Money - Accepting victims'' compensation barred September 11th families from pursuing discovery through litigation.
b. Judge Hallerstein - Those who refused compensation to pursue litigation and discovery had their cases consolidated under the same judge (and as a rule dismissed).
27) Saudi Connections
a. The 9/11 investigations made light of the "Bin Ladin Airlift" during the no-fly period, and ignored the long-standing Bush family business ties to the Bin Ladin family fortune. (A company in which both families held interests, the Carlyle Group, was holding its annual meeting on September 11th, with George Bush Sr., James Baker, and two brothers of Osama Bin Ladin in attendance.)
b. The issue of Ptech.
28) Media Blackout of Prominent Doubters
The official story has been questioned and many of the above points were raised by members of the US Congress, retired high-ranking officers of the US military, the three leading third-party candidates for President in the 2004 election, a member of the 9/11 Commission who resigned in protest, a former high-ranking adviser to the George W. Bush administration, former ministers to the German, British and Canadian governments, the commander-in-chief of the Russian air force, 100 luminaries who signed the "9/11 Truth Statement," and the presidents of Iran and Venezuela. Not all of these people agree fully with each other, but all would normally be considered newsworthy. Why has the corporate-owned US mass media remained silent about these statements, granting due coverage only to the comments of actor Charlie Sheen?
GEOPOLITICS, TIMING AND POSSIBLE MOTIVES
29) "The Great Game"
The Afghanistan invasion was ready for Bush''s go-ahead on September 9, 2001, with US and UK force deployments to the region already in place or underway. This followed the failure earlier that year of backdoor diplomacy with the Taliban (including payments of $125 million in US government aid to Afghanistan), in an attempt to secure a unity government for that country as a prerequisite to a Central Asian pipeline deal.
30) The Need for a "New Pearl Harbor"
Principals in US foreign policy under the current Bush administration (including Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Perle and others) have been instrumental in developing long-running plans for worldwide military hegemony, including an invasion of the Middle East, dating back to the Ford, Reagan and Bush Sr. administrations. They reiterated these plans in the late 1990s as members of the "Project for a New American Century," and stated a clear intent to invade Iraq for the purpose of "regime change." After 9/11, they lost no time in their attempt to tie Iraq to the attacks.
31) Perpetual "War on Terror"
9/11 is supposed to provide carte-blanche for an open-ended, global and perpetual "War on Terror," against any enemy, foreign or domestic, that the executive branch chooses to designate, and regardless of whether evidence exists to actually connect these enemies to 9/11.
32) Attacking the Constitution
a. The USA PATRIOT Act was written before 9/11, Homeland Security and the "Shadow Government" were developed long before 9/11, and plans for rounding up dissidents as a means for suppressing civil disturbance have been in the works for decades.
b. 9/11 was used as the pretext to create a new, extra-constitutional executive authority to declare anyone an "enemy combatant" (including American citizens), to detain persons indefinitely without habeas corpus, and to "render" such persons to secret prisons where torture is practiced.
33) Legal Trillions
9/11 triggers a predictable shift of public spending to war, and boosts public and private spending in the "new" New Economy of "Homeland Security," biometrics, universal surveillance, prisons, civil defense, secured enclaves, security, etc.
34) Plundered Trillions?
On September 10, 2001, Donald Rumsfeld announced a "war on waste" after an internal audit found that the Pentagon was "missing" 2.3 trillion dollars in unaccounted assets. On September 11th, this was as good as forgotten.
35) Did 9/11 prevent a stock market crash?
Did anyone benefit from the destruction of the Securities and Exchange Commission offices at WTC 7, and the resultant crippling of hundreds of fraud investigations?
36) Resource Wars
a. What was discussed in the Energy Task Force meetings under Dick Cheney in 2001? Why is the documentation of these meetings still being suppressed?
b. Is Peak Oil a motive for 9/11 as inside job?
37) The "Little Game"
Why was the WTC privatized just before its destruction?
HISTORY
38) "Al-CIA-da?"
The longstanding relationship between US intelligence networks and radical Islamists, including the network surrounding Osama Bin Ladin. (See also point 13d.)
39) Historical Precedents for "Synthetic Terror"
a. In the past many states, including the US government, have sponsored attacks on their own people, fabricated the "cause for war," created (and armed) their own enemies of convenience, and sacrificed their own citizens for "reasons of state."
b. Was 9/11 an update of the Pentagon-approved "Project Northwoods" plan for conducting self-inflicted, false-flag terror attacks in the United States, and blaming them on a foreign enemy?
40) Secret Government
a. The record of criminality and sponsorship of coups around the world by the covert networks based within the US intelligence complex.
b. Specifically also: The evidence of crime by Bush administration principals and their associates, from October Surprise to Iran-Contra and the S&L plunder to PNAC, Enron/Halliburton and beyond.
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most people who have looked at it with an objective mind know the official story stinks like rotten fish.
50% of the members of the 911 commission, including Kean and hamilton, the co-chairs, have said we need a new investigation in light of all of this evidence which has come out.
When the authors say the document is a 'whitewash', as one of them put it, it's hard to put much stock in it.
Most intelligent people know that 19 people with boxcutters didn't do everything that day.
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Are you saying that it was odd there was zero air defense over DC for the 48 minutes they knew flight 77 was beelining for the capital?
Are you saying those 19 hijackers managed to change Andrews AFB's website on Sept 12 to remove all mention of scrambling interceptors, as had been their job until 9/11?
Is that what you're saying, Decker?
Well, I'm saying, "How did 19 guys with boxcutters bring this country to its knees..."
It's difficult to believe the story as it is told to us.
The reason for scepticism from the outset is that Bush/Cheney is the most secretive administration in history. That, and it looks fishy when the president and vice president run to the congress and ask that any investigation be killed.
I mean who wouldn't want to look into HOW it happened so that it doesn't happen again?
That simple act of theirs raises suspicion, right or wrong.
Then we get Bush freezing up in a classroom and disappearing thereafter.
We are supposed to believe that arabs trained on a flight simulator at a puddle-jumper flight school were able to execute a well-controlled downward spiral, the last 7000 feet done in 2 1/2 minutes, with such precision that electrical lines are clipped on the way to the Pentagon target. It's like the magic bullet theory. It's hard to swallow.
Here is a nice bit written on the matter: http://www.apfn.org/apfn/wtc_media.htm
It's also interesting how many intel failures there are in the Bush administration and how those failures drive Bush policy.
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watching MSNBC this morning, an Iraqi reporter stated that in the old days, this guy would have been taken out and shot.
Now, since we have democracy, there is no precedence on how to punish him.
Throwing a shoe and calling someone a dog is a HUGE insult in Iraq. Over here, we just laugh it off.
Bush could've lost an eye....
Sandra
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The Secret Service's Reaction was fucking pathetic.... ::)
If you look closely at the tape, you'll see that Bush waived them off.
I don't think he was trying to "assault" Bush, ...just disrespect him in the extreme.
Pretty poor conduct if you ask me. :-\
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The reporter is looking at 8 years in prison - for throwing shoe at the iraqi leader.
he might not be charged for throwing it at Bush.
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The reporter is looking at 8 years in prison - for throwing shoe at the iraqi leader.he might not be charged for throwing it at Bush.
DAMN
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CNN's crazy reporter - that Michael Ware - said the guy woudln't be breathing right now if he tried that shit on saddam.
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I don't care who it is.
A politician should never be the target of physical attacks.
Anyone supporting it is a buffon.
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Getting PWND would mean he was actually hit by the durka's shoes.
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SPREAD WIDELY TO PEOPLE AND GROUPS YOU KNOW:
Mailing Address
The White House
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW
Washington, DC 20500
Suggested note:
"This is a farewell kiss from the American people, you dog."
Shoes for Christmas (http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2008/12/shoes_for_christmas.php)
Category: Politics (http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/politics/)
Posted on: December 16, 2008 9:37 AM, by PZ Myers
Lots of people complained (http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2008/12/rightful_actions.php) that throwing shoes at the president was an act of violence, and therefore beyond the pale of what should be allowed. I think they're wrong, that it's a harmless expression of naked contempt, and that there ought to be more contempt expressed towards this president, but let's compromise. No throwing shoes. How about politely handing them to him?
The Rude Pundit had a brilliant and obvious idea (http://rudepundit.blogspot.com/2008/12/because-we-wont-have-him-to-kick-around_15.html).
This morning, the Rude Pundit decided to honor the efforts of Muntader al-Zaidi, the Iraqi shoe-tosser, by taking out a raggedy old pair of sneakers, putting them in a Priority Mail shipping box, helpfully provided by the United States Post Office, and shipping them to President George W. Bush at the White House. He included a note that read, "This is a farewell kiss from the American people, you dog."
Since throwing objects at the president is generally considered a crime, the Rude Pundit figures sending shoes to Bush is a small, good thing, a gesture of contempt that has context. Sweet Christ, at this point, there should be giant sacks of shoes heading to 1600 Pennsylvania Ave NW, Washington, DC, 20500, like letters to Santa.
None of you can have any objections in principle to that, I should hope. Let us all make our own small protest and send George W Bush a little Christmas present, a polite version of an upraised middle finger, and box up some old shoes and send him a deluge of metaphorical and symbolic disgust.
It would also be nice if the shoes were at least serviceable, so maybe the White House could follow up with one last decent act by donating them to the needy.
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offers to buy the shoes he threw were reportedly being made around the Arab world for as much as $10m (£6.5m).
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WHATEVER.. Bush is pretty quick. Wonder if he played sports
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WHATEVER.. Bush is pretty quick. Wonder if he played sports
(http://www.appletreeblog.com/wp-content/2008/02/bush-cheerleader.JPG)
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(http://www.appletreeblog.com/wp-content/2008/02/bush-cheerleader.JPG)
Shittin me right. Please say it aint so. This fool was a cheerleader...
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Shittin me right. Please say it aint so. This fool was a cheerleader...
ok something fishy is goin on...check out the wiki page
GEORGE BUSH. Born July 6, 1946, in New Haven, Connecticut, son of George H.W. Bush (Class of '48) and Barbara Pierce Bush. Prepared at Phillips Academy-Andover, Andover, Massachusetts. Entered Yale, September, 1964. History Major. Resident Member: Davenport (Social Council, 1964-68; Football, 1964-68, Captain, 1967-68; Baseball, 1965-68); Delta Kappa Epsilon, President, 1966-67; Skull and Bones; Inter- Council, 1966-67; Freshman Baseball, 1965; Rugby Club, 1966-68. Roommates: R.J. Dieter, C. Johnson, III, C. Johnson, Jr. Address: Apt. 8, 5000 Longmont Drive, Houston, Texas 77027.
So where did the cheeleader picture come in
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http://www.nytimes.com/library/politics/camp/061000wh-bush.html
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OH wow :o :o
Dude. Im confused. How the hell did he play football in college if he was busy cheering for the football team in highschool?
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OH wow :o :o
Dude. Im confused. How the hell did he play football in college if he was busy cheering for the football team in highschool?
He didn't. He played with the football players, ...or dreamed of it. He was a cheerleader.
Can you spell P R O P A G A N D A? It probably came from the same PR firm that tries to sell him as a rugged individualist, or a cowboy, when in reality he's scared shitless of horses. They can try to sell him anyway they want, he'll still be the same sissy boy and fancy pants his momma called him.
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He didn't. He played with the football players, ...or dreamed of it. He was a cheerleader.
Can you spell P R O P A G A N D A? It probably came from the same PR firm that tries to sell him as a rugged individualist, or a cowboy, when in reality he's scared shitless of horses. They can try to sell him anyway they want, he'll still be the same sissy boy and fancy pants his momma called him.
I like the way you think.