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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Steroids Info & Hardcore => Topic started by: local hero on July 05, 2012, 11:47:16 AM
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i was around 260 odd at christmass, fairly lean on next to nothing with a holiday comming up in june...
drugs
jan, feb and march i added enth at 250mg every 3rd day, along with 200mg decca on the same day, with dbol at various stages
april, may and june i switched to 100mg prop 75mg tren eod, with var at various stages... also tried novos at 5iu ed around this time too
diet
6.30 60g protein, 40g oats, spoon peanut butter, handfull of frozen berries, bananna ( blended )
9.00 250g chicken, small sweet pot
12.00 25og chicken, small sweet pot
3.30 10eggs, 5 yolks, 2 wholemeal toast, half a tin of beans ( mmmmmm )
6.30 60g protein 1 bannana (pre)
8.45 (post) fizzy protein drink ( taste amazing )
9.00 2 tins of tuna, 1 tin of soup ( tuna soup )
11.00 60g protien
* im not into supplements apart from protein powder, only other things i take are coated 75mg asprin and effervescent vit c, also have a handfull of almonds throughout the day too
** no carbs after 6.30, i usualy have a cheat meal on a sat night and maybe a sunday dinner and a pint the next day too
training
mon legs... stand calf, seated calf, ham curl, db str8 deadlift, leg ext, leg press... 30 mins stair climber
( i have terrible knee problems, hence calves and hams 1st )
tues chest&shoulders... inc db, flat fly, crossovers..cable side lat, rear pec deck, db front raise.. 30mins xtrainer ( shoulders are fucked, very slow and precise form, no over head pressing either )
wed ... 45mins treadmill, few sets of abbs
thurs back&traps.. lat pulldown, hammer pulldown, bb row, cable row... seated db shrugs... deadlifts 30mins xtrainer
fri ... 45mins treadmill, abbs etc
sat arms+bit of everything... pec deck, bb shrug, lat raises.... seated alt db curl, cable curl, hammers..tri pushdown, over head cable ext, rev push down or ropes
sun.. off
either yates style, one all out set... or 3 progressive sets or pumpathons depending on my mood and joints, my shoulders, knees and elbows are sore most the time.. so no more squats, no more heavy benching with a bar inc or flat... no over head pressing, no skull crushers no dips...
all this training and dieting was done working 12hr nightshift in a ship yard, 7 days a week, so all those with piss easy jobs or no jobs realy have no excuse
pics from holiday, was 232lbs @ 6'1 before i left for the air port, pics a few days in after heavy eating and drinking
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you look great
thanks for taking the time to write it down
you tried masteron with the tren and test really hardens you up
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yeh, tried the lot in my contest days.... was keeping it simple and cheap.. i could of added clen, winny and arimidex too and realy cut up, but was just for a holiday and somthing to train for
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Looking great man!
Good luck!
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its a shame im such a bag of fucked joints, my last contest weight was around 225lbs,, i think i could easily compete in the 230's with my old regime, maybe 240's with slin
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its a shame im such a bag of fucked joints, my last contest weight was around 225lbs,, i think i could easily compete in the 230's with my old regime, maybe 240's with slin
does no amount of deca or gh help with your joints?
look great btw like everyone else said!
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Looking great,very impressive!
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Nice Job!!!!!!!!
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does no amount of deca or gh help with your joints?
I also have some serious joint issues.
Even on 900mg of Deca they are still a problem and have to avoid certian movements.
Years of abuse takes it's toll eventually.
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I also have some serious joint issues.
Even on 900mg of Deca they are still a problem and have to avoid certian movements.
Years of abuse takes it's toll eventually.
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That stinks!
Without deca or other gear would you be in so much pain that you wouldn't be able to get through a work out?
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That stinks!
Without deca or other gear would you be in so much pain that you wouldn't be able to get through a work out?
It's not that bad, Deca helps ease the pain by 15% maybe, so it's not that big of a deal. My shoulders and wrists are destroyed from years of Muay Thai and power lifting. Once i get warmed up i feel pretty normal, but there are certain movements i just cannot do anymore.
Deca helps for sure, but warming up properly is the biggest game changer.
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It's not that bad, Deca helps ease the pain by 15% maybe, so it's not that big of a deal. My shoulders and wrists are destroyed from years of Muay Thai and power lifting. Once i get warmed up i feel pretty normal, but there are certain movements i just cannot do anymore.
Deca helps for sure, but warming up properly is the biggest game changer.
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Have you ever tried glucosamine? ....I know a lot of people swear by it. Though I'm sure if deca only provides minimal relief it won't do god damn thing for ya :(
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mentioned it on another pic thread with these pics u look as good as when u competed without killing yourself for a show,,props ..
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id say he look even better here, no need to lose a single further gramm of fat.
hey, as for joint pains, when im off gear its terrible, when on bit test it goes away 80% i guess im lucky there.
and i dont train as heavy like when i was younger
don't need to,pump ,less rest betwwen sets,change it up,,eat semi clean enjoy ....
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I also have some serious joint issues.
Even on 900mg of Deca they are still a problem and have to avoid certian movements.
Years of abuse takes it's toll eventually.
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work fucks me too,,, i could spend a shift on my hunches or having to kneel,,, or flogging huge nuts off with a heavy hammer, none of that carry on does your body any good either
its took me years to realise to totaly leave alone movements that cause problems tho, i loved overhead pressing, but it has helped leaving them out
test and decca definatly takes the edge off tho, i think the semi pump you have before you even step into the gym plays a big part in that, off gear means flat pumpless muscles, that need a thorough warm up/pump up
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don't need to,pump ,less rest betwwen sets,change it up,,eat semi clean enjoy ....
totaly agree... pointless trying to keep going for pb's, just feel the muscle work, big squeezes and lovely smooth movements
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hey, as for joint pains, when im off gear its terrible, when on bit test it goes away 80% i guess im lucky there.
and i dont train as heavy like when i was younger
yeh, thats starting to be my excuse for staying on longer and longer... asking round the gym, most the lads whove had the same time in or more, are along the same lines
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I have such shit joints I feel like I am 80yrs old yet I am only 30yrs old! The HGH helps a little but not much. the more mass I put on and the heavier I got the worse the joints got. sterpods can do some serious joint damage! everybody thinks deca is some majic drug for your joints before they try it but in reality it does not help much all it does is make you hold some water in the right places wich makes your joints feel somewhat better.
anytime I am holding water my joints do not hurt as much!
When I cutt and use cutting drugs they hurt like a bitch! I can barely finish my reguar sets due to the drugs pulling water from my body. Also some of the Pumps I get using cutting drugs like masteron and anavar I get some of the worse pumps and have to rack the weight I get such painfull pumps. I think this is why dorian yates and other pros had so many problems with tearing muscles and having joint and cartilage problems too many steroids and lifting heavy while cutting. winstrol and anavar are horrible for joint pain when you are lean.
even when I am just off cycle or are on a pCT protocol my joints feel like crap! I have had the joint issue since I was in my 20's! serious feel like I am 80yrs old some days! Plus with my disc herniations I realy feel awful. I have never ripped a musclle though! I have strained plenty of muscles and thought I could have ripped a musce but never saw any of them turn black and blue. I think it was highschool when it all started! everybody trying to outlift each other!
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Excellent build.
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bit of an update,... havnt had a shot since before my holls, around 5 weeks now.. im a couple of pound lighter, lost some condition tho and all of my 'pop'...
our summer is a total wash out so i may just stay clean till next year, i havnt botherd with a pct, feel fine, but the aches are unreal, realy struggling in and out of the gym...
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Please explain this fizzy shake.
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you got a pretty good build, would like to see the legs. Any reason why you have basically just protein meals post workout?
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I have such shit joints I feel like I am 80yrs old yet I am only 30yrs old! The HGH helps a little but not much. the more mass I put on and the heavier I got the worse the joints got. sterpods can do some serious joint damage! everybody thinks deca is some majic drug for your joints before they try it but in reality it does not help much all it does is make you hold some water in the right places wich makes your joints feel somewhat better.
anytime I am holding water my joints do not hurt as much!
When I cutt and use cutting drugs they hurt like a bitch! I can barely finish my reguar sets due to the drugs pulling water from my body. Also some of the Pumps I get using cutting drugs like masteron and anavar I get some of the worse pumps and have to rack the weight I get such painfull pumps. I think this is why dorian yates and other pros had so many problems with tearing muscles and having joint and cartilage problems too many steroids and lifting heavy while cutting. winstrol and anavar are horrible for joint pain when you are lean.
even when I am just off cycle or are on a pCT protocol my joints feel like crap! I have had the joint issue since I was in my 20's! serious feel like I am 80yrs old some days! Plus with my disc herniations I realy feel awful. I have never ripped a musclle though! I have strained plenty of muscles and thought I could have ripped a musce but never saw any of them turn black and blue. I think it was highschool when it all started! everybody trying to outlift each other!
What about glucosamine, suppose to work. I take it don't know if it's doing much but my joints don't hurt very often
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^^^ Solid!!!
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You look awesome bro!
Keep up the good work.
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galeniko looking shredz............ never knew you were a fellow brit!
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Please explain this fizzy shake.
its from a new firm called nrg... its just a pre mixed protein shake that tastes like a bottle of pop, lush straight out the fridge after the gym
the no carbs thing at night is just my theory that they arent needed, maybe if your bulking and looking to add alot of weight, but i dont think you need bowls of rice or potatoes for sitting around watching the telly.. maybe if you need the energy for a big sexathon with the mrs
me legs arent as good as they once were, i somtimes have to leave them alone for a few weeks at a time, there still big just not as impressive
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yeah agree on the carbs thing.there are many variables, if someone is natty, he can get away with comparably many carbs, but if someone is on just steroids, carbs will lead to bloat very fast, esp in addition to protein high diet.on steroids and gh, its another story.
and yeah, many bodybuilders overestimate their carb requirements grossly.carb intake when on just steroids should be calculated by how active one is througout the day, and not how often he train, very few carbs will be burned in a training session.
lol the union jack thing ill explain to you in pm, i seen muscleworks gym from the inside, but im not really british. ;D
UR BOTH IN GREAT SHAPE,,AND GALINEKO GOOD COMEBACK ...I AGREE STAY LEAN AND AS STRONG AS ONE CAN ,PUMP,EAT,REST,DRUG IF U MUST...
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bit of an update.... been aching like fuck and struggling to get to the gym regularly because of it,so i started a course of enth and decca, wanted to stay off longer but what can you do!
currently around 17.7st.. was holding 17 quite lean while i was off
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You both look fantastic. Great work fellazzzz.
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I'm bumping this as there's been alot of begginer type questions on here lately, just to show what you can achieve with a basic approach instead of over complicating things... I think there's almost too much info out there to bamboozle people
I,ll be adding to this for next year too, planning to get in spectacular shape for my summer wedding
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I'm bumping this as there's been alot of begginer type questions on here lately, just to show what you can achieve with a basic approach instead of over complicating things... I think there's almost too much info out there to bamboozle people
I,ll be adding to this for next year too, planning to get in spectacular shape for my summer wedding
you are correct on this. Keep it simple. Good thread and great pics.
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Damn dude you look good!!!! Do you have any before pics from before your cycle?
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Damn dude you look good!!!! Do you have any before pics from before your cycle?
Nah, im notbig on pic taking.... i was abit chunkier before I started... I, ll add pics when I start for next yr, before and after
you are correct on this. Keep it simple. Good thread and great pics.
Cheers bud, I see you have blue stars now, I didnt take u for a thong warrior donny..?