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I've been having second thoughts now about my career path off and on for a few years now. it's not as fulfilling as I would like it to be. First job as a college sophomore was as a p/t teller, I've since worked my way up and have been in the finance industry for more than 10 years. Got my own office etc. but want more. My mistake was staying in the industry for so long, my résumé is impressive but very pigeon holed. what would you change your undergrad to?
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Mechanical Engineer. I started going back to college.. and it's just too much right now, new baby, new job, new apartemt... I gotta put it on the back burner. It sucks.
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Same as shockwave: Mechanical Engineering. I have a B.A in Criminal Justice which is a near worthless discipline. I'd love to learn how to modify performance cars and open or franchise a chain of shops. The best I can do is install an alternator...I did a cam swap before and sliced my palm open doing it.
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without a doubt B.A. in Finance and go on to M.B.A.
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Choose the job you want to have. Then pick a degree that'll make you the best at it?
I changed majors a few times, I'd give terrible advice here :)
pre-med to pre-law to history (AA) to education (BS) to computer networking (AS) to business/tech (MBA).
Unless it's a career that depends upon a degree as a requirement (law, medicine, teaching, etc)... Focus more upon acquiring SKILLS versus degrees. Also, we're in a recession - a good time to get school done. Work when economy is good, and learn new things when economy lags.
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The beauty of being retired is that if I want to go back to taking college courses, they don't have to translate to a job and income potential. I can choose to study something simply because it interests me. Someday a lot of you will be in this great place too.
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without a doubt B.A. in Finance and go on to M.B.A.
thanks for all the replies.
ESFitness,Finance MBA'ersare applying left and right where I'm at there's no way to differentiate one from another. When the market crashes again (soon) many of these guys will be laid off. Personally i think an accounting degree is more practical than finance? most jobs is see require a BA in accounting. My undergrad is in International Relations, also damn near worthless especially after being in finance for so long.
Now days its either medical, agriculture, engineering or go into the military as an officer, put in your required 20 be out by 42 and get a fed or contract job.
I was thinking of going back to be an Registered Nurse or even an LPN but my BA is missing so much of the prerequisites, plus I still have to work to pay bills etc.
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I would pick the same major (English/Creative Writing), but I would have done it right out of high school. I wasted too many years fucking around; should have written the great American novel by now. Now I'm settled and uninspired. Aging sucks.
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I would pick the same major (English/Creative Writing), but I would have done it right out of high school. I wasted too many years fucking around; should have written the great American novel by now. Now I'm settled and uninspired. Aging sucks.
I get it! My family has been after me for decades to write a family bio-type novel. I put it off for so long with so many excuses and now I don't have the ambition for it.
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without a doubt B.A. in Finance and go on to M.B.A.
I didn't know you could get a finance major in an arts program. In Canada, a finance major is available in business/commerce undergrads. Saying that, if you took enough electives/credits, I'm sure you could get enough finance credits to get a major in a non-business degree program. It's like taking the extra long route though.
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Marketing and PR! So many fine assed young hoes major in those two :D
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You dont need any qualifications.
You just need to be able to 'read' people and work out their 'wants and needs'.
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I didn't know you could get a finance major in an arts program. In Canada, a finance major is available in business/commerce undergrads. Saying that, if you took enough electives/credits, I'm sure you could get enough finance credits to get a major in a non-business degree program. It's like taking the extra long route though.
lol... sorry. head full'a painmeds today.. just got an abcess lanced and drained.
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I wouldn't go to college if I had it to do all over again. Would have gotten an apprenticeship as an electrician.
But if I had to go back to college: http://explosives.mst.edu/
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Kids are being sold a lie. You will be no better off at being employed with most college degrees than without one. If you go to college make sure that degree says you are something like an accountant, pharmacist, nurse or an engineer. On a side note that lawyer route is filled with lawyers who are working their ass off making less than a 100K.
It seems to me the most well off guys I know are in the trades owning a store or business. I know a granite top guy that lives in an insane house with brand new cars. Another has his electrical license and lives like a king. One handy man with really impressive carpentry skills has to turn away work because he is buried. I know a pizza small shop owner who told me he makes 200K plus for himself alone. My barber who is 30 said he never went to college but almost everyone who graduated high school with him that went to college is unemployed or has a crap job. The barber isn't rich but he owns his business, house and a decent car.
If I had to do it all again I would have listened to my parents and paid more attentions to my studies especially math and would have tried to become a petroleum engineer. One told me that many right out of college are making $170K.
I've done alright for myself in my field. I'm retired in my 50's but I'm certainly not well off.
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I would never go to college. Find something you love, get good at it then teach others
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I would never go to college. Find something you love, get good at it then teach others
Good advice, dj181 never went to college and he is an extremley successful penis saxophonist
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I would never go to college. Find something you love, get good at it then teach others
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college is just paying an adult to spoon feed you words of wisdom
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Good advice, dj181 never went to college and he is an extremley successful penis saxophonist
do you have a pic of him in concert?
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I would pick something fun and interesting, but take it seriously.
Then go to an MBA to concentrate on a career.
I found that undergrad work didn't really translate to preparing me for my job - all the useful stuff came from gaining experience.
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My degree is a B.S. in psychology. It got me my first job, which in turn got me into business for myself. My degree had nothing to do with what I ended up doing, but it was important to have the degree to get my first job. Add in all of the networking skills learned in college, and I think it is a good thing. Just don't have a delusion of what it will get you when you graduate. All of these whiny ass people who got degrees in religion etc. and can't find a job, fuck you, start looking for anything. Get off your ass. People are lazy, and don't have the intestinal fortitude to do what is needed to make it. No job opportunities? Move somewhere where there are. Life is not for pussies, so either get to work, or cry about being broke.
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Choose the job you want to have. Then pick a degree that'll make you the best at it?
I changed majors a few times, I'd give terrible advice here :)
pre-med to pre-law to history (AA) to education (BS) to computer networking (AS) to business/tech (MBA).
Unless it's a career that depends upon a degree as a requirement (law, medicine, teaching, etc)... Focus more upon acquiring SKILLS versus degrees. Also, we're in a recession - a good time to get school done. Work when economy is good, and learn new things when economy lags.
Agree with that! You have to be passionate about something to excel at it!
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I think chemistry. Then I can create my own HGH and steroids from scratch.
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I would major in bodybuilding.
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I think another bill of goods being sold is that your job has to be your hobby. If it is as the saying goes you got the world by the balls. Having said that, it's called work. If work isn't entertaining you or it's not your passion but paying the bills that's success. Have your fun when you are off work. I thought what my career was for 28 years would be something that I loved but in the end it just provided me with a big house with a 1500 square foot home gym and an in ground swimming pool. No, I didn't love my job. It wasn't my passion or hobby. It just provided for my family.
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I have no "interest" in any kind of job. I have interest in being alone and leading, doing everything I want by myself instead of being dominated by someone else. All jobs are easier as long as you re the boss.
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go on to M.B.A.
Then go to an MBA to concentrate on a career.
Incur almost a quarter of a million dollars in costs (2 years of opportunity cost salary + ~$120K non-dischargeable debt) to learn undergrad-level finance/economics (probably somewhat less, actually) with some non-sensical "business ethics" and "leadership" courses lathered on top, acquiring a very fungible property ('MBA owner') given how many MBA's are pumped out per year across the country?
Unless you had extremely specific jobs in mind where the MBA serves as a filter for candidates (e.g., specific positions in investment banking), you guys are probably just as well off.
("The Economic Returns To An Mba")
http://ideas.repec.org/a/ier/iecrev/v49y2008i3p873-899.html
I have no "interest" in any kind of job. I have interest in being alone and leading, doing everything I want by myself instead of being dominated by someone else. All jobs are easier as long as you re the boss.
Don't be so hard on yourself: assistant manager at a fast food place is actually a demanding job. You need a lot of attention to detail and the ability to think and act quickly.
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Same as shockwave: Mechanical Engineering. I have a B.A in Criminal Justice which is a near worthless discipline. I'd love to learn how to modify performance cars and open or franchise a chain of shops. The best I can do is install an alternator...I did a cam swap before and sliced my palm open doing it.
Did u slice it on a lobe? (which should be chamfered and not sharp)
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I think another bill of goods being sold is that your job has to be your hobby. If it is as the saying goes you got the world by the balls. Having said that, it's called work. If work isn't entertaining you or it's not your passion but paying the bills that's success. Have your fun when you are off work. I thought what my career was for 28 years would be something that I loved but in the end it just provided me with a big house with a 1500 square foot home gym and an in ground swimming pool. No, I didn't love my job. It wasn't my passion or hobby. It just provided for my family.
Couldn't agree more. Everyone has heard the saying "find something that you love to do and you'll never work a day in your life". This is the biggest misconception in choosing a career. Doing something for a living and doing it as a hobby are entirely different animals. A hobby you do when you feel like it, you go to work whether you like it or not. This alone can turn a fun hobby into something you don't want to touch again.
On top of this a lot of people that truly enjoy their work will tend to neglect their personal lives and relationships. They don't mind spending extra hours at their job. We work to live, not live to work.
You choose a career that will support a lifestyle that you want. Nothing more, nothing less.
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Kids are being sold a lie. You will be no better off at being employed with most college degrees than without one. If you go to college make sure that degree says you are something like an accountant, pharmacist, nurse or an engineer. On a side note that lawyer route is filled with lawyers who are working their ass off making less than a 100K.
It seems to me the most well off guys I know are in the trades owning a store or business. I know a granite top guy that lives in an insane house with brand new cars. Another has his electrical license and lives like a king. One handy man with really impressive carpentry skills has to turn away work because he is buried. I know a pizza small shop owner who told me he makes 200K plus for himself alone. My barber who is 30 said he never went to college but almost everyone who graduated high school with him that went to college is unemployed or has a crap job. The barber isn't rich but he owns his business, house and a decent car.
If I had to do it all again I would have listened to my parents and paid more attentions to my studies especially math and would have tried to become a petroleum engineer. One told me that many right out of college are making $170K.
I've done alright for myself in my field. I'm retired in my 50's but I'm certainly not well off.
Funny I notice is some countries, particularly the US surprisingly, people are more concerned about what you do than how much money you make. In others, what you do is irrelevant , its strictly the bank statement that matters.
And if you're academically inclined or a real keener sure, further yourself and attain a degree but if its money you are after why waste time competing with 50 000 other people aiming for that same small niche you are with no guarantee of monetary success. This must be about pride and honour and not common sense , OR an old outdated mentality
Most of my relatives have degrees and a couple even attained MDs and are doing OK but still living MODESTLY, the entrepreneurs in the family with charisma wit intuition and no known form of education spend their winters in Bahamas and are living more than comfortable making 150-250k/year easily. When the 'security contractors' I know aren't overseas shooting arabs they are spending 20k on vacations to the French Polynesia, hitting casinos in Montenegro and rocking rolexes and $8000 cuff links.. So what are people really after in life?? Money>degree , this is 2013 not 1950.
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Mechanical Engineer. I started going back to college.. and it's just too much right now, new baby, new job, new apartemt... I gotta put it on the back burner. It sucks.
Ditto, Engineer, then law.
Keep at it bro....don't put it off things get busier and busier with life, try to get back at it ASAP.
On a side note that lawyer route is filled with lawyers who are working their ass off making less than a 100K.
You know someone?
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anesthesiologist. Same pay as a doctor and you don't have to deal with patients. You just show up make sure they don't die and get paid. Plus your not married to a hospital if Obama care cuts your wage go work for a plastic surgeon.
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anesthesiologist. Same pay as a doctor and you don't have to deal with patients. You just show up make sure they don't die and get paid. Plus your not married to a hospital if Obama care cuts your wage go work for a plastic surgeon.
They have the highest suicide rate, don't they?
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Liberal Arts
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assholes & elbows
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Ditto, Engineer, then law.
Keep at it bro....don't put it off things get busier and busier with life, try to get back at it ASAP.
You know someone?
Don't know what you are implying with that cryptic remark? I've worked around lawyers and courts for 28 years. Yes, the lawyer field is saturated. I can't count how many attorneys walk into court in cheap dirty suits and beater cars in municipal court. For every rich certified trial attorney there are so many lawyers busting their ass for less pay than a plumber.
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In the end there are happy and miserable rich people. Money doesn't dictate happiness. I grew up very modestly in a lower working class neighborhood. I have found some of the happiest people among them. Houses full of laughter, love and family. If you have a roof over your head and food to eat you are rich in the real scheme of things. Though money sure does make life easier.
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Good advice, dj181 never went to college and he is an extremley successful penis saxophonist
:D ;D
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I'd like to try mechancal engineering also if I had to pick another undergrad (civil/environmental engineer now). I like my career and get to do interesting work and make decent $ but like most of you, I see guys with high school level educations that make more than I do. I see guys who I know were dumb as hell in high school making good money at their own business or family business. It's not all about the money though, I'd like to be my own boss.
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A B.A in Dietetics ~ without question.
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AAHAAHAHAH!!! Almost everyone I know earns way more than me and never went to college.
And I'm still payin my school loans off LOL!!! It's all good though, things could be far, far, far, worse.
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It seems learning a trade is the way to make money today. Become a plumber, electrician, carpenter, counter top guy, or along those lines. If you want to go to college to learn humanities go part time while you are making money.
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What - Theoretical Physics.
Why - Nothing to do with income, and everything to do with interest.
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Don't know what you are implying with that cryptic remark? I've worked around lawyers and courts for 28 years. Yes, the lawyer field is saturated. I can't count how many attorneys walk into court in cheap dirty suits and beater cars in municipal court. For every rich certified trial attorney there are so many lawyers busting their ass for less pay than a plumber.
lol, not cyrptic. I wanted to hear the insight into the comment. Yeah, I have heard a lot of lawyers trying to make it in criminal and hanging around the court for work, some to the point of sleeping in those beat up cars.
The FIRST THING, they tell you at law school orientation, "We cant' promise you a job afterwards." ::)
Many schools have encountered countless lawsuits on the issue.
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Psychology. It was always a strong point for me, and I enjoy encouraging people on forums like these if they're having problems. I studied Mortuary Science in college instead. Yes, seriously.
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Psychology. It was always a strong point for me, and I enjoy encouraging people on forums like these if they're having problems. I studied Mortuary Science in college instead. Yes, seriously.
Same here. Psychology or sociology.
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Major of Bodybuilding
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It seems learning a trade is the way to make money today. Become a plumber, electrician, carpenter, counter top guy, or along those lines. If you want to go to college to learn humanities go part time while you are making money.
Joining a trade union is great security and great money.
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Joining a trade union is great security and great money.
I don't know about great money , $17 to $ 50 /hr depend the trade and where you live .
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I don't know about great money , $17 to $ 50 /hr depend the trade and where you live .
yeah. depends what you consider great i guess.
17-50 is from apprentice to journeyperson in most trades.
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Psychology. It was always a strong point for me, and I enjoy encouraging people on forums like these if they're having problems. I studied Mortuary Science in college instead. Yes, seriously.
That's pretty smart. I mean, if you fuck up a job what's the worst that can happen?