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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Natural Beast on December 13, 2013, 11:58:35 AM
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recently in his latest seminar ruhl was asked if everything is ok with his heart he laughed and said his heart is as big as an elephant but he feels scared to die after the death of kovacs.. also he said he would like to see kai win the mr. o because he deserves it more than phil... oh and he said kai lives in a luxury apartment in nyc and Ronnie didn't work as a cop after he won the o.. it was all played.
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i'm afraid to die too.
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Got a video of that or something?
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Got a video of that or something?
yeah but only in german
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yeah but only in german
I happen to be fluent
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Ruhl does not believe coming in shredded condition is important..I have heard him state this...Phil so far has out conditioned Kai...
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Ruhl is one of the greatest of all time. He should have two Sandows on his mantle.
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On the contrary, I believe death is afraid of Marcus.
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Ruhl was freaky but not pretty at all..I think that probably had to do with him not placing near the top...
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Ruhl is good person.
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Markus is a good man with a kind heart
that's more important than Sandows
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you mean the police parts were actors etc with extensive police aparel to play the video?
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not really 'surprising' facts, but some food for thought nonetheless :)
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I think Ronnie stooped with the police after he won in 2000, his 3rd o win
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On the contrary, I believe death is afraid of Marcus.
well played sir.
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I think it will be a long time before you watch a video like The Unbelievable again.
Cutler, Phil, Kai are all playing second fiddle to what Ronnie was in 97-2003.
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Death comes to us all
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Death comes to us all
QFT
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Death comes to us all
Around the corner every single day, which day will it be?
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Big dude...But he is no Klaus...
(http://www.pakkotoisto.com/vbulletin/attachment.php?attachmentid=7405&d=1098718331)
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One of the larger men in his town
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Death comes to us all; we can only choose how to face it when it comes.
― Robert Jordan, The Dragon Reborn
Always plan for the worst, child, that way all your surprises are pleasant ones.
― Robert Jordan, The Dragon Reborn
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Ruhl should be scared to die. Most getbiggers including myself have him on the next deathlist...
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you mean the police parts were actors etc with extensive police aparel to play the video?
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My understanding is that after a certain point he fell into a auxiliary/part time role that was mainly public relations.
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Ruhl should be scared to die. Most getbiggers including myself have him on the next deathlist...
These guys can't stop. He and Ronnie are still big as fvck altought they look like crap now. And Ronnie is almost 50, has looked really sick for a while... PIP. :/
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My understanding is that after a certain point he fell into a auxiliary/part time role that was mainly public relations.
Ronald would never tell a lie, if he said he was working full time, he was
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Ruhl is good person.
such a sweet man, definitely. one of the good guys.
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offcourse he will die young certainly if he doesnt go down in weight
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Ronald would never tell a lie, if he said he was working full time, he was
lol
he also said he is lifetime natural
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I hope the best for Ruhl, but I hardly doubt he will live to be 60.
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Would still greatly appreciate it if we could get a link here.
Most recent thing I can find on youtube is from July.
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lol
he also said he is lifetime natural
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Death comes to us all; we can only choose how to face it when it comes.
― Robert Jordan, The Dragon Reborn
Always plan for the worst, child, that way all your surprises are pleasant ones.
― Robert Jordan, The Dragon Reborn
The Wheel of Time series is one of the best ever. I put it just behind LoR and The Hobbit. Too bad Jordan didn't finish it himself before he passed away. Nice to see another enthusiast here.
As for Ruhl. Well, in reality who isn't?
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If Ruhl downsizes now he will have an elephants heart in a small body.
The damage is done, question is, is it even worth it to try to salvage it a little bit,
how much could he extend his lifespan if he were to get off drugs or go on HRT now?
Might the downsizing stress out his body even more, with all the protein breakdown etc?
I don't know, I'm no cardiologist.
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The Wheel of Time series is one of the best ever. I put it just behind LoR and The Hobbit. Too bad Jordan didn't finish it himself before he passed away. Nice to see another enthusiast here.
As for Ruhl. Well, in reality who isn't?
Dude I was sooo pissed when he died...
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He does not take steroids so should be ok for a few years.
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The Wheel of Time series is one of the best ever. I put it just behind LoR and The Hobbit. Too bad Jordan didn't finish it himself before he passed away. Nice to see another enthusiast here.
Honestly? I found it mediocre at best.
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If Ruhl downsizes now he will have an elephants heart in a small body.
The damage is done, question is, is it even worth it to try to salvage it a little bit,
how much could he extend his lifespan if he were to get off drugs or go on HRT now?
Might the downsizing stress out his body even more, with all the protein breakdown etc?
I don't know, I'm no cardiologist.
good questions
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Big dude...But he is no Klaus...
(http://www.pakkotoisto.com/vbulletin/attachment.php?attachmentid=7405&d=1098718331)
It is the month of Das Uberfreak, well played, and a merry klausmas to you all
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If Ruhl downsizes now he will have an elephants heart in a small body.
The damage is done, question is, is it even worth it to try to salvage it a little bit,
how much could he extend his lifespan if he were to get off drugs or go on HRT now?
Might the downsizing stress out his body even more, with all the protein breakdown etc?
I don't know, I'm no cardiologist.
actually his cardiologist said he never had a patient like ruhl, he said he cant put him in a category but his heart is okay and he can continue to do whatever he wants to do.. that's what ruhl exactly said in his seminar
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wish the best for markus i really hope hes an exception
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If Ruhl downsizes now he will have an elephants heart in a small body.
The damage is done, question is, is it even worth it to try to salvage it a little bit,
how much could he extend his lifespan if he were to get off drugs or go on HRT now?
Might the downsizing stress out his body even more, with all the protein breakdown etc?
I don't know, I'm no cardiologist.
Yeah, that's a great point... really Good questions..
What happens when the body shrinks, but the organs (everything but brain and eyeballs?) have grown so much?
Arms and legs are half as big, but the heart is still that large, intestines and liver and hands are still that big.
it's fascinating... A lot of longtime bodybuilding enthusiasts LOVE this question and are really interesting in seeing what exactly happens. The BBers might be fine... and I'm sure some doctors on getbig can speak more wisely on this...
How does the body work - after ending BBing career - when organs are all enlarged but the BBer shrinks by 50 pounds of muscle?
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If Ruhl downsizes now he will have an elephants heart in a small body.
The damage is done, question is, is it even worth it to try to salvage it a little bit,
how much could he extend his lifespan if he were to get off drugs or go on HRT now?
Might the downsizing stress out his body even more, with all the protein breakdown etc?
I don't know, I'm no cardiologist.
theres no studies on such i think, but the less weight,the better, theres no question.
ruehl dont want to downsize,though,if he wanted,it would have happened long ago.
i dont get it he dont compete, yet still walks around with this size.
protein breakdown wouldnt be too bad i think, hed flush out 50lbs of water before any protein goes :D
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:P i don't know he looks healthy to me. ::) ::) ::)
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theres no studies on such i think, but the less weight,the better, theres no question.
ruehl dont want to downsize,though,if he wanted,it would have happened long ago.
i dont get it he dont compete, yet still walks around with this size.
protein breakdown wouldnt be too bad i think, hed flush out 50lbs of water before any protein goes :D
I look at it like this... much of the BBer's self-identity is that he's the biggest dude in every room he's entered since he was 17 years old. Dude are always kissing ass, Girls always feeling him up.
To lose that... I mean, how many of us would scale down from our svelte 200 pounds to 140 pounds tomorrow if the doc told us "You may live 5 years longer if you're 60 pounds lighter"?
We'd probably tell the doctor thanks, but no thanks. We'd lose our standing among those around us, get far fewer girls, and have everyone asking "What happnened, where did all your muscle go?"
Now and then you'll see NFL players that retire from O-line and drop 80 pounds and look great at 210 pounds. Smart and healthy. But for some of the BBers that have been perceived as superman for 25+ years to suddenly look scrawny with insanely big head and feet and hands (making muscles look even worse), I can see why they'd put it off.
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:P i don't know he looks healthy to me. ::) ::) ::)
just noticed marcus r looks a lot like rodney dangerfield..... ;D ;D ;D ;D
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just noticed marcus r looks a lot like rodney dangerfield..... ;D ;D ;D ;D
He always reminded me a bit of older, chubbier John Ritter.
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just noticed marcus r looks a lot like rodney dangerfield..... ;D ;D ;D ;D
;D
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theres no studies on such i think, but the less weight,the better, theres no question.
ruehl dont want to downsize,though,if he wanted,it would have happened long ago.
i dont get it he dont compete, yet still walks around with this size.
protein breakdown wouldnt be too bad i think, hed flush out 50lbs of water before any protein goes :D
we all know how that worked out for nasser.
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he should be. he used the same stuff as nasser in the same amounts or more. + he's a smoker.
dead within the next 5 years for sure.
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His head is big.
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theres no studies on such i think, but the less weight,the better, theres no question.
I think there are studies that have concluded that the less calories you eat the longer you live.
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I think there are studies that have concluded that the less calories you eat the longer you live.
Moreover, the shorter your lifespan, the less calories you will have eaten by the time you die. More or less, of course.
Chicken or egg?
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Great hair and teeth = long life. Markus will see us all buried.
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It is not all about if they die or not.
Imagine living the last 5 years of the lives of Nasser, Kovacs, Munzer or DA. All of them had health problems. They might have lived, but not a good life in terms of their health.
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theres no studies on such i think, but the less weight,the better, theres no question.
ruehl dont want to downsize,though,if he wanted,it would have happened long ago.
i dont get it he dont compete, yet still walks around with this size.
protein breakdown wouldnt be too bad i think, hed flush out 50lbs of water before any protein goes :D
It should lessen the stress on the heart I'm sure. Though from what I've read the changes to the heart are permanent to a large extent.
But if Ruhl were to get completely off he would be in an extremely weakened state and whatever health issues he has might finish him right off... just complete speculation on my part, just a hunch. Tapering off would be good, but imagine if he's been on daily thyroid, steroids, gh, insulin for a couple of decades straight and stopped all that at once. Sounds dangerous to me, the whole system would go into shock, blood sugar would be all over the place, thyroid all messed up, huge water loss all at once etc. :D
I remember on musclemayhem a decade ago or so when cswole said he got off his bottle a day habit. He was complaining of feeling like utter shit, couldn't sleep for weeks etc. Sounded like a junkie going cold turkey. :D
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I think there are studies that have concluded that the less calories you eat the longer you live.
perhaps. But I don't want to live to be 90 not drinking or eating a lot of meat. Fuck it. We might as well have a bit of fun while we're here.
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It should lessen the stress on the heart I'm sure. Though from what I've read the changes to the heart are permanent to a large extent.
But if Ruhl were to get completely off he would be in an extremely weakened state and whatever health issues he has might finish him right off... just complete speculation on my part, just a hunch. Tapering off would be good, but imagine if he's been on daily thyroid, steroids, gh, insulin for a couple of decades straight and stopped all that at once. Sounds dangerous to me, the whole system would go into shock, blood sugar would be all over the place, thyroid all messed up, huge water loss all at once etc. :D
I remember on musclemayhem a decade ago or so when cswole said he got off his bottle a day habit. He was complaining of feeling like utter shit, couldn't sleep for weeks etc. Sounded like a junkie going cold turkey. :D
ah yeah good point,lol.
i was thinking for some reason its just the steorids,haha.
he will live on trt or soemthing liek that,will feel very bad till ge gets small.yes iner organs i dont see how they can get smaller in size.
would suprise me if hes off good blood sugar and liver health,i remember his advice for gaining size was the daily proteina nd then top that up with whatever you can fit in the stomach.
i forgot the insulin, t3s , gh.
hell i know t3 levels will recover quickly, if not, t4 for life.
hgh, tbh i dont know if exogonus gh will shut down endogenous production, someone look that up.
insulin, well, that he can stop,if hes diabetic,then its gonna be type 2.
not sure he will ta[per off at all,though.
diabloblanco, yes theres studies theyre very clear eating little is best as far lifespan is ocncerned.
btw im not even sure ruehl is one of the biggest eaters
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Moreover, the shorter your lifespan, the less calories you will have eaten by the time you die. More or less, of course.
Chicken or egg?
retard. this post makes no sense what so ever.
if people are eating less and living longer, then the people who eat more are dying sooner.
HTH
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Dude doesn't like his gas hanging around..
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I think there are studies that have concluded that the less calories you eat the longer you live.
Tons of studies. Basically if you live like a twink and eat like a bird you'll definitely, definitely live longer. Not exactly my cup of tea. But I still bodybuild and just eat on the lower side and don't balloon up. I think that's the best balance.
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Around the corner every single day, which day will it be?
Literally every second my friend.
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Enlarged organs is gonna be the downfall for most of these guys, even if there weights and diets were completely average, they've been enlarged from the gh abuse.
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retard. this post makes no sense what so ever.
if people are eating less and living longer, then the people who eat more are dying sooner.
HTH
Haha yes he was a little too clever for his own good with that post
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ITs not being a big dude that kills these guys its being a huge lean dude. if your 5'10...Keep it to 190-220. no leaner than 8% bf and no more than 12% bf. You are healthiest at 10-12% bf this is when insulin sensitivity is at it's peak in the tissues and your natural hormonal production is at its highest. do vigorous weight training 3-5 days per week and eat an extremely low carb to no carb diet....you will slow the aging process, You will keep the diabetes away AND look great....as good as you ever need to for real life.
if you want to compete and/ or build the best body you can be with the time you have n this earth and could give two shits about your health than do what you have to do. you only live once.
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Dante Doggcrapp has a theory on why many heavy bodybuilders drop dead earlier than necessary.
It makes sense to me. Heavy guys frequently have sleep apnea, which is correlated with cardiovascular problems. Your heart never gets any rest if you don't treat the sleep apnea.
Some doc claimed 90% of heavy bodybuilders have sleep apnea. It's a heart killer.
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ah yeah good point,lol.
i was thinking for some reason its just the steorids,haha.
he will live on trt or soemthing liek that,will feel very bad till ge gets small.yes iner organs i dont see how they can get smaller in size.
would suprise me if hes off good blood sugar and liver health,i remember his advice for gaining size was the daily proteina nd then top that up with whatever you can fit in the stomach.
i forgot the insulin, t3s , gh.
hell i know t3 levels will recover quickly, if not, t4 for life.
hgh, tbh i dont know if exogonus gh will shut down endogenous production, someone look that up.
insulin, well, that he can stop,if hes diabetic,then its gonna be type 2.
not sure he will ta[per off at all,though.
diabloblanco, yes theres studies theyre very clear eating little is best as far lifespan is ocncerned.
btw im not even sure ruehl is one of the biggest eaters
Yes HGH will down regulate your own production. No clue how responsive it is when you stop taking it though
, i think it's Not an issue though
Even GHRP peptides which are supposed to stimulate your own production, will eventually down regulate your own because your body becomes used to the hyper pituitary stimulation.
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Dante Doggcrapp has a theory on why many heavy bodybuilders drop dead earlier than necessary.
It makes sense to me. Heavy guys frequently have sleep apnea, which is correlated with cardiovascular problems. Your heart never gets any rest if you don't treat the sleep apnea.
Some doc claimed 90% of heavy bodybuilders have sleep apnea. It's a heart killer.
I think the massive amount of weight definitely has something to do with it. I've always said for years that gaining tons of weight isn't healthy, and that's not me being a pedantic know-it-all. It should be common sense - it requires no higher level of intelligence and I don't think anyone with half a brain would argue otherwise. Why can't anyone else connect the dots? If you're heavy, it's stressful for the heart. Therefore, don't be so fucking heavy! You can still body build if you want, but I think every bodybuilder should be aware of this and shouldn't do things like balloon in the off season or put on tons of weight post-contest. Little things like this will save you from dying earlier than you should. Completely unnecessary to stand in harm's way.
ITs not being a big dude that kills these guys its being a huge lean dude. if your 5'10...Keep it to 190-220. no leaner than 8% bf and no more than 12% bf. You are healthiest at 10-12% bf this is when insulin sensitivity is at it's peak in the tissues and your natural hormonal production is at its highest. do vigorous weight training 3-5 days per week and eat an extremely low carb to no carb diet....you will slow the aging process, You will keep the diabetes away AND look great....as good as you ever need to for real life.
if you want to compete and/ or build the best body you can be with the time you have n this earth and could give two shits about your health than do what you have to do. you only live once.
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I wouldn't go as far as saying being big is completely safe, but you're onto something. Lots of bodybuilders are just flat out lardasses. Look at all the visceral adipose tissue these guys have. They look 9 months pregnant and are only dialed down for a couple of weeks at a time during the entire year. And to get there, you're right. They use copious amounts of drugs and lose the fat in the most dangerous way possible. Big and lean usually is a recipe for disaster, at least the way the current generation is getting there.
I'm not saying anyone should stop taking drugs or bodybuilding. I just feel perplexed as to why everyone's doing it the most dangerous way possible. It's like they all have a death wish or something.
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I think the massive amount of weight definitely has something to do with it. I've always said for years that gaining tons of weight isn't healthy, and that's not me being a pedantic know-it-all. It should be common sense - it requires no higher level of intelligence and I don't think anyone with half a brain would argue otherwise. Why can't anyone else connect the dots? If you're heavy, it's stressful for the heart. Therefore, don't be so fucking heavy! You can still body build if you want, but I think every bodybuilder should be aware of this and shouldn't do things like balloon in the off season or put on tons of weight post-contest. Little things like this will save you from dying earlier than you should. Completely unnecessary to stand in harm's way.
Sure, but if you insist on weighing a lot make sure you sleep well and aren't "drowning" each night. Sleep apnea will hypertrophy the heart. Androgens can cause sleep apnea independent of weight gain, exact mechanism unknown from what I gather. Sleep apnea is a contraindication for TRT even.
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Sleep apnea induced by a bodybuilding lifestyle and side effects should be a MAJOR wake up call to find another hobby!
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Sure, but if you insist on weighing a lot make sure you sleep well and aren't "drowning" each night. Sleep apnea will hypertrophy the heart. Androgens can cause sleep apnea independent of weight gain, exact mechanism unknown from what I gather. Sleep apnea is a contraindication for TRT even.
My fertility doctor mentioned the latter when I said I'd probably get on TRT later in life. He said to take care of my heart now. Didn't patronize me, just gave me the real information that he knew of and that was pretty cool of him. I'm not even a heavy guy, but when I used to do ridiculous bulks when I was younger I noticed I'd snort and have trouble breathing at night. When I'd get the hypnic kick as I was falling asleep, I'd catch myself snorting a couple of times. Pretty scary.
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As simple as it may sound, it really is this simple: Hardcore bodybuilding only lasts for a very short time. Either 1) Enjoy it (and the attention it garners) 2) Don't do it 3) Deal with the consequences ~
Ronnie Coleman shoulda said "Everybody wanna be big, but don't nobody wanna die"
You can still have an impressive physique and live a healthy life if'n u wants to be a bodybuilder. Question is (as with most anything else) "Where do you draw the line?"
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Dude doesn't like his gas hanging around..
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His dumps must be gigantic.
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Great hair and teeth = long life. Markus will see us all buried.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=507603.0;attach=543545;image)
You know you're in trouble when a family of three can live inside one of your facial pores.
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ah yeah good point,lol.
i was thinking for some reason its just the steorids,haha.
he will live on trt or soemthing liek that,will feel very bad till ge gets small.yes iner organs i dont see how they can get smaller in size.
would suprise me if hes off good blood sugar and liver health,i remember his advice for gaining size was the daily proteina nd then top that up with whatever you can fit in the stomach.
i forgot the insulin, t3s , gh.
hell i know t3 levels will recover quickly, if not, t4 for life.
hgh, tbh i dont know if exogonus gh will shut down endogenous production, someone look that up.
insulin, well, that he can stop,if hes diabetic,then its gonna be type 2.
not sure he will ta[per off at all,though.
diabloblanco, yes theres studies theyre very clear eating little is best as far lifespan is ocncerned.
btw im not even sure ruehl is one of the biggest eaters
eating less food and especially less protein has been shown to extend life in various organisms.
By reducing calories and protein you reduce IGF-1, this slows the rate of cell division. In its most basic form the slower the rate of cell division, the longer the cells live. If all your cells collectively divide more slowly you will live longer, assuming you dont get run over by a truck.
All these supplement companies saying take this and that to boost IGF-1, its just accelerating your aging process.
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eating less food and especially less protein has been shown to extend life in various organisms.
By reducing calories and protein you reduce IGF-1, this slows the rate of cell division. In its most basic form the slower the rate of cell division, the longer the cells live. If all your cells collectively divide more slowly you will live longer, assuming you dont get run over by a truck.
All these supplement companies saying take this and that to boost IGF-1, its just accelerating your aging process.
No IGF, no muscle gains though >:(
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It should lessen the stress on the heart I'm sure. Though from what I've read the changes to the heart are permanent to a large extent.
But if Ruhl were to get completely off he would be in an extremely weakened state and whatever health issues he has might finish him right off... just complete speculation on my part, just a hunch. Tapering off would be good, but imagine if he's been on daily thyroid, steroids, gh, insulin for a couple of decades straight and stopped all that at once. Sounds dangerous to me, the whole system would go into shock, blood sugar would be all over the place, thyroid all messed up, huge water loss all at once etc. :D
I remember on musclemayhem a decade ago or so when cswole said he got off his bottle a day habit. He was complaining of feeling like utter shit, couldn't sleep for weeks etc. Sounded like a junkie going cold turkey. :D
The changes to the heart are permanent, however massively reducing the workload it has to do by losing weight is going to have a significant benefit. Additionally there are still plenty of things that can be done to maintain and improve heart function, even if it is compromised.
A genuinely healthy diet that is low in calories (not 400 grams of lean protein a day as muscle and fitness would have you believe) would help.
I believe any bodybuilder can sufficiently turn his situation around. Ok, there are some things that cannot change, and there may be some lifelong increased risks that they will have to accept, but many things can be done to reduce those risks.
Unfortunately most bodybuilders both competitive and recreational, are either limited by their intellect, lack of common sense or simply "head in the sand" merchants who cannot make the changes to prevent their early expiration.
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No IGF, no muscle gains though >:(
For those who want development to the level that only chemical enhancement can give, then yes!
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retard. this post makes no sense what so ever.
if people are eating less and living longer, then the people who eat more are dying sooner.
HTH
There is no evidence that eating less means you live longer in general. Evidence is from rat and mouse studies. And, in that case, the amount of reduction in nutritional intake is very drastic - about 50%.
Efforts to prove the life extending benefits of calorie restriction in primates have so far failed.
However, if you are overweight, then there is substantial observational and clinical evidence for an increased risk of early death.
Calorie restriction is supposed to extend anyone's life, whether they begin by being overweight or not. That is a very different thesis, and remains unproven beyond the initial rat and mouse studies.
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For those who want development to the level that only chemical enhancement can give, then yes!
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recently in his latest seminar ruhl was asked if everything is ok with his heart he laughed and said his heart is as big as an elephant but he feels scared to die after the death of kovacs.. also he said he would like to see kai win the mr. o because he deserves it more than phil... oh and he said kai lives in a luxury apartment in nyc and Ronnie didn't work as a cop after he won the o.. it was all played.
you mean bodybuilders lie?
muscletech is dehydrated mouse shit?
tbombz is gay?
the world is crumbling
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Sleep apnea induced by a bodybuilding lifestyle and side effects should be a MAJOR wake up call to find another hobby!
It's so minor relative to all the other health effects. Artery clogging diets, poor circulation due to enlarge joints(Gh) enlarged bowels(gh guts), insulin issues, enlarged heart, general hormone instability, high blood pressure, needle usage, and diuretics all way the fuck outrank that shit.
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Ruhl will live forever. People have been putting him on top of their dead pool for like 15 years now and yet lo and behold here we are...
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this is why bodybuilding should be a 2-4 year hobby. I really don't see how a guy who has been doing everything in his power to get as big and huge as possible is going to gain anything after two years of putting the gas to the pedal anyways. even the guys with elite genetics look at kuclo, hes what 28? look at pictures of him at 23-24...looked better younger.
your not gonna ruin your life abusing yourself for a couple of years lol haha oh brother. look at frank sepe.... Markhus was huge for almost two decades
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because everybody dies but not everybody gets 20" arms
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Isn't high blood pressure the main problem these guys face?
Even 250 mg of test E per week can give you a high BP, and all these guys are probably doing that daily. Add the fact they all ballon up in the off-season. Their BP must be brutal.
And they usually live like this since his 20's (when they start bbing) until their 50's, etc. Thirty years having a brutal BP canīt be healthy.
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Isn't high blood pressure the main problem these guys face?
Even 250 mg of test E per week can give you a high BP, and all these guys are probably doing that daily. Add the fact they all ballon up in the off-season. Their BP must be brutal.
And they usually live like this since his 20's (when they start bbing) until their 50's, etc. Thirty years having a brutal BP canīt be healthy.
guys with shitty genetics sure...these are the guys who get high blood pressure 4 weeks into a cycle of equipoise and have no business juicing in the first place.
The guys like myself and "no one" can take whatever the fuck we want and don't get those sides,,period. My blood pressure was was 110/70 after being on 500mg testosterone cypionate for three years..
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my bp was 120/90
doctor said it's normal ???
most of 2013 was 300-500mg test e
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I really doubt you guys are weighing around 260-280 pounds (with a brutal water retention) like the pros I was talking about.
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I really doubt you guys are weighing around 260 pounds like the pros I was talking about.
no but isnt 120/90 high?
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my bp was 120/90
doctor said it's normal ???
most of 2013 was 300-500mg test e
not high..that's pretty average.
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no but isnt 120/90 high?
Your diastolic (90) is a tad high (80 is expected), but not too bad.
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Your diastolic (90) is a tad high (80 is expected), but not too bad.
thanks
but since i'm going "off" (reduce to 150mg) for 8 weeks or so (if i last that long...) that may improve
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thanks
but since i'm going "off" (reduce to 150mg) for 8 weeks or so (if i last that long...) that may improve
I would guess that as well. You are in good condition and fairly lean.
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I would guess that as well. You are in good condition and fairly lean.
i never do cardio so i'm not in good condition tho
but i dont see a bb advantage to it + i hate it so yeah
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i never do cardio so i'm not in good condition tho
but i dont see a bb advantage to it + i hate it so yeah
Im using bodybuilding terminology, meaning you have low Bodyfat, which is a good thing for controlling your BP.
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Im using bodybuilding terminology, meaning you have low Bodyfat, which is a good thing for controlling your BP.
ha i see
george farrah says if you dont have abs ur not a bber
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ha i see
george farrah says if you dont have abs ur not a bber
I agree.
Farrah also puts all of his clients on SOME cardio. Even the extreme ectomorphs because it will 1) make them hungrier>>>allow them to eat more than they could have and 2) enhances nutrient partitioning effects and 3) is good for your cardiovascular system.
I grow better when I do a bit of low intensity cardio post workout, it's true.
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I agree.
Farrah also puts all of his clients on SOME cardio. Even the extreme ectomorphs because it will 1) make them hungrier>>>allow them to eat more than they could have and 2) enhances nutrient partitioning effects and 3) is good for your cardiovascular system.
I grow better when I do a bit of low intensity cardio post workout, it's true.
Everyone should do some cardio. Why ignore the heart muscle just because you can't flex it (ok I guess that's a reason to ignore it, but still people shouldn't)
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Everyone should do some cardio. Why ignore the heart muscle just because you can't flex it (ok I guess that's a reason to ignore it, but still people shouldn't)
Agreed.
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Dude doesn't like his gas hanging around..
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that's gold jerry, GOLD ;D ;D
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He looks f*cked for a forty year old.
Im 40 and could pass for 30 - whereas he looks 57.
If his organs are as old as he looks, he will be dead in 5-10 max.
post your pics getbig will be the judge of that..... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D