You think if you made it to the professional level, then you might be able to train yourself?... I understand the "dirty" might need some advice, but training? Thats what i like about Jay, such an individual. These guys train as hard and as smart as they want to, same way they did when they were 18, same when they were 25, etc. You think they would establish a style? or take notes on what won that pro card to begin with.