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Title: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: The_Hammer on January 13, 2008, 11:05:46 PM
After seeing Nasser's recent pictures one can only wonder which bodybuilders have AIDS.  His body has shrunk big time and I suspect that his homosexual lifestyle has caught up with him.

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Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: Matt C on January 13, 2008, 11:26:04 PM
HIV is a predominantly homosexual disease and the propaganda targeting straight men on my university campus is pretty offensive to me.  Next let's advertise warnings against diabetes to those who patron health food stores.  ::)  The poster on campus said "Do you recognize the face of AIDS?" and had a picture of a woman on it - the least likely sex to transmit the disease.  Female-to-male transmission efficiency of HIV is second lowest only to female-to-female transmission efficiency.  Think about this disease anatomically - how likely would it be for straight males or lesbians to get a blood borne illness through sexual activity?

What a ridiculous campaign - HIV is an illness of homosexual men and IV drug users, with a very small minority of straight males and lesbians affected.  Straight women should be concerned in that they may be having sex with a bisexual male who has the disease.  I was VERY HAPPY when I was driving down the street and the HIV propaganda billboard featured a male who looked like a junkie but could also be presumed to be a homosexual male.  That is a realistic victim of the disease - not straight men, and women certainly should not be portrayed as possible candidates to pass on the disease unless the context is related to IV drug use.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: kiwiol on January 13, 2008, 11:42:47 PM
After seeing Nasser's recent pictures one can only wonder which bodybuilders have AIDS.  His body has shrunk big time and I suspect that his homosexual lifestyle has caught up with him.

So when Team Nasser talks about 'Aggressive growth', they are referring to the HI virus in Nasser's body ???
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: arce377 on January 13, 2008, 11:52:20 PM
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Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: Hedgehog on January 13, 2008, 11:55:00 PM
HIV is a predominantly homosexual disease and the propaganda targeting straight men on my university campus is pretty offensive to me.  Next let's advertise warnings against diabetes to those who patron health food stores.  ::)  The poster on campus said "Do you recognize the face of AIDS?" and had a picture of a woman on it - the least likely sex to transmit the disease.  Female-to-male transmission efficiency of HIV is second lowest only to female-to-female transmission efficiency.  Think about this disease anatomically - how likely would it be for straight males or lesbians to get a blood borne illness through sexual activity?

What a ridiculous campaign - HIV is an illness of homosexual men and IV drug users, with a very small minority of straight males and lesbians affected.  Straight women should be concerned in that they may be having sex with a bisexual male who has the disease.  I was VERY HAPPY when I was driving down the street and the HIV propaganda billboard featured a male who looked like a junkie but could also be presumed to be a homosexual male.  That is a realistic victim of the disease - not straight men, and women certainly should not be portrayed as possible candidates to pass on the disease unless the context is related to IV drug use.

Oh my, you're offensed by some campaign on the campus.

Did they place the posters too high or something? ::)

Seriously though Matt C, the only problem with those campaigns, are that they are misdirected, and don't focus on the STD's that are a matter for you and all your honeyz.

BTW, going on the Spring Break this year Matty C?

Or won't the cool kids let you in on it? 8)

Go and raise hell FFS.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: timfogarty on January 14, 2008, 12:18:26 AM
How old are you again Matt?  Obviously not as old as I thought.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: Dtank76 on January 14, 2008, 12:24:28 AM
nasser's getting that "ferrigno" look to his arms
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: musclecenter on January 14, 2008, 12:46:39 AM
http://www.gulf-times.com/site/topics/article.asp?cu_no=2&item_no=195620&version=1&template_id=40&parent_id=22 (http://www.gulf-times.com/site/topics/article.asp?cu_no=2&item_no=195620&version=1&template_id=40&parent_id=22)
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: Trev on January 14, 2008, 12:50:07 AM
Just proof that Nasser was 80% drugs - Can't hold any size without them!
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: The_Hammer on January 14, 2008, 12:53:38 AM
For musclecenter:

HIV-positive bodybuilder to compete for Mr India
Published:Monday, 14 January, 2008, 05:40 AM Doha Time
 
IMPHAL: Khundrakpam Pradipkumar from the northeastern state of Manipur is no ordinary bodybuilder. A person who gave up hope of surviving after he was declared HIV-positive in 2000, 37-year-old Pradipkumar took to bodybuilding as a passion a year after contracting the virus that causes Aids.
Last month, Pradipkumar became a household name in the northeast by winning the coveted title of Mr Manipur in the 60kg category.
“A person living with HIV is no different from those who are not positive. I want people living with HIV to think positive and come out and do things like any other person,” Pradipkumar said.
Today this genial bodybuilder is all set to compete for the prestigious Mr India title to be held on March 20 at Meerut in Uttar Pradesh.
“I know I have a long way to go, but the support shown by the people of Manipur has led me to believe that I have the determination to achieve my goal,” Pradipkumar said as he prepared to undergo a rigorous round of training at a local gym.
“As of now I practise for about six hours daily, but I shall have to increase my exercise schedule as the competition draws nearer,” he said.
In 2006, Pradipkumar was the runner-up in the Mr Manipur contest. But his zeal to make it big despite being HIV-positive helped him win the title last year.
Several social organisations and groups working to provide care and support to people living with HIV/Aids in Manipur felicitated him after he was crowned Mr Manipur.
“Pradipkumar is turning to be a role model for hundreds of people living with HIV/Aids. His courage, determination and strong willpower to achieve something in life should be emulated by all,” said a member of the Manipur Network of Positive People.
To maintain his physique, Pradipkumar eats 20 eggs and drinks 10 litres of milk daily. But financial constraints have forced him to cut down on the diet that he requires.
“Some groups are now coming forward to help me and I am grateful for their support and love,” Pradipkumar said.
India is home to 2.5mn Aids patients, including 80,000 children below 14 years.
The northeastern region, home to about 40mn people, is considered one of the country’s high-risk zones with close to 40,000 people infected with HIV.
Authorities in the northeast fear the disease may further spread because of the region’s acute drug problem.
India’s northeast lies on the edge of the heroin-producing ‘Golden Triangle’ of Laos, Myanmar and Thailand and independent estimates have put the number of regular intravenous drug users in the region at up to 300,000 - a key cause of HIV infection here.
Manipur is the worst hit by HIV/Aids with nearly 28,000 living with the virus.
A large number of people living with HIV in the northeast are struggling for survival with hundreds dying for want of treatment.-IANS
 

Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: LatsMcGee on January 14, 2008, 12:59:20 AM
The cocktail is supposed to be anabolic.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: Samourai Pizzacat on January 14, 2008, 01:14:35 AM
HIV is a predominantly homosexual disease and the propaganda targeting straight men on my university campus is pretty offensive to me.  Next let's advertise warnings against diabetes to those who patron health food stores.  ::)  The poster on campus said "Do you recognize the face of AIDS?" and had a picture of a woman on it - the least likely sex to transmit the disease.  Female-to-male transmission efficiency of HIV is second lowest only to female-to-female transmission efficiency.  Think about this disease anatomically - how likely would it be for straight males or lesbians to get a blood borne illness through sexual activity?

What a ridiculous campaign - HIV is an illness of homosexual men and IV drug users, with a very small minority of straight males and lesbians affected.  Straight women should be concerned in that they may be having sex with a bisexual male who has the disease.  I was VERY HAPPY when I was driving down the street and the HIV propaganda billboard featured a male who looked like a junkie but could also be presumed to be a homosexual male.  That is a realistic victim of the disease - not straight men, and women certainly should not be portrayed as possible candidates to pass on the disease unless the context is related to IV drug use.


whoouzaa! this struck a cord!

HIV/aids is increasing rapidly among heterosexuals, reasons are nonchalance in regards to safe sex. campagne IS needed! and safe sex.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: FinnPilot on January 14, 2008, 01:32:31 AM
HIV is a predominantly homosexual disease and the propaganda targeting straight men on my university campus is pretty offensive to me.  Next let's advertise warnings against diabetes to those who patron health food stores.  ::)  The poster on campus said "Do you recognize the face of AIDS?" and had a picture of a woman on it - the least likely sex to transmit the disease.  Female-to-male transmission efficiency of HIV is second lowest only to female-to-female transmission efficiency.  Think about this disease anatomically - how likely would it be for straight males or lesbians to get a blood borne illness through sexual activity?

What a ridiculous campaign - HIV is an illness of homosexual men and IV drug users, with a very small minority of straight males and lesbians affected.  Straight women should be concerned in that they may be having sex with a bisexual male who has the disease.  I was VERY HAPPY when I was driving down the street and the HIV propaganda billboard featured a male who looked like a junkie but could also be presumed to be a homosexual male.  That is a realistic victim of the disease - not straight men, and women certainly should not be portrayed as possible candidates to pass on the disease unless the context is related to IV drug use.

We just recently had a case in Finland where a married guy had sex with dozens of women, knowing very well he was carrying HIV. There were quite many of those females that were infected. But i guess you're right, it's almost impossible for straight people to get that disease ::)
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: Mad Nickels on January 14, 2008, 02:27:05 AM
AIDS is somehing that homos and junkies get.  whens the last time you heard of someone straight dying of aids?  I thought so.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: HTexan on January 14, 2008, 02:46:56 AM
magic got it? ;D he is not gay......
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: FinnPilot on January 14, 2008, 02:47:41 AM
AIDS is somehing that homos and junkies get.  whens the last time you heard of someone straight dying of aids?  I thought so.

You monkeys are funny.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: muscularny on January 14, 2008, 02:56:08 AM
magic got it? ;D he is not gay......
guess thats why they call him magic
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: muscularny on January 14, 2008, 02:57:20 AM
HIV is a predominantly homosexual disease and the propaganda targeting straight men on my university campus is pretty offensive to me.  Next let's advertise warnings against diabetes to those who patron health food stores.  ::)  The poster on campus said "Do you recognize the face of AIDS?" and had a picture of a woman on it - the least likely sex to transmit the disease.  Female-to-male transmission efficiency of HIV is second lowest only to female-to-female transmission efficiency.  Think about this disease anatomically - how likely would it be for straight males or lesbians to get a blood borne illness through sexual activity?

What a ridiculous campaign - HIV is an illness of homosexual men and IV drug users, with a very small minority of straight males and lesbians affected.  Straight women should be concerned in that they may be having sex with a bisexual male who has the disease.  I was VERY HAPPY when I was driving down the street and the HIV propaganda billboard featured a male who looked like a junkie but could also be presumed to be a homosexual male.  That is a realistic victim of the disease - not straight men, and women certainly should not be portrayed as possible candidates to pass on the disease unless the context is related to IV drug use.
in addition they claim even if you are gay only if you cum inside or whatever you can get it

the other reply is right more talk about std rather then hiv for straight
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: FinnPilot on January 14, 2008, 03:01:08 AM
AIDS is somehing that homos and junkies get.  whens the last time you heard of someone straight dying of aids?  I thought so.

Wasn't Eric Wright straight? Thinking about it, maybe we should say that AIDS is something that homos, junkies, and straight black men get. Agreed? :)
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: HTexan on January 14, 2008, 03:01:41 AM
guess thats why they call him magic

True....
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: Arkadius on January 14, 2008, 03:05:05 AM
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Just proof that Nasser was 80% drugs - Can't hold any size without them!
90% of pro-bodybuilders are all drugs, look at Prince,Levrone,Ray, Dillet...........,Melvin when he is off,just saw Duvall in Jays new video looks like a cancer patient,and Paul brothers ;D ;D i have friends who lift weights for fun and never touched even  protein and they look bigger than them........
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: KillerMonk on January 14, 2008, 03:34:12 AM
HIV is a predominantly homosexual disease and the propaganda targeting straight men on my university campus is pretty offensive to me.  Next let's advertise warnings against diabetes to those who patron health food stores.  ::)  The poster on campus said "Do you recognize the face of AIDS?" and had a picture of a woman on it - the least likely sex to transmit the disease.  Female-to-male transmission efficiency of HIV is second lowest only to female-to-female transmission efficiency.  Think about this disease anatomically - how likely would it be for straight males or lesbians to get a blood borne illness through sexual activity?

What a ridiculous campaign - HIV is an illness of homosexual men and IV drug users, with a very small minority of straight males and lesbians affected.  Straight women should be concerned in that they may be having sex with a bisexual male who has the disease.  I was VERY HAPPY when I was driving down the street and the HIV propaganda billboard featured a male who looked like a junkie but could also be presumed to be a homosexual male.  That is a realistic victim of the disease - not straight men, and women certainly should not be portrayed as possible candidates to pass on the disease unless the context is related to IV drug use.
I do not think you understand how many Bi-Sexual men out there who have unprotected sex with either female or males especially with Meth and Homosexuals practicing non safe sex,HIV is more common than you think,Having unprotected sex with a girl is stupidity you leave yourself open to HIV, STDs, Pregnancy.

Me and my girl practiced safe sex until we got serious and we both got tested.

There is a IV drug user in the apartment building of my Fathers complex one day this scum threatened my father who is elderly, i put this piece of scum in a chokehold then headplanted him into a wall, blood every where, i then panicked as this guy had white patches all over his body in my mind he was infected i took a step back and stopped the aggression, i was shit scared he come at me in a bloody mess fortunatly he got the message but i have never been that shitscared in my life, he has different girls in his apartment everyweek supplying heroin for sex.

The Police were called by an onlooker and i was expecting to be charged but instead he did not press charges and the police knowing his background without saying it congratulated me,They keep busting him for possesion but cannot nail him.

How would you like to have sex with one of the women hes been with ???
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: muscularny on January 14, 2008, 03:44:50 AM
I do not think you understand how many Bi-Sexual men out there who have unprotected sex with either female or males especially with Meth and Homosexuals practicing non safe sex,HIV is more common than you think,Having unprotected sex with a girl is stupidity you leave yourself open to HIV, STDs, Pregnancy.

Me and my girl practiced safe sex until we got serious and we both got tested.

There is a IV drug user in the apartment building of my Fathers complex one day this scum threatened my father who is elderly, i put this piece of scum in a chokehold then headplanted him into a wall, blood every where, i then panicked as this guy had white patches all over his body in my mind he was infected i took a step back and stopped the aggression, i was shit scared he come at me in a bloody mess fortunatly he got the message but i have never been that shitscared in my life, he has different girls in his apartment everyweek supplying heroin for sex.

The Police were called by an onlooker and i was expecting to be charged but instead he did not press charges and the police knowing his background without saying it congratulated me,They keep busting him for possesion but cannot nail him.

How would you like to have sex with one of the women hes been with ???

props to you for having safe sex but you are a rare case (if you are even telling the truth) everyone bullshits about how they use condoms blah blah, if thats the case why is herpes and hpv cases growing non stop.

ever notice how when you go buy condoms every size every style is always in stock yet try looking for KY and youll see the shelf is almost always emtpy and at least one type will not be in stock, lots of anal in these days i guess.

in most cases even those using condoms use it first few times with a girl then they stop (no testing no nada they simply stop) sometimes right before the guy puts it in the girl asks him "babe are you sure you are clean" and the worst time to get a guy to be honest with you is to ask him a question while his cock is hard and is a half a inch away from entering your pussy.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: KillerMonk on January 14, 2008, 03:52:20 AM
props to you for having safe sex but you are a rare case (if you are even telling the truth) everyone bullshits about how they use condoms blah blah, if thats the case why is herpes and hpv cases growing non stop.

ever notice how when you go buy condoms every size every style is always in stock yet try looking for KY and youll see the shelf is almost always emtpy and at least one type will not be in stock, lots of anal in these days i guess.

in most cases even those using condoms use it first few times with a girl then they stop (no testing no nada they simply stop) sometimes right before the guy puts it in the girl asks him "babe are you sure you are clean" and the worst time to get a guy to be honest with you is to ask him a question while his cock is hard and is a half a inch away from entering your pussy.
I have only had unprotected sex with my current girlfriend and we got tested for everything,Ive had sex with many Hookers and i can quite honestly say that having a one night stand with some skank from a nightclub is more riskier than with a Hooker and a condom.

The only flaw in my case is that i have gone down on women unprotected.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: muscularny on January 14, 2008, 04:04:06 AM
I have only had unprotected sex with my current girlfriend and we got tested for everything,Ive had sex with many Hookers and i can quite honestly say that having a one night stand with some skank from a nightclub is more riskier than with a Hooker and a condom.

The only flaw in my case is that i have gone down on women unprotected.
people have to remember that hookers go to nightclubs too and dont tell guys they are hookers

getting tested is great givin both are faithful and 2 people in a relationship long term and being faithful is also rare, I was talking with this girl the other day on webcam shes telling me shes single etc etc, well it seems like she had one of those built in cams on her laptop, she was laying in bed and bamn the laptop slipped and i saw a man asleep next to her

Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: KillerMonk on January 14, 2008, 04:10:47 AM
people have to remember that hookers go to nightclubs too and dont tell guys they are hookers

getting tested is great givin both are faithful and 2 people in a relationship long term and being faithful is also rare, I was talking with this girl the other day on webcam shes telling me shes single etc etc, well it seems like she had one of those built in cams on her laptop, she was laying in bed and bamn the laptop slipped and i saw a man asleep next to her


That must have been a Trip ;D
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: muscularny on January 14, 2008, 04:24:31 AM
That must have been a Trip ;D
i asked her who the heck is that she signed off never to be seen online since or she blocked me or whatever

Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: D-bol on January 14, 2008, 04:32:18 AM
HIV is a predominantly homosexual disease and the propaganda targeting straight men on my university campus is pretty offensive to me.  Next let's advertise warnings against diabetes to those who patron health food stores.  ::)  The poster on campus said "Do you recognize the face of AIDS?" and had a picture of a woman on it - the least likely sex to transmit the disease.  Female-to-male transmission efficiency of HIV is second lowest only to female-to-female transmission efficiency.  Think about this disease anatomically - how likely would it be for straight males or lesbians to get a blood borne illness through sexual activity?

What a ridiculous campaign - HIV is an illness of homosexual men and IV drug users, with a very small minority of straight males and lesbians affected.  Straight women should be concerned in that they may be having sex with a bisexual male who has the disease.  I was VERY HAPPY when I was driving down the street and the HIV propaganda billboard featured a male who looked like a junkie but could also be presumed to be a homosexual male.  That is a realistic victim of the disease - not straight men, and women certainly should not be portrayed as possible candidates to pass on the disease unless the context is related to IV drug use.

moron...
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: Playboy on January 14, 2008, 04:38:23 AM
You cannot expect people to train hard and heavy with high amounts of gas their whole life. Common sense.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: dr.chimps on January 14, 2008, 04:54:41 AM
HIV is a predominantly homosexual disease and the propaganda targeting straight men on my university campus is pretty offensive to me.  Next let's advertise warnings against diabetes to those who patron health food stores.  ::)  The poster on campus said "Do you recognize the face of AIDS?" and had a picture of a woman on it - the least likely sex to transmit the disease.  Female-to-male transmission efficiency of HIV is second lowest only to female-to-female transmission efficiency.  Think about this disease anatomically - how likely would it be for straight males or lesbians to get a blood borne illness through sexual activity?

What a ridiculous campaign - HIV is an illness of homosexual men and IV drug users, with a very small minority of straight males and lesbians affected.  Straight women should be concerned in that they may be having sex with a bisexual male who has the disease.  I was VERY HAPPY when I was driving down the street and the HIV propaganda billboard featured a male who looked like a junkie but could also be presumed to be a homosexual male.  That is a realistic victim of the disease - not straight men, and women certainly should not be portrayed as possible candidates to pass on the disease unless the context is related to IV drug use.
Epic ignorance. I have no idea where you pulled this from, but I can guess. The AIDS transmission vectors are indeed significantly weighted towards the heterosexual. In Asia and Africa, where women have diminished societal control/roles, it is sadly even higher.   
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: bigdumbbell on January 14, 2008, 05:04:17 AM
HIV is a predominantly homosexual disease and the propaganda targeting straight men on my university campus is pretty offensive to me.  Next let's advertise warnings against diabetes to those who patron health food stores.  ::)  The poster on campus said "Do you recognize the face of AIDS?" and had a picture of a woman on it - the least likely sex to transmit the disease.  Female-to-male transmission efficiency of HIV is second lowest only to female-to-female transmission efficiency.  Think about this disease anatomically - how likely would it be for straight males or lesbians to get a blood borne illness through sexual activity?

What a ridiculous campaign - HIV is an illness of homosexual men and IV drug users, with a very small minority of straight males and lesbians affected.  Straight women should be concerned in that they may be having sex with a bisexual male who has the disease.  I was VERY HAPPY when I was driving down the street and the HIV propaganda billboard featured a male who looked like a junkie but could also be presumed to be a homosexual male.  That is a realistic victim of the disease - not straight men, and women certainly should not be portrayed as possible candidates to pass on the disease unless the context is related to IV drug use.
YOU are an illness
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: Matt C on January 14, 2008, 05:19:49 AM
moron...

Just as I suspected, a series of ad hominem attacks and no rebuttals to the comments I pointed out, as usual.  I find that the higher the IQ of the member, the less likely they are to be offended by my posts.  True story!  ;D  Sorry if I offended your delicate sensibility with facts.  :P  Here are some more:

http://userwww.service.emory.edu/~afranc5/Economics_of_Sexuality.pdf

Page 39.

The per-contact probability of HIV transmission is 0.02% for vaginal insertive sex. This means I would have to have sex with 5000 women with HIV before the odds of me getting it strike, or have sex with one woman with HIV 5000 times.

WITH HIV!  LOL.  And there is propaganda targeted towards my demographic?  How mathematically sound is that propaganda?

Compare that to anal-receptive sex where the odds are 0.8%, or one in 125 (40 times the risk). Now let's also use some common sense other than strict science and point out that anal sex is more predominant in the gay community in part due to the lack of pregnancy. Also, the overwhelming majority of the 58,000 people today with HIV are homosexual men or drug users. Straight men are a very small part of this picture.

Don't believe me?  Not that facts are debatable or anything, but here is another link anyway:

Baeten JM, Richardson BA, Lavreys L, et al. Female-to-male infectivity of HIV-1 among circumcised and uncircumcised Kenyan men. J Infect Dis. 2005;191:546-553.

Also, men get HIV more often in Africa due to existence of other diseases and compromised immune systems.  The facts above hold for men with healthy immune systems.

I don't see the point of a system where 88% of the propaganda seems aimed at a group which comprises 12% of the disease carrying population in North America.

http://www.whatisaids.com/wwwboard/messages/368.html

"But the politically incorrect truth is rarely spoken out loud: The dreaded heterosexual epidemic never happened."

"Female to male transmission is very inefficient, says Dr. Nancy Padian a professor in the department of obstetrics, gynecology and reproductive science at the University of California, San Francisco and the author of a 1996 10 year study of HIV infected heterosexual couples, the nation's longest and largest. She points out that "it's two to three times easier for men to infect women." But even so, if there are no other risk factors involved, the rate at which an infected man will transmit the virus to a woman is one in 1,100 sex acts."


All scientific papers I've read on the topic indicate the odds range from 1 in 300 to 1 in 5000 for a male getting HIV from a woman who is infected, and I've read plenty.  Very low no matter how you cut it.

Any rebuttals, post them here and I will rip them piece-by-piece with logic and science.

I am concerned about other STDs - mainly bacterial ones like chlamydia and gonorrhea.

And by the way, it's not that I get extremely angry at HIV propaganda, but as a critical thinking person, it is offensive and promotes ignorance to me.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: Tapeworm on January 14, 2008, 05:27:36 AM
The syphilis is taking it's toll now Matt.  :D
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: KillerMonk on January 14, 2008, 05:31:00 AM
So that means 200 Heterosexual men and women get HIV in 1 million one night stands.

What about the company you keep,Do you know which men are bisexual and what women they have been with.

Are these stats supplied by the Catholic Church they seem very suspect.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: Matt C on January 14, 2008, 05:36:00 AM
We just recently had a case in Finland where a married guy had sex with dozens of women, knowing very well he was carrying HIV. There were quite many of those females that were infected. But i guess you're right, it's almost impossible for straight people males to get that disease ::)

Fixed.

And yeah, that's correct.  Straight males do have risks to deal with in life though - like getting struck by lighting, or getting hit by a car, or drowning in a pool.  :P  Thank you for pointing that out to the board.

AIDS is somehing that homos and junkies get.  whens the last time you heard of someone straight dying of aids?  I thought so.

Totally politically incorrect.  >:(

But absolutely true, so nothing I will complain about.

PS - if you want to bash the tone of my posts, fine, but don't bash the science behind them.

So that means 200 Heterosexual men and women get HIV in 1 million one night stands.

What about the company you keep,Do you know which men are bisexual and what women they have been with.

Are these stats supplied by the Catholic Church they seem very suspect.

I cannot know which women have HIV, but even if all the women I know have HIV, the odds of me contracting it are still extremely low, and not something logically worth my time to even really think about.  That would be as irrational as worrying about being hit by lightning or some other equally unlikely event.  As I said, I am concerned about bacterial STDs, since they are actually common.

Don't take the facts from me - research them in peer reviewed scientific journals and confirm them.  :)
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: KillerMonk on January 14, 2008, 06:43:36 AM
Matt c i buy you a ticket to Uganda and ill pay for the prostitutes you will probaly only have to fuck a hundred you should be safe ;D
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: Matt C on January 14, 2008, 06:51:27 AM
Matt c i buy you a ticket to Uganda and ill pay for the prostitutes you will probaly only have to fuck a hundred you should be safe ;D

Perhaps, but remember that the main reason HIV is more predominant in males in countries such a Uganda is due to compromised immune function.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: Mad Nickels on January 14, 2008, 06:54:52 AM
Perhaps, but remember that the main reason HIV is more predominant in males in countries such a Uganda is due to compromised immune function.

are you saying uguandans don't see the importance of daily vitamin C and E supplementation?
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: Matt C on January 14, 2008, 06:58:12 AM
are you saying uguandans don't see the importance of daily vitamin C and E supplementation?

I'm sure they would see the importance of it if they could afford it.  :-\
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: Swedish Viking on January 14, 2008, 07:09:38 AM
    Although I don't agree with his delivery, the spirit of Matt's message is right when it comes to this.  He's also right in assuming that no one was going to post actual information countering his.  HIV is a predominately homosexual, syringe drug user, female virus.  The liklihood of a man getting it through heterosexual vaginal intercourse is slim to almost none.  Right now everyone is on this "sterilyze everything, kill everything with antibiotics, and test yourself for every disease concievable every two seconds as the minimum requirement to be considered a responsible human being" kick...and it's not necessary, efficient, economical, AND DEFINITELY NOT HEALTHY.  
    Another thing, very many heterosexual males get it(like so many others) through different avenuees: Few people have HIV, but millions upon millions have herpes-which is an open sore.  In all liklihood, the guys you hear about like Magic who probably slept with hundreds if not thousands of women didn't get it through regular vaginal intercouse.  It's almost impossible that he doens't have herpes, having slept with that many women; and it's likely also that with that many women, he ran into a few with HIV during an outbreak.  He could also have been having anal sex, which changes the whole ball game.  
   This whole HIV/AIDS scare has been blown way out of proportion.  And on top of that, now that the virus has turned 25, there are actually a good number of groups of people popping up who are not following the traditional HIV=AIDS=Death paradigm-like the Kenyan prostitutes and small pockets of people living in the States off meds and living exceptionally clean lives.  I've heard that The Other Side of Aids is a good documentary, and I know that Dr. Duesberg(prof. at UCLA) has done some great, but controversial work.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: Palpatine Q on January 14, 2008, 07:30:49 AM
Also factor in that HIV cannot survive in Saliva, kills it instantly. so even those closet homos hitting the glory holes for blowjobs aren't at that much risk.  HIV is transmitted two ways, letting someone cum in your asshole or IV use.  LIke Matt C. said, why aren't we all dropping like flies? HIV has been around for over 25 years now. The reason it's such a big deal in the first place is that it hit the New York City gay community hard, and a lot of those fairies are in positions of power in the media, hence the  uproar
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: m8 on January 14, 2008, 07:32:14 AM
(http://img357.imageshack.us/img357/3835/assis1ou.jpg)
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: muscularny on January 14, 2008, 08:10:50 AM
Also factor in that HIV cannot survive in Saliva, kills it instantly. so even those closet homos hitting the glory holes for blowjobs aren't at that much risk.  HIV is transmitted two ways, letting someone cum in your asshole or IV use.  LIke Matt C. said, why aren't we all dropping like flies? HIV has been around for over 25 years now. The reason it's such a big deal in the first place is that it hit the New York City gay community hard, and a lot of those fairies are in positions of power in the media, hence the  uproar
so gay men or say women who have anal sex and their partner dont cum in their asshole cannot get HIV? What about the guy doing the fucking? Are you saying gay men with HIV are only the guys catching not the pitcher?

Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: muscularny on January 14, 2008, 08:11:34 AM
Also can it be that guys with bigger penises are more likly to get HIV since they far more deeper inside?
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: muscularny on January 14, 2008, 08:13:54 AM
and a link to the story of the porn start who has been doing porn for just 3 months and got HIV

http://www.slumdance.com/blogs/brian_flemming/archives/000873.html
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: Palpatine Q on January 14, 2008, 08:21:45 AM
and a link to the story of the porn start who has been doing porn for just 3 months and got HIV

http://www.slumdance.com/blogs/brian_flemming/archives/000873.html

That kinda backs up what I'm saying, no?

Personally, If you are getting anally DP'ed bareback by two complete strangers, you get what you deserve
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: KillerMonk on January 14, 2008, 08:23:33 AM
so gay men or say women who have anal sex and their partner dont cum in their asshole cannot get HIV? What about the guy doing the fucking? Are you saying gay men with HIV are only the guys catching not the pitcher?


Afreind of a freind i met in 1988 was gay all his freinds around him were dying from Aids,He only did oral no backdoor action and was spared the virus, it was a very sad situation in the 80s, just look at South Africa and the Aids epedemic there Hetrosexuals being infected by the thousands everyday.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: dario73 on January 14, 2008, 09:03:45 AM
AIDS is somehing that homos and junkies get.  whens the last time you heard of someone straight dying of aids?  I thought so.

Eazy-E, Arthur Ashe, Ray Sharkey, and Hector Lavoe.

I am pretty sure there has to be quiete a few straight porn actors that have contracted AIDS and died from the disease. 
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: Mad Nickels on January 14, 2008, 09:07:12 AM
Eazy-E, Arthur Ashe, Ray Sharkey, and Hector Lavoe.

they were all closet boofers, I think we all know it.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: dario73 on January 14, 2008, 09:42:33 AM
they were all closet boofers, I think we all know it.

You are incorrect. They got more putang (and only putang) then you could ever dream of.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: onlyme on January 14, 2008, 10:25:04 AM
Not a bodybuilder but pretends to be ;D
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: Samourai Pizzacat on January 14, 2008, 11:01:09 AM
Matt C is simply forgetting the spiking incidence rates, by claiming it's easier to attract HIV as woman or via needles.

facts are that in the netherlands HIV is on the rise, bigtime, the fact that it's an even steeper increase among gay men, doesn't diminish the  HIV problem among heterosexuals. Campaigns are important for both groups.

and btw Matt, singeling out one 'ad homunum' reply and cry wolf while you ignore sensible replies isn't exactly proper debating ettiquette. 
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: Mad Nickels on January 14, 2008, 11:03:20 AM
Not a bodybuilder but pretends to be ;D

onlymen,

you weigh 400 pounds, and you're at least 30% bodyfat.

the fact that you choose to rip on athletic people, when you're carrying 150 pounds of bodyfat, is frightening.   
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: warrior_code on January 14, 2008, 11:08:33 AM


Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: timfogarty on January 14, 2008, 11:13:25 AM
Getting back to the title of the thread, there are many competition bodybuilders with HIV.   While taking all those meds every day is no fun, for many HIV is a manageable disease.    I have many friends who have been HIV positive for over 20 years, and are doing fine.   

I'd be willing to bet that at a competition like the NPC Nationals or USAs, where there are hundreds of competitors, at least a dozen of them are HIV positive.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: warrior_code on January 14, 2008, 11:17:56 AM
Getting back to the title of the thread, there are many competition bodybuilders with HIV.   While taking all those meds every day is no fun, for many HIV is a manageable disease.    I have many friends who have been HIV positive for over 20 years, and are doing fine.   

I'd be willing to bet that at a competition like the NPC Nationals or USAs, where there are hundreds of competitors, at least a dozen of them are HIV positive.

HIV drugs are quite a break through.  It is unfortunte that they are not as effective as we hoped they would be.  Many strains are resistant to them.  Here is another video that explains. 

Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: Mad Nickels on January 14, 2008, 11:23:28 AM
I found this clip on HIV to be remarkably informative.

Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: bigbalddaddy on January 14, 2008, 11:52:29 AM
After seeing Nasser's recent pictures one can only wonder which bodybuilders have AIDS.  His body has shrunk big time and I suspect that his homosexual lifestyle has caught up with him.

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=194644.0;attach=226908;image)

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=194644.0;attach=226921;image)



Those pics can't be real...
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: Matt C on January 14, 2008, 12:02:54 PM
I apologize for my tone.  I am normally a huge advocate of Dale Carnegie's rules in "How to Win Friends & Influence People", but every now and then I find it useless to even follow those guidelines (debating a young earth creationist for example, which is impossible no matter how nice you are).  Link to the book:

http://www.amazon.com/How-Win-Friends-Influence-People/dp/0671723650

When I know I'm trying to debate controversial topics and people will just mock whatever I say anyway, I'm tempted to just be a jerk.  It never happened here until recently.  Controversial topic: recycling is bullshit, but I can prove that to you.

I guess the point is, the people who are on your side will be on your side regardless of your tone - but to sway the people on the other side, or on the middle of the fence, it's better to follow Carnegie's numerous approaches, which I usually do.

PS - here is a link to the documentary that Groink pointed out!

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-266890172132861595

Getting back to the title of the thread, there are many competition bodybuilders with HIV.   While taking all those meds every day is no fun, for many HIV is a manageable disease.    I have many friends who have been HIV positive for over 20 years, and are doing fine.   

I'd be willing to bet that at a competition like the NPC Nationals or USAs, where there are hundreds of competitors, at least a dozen of them are HIV positive.

Exactly - it is a very manageable disease.  I am not sure if comparing it to diabetes would be accurate, but they both are quite manageable (albeit on different levels).
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: timfogarty on January 14, 2008, 12:48:13 PM
When I know I'm trying to debate controversial topics and people will just mock whatever I say anyway, I'm tempted to just be a jerk

You expressed that you were offended by a billboard campaign that showed an average looking woman with the caption "Do you recognize the face of AIDS?"     A major cause of the world's problems is that we like to divide the world into "them" vs "us".  It is easy to dismiss other people's problems when you see them as a "them".  It is easy to start wars with people when you see them as a "them".   It is harder to do when you see them as part of "us". 

Regarding HIV and AIDS, you've decided what is a "them" and you are offended that the billboard is showing an example that doesn't fit your definition.  The ad campaign was accurate.  There are many people who don't fit your definition of who has HIV.   I'm sure someone you know has HIV and just hasn't shared it with you.

While the rate of transmission for some specific act may be 1 in 2000, you can still be infected the very first time.   And there are many other diseases that are transmitted via unprotected sex, some are incurable and can lead to death, such as Hep-C.     Anything that makes you re-access the risk before you act is not a bad thing.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: 240 is Back on January 14, 2008, 12:52:52 PM
lol... there are like 3 people on my street who recycle.

They have this giant truck drive down the street, manned by 3 people (hourly employees) who collect the contents of the blue buckets.  Then it goes to a recyc facility with who knows what costs...

Does saving this material offset the environmental damage and taxpayer cost of the 3 workers and their very large recycling truck?
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: 240 is Back on January 14, 2008, 12:54:30 PM
You expressed that you were offended by a billboard campaign that showed an average looking woman with the caption "Do you recognize the face of AIDS?"     A major cause of the world's problems is that we like to divide the world into "them" vs "us".  It is easy to dismiss other people's problems when you see them as a "them".  It is easy to start wars with people when you see them as a "them".   It is harder to do when you see them as part of "us". 

Regarding HIV and AIDS, you've decided what is a "them" and you are offended that the billboard is showing an example that doesn't fit your definition.  The ad campaign was accurate.  There are many people who don't fit your definition of who has HIV.   I'm sure someone you know has HIV and just hasn't shared it with you.

While the rate of transmission for some specific act may be 1 in 2000, you can still be infected the very first time.   And there are many other diseases that are transmitted via unprotected sex, some are incurable and can lead to death, such as Hep-C.     Anything that makes you re-access the risk before you act is not a bad thing.

yeah, if I were ever to become single again, I'd require all the girls I get to just stop at the clinic on the way to our date, and bring their results with them.  Many girls today are whores.  And guys are much bigger whores.  And the internet has allowed whores to mingle more easily.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: Your MAAAAaaaa on January 14, 2008, 12:58:39 PM

whoouzaa! this struck a cord!

HIV/aids is increasing rapidly among heterosexuals, reasons are nonchalance in regards to safe sex. campagne IS needed! and safe sex.

Exactly, I don't know why Matt C Melted so badly about this, any thoughts?


Maybe his father has Bad Aids (Gay sex induced) rather than good AIDS (Drugs etc) and he is tetchy


ta ta
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: bigdumbbell on January 14, 2008, 04:14:35 PM
   Although I don't agree with his delivery, the spirit of Matt's message is right when it comes to this.  He's also right in assuming that no one was going to post actual information countering his.  HIV is a predominately homosexual, syringe drug user, female virus.  The liklihood of a man getting it through heterosexual vaginal intercourse is slim to almost none.  Right now everyone is on this "sterilyze everything, kill everything with antibiotics, and test yourself for every disease concievable every two seconds as the minimum requirement to be considered a responsible human being" kick...and it's not necessary, efficient, economical, AND DEFINITELY NOT HEALTHY.  
    Another thing, very many heterosexual males get it(like so many others) through different avenuees: Few people have HIV, but millions upon millions have herpes-which is an open sore.  In all liklihood, the guys you hear about like Magic who probably slept with hundreds if not thousands of women didn't get it through regular vaginal intercouse.  It's almost impossible that he doens't have herpes, having slept with that many women; and it's likely also that with that many women, he ran into a few with HIV during an outbreak.  He could also have been having anal sex, which changes the whole ball game.  
   This whole HIV/AIDS scare has been blown way out of proportion.  And on top of that, now that the virus has turned 25, there are actually a good number of groups of people popping up who are not following the traditional HIV=AIDS=Death paradigm-like the Kenyan prostitutes and small pockets of people living in the States off meds and living exceptionally clean lives.  I've heard that The Other Side of Aids is a good documentary, and I know that Dr. Duesberg(prof. at UCLA) has done some great, but controversial work.
r u saying HIV in africa are homosexual, syringe drug user and female?  how many aids cases in all of africa now?
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: timfogarty on January 14, 2008, 04:38:41 PM
I've heard that The Other Side of Aids is a good documentary, and I know that Dr. Duesberg(prof. at UCLA) has done some great, but controversial work.

first, Duseberg is at UC Berkeley, not UCLA.  second, his views about AIDS, that "the various AIDS epidemics of the US, Europe and Africa have chemical bases, namely toxic, recreational drugs, DNA-chain terminators prescribed as anti-HIV drugs and malnutrition", are not accepted by the scientific and medical community.  there is plenty of evidence that HIV causes AIDS, and that people who take anti-HIV meds have lower viral loads in their bloodstream and stay healthy longer.  and third, he has long since moved onto other topics, now specializing in carcinogenesis.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: Sarcastic Deity on January 14, 2008, 04:46:57 PM
To maintain his physique, Pradipkumar eats 20 eggs and drinks 10 litres of milk daily.

2.5 to 3 gallons of milk every day?
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: Sarcastic Deity on January 14, 2008, 04:49:50 PM
Does saving this material offset the environmental damage and taxpayer cost of the 3 workers and their very large recycling truck?

if everyone did their fucking part and recycled it'd be a no-brainer  ::)
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: Camel Jockey on January 14, 2008, 04:54:22 PM
Tom Prince looks an aids patient these days.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: Matt C on January 14, 2008, 05:43:15 PM
You expressed that you were offended by a billboard campaign that showed an average looking woman with the caption "Do you recognize the face of AIDS?"     A major cause of the world's problems is that we like to divide the world into "them" vs "us".  It is easy to dismiss other people's problems when you see them as a "them".  It is easy to start wars with people when you see them as a "them".   It is harder to do when you see them as part of "us". 

Regarding HIV and AIDS, you've decided what is a "them" and you are offended that the billboard is showing an example that doesn't fit your definition.  The ad campaign was accurate.  There are many people who don't fit your definition of who has HIV.   I'm sure someone you know has HIV and just hasn't shared it with you.

While the rate of transmission for some specific act may be 1 in 2000, you can still be infected the very first time.   And there are many other diseases that are transmitted via unprotected sex, some are incurable and can lead to death, such as Hep-C.     Anything that makes you re-access the risk before you act is not a bad thing.

Yes, this is all correct.  More specifically, my problem is that virtually all of the propaganda I've seen seems to be directed towards heterosexuals, or at the very least, is non-specific.  In my opinion, it is more efficient, economical, and in the interest of public health to target the demographics most affected by illness.  Safe sex is always a good idea, although most STDs which a heterosexual male has the greatest chance of contracting through vaginal sex are curable.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: Sarcastic Deity on January 14, 2008, 06:06:06 PM
i can only figure one reason: it's because they're trying to incite a sympathetic response.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: timfogarty on January 14, 2008, 06:16:29 PM
Safe sex is always a good idea, although most STDs which a heterosexual male has the greatest chance of contracting through vaginal sex are curable.

Hep-C, herpes, and HPV are not.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: Mad Nickels on January 14, 2008, 06:51:07 PM
Hep-C, herpes, and HPV are not.


whatever
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: Matt C on January 14, 2008, 07:07:46 PM
Hep-C, herpes, and HPV are not.

Yes, but ultimately the most likely sexual transmitted infections for a heterosexual male are bacterial in nature.  The odds for the ones you mentioned, while higher than HIV, are not the almost guarantee bacterial STIs are.  I am concerned about about chlamydia and gonorrhea and as well as herpes et al., to have safe sex, but I am not particularly concerned about HIV, although I do acknowledge it is a possibility, but not a likely one in my mind.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on January 14, 2008, 07:18:28 PM
Yes, but ultimately the most likely sexual transmitted infections for a heterosexual male are bacterial in nature.  The odds for the ones you mentioned, while higher than HIV, are not the almost guarantee bacterial STIs are.  I am concerned about about chlamydia and gonorrhea and as well as herpes et al., to have safe sex, but I am not particularly concerned about HIV, although I do acknowledge it is a possibility, but not a likely one in my mind.

 ;)
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: Matt C on January 14, 2008, 07:31:23 PM
;)

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=193417.0;attach=224789;image)

LOL!!  Epic attempt to own me while posting a failed link!
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on January 14, 2008, 07:32:26 PM
LOL!!  Epic attempt to own me while posting a failed link!

You own yourself every time you type  ;)
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: Matt C on January 14, 2008, 07:38:37 PM
lol..it's odd, because i'd assumed that matt c himself was gay (seriously, no offense meant).

Sarcastic Deity?  LOL!  We have a relative of ND on here - SD!

I completely understand why people on here would think I am homosexual.  I would likely think it myself if I met someone who possessed the same qualities I have.  But honestly, I think homophobia is so gay!
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: Matt C on January 14, 2008, 08:03:45 PM
No known relation, sorry.  Deity is a common name.

How in the world did you surf across that picture?  ;D

My friend found it (not sure how), and showed it to me because the dude in the picture looks like a mutual friend of ours.  ;D
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: Matt C on January 14, 2008, 08:13:17 PM
so you're not gay, but your friends are?   ::)  ;D



I'm not gay - not sure about all of my friends.  But like I said, I happen to feel that homophobia is so gay!
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: Sarcastic Deity on January 14, 2008, 09:03:43 PM
how about autophobia?
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: Matt C on January 14, 2008, 09:07:43 PM
how about autophobia?

Go to the truce thread.  >:(
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: shiftedShapes on January 14, 2008, 10:40:56 PM
guess thats why they call him magic

LOL
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: D-bol on January 14, 2008, 10:50:25 PM
Just as I suspected, a series of ad hominem attacks and no rebuttals to the comments I pointed out, as usual.  I find that the higher the IQ of the member, the less likely they are to be offended by my posts.  True story!  ;D  Sorry if I offended your delicate sensibility with facts.  :P  Here are some more:

i'm not offended by your post - i'm just stating the fact

btw, the higher the IQ - shorter posts (the smarter u are the less words u need to express yourself)
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: Matt C on January 14, 2008, 10:56:57 PM
i'm not offended by your post - i'm just stating the fact

btw, the higher the IQ - shorter posts (the smarter u are the less words u need to express yourself)


Yes, being concise is certainly a sign of intelligent.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: gordiano on January 14, 2008, 10:59:21 PM
i'm not offended by your post - i'm just stating the fact

btw, the higher the IQ - shorter posts (the smarter u are the less words u need to express yourself)


Me Einstein!
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: Thin Lizzy on January 14, 2008, 11:14:17 PM
LOL!!  Epic attempt to own me while posting a failed link!

You have to understand that you're basically trying to argue people out of their religion. The public has been fed such a steady diet of AIDS bs that they can't possibly fathom that they've been duped.

However, all one has to do is take a look at a more promiscuous subset of the heterosexual population, Pro-athletes and rock stars, to see that the myth of AIDS "exploding" in the straight population is a crock.

If Tommy Lee doesn't have AIDS, no straight man does.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: timfogarty on January 14, 2008, 11:33:19 PM
However, all one has to do is take a look at a more promiscuous subset of the heterosexual population, Pro-athletes and rock stars, and the myth of AIDS "exploding" in the straight population is a crock.

HIV and AIDS have exploded in the straight population, in Brazil, Thailand, and India.  While unlikely, it is still possible for that to happen in the west.    For the individual straight male in the US, the chance of infection is low, but it is not zero. 
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: Thin Lizzy on January 14, 2008, 11:53:27 PM
HIV and AIDS have exploded in the straight population, in Brazil, Thailand, and India.  While unlikely, it is still possible for that to happen in the west.    For the individual straight male in the US, the chance of infection is low, but it is not zero. 

Whenever you about AIDS "exploding" in the straight population, it's always in a country where people are malnourished, Africa being the most obvious example. It's malnutrition and living in unsanitary conditions that's killing these people.

I defy you to name a country with a high standard of living where AIDS has "exploded" into the straight population.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: Matt C on January 15, 2008, 12:12:40 AM
Whenever you about AIDS "exploding" in the straight population, it's always in a country where people are malnourished, Africa being the most obvious example. It's malnutrition and living in unsanitary conditions that's killing these people.

I defy you to name a country with a high standard of living where AIDS has "exploded" into the straight population.

Easy - there are none.  :)  The heterosexual epidemic of AIDS has never happened and never will happen in those countries.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: Swedish Viking on January 15, 2008, 12:46:21 AM
Again, right.  HIV is turning out to be more of a co-factor now like everything usually is-as is evidenced by those breaking the HIV=AIDS=Death mold and the opposite-those dying faster than ever from malnourishment, heavy drug use(perscription or recreational), and downright halfhazard living.
   Whoeever just said that HIV/AIDS is a religion right now is spot on.  I just wish the public that worships what they call science like a religion(which they hate) would actually look at this in a scientific manner-which would mean looking at all the data, instead of just that which is presented to them by the media. 
Here is a great letter from Dr. Rebecca Culshaw, along with the The Other Side of AIDS documentary that Matt posted.  She's a mathmatical biologist that says the current HIV=AIDS=DEATH paradigm is not living up to the actual statistics. 

http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig7/culshaw1.html

ps.  As I said earlier, heterosexual HIV transmission probably has a whole lot more to do with transmission through open sores(ie:Herpes, which is exploding) than penile-vaginal intercourse.

Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: Hugo Chavez on January 15, 2008, 01:18:24 AM
After seeing Nasser's recent pictures one can only wonder which bodybuilders have AIDS.  His body has shrunk big time and I suspect that his homosexual lifestyle has caught up with him.

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=194644.0;attach=226908;image)

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=194644.0;attach=226921;image)


You've just posted what happens when someone stops cycling for a long period of time.  Doesn't mean they have aids.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: LatsMcGee on January 15, 2008, 01:31:27 AM
I thought everyone knew Eazy E got AIDS from Freddie Mercury.  Didn't you guys hear that song by Anal girl about it?
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: D-bol on January 15, 2008, 02:17:57 AM
Whenever you about AIDS "exploding" in the straight population, it's always in a country where people are malnourished, Africa being the most obvious example. It's malnutrition and living in unsanitary conditions that's killing these people.

I defy you to name a country with a high standard of living where AIDS has "exploded" into the straight population.

AIDS in africa is not result of mulnutrition and living conditions, but of lack of proper AIDS prevention measures. Africans traditionally do not use contraceptives and will most often be reluctant to accept them, let alone spend money on them. In addtion, they traditionally have large families of 10-15 children, meaning that infected parents will bare alot of infected kids. I am from Africa and can speak from relatively close experience.

Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: Swedish Viking on January 15, 2008, 02:54:04 AM
You're talking about the transmission of HIV.  They're talking about AIDS, which in many parts of Africa is likely highly relative to mal-nourishment. 
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: Tombo on January 15, 2008, 03:07:57 AM
AIDS in africa is not result of mulnutrition and living conditions, but of lack of proper AIDS prevention measures. Africans traditionally do not use contraceptives and will most often be reluctant to accept them, let alone spend money on them. In addtion, they traditionally have large families of 10-15 children, meaning that infected parents will bare alot of infected kids. I am from Africa and can speak from relatively close experience.



sort of yeah, but they have this deluded (not sure if its religious or just lack of collective intelligence + education) idea that sex with a virgin cures HIV, so rape + HIV = lawl.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: dr.chimps on January 15, 2008, 06:08:51 AM
Yes, being concise is certainly a sign of intelligent.
LOL.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: Pet shop boys on January 15, 2008, 06:34:52 AM
nasser's getting that "ferrigno" look to his arms

So true.


WHOOOSSSSHHHHHHHHHHH
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: io856 on June 10, 2008, 10:29:25 PM
Easy - there are none.  :)  The heterosexual epidemic of AIDS has never happened and never will happen in those countries.
Matt Canning went against the grain in this case and was proven to be correct.

"The United Nations' top AIDS scientists plan to acknowledge this week that they have long overestimated both the size and the course of the epidemic, which they now believe has been slowing for nearly a decade, according to U.N. documents prepared for the announcement."

"There was a tendency toward alarmism, and that fit perhaps a certain fundraising agenda," said Helen Epstein

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/11/19/AR2007111900978.html

Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: Swedish Viking on June 10, 2008, 11:22:24 PM
...as is usually the case.  I'm glad to see so many people in this thread though that are pretty on top of this whole issue-I think that's an indicator that a lot of people are waking up when it comes to health and lifestyle and how it relates to disease. 
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: Matt on January 22, 2021, 05:07:53 PM
Hep-C, herpes, and HPV are not.

I was searching for that thread entitled "Some people don't AIDS well", that included the photo of Johnny Depp with the "FUGLY" hat on, but it looks like it was deleted. And this thread popped up in the search - so BUMP.

Tim: you are full of shit. Shut up! Fuck. One of those diseases is blood-based, and the next two do NOTHING bad to males, and I paid out of pocket in "Free Healthcare Canada" for my HPV shots to spare myself from inoculating women with cervical cance because unlike YOU, who spent the 1980's passing your dick around to men like it was a peace pipe, I actually care about public health, and take RATIONAL and scientific precautions to prevent these things.

87% of all HIV cases comprise homosexual makes and intravenous drug users.  IS THERE A PART OF THIS YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND?

Trying to brainwash straight males from childhood into being afraid of a virus that we will NEVER get, while putting gay men at risk of getting it from taking it up the ass because you don't want to be singled out - you are a fucking ASSHOLE, Tim.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: Matt on January 22, 2021, 05:11:14 PM
I have many friends who have been HIV positive for over 20 years, and are doing fine.

LMAO! No shit, you unscientific moron. Had they met a "homophobic bigot" like me, they would have understood the risks of receiving anal sex from other gay men, and vastly reduced their risk of contracting it to begin with.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: Matt on January 22, 2021, 05:14:49 PM
It is easy to start wars with people when you see them as a "them".   It is harder to do when you see them as part of "us".

Are you a complete fucking retard?
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on January 22, 2021, 05:17:52 PM
LMAO! No shit, you unscientific moron. Had they met a "homophobic bigot" like me, they would have understood the risks of receiving anal sex from other gay men, and vastly reduced their risk of contracting it to begin with.


That post is from 12 years ago and Tim is long gone.  😑
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: AbrahamG on January 22, 2021, 05:20:54 PM
I was searching for that thread with the title "Some people don't AIDS well", with Johnny Depp with the "FUGLY".

Tim: you are full of shit. Shut up! Fuck.

87% of all HIV cases comprise homosexual makes and intravenous drug users.  IS THERE A PART OF THIS YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND?

Trying to brainwash straight males from childhood into being afraid of a virus that we will NEVER get, while putting gay men at risk of getting it from taking it up the ass because you don't want to be singled out - you are a fucking ASSHOLE, Tim.

What in the wild world of sports are you doing spending the last 13 years of your life stewing about a getbig thread.  If prostitution is not locked down in Ontario, let me know and I'll door dash you some pussy for Christ sakes.  :)
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: Matt on January 22, 2021, 05:40:08 PM

That post is from 12 years ago and Tim is long gone.  😑

Nope:

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=profile;u=4131

Anybody miss me?

And he's back on Twitter, and has been for a few tweets, although I didn't check what date he started posting there again.

Wiggs is gone. The difference [for me] is, I miss Wiggs.

Tim tries to hide his hatred of White straight males through his allegiance to social justice. And he's just factually incorrect about HIV risk factors, which I consider scientifically irresponsible, and socially dangerous.

- Gay man says gay men [specifically - receiving anal sex] are not at an increased risk of contracting HIV.
- Gay man then reports the "many" friends [all gay males, obviously] that he knows with HIV.

And doesn't even grasp the contradiction.

Putting it nicely, this is why Tim annoys me.

He's right that HIV is a very manageable illness [with medication].

Wasn't that fraud Dr. Fauci responsible for the scaremongering regarding HIV, in the eighties?
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: Matt on January 22, 2021, 05:51:11 PM
What in the wild world of sports are you doing spending the last 13 years of your life stewing about a getbig thread.  If prostitution is not locked down in Ontario, let me know and I'll door dash you some pussy for Christ sakes.  :)

Lol, because Tim made a comeback yesterday, and I was searching for another thread...then I noticed I was called out here, and checked it out.

I better stop saying that receiving anal sex puts people at risk for sexual infections. We don't want to offend homosexual males by attempting to raise awareness, or giving them factual information to possibly prevent them from contracting it.

Tim explicitly stated he knows many people with HIV. He talks about the virus like it's no big deal, like taking a cocktail of research chemicals every day for life is no problem. IMO, he is likely an HIV carrier.

So what's his motivation for downplaying one of the biggest risk factors of contracting HIV? Does he want others to possibly get it? If so... that's wretched.

Tim stating that HIV is manageable is one thing - it's desirable, even. I hope COVID has helped us all learn that living in irrational fear of potential medical problems is a bad thing.

But Tim downplaying the risk of contracting HIV through receiving anal sex is another matter entirely, and simply reprehensible to me.

Yes Tim, my goal is to "divide" people via my evil anti-homosexual agenda.

Fucking dumb shit. Being called names for the past 14 years for STATING FACTS deemed "unacceptable" by his social justice cult. Unbelievable.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: LurkerNoMore on January 23, 2021, 11:41:30 AM
What kind of dumb shit bumps a 12+ year old thread where he already looked like a moron on it to start with?
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on January 23, 2021, 11:49:53 AM
Everybody wanna be a bodybuilder, but nobody wanna have AIDS
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on January 23, 2021, 11:53:14 AM
Personally, If you are getting anally DP'ed bareback by two complete strangers, you get what you deserve

you deserve prison?
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: falco on January 23, 2021, 01:58:34 PM
Epic 12 yo answers.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: falco on January 23, 2021, 02:22:30 PM
Didnt Freddy Mercury get it from homo action?
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: Henda on January 23, 2021, 02:26:58 PM
Everybody wanna be a bodybuilder, but nobody wanna have AIDS

Doubt there is anyone ever in existence that deserves aids as much as this vile useless stinking cunt does
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: Matt on January 23, 2021, 04:33:25 PM
I don't think Tim can hear you much less care what you think 13 years after he posted this on Getbig.

That's why Tim Fogarty knows so many people with AIDS, by his own admission - because he didn't listen to people like me.

Neither did you. And now I get it: I was a mathematics degree holder speaking to a janitor.

It all makes sense now. And it annoys me. You never had the intelligence to hold a conversation with me. You're too stupid.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: LurkerNoMore on January 23, 2021, 04:36:55 PM
Is Matt a genuine retard?  Straight up serious question here.

This dude simply does not have a life it seems.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: Dave D on January 23, 2021, 05:15:12 PM
Is Matt a genuine retard?  Straight up serious question here.

This dude simply does not have a life it seems.

Matt is probably ok in real life just extremely awkward online. In addition to being Thunderbay’s richest small property owner he is also the strongest sub 200 pound narcissist in the Province. He’s a  borderline autistic and one of the top 7 fastest typers in the world. He’s also proud of his race, and there’s nothing wrong with that, but is not fond of other ethnicity’s.

Matt has struggled finding sustainable long term love from a woman but it hasn’t prevented him from fathering several children out of wedlock. It’s fair to say he’s not a traditionalist and that he walks to the beat of his own drum.

The covid lockdown has really done a number on his mental health, to the point that he’s heavily invested in American politics to an extreme level (see Kwon for a reference point) and he is now smoking a cigarette or 2 a week just for stress relief and mental clarity.

He’s eccentric with challenges  yes but not mentally retarded.

Also in the future please refrain form using the R word. It makes you look like a hypocrite.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: wes on January 23, 2021, 05:21:23 PM
I always liked Tim Fogarty and I see no reason to bash him as long as he isn`t blowing a load up your ass Matt.

What`s the big deal..............I`m missing something here.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: Taffin on January 23, 2021, 05:33:39 PM
Matt is probably ok in real life just extremely awkward online. In addition to being Thunderbay’s richest small property owner he is also the strongest sub 200 pound narcissist in the Province. He’s a  borderline autistic and one of the top 7 fastest typers in the world. He’s also proud of his race, and there’s nothing wrong with that, but is not fond of other ethnicity’s.

Matt has struggled finding sustainable long term love from a woman but it hasn’t prevented him from fathering several children out of wedlock. It’s fair to say he’s not a traditionalist and that he walks to the beat of his own drum.

The covid lockdown has really done a number on his mental health, to the point that he’s heavily invested in American politics to an extreme level (see Kwon for a reference point) and he is now smoking a cigarette or 2 a week just for stress relief and mental clarity.

He’s eccentric with challenges  yes but not mentally retarded.

Also in the future please refrain form using the R word. It makes you look like a hypocrite.


Hahahaa!  I think that's a couple of times recently now you've made me legit LOL with that subtle/dry humour  ;D
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: wes on January 23, 2021, 09:36:59 PM
Is Matt a genuine retard?  Straight up serious question here.

This dude simply does not have a life it seems.

 ;D

Matt is probably ok in real life just extremely awkward online. In addition to being Thunderbay’s richest small property owner he is also the strongest sub 200 pound narcissist in the Province. He’s a  borderline autistic and one of the top 7 fastest typers in the world. He’s also proud of his race, and there’s nothing wrong with that, but is not fond of other ethnicity’s.

Matt has struggled finding sustainable long term love from a woman but it hasn’t prevented him from fathering several children out of wedlock. It’s fair to say he’s not a traditionalist and that he walks to the beat of his own drum.

The covid lockdown has really done a number on his mental health, to the point that he’s heavily invested in American politics to an extreme level (see Kwon for a reference point) and he is now smoking a cigarette or 2 a week just for stress relief and mental clarity.

He’s eccentric with challenges  yes but not mentally retarded.

Also in the future please refrain form using the R word. It makes you look like a hypocrite.

Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: Fortress on January 23, 2021, 09:46:29 PM
Matt’s great.

I’d buy him a frosty mug of root beer any day.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: Matt on January 23, 2021, 10:15:21 PM
Hard bump:

So that means 200 Heterosexual men and women get HIV in 1 million one night stands.

What about the company you keep,Do you know which men are bisexual and what women they have been with.

Are these stats supplied by the Catholic Church they seem very suspect.

Because you are brainwashed. Mainstream media made you believe something that wasn't true. So when I come with the actual facts, you blame me.

Feel free to post any data to proving me wrong.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: pamith on January 23, 2021, 10:27:59 PM
Was Nasser gay??  ???
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: pamith on January 23, 2021, 11:28:20 PM
Me Einstein!
My nikka
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on January 24, 2021, 08:40:15 AM
Was Nasser gay??  ???

I have never seen any evidence of this. He had several lady friends.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: Matt on January 24, 2021, 09:51:58 AM
I always liked Tim Fogarty and I see no reason to bash him as long as he isn`t blowing a load up your ass Matt.

What`s the big deal..............I`m missing something here.

Tim called me an anti-homosexual bigot for stating facts regarding the spread of HIV. Information that will help people by ultimately reducing the spread of HIV within the homosexual male and intravenous drug-using communities - the two biggest at-risk communities, by far.

Imagine if you stated a comment, and my reply was to attempt to purposely make you feel like shit for acknowledging reality?

Tim could attempt to use reason and evidence to convince me, but he knows he's wrong, so his only option is to insult me. This is basically me copying Tim at debating:

Tim, you have a typo of your website, you AIDS-drinking degenerate.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: Matt on January 24, 2021, 09:56:56 AM
Also factor in that HIV cannot survive in Saliva, kills it instantly. so even those closet homos hitting the glory holes for blowjobs aren't at that much risk.  HIV is transmitted two ways, letting someone cum in your asshole or IV use.  LIke Matt C. said, why aren't we all dropping like flies? HIV has been around for over 25 years now. The reason it's such a big deal in the first place is that it hit the New York City gay community hard, and a lot of those fairies are in positions of power in the media, hence the  uproar

This is what we need more of in the world. People willing to stat objective reality, no matter who it offends.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on January 24, 2021, 10:00:12 AM
Also factor in that HIV cannot survive in Saliva, kills it instantly. so even those closet homos hitting the glory holes for blowjobs aren't at that much risk. 

Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: Matt on January 24, 2021, 10:01:19 AM
Matt C is simply forgetting the spiking incidence rates, by claiming it's easier to attract HIV as woman or via needles.

facts are that in the netherlands HIV is on the rise, bigtime, the fact that it's an even steeper increase among gay men, doesn't diminish the  HIV problem among heterosexuals. Campaigns are important for both groups.

and btw Matt, singeling out one 'ad homunum' reply and cry wolf while you ignore sensible replies isn't exactly proper debating ettiquette.

Hahahaha. Fucking retard.

The only "spike" in HIV in heterosexuals are those getting it through intravenous drug use, or from receiving anal sex.

Lots of great people on this board over the years, but clearly quite a few morons too.

Man, no wonder people dislike me. Who else rapes people in debates like I do? Intellectually, I must make people feel two inches tall.

And everyone "debating" me her knows that they are wrong too. Including Tim.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: Henda on January 24, 2021, 10:03:34 AM
Getting back to the title of the thread, there are many competition bodybuilders with HIV.   While taking all those meds every day is no fun, for many HIV is a manageable disease.  I have many friends who have been HIV positive for over 20 years, and are doing fine.   

I'd be willing to bet that at a competition like the NPC Nationals or USAs, where there are hundreds of competitors, at least a dozen of them are HIV positive.

This is not really something someone should speak openly and proudly about, seek out new friends immediately
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on January 24, 2021, 10:06:26 AM
Tim, you have a typo of your website, you AIDS-drinking degenerate.

 :D  ;D
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: Matt on January 24, 2021, 10:12:45 AM
You expressed that you were offended by a billboard campaign that showed an average looking woman with the caption "Do you recognize the face of AIDS?"     A major cause of the world's problems is that we like to divide the world into "them" vs "us".  It is easy to dismiss other people's problems when you see them as a "them".  It is easy to start wars with people when you see them as a "them".   It is harder to do when you see them as part of "us". 

Regarding HIV and AIDS, you've decided what is a "them" and you are offended that the billboard is showing an example that doesn't fit your definition.  The ad campaign was accurate.  There are many people who don't fit your definition of who has HIV.   I'm sure someone you know has HIV and just hasn't shared it with you.

While the rate of transmission for some specific act may be 1 in 2000, you can still be infected the very first time.   And there are many other diseases that are transmitted via unprotected sex, some are incurable and can lead to death, such as Hep-C.     Anything that makes you re-access the risk before you act is not a bad thing.

You're a piece of shit, Tim. People like you are the reason we live in a world where people don't want to state facts, and you and LGBT/SJW scum like you are the reason for that.

I stated that 87% of HIV patients are either homosexual males [men who received anal sex from other men] or IV-drug users. Most of the remaining 13% are women who received anal sex from either of the first two groups.

I'm not saying this to "divide" anyone into "us versus them" by making anyone hate gays.

I'm raising awareness about sexual health, and you are a degenerate piece of trash for attempting to guilt-trip me into stopping the proliferation of medically important scientific data.

I understand that you almost definitely have HIV...my question is: are you purposely trying to prevent knowledge of HIV spreading, so that actual HIV spreads, so you have more men to date on HIV dating websites?

If so, you are a sick fuck [in addition to being an asshole].

Tim - I IMPLORE YOU to refute a single WORD of what I have said about HIV based on FACTS, rather than name-calling.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: Matt on January 24, 2021, 10:13:40 AM
Matt C is exceptionally steadfast in his own subjective opinions. He will not change his view on HIV and heterosexual sex no matter which arguments are put forward.

Not an argument.

State an argument that you want me to review, you fucking tool.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: Griffith on January 24, 2021, 10:27:23 AM
Most of those with AIDS didn’t bother to wear a condom.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: Matt on January 24, 2021, 10:42:02 AM
This is not really something someone should speak openly and proudly about, seek out new friends immediately

Hahahaha, he boasts about the number of HIV/AIDS-carrying friends he has, while shaming me and attempting to make me feel like a bad person for raising awareness regarding how HIV spreads most efficiently.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: Matt on January 24, 2021, 10:46:00 AM
Fitness frenzy - why call me out then back away?

What view do you claim I have that isn't grounded in reality? Name one. I can't even find a single post where I made a single error, going back 12 years.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: BossBoss on January 24, 2021, 10:49:49 AM
I can't even find a single post where I made a single error, going back 12 years.

I could find many many posts with errors..
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: Matt on January 24, 2021, 11:12:00 AM
A major cause of the world's problems is that we like to divide the world into "them" vs "us".  It is easy to dismiss other people's problems when you see them as a "them".  It is easy to start wars with people when you see them as a "them".   It is harder to do when you see them as part of "us".

Fuck you.

I'm trying to RAISE AWARENESS SO THAT PEOPLE CAN ADEQUATELY SAFEGUARD THEIR SEXUAL HEALTH THROUGH INFORMED DECISION-MAKING.

You HIV-spreading degenerate.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: Matt on January 24, 2021, 11:13:46 AM
I could find many many posts with errors..

If you mean spelling errors, you are write.

As for factual errors, that surprises me very much.

Where, in the past 15 years, have I made a factual error?
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: Matt on January 24, 2021, 11:19:28 AM
You have to understand that you're basically trying to argue people out of their religion. The public has been fed such a steady diet of AIDS bs that they can't possibly fathom that they've been duped.

However, all one has to do is take a look at a more promiscuous subset of the heterosexual population, Pro-athletes and rock stars, to see that the myth of AIDS "exploding" in the straight population is a crock.

If Tommy Lee doesn't have AIDS, no straight man does.

After reading your post - relief washes over me in an awesome wave.

Yes, people have been duped. It's very similar to COVID hysteria. And it is a religion for these people. A faith-based agenda, even though they think they are scientific.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: Les Grossman on January 24, 2021, 11:23:54 AM
Fitness frenzy - why call me out then back away?

What view do you claim I have that isn't grounded in reality? Name one. I can't even find a single post where I made a single error, going back 12 years.

Okay... I laughed out loud at this.

RainMatt you’re entire life isn’t grounded in reality.

You remind me of Suzanne (Crazy Eyes) on the show “Orange is the New Black.”
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: wes on January 24, 2021, 11:24:16 AM
Where, in the past 15 years, have I made a factual error?
(https://i.imgflip.com/19znwe.jpg)
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: Les Grossman on January 24, 2021, 11:27:29 AM
(https://i.imgflip.com/19znwe.jpg)

 ;D
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: Matt on January 24, 2021, 11:39:56 AM
Tim's mentality is covered here:

Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: King Shizzo on January 24, 2021, 11:40:49 AM
Don't bring Goodrum into this.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: harmankardon1 on January 24, 2021, 01:13:54 PM
Unprotected sex give me a break condoms are a fucking joke...
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: Taffin on January 24, 2021, 01:19:34 PM
I could find many many posts with errors..

If you mean spelling errors, you are write.

 ;D


Fuck you.

I'm trying to RAISE AWARENESS SO THAT PEOPLE CAN ADEQUATELY SAFEGUARD THEIR SEXUAL HEALTH THROUGH INFORMED DECISION-MAKING.


On GetBig?  ???
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on January 24, 2021, 01:20:11 PM
So does Tim Fogarty have aids?
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: Henda on January 24, 2021, 01:27:14 PM
So does Tim Fogarty have aids?

I think we can safely assume so, I doubt any man free of aids would have many friends that are faggots with aids like he said earlier, I assume most of us don’t ever want those infested with aids anywhere near us
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: MAXX on January 24, 2021, 01:27:36 PM
Maybe you can't consider him a bodybuilder. But he's in the bb circles/youtube media. Big Lenny, I think he has HIV.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: AbrahamG on January 24, 2021, 01:34:11 PM
Matt has been lost since Wopner passed away.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: Matt on January 24, 2021, 01:47:27 PM
So that means 200 Heterosexual men and women get HIV in 1 million one night stands.

LMAO...you need to have sex with someone WITH HIV in order to contract it. Dumb idiot.

It's not 200 cases of HIV contracted in straight males per one million one stands - it's 200 cases per one million incidents one night stands WITH PEOPLE WITH HIV.

Fucking dumb idiot.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: Matt on January 24, 2021, 01:56:08 PM
Matt has been lost since Wopner passed away.

Hahaha, yeah but what did I say here that was wrong?

I'm going through this entire thread and not finding it.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: illuminati on January 24, 2021, 02:11:27 PM
Who besides Matt would argue with people about what they posted in 2008 as if he's having the argument in the present tense? That's pretty much the same thing as talking to yourself....something which paranoid schizophrenics have been known to do.

AND ?? Are you having a Dig at Me. 😡🤬😡🤬😡🤬
I always talk to myself - WTF is wrong with that.

Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: wes on January 24, 2021, 02:15:06 PM
Perhaps its Matt that is missing the load
;D
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: Matt on January 24, 2021, 02:31:28 PM
Now, how would I have know that? Do you do it out loud and in public? If you keep the conversation positive, that's a plus.  ;)

On the other hand, some people with schizophrenia appear to talk to themselves as they respond to the voices in their heads.

Calling me a bigot for stating facts is unacceptable. Everyone who knows me - everyone in my CITY who knows me - knows better than to do that.

Also, what good does it help people to lie to homosexuals about the risk factors associated with HIV.

Receiving anal sex and intravenous drug use with shared needles are the two biggest risk factors for HIV. They ar practically the ONLY risk factors.

Do you think Tim calling me a bigot through implication is the appropriate response to a person just attempting to raise awareness?

He reminds me of that piece of shit booty. Someone states a fact, and rather than simply acknowledge the fact I state, she calls me name. In real life, I'd give that bitch 10 seconds to apologize. And she would. And that would be all she wrote.

To assume my motivation irrespective of the facts I state is weird. I had no problem with the homosexual community until around 2015. When gay marriage was legalized in all of North America by 2015, and gays doubled down on their bitching, I stopped supporting.

I ask nothing of homosexuals, except that they leave me be. They are simply liabilities to me, and I don't have time dealing with some BS false allegation of a hate crime by a gay guy.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: Taffin on January 24, 2021, 02:33:02 PM
So does Tim Fogarty have aids?

No, that's Flex Lewis you're thinking of
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on January 24, 2021, 02:36:30 PM
Perhaps its Matt that is missing the load

(https://i.postimg.cc/pLLRcRz9/melvin-goodrum-4g4b4giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: Taffin on January 24, 2021, 02:38:06 PM
Maybe you can't consider him a bodybuilder. But he's in the bb circles/youtube media. Big Lenny, I think he has HIV.

After seeing him drink that tranny p1ss straight from the tap, I'm not surprised...


...what good does it help people to lie to homosexuals about the risk factors associated with HIV.

Receiving anal sex and intravenous drug use with shared needles are the two biggest risk factors for HIV. They ar practically the ONLY risk factors.


So just to be clear

Anvil = bad
But Hammer = good?

(Asking for a friend)
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: Matt on January 24, 2021, 02:44:30 PM
So does Tim Fogarty have aids?

Why else would a homosexual male know "many" people with HIV, and be attempting to raise awareness that HIV is much more manageable than stereotypes made it out to be? Incidentally, Tim is not wrong about that. He has a dog in this fight, but he's not wrong. HIV is not a death sentence. The homosexuals who died very young from AIDS were probably on lifetime crack benders. But assholes like Tim didn't want to say that, since it would "hurt the feelings" of homosexuals.

So instead, in the early 1990's, we had perverse things like men being afraid to KISS women, because scaring the entire population was considered more desirable than "offending" some HIV-ridden degenerate gay like Tim.

So yes, I'd bet any money Tim Fogarty has HIV.

All I expect from that piece of shit is for him to acknowledge that what I'm saying is correct. But instead, he would rather call me a bigot.

Oh man, I CANNOT WAIT for the first and last person to call me homophobic to my face. I'll punch holes in them. But then... everyone knows that...and I guess that's why I've never been called homophobic to my face.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: Matt on January 24, 2021, 02:58:25 PM
So just to be clear

Anvil = bad
But Hammer = good?

(Asking for a friend)

Yes, exactly! Thank you for asking me a specific question, rather than implying my high IQ is some moral failing, like that AIDS-drinking degenerate Tim Fogarty did.

Anal-Receptive Sex = HIGH RISK! Huge. If you take an ejaculation from a man with HIV about 125 times, you will contract HIV! It doesn't take much. Not to scaremonger here - but know the odds.

Anal-Insertive Sex = Slightly riskier than vaginal-insertive sex [penetrating a woman], but not by much.

As for Tim saying "It only takes one time":

Tim - you are a piece of shit. You better start smoking two packs of cigarettes a day, since you may be the ONE person to do that who doesn't get lung cancer. Idiot.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: Matt on January 24, 2021, 03:04:28 PM
What the heck are you talking about and who are you talking to? You just replied to a something I posted in response to Illumanati. It is like you're eves-dropping and then speaking out of turn and out of context. Weird.

As I've repeatedly stated, this thread is a prime example of me getting shit on, when all I was, was right.

Tim is a piece of garbage human being to attempt to make me feel guilty for stating facts. Fucking scumbag.

Homosexual male bottoms are at the greatest risk of contracting HIV. Tim is an HIV-carrier because he opted to call people like me bigots, rather than hearing what they had to say.

Now that the test of time has proven me 100% correct, all I ask is that people like Tim never address me, and never return to my life again. Fucking scumbag. Shitting on me for being correct, and stating SCIENTIFIC AND MEDICAL facts, to ultimately help homosexual men.

Tim - say it to my face, you fucking homo.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on January 24, 2021, 03:54:15 PM
And by the way, it only takes one sexual intercourse with the wrong person to become infected with HIV. That is not the same as someone saying they only had risky sex one time....but techically, it could happen.

But Matt said you can receive cum in the anus 125 times and it is only risky thereafter...

Should I listen to you or Matt?
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: wes on January 24, 2021, 03:54:27 PM
I dont get why Matt gives two fucks!!

I must be missing something.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on January 24, 2021, 04:02:00 PM
I dont get why Matt gives two fucks!!

I must be missing something.

He has some kind of beef with Tim Fogarty and I think it spiraled out of control from there.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: Les Grossman on January 24, 2021, 04:22:40 PM
Why else would a homosexual male know "many" people with HIV, and be attempting to raise awareness that HIV is much more manageable than stereotypes made it out to be? Incidentally, Tim is not wrong about that. He has a dog in this fight, but he's not wrong. HIV is not a death sentence. The homosexuals who died very young from AIDS were probably on lifetime crack benders. But assholes like Tim didn't want to say that, since it would "hurt the feelings" of homosexuals.

So instead, in the early 1990's, we had perverse things like men being afraid to KISS women, because scaring the entire population was considered more desirable than "offending" some HIV-ridden degenerate gay like Tim.

So yes, I'd bet any money Tim Fogarty has HIV.

All I expect from that piece of shit is for him to acknowledge that what I'm saying is correct. But instead, he would rather call me a bigot.

Oh man, I CANNOT WAIT for the first and last person to call me homophobic to my face. I'll punch holes in them. But then... everyone knows that...and I guess that's why I've never been called homophobic to my face.

Settle down Bieber, you homophobic autistic twink.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on January 24, 2021, 04:35:48 PM
Despite all the crap some people, including you give me about my sex life (which is really nobody's business), I have never had an STD in my entire very long life.

I fully respect that your private sex life is nobody's business.

But in all honesty prime, you know what Getbig is life. Did you think people on Getbig would not take an interest to comment, when you admitted to visiting glory holes?  :D  ;D
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: Les Grossman on January 24, 2021, 04:42:26 PM
But Matt said you can receive cum in the anus 125 times and it is only risky thereafter...

Should I listen to you or Matt?

Good thing you stopped at #124.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: wes on January 24, 2021, 05:15:20 PM
He has some kind of beef with Tim Fogarty and I think it spiraled out of control from there.
Yeah but in 2008 ......................WT F ???
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: Matt on January 24, 2021, 11:05:06 PM
I went to Tim Fogarty's Twitter account to tell him he has HIV, and found this, LOL:

https://mobile.twitter.com/dwaynerade/status/1353009903594573824

Leftists are such stupid fucks.

How delusional must a person be to call a far-left politician a "conservative". Just own your countless failures, left-wing morons.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on January 25, 2021, 05:27:55 AM
Matt you are sad....so very, very sad.

Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: Iron-Muscle on January 25, 2021, 06:48:01 AM
new to the forum
what i notice
prime-weird guy comments like an expert in every thread, every sub-forum :-\
matt is honest, and it hurts peoples feelings

very smart guy (matt) poster of the decade it seems
i came here from vinces youtube, but he doesnt seem to post much
too busy making bank i guess  :P
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on January 25, 2021, 07:33:03 AM
welcome to getbig
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: AbrahamG on January 25, 2021, 04:04:37 PM
new to the forum
what i notice
prime-weird guy comments like an expert in every thread, every sub-forum :-\
matt is honest, and it hurts peoples feelings

very smart guy (matt) poster of the decade it seems
i came here from vinces youtube, but he doesnt seem to post much
too busy making bank i guess  :P

Hi Matt.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: Matt on January 25, 2021, 04:11:59 PM
Hi Matt.

 ;D

PS - it's controversial to state scientifically verifiable facts?  ??? It makes me an "illness" to proliferate factual data?  ???

Ok, I'll stop doing it. I apologize fo stating facts. Go get fucked in the ass by ten men with AIDS. I wouldn't want to come across as homophobic or oppressive or whatever.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: AbrahamG on January 25, 2021, 05:20:05 PM
;D

PS - it's controversial to state scientifically verifiable facts?  ??? It makes me an "illness" to proliferate factual data?  ???

Ok, I'll stop doing it. I apologize fo stating facts. Go get fucked in the ass by ten men with AIDS. I wouldn't want to come across as homophobic or oppressive or whatever.

Easy shooter.  I probably agree with much of your view on hiv/aids.  I also am convinced that receivers of the penis are at highest risk.  Oral sex is almost entirely without risk.  Men fucking women if the men are bi or intravenous drug users are high risk as well.  I don't think there is much argument from the medical community about these things.  However, it is still possible that through extenuating circumstances hiv can be transmitted through heterosexual contact of all varieties.  Granted, it would be like winning the un-lottery.  It would be irresponsible to tell hetero folk to go out and raw dog away as there are things other than the hiv than can alter and ruin people's lives.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: Matt on January 25, 2021, 08:56:25 PM
A major cause of the world's problems is that we like to divide the world into "them" vs "us".  It is easy to dismiss other people's problems when you see them as a "them".

Yes - I agree that a major cause of the world's problems stems from ASSHOLES like you dismissing people like me who do nothing but STATE FACTS, by accusing them of bigotry.

The reason why I STATE FACTS has nothing to do with your homophobic boogeyman, but is to actually prevent homos like you from spreading HIV around, and taxing the healthcare system - be it the rationing of resources in a garbage socialist healthcare system like the one Canada has, or in a superior private coverage model offered to American citizens. But first and foremost, it is to provide the two biggest at-risk populations for HIV with INFORMATION so that they can make informed, safe, sexual choices. Clearly a lesson that escaped you since you know "many" people with HIV.

But being shut down by - once again - ASSHOLES like you prevents these FACTS from spreading, which explains why you know the aforementioned "many" people with HIV.

Oh - the irony!
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: Matt on January 25, 2021, 08:57:02 PM
YOU are an illness

Shut the fuck up.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: Matt on January 25, 2021, 08:58:39 PM
Bodybuilders With AIDS

Lance Bass.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: Les Grossman on January 25, 2021, 09:43:27 PM
new to the forum
what i notice
prime-weird guy comments like an expert in every thread, every sub-forum :-\
matt is honest, and it hurts peoples feelings

very smart guy (matt) poster of the decade it seems
i came here from vinces youtube, but he doesnt seem to post much
too busy making bank i guess  :P

Matt that is the worst gimmick in Getbig history.

Slap yourself in the ballbag with a bowling shoe for that level of stupidity.
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: AbrahamG on January 25, 2021, 09:44:39 PM
Matt that is the worst gimmick in Getbig history.

Slap yourself in the ballbag with a bowling shoe for that level of stupidity.

Finally.  Something we agree on.  Now go fuck yourself.   ;D
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: Les Grossman on January 25, 2021, 09:51:30 PM
Finally.  Something we agree on.  Now go fuck yourself.   ;D

Going to have to wait until after I get done assfucking your wife?

What time do you get home from your boyfriend’s house, so I know how much time I have in your wifey’s turd tube?
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: AbrahamG on January 25, 2021, 10:16:57 PM
Going to have to wait until after I get done assfucking your wife?

What time do you get home from your boyfriend’s house, so I know how much time I have in your wifey’s turd tube?

Take your time, I'm sleeping over. 
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: Iron-Muscle on January 26, 2021, 05:06:08 AM
Matt that is the worst gimmick in Getbig history.

Slap yourself in the ballbag with a bowling shoe for that level of stupidity.

Les, I used a golf shoe for the spikes. thanks for the idea
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: Humble Narcissist on January 26, 2021, 09:20:30 AM
Matt causing some serious meltdowns today. ;D
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: Taffin on January 26, 2021, 10:08:58 AM
Take your time, I'm sleeping over.

No you're not - not after the mess you left last time  >:(
Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on January 26, 2021, 10:17:20 AM
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Title: Re: Bodybuilders With AIDS
Post by: AbrahamG on January 26, 2021, 12:30:25 PM
No you're not - not after the mess you left last time  >:(

My bad.