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In 4 minutes, Marco Rubio Gets Schooled On US Foreign Policy
« on: March 12, 2015, 09:35:10 AM »
that's what happens when you use fox news talking points :D


"At the recent CPAC gathering, Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.), a likely Republican presidential candidate, seemed to stumble on one of the basic facts of the Middle East. “The reason Obama hasn’t put in place a military strategy to defeat ISIS is because he doesn’t want to upset Iran,” the Florida Republican said.

The senator seemed confused. In reality, President Obama has put an anti-ISIS military strategy in place, and that’s fine with Iran, since Iran and ISIS are enemies."

By Steve Benen




At the recent CPAC gathering, Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.), a likely Republican presidential candidate, seemed to stumble on one of the basic facts of the Middle East. “The reason Obama hasn’t put in place a military strategy to defeat ISIS is because he doesn’t want to upset Iran,” the Florida Republican said.

 

The senator seemed confused. In reality, President Obama has put an anti-ISIS military strategy in place, and that’s fine with Iran, since Iran and ISIS are enemies.

 

I’d hoped that Rubio just misspoke, or had been briefed poorly by an aide, but apparently not - -at a Senate Foreign Relations Committee hearing this afternoon, the far-right Floridian continued to push this strange theory, pressing Secretary of State John Kerry on the point. “I believe that much of our strategy with regards to ISIS is being driven by a desire not to upset Iran so they don’t walk away from the negotiating table on the deal that you’re working on,” Rubio said. “Tell me why I’m wrong.”

 

And so, Kerry told him why he’s wrong.






 

 

For those who can’t watch clips online, here’s the heart of the exchange.

 


KERRY: What’s important, senator, with respect to your question is to understand this. And I think this has been a misread by a lot of people up here on the Hill, to be honest with you. There is no grand bargain being discussed here with regards to this negotiation, this is about a nuclear weapon potential. That’s it. And the president has made it absolutely clear they will not get a nuclear weapon. Now the presumption by a lot of people up on the Hill here has been that we somehow aren’t aware of that goal even as we negotiate that goal. Our negotiation is calculated to make sure they can’t get a nuclear weapon. It’s really almost insulting that the presumption here is that we’re going to negotiate something that allows them to get a nuclear weapon.

 

RUBIO: Well I haven’t discussed about the nuclear weapon but I – and I’m not saying there is a grand bargain – what I’m saying is that I believe that our military strategy towards ISIS is influenced by our desire not to cross red lines That the Iranians have –

 

KERRY: Absolutely not in the least.

Rubio went on to insist that many of our Sunni allies in the region – including Jordan and U.A.E. – feel as if we’ve kept them “in the dark” about the nuclear talks with Iran, reducing our “trust level” in the region.

 

Again, Kerry had to patiently explained to the Republican, “Senator, that is actually flat wrong.”

 

Honestly, it was like watching a competent teacher trying to explain the basics of current events to a student who failed to do his homework. Andrea Mitchell said the Secretary of State took Rubio “to school.”

 

Rubio recently said he’d have an important advantage in the race for the White House because he, unlike the GOP governors, has “a clear view of what’s happening in the world.” The senator added that for governors running for president, international affairs will be “a challenge, at least initially, because they don’t deal with foreign policy on a daily basis.”

 

That’s not a bad argument, though it’s predicated on the assumption that senators who deal with foreign policy actually have some idea what they’re talking about. This afternoon, Rubio fell far short.

 


 





http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/kerry-teaches-rubio-the-basics-about-the-middle-east?cid=sm_fb_maddow

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Re: In 4 minutes, Marco Rubio Gets Schooled On US Foreign Policy
« Reply #1 on: March 12, 2015, 10:05:01 AM »
When will people realize this?   Rubio, like obama before him, is in the business of running for president.

Some people want to change the world, some people want to make laws, get rich, whatever.  Rubio just wants to be prez.  Senate is only a stepping stone  And he's morphed positions on things like amnesty just to be on the right side of base primary voters.

He isn't interested in learning everyhting he can get his hands on - He's not interested in learning the depth of global issues he'll need to run the world as POTUS.  He's running for pres, period.

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Re: In 4 minutes, Marco Rubio Gets Schooled On US Foreign Policy
« Reply #2 on: March 12, 2015, 10:33:23 AM »
Really...this is what you got.......Rubio did a good job. Iran controls Iraq right now and doesn't want the US stepping back in. Unless they brief Congress on these talks Rubio and the rest are going to assume things. So again...if your a left wing apeasing douch...this is what you would see..but agin your wrong.
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Re: In 4 minutes, Marco Rubio Gets Schooled On US Foreign Policy
« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2015, 10:39:34 AM »
Really...this is what you got.......Rubio did a good job. Iran controls Iraq right now and doesn't want the US stepping back in. Unless they brief Congress on these talks Rubio and the rest are going to assume things. So again...if your a left wing apeasing douch...this is what you would see..but agin your wrong.

brahahahahaahaha he was wrong on every point he brought up but he did a good job hahahaahahahahahaha the dumbing down of the republican party  Buchanan was spot on

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Re: In 4 minutes, Marco Rubio Gets Schooled On US Foreign Policy
« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2015, 10:55:10 AM »
This is dumb.  And desperate. 

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Re: In 4 minutes, Marco Rubio Gets Schooled On US Foreign Policy
« Reply #5 on: March 12, 2015, 10:57:32 AM »
opinions are like assholes       everyone has one and they usually stink

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Re: In 4 minutes, Marco Rubio Gets Schooled On US Foreign Policy
« Reply #6 on: March 12, 2015, 11:03:30 AM »
opinions are like assholes       everyone has one and they usually stink

You mean like Rubio getting schooled on foreign policy?  I agree.

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Re: In 4 minutes, Marco Rubio Gets Schooled On US Foreign Policy
« Reply #7 on: March 12, 2015, 11:14:16 AM »
You mean like Rubio getting schooled on foreign policy?  I agree.

call it what you want but he was wrong on  every point he brought up,some would call that schooled :D

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Re: In 4 minutes, Marco Rubio Gets Schooled On US Foreign Policy
« Reply #8 on: March 12, 2015, 11:16:53 AM »
call it what you want but he was wrong on  every point he brought up,some would call that schooled :D

Wrong according to who?  Kerry?? 

But let's assume he was wrong.  Who cares?  This is really small potatoes.  Liberals desperate to find something to attack a potential contender.  Predictable pattern. 

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Re: In 4 minutes, Marco Rubio Gets Schooled On US Foreign Policy
« Reply #9 on: March 12, 2015, 11:19:32 AM »
Wrong according to who?  Kerry?? 

But let's assume he was wrong.  Who cares?  This is really small potatoes.  Liberals desperate to find something to attack a potential contender.  Predictable pattern. 

hahaha you mean like Clinton,and he was wrong

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Re: In 4 minutes, Marco Rubio Gets Schooled On US Foreign Policy
« Reply #10 on: March 12, 2015, 11:22:58 AM »
hahaha you mean like Clinton,and he was wrong

Hillary doing 100 percent of her State Department business on her personal email and deleting 30,000 emails that she personally screened is a legitimate story.  I know you don't care because she could club a baby seal and you'd probably say the seal deserved it, but this story stinks.   

So what if Rubio was wrong?  (Not saying he actually was.)  It's insignificant. 

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Re: In 4 minutes, Marco Rubio Gets Schooled On US Foreign Policy
« Reply #11 on: March 12, 2015, 11:30:20 AM »
Hillary doing 100 percent of her State Department business on her personal email and deleting 30,000 emails that she personally screened is a legitimate story.  I know you don't care because she could club a baby seal and you'd probably say the seal deserved it, but this story stinks.  

So what if Rubio was wrong?  (Not saying he actually was.)  It's insignificant.  

what he should have done is asked questions, instead he went in there all cocky like he was going to put one on them,instead he looked like a fool.that's why people are shitting on him now

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Re: In 4 minutes, Marco Rubio Gets Schooled On US Foreign Policy
« Reply #12 on: March 12, 2015, 11:30:46 AM »
I stopped reading after "Kerry said". Kerry is a dipshit of the highest level. Maybe he could bring in Bob Dillon.

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Re: In 4 minutes, Marco Rubio Gets Schooled On US Foreign Policy
« Reply #13 on: March 12, 2015, 11:32:57 AM »
what he should have done is asked questions instead he went in there all cocky like he was going to put one on them,instead he looked like a fool.that's why people are shitting on him now

You're assuming Kerry made him look like a fool.  And nobody is really talking about this, especially if it was featured on MSNBC. 

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Re: In 4 minutes, Marco Rubio Gets Schooled On US Foreign Policy
« Reply #14 on: March 12, 2015, 11:34:42 AM »
You're assuming Kerry made him look like a fool.  And nobody is really talking about this, especially if it was featured on MSNBC. 

no assuming going on watch the video it's on you tube

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Re: In 4 minutes, Marco Rubio Gets Schooled On US Foreign Policy
« Reply #15 on: March 12, 2015, 11:46:23 AM »
no assuming going on watch the video it's on you tube

Ok.  I just watched all 5 minutes and 3 seconds of the clip.  You call that getting schooled?  Are you kidding??  Rubio mainly asked questions and expressed some opinions.  Kerry disagreed with him.  Wow.  Stop the presses.  lol

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Re: In 4 minutes, Marco Rubio Gets Schooled On US Foreign Policy
« Reply #16 on: March 12, 2015, 02:47:41 PM »
Ok.  I just watched all 5 minutes and 3 seconds of the clip.  You call that getting schooled?  Are you kidding??  Rubio mainly asked questions and expressed some opinions.  Kerry disagreed with him.  Wow.  Stop the presses.  lol

your not being honest or your not too bright,he was not asking questions.since when do you ask a question with I believe LOL.

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Re: In 4 minutes, Marco Rubio Gets Schooled On US Foreign Policy
« Reply #17 on: March 12, 2015, 03:49:45 PM »
your not being honest or your not too bright,he was not asking questions.since when do you ask a question with I believe LOL.

I listened to the entire clip.  He asked questions and gave opinions.  If that's not what you see then more power to you. 

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Re: In 4 minutes, Marco Rubio Gets Schooled On US Foreign Policy
« Reply #18 on: March 12, 2015, 04:13:11 PM »
This is reach, even for you, Blacken.

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Re: In 4 minutes, Marco Rubio Gets Schooled On US Foreign Policy
« Reply #19 on: March 12, 2015, 04:15:42 PM »
As President, someone will have to sit Rubio down and explain to him the dynamic between Iran and ISIS.
They'll also have to explain obama DID have a policy in place, even if it was an ineffective one.

Rubio is ill-informed on this issue, and anyone who argues otherwise is a partisan hack or just plain stupid.  Yes, if you believe it's normal for a national senator not to know these 2 things he did get wrong here, you have rocks in your head lol.

It's okay that he's ill-informed on this issue... nobody can be an expert on every issue.  If he ends up being ill-informed on many issues (like we saw with Fred Thompson or Hermann Cain), then voters should be scared.  If Rubio doesn't know whit about ISIS because he spends to much time learning economy, etc, that's cool, but he'll have to brush up quickly.  Rubio would be a safe president, not stellar, he'll be like mccain, centrist and a lot like Jeb. 

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Re: In 4 minutes, Marco Rubio Gets Schooled On US Foreign Policy
« Reply #20 on: March 12, 2015, 04:25:15 PM »
I stopped reading after "Kerry said". Kerry is a dipshit of the highest level. Maybe he could bring in Bob Dillon.

Still a traitor in my book for throwing his fellow Soldiers under the bus during the Vietnam War. 

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Re: In 4 minutes, Marco Rubio Gets Schooled On US Foreign Policy
« Reply #21 on: March 12, 2015, 06:14:53 PM »
it's fine to excuse Rubio's ignorance on the subject... nobody is perfect.

it's not fine to pretend he was right on this subject, as he obviously was not.

Rubio is a safe choice if you like centrists like Jeb or Christie.  He's not a tea party darling, anyone who's seen him waffle on positions knows that now.  Rand came along and Rubio had to change up fast, and he chose center.

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Re: In 4 minutes, Marco Rubio Gets Schooled On US Foreign Policy
« Reply #22 on: March 12, 2015, 06:19:05 PM »
I listened to the entire clip.  He asked questions and gave opinions.  If that's not what you see then more power to you. 

so the only question left is not honest or dumb

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Re: In 4 minutes, Marco Rubio Gets Schooled On US Foreign Policy
« Reply #23 on: March 12, 2015, 07:02:26 PM »
so the only question left is not honest or dumb

No I don't think you are dishonest, but you do plagiarize quite a bit.  And no I don't think you are dumb.  You were probably just sick or playing hooky on the days they taught English and grammar in school.   :)

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Re: In 4 minutes, Marco Rubio Gets Schooled On US Foreign Policy
« Reply #24 on: March 12, 2015, 07:17:06 PM »
No I don't think you are dishonest, but you do plagiarize quite a bit.  And no I don't think you are dumb.  You were probably just sick or playing hooky on the days they taught English and grammar in school.   :)

ookk anybody who's watches it and is honest with themselves knows your full of shit.one thing I noticed about you is you never admit your wrong :D