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Getbig Misc Discussion Boards => Conspiracy Theories Board => Topic started by: Hugo Chavez on October 07, 2009, 03:32:51 AM
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For this examination of evidence, I’ve decided to treat craters like fingerprints. There are unique patterns to the craters just like a fingerprint is unique. If the moon landing was faked in a studio as all conspiracy theories on this say, then you should not be able to match actual crater patterns exactly to video of the original moon landings. So the challenge for me here was to find the trajectory of the landing and match to images of the moon. As you can see below I found a match. Watch the youtube video of the Apollo 14 landing below. They note that "triplets" are coming up. These are the 3 large craters in the image below. In the video you’ll see them fly over these before landing. So I figured a good place to look for an actual crater fingerprint would be right before they fly over the “triplets.” I did a video capture at 3:14 then found an actual image of that area of the moon to compare.
1. Background of image below is an actual image of the moon.
2. Red outline is a vid capture of the landing @ 3:14 in the youtube vid below.
3. Yellow outline on the right was copied to the yellow outline on the left to directly compare for crater fingerprint to moon landing vid capture outlined in red.
4. Craters were outlined to show a pattern match between Apollo 14 landing and actual moon image.
5. Blue line is the flight trajectory and arrow points to the landing where you can see the LM is still there.
6. Pink arrows point to actual tracks left by the astronauts. If you click the image below it’ll open up a larger image and you can even see where the tracks walk around craters.
7. I numbered in red the 3 largest craters of the crater fingerprint I found 1, 2 and 3.
(http://oi56.tinypic.com/122jhc0.jpg)
VIDEO OF APOLLO 14 LANDING; Screen capture @ 3:14 is shown above in the red outline.
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You hear we gonna bomb the moon this Friday?
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You hear we gonna bomb the moon this Friday?
thats what i actually wanted to talk about, my bust for posting something else.
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Uh..CASE REOPENED
Who is this man in this video (lower right hand corner) who is walking around on the moon without a space suit (bends over to pick something up) who is also NOT an astronaut
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Hugo, did someone on this board actually question the moon landing?
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Hugo, did someone on this board actually question the moon landing?
you're kidding right?
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that there was a set and fake moon landings filmed doesn't mean we didn't land there. There could be other reasons. Even CBS made a fairly elaborate replication of the landing to use. Maybe they felt failure wasn't an option and they were prepared with fake footage in case of failure. Unless they spent the time to duplicate the moon's surface, every crater perfectly, all the right size and shapes perfectly, my first post shows absolutely we landed on the moon. A perfect moon landscape accurately reflecting every crater perfectly would be very hard to recreate, even today, maybe impossible. I just picked the first video to analyze on youtube that was of Apollo 14. I bet I'd find the same thing with each landing.
So to stay with the story that we didn't land on the moon, you have to be saying they were willing to make a perfect and very accurate moonscape in the studio, something that would take years if it could be done AND you have to be also saying that current images taken of the moon showing the Lunar Modules on the moon as well as tracks left are also fake. I would like for those who believe we never landed on the moon to declare these two things....
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you're kidding right?
You?
No Hugo. Say it ain't so! 8)
You're cool anyway. Don't get caught on the grassy Knole or in Area 51 though.. 8)
btw, you should change handle to 'Mulder', hehe..
I saw a nice documentary where every argument about fake moon landing was destroyed.
One claim was the moving flag. and there's no wind on the moon.
but there is no air to stop it either once it starts move.
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This thread should be stickied for absolute brilliance. ;D
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Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm..
http://www.jayweidner.com/ShiningSecrets.html
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This thread should be stickied for absolute brilliance. ;D
no problem :D :D ;D
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no problem :D :D ;D
Thanks!
And remember people...
The case.....
IS CLOSED!!!
We now finally, and I write that with emphasis, after several years of groundbreaking research that has known no boundaries we even joined the Ron Paul Revolution to seek out the truth...
We can finally conclude the final chapter on this extremely important part of US and World history.
USA did actually land on the moon!!!
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EXPLAIN this video Hugo mate!
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EXPLAIN this video Hugo mate!
you first. I mean it's only right and fair to address what I've pointed out before asking an answer to your question.
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you first. I mean it's only right and fair to address what I've pointed out before asking an answer to your question.
oo man...ok then this will hafta to wait till next week....but i promise next sat..my day off i shall give you an in depth analysis!
till then...tis off to teh lib
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oo man...ok then this will hafta to wait till next week....but i promise next sat..my day off i shall give you an in depth analysis!
till then...tis off to teh lib
no problem.
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I'm shocked... There have been plenty here that have expressed doubt in our moon landing. Where are you now to explain where I went wrong in my analysis?
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I'm shocked... There have been plenty here that have expressed doubt in our moon landing. Where are you now to explain where I went wrong in my analysis?
I am still waiting on the explanation to this video. BTW Your analysist is based upon information NASA provided, which of course will make NASA appear truthful in their assertion that there was a MOON MISSION.
THis information says otherwise...NOW, Who is this man walking around on the moon without a space suit?...alien?
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I am still waiting on the explanation to this video. BTW Your analysist is based upon information NASA provided, which of course will make NASA appear truthful in their assertion that there was a MOON MISSION.
THis information says otherwise...NOW, Who is this man walking around on the moon without a space suit?...alien?
A. I avoid talking to you at all costs. B. I did address it: C. I'll tell you the same thing I did toxic. Before you go demanding your own answers, at least have the courtesty to address my analysis instead of ignoring it making it all about you.
that there was a set and fake moon landings filmed doesn't mean we didn't land there. There could be other reasons. Even CBS made a fairly elaborate replication of the landing to use. Maybe they felt failure wasn't an option and they were prepared with fake footage in case of failure. Unless they spent the time to duplicate the moon's surface, every crater perfectly, all the right size and shapes perfectly, my first post shows absolutely we landed on the moon. A perfect moon landscape accurately reflecting every crater perfectly would be very hard to recreate, even today, maybe impossible. I just picked the first video to analyze on youtube that was of Apollo 14. I bet I'd find the same thing with each landing.
So to stay with the story that we didn't land on the moon, you have to be saying they were willing to make a perfect and very accurate moonscape in the studio, something that would take years if it could be done AND you have to be also saying that current images taken of the moon showing the Lunar Modules on the moon as well as tracks left are also fake. I would like for those who believe we never landed on the moon to declare these two things....
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Just did the same with apollo 11.
Screen capture taken just before they land @ 4:34 of the landing:
In the two images below the top image is a recent picture of the moon where Apollo 11 landed. The bottom image is the screen capture from the video above.
The craters match up perfectly, in absolute perfect detail. No way they created a set this good. And again you can see the Lunar Module and its shadow in the recent moon image. Blue line is the flight trajectory.
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Great posting and research Hugo.
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Great posting and research Hugo.
thanks ;D
Score 1 for America ;D
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For this examination of evidence, I’ve decided to treat craters like fingerprints. There are unique patterns to the craters just like a fingerprint is unique. If the moon landing was faked in a studio as all conspiracy theories on this say, then you should not be able to match actual crater patterns exactly to video of the original moon landings. So the challenge for me here was to find the trajectory of the landing and match to images of the moon. As you can see below I found a match. Watch the youtube video of the Apollo 14 landing below. They note that "triplets" are coming up. These are the 3 large craters in the image below. In the video you’ll see them fly over these before landing. So I figured a good place to look for an actual crater fingerprint would be right before they fly over the “triplets.” I did a video capture at 3:14 then found an actual image of that area of the moon to compare.
1. Background of image below is an actual image of the moon.
2. Red outline is a vid capture of the landing @ 3:14
3. Yellow outline on the right was copied to the yellow outline on the left to directly compare for crater fingerprint to moon landing vid capture outlined in red.
4. Craters were outlined to show a pattern match between Apollo 14 landing and actual moon image.
5. Blue line is the flight trajectory and arrow points to the landing where you can see the LM is still there.
6. Pink arrows point to actual tracks left by the astronauts. If you click the image below it’ll open up a larger image and you can even see where the tracks walk around craters.
7. I numbered in red the 3 largest craters of the crater fingerprint I found 1, 2 and 3.
CLICK TO ENLARGE FOR A MUCH LARGER PICTURE
(http://www.imagedonkey.com/out.php?i=31493_moonlandingprooft.jpg) (http://www.imagedonkey.com/out.php?i=31492_moonlandingproof.jpg)
VIDEO OF APOLLO 14 LANDING; Screen capture @ 3:14 is shown above in the red outline.
Radiation exposure would have required Apollo to carry between .6mm - 143mm of protective lead to properly shield our "Moon bound" Astronauts from the Van Allen belt, Cosmic rays and Solar flares.
No human could survive such exposure without said protection.
The Russians understand that, thus no "Moon Landing" from them.
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Radiation exposure would have required Apollo to carry between .6mm - 143mm of protective lead to properly shield our "Moon bound" Astronauts from the Van Allen belt, Cosmic rays and Solar flares.
No human could survive such exposure without said protection.
The Russians understand that, thus no "Moon Landing" from them.
The Van allen Belt non-sense has been refuted many times. Pathetic flawed logic like "the russians understand that, thus no "Moon Landing" from them" is a standard trade mark for idiot CT'ers. Does the fact that Paraguay hasn't gone to the moon either support your stupid ass argument too?
In the plethora of overwhelming evidence we still will still have that embarrassing few that continue to demonstrate just susceptible people can be to fantasy and paranoia.
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you first. I mean it's only right and fair to address what I've pointed out before asking an answer to your question.
ok my video...SHOWS the the astronauts faking the footage.....it actually shows...
what more CAN i say?
i DO think we went to the moon....
just wasn't Buzz or neil and the whole hoopla we saw on the teli
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more importantly
Astronaut Gordon Cooper....
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ok my video...SHOWS the the astronauts faking the footage.....it actually shows...
what more CAN i say?
i DO think we went to the moon....
just wasn't Buzz or neil and the whole hoopla we saw on the teli
so you agree that the evidence I have found shows we landed on the moon, but you just think it wasn't the astronauts we sent that landed on the moon?
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Radiation exposure would have required Apollo to carry between .6mm - 143mm of protective lead to properly shield our "Moon bound" Astronauts from the Van Allen belt, Cosmic rays and Solar flares.
No human could survive such exposure without said protection.
The Russians understand that, thus no "Moon Landing" from them.
No opinion of what I posted?
"The radiation belts are regions of high-energy particles, mainly protons and electrons, held captive by the magnetic influence of the Earth. They have two main sources. A small but very intense "inner belt" (some call it "The Van Allen Belt" because it was discovered in 1958 by James Van Allen of the University of Iowa) is trapped within 4000 miles or or so of the Earth's surface"
"a typical satellite passing the radiation belts (elliptic orbit, 200 miles to 20000 miles) and the radiation dosage per year is about 2500 rem" and how many times does a satelite in that orbit go through the belts to rack up 2500 rems per year? a lot I bet.
http://imagine.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/ask_astro/answers/970228a.html
The Van Allen Belt's Impact on Space Travel
Solar cells, integrated circuits, and sensors can be damaged by radiation. In 1962, the Van Allen belts were temporarily amplified by a high-altitude nuclear explosion (the Starfish Prime test) and several satellites ceased operation.
Magnetic storms occasionally damage electronic components on spacecraft. Miniaturization and digitization of electronics and logic circuits have made satellites more vulnerable to radiation, as incoming ions may be as large as the circuit's charge. Electronics on satellites must be hardened against radiation to operate reliably.
The Hubble Space Telescope, among other satellites, often has its sensors turned off when passing through regions of intense radiation. An object satellite shielded by 3 mm of aluminum will receive about 2500 rem (25 Sv) per year.
Proponents of the Apollo Moon Landing Hoax have argued that space travel to the moon is impossible because the Van Allen radiation would kill or incapacitate an astronaut who made the trip. Van Allen himself, still alive and living in Iowa City, has dismissed these ideas.
In practice, Apollo astronauts who travelled to the moon spent very little time in the belts and received a harmless dose. Nevertheless NASA deliberately timed Apollo launches, and used lunar transfer orbits that only skirted the edge of the belt over the equator to minimise the radiation. Astronauts who visited the moon probably have a slightly higher risk of cancer during their lifetimes, but still remain unlikely to become ill because of it.
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so you agree that the evidence I have found shows we landed on the moon, but you just think it wasn't the astronauts we sent that landed on the moon?
i agree with you and i used to think that before...
someone had to have left mirrors on the moon that we bounce lazers off of
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So Tox,
you think aliens landed on the moon, left the mirror, and we faked the human landing?
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So Tox,
you think aliens landed on the moon, left the mirror, and we faked the human landing?
uttered by Jim Lovell on DECEMBER 25th , 1968 ,yes Christmas day as he cleared the dark side of the moon
089:32:50 Mattingly: Apollo 8, Houston. [No answer.]
089:33:38 Mattingly: Apollo 8, Houston.
089:34:16 Lovell: Houston, Apollo 8, over.
089:34:19 Mattingly: Hello, Apollo 8. Loud and clear.
089:34:25 Lovell: Roger. Please be informed there is a Santa Claus.
089:34:31 Mattingly: That's affirmative. You're the best ones to know.
089:34:37 Lovell: And burn status report: it burned on time; Burn time, 2 minutes, 23 seconds; seven-tenths plus VGX. Attitude nominal, residuals; minus five-tenths VGX, plus four-tenths VGY, minus 0 VGZ; Delta-VC, minus 26.4.
089:35:14 Mattingly: Roger.
089:35:19 Mattingly: Apollo FLIGHT has...
089:35:23 Mattingly: Apollo 8, recomfirm your burn time, please.
089:35:30 Lovell: Roger. We had 2 minutes, 23 seconds. Our - wait one. Stand corrected to that; 3 minutes, 23 seconds.
089:35:43 Mattingly: Thank you. [Long pause.]
Public Affairs Officer - "This is Mission Control, Houston. Flight Dynamics Officer says that burn is good."
i've posted the video "sceret space" "the disclosure project" and " The case of the NASA UFos from google video plenty of times to re post em :-\
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2 mins..watch
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Lovell, didn't utter anything conclusive.
Anything other bits or video along the lines of the one you just posted?
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ok for the LAST time
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=302485.0 <- short vid...just a general synopsis on what i think might be true
Evidence : case of the NASA UFO part 1 and 2 Long but a VERY MUST watch..hosted by physicist david sereda
THIS IS NASA FOOTAGE
http://www.guba.com/watch/3000113495/The-Case-For-NASA-UFOs-PART-1
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8524267568796529301&ei=HMvbSt6XCaiSqgKr1bDMCQ&q=NASA+ufo&hl=en#
The Disclosure Project : govt officials testifying
The greatest Story Ever denied : entertaining vid if u have the time
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5980990221766439646&ei=YcvbSui5NpHuqgKq_oTiAQ&q=the+greatest+story+ever+denied&hl=en#
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how did this turn into talk of alien ufos? I actually think there is a great chance there are real ufos. If I had to side I would say we have been visted but what the hell does that have to do with the issue of us landing on the moon or not?
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how did this turn into talk of alien ufos? I actually think there is a great chance there are real ufos. If I had to side I would say we have been visted but what the hell does that have to do with the issue of us landing on the moon or not?
this is why
http://www.subversiveelement.com/UFO_Moon_Base.html
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unless you can debunk what i've shown, the best case you can hope to make is that they're both true. which means we landed on the moon... case closed
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You've shown us all FAKE video :o :o :o, so it was DEBUNKED by showing REAL VIDEO.... of the fake moon landing...
CASE CLOSED
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You've shown us all FAKE video :o :o :o, so it was DEBUNKED by showing REAL VIDEO.... of the fake moon landing...
CASE CLOSED
::)
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dunno if this is the right place....but thought folks in this thread would be interested in this trailer
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I guess hijacking the thread is one way to prove we didn't land on the moon. I'm not sure I get how ::)
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I guess hijacking the thread is one way to prove we didn't land on the moon. I'm not sure I get how ::)
i SAID i agree that we landed ya fucker >:(
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I guess hijacking the thread is one way to prove we didn't land on the moon. I'm not sure I get how ::)
i SAID i agree that we landed ya fucker >:(
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i SAID i agree that we landed ya fucker >:(
sorry toxic, I got no beef with you personally. You're good in my book. Just didn't want the thread to get derailed into ufo disscussion. There's others I'd like to see address the issue. I'm also still not quite sure what you mean by us landing on the moon. I'm a little lost as it kinda sounded like you meant that our astronauts didn't land on the moon but we did land on the moon with the apollo missions? were you saying that our astronauts didn't actually do down to the surface and get out and walk around the moon? I'm lost on that part of what you've said.
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sorry toxic, I got no beef with you personally. You're good in my book. Just didn't want the thread to get derailed into ufo disscussion. There's others I'd like to see address the issue. I'm also still not quite sure what you mean by us landing on the moon. I'm a little lost as it kinda sounded like you meant that our astronauts didn't land on the moon but we did land on the moon with the apollo missions? were you saying that our astronauts didn't actually do down to the surface and get out and walk around the moon? I'm lost on that part of what you've said.
NASA DID NOT go to the moon
NACA did...if ya had actually watched this vid mang
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Advisory_Committee_for_Aeronautics
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=302485.0 <vid>
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NACA started talking about space flight in 1915
http://history.nasa.gov/SP-4406/chap1.html
it DOES tie into UFOs
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1. Ok, I just looked through all that and watched the video. Please show me where I missed the part that shows NACA went to the moon? I didn't see that anywhere in what you provided?
2. So you don't believe any of the NASA Apollo missions went to and landed on the moon? None of the astronauts that went on Apollo missions actually stepped foot on the moon?
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1. Ok, I just looked through all that and watched the video. Please show me where I missed the part that shows NACA went to the moon? I didn't see that anywhere in what you provided?
NACA ws created in 1915...
2. So you don't believe any of the NASA Apollo missions went to and landed on the moon? None of the astronauts that went on Apollo missions actually stepped foot on the moon?
no i dont think so...
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NACA ws created in 1915...
1. how does that prove they went to the moon but NASA didn't?
no i dont think so...
2. Then you have some explaining to do with what I found in my original post.
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1. how does that prove they went to the moon but NASA didn't?2. Then you have some explaining to do with what I found in my original post.
There are unique patterns to the craters just like a fingerprint is unique. If the moon landing was faked in a studio as all conspiracy theories on this say, then you should not be able to match actual crater patterns exactly to video of the original moon landings. So the challenge for me here was to find the trajectory of the landing and match to images of the moon.
if you can figure it out.....they already thought if it :-\
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_11_missing_tapes
The Apollo 11 missing tapes are the missing slow-scan television (SSTV) recordings of the lunar transmissions broadcast during the Apollo 11 moonwalk, the first time astronauts walked on the Moon. The tapes carried SSTV and telemetry data recorded onto analog data recording tape. A real-time conversion from SSTV format to standard TV format was needed, to allow transmission of the broadcast on standard television. Tapes of the Apollo 11 moonwalk SSTV signal before the scan conversion are missing and are believed to have been erased and reused
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if you can figure it out.....they already thought if it :-\
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_11_missing_tapes
The Apollo 11 missing tapes are the missing slow-scan television (SSTV) recordings of the lunar transmissions broadcast during the Apollo 11 moonwalk, the first time astronauts walked on the Moon. The tapes carried SSTV and telemetry data recorded onto analog data recording tape. A real-time conversion from SSTV format to standard TV format was needed, to allow transmission of the broadcast on standard television. Tapes of the Apollo 11 moonwalk SSTV signal before the scan conversion are missing and are believed to have been erased and reused
This isn't a legitimate answer to my questions.
1. How does what you presented in any way shape or form demonstrate that NACA and not NASA went to the moon?
2. How do you discount the evidense I found in my first post? What you just posted does not in any way shape or form do that.
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case closed. not counting Samson's just saying the sat images are faked, nobody had an explanation
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anybody.... please anybody feel like desputing the facts i've presented? anybody.... nope......
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anytime you want to address this moon hoax cowards....
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hahahhahahaha
:o ;D :D
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hahahhahahaha
:o ;D :D
I've fixed the broken image in the first post. check it out. The deniers will not be able to argue against it. The best they have done so far is just to say it's fake lol...
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dump...
ohh, I mean bump.... ;D
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Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm..
http://www.jayweidner.com/ShiningSecrets.html
Real cool. Kubrick was a genius