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Title: "Evil" is a stronger force than "Good"?
Post by: Parker on April 27, 2013, 05:20:00 PM
All good people have to do, is be consistent, yet many times nobody really gives a damn about how good you are. And evil people often run over good folks like a Mack truck hitting a deer...
Good people are often exploited, far more than evil people are pursecuted. 

All evil people have to worry about is a few good people standing up to them...but usually evil people tend to get their way for awhile, how ever long...
They tend to enjoy the riches, the pleasures of world...yet good people are content with the scraps.
Look at the governments of today's world---one could say each one is a hotbed of subversive evil.

Are there degrees of evilness and goodness? And where do they cross?
Title: Re: "Evil" is a stronger force than "Good"?
Post by: Radical Plato on April 27, 2013, 05:24:58 PM
All good people have to do, is be consistent, yet many times nobody really gives a damn about how good you are. And evil people often run over good folks like a Mack truck hitting a deer...
Good people are often exploited, far more than evil people are pursecuted.  

All evil people have to worry about is a few good people standing up to them...but usually evil people tend to get their way for awhile, how ever long...
They tend to enjoy the riches, the pleasures of world...yet good people are content with the scraps.
Look at the governments of today's world---one could say each one is a hotbed of subversive evil.

Are there degrees of evilness and goodness? And where do they cross?
Interdasting !!!  Yes, you are right,  EVIL dominates Goodness.  Look at the Tibetan Buddhists, happily preaching a non violent hippy love philosophy, they thought that practising non-violence is the way to go and look were that got them.  Arse fucked hard and perhaps ironically  there has been more violence as a result.  Monks to this day are still burning themselves to death in protest.  I think what needs to happen is for good people to accept that they will have to fight EVIL bastards on there own terms, their is no other way.  So, in summary you behave yourself, but if some evil fuckers come along to bully you, you fight fire with fire, you show them no mercy and kill or be killed.  Just my two cents worth.

It's the human races aggression that has seen it become the Number One predator, so I don't think we can eliminate our violent nature without sliding down the food chain.  
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Title: Re: "Evil" is a stronger force than "Good"?
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 27, 2013, 05:32:14 PM
Nice guys finish last in this world maybe in the next life maybe first. Look at what happened to Jesus.
Title: Re: "Evil" is a stronger force than "Good"?
Post by: dj181 on April 27, 2013, 05:36:09 PM
but the thing is, these bad guys pay the price within thier own souls
Title: Re: "Evil" is a stronger force than "Good"?
Post by: tu_holmes on April 27, 2013, 05:37:45 PM
Only if you are emperor palpatine.
Title: Re: "Evil" is a stronger force than "Good"?
Post by: Radical Plato on April 27, 2013, 05:39:54 PM
but the thing is, these bad guys pay the price within thier own souls
No they don't, that's just wishful thinking, similar to believing in KARMA.  It's what good people do to make themselves feel better about injustice.
Title: Re: "Evil" is a stronger force than "Good"?
Post by: Radical Plato on April 27, 2013, 05:40:45 PM
Nice guys finish last in this world maybe in the next life maybe first. Look at what happened to Jesus.
What happened to Jesus ?
Title: Re: "Evil" is a stronger force than "Good"?
Post by: dj181 on April 27, 2013, 05:45:19 PM
No they don't, that's just wishful thinking, similar to believing in KARMA.  It's what good people do to make themselves feel better about injustice.

so you think that these bad people are truly happy and experience real and true joy?

i ain't buying it dude
Title: Re: "Evil" is a stronger force than "Good"?
Post by: tbombz on April 27, 2013, 05:45:44 PM
FIRST=

Evil is a misnomer in my opinion.

I think there are only misguided behaviors, and no such thing as evil.


________________________ ________________________ __________


SECOND=

There is life and there is harmony and there is progress in the universe.

This means that "Good" must be at least as strong a force as "bad", if not stronger (in order to cause progress and not just stagnation)

________________________ ________________________ ________________________ ________________________ ____________________


THIRD=

The events of this world are not of eternal significance to those who fail to achieve righteousness. They start over anew again and again untill they finally get it right.

If "bad" is winning the battle on earth, it is a meaningless victory in a war they cant possibly win.


 8)
Title: Re: "Evil" is a stronger force than "Good"?
Post by: Psychopath on April 27, 2013, 05:46:21 PM
Shit happens.
Title: Re: "Evil" is a stronger force than "Good"?
Post by: Natural Man on April 27, 2013, 05:49:21 PM
what matters is survival. Everyone will justify the way they re surviving saying it's the good way, while the others are "evil anyway".
Title: Re: "Evil" is a stronger force than "Good"?
Post by: Radical Plato on April 27, 2013, 05:50:48 PM
so you think that these bad people are truly happy and experience real and true joy?

i ain't buying it dude
What makes you think good people are truly happy and experience real and true joy?  happiness is irrelevant.  I don't even now why you bring it up.  And you suggested evil people pay a price with their souls, I assume you mean racked with some type of overwhelming conscience destroying guilt.  Well they don't. That's what good people feel like when they commit terrible deeds.  If anything EVIL people have the advantage, they aren't burdened by complex emotions.  Good people avoid evil actions because they don't want to experience such negative emotions.  Evil people have no such disadvantage.
Title: Re: "Evil" is a stronger force than "Good"?
Post by: Marty Champions on April 27, 2013, 05:54:00 PM
All good people have to do, is be consistent, yet many times nobody really gives a damn about how good you are. And evil people often run over good folks like a Mack truck hitting a deer...
Good people are often exploited, far more than evil people are pursecuted. 

All evil people have to worry about is a few good people standing up to them...but usually evil people tend to get their way for awhile, how ever long...
They tend to enjoy the riches, the pleasures of world...yet good people are content with the scraps.
Look at the governments of today's world---one could say each one is a hotbed of subversive evil.

Are there degrees of evilness and goodness? And where do they cross?
alot of truth in this post

but if i left my response at just that you wouldnt notice

proof that an intelligent injection of the devil is needed
Title: Re: "Evil" is a stronger force than "Good"?
Post by: Radical Plato on April 27, 2013, 05:54:03 PM
FIRST=

Evil is a misnomer in my opinion.

I think there are only misguided behaviors, and no such thing as evil.


________________________ ________________________ __________


SECOND=

There is life and there is harmony and there is progress in the universe.

This means that "Good" must be at least as strong a force as "bad", if not stronger (in order to cause progress and not just stagnation)

________________________ ________________________ ________________________ ________________________ ____________________


THIRD=

The events of this world are not of eternal significance to those who fail to achieve righteousness. They start over anew again and again untill they finally get it right.

If "bad" is winning the battle on earth, it is a meaningless victory in a war they cant possibly win.


 8)
FIRST - You are disturbingly naive, the obvious result of a spolied first word lifestyle
SECOND - There is no progress, just a slow eroding of resources until eventual oblivion, we are not progressing, but regressing
THIRD - More wishful thinking that good people use to console themselves to reality.
Title: Re: "Evil" is a stronger force than "Good"?
Post by: dj181 on April 27, 2013, 05:55:42 PM
What makes you think good people are truly happy and experience real and true joy?  happiness is irrelevant.  I don't even now why you bring it up.  And you suggested evil people pay a price with their souls, I assume you mean racked with some type of overwhelming conscience destroying guilt.  Well the don't that's what good people feel like when they commit terrible deeds.  If anything EVIL people have the advantage, they aren't burdened by complex emotions.  Good people avoid evil actions because they don't want to experience such negative emotions.  Evil people have no such disadvantage.

happiness is irrelevant ???

if you really feel that way then i feel sorry for you dude
Title: Re: "Evil" is a stronger force than "Good"?
Post by: Marty Champions on April 27, 2013, 05:57:35 PM
what it all boils down to is the karma inflicted upon wich vessel you wish to inject your mushroom tip into at the end of the day, this karma will be the drama that shapes your persona, the karma is then tallied at end of life

this is the fate of normal people
Title: Re: "Evil" is a stronger force than "Good"?
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 27, 2013, 06:05:18 PM
Hershell Walker had multiple personalities, were some evil and some nice?
Title: Re: "Evil" is a stronger force than "Good"?
Post by: Hugo Chavez on April 27, 2013, 06:09:09 PM
All good people have to do, is be consistent, yet many times nobody really gives a damn about how good you are. And evil people often run over good folks like a Mack truck hitting a deer...
Good people are often exploited, far more than evil people are pursecuted.  

All evil people have to worry about is a few good people standing up to them...but usually evil people tend to get their way for awhile, how ever long...
They tend to enjoy the riches, the pleasures of world...yet good people are content with the scraps.
Look at the governments of today's world---one could say each one is a hotbed of subversive evil.

Are there degrees of evilness and goodness? And where do they cross?
good post, good question.  Notice how evil gets rewarded over good too...  We watch business/financial practices happen all the time in the world where it's very obvious those seeking to profit didn't give a rats ass about the ramifications their plan, product or scheme would have on other people.  They do it because they can and they beat other people to it and they don't give a fuck who gets trampled or ruined in the process.  A person or business who spends time considering in sincerity how (what they want to do will effect others) is a model for disaster because the people who don't give a rat's ass about others are the ones who exploit every avenue and leave the good guy who cared about his actions in the dust wondering WTF just happened.

No idea where evil crosses good, I just know evil usually wins.
Title: Re: "Evil" is a stronger force than "Good"?
Post by: Natural Man on April 27, 2013, 06:09:55 PM
hapiness at all cost is a bullshit ideology of our modern wicked times, we re not meant to be "constantly" happy, life is about more than that, fact is to be happy and deserve things you have to bust your ass first. It's just impossible to always be happy, but it's easier for people who were loved by their parents and raised at the top of the pyramid instead of its bottom or even middle. These people grow happy and fulfiled, and somehow motivate others to follow their lead, while losers always follow losers. As you reach your 30s you figure that most people who whine all day long do so because they re unhappy with their own mistakes and problems they simply cant get over. Everything and everyone is always exactly where it should be.
Title: Re: "Evil" is a stronger force than "Good"?
Post by: Radical Plato on April 27, 2013, 06:13:09 PM
happiness is irrelevant ???

if you really feel that way then i feel sorry for you dude
Morality isn't about happiness, if anything being moral is more likely to cause misery.  I have no doubt that Hitler enjoyed a far better quality of life than the vast majority of morally superior individuals.  And if you are living your life chasing happiness, you are doomed to be miserable.    Happiness is just as detrimental to ones well being as sadness.  It upsets equilibrium.  A far better state of being is one of contentment (for want of a better word - in between happiness and sadness)

Sanity and happiness are an impossible combination - Mark twain
Title: Re: "Evil" is a stronger force than "Good"?
Post by: Marty Champions on April 27, 2013, 06:16:13 PM
hapiness at all cost is a bullshit ideology of our modern wicked times, we re not meant to be "constantly" happy, life is about more than that, fact is to be happy and deserve things you have to bust your ass first. It's just impossible to always be happy, but it's easier for people who were loved by their parents and raised at the top of the pyramid instead of its bottom or even middle. These people grow happy and fulfiled, and somehow motivate others to follow their lead, while losers always follow losers. As you reach your 30s you figure that most people who whine all day long do so because they re unhappy with their own mistakes and problems they simply cant get over. Everything and everyone is always exactly where it should be.

wat is life other than working and the karma you get from which vessel you insert your mushroom tip into?
Title: Re: "Evil" is a stronger force than "Good"?
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 27, 2013, 06:19:37 PM
wat is life other than working and the karma you get from which vessel you insert your mushroom tip into?
All I see is just working, busting up fine hoes, being nice to people top 3. Then variations to the rest.
Title: Re: "Evil" is a stronger force than "Good"?
Post by: Radical Plato on April 27, 2013, 06:20:23 PM
wat is life other than working and the karma you get from which vessel you insert your mushroom tip into?
I dare say you are happy, you are one of the most insane individuals I have come across.  Nothing you ever say makes any sense at all.  This is what I think about whenever I read one of your posts.

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Title: Re: "Evil" is a stronger force than "Good"?
Post by: Marty Champions on April 27, 2013, 06:25:58 PM
I dare say you are happy, you are one of the most insane individuals I have come across.  Nothing you ever say makes any sense at all.  This is what I think about whenever I read one of your posts.

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m64ra5Is1T1qbpsiqo1_500.jpg)


cut me some slack jack

life is what your day consists of
i may have left out taking a shit and leaving a piss
and eating
then you have
working
and inserting your mushroom tip
then if your honest or dishonest

thats all life is. its worth prolonging, the risk of ignoring the boundaries you are contained in could mean trouble
Title: Re: "Evil" is a stronger force than "Good"?
Post by: erics on April 27, 2013, 06:26:47 PM
so you think that these bad people are truly happy and experience real and true joy?

i ain't buying it dude

These people may not be experiencing 'true joy' but it doesn't matter.

They don't know about it and so aren't concerned.

A psychologically and emotionally aware person will be able to see how these 'bad' people are suffering through their actions but compared with the visible effects of violence, abuse etc, it is basically nothing.
Title: Re: "Evil" is a stronger force than "Good"?
Post by: The Scott on April 27, 2013, 06:27:27 PM
All good people have to do, is be consistent, yet many times nobody really gives a damn about how good you are. And evil people often run over good folks like a Mack truck hitting a deer...
Good people are often exploited, far more than evil people are pursecuted. 

All evil people have to worry about is a few good people standing up to them...but usually evil people tend to get their way for awhile, how ever long...
They tend to enjoy the riches, the pleasures of world...yet good people are content with the scraps.
Look at the governments of today's world---one could say each one is a hotbed of subversive evil.

Are there degrees of evilness and goodness? And where do they cross?

As someone I know once said to me, "Active evil is more powerful than passive good."
Title: Re: "Evil" is a stronger force than "Good"?
Post by: Parker on April 27, 2013, 06:28:10 PM
As someone I know once said to me, "Active evil is more powerful than passive good."
Amen.
Title: Re: "Evil" is a stronger force than "Good"?
Post by: Radical Plato on April 27, 2013, 06:28:24 PM
happiness is irrelevant ???

if you really feel that way then i feel sorry for you dude
Happiness is similar to growing a garden.  You have to choose the right location, then cultivate and fertilise the soil, plant viable seeds for the right season, regularly weed the garden, eliminate pests and disease, and pray for rain, sun and no severe weather.  So although we play a part in the cultivation of the garden, there are too many outside variables that can destroy it.  In other words, there is no guarantees to happiness in life, there are just too many outside forces that can steal it away from you.  Best to develop a stoical attitude that sees you ride securely through stormy waters, accept the ups and downs and come to terms with your own death. JMO
Title: Re: "Evil" is a stronger force than "Good"?
Post by: _bruce_ on April 27, 2013, 06:28:39 PM
Earth is the devil's playground.
Title: Re: "Evil" is a stronger force than "Good"?
Post by: Marty Champions on April 27, 2013, 06:30:58 PM
All I see is just working, busting up fine hoes, being nice to people top 3. Then variations to the rest.

thats all , its worth enjoying and perserving at all costs thats all you have

instead of being nice to people i just like to be brutally honest and try to humor them, my being honest will turn people off but my humor can bring them back, to me thats the most logical way to coordinate my actions it betters people and is contagious in a good way

that crack head "friend" of mine whom i havent talked to in months would rather me just be "nice"
that dude gets madly offended when im honest wich includes lecturing, the humor doesnt work because my lecturings can be brutal  :D,
Title: Re: "Evil" is a stronger force than "Good"?
Post by: Radical Plato on April 27, 2013, 06:31:10 PM
cut me some slack jack

life is what your day consists of
i may have left out taking a shit and leaving a piss
and eating
then you have
working
and inserting your mushroom tip
then if your honest or dishonest

thats all life is. its worth prolonging, the risk of ignoring the boundaries you are contained in could mean trouble
I still have no idea what you are banging on about.  But your philosophy seems to be working for you, so that's all that matters I suppose.
Title: Re: "Evil" is a stronger force than "Good"?
Post by: Marty Champions on April 27, 2013, 06:36:54 PM
I still have no idea what you are banging on about.  But your philosophy seems to be working for you, so that's all that matters I suppose.

parker is saying evil is a stronger force than good

im saying what ails me is what is life: eating, shitting, working , insert , sleep

the what is even or good has to be left to the mathmeticians

some of the evil you see might actually be saving your life, or happening there so its not happening to you here

as odd as life is it must be explored in odd entanglements
Title: Re: "Evil" is a stronger force than "Good"?
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 27, 2013, 06:41:50 PM
thats all , its worth enjoying and perserving at all costs thats all you have

instead of being nice to people i just like to be brutally honest and try to humor them, my being honest will turn people off but my humor can bring them back, to me thats the most logical way to coordinate my actions it betters people and is contagious in a good way

that crack head "friend" of mine whom i havent talked to in months would rather me just be "nice"
that dude gets madly offended when im honest wich includes lecturing, the humor doesnt work because my lecturings can be brutal  :D,
Exactly. Addicts don't like honesy most blame their addiction on someone else, instead of looking at themselves. I gave out some change today at the gas station.
Title: Re: "Evil" is a stronger force than "Good"?
Post by: Radical Plato on April 27, 2013, 06:42:37 PM
parker is saying evil is a stronger force than good

im saying what ails me is what is life: eating, shitting, working , insert , sleep

the what is even or good has to be left to the mathmeticians

some of the evil you see might actually be saving your life, or happening there so its not happening to you here

as odd as life is it must be explored in odd entanglements
Let me see if I understand.  So learning the best way to live is of current importance to you and the deeper questions of ethics and morality are better left to science  and even though evil appears to be a negative force, it may well be a balancing force and even do the world some good.  Like taking bad tasting medicine to eliminate an illness.
Title: Re: "Evil" is a stronger force than "Good"?
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on April 27, 2013, 07:04:42 PM
Hershell Walker had multiple personalities, were some evil and some nice?

one was natural and one was juiced to the gills
Title: Re: "Evil" is a stronger force than "Good"?
Post by: The True Adonis on April 27, 2013, 07:06:39 PM
hapiness at all cost is a bullshit ideology of our modern wicked times, we re not meant to be "constantly" happy, life is about more than that, fact is to be happy and deserve things you have to bust your ass first. It's just impossible to always be happy, but it's easier for people who were loved by their parents and raised at the top of the pyramid instead of its bottom or even middle. These people grow happy and fulfiled, and somehow motivate others to follow their lead, while losers always follow losers. As you reach your 30s you figure that most people who whine all day long do so because they re unhappy with their own mistakes and problems they simply cant get over. Everything and everyone is always exactly where it should be.
A little autobiographical there, don`t you think Raymond?  ;)
Title: Re: "Evil" is a stronger force than "Good"?
Post by: muscularny on April 27, 2013, 07:32:59 PM
who decided whats good and whats evil?
Title: Re: "Evil" is a stronger force than "Good"?
Post by: Tapeworm on April 27, 2013, 07:35:00 PM
I'm the decidor.
Title: Re: "Evil" is a stronger force than "Good"?
Post by: The Ugly on April 27, 2013, 07:42:30 PM
what it all boils down to is the karma inflicted upon wich vessel you wish to inject your mushroom tip into at the end of the day, this karma will be the drama that shapes your persona, the karma is then tallied at end of life

this is the fate of normal people

Karma is bullshit, Johnny.
Title: Re: "Evil" is a stronger force than "Good"?
Post by: Voice of Doom on April 27, 2013, 07:57:22 PM
A man ought to do what he think's is right - John Wayne
Title: Re: "Evil" is a stronger force than "Good"?
Post by: bodyofsteel on April 27, 2013, 08:02:37 PM
The strongest proof for good is that humans evolved with communal traits and empathy. The psychopaths either died out or were relegated to a tiny % of the genetic population.

Of course that tiny % of evil might make a comeback thanks to their use of technology to enslave the rest of us.
Title: Re: "Evil" is a stronger force than "Good"?
Post by: arce1988 on April 27, 2013, 08:31:51 PM
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  What God?
Title: Re: "Evil" is a stronger force than "Good"?
Post by: Marty Champions on April 27, 2013, 08:33:07 PM
Karma is bullshit, Johnny.

karma is forseeable and unseen as well . its inherent force in built within this matrix somehow, and probably doesnt need a god to eforce it , since the plan is implemented so well
Title: Re: "Evil" is a stronger force than "Good"?
Post by: Marty Champions on April 27, 2013, 08:34:08 PM
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  What God?
that little feller died so 5 white man can live  :-X
Title: Re: "Evil" is a stronger force than "Good"?
Post by: The Scott on April 27, 2013, 09:02:04 PM
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  What God?

Don't blame God for what man does for even when man does something in the "name of God", he does it for himself.  If what we believe of God is true, He "needs" nothing from us.  Men do wrong for their own sake, for their own desires.

Could God have stopped it from happening?  I suppose so. But then so could the men who did the deed.  People are always looking for an excuse for their behavior and in the end you cannot stand before your creator and say, "I was told to do thus", or "I had no choice but to do as I was told".

Of course by the tone of your words and the context in which they are stated it appears that you believe in nothing, i.e., are an Atheist.  In accordance with that point of view you should not even have included "God"  in your post save sarcastically, which is exactly what you did.

We are responsible for ourselves.  Even the smartest Atheist I ever personally knew recognized that truth.  Why this simple fact escapes you is not beyond me.  Nor you.

Be well.
Title: Re: "Evil" is a stronger force than "Good"?
Post by: arce1988 on April 27, 2013, 09:03:24 PM
  Again I ask... What God?
Title: Re: "Evil" is a stronger force than "Good"?
Post by: The Scott on April 27, 2013, 09:11:28 PM
  Again I ask... What God?

"Sigh"... Deep thoughts, there eh?

I suppose I should condense my thoughts for you in an attempt to make it easy.  Here goes -

Men do naughty things because men want to take that which other men have, up to and including their freedom and thier lives.  The honest truth of whether or not there is a "God" will only be answered upon our individual deaths.

Try not to bore us all to a premature one.

As you say, again.  Be well.

Title: Re: "Evil" is a stronger force than "Good"?
Post by: arce1988 on April 27, 2013, 09:32:36 PM
  Thank you Scott.
Title: Re: "Evil" is a stronger force than "Good"?
Post by: Parker on April 27, 2013, 09:43:07 PM
good post, good question.  Notice how evil gets rewarded over good too...  We watch business/financial practices happen all the time in the world where it's very obvious those seeking to profit didn't give a rats ass about the ramifications their plan, product or scheme would have on other people.  They do it because they can and they beat other people to it and they don't give a fuck who gets trampled or ruined in the process.  A person or business who spends time considering in sincerity how (what they want to do will effect others) is a model for disaster because the people who don't give a rat's ass about others are the ones who exploit every avenue and leave the good guy who cared about his actions in the dust wondering WTF just happened.

No idea where evil crosses good, I just know evil usually wins.
Exactly...so, these people, businesses, corp, are rewarded day in and day out, and many use unscrupulous business tactics. And what's even ironic is when these people who do this have the same thing done to them, and then they whine and complain. What's that, oh "do unto others, as you wish others to do unto you"?

As E-kul had eluded to, "Evil" people tend to take more risks in doing harm unto others, because they care not about the retribution or reprocussions of their actions. Whereas good people, do care about them.
So, i guess it must be said, that if one has to deal with people who are "evil", on emust adopt the mentality of "it takes a devil to beat a devil"....

But, where does that path take one? Will it be a sort of "the road to hell is often paved by good intentions"?  

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Title: Re: "Evil" is a stronger force than "Good"?
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on April 27, 2013, 09:56:30 PM
The strongest proof for good is that humans evolved with communal traits and empathy. The psychopaths either died out or were relegated to a tiny % of the genetic population.

Of course that tiny % of evil might make a comeback thanks to their use of technology to enslave the rest of us.

Its estimated that 1 out of 24 people are sociopaths...That's a shitload of humans who don't have the ability to have empathy. And those mofos are running the matrix.
Title: Re: "Evil" is a stronger force than "Good"?
Post by: f450 on April 27, 2013, 10:31:54 PM
Its estimated that 1 out of 24 people are sociopaths...That's a shitload of humans who don't have the ability to have empathy. And those mofos are running the matrix.
source? that seems like way too high a percentage
Title: Re: "Evil" is a stronger force than "Good"?
Post by: Parker on April 27, 2013, 10:37:46 PM
Its estimated that 1 out of 24 people are sociopaths...That's a shitload of humans who don't have the ability to have empathy. And those mofos are running the matrix.
Didn't Groink say that there were only a handful (like 2 or 3) of people he cared about, and the rest he couldn't give a damn about?
Title: Re: "Evil" is a stronger force than "Good"?
Post by: Seven Copper Coins on April 27, 2013, 11:18:51 PM
so you think that these bad people are truly happy and experience real and true joy?

i ain't buying it dude

It's like this. You see that girl in your avatar ? Some guy that doesn't give a fuck about her and has an assload of Money from being ruthless in business is pounding the shit out of her right now. While Mr nice guy you is expressing his feelings and writing poetry.
Title: Re: "Evil" is a stronger force than "Good"?
Post by: Psychopath on April 27, 2013, 11:20:07 PM
It's like this. You see that girl in your avatar ? Some guy that doesn't give a fuck about her and has an assload of Money from being ruthless in business is pounding the shit out of her right now. While Mr nice guy you is expressing his feelings and writing poetry.


x2.
Title: Re: "Evil" is a stronger force than "Good"?
Post by: kofo on April 27, 2013, 11:23:26 PM
If you could be a king, would you be good or bad ?

Would you be a fat king living in your castle oppressing, killing and torturing your people, forcing yourself upon women beeing hated by everyone ?

Or

A strong Spartacus like king, fighting in the frontline to defend your people, beein loved by everyone.

Why do so many choose to be bad ?
Title: Re: "Evil" is a stronger force than "Good"?
Post by: dj181 on April 28, 2013, 12:11:32 AM
These people may not be experiencing 'true joy' but it doesn't matter.

They don't know about it and so aren't concerned.

A psychologically and emotionally aware person will be able to see how these 'bad' people are suffering through their actions but compared with the visible effects of violence, abuse etc, it is basically nothing.

very good post
Title: Re: "Evil" is a stronger force than "Good"?
Post by: dj181 on April 28, 2013, 12:14:02 AM
Happiness is similar to growing a garden.  You have to choose the right location, then cultivate and fertilise the soil, plant viable seeds for the right season, regularly weed the garden, eliminate pests and disease, and pray for rain, sun and no severe weather.  So although we play a part in the cultivation of the garden, there are too many outside variables that can destroy it.  In other words, there is no guarantees to happiness in life, there are just too many outside forces that can steal it away from you.  Best to develop a stoical attitude that sees you ride securely through stormy waters, accept the ups and downs and come to terms with your own death. JMO

yep, happiness is about ACCEPTANCE and that's for damn sure

p.s. only an insane individual who does not live in reality expects to be happy all the time
Title: Re: "Evil" is a stronger force than "Good"?
Post by: Jovo on April 28, 2013, 12:24:04 AM
Didn't Groink say that there were only a handful (like 2 or 3) of people he cared about, and the rest he couldn't give a damn about?

So what ? that's quite a bit still people he cares about.

I couldn't give a shit about any one apart from my self, i can lie and pretend i do, but i don't. I think most people are like me actually. Only difference is they lie to cover them selves. All it comes down to is who and what you can use to enhance your own life. IMHO.

you either fuck or get fucked, There's no inbetween.
Title: Re: "Evil" is a stronger force than "Good"?
Post by: Parker on April 28, 2013, 01:26:06 AM
So what ? that's quite a bit still people he cares about.

I couldn't give a shit about any one apart from my self, i can lie and pretend i do, but i don't. I think most people are like me actually. Only difference is they lie to cover them selves. All it comes down to is who and what you can use to enhance your own life. IMHO.

you either fuck or get fucked, There's no inbetween.
And that is part of the reason wh the US is the way it is...nobody gives damn.
Title: Re: "Evil" is a stronger force than "Good"?
Post by: Jovo on April 28, 2013, 02:28:58 AM
And that is part of the reason wh the US is the way it is...nobody gives damn.

meh, the whole world has been falling apart since the day man learned to talk.

life is shit and always has been, if you let it.
Title: Re: "Evil" is a stronger force than "Good"?
Post by: Parker on April 28, 2013, 02:34:06 AM
meh, the whole world has been falling apart since the day man learned to talk.

life is shit and always has been, if you let it.
I think that things for the US have gone to ish, no since of community, responsibility..and "I can do whatever i want, and there are no consequences for my actions"...yet these same people want your help after they done created their mess.
We see it from the highest levels of government business, all the way down to how people raise their kids..

0 Phvcks given.
Title: Re: "Evil" is a stronger force than "Good"?
Post by: tbombz on April 29, 2013, 11:13:23 PM
we had been losing our sense of connectedness to nature and connectedness to each other.

but we are starting to gain an awareness of our universal energy and its singular nature.

things feel very messed up and barbaric and unevolved; not because they are getting worse or because they havent gotten better, but because we have become aware of the way things should be better.

we are losing the pride we once would feel about things outside our control (heritage, race/ethnicity, national origin, wealth of parents/inheritance, name, facial/bone structure, etc)

less people celebrate the soldier and more people disagree with glorifying violent retribution.

people are beginning to value independent thought, question the men of power, and fewer trust authority for authority's sake

things are getting better.
Title: Re: "Evil" is a stronger force than "Good"?
Post by: arce1988 on April 29, 2013, 11:16:29 PM
“Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones.”

Marcus A.
Title: Re: "Evil" is a stronger force than "Good"?
Post by: Rami on April 29, 2013, 11:19:13 PM
Evil people are often dominated and suffering. They are dominated by their reptile brain that pushes them. It makes them dependent on world riches and are not relaxed / happy any more.

But this can probably happen to some people and they remain to stay good.
Title: Re: "Evil" is a stronger force than "Good"?
Post by: Kwon_2 on April 29, 2013, 11:24:04 PM
Opportunists and those that can Dominate others usually go further in life.
Title: Re: "Evil" is a stronger force than "Good"?
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 29, 2013, 11:28:35 PM
Good ALWAYS trumps evil either or in the end. Evil people (people with no faith, atheists and liberals) are the most miserable people I've ever came across. Being that miserableequates to failure in the end and struggling through life being....miserable. Being miserable leads to stress, stress leads to an early death. That being said, there are some miserable mother fuckers on here and you can those are the ones with the dumbass replies. Haha
Title: Re: "Evil" is a stronger force than "Good"?
Post by: arce1988 on April 29, 2013, 11:30:59 PM
The Lord of Darkness: You think you have won!? What is light with OUT dark?! What are you with OUT me?! I am a part of you ALL! You can NEVER defeat me! We are brothers ETERNAL!


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Title: Re: "Evil" is a stronger force than "Good"?
Post by: tu_holmes on June 07, 2013, 07:42:13 PM
Good ALWAYS trumps evil either or in the end. Evil people (people with no faith, atheists and liberals) are the most miserable people I've ever came across. Being that miserableequates to failure in the end and struggling through life being....miserable. Being miserable leads to stress, stress leads to an early death. That being said, there are some miserable mother fuckers on here and you can those are the ones with the dumbass replies. Haha

Do you consider me Evil Joe? I'm an Atheist and I don't consider myself an evil person. Nor am I miserable in any way.
Title: Re: "Evil" is a stronger force than "Good"?
Post by: Wiggs on June 07, 2013, 07:47:47 PM
Good ALWAYS trumps evil either or in the end. Evil people (people with no faith, atheists and liberals) are the most miserable people I've ever came across. Being that miserableequates to failure in the end and struggling through life being....miserable. Being miserable leads to stress, stress leads to an early death. That being said, there are some miserable mother fuckers on here and you can those are the ones with the dumbass replies. Haha

I wouldn't call faithless people evil unless they live to do evil. They are lost lambs though.
Title: Re: "Evil" is a stronger force than "Good"?
Post by: Kwon_2 on June 07, 2013, 08:08:32 PM
Evil corrupts and influences more people than good.

It is easier to be swayed by evil than good.

It is not 50 % Evil and 50 % good people in the world, Evil is in favor.

It takes a strong mind and strong will to resist the lure and temptation of evil.

In the end though, Good always trumps evil.

But for some, it is hard to resist the Lord
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Title: Re: "Evil" is a stronger force than "Good"?
Post by: doison on June 07, 2013, 08:36:54 PM
FIRST=

Evil is a misnomer in my opinion.

I think there are only misguided behaviors, and no such thing as evil.


________________________ ________________________ __________


SECOND=

There is life and there is harmony and there is progress in the universe.

This means that "Good" must be at least as strong a force as "bad", if not stronger (in order to cause progress and not just stagnation)

________________________ ________________________ ________________________ ________________________ ____________________


THIRD=

The events of this world are not of eternal significance to those who fail to achieve righteousness. They start over anew again and again untill they finally get it right.

If "bad" is winning the battle on earth, it is a meaningless victory in a war they cant possibly win.


 8)

Your talk is silly.
Title: Re: "Evil" is a stronger force than "Good"?
Post by: phreak on June 07, 2013, 11:33:58 PM
 'Evil will always triumph, because good is dumb'

Dark Helmet
Title: Re: "Evil" is a stronger force than "Good"?
Post by: phreak on June 07, 2013, 11:46:51 PM
Good ALWAYS trumps evil either or in the end. Evil people (people with no faith, atheists and liberals) are the most miserable people I've ever came across. Being that miserableequates to failure in the end and struggling through life being....miserable. Being miserable leads to stress, stress leads to an early death. That being said, there are some miserable mother fuckers on here and you can those are the ones with the dumbass replies. Haha
Nice trolling, old man. ;D


Greetings from northern Europe, the least religious and (consequently) happiest region on earth.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_atheism
http://www.forbes.com/2010/07/14/world-happiest-countries-lifestyle-realestate-gallup-table.html
Title: Re: "Evil" is a stronger force than "Good"?
Post by: hardgainerj on June 08, 2013, 05:56:41 AM
All good people have to do, is be consistent, yet many times nobody really gives a damn about how good you are. And evil people often run over good folks like a Mack truck hitting a deer...
Good people are often exploited, far more than evil people are pursecuted. 

All evil people have to worry about is a few good people standing up to them...but usually evil people tend to get their way for awhile, how ever long...
They tend to enjoy the riches, the pleasures of world...yet good people are content with the scraps.
Look at the governments of today's world---one could say each one is a hotbed of subversive evil.

Are there degrees of evilness and goodness? And where do they cross?
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Title: Re: "Evil" is a stronger force than "Good"?
Post by: Conker on June 08, 2013, 06:01:11 AM
The US runs roughshod over any nation/individual that gets in its way...Surely that's proof enough  that good prevails over evil
Title: Re: "Evil" is a stronger force than "Good"?
Post by: ukjeff on June 08, 2013, 06:06:15 AM
we had been losing our sense of connectedness to nature and connectedness to each other.

but we are starting to gain an awareness of our universal energy and its singular nature.

things feel very messed up and barbaric and unevolved; not because they are getting worse or because they havent gotten better, but because we have become aware of the way things should be better.

we are losing the pride we once would feel about things outside our control (heritage, race/ethnicity, national origin, wealth of parents/inheritance, name, facial/bone structure, etc)

less people celebrate the soldier and more people disagree with glorifying violent retribution.

people are beginning to value independent thought, question the men of power, and fewer trust authority for authority's sake

things are getting better.

Did you have your bunny suit on when you wrote that bollocks?
Title: Re: "Evil" is a stronger force than "Good"?
Post by: dr.chimps on June 08, 2013, 06:18:41 AM
All good people have to do, is be consistent, yet many times nobody really gives a damn about how good you are. And evil people often run over good folks like a Mack truck hitting a deer...
Good people are often exploited, far more than evil people are pursecuted. 

All evil people have to worry about is a few good people standing up to them...but usually evil people tend to get their way for awhile, how ever long...
They tend to enjoy the riches, the pleasures of world...yet good people are content with the scraps.
Look at the governments of today's world---one could say each one is a hotbed of subversive evil.

Are there degrees of evilness and goodness? And where do they cross?
And yet it takes *one* act of goodness to stun you.   ;)  :)
Title: Re: "Evil" is a stronger force than "Good"?
Post by: Tapeworm on June 08, 2013, 10:48:06 AM
“There are two types of people in this world, good and bad. The good sleep better, but the bad seem to enjoy the waking hours much more.”
Title: Re: "Evil" is a stronger force than "Good"?
Post by: Mr Nobody on June 08, 2013, 02:09:54 PM
“There are two types of people in this world, good and bad. The good sleep better, but the bad seem to enjoy the waking hours much more.”

True.
Title: Re: "Evil" is a stronger force than "Good"?
Post by: Rami on June 08, 2013, 03:08:56 PM
Satan engineered physical existence. The carbon 12 atom comprise physical life in the universe as we know it and it is his creation, because it makes up man and beast, and it has 6 protons, 6 neutrons and 6 electrons. Just look it up http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon-12

Silicon based life might be the escape, and the first step in self determined evolution by uploading the minds to mainframe computers. This might be the only chance at escaping Satan.

Evolution and the natural laws makes forms of physical existence evil.

We have to chose to be good. You've chosen.
Title: Re: "Evil" is a stronger force than "Good"?
Post by: Radical Plato on June 08, 2013, 09:47:06 PM
Satan engineered physical existence. The carbon 12 atom comprise physical life in the universe as we know it and it is his creation, because it makes up man and beast, and it has 6 protons, 6 neutrons and 6 electrons. Just look it up http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon-12

Silicon based life might be the escape, and the first step in self determined evolution by uploading the minds to mainframe computers. This might be the only chance at escaping Satan.

Evolution and the natural laws makes forms of physical existence evil.

We have to chose to be good. You've chosen.

Hi Johnny Falcon
Title: Re: "Evil" is a stronger force than "Good"?
Post by: Rami on June 09, 2013, 01:26:36 AM
Satan engineered physical existence. The carbon 12 atom comprise physical life in the universe as we know it and it is his creation, because it makes up man and beast, and it has 6 protons, 6 neutrons and 6 electrons. Just look it up http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon-12

Silicon based life might be the escape, and the first step in self determined evolution by uploading the minds to mainframe computers. This might be the only chance at escaping Satan.

Evolution and the natural laws makes forms of physical existence evil.

We have to chose to be good. You've chosen.


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Title: Re: "Evil" is a stronger force than "Good"?
Post by: dr.chimps on June 09, 2013, 03:29:10 AM
“There are two types of people in this world, good and bad. The good sleep better, but the bad seem to enjoy the waking hours much more.”

Nonsense. Those are the guys who walk across the yard and try to convince themselves of such.
Title: Re: "Evil" is a stronger force than "Good"?
Post by: SquatsRule on June 09, 2013, 08:06:04 AM
But which is stronger between will and fear?
Title: Re: "Evil" is a stronger force than "Good"?
Post by: Tapeworm on June 09, 2013, 08:44:35 AM
Nonsense. Those are the guys who walk across the yard and try to convince themselves of such.

You know I love witty Woody quotes tho.

I'm a little wrathful sometimes but I'm probably not quite the worst guy the world has had to endure.  Don't put much stock in this good & evil nonsense.  Life is long.  Even Mother Teresa hurt someone's feelings at some point.  IME people are basically just trying to get by and suffer from bouts of opportunism.
Title: Re: "Evil" is a stronger force than "Good"?
Post by: Jack T. Cross on June 09, 2013, 02:00:25 PM
I've found people that are up to evil have nearly always convinced themselves they are doing good.
Title: Re: "Evil" is a stronger force than "Good"?
Post by: Radical Plato on June 10, 2013, 01:11:38 AM
I've found people that are up to evil have nearly always convinced themselves they are doing good.
Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
C. S. Lewis
Title: Re: "Evil" is a stronger force than "Good"?
Post by: phreak on June 10, 2013, 01:25:08 AM
Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
C. S. Lewis
Didn't know that one yet. Nice.
Title: Re: "Evil" is a stronger force than "Good"?
Post by: Jack T. Cross on June 11, 2013, 02:28:45 PM
Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
C. S. Lewis

Sweet, E-Kul.

I suppose if there's any consolation to be found, it's that nearly everyone at least has a desire to do right.  So now we can only wish that every person was reasonable.
Title: Re: "Evil" is a stronger force than "Good"?
Post by: Viking11 on June 13, 2013, 07:48:30 PM
Really good discussion guys.!  The one question-ok really two- is what is evil?  What is good?
Title: Re: "Evil" is a stronger force than "Good"?
Post by: Radical Plato on June 13, 2013, 08:26:07 PM
Really good discussion guys.!  The one question-ok really two- is what is evil?  What is good?
Islam = EVIL  - NO ISLAM = Good   ;D