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Re: Trump Administration a failure so far.
« Reply #50 on: May 16, 2017, 06:53:28 AM »
I still am holding out hopes for saving US manufacturing, Closed Borders and the end of Bad Trade Deals.

Healthcare will be a complete disaster if he signs it into law as is.  Other than that, nothing really has been accomplished thus far.

Trump is still a much better choice than Hillary.  The main benefit is getting away from political correctness and victim mentality, although I am seeing alot of that "Victimhood" from the right.  They are still worthless on abortion, healthcare and Science and I am not sure if they will ever come to reason in those areas.  Anyways, hoping for the best!

A failure???  lmao      This guy has done more in his first few months of office than Obama ever did.  Trump is doing everything he can to reverse the toxicity of the previous FAILED administration.  Nothing but haters just piling on......

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Re: Trump Administration a failure so far.
« Reply #51 on: May 16, 2017, 07:51:20 AM »
I'd give Trump's first 115 days a 10 outta 10.  Comedy gold.  Daily.  Entertaining as fuck. 

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Re: Trump Administration a failure so far.
« Reply #52 on: May 16, 2017, 08:08:38 AM »
I'd give Trump's first 115 days a 10 outta 10.  Comedy gold.  Daily.  Entertaining as fuck. 

THIS is comedy gold....


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/05/16/slain-dnc-staffer-had-contact-with-wikileaks-investigator-says.html

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Re: Trump Administration a failure so far.
« Reply #53 on: May 16, 2017, 08:14:38 AM »
I'd give Trump's first 115 days a 10 outta 10.  Comedy gold.  Daily.  Entertaining as fuck.  




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Re: Trump Administration a failure so far.
« Reply #54 on: May 16, 2017, 08:16:50 AM »

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Re: Trump Administration a failure so far.
« Reply #55 on: May 16, 2017, 08:18:43 AM »
STFU Straw-FAG

Aw jeez, not you too. You should know better.

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Re: Trump Administration a failure so far.
« Reply #56 on: May 16, 2017, 08:21:59 AM »
No. No it's not more expensive.

What happens?

I mean it seems that the nations that do it, have a great healthcare and spend less per person.

What do you think happens?

No, not for all but for those that can afford it the cost is astronomical which basically covers the costs for those that can't afford it. So I will ask you again, what happens when there is a complete Government take over of the health care system?

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« Reply #57 on: May 16, 2017, 08:50:17 AM »
Watch the internet as we know it go bye bye when they get rid of Net Neutrality. hahah What a joke this turned out to be.

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Re: Trump Administration a failure so far.
« Reply #58 on: May 16, 2017, 12:58:51 PM »
STFU Straw-FAG
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D are depends covered under the new healthcare plan ??? ??? ???... did trump invest in the funeral trade after cancelling 24 million Americans health insurance. ??? ??? ??? ??? is being an asshole considered a pre-existing condition ??? ??? ??? ??? these are all questions that will be answered in trump's next 100 days
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Re: Trump Administration a failure so far.
« Reply #59 on: May 16, 2017, 01:01:30 PM »
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D are depends covered under the new healthcare plan ??? ??? ???... did trump invest in the funeral trade after cancelling 24 million Americans health insurance. ??? ??? ??? ??? is being an asshole considered a pre-existing condition ??? ??? ??? ??? these are all questions that will be answered in trump's next 100 days

The only ones that got cancelled were the millions under ObamaCare who lost their plans and doctors remember? 
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« Reply #60 on: May 16, 2017, 01:02:40 PM »
We have a different population than those countries.  Go to Italy vs most places in USA and you will see the vast differences.  Most here are lazy, fat, and slow and have horrible diets and lifestyles. 
Per Capita is what matters, not total population.  Its not hard.

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« Reply #61 on: May 16, 2017, 01:04:41 PM »
getbiggers know as much about politics as they know about bodybuilding.

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Re: Trump Administration a failure so far.
« Reply #62 on: May 16, 2017, 01:06:59 PM »
You don't go from being an admitted socialist all of these years supporting Sanders (that to this day still talks shit about Trump) then all of the sudden being all in for a capitalist with mostly conservative values. If you support a one payer systems that in fact makes you a socialist. That's his position

At least be honest about your affiliation
So Donald Trump is a Socialist because he still and always has supported Single Payer Healthcare System?  Right.

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« Reply #63 on: May 16, 2017, 01:08:27 PM »
Per Capita is what matters, not total population.  Its not hard.

Per Capita we are much more dispersed as a population, much more unhealthy, have massive swaths of ghetto tax-sponges and parasites who will consume all of the resources unless there is massive rationing etc.  

Not all countries that have single payer are a shining beacon of what others should do.  There are a lot more factors involved.  

Vermont, the whitest, and more lib state in the country tried to do it and realized it was fiscal lunacy.  

We need to get our diabetes problems under countrol, get a lot of the fat land whale ghetto leeches working and moving, same w the wal-mart scooter crowd, etc.  Our spending on health care is out of control also because we waste tons on end of life worthless procedures which we would have to ration, which i have no problem with, but we need to be honest about it.  




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Re: Trump Administration a failure so far.
« Reply #64 on: May 16, 2017, 01:08:40 PM »

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« Reply #65 on: May 16, 2017, 01:10:31 PM »
i for one hopes that the politicians will find their way to the msg board of getbig because its here the solutions are presented.


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Re: Trump Administration a failure so far.
« Reply #66 on: May 16, 2017, 01:11:58 PM »
Per Capita we are much more dispersed as a population, much more unhealthy, have massive swaths of ghetto tax-sponges and parasites who will consume all of the resources unless there is massive rationing etc.  

Not all countries that have single payer are a shining beacon of what others should do.  There are a lot more factors involved.  

Vermont, the whitest, and more lib state in the country tried to do it and realized it was fiscal lunacy.  

We need to get our diabetes problems under countrol, get a lot of the fat land whale ghetto leeches working and moving, same w the wal-mart scooter crowd, etc.  Our spending on health care is out of control also because we waste tons on end of life worthless procedures which we would have to ration, which i have no problem with, but we need to be honest about it.  




Again, why would you be against a Single Payer System for Everyone and a Private Insurance for people dumb enough to still want to pay for that shit?  Whats the problem?

Also, population dispersal is meaningless with Single Payer.  They can go anywhere they want and it would still be WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY YYYYYYYY Cheaper than what we have now.

Private Insurance is bleeding EVERYONE dry and its only going to get worse with Republican Obamacare 2.0.

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Re: Trump Administration a failure so far.
« Reply #67 on: May 16, 2017, 01:17:21 PM »
Again, why would you be against a Single Payer System for Everyone and a Private Insurance for people dumb enough to still want to pay for that shit?  Whats the problem?

Also, population dispersal is meaningless with Single Payer.  They can go anywhere they want and it would still be WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY YYYYYYYY Cheaper than what we have now.

Private Insurance is bleeding EVERYONE dry and its only going to get worse with Republican Obamacare 2.0.

I just have little to zero faith that the govt can or would effectively manage this.  Think US post office vs Fed Ex   or Department of Motor Vehicles vs almost anything. 

Insurance for medical is basically bankruptcy protection under Obamacare w the deductibles and co-pays so high.  Its garbage - and TrumpCare will be no different. 

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Re: Trump Administration a failure so far.
« Reply #68 on: May 16, 2017, 01:20:03 PM »
I just have little to zero faith that the govt can or would effectively manage this.  Think US post office vs Fed Ex   or Department of Motor Vehicles vs almost anything. 

Insurance for medical is basically bankruptcy protection under Obamacare w the deductibles and co-pays so high.  Its garbage - and TrumpCare will be no different. 
The Government DOES NOT manage it.

http://www.pnhp.org/facts/single-payer-faq

Is national health insurance ‘socialized medicine’?

No. Socialized medicine is a system in which doctors and hospitals work for and draw salaries from the government. Doctors in the Veterans Administration and the Armed Services are paid this way. The health systems in Great Britain and Spain are other examples. But in most European countries, Canada, Australia and Japan they have socialized health insurance, not socialized medicine. The government pays for care that is delivered in the private (mostly not-for-profit) sector. This is similar to how Medicare works in this country. Doctors are in private practice and are paid on a fee-for-service basis from government funds. The government does not own or manage medical practices or hospitals.

The term socialized medicine is often used to conjure up images of government bureaucratic interference in medical care. That does not describe what happens in countries with national health insurance where doctors and patients often have more clinical freedom than in the U.S., where bureaucrats attempt to direct care.

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Re: Trump Administration a failure so far.
« Reply #69 on: May 16, 2017, 01:20:42 PM »
So Donald Trump is a Socialist because he still and always has supported Single Payer Healthcare System?  Right.

If he actually proposed while personally being involved in the writing of this last proposal, then yes he his. But since it was NEVER mentioned, suggested or proposed the obvious answer is no he isn't. So I'm gong to ask you the same question I asked Tu. If there is a government take over if the healthcare system like obama and orther knucklehead socialists want, what do you suppose would happen?

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Re: Trump Administration a failure so far.
« Reply #70 on: May 16, 2017, 01:22:35 PM »
I just have little to zero faith that the govt can or would effectively manage this.  Think US post office vs Fed Ex   or Department of Motor Vehicles vs almost anything. 

Insurance for medical is basically bankruptcy protection under Obamacare w the deductibles and co-pays so high.  Its garbage - and TrumpCare will be no different. 
The Republicans in congress in 2006 screwed over the Post Office.  They required pre-funding for health benefits for 75 years in advance which is unheard of in any sector.  The Post Office posts a profit when that is taken out.  Furthermore, the Post Office get 0 Dollars from tax money and IS NOT funded by any taxes so the cost is zero for each citizen.  It runs on its own.


Fed-Ex is shit.

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Re: Trump Administration a failure so far.
« Reply #71 on: May 16, 2017, 01:23:53 PM »
The Government DOES NOT manage it.

http://www.pnhp.org/facts/single-payer-faq

Is national health insurance ‘socialized medicine’?

No. Socialized medicine is a system in which doctors and hospitals work for and draw salaries from the government. Doctors in the Veterans Administration and the Armed Services are paid this way. The health systems in Great Britain and Spain are other examples. But in most European countries, Canada, Australia and Japan they have socialized health insurance, not socialized medicine. The government pays for care that is delivered in the private (mostly not-for-profit) sector. This is similar to how Medicare works in this country. Doctors are in private practice and are paid on a fee-for-service basis from government funds. The government does not own or manage medical practices or hospitals.

The term socialized medicine is often used to conjure up images of government bureaucratic interference in medical care. That does not describe what happens in countries with national health insurance where doctors and patients often have more clinical freedom than in the U.S., where bureaucrats attempt to direct care.


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Re: Trump Administration a failure so far.
« Reply #72 on: May 16, 2017, 01:24:38 PM »
If he actually proposed while personally being involved in the writing of this last proposal, then yes he his. But since it was NEVER mentioned, suggested or proposed the obvious answer is no he isn't. So I'm gong to ask you the same question I asked Tu. If there is a government take over if the healthcare system like obama and orther knucklehead socialists want, what do you suppose would happen?
https://about.usps.com/who-we-are/postal-facts/top-10-things-to-know.htm


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« Reply #73 on: May 16, 2017, 01:27:06 PM »
Aw jeez, not you too. You should know better.

classic projection from 333

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Re: Trump Administration a failure so far.
« Reply #74 on: May 16, 2017, 01:27:37 PM »
https://about.usps.com/who-we-are/postal-facts/top-10-things-to-know.htm


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That's not what I had asked. Once the government takes over healthcare they've taken over the economy, once they've taken over the economy they can do anything they want. It's all about power they couldn't give two shit about helping anyone.