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Title: Viator
Post by: Figo on June 12, 2009, 02:01:10 PM
Casey was 18 or 19 here!

(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/viator/vi186.jpg)
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Post by: pellius on June 13, 2009, 01:07:19 AM
Best teenage bodybuilder ever. Seemed to have lost the wow factor when he became an adult and competed along side other pros.
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Post by: Tyr on June 13, 2009, 02:25:31 AM
Colorado breeding
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Post by: webcake on June 13, 2009, 02:27:34 AM
crazy.....
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Post by: Deicide on June 13, 2009, 03:28:15 AM
crazy.....

He was not a member of Team Horrible Genetics...

Team Horrible Genetics approved
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Post by: Mars on June 13, 2009, 03:31:00 AM
i didnt even looked that good at my 24th.
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Post by: Deicide on June 13, 2009, 03:35:09 AM
i didnt even looked that good at my 24th.

I never have and never will look that good, genetics=everything.

Team Horrible Genetics approved
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Post by: SAMSON123 on June 13, 2009, 03:41:54 AM
i didnt even looked that good at my 24th.

ROIDS were different then and many had a better effect on the body (not good for the liver) than todays drugs. BB from the 70s and 80s looked incredible. Can't seem to get that look with today's BB...DBOL anyone?
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Post by: phyxsius on June 13, 2009, 03:42:13 AM
His waist got bigger by age
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Post by: Mr Nobody on June 13, 2009, 06:52:48 AM
Casey was 18 or 19 here!

(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/viator/vi186.jpg)
Fantastic. He never was really the same after leaving Arthur Jones his physique seemed to decline.
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Post by: Figo on June 13, 2009, 07:36:15 AM
At 19!

(http://digilander.libero.it/iompao/c85.jpg)
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Post by: Mr Nobody on June 13, 2009, 07:38:49 AM
At 19!

(http://digilander.libero.it/iompao/c85.jpg)
Great pic you have any of his Mr America photos?
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Post by: Kaliym73 on June 13, 2009, 08:14:35 AM
Great pics. I have to agree, when Casey Left Aurthur Jones he was not the same and his hype never lived up against other competitors as he got older, but he was amazing for his time.
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Post by: ManBearPig... on June 13, 2009, 08:21:47 AM
and to think he achieved this look naturally on a vegetarian diet is just mind boggling.
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Post by: Meso_z on June 13, 2009, 08:32:12 AM
At 19!

(http://digilander.libero.it/iompao/c85.jpg)

Now i realize i look like shit.
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Post by: Griffith on June 13, 2009, 08:33:04 AM
and to think he achieved this look naturally on a vegetarian diet is just mind boggling.
:o
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Post by: Tatyana on June 13, 2009, 08:38:18 AM
and to think he achieved this look naturally on a vegetarian diet is just mind boggling.

Are you sure he was veggie?

I have known a few veggie BBers, well IFBB pro-fitness women, however you don't see many men.

I have also read that Jack Lalane was a proponent of vegetarian diets and started his career as a vegetarian.
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Post by: mass 04 on June 13, 2009, 08:54:07 AM
Are you sure he was veggie?

I have known a few veggie BBers, well IFBB pro-fitness women, however you don't see many men.

I have also read that Jack Lalane was a proponent of vegetarian diets and started his career as a vegetarian.
Bill Pearl is a vegetarian.
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Post by: hazbin on June 13, 2009, 09:07:25 AM
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Post by: pellius on June 13, 2009, 09:16:54 AM
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Post by: Danimal77 on June 13, 2009, 09:45:05 AM
Dude was strong as FUCK. I have old Muscle and Fitness magazines from 1982-1983 where Casey is putting up a ridiculous amount of weight. Him and Bertil were 2 guys born in the wrong era.
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Post by: Van_Bilderass on June 13, 2009, 09:56:28 AM
Seems like the guy peaked as a teen. A bit strange.
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Post by: Danimal77 on June 13, 2009, 10:07:06 AM
....

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Post by: Danimal77 on June 13, 2009, 10:09:12 AM
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Post by: GetItOnNY on June 13, 2009, 10:12:28 AM
Vanbilderass, you said in another thread to much to soon with anabolics didnt you?
 Well that may have been the case with Casey Viator.Alot of guys think more is better when it comes to drugs, and they wind up ruining there physique and wearing out there receptors.
To the point there body looks like shit, or looks worse,and there body doesnt respond to anything anymore.
In bodybuilding there is a peak, then a decline.This all has to do with the foundation you build naturally.I waited until I was 32 years old and 250lbs before I used any anabolics.
To many guys hop on the juice at 19, or 20 years old, and there body is shot by the time they are 24-25 years old.
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Post by: Danimal77 on June 13, 2009, 10:12:36 AM
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Post by: oldman on June 13, 2009, 10:14:14 AM
try to remember it was a different time, he was a freak!!!  do not compare him with todays pot bellied bodybuilders.  yes, they were lighter and smaller, but their waists were much more inline.  Most importantly, he is still alive.
Title: Re: Viator
Post by: Figo on June 13, 2009, 10:15:02 AM
Danimal,

Is that Casey in the yellow top? :o

This is my fave, at 19!

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Post by: Danimal77 on June 13, 2009, 10:16:23 AM
Danimal,

Is that Casey in the yellow top? :o

This is my fave, at 19!



YES, that is a recent pic of Casey.
Title: Re: Viator
Post by: Figo on June 13, 2009, 10:17:38 AM
(http://digilander.libero.it/caseyviator/vi88.jpg)
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Post by: Danimal77 on June 13, 2009, 10:18:32 AM
.....

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Post by: Figo on June 13, 2009, 10:20:15 AM
(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/viator/vi224.jpg)
Title: Re: Viator
Post by: Danimal77 on June 13, 2009, 10:21:28 AM
Popeye  :D

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Post by: Danimal77 on June 13, 2009, 10:24:05 AM
.....

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Post by: Danimal77 on June 13, 2009, 10:25:35 AM
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Post by: Danimal77 on June 13, 2009, 10:27:02 AM
AMAZING pic with Gunnar Rosbo, Rachel McDISH and Casey from the early 1980's

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Post by: Danimal77 on June 13, 2009, 10:29:05 AM
Recent

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Post by: Figo on June 13, 2009, 10:52:38 AM
He's changed a lot. But for a 59 yr old, looking good!
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Post by: Danimal77 on June 13, 2009, 01:30:04 PM
He's changed a lot. But for a 59 yr old, looking good!

He's still 58, but whose counting, right? ;)
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Post by: Tatyana on June 13, 2009, 01:39:25 PM
He's still 58, but whose counting, right? ;)

He looks more like late 30s, early 40s.

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Post by: pellius on June 13, 2009, 01:54:04 PM
Vanbilderass, you said in another thread to much to soon with anabolics didnt you?
 Well that may have been the case with Casey Viator.Alot of guys think more is better when it comes to drugs, and they wind up ruining there physique and wearing out there receptors.
To the point there body looks like shit, or looks worse,and there body doesnt respond to anything anymore.
In bodybuilding there is a peak, then a decline.This all has to do with the foundation you build naturally.I waited until I was 32 years old and 250lbs before I used any anabolics.
To many guys hop on the juice at 19, or 20 years old, and there body is shot by the time they are 24-25 years old.

I wonder about that too but look at guys like Arnold and, in a different era, Lee Priest. I don't think their bodies were shot by the late twenties.

I still don't understand this wearing out of the receptors business. Can anybody explain that in layman's terms. VanB? gh15?
 
Title: Re: Viator
Post by: GetItOnNY on June 13, 2009, 02:55:52 PM
Wearing out the receptors in Laymans terms is like taking to much caffiene or Ephedra and wearing out your addrenal glands.
If you start out by taking 1 fat burner a day, within 2 weeks you will probably need 2 pills to get the same energy rush .
If a person takes to many drugs or doesnt give his body a break the body becomes saturated with that drug.Therefore it no longer repsnds to the drug, or it takes twice the dosage to get the same results.
Another good example is I knew a guy who took pain medication.He would take 3-4 pills a day, but after a year he had to take 8-10 of them to get the same effective.
The body has adapted to the feeling and now has built a tolence to the medicatio he was using, but then abusing.
Steroids like ay drug,if over used the body builds a tolerance to.Once this happens you have to stop using them for atleast 6 months, or increase your dosage
Title: Re: Viator
Post by: Van_Bilderass on June 13, 2009, 03:18:12 PM
I still don't understand this wearing out of the receptors business. Can anybody explain that in layman's terms. VanB? gh15?
 

I don't think it can be explained by "wearing out of receptors" specifically. But the guys who dump a lot of drugs into their bodies early on just seem to fall apart quicker. You could say they take a fast track to where others are much later on, peak earlier. I don't know, maybe they could be better ultimately if they took it a bit slower.
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Post by: Ursus on June 13, 2009, 03:26:37 PM
I think his physique is tremendous
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Post by: frankinpump on June 13, 2009, 03:28:46 PM
Casey going deep sea fishing with the ladies.
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Post by: Danimal77 on June 13, 2009, 03:31:16 PM
Casey going deep sea fishing with the ladies.

He's still wide as fuck. Actually, he's wider now than he was in the early 1980's.
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Post by: Mr Nobody on June 13, 2009, 04:01:02 PM
(http://digilander.libero.it/caseyviator/vi88.jpg)
Was he on roids during the Colorado experiment? ???
Title: Re: Viator
Post by: Danimal77 on June 13, 2009, 04:54:25 PM
I heard he was like 5'9"-5'10". Looked much shorter than that (no more than 5'8").
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Post by: Figo on June 14, 2009, 01:35:48 AM
Was he on roids during the Colorado experiment? ???

No, he was a lifetime nattie
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Post by: disco_stu on June 14, 2009, 03:17:15 AM
Best teenage bodybuilder ever. Seemed to have lost the wow factor when he became an adult and competed along side other pros.

are you on drugs?

i suppose you never saw lee priest or even a person called arnold S at ages 17-19. Priest was a freak at 16. fro memory he won the mr. australia at 17.

gaspari and even platz looked at least as good as viator at 19...im sure theres loads more..
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Post by: Switznegger on June 14, 2009, 03:21:25 AM
D-BOL is a Wonderful Drug.
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Post by: Figo on June 14, 2009, 03:29:18 AM
are you on drugs?

i suppose you never saw lee priest or even a person called arnold S at ages 17-19. Priest was a freak at 16. fro memory he won the mr. australia at 17.

gaspari and even platz looked at least as good as viator at 19...im sure theres loads more..

De Mayo, Mentzer, Cutler, Ray...
Title: Re: Viator
Post by: Tatyana on June 14, 2009, 04:30:56 AM
I don't think it can be explained by "wearing out of receptors" specifically. But the guys who dump a lot of drugs into their bodies early on just seem to fall apart quicker. You could say they take a fast track to where others are much later on, peak earlier. I don't know, maybe they could be better ultimately if they took it a bit slower.

Higher levels of testosterone in the body is know to:

- upregulate myostatin (which is why gains slow down around week 10-12)

- induce insulin resistance in muscle cells

Insulin resistance in the long term is related to numerous pathologies, including diabetes, heart disease, certain cancers.

There is no evidence that testosterone use 'wears out' androgen receptors (the term for other drugs is that they are up-regulated, meaning there are more).

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Post by: _bruce_ on June 14, 2009, 04:55:49 AM
Dr. Putzi knows best...
are Ninja and Bateman still alive...
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Post by: Tatyana on June 14, 2009, 05:51:50 AM
Dr. Putzi knows best...
are Ninja and Bateman still alive...

Hey midwestern guitar star  :)

Yes they are, Bateman is in school quite a bit so not posting as much.

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Post by: Deicide on June 14, 2009, 05:53:48 AM
Hey midwestern guitar star  :)

Yes they are, Bateman is in school quite a bit so not posting as much.



Bateman

THG approved
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Post by: Van_Bilderass on June 14, 2009, 06:04:17 AM
Higher levels of testosterone in the body is know to:

- upregulate myostatin (which is why gains slow down around week 10-12)

- induce insulin resistance in muscle cells

Insulin resistance in the long term is related to numerous pathologies, including diabetes, heart disease, certain cancers.

There is no evidence that testosterone use 'wears out' androgen receptors (the term for other drugs is that they are up-regulated, meaning there are more).



Guys can get bigger but the physique starts looking tired and sloppy. The skin doesn't sit taut on the muscle, they don't look as fresh in general. Ab separation, torn muscles. Seems there are often several major and minor tears in quick succession, once it starts the whole physique often falls apart pretty quickly. I've seen it happen to guys who are relative beginners to competitive bb and they were heavy users with the insulin and gh added not long after the AS.

I don't know if any of those things can be blamed solely. And I know the AR most likely up-regulate, though one study showed up-regulation then return to baseline through the study period with low T dose. Who knows what happens with a heavy polypharma stack.
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Post by: Tatyana on June 14, 2009, 06:09:26 AM
Guys can get bigger but the physique starts looking tired and sloppy. The skin doesn't sit taut on the muscle, they don't look as fresh in general. Ab separation, torn muscles. Seems there are often several major and minor tears in quick succession, once it starts the whole physique often falls apart pretty quickly. I've seen it happen to guys who are relative beginners to competitive bb and they were heavy users with the insulin and gh added not long after the AS.

I don't know if any of those things can be blamed solely. And I know the AR most likely up-regulate, though one study showed up-regulation then return to baseline through the study period with low T dose. Who knows what happens with a heavy polypharma stack.

If I remember correctly, Winstrol inhibits collagen synthesis, so that could result in some of the issues you have mentioned.

The deranged lipid profiles of those on steroids will have an impact on the fatty acid profile of cellular membranes, which again is going to affect how 'flexible' the membrane is and transport of nutrients (glucose in particular) and possibly the steroid hormones across the membrane to the nuclear receptors as well as the structural integrity of the cells.

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Post by: Mr Nobody on June 14, 2009, 06:09:45 AM
Guys can get bigger but the physique starts looking tired and sloppy. The skin doesn't sit taut on the muscle, they don't look as fresh in general. Ab separation, torn muscles. Seems there are often several major and minor tears in quick succession, once it starts the whole physique often falls apart pretty quickly. I've seen it happen to guys who are relative beginners to competitive bb and they were heavy users with the insulin and gh added not long after the AS.

I don't know if any of those things can be blamed solely. And I know the AR most likely up-regulate, though one study showed up-regulation then return to baseline through the study period with low T dose. Who knows what happens with a heavy polypharma stack.
Nice point Builder
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Post by: Van_Bilderass on June 14, 2009, 06:13:18 AM
If I remember correctly, Winstrol inhibits collagen synthesis, so that could result in some of the issues you have mentioned.


Did you know Winstrol has been studied as an arthritis treatment? I think it showed some effectiveness too.

I don't remember for sure but I'd like to say Winstrol increases collagen synthesis but it's the "wrong" type of collagen and the tendons get stiffer and fail at lighter loads.



Title: Re: Viator
Post by: Danimal77 on June 14, 2009, 07:18:37 AM
are you on drugs?

i suppose you never saw lee priest or even a person called arnold S at ages 17-19. Priest was a freak at 16. fro memory he won the mr. australia at 17.

gaspari and even platz looked at least as good as viator at 19...im sure theres loads more..

Lee Haney was also a teenage prodigy.
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Post by: Danimal77 on June 14, 2009, 07:20:19 AM
Lee Haney was also a teenage prodigy.

I forgot about Eddie Robinson too.
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on June 14, 2009, 08:06:16 AM
Shane Dimora another teenage phenom
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Post by: Mr Nobody on June 14, 2009, 08:07:50 AM
Shane Dimora another teenage phenom
I forgot about him whats he doing now?
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on June 14, 2009, 08:22:28 AM
I forgot about him whats he doing now?

Good question  ???
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Post by: Danimal77 on June 14, 2009, 12:46:58 PM
Shane Dimora another teenage phenom

Nice penciled in eye brows. Fluffer boy.