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Did Hillary and Bill Clinton plant Donald Trump in the election to ruin the Republican's chances of winning the election? Cenk Uygur, Jimmy Dore, John Iadarola, Michael Shure, and Jordan Chariton, hosts of The Young Turks, break it down.
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Their conclusion = total nonsense (which is the nice way of saying fucking stupid)
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If there was a dem plant in the 2016 race... would he be acting any differently? lol
I'm hoping the GOP figures it out and boots Trump at the convention. Plug in Rubio/Cruz or whoever and just win it.
Sickening to see Hilary cakewalk to a win as Trump just keeps doing this. He acts like an ass to set the bar low. Then he'll do a big speech from a teleprompter and tell the conservatives what they want to hear. They publicly endorse him - and the next day, he'll say something horrible so hurt their names. Repeat.
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Did Hillary and Bill Clinton plant Donald Trump in the election to ruin the Republican's chances of winning the election? Cenk Uygur, Jimmy Dore, John Iadarola, Michael Shure, and Jordan Chariton, hosts of The Young Turks, break it down.
Did you watch the clip? They didn't "break down" Trump being a "Clinton plant." Not the most sophisticated political discussion.
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Another Grand Conspiracy?
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Another Grand Conspiracy?
No. I didn't hear them talk about a conspiracy in that clip.
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Another Grand Conspiracy?
oz, what do you think about the suspected alvin greene plant a few years back? it worked...
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oz, what do you think about the suspected alvin greene plant a few years back? it worked...
was it proven or just suspected that he was in fact a plant?
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If there was a dem plant in the 2016 race... would he be acting any differently? lol
I'm hoping the GOP figures it out and boots Trump at the convention. Plug in Rubio/Cruz or whoever and just win it.
Sickening to see Hilary cakewalk to a win as Trump just keeps doing this. He acts like an ass to set the bar low. Then he'll do a big speech from a teleprompter and tell the conservatives what they want to hear. They publicly endorse him - and the next day, he'll say something horrible so hurt their names. Repeat.
how many times are you going to repeat that fucking stupid statement
Trump is acting the same way he's acted his entire life and the same way he acted to win decisively win the primary
Trump announced yesterday that he will do a news conference next week dedicated to shitting all over Hillary and Bill
I suppose that's part of Clintons plan too
Of course you're the person who thinks Hillary is going to bestow billions of dollars in governement contracts on Trump
I hope for you case this is a grand troll job because the alternative is much worse
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oz, what do you think about the suspected alvin greene plant a few years back? it worked...
you keep bringing that up but refuse to examine the fact that Green and Trump have exactly NOTHING in common and the circumstances are in no way similar either.
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was it proven or just suspected that he was in fact a plant?
never proven as far as I can tell and nothing at all similar to the allegation that Trump was "planted" by Clinton
Again, the premise presumes clairvoyance on the part of Clinton that Trump would defeat the 16 other candidates by acting batshit crazy (i.e. acting the same way he's done his entire life) and then (according to 240 either "bowing out" or accidentally admitting Hillary would be the better candidate (and I guess somehow that magically changes the way Republicans would cast their votes)
For his trouble Trump gets to destroy his brand name (he's already lost/destroyed many business opportunities due to his candidacy) and of course once he bows or or admits Hillary is the better choice then he won't be able to show his face in public without fear of retribution by his scorned followers.
He's doing all this so that after she become POTUS, Hillary can bestow billions of dollars in government contracts on Trump so that his kids will be set for life
Makes perfect sense...doesn't it
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was it proven or just suspected that he was in fact a plant?
LOL @ "proven"?
An 80 IQ poverty dude with sexual charges pending magically shows up with a $10 grand check to run for office?
He didn't know any political positions, zero campaign, zero team.
he was just another name on the ballot to draw voters. He didn't have 10k to his name, yet magically arrived to draw voters.
If you want to defend his campaign as legitimate - and use that to disprove any Trump/clinton plant... then I think you have a losing strategy already.
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LOL @ "proven"?
An 80 IQ poverty dude with sexual charges pending magically shows up with a $10 grand check to run for office?
He didn't know any political positions, zero campaign, zero team.
he was just another name on the ballot to draw voters. He didn't have 10k to his name, yet magically arrived to draw voters.
If you want to defend his campaign as legitimate - and use that to disprove any Trump/clinton plant... then I think you have a losing strategy already.
I am not trying to defend anything. Either there is proof/evidence or baseless speculation.
Same with the Trump Clinton charge.
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never proven as far as I can tell and nothing at all similar to the allegation that Trump was "planted" by Clinton
Again, the premise presumes clairvoyance on the part of Clinton that Trump would defeat the 16 other candidates by acting batshit crazy (i.e. acting the same way he's done his entire life) and then (according to 240 either "bowing out" or accidentally admitting Hillary would be the better candidate (and I guess somehow that magically changes the way Republicans would cast their votes)
For his trouble Trump gets to destroy his brand name (he's already lost/destroyed many business opportunities due to his candidacy) and of course once he bows or or admits Hillary is the better choice then he won't be able to show his face in public without fear of retribution by his scorned followers.
He's doing all this so that after she become POTUS, Hillary can bestow billions of dollars in government contracts on Trump so that his kids will be set for life
Makes perfect sense...doesn't it
I was fairly sure there wasn't anything to it. but I love how it was suggested it was proven when he said:
oz, what do you think about the suspected alvin greene plant a few years back? it worked..
And as usual with things like this once you think it through, see that there isn't any tangible evidence, its easy to see its fantasy.
Trump seduced many people. Shame on them, Shame on the GOP for once again serving up a turd.
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What a world CT'ers live in, EVERYTHING IS A CONSPIRACY isn't it? From NBA Refs trying to extend a finals series for the network or the league by cheating on calls, to Trump working for Hillary.
Not EVERYTHING.
But yes, there were 50 calls a night to the busted ref, often from other refs. SHitloads of $ = yes, people had a nice racket going.
And YES, when the POTUS job is on the line, and lifetime buddies run against each other - and one is publicly tanking his own campaign... yeah, I think something stinks.
I think 95% of "CT"s are bullshit. I think YOUR technique of lumping me into the "everything is a CT crowd" is one of those really weak Debate 101 techniques. I'm surprised you didn't mention UFOs and the Holocaust, as is usually the technique for discounting any CT. I love it when people say "Oh, you think the official story about benghazi is a lie, I bet you're a holocaust denying tinfoil hat wearer!"
Yes, I think Trump is working to give hilary the job - and some very high profile repubs think so too. When you try to paint me with the shady everything brush, I just have to shake my head. You're better than that.
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Not EVERYTHING.
But yes, there were 50 calls a night to the busted ref, often from other refs. SHitloads of $ = yes, people had a nice racket going.
So now these particular refs are?
Go thing you are not a judge and there are always 11 other people on a jury.
And YES, when the POTUS job is on the line, and lifetime buddies run against each other - and one is publicly tanking his own campaign... yeah, I think something stinks.
Because you may think he's tanking his own campaign doesn't mean he is. he is what he is, an ego maniac billionaire that said things people loved to hear.
I think 95% of "CT"s are bullshit.
If i remember right you think these are CT's:
9/11
OB's birth certificate
and tonite's refs in Cleveland.
So i guess you are right, becuase i am sure there are many many more.
I think YOUR technique of lumping me into the "everything is a CT crowd" is one of those really weak Debate 101 techniques. I'm surprised you didn't mention UFOs and the Holocaust, as is usually the technique for discounting any CT. I love it when people say "Oh, you think the official story about benghazi is a lie, I bet you're a holocaust denying tinfoil hater wearer!"
Which CT's don't you believe in?
Yes, I think Trump is working to give hilary the job - and some very high profile repubs think so too. When you try to paint me with the shady everything brush, I just have to shake my head. You're better than that.
I pulled the quote too late. I reconsidered it and thought it was too antagonistic. But yeah, you seem to take a CT slant often. Maybe i am wrong. But that's what it looks like to me. Taking what a "high profile politician" says too seriously is stupid. That's like taking a promise a crack whore makes seriously. Its pretty much accepted that there is a percentage of the population that are very susceptible to believing CTs. Not a bad way move voters if i was a repub politician.
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wait a minute - oz, do you still believe tim donaghey was the only NBA ref betting on the games?
let's start there.
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wait a minute - oz, do you still believe tim donaghey was the only NBA ref betting on the games?
let's start there.
Why?
Because arguing that more than one NBA ref bet on games proves that tonight's crew is going to cheat?
Lol
What are some of the 95% of CTs you don't believe in?
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Why?
well, because you started with that example. I want to know if you're poo-poo'ing me with something you actually believe in.
I recall you believe in UFOs (I made a meme showing you believe in UFOs but not safe driving :) )
Is my CT that the NBA cheating goes beyond one referee, and more outrageous than "All of the world govts are secretly conspiring to lie to us about alien life"?
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Why?
Because arguing that more than one NBA ref bet on games proves that tonight's crew is going to cheat?
Lol
What are some of the 95% of CTs you don't believe in?
Bump
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Is my CT that the NBA cheating goes beyond one referee, and more outrageous than "All of the world govts are secretly conspiring to lie to us about alien life"?
this is what i am talking about:
the league is fixed as shit. you just know refs will do everything possible to give CLE the win in game 3. The NBA season is over if GS wins.
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If there was a dem plant in the 2016 race... would he be acting any differently? lol
I'm hoping the GOP figures it out and boots Trump at the convention. Plug in Rubio/Cruz or whoever and just win it.
Sickening to see Hilary cakewalk to a win as Trump just keeps doing this. He acts like an ass to set the bar low. Then he'll do a big speech from a teleprompter and tell the conservatives what they want to hear. They publicly endorse him - and the next day, he'll say something horrible so hurt their names. Repeat.
If Trump were really a shape shifting Reptilian from another dimension intent on taking over our government ....would he be acting any differently
I say no
case closed
Trump is most likely a shape shifting Reptilian
I don't like it any more than you but I can't ignore those kind of facts
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the NBA really IS shady. I've watched it since I was a kid. They like a series, they like it close, and many analysts agree refs will let calls go one way or another at home or to extend a series. This isn't news.
You're not prepared to say the fixing was limited to 1 man, but you KNOW it's not happening today?
you're not prepared to say the govts of the world have a big massive lie, but you believe there's aliens?
You're not prepared to say 911 was inside job, but you want a new investigation and believe we let it happen?
Bro, again, I'm sorry but you're confused. You mock CTers when you spend a nice chunk of your life semi-accepting them. You're kinda like the chick who will let the guy take her booty because she's saving that cherry for marriage. You're still a ho getting laid, but you can play the technical "I'm a virgin!" card when lining up for potential suitors.
Just own it, bro. You believe the govt let 911 happen. You believe the govts of the world are hiding aliens from us. And you only debate semantics and "extent of CTery" on message boards because it lets you stay above the crazy CTers of the world (who believe in most of them). Cause you only believe in *some* of them ;)
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the NBA really IS shady. I've watched it since I was a kid. They like a series, they like it close, and many analysts agree refs will let calls go one way or another at home or to extend a series. This isn't news.
You're not prepared to say the fixing was limited to 1 man, but you KNOW it's not happening today?
you're not prepared to say the govts of the world have a big massive lie, but you believe there's aliens?
You're not prepared to say 911 was inside job, but you want a new investigation and believe we let it happen?
Bro, again, I'm sorry but you're confused. You mock CTers when you spend a nice chunk of your life semi-accepting them. You're kinda like the chick who will let the guy take her booty because she's saving that cherry for marriage. You're still a ho getting laid, but you can play the technical "I'm a virgin!" card when lining up for potential suitors.
Just own it, bro. You believe the govt let 911 happen. You believe the govts of the world are hiding aliens from us. And you only debate semantics and "extent of CTery" on message boards because it lets you stay above the crazy CTers of the world (who believe in most of them). Cause you only believe in *some* of them ;)
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Another Grand Conspiracy. This time it is the NBA.
PS no need to melt down, it's A numbers game, one day you will be able to make a CT like claim and actually have tangible evidence instead of a bunch speculative bull shit, flawed logic, and rhetoric.
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you attack me when i completely make valid points. you dodge these points. you just blanket hate on it with "Oh, another grand conspiracy..."
You believe in UFOs. You believe the US Govt let 911 happen. You're a pretty big CTer, bro. You spend way too much energy keeping up your public facade of "oh, those silly CTers... "
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you attack me when i completely make valid points. you dodge these points. you just blanket hate on it with "Oh, another grand conspiracy..."
You believe in UFOs. You believe the US Govt let 911 happen. You're a pretty big CTer, bro. You spend way too much energy keeping up your public facade of "oh, those silly CTers... "
You haven't made a valid point. You cite a betting scandal to support your charge about the refs making calls in tonight's game to extend the series. That's is not a valid point. It's an association fallacy.
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LOL @ "proven"?
An 80 IQ poverty dude with sexual charges pending magically shows up with a $10 grand check to run for office?
He didn't know any political positions, zero campaign, zero team.
he was just another name on the ballot to draw voters. He didn't have 10k to his name, yet magically arrived to draw voters.
If you want to defend his campaign as legitimate - and use that to disprove any Trump/clinton plant... then I think you have a losing strategy already.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alvin_Greene
how does a man with an 80 IQ graduate from college and serve in the Army and the Air Force
Let's put that aside and pretend he was a "plant" (whatever the fuck that even means)
So What
That has NOTHING to do with Trump
Trump had talked about running for POTUS for 20 years and almost did it in the prior election
The guy is a megalomaniac and world class narcissist
You keep stating as fact that Greene was a "plant" as if that proves that Trump in one too
How many times do you need to hear this?
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Let's put that aside and pretend he was a "plant" (whatever the fuck that even means)
So What
That has NOTHING to do with Trump
It proves that political parties are willing to run plants at the highest levels. Practically nobody except rachel maddow even batted an eye when this happened. No investigations, no big deal. Only a few pesky reporters, then it went away.
Maybe you're a clinton fan, I dunno. I don't trust the clintons much at all, and I think if they could do this and win - they would.
I honestly think trump could bow out at the convention, actually endorse Hilary, and you'd STILL say they weren't working together.
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It proves that political parties are willing to run plants at the highest levels.
no it doesn't
Practically nobody except rachel maddow even batted an eye when this happened. No investigations, no big deal. Only a few pesky reporters, then it went away.
Maybe you're a clinton fan, I dunno. I don't trust the clintons much at all, and I think if they could do this and win - they would.
I honestly think trump could bow out at the convention, actually endorse Hilary, and you'd STILL say they weren't working together.
I'll bet $1,000 right now (I'd bet you 10k but I doubt you have it) that doesn't happen
Are you ready to put up or shut up?
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no it doesn't
I'll bet $1,000 right now (I'd bet you 10k but I doubt you have it) that doesn't happen
Are you ready to put up or shut up?
fck no, I"m not going to gamble on politics. That'd just be silly.
I don't know how/when he'll eject himself from the race, or if he'll just ride it to the finish to ensure she wins. The end result will be hilary winning, and everyone in the country shaking their heads at how they've been trolled into allowing it. Betting $ on the convention exit would be silly.
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fck no, I"m not going to gamble on politics. That'd just be silly.
I don't know how/when he'll eject himself from the race, or if he'll just ride it to the finish to ensure she wins. The end result will be hilary winning, and everyone in the country shaking their heads at how they've been trolled into allowing it. Betting $ on the convention exit would be silly.
so no matter what happens you believe it's all proof of your "plant" CT?
no matter what Trump does it's all what a "Bill Clinton Plant" would do?
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so no matter what happens you believe it's all proof of your "plant" CT?
no matter what Trump does it's all what a "Bill Clinton Plant" would do?
Dude. FOX "News" is now wondering if Trump is trying to lose.
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=611942.0
So to be clear - do you think he's honestly trying to win the presidential election? Or are you somewhere in the middle? (Like, he'll try to lose, but not due to clinton coordination) ?
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Dude. FOX "News" is now wondering if Trump is trying to lose.
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=611942.0
So to be clear - do you think he's honestly trying to win the presidential election? Or are you somewhere in the middle? (Like, he'll try to lose, but not due to clinton coordination) ?
first stage of denial
presume he is trying to lose
by doing the same thing he did to win this far forward
but now he's trying to lose
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Trump is a lifelong liberal democrat Hillary buddy. Straw and the democrats deny this because they hate Trump and dont like being associated with him but essentially Trump is one of them more than anything.
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first stage of denial
presume he is trying to lose
by doing the same thing he did to win this far forward
but now he's trying to lose
The only one in denial is you who cant stand that Trump is a lifelong liberal democrat and more representative of the democrat party than anything else.
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Trump is a lifelong liberal democrat Hillary buddy. Straw and the democrats deny this because they hate Trump and dont like being associated with him but essentially Trump is one of them more than anything.
if theyr'e democrats - and I think they are - then they LOVE the idea of Hilary running against another dem. They win either way.
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The only one in denial is you who cant stand that Trump is a lifelong liberal democrat and more representative of the democrat party than anything else.
Trump is the Republican nominee because he was willing to say out loud and in public what Republicans usually only say behind closed doors (or get caught saying when they don't know the microphone is plugged in)
He a birther and a racist, bigot, boorish jackass and he appeals to the majority of primary voters in your party.
I'm honestly surprised you're not his biggest supporter
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if theyr'e democrats - and I think they are - then they LOVE the idea of Hilary running against another dem. They win either way.
tell me exactly how Dems win if Trump in POTUS (try to keep in mind that Paul Ryan just said a couple of days ago that the only reason he stills supports Trump is because they both want the same things)
Besides, isn't Trump supposed to bow out and then wait for Hillary to give him billions of dollars in government contracts. Isn't that why you think he running in the first place
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tell me exactly how Dems win if Trump in POTUS (try to keep in mind that Paul Ryan just said a couple of days ago that the only reason he stills supports Trump is because they both want the same things)
Besides, isn't Trump supposed to bow out and then wait for Hillary to give him billions of dollars in government contracts. Isn't that why you think he running in the first place
Im not a Trump fan because he is a liberal democrat trying to get hillary elected.
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Im not a Trump fan because he is a liberal democrat trying to get hillary elected.
If that were true it just shows how fucking stupid the vast majority of Republicans really are.
You believe your fellow Republicans got scammed by a liberal democrat
LOL
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If that were true it just shows how fucking stupid the vast majority of Republicans really are.
You believe your fellow Republicans got scammed by a liberal democrat
LOL
Yes - they were scammed. And what does it say of all the democrats voting for iraq war voting, anti gay marriage, goldmansachs money grubbing, hedge fund darling, Hillary?
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Im not a Trump fan because he is a liberal democrat trying to get hillary elected.
more and more people agree with this, man. The country is catching on.
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more and more people agree with this, man. The country is catching on.
the only two people I've seen who believe this are you and 333
Not exactly a brain trust
You've still never been able to explain the how and why of it either.
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the only two people I've seen who believe this are you and 333
Not exactly a brain trust
You've still never been able to explain the how and why of it either.
will you give me $10k for every political pundit or elected official who also has said they suspect trump is a demo/hilary plant?
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will you give me $10k for every political pundit or elected official who also has said they suspect trump is a demo/hilary plant?
I offered to bet you to give you the opportunity to put some money behind your own idiotic premise
Do you really need me to explain how a wager works?
Now, if you'd like to provide recent example of political pundits, elected officials or anyone who has RECENTLY said that Trump is a plant and can provide a coherent explanation as to why they believe that or even better some evidence that would be great.
Don't give me people who just threw it out as off handed speculation and don't provide me the same old one or two sentence speculations from a year ago (such as George Will, Jeb/George Bush etc..)
Can you do that?
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this isn't a wager on predicting when Trump will do something.
You said the only people who BELIEVE THIS are me and soulC. Well, at least add George will to the list - he's been writing articles and screaming it for nearly a year now, calling Trump a dem plant.
At least add HIM to the list with me and SC? his is way more than speculation offhanded. He truly believes it and has written multiple articles pushing for that.
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Ed Klein's writing goes far beyond offhand speculation -
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/ed-klein-bill-clinton-hillary-clinton-donald-trump/2015/08/09/id/669253/
He outright accuses Clinton of pushing Trump to win in order to nullify little jeb.
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In a long blog post dated July 13—just a few days after Trump stole Jeb Bush’s lead—Raimondo argued that the timing of Trump’s entry into the presidential race, which the candidate had long hinted at but until this year never followed through on, could only be explained by a hidden “Democratic wrecking operation” designed to assist Clinton’s parallel campaign:
[Trump’s] ties to the Clintons, his past pronouncements which are in such blatant contradiction to his current fulminations, and the cries of joy from the Clintonian gallery and the media (or do I repeat myself) all point to a single conclusion: the Trump campaign is a Democratic wrecking operation aimed straight at the GOP’s base.
Donald Trump is a false-flag candidate. It’s all an act, one that benefits his good friend Hillary Clinton and the Democratic party that, until recently, counted the reality show star among its adherents. Indeed, Trump’s pronouncements—the open racism, the demagogic appeals, the faux-populist rhetoric—sound like something out of a Democratic political consultant’s imagination, a caricature of conservatism as performed by a master actor.
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this isn't a wager on predicting when Trump will do something.
You said the only people who BELIEVE THIS are me and soulC. Well, at least add George will to the list - he's been writing articles and screaming it for nearly a year now, calling Trump a dem plant.
At least add HIM to the list with me and SC? his is way more than speculation offhanded. He truly believes it and has written multiple articles pushing for that.
pay attention
I offered you a 1k wager based on your claim
I honestly think trump could bow out at the convention, actually endorse Hilary,
that's the bet. Put your money where you mouth is or shut up
If you want to provide people who have recently said Trump is a plant (not just a one sentence speculation or musing) and can provide a coherent reason for their belief and even better some proof, that would be great
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In a long blog post dated July 13—just a few days after Trump stole Jeb Bush’s lead—Raimondo argued that the timing of Trump’s entry into the presidential race, which the candidate had long hinted at but until this year never followed through on, could only be explained by a hidden “Democratic wrecking operation” designed to assist Clinton’s parallel campaign:
[Trump’s] ties to the Clintons, his past pronouncements which are in such blatant contradiction to his current fulminations, and the cries of joy from the Clintonian gallery and the media (or do I repeat myself) all point to a single conclusion: the Trump campaign is a Democratic wrecking operation aimed straight at the GOP’s base.
Donald Trump is a false-flag candidate. It’s all an act, one that benefits his good friend Hillary Clinton and the Democratic party that, until recently, counted the reality show star among its adherents. Indeed, Trump’s pronouncements—the open racism, the demagogic appeals, the faux-populist rhetoric—sound like something out of a Democratic political consultant’s imagination, a caricature of conservatism as performed by a master actor.
Did you travel into the future to July 2016 or did you go a year into the past and offer the same exact unsubstantiated and stupid speculation which I specifically told you to not waste your time doing
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Ed Klein's writing goes far beyond offhand speculation -
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/ed-klein-bill-clinton-hillary-clinton-donald-trump/2015/08/09/id/669253/
He outright accuses Clinton of pushing Trump to win in order to nullify little jeb.
again, recycling the same speculative bullshit and also almost a year old
I told you exactly what to provide so get at it
Why is it so hard to do what I asked
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Here's a nice piece on the steps a dem plant WOULD take.
First attack the hispanics. Then attack the women.
Those 2 groups are the ones that repubs need in 2016 to win, in order. And that's how Trump attacked them, in order.
http://www.bustle.com/articles/151424-this-donald-trump-conspiracy-theory-will-put-your-tinfoil-hat-to-shame
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betting would be silly. you said only me and SC believe it. George Will is a highly popular conservative writer saying it also, and he's not kidding, so that is definitely not just me and SC>
Straw, do you plan to vote Hilary? If so, I can see why you'd want to hate on this idea. Trump in the race escorts her obtuse ass right to the white house.
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Here's a nice piece on the steps a dem plant WOULD take.
First attack the hispanics. Then attack the women.
Those 2 groups are the ones that repubs need in 2016 to win, in order. And that's how Trump attacked them, in order.
http://www.bustle.com/articles/151424-this-donald-trump-conspiracy-theory-will-put-your-tinfoil-hat-to-shame
WTF man ?
I can write all kinds of idiotic speculation too
It seems this is all you can provide and it's worthless
Seriously dude, why are you wasting your time?
All you're doing is making my point
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betting would be silly. you said only me and SC believe it.[/b] George Will is a highly popular conservative writer saying it also, and he's not kidding, so that is definitely not just me and SC>
Straw, do you plan to vote Hilary? If so, I can see why you'd want to hate on this idea. Trump in the race escorts her obtuse ass right to the white house.
We've already been over Georges Wills speculation and the bet that I offered you had nothing to do with proving that only you and 333 are idiots. You know this since I've explained it to you twice.
Can't you at least find a very current George will quote where he says he still believes this and explains in detail why
And of course you're not going to bet. You have no confidence in your own idiotic premise.
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We've already been over Georges Wills speculation and the bet that I offered you had nothing to do with proving that only you and 333 are idiots. You know this since I've explained it to you twice.
Can't you at least find a very current George will quote where he says he still believes this and explains in detail why
And of course you're not going to bet. You have no confidence in your own idiotic premise.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/if-trump-is-nominated-the-gop-must-keep-him-out-of-the-white-house/2016/04/29/293f7f94-0d9d-11e6-8ab8-9ad050f76d7d_story.html
Six weeks ago, Will called for him to be "purged" from the race because he's there to poison other races.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-gop-needs-new-rules-for-how-picks-its-nominee/2016/04/20/0124d8a0-0718-11e6-a12f-ea5aed7958dc_story.html
7 weeks ago, he said Trump was on a campaign to discredit the GOP
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/cruz-runs-rings-around-trumps-bush-league-convention-prep/2016/04/06/97528338-fc12-11e5-9140-e61d062438bb_story.html
8 weeks ago, he said trump's bad luck in primaries was 'by design'
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/if-trump-is-nominated-the-gop-must-keep-him-out-of-the-white-house/2016/04/29/293f7f94-0d9d-11e6-8ab8-9ad050f76d7d_story.html
Six weeks ago, Will called for him to be "purged" from the race because he's there to poison other races.
please just excerpt the part where he says he's a plant and explains why (and if he has evidence then post that part too)
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-gop-needs-new-rules-for-how-picks-its-nominee/2016/04/20/0124d8a0-0718-11e6-a12f-ea5aed7958dc_story.html
7 weeks ago, he said Trump was on a campaign to discredit the GOP
please just excerpt the part where he says he's a plant and explains why (and if he has evidence then post that part too)
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/cruz-runs-rings-around-trumps-bush-league-convention-prep/2016/04/06/97528338-fc12-11e5-9140-e61d062438bb_story.html
8 weeks ago, he said trump's bad luck in primaries was 'by design'
bad luck in the primaries?
by easily beating all opponents?
I don't get it but just excerpt the part where he says he's a plant and explains why
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/if-trump-is-nominated-the-gop-must-keep-him-out-of-the-white-house/2016/04/29/293f7f94-0d9d-11e6-8ab8-9ad050f76d7d_story.html
Six weeks ago, Will called for him to be "purged" from the race because he's there to poison other races.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-gop-needs-new-rules-for-how-picks-its-nominee/2016/04/20/0124d8a0-0718-11e6-a12f-ea5aed7958dc_story.html
7 weeks ago, he said Trump was on a campaign to discredit the GOP
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/cruz-runs-rings-around-trumps-bush-league-convention-prep/2016/04/06/97528338-fc12-11e5-9140-e61d062438bb_story.html
8 weeks ago, he said trump's bad luck in primaries was 'by design'
Seriously 240 ---- WTF?
I've now read all three of these article by George Will and he doesn't mention in any of them that he thinks Trump is a Democratic Plant
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Fat Hillary always needs another man to get ahead. Now she is using Donald to do her heavy lifting who is giving her cover.
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Seriously 240 ---- WTF?
I've now read all three of these article by George Will and he doesn't mention in any of them that he thinks Trump is a Democratic Plant
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you wanted recent mentions of trump. I guess you're now upset that he doesn't rehash this exact belief every week?
here is popular conservetive columnist George WIll telling the nation that Trump is a dem plant. I'm sorry if "several months ago" somehow makes this article expired for you. lol.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2015/07/05/brit_hume_if_donald_trump_was_a_democratic_mole_would_his_behavior_be_any_different.html
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you wanted recent mentions of trump. I guess you're now upset that he doesn't rehash this exact belief every week?
here is popular conservetive columnist George WIll telling the nation that Trump is a dem plant. I'm sorry if "several months ago" somehow makes this article expired for you. lol.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2015/07/05/brit_hume_if_donald_trump_was_a_democratic_mole_would_his_behavior_be_any_different.html
No one asked for "recent mentions" of Trump
It's hard to fathom how you can pretend to not know what I was asking for given my explicit request below (or you can just look at YOUR TITLE of this thread.)
I see you've decided once again to post a speculative article from last July
Seriously dude - you're either a fucking moron or a troll.
I've defended you when Bum called you a troll and I see no other alternative here (and trolling is your better claim at this point)
I offered to bet you to give you the opportunity to put some money behind your own idiotic premise
Do you really need me to explain how a wager works?
Now, if you'd like to provide recent example of political pundits, elected officials or anyone who has RECENTLY said that Trump is a plant and can provide a coherent explanation as to why they believe that or even better some evidence that would be great.
Don't give me people who just threw it out as off handed speculation and don't provide me the same old one or two sentence speculations from a year ago (such as George Will, Jeb/George Bush etc..)
Can you do that?
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you wanted recent mentions of trump. I guess you're now upset that he doesn't rehash this exact belief every week?
here is popular conservetive columnist George WIll telling the nation that Trump is a dem plant. I'm sorry if "several months ago" somehow makes this article expired for you. lol.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2015/07/05/brit_hume_if_donald_trump_was_a_democratic_mole_would_his_behavior_be_any_different.html
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Does the word context (thought experiment) mean anything to you?
So once again:
this isn't a wager on predicting when Trump will do something.
You said the only people who BELIEVE THIS are me and soulC. Well, at least add George will to the list - he's been writing articles and screaming it for nearly a year now, calling Trump a dem plant.
At least add HIM to the list with me and SC? his is way more than speculation offhanded. He truly believes it and has written multiple articles pushing for that.
can you or can you NOT?
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I think Trump is a plant - is he or Hillcunt ever going to admit it? Of course not.
But look at his actions - running an underfunded , non-existent national campaign, sabotoging efforts to get a GOTV machine in place in Nov., inflaming all of the hot button issues, going out of his way to inflame the media so that they give him endless negative bad press, focusing on petty issues like the law suit and other nonsense, etc.
Either he is a plant, doesnt want to win, or is throwing the election intentionally for some other reason - but the end result is the same - intentionally - that being Fat Hillcunt wins.
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I think Trump is a plant - is he or Hillcunt ever going to admit it? Of course not.
But look at his actions - running an underfunded , non-existent national campaign, sabotoging efforts to get a GOTV machine in place in Nov., inflaming all of the hot button issues, going out of his way to inflame the media so that they give him endless negative bad press, focusing on petty issues like the law suit and other nonsense, etc.
Either he is a plant, doesnt want to win, or is throwing the election intentionally for some other reason - but the end result is the same - intentionally - that being Fat Hillcunt wins.
yes, we know you two geniuses think he's a plant
his actions are exactly what led him to decisive victory in the primaries and he recently said he doesn't need to spend a lot of money because the media has given him so much free publicity.
This guy is acting just like a malignant narcissist would act, especially one who has so far only seen total success from his actions
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yes, we know you two geniuses think he's a plant
his actions are exactly what led him to decisive victory in the primaries and he recently said he doesn't need to spend a lot of money because the media has given him so much free publicity.
This guy is acting just like a malignant narcissist would act, especially one who has so far only seen total success from his actions
Then he is a total moron and not realizing the media was setting him up all along and now turned on him. Personally i detest Trump - he is a liar and a con man and even worse - a life long liberal democrat.
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Then he is a total moron and not realizing the media was setting him up all along and now turned on him. Personally i detest Trump - he is a liar and a con man and even worse - a life long liberal democrat.
yeah, the media was setting him up ::)
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I think Trump is a plant - is he or Hillcunt ever going to admit it? Of course not.
But look at his actions - running an underfunded , non-existent national campaign, sabotoging efforts to get a GOTV machine in place in Nov., inflaming all of the hot button issues, going out of his way to inflame the media so that they give him endless negative bad press, focusing on petty issues like the law suit and other nonsense, etc.
Either he is a plant, doesnt want to win, or is throwing the election intentionally for some other reason - but the end result is the same - intentionally - that being Fat Hillcunt wins.
DUDE !!!!
you came back!!!
and just in time for the fun this summer and fall.
now I can relax, all is well. SC / 333386 is back with the family.
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https://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/donald-trump-once-blogged-that-hillary-clinton-would-make-a?utm_term=.mmmqm4KRq#.qbz9N6zg9
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if he's a plant my vote is a ficus.
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Does the word context (thought experiment) mean anything to you?
So once again:
can you or can you NOT?
I guess not. lol
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-orlando_us_575d92e6e4b0e39a28addbe6
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-orlando_us_575d92e6e4b0e39a28addbe6
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he snatches defeat from the jaws of victory.
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he snatches defeat from the jaws of victory.
On purpose. >:(
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On purpose. >:(
Or he's just a narcissist acting the way a narcissist does and the way he's acted his entire life
no need to make up ridiculous CD's or project absurd beliefs onto his actions
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Or he's just a narcissist acting the way a narcissist does and the way he's acted his entire life
no need to make up ridiculous CD's or project absurd beliefs onto his actions
I dont think Trump is this naive when it comes to media mass marketing or organization. He isn't filling key roles in his team. His team is publicly fighting. He's run massive companies but cannot run a campaign? No, I don't think he's this naive. And he's VERY good at manipulating people. I don't believe he "accidentally" keeps saying racist/sexist shit which he knows alienates the hispanice/women he needs so badly.
Straw, I am not sure I ever quite understood your position- IF you knew Trump was a dem plant wokring to achieve your goal of a clinton presidency - would you admit it?
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I dont think Trump is this naive when it comes to media mass marketing or organization. He isn't filling key roles in his team. His team is publicly fighting. He's run massive companies but cannot run a campaign? No, I don't think he's this naive. And he's VERY good at manipulating people. I don't believe he "accidentally" keeps saying racist/sexist shit which he knows alienates the hispanice/women he needs so badly.
Straw, I am not sure I ever quite understood your position- IF you knew Trump was a dem plant wokring to achieve your goal of a clinton presidency - would you admit it?
I can't believe you are still on this board much less on this thread
when are you going to post recent articles by George Will where he says Trump is a Clinton Plant
Why aren't Bill Kristol, Romney and Will saying Trump in a plant every time they are in front of a camera or microphone?
Why are they even concerned about Trump when a genius such as yourself believes that Trump will bow out and endorse Hillary
You believe the presumptive Republican Nominee will bow out and endorse his Democratic rival (though of course you're too much of a pussy to put some money behind this insane statement)
Not just any Republican nominee but the one that calls his opponent Crooked Hillary and has said repeatedly that she should be in jail
He's going to bow out and endorse Hillary.....and then of course he'll sit back and wait for Hillary to give him billions of dollars in government contracts (a person that Hillary has said is mentally and emotionally unstable)
And yet, all the Never Trump people refuse to mention any of this when given the opportunity
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when are you going to post recent articles by George Will where he says Trump is a Clinton Plant
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I have a question - why is an article by him 10 months ago any less valid than one written 10 minutes ago?
I mean, Bush hasn't done any war crimes this year.... why do the old ones matter?
This entire premise is laughable - that you reject George Will's plant theory as false because "well, it's nearly a year old!"
Oz, your 30 point follow-up of it reeks of desperation. I have shared, repeatedly, the big article where will breaks it down. I cannot tell this nationally renowned author to go ahead and keep rewriting the same article each month because some getbiggers have 2-week expiration dates on common sense.
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I have a question - why is an article by him 10 months ago any less valid than one written 10 minutes ago?
I mean, Bush hasn't done any war crimes this year.... why do the old ones matter?
This entire premise is laughable - that you reject George Will's plant theory as false because "well, it's nearly a year old!"
Oz, your 30 point follow-up of it reeks of desperation. I have shared, repeatedly, the big article where will breaks it down. I cannot tell this nationally renowned author to go ahead and keep rewriting the same article each month because some getbiggers have 2-week expiration dates on common sense.
because everyone who mentioned the plant nonsense did nothing more then throw it out as mere speculation and haven't mentioned it since then
So they mused about it, often in nothing more than a tweet or a few sentences, offered zero proof and haven't mentioned it since. They obviously don't believe it now or they would continue to mention it, especially given that Trump is now the nominee and they are desperate to stop him
You really shouldn't need this explained to you but then again you're the idiot who thinks Trump will bow out and endorse Hillary and also the idiot who thinks Hillary is going to give Trump billions in government contracts
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I have a question - why is an article by him 10 months ago any less valid than one written 10 minutes ago?
I mean, Bush hasn't done any war crimes this year.... why do the old ones matter?
This entire premise is laughable - that you reject George Will's plant theory as false because "well, it's nearly a year old!"
Oz, your 30 point follow-up of it reeks of desperation. I have shared, repeatedly, the big article where will breaks it down. I cannot tell this nationally renowned author to go ahead and keep rewriting the same article each month because some getbiggers have 2-week expiration dates on common sense.
No, just trying to make you accountable for your statement.
Will you or will you not? either you can back up your statement or you cannot
guess not lol
If you can back up your statement i have no problem admitting i was wrong,and i won't squirm and dodge for days over it.
Just show us where Will is screaming trump is a plant!!!
Or admit you were just playing sir spin alot.
Its all good either way 240. You make all sorts of other great points all the time. Just sometimes i think your mouth overloads you ass. :D
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Oz - do you think Trump is trying to lose?
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Oz - do you think Trump is trying to lose?
No, I think he is an egomaniac that doesn't like to listen to advice. He's had full control all his life. In a company you don't have to worry as much about what people think, you can just do it and they have to live with it or quit. Politics is a whole different ball game as well as working with people in a campaign.
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No, I think he is an egomaniac that doesn't like to listen to advice. He's had full control all his life. In a company you don't have to worry as much about what people think, you can just do it and they have to live with it or quit. Politics is a whole different ball game as well as working with people in a campaign.
He listens to advice...from himself. You're obviously forgetting that he has a very good brain and he's said a lot of things
Asked on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” who he talks with consistently about foreign policy, Trump responded, “I’m speaking with myself, number one, because I have a very good brain and I’ve said a lot of things."
"I know what I’m doing and I listen to a lot of people, I talk to a lot of people and at the appropriate time I’ll tell you who the people are," Trump said. “But my primary consultant is myself and I have a good instinct for this stuff."
Read more: http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-gop-primary-live-updates-and-results/2016/03/trump-foreign-policy-adviser-220853#ixzz4BZLWzY6r
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btw - now that you've told 240 you don't think Trump is a plant he will come back to you with something like....."well what IF he were a plant" and then just continue on with his bullshit
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He listens to advice...from himself. You're obviously forgetting that he has a very good brain and he's said a lot of things
He's always seemed to me like a guy who doesn't like being told he's wrong. And as a result he surrounded himself with "yes" men.
btw - now that you've told 240 you don't think Trump is a plant he will come back to you with something like....."well what IF he were a plant" and then just continue on with his bullshit
Yeah, he's was talking out his ass and can't back it up. So now after failing to twist the discussion away from his BS he just ignoring it.
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He's always seemed to me like a guy who doesn't like being told he's wrong. And as a result he surrounded himself with "yes" men.
Yeah, he's was talking out his ass and can't back it up. So now after failing to twist the discussion away from his BS he just ignoring it.
what? George will, among others, claimed it. You want more recent, that's cool.
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Donald Trump has no intention of being POTUS - you can hear it in his language he uses. Fat Ass Hillary is already looking more presidential while Trump wallows in the weeds w stupid speeches on nonsense, speaks in vague and bumbling phrases with no connection to the truth or detail etc.
I just hope he can be replaced sooner rather than later
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what? George will, among others, claimed it. You want more recent, that's cool.
i just want what you claimed:
Well, at least add George will to the list - he's been writing articles and screaming it for nearly a year now, calling Trump a dem plant.
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Donald Trump has no intention of being POTUS - you can hear it in his language he uses. Fat Ass Hillary is already looking more presidential while Trump wallows in the weeds w stupid speeches on nonsense, speaks in vague and bumbling phrases with no connection to the truth or detail etc.
I just hope he can be replaced sooner rather than later
WTF happened to the GOP? lol
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WTF happened to the GOP? lol
The primary voters were easily fooled by Trump - sadly - not a good commentary on the electorate
I wanted to like the guy - i wanted to support him, i watched every debate, every one of them - the fact is that he wings it all the time, is not really educated on many topics, and just is having a ball out there.
My bet and hunch is that he just playing everyone for fools in this - he knows hillary is going to win, doesnt mind at all, is happy he knocked out all the other repubs from challenging her, and is just going to go back to biz as usual after the election while we are stuck w the evil corrupt bitch
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i just want what you claimed:
I know your debate tactics, and I know what you are doing here.
You do the same thing with CTs. you'll waste 2 weeks debating semantics. It's cool, that's how some folks like to argue.
Trump is a dem plant, many prominent repubs agree, and the grumblings about it are growing. He may get the boot at the convention, he may not. His goal is clinton white house.
Why don't you do what you do on 911 CTs.... pretend to mock CTers while agree with half of what they say :)
What's your take - Is trump really this stupid/incompetent all of a sudden, or is this intentional?
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and is just going to go back to biz as usual after the election while we are stuck w the evil corrupt bitch
OR he's going to get a ton of $ building things for the govt for her majesty hilary.
He's likely worth a few hundred million... he's nowhere near ten billion. Nine of that is the "value of his name" as he estimates it.
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I know your debate tactics, and I know what you are doing here.
You do the same thing with CTs. you'll waste 2 weeks debating semantics. It's cool, that's how some folks like to argue.
Trump is a dem plant, many prominent repubs agree, and the grumblings about it are growing. He may get the boot at the convention, he may not. His goal is clinton white house.
Why don't you do what you do on 911 CTs.... pretend to mock CTers while agree with half of what they say :)
What's your take - Is trump really this stupid/incompetent all of a sudden, or is this intentional?
No need for all the drama, 240 (you are doing exactly what i said you would be doing lol)
just back up what you claimed.
Can you or can you not?
PS: just because i routinely and soundly debunk CT'ers doesn't mean i trying to do that with you. Just back up what you claimed is all i am asking.
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what? George will, among others, claimed it. You want more recent, that's cool.
he never claimed it to be true
he proposed the concept as a "thought experiment" and mused about the effect it would have on the upcoming (at that time) Republican debates
He also said that Republicans are "uniquely identified with the unfortunate people in their own party" Try to unpack that shit. What I think he's doing is making an excuse for why a person like Trump was having success in attracting Republicans to him.
He's making excuses for why his fellow Republicans are choosing Trump rather than someone that a "real" Republican like George Will would prefer.
You can watch it all right here from July 5th, 2015
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2015/07/05/brit_hume_if_donald_trump_was_a_democratic_mole_would_his_behavior_be_any_different.html
He could have proposed the "thought experiment" that Donald Trump might be shapeshifting Reptilian and you would have just run with it claimed that George Will has he's been writing articles and screaming it for nearly a year now that Trump is a shapeshifting Reptilian.
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What is wrong with you 240?
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OR he's going to get a ton of $ building things for the govt for her majesty hilary.
He's likely worth a few hundred million... he's nowhere near ten billion. Nine of that is the "value of his name" as he estimates it.
Christie would have been far better than Trump
Bloomberg still im my opinion would have been the best to take that evil witch on. All he would have to do is moderate his gun bs saying he knows NYC is not the nation etc and he would have been able to appeal to the most people
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What is wrong with you 240?
profound stupidity would be my guess
I offered him the opportunity to admit he was trolling but he seems to actually believe this nonsense and he's built it out much further than George Will's thought experiment
240 has added that Trump will bow out and endorse Hillary and that Hillary will bestow billions of dollars on government contracts to Trump
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http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2016/02/is-trump-a-democratic-party-agent.php
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http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2016/02/is-trump-a-democratic-party-agent.php
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you're not really a lawyer are you?
This guy claims that if Trump is so stupid not to disavow the KKK then the only conclusion is he must be a Democratic Plant
That's pretty solid reasoning...provided you spent your childhood eating paint chips and inhaling glue
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you're not really a lawyer are you?
This guy claims that if Trump is so stupid not to disavow the KKK then the only conclusion is he must be a Democratic Plant
That's pretty solid reasoning...provided you spent your childhood eating paint chips and inhaling glue
Trump is setting up situations he knows are toxic and inflaming all of the regular issues on purpose. notice he is not talking about Obamas failed presidency, hillary failed life in general, the economy, etc?
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Trump is setting up situations he knows are toxic and inflaming all of the regular issues on purpose. notice he is not talking about Obamas failed presidency, hillary failed life in general, the economy, etc?
on purpose with the intent to win the White House
the same strategy he used to win the Republican nomination
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on purpose with the intent to win the White House
the same strategy he used to win the Republican nomination
There was a field of 17 - he simply got the most media and rode that wave. That is vastly different than is what is needed in a general eleection and we and he knows it.
Since winning - he is getting even worse - on purpose - because he has no intention of being POTUS
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There was a field of 17 - he simply got the most media and rode that wave. That is vastly different than is what is needed in a general eleection and we and he knows it.
Since winning - he is getting even worse - on purpose - because he has no intention of being POTUS
He simply got more votes than any other Republican candidate and now he is simply following the same exact strategy that he used to win the primaries
Nothing more complicated than that but I understand that you don't like him so you want to make any nutty excuse as to why he is the overwhelming choice of your fellow Republicans
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http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/06/today-in-trump-campaign-is-a-garbage-fire.html
Today in ‘Donald Trump’s Campaign Is a Garbage Fire’
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Donald Trump, reports Maggie Haberman, has fired Corey Lewandowski in what could be seen as either the most recent campaign shake-up, or merely the latest iteration of an endless power struggle that has seen figures like Lewandowski, Roger Stone, and Paul Manafort cycle in and out of the candidate’s earshot. When the operation in question is a garbage fire like the Trump-for-president operation, terms like “campaign manager,” which imply a cohesive entity that is managed in some hierarchical fashion, may not even apply.
Trump’s campaign, reports the Associated Press, has 30 paid staff on the ground across the United States of America. That is a smaller number than the Hillary Clinton campaign has in many states. Clinton’s massive ground advantage is supplemented by an even more massive television-advertising advantage. The current ratio of Clinton to Trump television-ad spending in battleground states is one to zero. (Data via NBC News, chart via the Washington Post.)
Trump has previously vowed to campaign in deep-blue states like New York, California, and Maryland, where no Republican could win. He has devoted at least some of his scarce resources to this hopeless goal. Meanwhile, polls show him locked in a close race in overwhelmingly Republican Utah, where he has promised the state's party chairman he will spend campaign time to lock down the Republican vote. If you’re a Republican presidential candidate devoting resources to Utah, that’s real bad. Trump is also spending some of his time this week on a trip to Scotland, where he will visit a golf course and discuss the Brexit vote. Scotland is not represented in the Electoral College and has very few eligible voters.
Meanwhile, Bloomberg reports that Trump mistakenly identified the perpetrator of the mass shooting in Orlando as foreign-born because “Staffers had accidentally uploaded the wrong version of the speech into the teleprompters.” Also, “Trump doesn't carry a mobile phone or use e-mail, giving staff in close proximity—most often Lewandowsi—greater influence.” It’s probably helpful for Trump that a rank amateur like Lewandowski is gone. But when the candidate is also a rank amateur and can be manipulated by whichever staffer happens to be in close physical proximity, and fails to use modern communications tools, then you have a garbage fire that is going to keep burning for a while.
Trump dominated the Republican primary because he mastered one weird trick. The trick was to constantly spout wild and offensive comments, frequently targeted at women or people of other races or nationalities, generating a constant stream of news coverage focused on Trump’s latest outrage. Since most Republican voters really like outrageous comments, especially when they’re directed at women and people of other races or nationalities, this technique worked well enough to overcome Trump’s massive strategic and organizational liabilities as a candidate. But since most voters in the electorate as a whole feel differently, Trump’s outrageousness is now compounding rather than hiding his technical incompetence.
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FLASHBACK FRIDAY: TRUMP'S BORDERS TONE USED TO BE A LOT DIFFERENT
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When news of Brexit reached Donald Trump he was quick to praise it, calling the decision “a beautiful thing,” and saying he was glad to see the UK “take their country back.”
“The people of the United Kingdom have exercised the sacred right of all free peoples,” Trump said. “They have declared their independence from the European Union and have voted to reassert control over their own politics, borders, and economy.”
But that wasn’t always Trump’s perspective on the European Union.
In an op-ed by Trump in January 2013 for CNN, Trump made comments regarding a global cohesive economy that are in stark contrast to the rhetoric of his 2016 presidential campaign, calling on countries to “leave borders behind for global unity.”
“The near meltdown we experienced a few years ago made it clear that our economic health depended on dependence on each other to do the right thing,” Trump argued.
“There won't be any winners or losers as this is not a competition. It's a time for working together for the best of all involved. Never before has the phrase "we're all in this together" had more resonance or relevance.”
The GOP nominee even went on to express support for a globalist sharing economy.
“I've long been a believer in the "look at the solution, not the problem" theory. In this case, the solution is clear. We will have to leave borders behind and go for global unity when it comes to financial stability.”
In conclusion, Trump declared, “The future of Europe, as well as the United States, depends on a cohesive global economy. All of us must work together toward that very significant common goal.”
Trump’s description of Europe as a “colorful” tapestry that we must preserve “without losing any cultural flavor in the process” is almost comical given his tough talk in 2016.
Trump can say he predicted Brexit, but according to this 2013 article, it
- See more at: https://www.conservativereview.com/commentary/2016/06/trump-was-for-open-borders-before-he-was-against-them#sthash.SVz2gF1G.dpuf
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There was a field of 17 - he simply got the most media and rode that wave. That is vastly different than is what is needed in a general eleection and we and he knows it.
Since winning - he is getting even worse - on purpose - because he has no intention of being POTUS
This is true.
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This is true.
which part do you think is true?
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yeah, you have to wonder at what point Trump decided he no longer wanted to be a globalist open-borders trade guy, and suddenly wanted to become a jingoist isolationist.
Probably about the time he realized it'd be a winning strategy in the primaries.