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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Nutrition, Products & Supplements Info => Topic started by: Roger Bacon on November 21, 2013, 03:19:27 PM
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Is SOY good or bad, or okay?
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Is SOY good or bad, or okay?
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Good or bad for what?
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I think there are much better choices out there.
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I think there are much better choices out there.
For what?
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For what?
In place of soy whether you want to use it for vegetarian purposes, protein purposes, estrogenic purposes, etc.
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In place of soy whether you want to use it for vegetarian purposes, protein purposes, estrogenic purposes, etc.
Okay, why do you think that? That's not a challenge, by the way; I'm curious what people think of soy.
IMO, soy's biggest detriment is that it is among the top GMO/engineered crops. I think it's estrogen effect on men is more than a little exaggerated.
I don't advocate any form of soy for the majority of protein intake for anyone, but I feel that it has fallen into that category of foods that are inaccurately assigned blanket statements of negativity.
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Good or bad for what?
Decent protein? Will it make me grow breasts? Nutritious?
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Not to make it my main source, but are soy based food sources "okay" or should they be avoided?
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Okay, why do you think that? That's not a challenge, by the way; I'm curious what people think of soy.
IMO, soy's biggest detriment is that it is among the top GMO/engineered crops. I think it's estrogen effect on men is more than a little exaggerated.
I don't advocate any form of soy for the majority of protein intake for anyone, but I feel that it has fallen into that category of foods that are inaccurately assigned blanket statements of negativity.
Yes, not concerned about GMO because any soy products I eat are organic.
I got some organic vegi burgers on sale that have lots of soy. I like the taste of them. Should I eat them?
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if you want to look like a soft body skinny fat asian
EAT MORE SOY
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Yes, not concerned about GMO because any soy products I eat are organic.
I got some organic vegi burgers on sale that have lots of soy. I like the taste of them. Should I eat them?
I don't rate soy for supporting anabolism since it is not a complete protein; as with most plant-based proteins, soy lacks specific amino acids that carnivorous food sources possess.
It is certainly estrogenic in certain amounts. Personally, I believe the degree to which one is affected in this capacity is influenced by individual biochemistry (your own body's unique response), and the amount of soy consumed. Having a glass of soy milk per day will probably yield a negligible effect on most guys. Having a glass with every meal is a gray area. Relying on soy as your only protein source is the pinnacle of idiocy.
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if you want to look like a soft body skinny fat asian
That's what I was going for! ;D
I don't rate soy for supporting anabolism since it is not a complete protein; as with most plant-based proteins, soy lacks specific amino acids that carnivorous food sources possess.
It is certainly estrogenic in certain amounts. Personally, I believe the degree to which one is affected in this capacity is influenced by individual biochemistry (your own body's unique response), and the amount of soy consumed. Having a glass of soy milk per day will probably yield a negligible effect on most guys. Having a glass with every meal is a gray area. Relying on soy as your only protein source is the pinnacle of idiocy.
Thank you sir, exactly what I wanted to know.
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Ok.
Estrogen=soy
Test= ??
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Ok.
Estrogen=soy
Test= ??
beef baby
buffalo...
deer
essentially any ruminant
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Ok.
Estrogen=soy
Test= ??
Test=saturated fats and cholesterol
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Soy: What's the Harm?
http://www.veganhealth.org/articles/soy_wth
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None of the supplement companies are running soy.
I just came across a study which stated that soy isoflavones inhibit creatine absorption by the body.
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Since over 90% of soy grown in the US is a GMO, it's reason enough to avoid it. :-X
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2010/09/18/soy-can-damage-your-health.aspx
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Since over 90% of soy grown in the US is a GMO, it's reason enough to avoid it. :-X
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2010/09/18/soy-can-damage-your-health.aspx
Buzzkill.
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Buzzkill.
Troll
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Troll
Hey, don't talk about Princess that way!
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Hey, don't talk about Princess that way!
:)
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Since over 90% of soy grown in the US is a GMO, it's reason enough to avoid it. :-X
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2010/09/18/soy-can-damage-your-health.aspx
Okay, didn't realize it was that bad!
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rofl
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30s attention span here... crib notes?
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30s attention span here... crib notes?
Brandon Lilly: I just totaled 2204 drinking soy milk, Thanks!
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Brandon Lilly: I just totaled 2204 drinking soy milk, Thanks!
uhuh
15 grams
dead by 50
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Moderate consumption is associated with reduced risk of cardiac disease and a couple cancers. I think eating soy a couple times a week is a good idea.
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I think Michael Pollan expressed it perfectly:
"Eat food. Not too much. Mostly plants."
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Moderate consumption is associated with reduced risk of cardiac disease and a couple cancers. I think eating soy a couple times a week is a good idea.
total bullshit
check out who funded those studies
and once again
correlation IS NOT causation