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How about teaching your kid to keep their pants and legs shut, but I guess this too much responsibility for parents..
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LOL conservatives who don't understand that morning after pill is birth control and not abortion pill.
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LOL conservatives who don't understand that morning after pill is birth control and not abortion pill.
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Apparently you morons missed the part that FIFTEEN YEAR OLDS don't need a prescription to get it. Actually you probably did but could careless.
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Go to the poorest areas of the nation where people are having kids at the youngest ages. Do the math. Offer a completely scholarship to a state college, maybe one year worth, to any 12 year old willing to get a 10-year birth control device. It wouldn't cost much... put the $ in a full 6 years before they need it. Don't pay for all 4 years, but hey, what's 24 credit hours cost?
Take the shot and you cannot get preggos at age 13. Maybe you don't choose to go to school. Maybe you ignore parents and whore about. But you don't get pregnant. And watch how many kids grow up by age 22 and decide a baby in their teens is a bad idea. look at the MATH of paying welfare for 3 kids for 18 years. Then look at the price of 8 college classes. Well worth it.
I bet in a one generation of this VOLUNTARY program, the number of babies on welfare would PLUMMET while education levels skyrocket. Like or dislike?
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Dude, in California a school nurse can't give a 15 year old am asprin without a parents permission.
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Stop the act Coach and admit that you secretly love it when the other team does something you reckon reprehensible.
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Coach, your below retard level spelling and grammar "disscusts" me even though I should care less
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Anyone who opposes birth control or abortion should be forced to pay more for welfare babies.
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Dude, in California a school nurse can't give a 15 year old am asprin without a parents permission.
i taught middle school in a VERY poor school for 2 years. I know about the beaucratic BS, I know some kids are sweethearts and some are murderous whores. I think this age - middle school - is when criminals become criminals and doctors become doctors. This is when you save them or lose them, and looking at the current state of things, well, I am not optimistic.
I'm under the belief that nothing will improve by trying to fix teachers or teach morality, given the state of things. I grew up in Catholic school and I looked at the cross on the wall when I thought about doing something bad. Today's kids look for a security camera. Huge difference. Self-regulation is GONE these days.
That being said, a ten-year birth control device would solve most tennage pregnancy. And that would lead to MANY of these problems just going away. It's the only way to stop this cycle that I can see. We can hope for lofty "bring back religion to schools" but realistically, that will never happen. So all I look at it realistic solutions that people would like - and free college (or just $1000 at age 12 to take that 10 year shot) would probably work great. People love money.
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Coach, your below retard level spelling and grammar "disscusts" me even though I should care less
Stick with the subject. I'm typing on a phone.
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Anyone who opposes birth control or abortion should be forced to pay more for welfare babies.
So true.
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Anyone who opposes birth control or abortion should be forced to pay more for welfare babies.
We already do. Maybe a fund for irresponsible parenting might be in order. But then again, kids that age do (or should) know right from wrong.
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Anyone who opposes birth control or abortion should be forced to pay more for welfare babies.
Abortion should be mandatory for anyone on welfare.
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Abortion should be mandatory for anyone on welfare.
Great, another baby killer on here. How about adoption? There are a lot of couples who want kids but can't.
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Great, another baby killer on here. How about adoption? There are a lot of couples who want kids but can't.
There are a lot of kids who want to be adopted but aren`t. :-\
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There are a lot of kids who want to be adopted but aren`t. :-\
The brown ones.
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There are a lot of kids who want to be adopted but aren`t. :-\
So we should kill them ???
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Great, another baby killer on here. How about adoption? There are a lot of couples who want kids but can't.
I was adopted, I still support abortion of those on welfare. Why don't you adopt any kids? There are plenty in foster care and in the system.. if you are so passionate about this, go adopt an 8 yr old african american boy who is looking to be adopted. You never will. There are way more kids in the system, looking to be adopted compared to adoptive parents.
Luckily for me I was a genetically elite child, with blonde hair blue eyes and intelligent parents who just happened to get pregnant young. I was adopted at about a month old.
I use to be heavily against abortion, since well.. I could have been aborted, but I am sick of supporting people on welfare.
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Anyone who opposes birth control or abortion should be forced to pay more for welfare babies.
That's just plain dumb.
Why would I be responsible in any way for someone else's inability to control their urges?
Weak trolling bait
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And do these same pro-lifers support multiple wars overseas brought forth under questionable circumstances? Thump that Bible all you want, but in reality, very few self-proclaimed Christians act as true Christians.......I'd safely say they are not found on this forum.
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And do these same pro-lifers support multiple wars overseas brought forth under questionable circumstances? Thump that Bible all you want, but in reality, very few self-proclaimed Christians act as true Christians.......I'd safely say they are not found on this forum.
Nothing to do with being Christian or not, its about commonsense.
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This thread headed into the direction predicted. TA with some good insights.
If you are a shitty parent your 15 year old daughter is going to have sex, might as well prevent a pregnancy. If you are a good parent your child will probably be fine. Access to birth control isn't going to make her want to have sex,shitty parenting is.
Seriously do conservatives not understand the concept of harm reduction?
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This thread headed into the direction predicted. TA with some good insights.
If you are a shitty parent your 15 year old daughter is going to have sex, might as well prevent a pregnancy. If you are a good parent your child will probably be fine. Access to birth control isn't going to make her want to have sex,shitty parenting is.
Seriously do conservatives not understand the concept of harm reduction?
I think 15 year olds will have sex even with the best parents you can ask for. I don`t agree that just because a 15 year old is having sex, that somehow means there is bad parenting involved. It is perfectly normal for 15 year olds to have and to want sex, nothing to do with parenting.
A good parent would educate them on safe sex and how horrible it would be to have a child at a young age. Also, a good parent would talk about abortion and tell them, if they ever needed one, they would support them fully.
All walks of life get abortions, from the very wealthy to the very poor and everyone in between. My friends used to come to my mother at times, asking her to help pay for abortions because they were too scared to tell their parents or their parents were religious nutcases or they just didn`t feel comfortable talking to their parents about it. My mother always helped them out, gave them the money and that was that. One of the people who came to my mom later worked in DC doing legal work for a Republican Congressman and is a practicing lawyer.
Its safe to say their lives would have been ruined otherwise.
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That being said, a ten-year birth control device would solve most tennage pregnancy.
You indicate that the program is voluntary. It would only (more or less) solve the problem of teenage pregnancy if there were enough volunteers, and it isn't at all clear that there would be.
We can hope for lofty "bring back religion to schools" but realistically, that will never happen.
A religious approach would likely emphasize abstinence only sex education, a failed policy. So it seems it wouldn't help the situation overmuch, putting aside the fact that it will never happen anyway.
So all I look at it realistic solutions
Most Americans are still horrified of killing human embryos at a phase when they are a pathetically small collection of cells with zero neural activity -- preferring to treat them as if they are like you and me -- yet you think it's realistic to start locking children into binding agreements that require the government to surgically install devices into their genitalia in order to control their reproductive habits? OK.
People love money.
So why not just give them money, then? Most of the kids won't end up in college anyway ('most' in the logical sense of 50+1% or more).
Several countries have 'conditional cash transfer' (CCT) programs which initiate cash deposits to poor persons based on their behavior. I don't know much about them, but I read good things about their efficacy. Rather than usher in some dystopian future of forced surgical procedures, a CCT program is a non-invasive solution that would incentivize behaviors that tend to minimize teenage pregnancy (continued educational attainment, attending a sex ed class, etc.) with cash to the mother's account(s). If you link such a program with welfare benefits more generally, there'd be even more incentive for even more people to act in a way conducive to solving the problem.
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I think 15 year olds will have sex even with the best parents you can ask for. I don`t agree that just because a 15 year old is having sex, that somehow means there is bad parenting involved. It is perfectly normal for 15 year olds to have and to want sex, nothing to do with parenting.
A good parent would educate them on safe sex and how horrible it would be to have a child at a young age. Also, a good parent would talk about abortion and tell them, if they ever needed one, they would support them fully.
All walks of life get abortions, from the very wealthy to the very poor and everyone in between. My friends used to come to my mother at times, asking her to help pay for abortions because they were too scared to tell their parents or their parents were religious nutcases or they just didn`t feel comfortable talking to their parents about it. My mother always helped them out, gave them the money and that was that. One of the people who came to my mom later worked in DC doing legal work for a Republican Congressman and is a practicing lawyer.
Its safe to say their lives would have been ruined otherwise.
Spot on, fully agree with everything you said in this post.
Having sex is nothing immoral but one of the most natural things in life and 15 year olds will want to have sex no matter how they've been brought up..
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Abstinence is a cool idea, but in real world it does not work that way. Kids that are taught that sex is something bad or immoral and should be done after marriage tend to be just as much if not more irresponsible as kids that are taught sex is OK if you're using condom and/or (depending on situation) pills. Actually kids who are aware of the dangers and risks but aren't brainwashed by catholic propaganda of "dirty sex" have less problems with their sexuality in the adolescence, overall better sexual life and are way more responsible.
This is based on my own personal data as well as information from my father who is a gynecologist. Sex is nothing more than just yet another very pleasant activity you can do in your life and now that we have 100% effective means to prevent pregnancy it's all about education.
I think with so much free shit our goverments give every day to everyone it wouldn't be stupid to just give free pills/condoms to kids and grant them free medical care from gynecologist (through some kind of school program) without presence of parents.
With that being said, day after pills from what I know are simply dangerous and shouldn't be consumed like tic-tacs.
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Tax Breaks (no income tax perhaps even) and other incentives for people who do not have children. ;)
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Abortion is THE single BEST way to reduce crime.
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Tax Breaks (no income tax perhaps even) and other incentives for people who do not have children. ;)
This does not solve the problem. Having too many kids is strongly associated with being a moron. Do you think a moron can calculate? They just are cheap on pregnancy pills. They are too stupid to see that pill costs way less than a kid, they do not even know what tax break is. They would think you want to hurt them.
Oh and by the way, do you know who uses illegal abortion? This is description of typical woman that goes to doctor to have illegal abortion:
- >40 yo or <20 yo
- uneducated
- POOR (!) - how do they afford it is a mystery but no one asks questions
- goes to church every sunday
- secretive, no one ever gets to know
That's the truth man. How do I know that? I just do, you can believe me or not, that's not my problem. I do not sell anything ;)
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Coach, in a perfect world most of us would agree that abortion is not the best the thing.
but at some point you have to deal with reality. Most of the kids having babies are from broken homes, limited education, no financial resources and above all NO guidance. Why should one mistake lead to a repeat of this cycle? As 240 points out, kids will have sex and some will get pregnant.
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We already do. Maybe a fund for irresponsible parenting might be in order. But then again, kids that age do (or should) know right from wrong.
In many households, your "right" is their "wrong", and your "wrong" is their "right". And then there is this "act before thinking" thing...it's mind boggling.
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Great, another baby killer on here. How about adoption? There are a lot of couples who want kids but can't.
yes! like gay couples that god gobblers such as yourself oppose.
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This thread headed into the direction predicted. TA with some good insights.
If you are a shitty parent your 15 year old daughter is going to have sex, might as well prevent a pregnancy. If you are a good parent your child will probably be fine. Access to birth control isn't going to make her want to have sex,shitty parenting is.
Seriously do conservatives not understand the concept of harm reduction?
Thats a pretty broad statement.
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Great, another baby killer on here. How about adoption? There are a lot of couples who want kids but can't.
Yes, gay couples. So you fully support their right to adopt? I underestimated you, good job.
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yes! like gay couples that god gobblers such as yourself oppose.
You beat me to it. We have to agree that coach isn't as closed-minded as we figured.
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cool, make it money.... $2000 CASH at age 12 to take a 10 year birth control shot. I bet the parents in poor areas will line up to put their kids on that shot at age 12. no doubt.
Even if you take college out of it... Do the math on cost of 18 years of welfare + medical VS a one-time $2000 stimulus package to a group that will spend every cent of it.
I think it'd be successful... in one generation, the number of pregnancies would plummet, having a cumulative effect on the next generation. WOuldn't cost that much for long as a new generation of poor, dependent people aren't born.
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They should pin bright red "Ws" (instead of "As") on the youngsters...although in his day and age, that would seen as a sign of coolness... ;D
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Apparently you morons missed the part that FIFTEEN YEAR OLDS don't need a prescription to get it. Actually you probably did but could careless.
Fifteen year olds do not need to be having babies EVER! They should have dispensers in every high school, middle school and on every street corner in the ghetto, barrrio, low income and backwoods towns
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I see a future where you will have to meet certain requirements to be able to have a baby.
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Fifteen year olds do not need to be having babies EVER! They should have dispensers in every high school, middle school and on every street corner in the ghetto, barrrio, low income and backwoods towns
Coach is for small government, i.e., a government focussed on interfering in everyone's personal choices. Can't get much smaller than that.
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Most Americans are still horrified of killing human embryos at a phase when they are a pathetically small collection of cells with zero neural activity -- preferring to treat them as if they are like you and me -- yet you think it's realistic to start locking children into binding agreements that require the government to surgically install devices into their genitalia in order to control their reproductive habits? OK.
parents make medical decisions for their kids all the time.
This one tosses in a $2000 motivation for parents to choose one way or another ;)
For most parents, "I wont become a grandmother when my kid is 14, and I get two grand?" is a no-brainer lol. Parents make WAY bigger decisions for their kids every day.
Honestly, it would have it's haters - they dont have to participate! And even if people sued it down.... give it 5 years of existence and welfare costs will plummet.
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I see a future where you will have to meet certain requirements to be able to have a baby.
It'll never pass. It should, but it won't. The same conservatives crying over unwanted pregnancies are the same hicks who will oppose actual restrictions. "... because they infringe upon personal freedom!" Yeah, and trying to mandate people's sex lives doesn't. ::)
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I see a future where you will have to meet certain requirements to be able to have a baby.
Maybe elsewhere - NOT in the USA. The birth rate here has pretty much levels off, as has population growth at 310 million or so.
People going to school, waiting longer to have babies... it's blowing up elsewhere, but not here. Welfare getting harder to obtain, and education does work.
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Fifteen year olds do not need to be having babies EVER! They should have dispensers in every high school, middle school and on every street corner in the suburb, ghetto, barrrio, low income and backwoods towns
Fixed...
Many of the young girls from the 'burbs go to the free clinic to get stuff.
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parents make medical decisions for their kids all the time.
This one tosses in a $2000 motivation for parents to choose one way or another ;)
For most parents, "I wont become a grandmother when my kid is 14, and I get two grand?" is a no-brainer lol. Parents make WAY bigger decisions for their kids every day.
Honestly, it would have it's haters - they dont have to participate! And even if people sued it down.... give it 5 years of existence and welfare costs will plummet.
Exactly. As a US parent it is legal to kill (negligent homicide?) your kids by refusing to have them vaccinated. So this would have to be allowed as well.
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Maybe elsewhere - NOT in the USA. The birth rate here has pretty much levels off, as has population growth at 310 million or so.
People going to school, waiting longer to have babies... it's blowing up elsewhere, but not here. Welfare getting harder to obtain, and education does work.
I wonder if our goverment would ever have the balls to even think of passing a law like this.
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I wonder if our goverment would ever have the balls to even think of passing a law like this.
necessity is the mother of invention. Welfare gets broker and broker, maybe they do it. In OTHER countries, woudl be WAY more effective. In USA, the population is stable.
We complain about welfare moms, but the cost of handing pallets of 100s to crooked leaders on other side of world is WAY bigger than what welfare moms siphon each month.
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Many of the young girls from the 'burbs go to the free clinic to get stuff.
I thought i had the mid income girls covered with middle/high school access to the drugs. Most actually attend school in the burbs
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necessity is the mother of invention. Welfare gets broker and broker, maybe they do it. In OTHER countries, woudl be WAY more effective. In USA, the population is stable.
We complain about welfare moms, but the cost of handing pallets of 100s to crooked leaders on other side of world is WAY bigger than what welfare moms siphon each month.
Maybe you're helping Karzai with his baby mama?
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necessity is the mother of invention. Welfare gets broker and broker, maybe they do it. In OTHER countries, woudl be WAY more effective. In USA, the population is stable.
We complain about welfare moms, but the cost of handing pallets of 100s to crooked leaders on other side of world is WAY bigger than what welfare moms siphon each month.
I think the U.S. is going to have some major decisions to make in about 50 years. As the world leader, we will have to go into these 3rd world countries, and put the clamps on them ourselves. Our world resources are dwindling, and the world will be damned, if they don't stop the infestation at some point.
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I think the U.S. is going to have some major decisions to make in about 50 years. As the world leader, we will have to go into these 3rd world countries, and put the clamps on them ourselves. Our world resources are dwindling, and the world will be damned, if they don't stop the infestation at some point.
No need for that. Just block their imports and the problem solves itself.
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we send billions overseas.... hundreds of billions of $ was lost in these wars, just completely lost lol.
People scream that americans are getting a few hundred a month for babies, and I agree it sucks... but in the same breath, many of them are saying we need to INCREASE military spending.
At some point, you realize debt is spiraling and hey, we don't need 50 more bases this year LMAO
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LOL conservatives who don't understand that morning after pill is birth control and not abortion pill.
That's because people against it want any sex for enjoyment to come with problems and complications.
OMG! How dare you want to have sex, just for pleasure and NOT procreation
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we send billions overseas.... hundreds of billions of $ was lost in these wars, just completely lost lol.
People scream that americans are getting a few hundred a month for babies, and I agree it sucks... but in the same breath, many of them are saying we need to INCREASE military spending.
At some point, you realize debt is spiraling and hey, we don't need 50 more bases this year LMAO
I think our debt is pure fantasy. Sure its a real number, but the whole world knows we aren't going to pay it back. We would probably go to war first.
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I think our debt is pure fantasy. Sure its a real number, but the whole world knows we aren't going to pay it back. We would probably go to war first.
Agreed. Your debt will never get paid. And when it's gone too far, and nobody wants to lend to the US, then the US will just take what it wants. Under the guise of 'bringing freedom', of course.
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Agreed. Your debt will never get paid. And when it's gone too far, and nobody wants to lend to the US, then the US will just take what it wants. Under the guise of 'bringing freedom', of course.
Exactly. We know we are the big boys on the block. Our loving, outreached hand, can easily turn into a pimp slap.
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Anyone who opposes birth control or abortion should be forced to pay more for welfare babies.
Excellent post!
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You need to learn how to read and write before anyone is going to take you seriously.
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Guys like True Adonis bring up a good point. People without kids should get some sort of tax break. Far too many people in the U.S. spit out kids to take advantage of the dependant tax break. I'm so sick of hearing about skeezy hoes getting 10,000+ at tax time. These women are having kids as business decisions these days.
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Guys like True Adonis bring up a good point. People without kids should get some sort of tax break. Far too many people in the U.S. spit out kids to take advantage of the dependant tax break. I'm so sick of hearing about skeezy hoes getting 10,000+ at tax time. These women are having kids as business decisions these days.
So you are against small business? :P
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Excellent post!
Again, we're already paying out the ass for other people's irresponsibility.
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So you are against small business? :P
Marriage and children are big business these days :D
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Again, we're already paying out the ass for other people's irresponsibility.
I'm split on this. It does bother me that I pay a tremendous amount of money out and a lot of that goes to those that made poor life decisions (to be diplomatic). On the other hand paying out these ridiculously high taxes that I pay formulate a better society that I live in. I guess for now I'm ok with it.
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Somebody answer this question for me: How is it that some states (like Fl. which I live) have no state tax? You would think that those greedy bastards would make all states pay that tax.
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I'm split on this. It does bother me that I pay a tremendous amount of money out and a lot of that goes to those that made poor life decisions (to be diplomatic). On the other hand paying out these ridiculously high taxes that I pay formulate a better society that I live in. I guess for now I'm ok with it.
But to the ones who are not as fortunate as you who can't afford to pay extra, hurts.
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lol @ actually believing that telling your kids not to have sex is going to work lol.
You cant (or to a great extent) fight strong biological urges. At 15 years olds, your body is being flooded with such strong hormones, that asking a 15 year old not to have sex is like asking Vince Goodrum to stop pretending he has a good physique. It is not going to happen.
This has nothing to do with good or bad parenting.
Its best to educate them on safe sex, etc.
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But to the ones who are not as fortunate as you who can't afford to pay extra, hurts.
Ya I agree. I look at my wife who makes a great six figure income and if she was a single household income this would be really bothersome. Probably why she is more to the right than I.
Albeit I did vote for the extremely right wing mayor we have in office. And part of his platform was "putting an end to the gravy train".
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Ya I agree. I look at my wife who makes a great six figure income and if she was a single household income this would be really bothersome. Probably why she is more to the right than I.
Albeit I did vote for the extremely right wing mayor we have in office. And part of his platform was "putting an end to the gravy train".
If there are any Torontonians that see this I'm probably going to get ripped apart for voting Rob Ford.
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cool, make it money.... $2000 CASH at age 12 to take a 10 year birth control shot. I bet the parents in poor areas will line up to put their kids on that shot at age 12. no doubt.
Even if you take college out of it... Do the math on cost of 18 years of welfare + medical VS a one-time $2000 stimulus package to a group that will spend every cent of it.
I think it'd be successful... in one generation, the number of pregnancies would plummet, having a cumulative effect on the next generation. WOuldn't cost that much for long as a new generation of poor, dependent people aren't born.
Good point, I hadn't considered the fact that the CCT program would be a sort of stimulus as well!
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lol @ actually believing that telling your kids not to have sex is going to work lol.
You cant (or to a great extent) fight strong biological urges. At 15 years olds, your body is being flooded with such strong hormones, that asking a 15 year old not to have sex is like asking Vince Goodrum to stop pretending he has a good physique. It is not going to happen.
This has nothing to do with good or bad parenting.
Its best to educate them on safe sex, etc.
At best you will teach them to lie better.
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lol @ actually believing that telling your kids not to have sex is going to work lol.
You cant (or to a great extent) fight strong biological urges. At 15 years olids, your body is being flooded with such strong hormones, that asking a 15 year old not to have sex is like asking Vince Goodrum to stop pretending he has a good physique. It is not going to happen.
This has nothing to do with good or bad parenting
Its best to educate them on safe sex, etc.
Disagree, but you're right, you just can't "tell" them, it has to be instilled in them at a young are. When I hear parents say "well, they're going to do it anyway, might as well at least give them protection"...that falls on the parents.
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Disagree, but you're right, you just can't "tell" them, it has to be instilled in them at a young are. When I hear parents say "well, they're going to do it anyway, might as well at least give them protection"...that falls on the parents.
Come on Coach! Sex is not the devil. Smart kids make smart decisions. Sex is part of High-school.
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Disagree, but you're right, you just can't "tell" them, it has to be instilled in them at a young are. When I hear parents say "well, they're going to do it anyway, might as well at least give them protection"...that falls on the parents.
So children need to be brainwashed in thinking that a normal biological function is somehow evil. Let me guess: they go to hell if they have sex? That always seems to foster normal, well-adjusted people.
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I think 15 year olds will have sex even with the best parents you can ask for. I don`t agree that just because a 15 year old is having sex, that somehow means there is bad parenting involved. It is perfectly normal for 15 year olds to have and to want sex, nothing to do with parenting.
A good parent would educate them on safe sex and how horrible it would be to have a child at a young age. Also, a good parent would talk about abortion and tell them, if they ever needed one, they would support them fully.
All walks of life get abortions, from the very wealthy to the very poor and everyone in between. My friends used to come to my mother at times, asking her to help pay for abortions because they were too scared to tell their parents or their parents were religious nutcases or they just didn`t feel comfortable talking to their parents about it. My mother always helped them out, gave them the money and that was that. One of the people who came to my mom later worked in DC doing legal work for a Republican Congressman and is a practicing lawyer.
Its safe to say their lives would have been ruined otherwise.
Quality post. I agree 100% with this here. Kids are curious, they're gonna fuck no matter what you tell em. Best let em be smart about it.
Your mother was a good person, I must say.
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Quality post. I agree 100% with this here. Kids are curious, they're gonna fuck no matter what you tell em. Best let em be smart about it.
Your mother was a good person, I must say.
Probably the first "yo mama!" on GB that ends well. ;D
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cool, make it money.... $2000 CASH at age 12 to take a 10 year birth control shot. I bet the parents in poor areas will line up to put their kids on that shot at age 12. no doubt.
Even if you take college out of it... Do the math on cost of 18 years of welfare + medical VS a one-time $2000 stimulus package to a group that will spend every cent of it.
I think it'd be successful... in one generation, the number of pregnancies would plummet, having a cumulative effect on the next generation. WOuldn't cost that much for long as a new generation of poor, dependent people aren't born.
The only problem I foresee is that we may be incentivizing poor people to have more kids by giving them a CCT benefit for each child they have ($2k x number of kids). So the program would need to be structured to avoid that incentive. Fuck, things just got complicated!
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The only problem I foresee is that we may be incentivizing poor people to have more kids by giving them a CCT benefit for each child they have ($2k x number of kids). So the program would need to be structured to avoid that incentive. Fuck, things just got complicated!
That is already happening with the dependant tax breaks. Whores are cashing in at tax time.
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DISGUSTING. How is disscusting even possible!? That is just plain sad. :-\
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So children need to be brainwashed in thinking that a normal biological function is somehow evil. Let me guess: they go to hell if they have sex? That always seems to foster normal, well-adjusted people.
Not at all. They need to be taught what the responsibilities of they're actions may bring.
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We've been battling about this topic in the pol section. I don't understand why they didn't make the age requirement the age of consent. Seems ridiculous for it to be available to anyone under that age of consent, considering the possibility that a crime occurred.
There are a lot of problems in allowing someone under the age of consent to purchase. If a fifteen year old buys the map should the authorities be informed? Doctors and teachers are required to report possible signs of abuse as a matter of the child's safety.
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Not at all. They need to be taught what the responsibilities of they're actions may bring.
So you want to teach them that sex is fine, as long as they use protection? I can agree with that: very responsible.
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Disagree, but you're right, you just can't "tell" them, it has to be instilled in them at a young are. When I hear parents say "well, they're going to do it anyway, might as well at least give them protection"...that falls on the parents.
If you have a daughter, get her on the pills if she wants to have sex with her boyfriend. If your kid trusts you he/she will tell. I did. Most of my friends did. I had best sexual education in the world because my dad is a fucking professional and I knew everything about protection, its pros and cons long before I had sex.
If you have a son it's even simplier. Make sure he tells you about his personal life as much as it's comfortable for him to say and he will know that he has to get his GF on the pills or use condoms.
It's really fucking simple. The sooner your kid starts his sexual life, the better. More practice, less frustration, more satisfaction from life. It's XXI century, you don't have to live like a monk.
Day after pills are dangerous and should be last resort. Abortion is BS. If it's gonna kill mother od child is sick and gonna live a miserable life then go for it. Other than that you have to pay the price. Why? I don't have any rational arguments. It just sickens me to the stomach.
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DISGUSTING. How is disscusting even possible!? That is just plain sad. :-\
Gimme a break, out of the hundreds of thousands of words I write on here, you bag on an auto-correct mistake from my phone? Example of the left blowing things out of proportion ::)
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Gimme a break, out of the hundreds of thousands of words I write on here, you bag on an auto-correct mistake from my phone? Example of the left blowing things out of proportion ::)
Disscusting isn't even a word, so your phone could/would never 'auto-correct' for it, Coach. Talk about the right lying out of their asses (again). ;D
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Disscusting isn't even a word, so your phone could/would never 'auto-correct' for it, Coach. Talk about the right lying out of their asses (again). ;D
The good Dr. Owning Coach here 8)
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If you have a daughter, get her on the pills if she wants to have sex with her boyfriend. If your kid trusts you he/she will tell. I did. Most of my friends did. I had best sexual education in the world because my dad is a fucking professional and I knew everything about protection, its pros and cons long before I had sex.
If you have a son it's even simplier. Make sure he tells you about his personal life as much as it's comfortable for him to say and he will know that he has to get his GF on the pills or use condoms.
It's really fucking simple. The sooner your kid starts his sexual life, the better. More practice, less frustration, more satisfaction from life. It's XXI century, you don't have to live like a monk.
Day after pills are dangerous and should be last resort. Abortion is BS. If it's gonna kill mother od child is sick and gonna live a miserable life then go for it. Other than that you have to pay the price. Why? I don't have any rational arguments. It just sickens me to the stomach.
My son is 15 and ever since he has been able to understand, the one thing me and his mother (step) have instilled that best way to stay out of trouble is to teach abstinence. Except for this year, he has always gone to a Christian school where abstinence is taught. Does this insure it won't happen? Of course not, but odds are it will not. Now that he's in a public school with 3000 students as opposed to 660, the odds of temptation are greater, of course. But as long as it was INSTILLED at a younger age, he knows what the life consequences are if he does get a girl pregnant and he also knows and agrees that abortion is NOT an option.
Unfortunately, most public schools do not teach this but rather teach the alternative which is to protect yourself. If you're going to teach one you should teach the other. Period. IMO, this is giving up on the kid by thinking that the biological outcome is inevitable and sex is automatically going to happen no matter what, nothing could be further from the truth despite what some of the psychological studies suggest.
No one asking a kid to live like a monk, all we're asking them to be responsible and keep in their pants. Most of the kids I know, including my son, are bogged down with too much other bullshit anyway. Example, my kids schedule goes like this, School, out of school by 1:30, 1:40-5:00 is baseball practice and games twice during the week, 6-8:00pm is training and rehab, 8:30-10:30 homework. Weekends, training, hitting, catching practice, time with friends, Sundays, hang out with friends.
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My son is 15 and ever since he has been able to understand, the one thing me and his mother (step) have instilled that best way to stay out of trouble is to teach abstinence. Except for this year, he has always gone to a Christian school where abstinence is taught. Does this insure it won't happen? Of course not, but odds are it will not. Now that he's in a public school with 3000 students as opposed to 660, the odds of temptation are greater, of course. But as long as it was INSTILLED at a younger age, he knows what the life consequences are if he does get a girl pregnant and he also knows and agrees that abortion is NOT an option.
Unfortunately, most public schools do not teach this but rather teach the alternative which is to protect yourself. If you're going to teach one you should teach the other. Period. IMO, this is giving up on the kid by thinking that the biological outcome is inevitable and sex is automatically going to happen no matter what, nothing could be further from the truth despite what some of the psychological studies suggest.
No one asking a kid to live like a monk, all we're asking them to be responsible and keep in their pants. Most of the kids I know, including my son, are bogged down with too much other bullshit anyway. Example, my kids schedule goes like this, School, out of school by 1:30, 1:40-5:00 is baseball practice and games twice during the week, 6-8:00pm is training and rehab, 8:30-10:30 homework. Weekends, training, hitting, catching practice, time with friends, Sundays, hang out with friends.
Abstinence programs are idiocy. Bristol Palin proved that. But good on you, Coach, for instilling the education and responsibility.
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Disscusting isn't even a word, so your phone could/would never 'auto-correct' for it, Coach. Talk about the right lying out of their asses (again). ;D
Bah!
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My son is 15 and ever since he has been able to understand, the one thing me and his mother (step) have instilled that best way to stay out of trouble is to teach abstinence. Except for this year, he has always gone to a Christian school where abstinence is taught. Does this insure it won't happen? Of course not, but odds are it will not. Now that he's in a public school with 3000 students as opposed to 660, the odds of temptation are greater, of course. But as long as it was INSTILLED at a younger age, he knows what the life consequences are if he does get a girl pregnant and he also knows and agrees that abortion is NOT an option.
Unfortunately, most public schools do not teach this but rather teach the alternative which is to protect yourself. If you're going to teach one you should teach the other. Period. IMO, this is giving up on the kid by thinking that the biological outcome is inevitable and sex is automatically going to happen no matter what, nothing could be further from the truth despite what some of the psychological studies suggest.
No one asking a kid to live like a monk, all we're asking them to be responsible and keep in their pants. Most of the kids I know, including my son, are bogged down with too much other bullshit anyway. Example, my kids schedule goes like this, School, out of school by 1:30, 1:40-5:00 is baseball practice and games twice during the week, 6-8:00pm is training and rehab, 8:30-10:30 homework. Weekends, training, hitting, catching practice, time with friends, Sundays, hang out with friends.
Looks like Sunday might be a good day for him to bang a few chicks.
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Total lack of morality....
(https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/3288324352/h95C40392/)
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Bah!
Don't worry, Coach. We'll bury your apology on the sixth page. ;D
/liberal media
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Haha..it was probably Coach trying to correct the phone.
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Fantastic article here. It's not just the left that wants to kill somebody. Everybody wants to kill
somebody!
What would Jesus say?
The Pro-Death Movement
by Jim Goad
I once read that all societies throughout history were consistent in that they deemed it wrong to kill another human being…but they were wildly inconsistent in how they defined the term “human being.”
Such universal contradictions are compounded by the monotheism under which much of the world’s minds have been yoked for millennia, a strange philosophy that posits a God who says “Thou shalt not kill” yet who kills every creature he creates.
We currently have a culturally dominant and largely atheistic left, who never shut the fuck up about how many people have been killed by religion, Nazis, racists, and guns. Yet they’ll try to shout you into silence if you mention how many people that atheistic communistic egalitarians have killed.
And they don’t dare mention how many people that abortionists have killed, because to them, “personhood” begins at birth rather than conception.
They never tire of trotting out 70-year-old Holocaust pics and century-old lynching pics. Yet through semantic sleight-of-brain, they’ll insist that modern abortion pics are “sensationalistic.”
And I’ve marveled for years at how they openly gloat at the death—either through demographic erosion or straight-up murder—of those with whom they disagree. Apparently Woody Guthrie felt no twinge of conscience about scrawling THIS MACHINE KILLS FASCISTS on his guitar, because to him, fascists were somehow less than human.
That’s because fascists killed people. Therefore, it’s OK to kill fascists.
Are you following that logic? If so, that makes one of us.
Rare is the individual who doesn’t condone, either actively or by inaction, the killing of others. In one way or another, almost everyone on Earth belongs to the Pro-Death Movement. Those who don’t are either masochistic or naïve. Even the misguided policies of super-pacifists will lead to overpopulation and an inevitable natural mass culling of the Earth Herd.
The same media progbots who pooped their diapers at the murder of children in Sandy Hook last November are pooh-poohing the idea that one would dare draw parallels to the case of abortionist Dr. Kermit Gosnell, currently on trial for murder as the result of alleged misdeeds performed at his grisly West Philadelphia “House of Horrors.”
The grand jury report on Gosnell’s Women’s Medical Center is some of the most gruesome “gore porn” you’ll ever read. Approach with caution. I’ll summarize it in the next paragraph, which you can skip if you have a weak stomach.
Over nearly 300 pages, the report tells of a fetid, malodorous, blood-and-feces splattered clinic stocked with rusted, stained, and broken equipment. Of fetal remains stuffed everywhere—in refrigerators, milk jugs, cat-food boxes, and even a bizarre collection of several fetal feet displayed in jars. Of medical-waste-filled boxes leaking blood onto the floor. Of unwashed and contaminated medical instruments spreading disease. Of third-term live births cut short after Gosnell or associates would “snip” them at the neck to “ensure fetal demise.” Of one baby delivered into a toilet and thrashing around so that it appeared to be “swimming,” whereupon it was lifted from the commode and had its neck slit. Of one baby whose weight was estimated at six pounds, whereupon Gosnell reportedly “joked” that it was big enough to “walk me to the bus stop.” Of him also joking as one baby writhed while he slit its neck, “that’s what you call a chicken with its head cut off.”
Dr. Gosnell is a black abortionist. Some have suggested that at first the media gave scant notice to his trial because it involved the tarnishing of two progressive sacred cows—abortion and black people. In a perverse sense, he’s very lucky he wasn’t a white doctor shooting black babies with a gun.
For one side of this tedious team sport, guns are only meant to kill. To the other side, abortion is only meant to kill.
I have news for both sides. Guns and abortions are both only meant to kill. That’s a statement of fact, not a value judgment. I may be the odd bird in the flock here in that I admit I don’t necessarily think killing other humans is always bad. Where I’m the Uber-weirdo is that I see them as all human, despite their morphological or ideological differences from me. If someone were trying to kill me, I’d do my best to squash him or her like a roach without blinking. And since I feel the world already has far too many people, I don’t see anything wrong with aborting many (if not most) fetuses before they plop all wet and slimy into the world and further degrade the ecosystem.
Not all abortionists behave like Kermit Gosnell. Then again, not all gun owners behave like Adam Lanza. And not all racists behave like Adolf Hitler. And not all egalitarians behave like Mao. Yet the infantile modern-day left/right herd mentality is ever eager to jump in a toboggan and careen down the slippery slope.
But as is the case with all binary political discourse these days, one side seized the details to attack, while the other side avoided the details and tried to deflect the sunlight. Some blamed abortion itself; others blamed a culture of poverty that sent poor women to clinics such as these. Very few mentioned that condoms or morning-after pills could have averted the whole bloody Grand Guignol banquet.
Perched as I am on another planet, I try to take the middle road. On one hand, this case doesn’t say much about an unregulated free market, because Gosnell was making loads of cash—one estimate had it at $15K a day—not only on third-trimester abortions, but on peddling pain medication. On the other, it doesn’t say much for government regulation because state officials ignored nearly two decades’ worth of complaints about the clinic. If government workers can’t be trusted to regulate a private clinic, who but a fool would trust them to clean their own house?
Far be it from me to eagerly stomp on everyone’s toes, but the private and public sectors are both filled with human beings. Therein lies the problem. With rare exceptions, humans can’t be trusted.
Despite the universal human urge to paint everything in moralistic terms, it seems obvious to me that nature is amoral. Just as all societies condemn murder unless they’re murdering people they don’t deem to be human, there’s an almost universal human definition of good and evil:
If it enhances my survival, it’s good. If it harms it, it’s evil.
It’s the application of that definition that becomes insanely subjective. I can’t think of a war in history where the combatants didn’t think they were on the “good” side fighting the “evil” side. What are the odds?
And that’s why political discourse, at least these days, consists of little more than apes flinging feces at one another. It’s a social-status game to prove the other side is morally “evil” rather than factually wrong.
The feminists fatales who run their necks about their “bodies” and their “rights” consistently ignore the presumed rights of the little bodies growing inside them, as well as the rights of the sperm donors without whom those little bodies never could have been created. “Rights,” as well as who gets to define what’s right and wrong, are zero-sum games and always have been.
Same goes for who gets to define what constitutes murder.
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Looks like Sunday might be a good day for him to bang a few chicks.
And thats where my trust comes in.
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And thats where my trust comes in.
Pretty sure X is good, and on his first marriage.
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Fantastic article here. It's not just the left that wants to kill somebody. Everybody wants to kill
somebody!
What would Jesus say?
Prevailing media has successfully placed many people into such a mindset, no doubt about it.
I think of those who scream about the youngsters killed in Connecticut, yet give Obama a pass on killing the kid by drone, as a great example. And sure as hell it works both ways...that's exactly how it works, in fact. Take two forces, each that are capable of leading to fascism, place them into complete opposition, and they will ratchet themselves toward their shared conclusion. Talk about a fucking dupe.
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Haha! Chimps riding Coach with alagrity and custo!
Nice. But I say 'pronto-pronto' like the grammas in the de Sica movies. ;D
/nice misspellings
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Nice. But I say 'pronto-pronto' like the grammas in the de Sica movies. ;D
/nice misspellings
>:(
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Prevailing media has successfully placed many people into such a mindset, no doubt about it.
I think of those who scream about the youngsters killed in Connecticut, yet give Obama a pass on killing the kid by drone, as a great example. And sure as hell it works both ways...that's exactly how it works, in fact. Take two forces, each that are capable of leading to fascism, place them into complete opposition, and they will ratchet themselves toward their shared conclusion. Talk about a fucking dupe.
The term 'Fascism' is used incorrectly today, for instance a Stalinist state would argue they are not 'Fascist' but rather totalitarian, where the state controls everything.
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>:(
Sic [ ] is now your best friend, Coach. ;)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sic)
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The term 'Fascism' is used incorrectly today, for instance a Stalinist state would argue they are not 'Fascist' but rather totalitarian, where the state controls everything.
...except corporation, by which the state itself is controlled.
Mussolini said it best: "Fascism should rightly be called Corporatism, as it is the merger of corporate and government power."
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I would urge any person to look at a collection of quotes from that disjointed madman David Rockefeller, if you want to see what corporate determination will lead us to. It isn't cool or acceptable, in any way.
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...and it absolutely does NOT include Democracy, for obvious reasons.
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I would urge any person to look at a collection of quotes from that disjointed madman David Rockefeller, if you want to see what corporate determination will lead us to. It isn't cool or acceptable, in any way.
You are an idiot trying ot look "smart" and "important" by having "secret" knowledge
Fuck off
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...except corporation, by which the state itself is controlled.
Mussolini said it best: "Fascism should rightly be called Corporatism, as it is the merger of corporate and government power."
Also known as Obamacare, Romneycare, Bob Dole Care- the collusion of the Private Health Insurance Industry and the United States Government which MANDATES that people BUY from the private sector, health insurance or else face a fine.
That is fascism.
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...except corporation, by which the state itself is controlled.
Mussolini said it best: "Fascism should rightly be called Corporatism, as it is the merger of corporate and government power."
That is an aspect of it.
But a Fascist society is also one that is supposed to be a militarised and uniformed society which views outward displays of personal wealth as weak and decadent. They believe in survival of the fittest and that the strong should rule as in nature, by force.
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right and left are both authoritarian utilitarians.
for this reason i do not think either are noble in their principles.
but my perspective is only perspective. like left and right, i do not know the truth but only have opinion.
that being said, I think left and right are properly understood when said to have a difference in values and not a difference in value.
different, not better or worse.
Left values economic equality, , improvement, and empathy. (generally speaking and among other things)
Right values individual soveriegnty, tradition, and strength in brute force. (generally speaking and among other things)
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My son is 15 and ever since he has been able to understand, the one thing me and his mother (step) have instilled that best way to stay out of trouble is to teach abstinence. Except for this year, he has always gone to a Christian school where abstinence is taught. Does this insure it won't happen? Of course not, but odds are it will not. Now that he's in a public school with 3000 students as opposed to 660, the odds of temptation are greater, of course. But as long as it was INSTILLED at a younger age, he knows what the life consequences are if he does get a girl pregnant and he also knows and agrees that abortion is NOT an option.
Unfortunately, most public schools do not teach this but rather teach the alternative which is to protect yourself. If you're going to teach one you should teach the other. Period. IMO, this is giving up on the kid by thinking that the biological outcome is inevitable and sex is automatically going to happen no matter what, nothing could be further from the truth despite what some of the psychological studies suggest.
No one asking a kid to live like a monk, all we're asking them to be responsible and keep in their pants. Most of the kids I know, including my son, are bogged down with too much other bullshit anyway. Example, my kids schedule goes like this, School, out of school by 1:30, 1:40-5:00 is baseball practice and games twice during the week, 6-8:00pm is training and rehab, 8:30-10:30 homework. Weekends, training, hitting, catching practice, time with friends, Sundays, hang out with friends.
I'm sorry, but how is that a life? That is fucking brutal regimen, why do you put him through all of this? For what purpose?
I had plenty of time when I was young. When I was 15 I was going through usual "tough" period - alcohol, disobedience etc. I never had problems with my parents though, they never made me do anything that didn't make any sense at all and always told me to question EVERYTHING. That's why I nearly got kicked out of a school (despite having best average grades in school) :D
I have friends like this. Do you know what happens 10 years later? I drink once in a month, I easily control myself when I'm drunk and know when to stop. I've been there, done that years before everyone else. What happened to good kids whose parents ensured they have every second of their life occupied?
Drugs, alcohol abuse, 1 week long relationships, total fucking chaos and dropping out of a school. Of course that's not a rule, merely a tendency I observed. It's quite logical when you think about it. I was taught how to live as a free man who makes his own decisions. Your kids are slaves. You fed them with religious dogmas they will sooner or later find out to be absolute bullshit.
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I'm sorry, but how is that a life? That is fucking brutal regimen, why do you put him through all of this? For what purpose?
I had plenty of time when I was young. When I was 15 I was going through usual "tough" period - alcohol, disobedience etc. I never had problems with my parents though, they never made me do anything that didn't make any sense at all and always told me to question EVERYTHING. That's why I nearly got kicked out of a school (despite having best average grades in school) :D
I have friends like this. Do you know what happens 10 years later? I drink once in a month, I easily control myself when I'm drunk and know when to stop. I've been there, done that years before everyone else. What happened to good kids whose parents ensured they have every second of their life occupied?
Drugs, alcohol abuse, 1 week long relationships, total fucking chaos and dropping out of a school. Of course that's not a rule, merely a tendency I observed. It's quite logical when you think about it. I was taught how to live as a free man who makes his own decisions. Your kids are slaves. You fed them with religious dogmas they will sooner or later find out to be absolute bullshit.
I agree with you.
There has to be a balance. Besides, we have to enjoy our youth and have fun.
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You are an idiot trying ot look "smart" and "important" by having "secret" knowledge
Fuck off
Yes, Doophus. It's all quite secret.
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That is an aspect of it.
But a Fascist society is also one that is supposed to be a militarised and uniformed society which views outward displays of personal wealth as weak and decadent. They believe in survival of the fittest and that the strong should rule as in nature, by force.
We're certainly getting the parts about militarization, and survival of the fittest, down well. I'd also argue that "strong" and "wealthy" may be interchanged in this environment.
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Also known as Obamacare, Romneycare, Bob Dole Care- the collusion of the Private Health Insurance Industry and the United States Government which MANDATES that people BUY from the private sector, health insurance or else face a fine.
That is fascism.
I'd say you're calling it, right here. And it makes for an incredible intrusion into everyones' affairs--especially financial.
The idea that "state" and "corporation" are separate entities is something that needs to be looked at--hard. Seems to me, a LOT could be solved by an honest assessment. Let's force these caricatures on either "side" to face facts.
Real good call.
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Anyone who opposes birth control or abortion should be forced to pay more for welfare babies.
Do you think Coach is a political cuckold? Every time a liberal agenda item is passed his dick gets a little hard? For someone so outspoken against liberals im beginning to think there's a deep rabbit hole here.
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I'm sorry, but how is that a life? That is fucking brutal regimen, why do you put him through all of this? For what purpose?
I had plenty of time when I was young. When I was 15 I was going through usual "tough" period - alcohol, disobedience etc. I never had problems with my parents though, they never made me do anything that didn't make any sense at all and always told me to question EVERYTHING. That's why I nearly got kicked out of a school (despite having best average grades in school) :D
I have friends like this. Do you know what happens 10 years later? I drink once in a month, I easily control myself when I'm drunk and know when to stop. I've been there, done that years before everyone else. What happened to good kids whose parents ensured they have every second of their life occupied?
Drugs, alcohol abuse, 1 week long relationships, total fucking chaos and dropping out of a school. Of course that's not a rule, merely a tendency I observed. It's quite logical when you think about it. I was taught how to live as a free man who makes his own decisions. Your kids are slaves. You fed them with religious dogmas they will sooner or later find out to be absolute bullshit.
Another post that I completely agree with in this thread ... and I also see quite a few similarities in our childhood/youth and I'm just like you when it comes to alcohol/drugs and I became a good person in general and a good citizen as well as I'm always questioning things which is very important in a democracy.
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Also known as Obamacare, Romneycare, Bob Dole Care- the collusion of the Private Health Insurance Industry and the United States Government which MANDATES that people BUY from the private sector, health insurance or else face a fine.
That is fascism.
Elizabeth Dole. Health care power and control. Good call, TA. Almost forgot about her.
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*bump* for Coach's lying
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Great word! Theatrical movie. :-\
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I'm sorry, but how is that a life? That is fucking brutal regimen, why do you put him through all of this? For what purpose?
I had plenty of time when I was young. When I was 15 I was going through usual "tough" period - alcohol, disobedience etc. I never had problems with my parents though, they never made me do anything that didn't make any sense at all and always told me to question EVERYTHING. That's why I nearly got kicked out of a school (despite having best average grades in school) :D
I have friends like this. Do you know what happens 10 years later? I drink once in a month, I easily control myself when I'm drunk and know when to stop. I've been there, done that years before everyone else. What happened to good kids whose parents ensured they have every second of their life occupied?
Drugs, alcohol abuse, 1 week long relationships, total fucking chaos and dropping out of a school. Of course that's not a rule, merely a tendency I observed. It's quite logical when you think about it. I was taught how to live as a free man who makes his own decisions. Your kids are slaves. You fed them with religious dogmas they will sooner or later find out to be absolute bullshit.
Agree + Carlin is such a clever bastard.
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I'm sorry, but how is that a life? That is fucking brutal regimen, why do you put him through all of this? For what purpose?
I had plenty of time when I was young. When I was 15 I was going through usual "tough" period - alcohol, disobedience etc. I never had problems with my parents though, they never made me do anything that didn't make any sense at all and always told me to question EVERYTHING. That's why I nearly got kicked out of a school (despite having best average grades in school) :D
I have friends like this. Do you know what happens 10 years later? I drink once in a month, I easily control myself when I'm drunk and know when to stop. I've been there, done that years before everyone else. What happened to good kids whose parents ensured they have every second of their life occupied?
Drugs, alcohol abuse, 1 week long relationships, total fucking chaos and dropping out of a school. Of course that's not a rule, merely a tendency I observed. It's quite logical when you think about it. I was taught how to live as a free man who makes his own decisions. Your kids are slaves. You fed them with religious dogmas they will sooner or later find out to be absolute bullshit.
how is that a "brutal regimen"? go to Japan. see those kids weekly regimen and you'll see why they're overtaking us in everything education and why we are churning out welfare babies who believe the government shoud take care of all of their basic needs by the thousands.