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Clarification and evidence regarding John Meadows, Prime Nutrition, Aaron Singerman, and myself.
Below is a timeline of events with unaltered screenshots that will shed some light on the current situation. The emails evidence several things:
First, as you can clearly see, Aaron Singerman intentionally ordered an under dose of product. You will also see that John Meadows tested the product, and only this product, that Aaron ordered to be under dosed, and then attempted to extort Prime Nutrition by offering to stay silent as long as he received a substantial sum of money from Prime Nutrition.
Screenshots here: http://imgur.com/a/EkTVz
06/06/15 - Aaron Singerman wishes to no longer work with John Meadows (image linked below)
08/13/15 – The label designer notices that 20mg is what's inside, not 50mg. Aaron says to just change label to 50mg (image linked below)
05/05/16 - Aaron Singerman is fired as a manager of Prime Nutrition, while remaining on as a shareholder of Prime Nutrition.
08/11/16 - John Meadows sponsorship with Prime Nutrition is terminated. (image linked below)
09/28/16 - John Meadows emails Aaron offering to settle and stay quiet as long as he receives $100,000.00 (image linked below)
Before any issues arose concerning Prime Nutrition’s products, Aaron Singerman expressed that he wished to no longer work John Meadows. While with Prime, Aaron notoriously wanted products and labels created as quickly as possible, with authenticity and accuracy coming second. John does not work fast. When the product was in final creation stages, the emails show that the manufacturer showed us the product only had 20mg of Teacrine, when Meadows had suggested 50mg. Aaron instructed the label designer to "just change" the label to say 50mg. Teacrine is a very costly ingredient that also vastly effected the taste - an under dose of this ingredient meant big savings and better flavor reviews regardless of efficacy.
In May of 2016, events that cannot be discussed due to confidentiality requirements led to Aaron Singerman being fired from Prime Nutrition. At this time large amounts of INTRA-MD EAA+ had been created and sold under his supervision. Under Prime's new leadership, John Meadows' sponsorship was terminated in August of 2016. This led to John Meadows threatening suit against Prime Nutrition owners and the current extortion and smear campaign playing out in social media today.
On September 7, 2016, John received test results for the product, yet decided to hold them until October 3, 2016. As shown in the screenshots above, John’s attorney wrote a letter notifying us of the test results followed by an email from John Meadows demanding $100,000.00 to withhold the information from the public. If John was truly concerned about the consumer he would have followed the proper protocol and notified the FDA as well as work hand in hand with Prime Nutrition to remedy this unfortunate situation and protect the consumer; instead he chose to attempt to line his own pockets by engaging in highly illegal and unethical conduct. We believe that Aaron Singerman: (1) coerced John Meadows because he knew full well that we had this information (seen in screenshots above); (2) that it was truly Aaron who designed the product and was notified that ingredients were incorrect; and (3) instead instructed the label designer to follow through as is knowing full well that the label was incorrect.
Finally, here's a word from Wes Houser of DuraCap in regards to this matter:
"So, you may have seen some activity on various social media outlets recently regarding John Meadows. As of right now, a lot of strong feelings are being expressed and we feel that we must take some measures to clear the air here about what is actually going on.
Currently, all of Prime Nutrition’s products are manufactured by Duracap. John Meadows has directly accused Duracap of underdosing the levels of teacrine in Intra-MD EAA+. Samples of Intra-MD EAA+ were sent out for testing and confirmed that this was, indeed, the case. While this situation was unfortunate for Prime Nutrition customers, we guarantee that any and all products we produce will meet what is listed on its product label going forward.
We do, however, know why teacrine did not meet the levels indicated on the product’s label. This was a result of a direct order from Aaron Singerman to change the levels of teacrine from 50 mg to 20 mg, and then to keep the label the same.
To rectify this situation, a product recall has been issued for Intra MD EAA+. Any customer dissatisfied with Intra-MD EAA+ is eligible for a full refund. To claim your refund, send an email to cs@primenutrition.com entitled “Intra MD-EAA+ recall.“
Duracap takes issues like these very seriously and will do everything within our power to ensure that all of the products we manufacture, in fact, match all levels of ingredients listed on their labels."
Wes Houser
Active Sports Distribution
Link to images here http://m.imgur.com/a/EkTVz
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Why would anyone care about this?
None of this means anything to anyone.
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Why would anyone care about this?
None of this means anything to anyone.
Its entertaining to me since meadows plays to be mr. Integrity.
Maybe if people made worthless trump threads you would be satisfied? Even though you were feeling the bern at first
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Ha, everyone involved in this little drama is a bowl filling piece of shit. No surprise though, 99% of the bodybuilding supplement industry are hucksters.
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I'm eating a Big Mac, Fries and a Wendy's Frosty while reading this.
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So Meadows was perfectly fine with them selling the underdosed snake oil as long as he got $100,000.
only if he doesn't get the 100K will he look out for the consumer
situational integrity at its finest
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So Meadows was perfectly fine with them selling the underdosed snake oil as long as he got $100,000.
only if he doesn't get the 100K will he look out for the consumer
situational integrity at its finest
It's amazing to me that people think he has so much "integrity". It took all this time for him to have the product tested and looks as though he did it in attempt to get the 100k. Who knows where the truth lies but a lot of finger pointing and drama going on right now.
They all need to lower their test/tren dosages. :D
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Why would anyone care about this?
None of this means anything to anyone.
Exactly. I live in the same city as these wannabe fuckheads and even when I'm on Facebook (outed), I see a girl I went to high school with share PJ's most recent video and she's urging people to hear the right side of the story. Who gives a fuck!?
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I'm eating a Big Mac, Fries and a Wendy's Frosty while reading this.
its my cheat and I am eating 2 small mcdonalds burger, 1 cheeseburger a small fries and a small coke zero
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Why would anyone care about this?
None of this means anything to anyone.
yes..I do not even know who these imbeciles are..
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Dropping documents.
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Its entertaining to me since meadows plays to be mr. Integrity.
Maybe if people made worthless trump threads you would be satisfied? Even though you were feeling the bern at first
First off, the emails from Aaron are well over a year ago....has no relevance on the current problems with the supplements. Number 2, if PJ expects anyone to think its justified to terminate a 2 year contract with John Meadows because he didn't make 2 posts a week on Facebook is just stupid. He formulated and actively promoted the products and was not compensated for it.
I'll discuss the matter with Aaron tommorrow about the emails because I'm personally not amused even with the label swap decision but its relatively nothing to write home about in my opinion in comparison to no active ingredients being put in there
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Vince, you talk to Aaron, I'll talk to PJ and we will definitely get to the bottom of this situation. Also, let's get Rich Piana involved and listen to about 5% of the advices he has to offer.
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Pimps and drug dealers have more integrity than these supplement industry clowns.
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I'd rather read Basile's post history than this crap.
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First off, the emails from Aaron are well over a year ago....has no relevance on the current problems with the supplements. Number 2, if PJ expects anyone to think its justified to terminate a 2 year contract with John Meadows because he didn't make 2 posts a week on Facebook is just stupid. He formulated and actively promoted the products and was not compensated for it.
I'll discuss the matter with Aaron tommorrow about the emails because I'm personally not amused even with the label swap decision but its relatively nothing to write home about in my opinion in comparison to no active ingredients being put in there
So over a year ago, Aaron was plotting to get rid of John Meadows, stiff him and fraudulently overstate ingredient quantities? Sounds like a solid bloke.
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Its entertaining to me since meadows plays to be mr. Integrity.
Maybe if people made worthless trump threads you would be satisfied? Even though you were feeling the bern at first
It's only entertaining because you're a thick dolt. Nobody cares about these nobodies.
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So over a year ago, Aaron was plotting to get rid of John Meadows, stiff him and fraudulently overstate ingredient quantities? Sounds like a solid bloke.
The only thing I see is him saying...I'd prefer not to work with John again however it doesn't reference to anything in particular as it could mean something entirely different. Honestly I don't really care and I'm sure John doesn't neither.
We'll all find out together tommorrow as Aaron is putting together a response
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It's only entertaining because you're a thick dolt. Nobody cares about these nobodies.
this
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Lol at Meadows trying to extort money to be quiet.
So much for being Mr. Integrity
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Why would anyone care about this?
None of this means anything to anyone.
x2.
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(http://65.media.tumblr.com/23c0ea968d912725ff5c9fb711690353/tumblr_nwp44iQOwy1ut248go1_1280.jpg)
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Pathological liars attacking each other over dishonesty.
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TL,DR,FU
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Lol at Meadows trying to extort money to be quiet.
So much for being Mr. Integrity
He went and got a lawyer because he wasn't paid a dime for a 2 year contract he signed. That's not extortion.
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TL,DR,FU
x 1000
Mods, please move this thread to the "Neymar Barca's a fucktard" sub forum
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x 1000
Mods, please move this thread to the "Neymar Barca's a fucktard" sub forum
we can even let Shizzo mod that board.
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we can even let Shizzo mod that board.
no
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Nah, this is actually interesting.
I love it when someone claims to have been blackmailed and then you look at the sources and what is actually happening is they're knee deep in not paying someone what looks to be rightful dues.
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He went and got a lawyer because he wasn't paid a dime for a 2 year contract he signed. That's not extortion.
Singerman only left a few months ago. Why didn't he pay Meadows during the 18 months he was the CEO?
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Singerman only left a few months ago. Why didn't he pay Meadows during the 18 months he was the CEO?
Good question and I spoke with Aaron about it about 30 minutes ago. Basically, the emails are real but PJ wants people to interpet them incorrectly by leaving out what Aaron is answering to and he'll address everything publicly.
But just for the record, Aaron didn't leave...he was terminated from his position as CEO of Prime Nutrition.
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Good question and I spoke with Aaron about it about 30 minutes ago. Basically, the emails are real but PJ wants people to interpet them incorrectly by leaving out what Aaron is answering to and he'll address everything publicly.
But just for the record, Aaron didn't leave...he was terminated from his position as CEO of Prime Nutrition.
Still doesn't explain stiffing his close friend out of salary and royalties during the 18 month's before he was terminated. Who on earth would do such a thing? Besides MD's Steve Blechman, of course.
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Good question and I spoke with Aaron about it about 30 minutes ago. Basically, the emails are real but PJ wants people to interpet them incorrectly by leaving out what Aaron is answering to and he'll address everything publicly.
But just for the record, Aaron didn't leave...he was terminated from his position as CEO of Prime Nutrition.
Dunce, do you think in 6 months when BJ and Aaron are broke, I can pick up their wives at Buffalo Wild Wings and take them back to a cheap motel and assfuck them?
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Good question and I spoke with Aaron about it about 30 minutes ago. Basically, the emails are real but PJ wants people to interpet them incorrectly by leaving out what Aaron is answering to and he'll address everything publicly.
But just for the record, Aaron didn't leave...he was terminated from his position as CEO of Prime Nutrition.
Well I have no clue how PJ wants me to interpret that "evidence" because the interpretation I have seems to show that they agreed to pay that guy royalties and never bothered.
That the product is underdosed is moot - they never paid the royalties. That's all I see. No pay bills, PJ.
I did see a video with PJ complaining about him not posting about the product - who gives a fuck? The product made profit, portions of the profit are due to him.
I never gave a flying fuck about this company but if they are going to post "evidence" of something, they should probably start by posting "evidence" that mitigates their responsibility to pay these royalties.
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Still doesn't explain stiffing his close friend out of salary and royalties during the 18 month's before he was terminated. Who on earth would do such a thing? Besides MD's Steve Blechman, of course.
All will be told soon
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All will be told soon
But how soon ? I need to go get my pedicure done in an hour .
WoooSHHHHHHHH Zack Britton [/b]
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Exactly. I live in the same city as these wannabe fuckheads and even when I'm on Facebook (outed), I see a girl I went to high school with share PJ's most recent video and she's urging people to hear the right side of the story. Who gives a fuck!?
I personally have had interaction with both PJ and Aaron. I don't really know either of them personally, but it has all been positive. Whether it is supplement business or any other business, it is never a good idea to partner with close friends or family. I speak from personal experience. It usually does not end well.
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it's strikes me kinda funny that all this fighting is all for the a weird prize:
---200 dollars (at least) a month from the wallets of teenage boys
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Both these guys will have to sell their luxurious homes in Boca, to pay the attorneys fees from all the litigation.
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He went and got a lawyer because he wasn't paid a dime for a 2 year contract he signed. That's not extortion.
You let your lawyer do the talking and then settle out of court, not try and email and blackball the owner. Like I said, meadows isn't the great man that people make him out to be.
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I also find this to be of interest, Vince, mainly because I personally know a good number of those involved within the supplement industry but have never met the principals mentioned under this post.
Keep on truck'n.
Those who fail to feel likewise should simply avoid reading this part of the GetBig Board.
I have a few questions but the big one is ..... Doesn't the mislabeling of a product conflict with the regulations of the FDA?
It appears that the only supplement that the FDA shows any interest in .... are the dietary sups.
But it is possible that a mislabeling 'case' such as this might get their attention.
And how come the FDA apparently takes no interest in what is happening within the industry?
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I've said it before in here.... But I'll say it again... These guys are all con-men and in way over their heads.
Their ego's and greed are their biggest downfall. Just watch PJ's latest clip on Facebook about him and Meadows where he claims "read the evidence and then pick your idol!"
Yes he used the word "idol".... It's pure comedy!!!
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All this 'drama', oh dear. Two druggie con-men being 'cheered on' by a gay, black, obese minimum wage fat slob.
Well I assume it's only two (Vince never mattered anywhere - not even to his own mother) 'players' in this teenage social media melodrama.
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I'm eating a Big Mac, Fries and a Wendy's Frosty while reading this.
McD's fries or Wendy's fries?
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I'm eating a Big Mac, Fries and a Wendy's Frosty while reading this.
^^
This Sunday is my cheat meal, I'm having the same thing but having the McD STRAWBERRY SHAKE!!!
P.S. And prolly a second Big Mac with extra onions, extra sauce too... :)
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This Sunday is my cheat meal, I'm having the same thing but having the McD STRAWBERRY SHAKE!!!
P.S. And prolly a second Big Mac with extra onions, extra sauce too... :)
It's amazing what we crave for our cheat meals.
I'll have a cheat meal every two weeks currently and I always want takeout Cici's pizza.
The pizza isn't very good at all LOL!
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I've said it before in here.... But I'll say it again... These guys are all con-men and in way over their heads.
Their ego's and greed are their biggest downfall. Just watch PJ's latest clip on Facebook about him and Meadows where he claims "read the evidence and then pick your idol!"
Yes he used the word "idol".... It's pure comedy!!!
And Aaron loves to flaunt his never ending spending! Now he will come out with a video pointing the finger at his ex biz partner blah blah.
The finger pointing is comical and if one reviews all accessible legal documents it shows their LLC has been in force the whole time.
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Never trust an ex heroin junkie. In fact still a drug abuser since SLINGERMAN needs drugs to look like he even lifts
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The product still had 20mg of the compound in it when Aaron was fired so who ordered it to go to zero?
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i see the same thing happening to these two clowns as that other piece of trash rich gaspari
the law suits are going to come rolling in, and they will not be able to fight them all. bankruptcy. and makes you wonder how many times in the past have they done
the same thing with there other shit products they sell
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It's amazing what we crave for our cheat meals.
I'll have a cheat meal every two weeks currently and I always want takeout Cici's pizza.
The pizza isn't very good at all LOL!
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Look up the BEST pizza store in your city, and have a medium with your favorite toppings, and a cold 40 of Old English 800...
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Clarification and evidence regarding John Meadows, Prime Nutrition, Aaron Singerman, and myself.
Below is a timeline of events with unaltered screenshots that will shed some light on the current situation. The emails evidence several things:
First, as you can clearly see, Aaron Singerman intentionally ordered an under dose of product. You will also see that John Meadows tested the product, and only this product, that Aaron ordered to be under dosed, and then attempted to extort Prime Nutrition by offering to stay silent as long as he received a substantial sum of money from Prime Nutrition.
Screenshots here: http://imgur.com/a/EkTVz
06/06/15 - Aaron Singerman wishes to no longer work with John Meadows (image linked below)
08/13/15 – The label designer notices that 20mg is what's inside, not 50mg. Aaron says to just change label to 50mg (image linked below)
05/05/16 - Aaron Singerman is fired as a manager of Prime Nutrition, while remaining on as a shareholder of Prime Nutrition.
08/11/16 - John Meadows sponsorship with Prime Nutrition is terminated. (image linked below)
09/28/16 - John Meadows emails Aaron offering to settle and stay quiet as long as he receives $100,000.00 (image linked below)
Before any issues arose concerning Prime Nutrition’s products, Aaron Singerman expressed that he wished to no longer work John Meadows. While with Prime, Aaron notoriously wanted products and labels created as quickly as possible, with authenticity and accuracy coming second. John does not work fast. When the product was in final creation stages, the emails show that the manufacturer showed us the product only had 20mg of Teacrine, when Meadows had suggested 50mg. Aaron instructed the label designer to "just change" the label to say 50mg. Teacrine is a very costly ingredient that also vastly effected the taste - an under dose of this ingredient meant big savings and better flavor reviews regardless of efficacy.
In May of 2016, events that cannot be discussed due to confidentiality requirements led to Aaron Singerman being fired from Prime Nutrition. At this time large amounts of INTRA-MD EAA+ had been created and sold under his supervision. Under Prime's new leadership, John Meadows' sponsorship was terminated in August of 2016. This led to John Meadows threatening suit against Prime Nutrition owners and the current extortion and smear campaign playing out in social media today.
On September 7, 2016, John received test results for the product, yet decided to hold them until October 3, 2016. As shown in the screenshots above, John’s attorney wrote a letter notifying us of the test results followed by an email from John Meadows demanding $100,000.00 to withhold the information from the public. If John was truly concerned about the consumer he would have followed the proper protocol and notified the FDA as well as work hand in hand with Prime Nutrition to remedy this unfortunate situation and protect the consumer; instead he chose to attempt to line his own pockets by engaging in highly illegal and unethical conduct. We believe that Aaron Singerman: (1) coerced John Meadows because he knew full well that we had this information (seen in screenshots above); (2) that it was truly Aaron who designed the product and was notified that ingredients were incorrect; and (3) instead instructed the label designer to follow through as is knowing full well that the label was incorrect.
Finally, here's a word from Wes Houser of DuraCap in regards to this matter:
"So, you may have seen some activity on various social media outlets recently regarding John Meadows. As of right now, a lot of strong feelings are being expressed and we feel that we must take some measures to clear the air here about what is actually going on.
Currently, all of Prime Nutrition’s products are manufactured by Duracap. John Meadows has directly accused Duracap of underdosing the levels of teacrine in Intra-MD EAA+. Samples of Intra-MD EAA+ were sent out for testing and confirmed that this was, indeed, the case. While this situation was unfortunate for Prime Nutrition customers, we guarantee that any and all products we produce will meet what is listed on its product label going forward.
We do, however, know why teacrine did not meet the levels indicated on the product’s label. This was a result of a direct order from Aaron Singerman to change the levels of teacrine from 50 mg to 20 mg, and then to keep the label the same.
To rectify this situation, a product recall has been issued for Intra MD EAA+. Any customer dissatisfied with Intra-MD EAA+ is eligible for a full refund. To claim your refund, send an email to cs@primenutrition.com entitled “Intra MD-EAA+ recall.“
Duracap takes issues like these very seriously and will do everything within our power to ensure that all of the products we manufacture, in fact, match all levels of ingredients listed on their labels."
Wes Houser
Active Sports Distribution
Link to images here http://m.imgur.com/a/EkTVz
reading that facebook post Aaron is actually telling that guy who has the formulation order the dose from the other guy is wrong(20mg) and that it needs(the dose formulation, not the logo) to be changed to a 50mg dose.
This PJ fella is not too bright. If this was some facebook rant about a breakup with a friend/girlfriend/politics or the news fine, but you dont put legally damaging shit online like this to falsely try to "prove" a point, you get lawyers to take care of it.
prediction: PJ is probably being told to shut his mouth as we read this.
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Clarification and evidence regarding John Meadows, Prime Nutrition, Aaron Singerman, and myself.
Below is a timeline of events with unaltered screenshots that will shed some light on the current situation. The emails evidence several things:
First, as you can clearly see, Aaron Singerman intentionally ordered an under dose of product. You will also see that John Meadows tested the product, and only this product, that Aaron ordered to be under dosed, and then attempted to extort Prime Nutrition by offering to stay silent as long as he received a substantial sum of money from Prime Nutrition.
Screenshots here: http://imgur.com/a/EkTVz
06/06/15 - Aaron Singerman wishes to no longer work with John Meadows (image linked below)
08/13/15 – The label designer notices that 20mg is what's inside, not 50mg. Aaron says to just change label to 50mg (image linked below)
05/05/16 - Aaron Singerman is fired as a manager of Prime Nutrition, while remaining on as a shareholder of Prime Nutrition.
08/11/16 - John Meadows sponsorship with Prime Nutrition is terminated. (image linked below)
09/28/16 - John Meadows emails Aaron offering to settle and stay quiet as long as he receives $100,000.00 (image linked below)
Before any issues arose concerning Prime Nutrition’s products, Aaron Singerman expressed that he wished to no longer work John Meadows. While with Prime, Aaron notoriously wanted products and labels created as quickly as possible, with authenticity and accuracy coming second. John does not work fast. When the product was in final creation stages, the emails show that the manufacturer showed us the product only had 20mg of Teacrine, when Meadows had suggested 50mg. Aaron instructed the label designer to "just change" the label to say 50mg. Teacrine is a very costly ingredient that also vastly effected the taste - an under dose of this ingredient meant big savings and better flavor reviews regardless of efficacy.
In May of 2016, events that cannot be discussed due to confidentiality requirements led to Aaron Singerman being fired from Prime Nutrition. At this time large amounts of INTRA-MD EAA+ had been created and sold under his supervision. Under Prime's new leadership, John Meadows' sponsorship was terminated in August of 2016. This led to John Meadows threatening suit against Prime Nutrition owners and the current extortion and smear campaign playing out in social media today.
On September 7, 2016, John received test results for the product, yet decided to hold them until October 3, 2016. As shown in the screenshots above, John’s attorney wrote a letter notifying us of the test results followed by an email from John Meadows demanding $100,000.00 to withhold the information from the public. If John was truly concerned about the consumer he would have followed the proper protocol and notified the FDA as well as work hand in hand with Prime Nutrition to remedy this unfortunate situation and protect the consumer; instead he chose to attempt to line his own pockets by engaging in highly illegal and unethical conduct. We believe that Aaron Singerman: (1) coerced John Meadows because he knew full well that we had this information (seen in screenshots above); (2) that it was truly Aaron who designed the product and was notified that ingredients were incorrect; and (3) instead instructed the label designer to follow through as is knowing full well that the label was incorrect.
Finally, here's a word from Wes Houser of DuraCap in regards to this matter:
"So, you may have seen some activity on various social media outlets recently regarding John Meadows. As of right now, a lot of strong feelings are being expressed and we feel that we must take some measures to clear the air here about what is actually going on.
Currently, all of Prime Nutrition’s products are manufactured by Duracap. John Meadows has directly accused Duracap of underdosing the levels of teacrine in Intra-MD EAA+. Samples of Intra-MD EAA+ were sent out for testing and confirmed that this was, indeed, the case. While this situation was unfortunate for Prime Nutrition customers, we guarantee that any and all products we produce will meet what is listed on its product label going forward.
We do, however, know why teacrine did not meet the levels indicated on the product’s label. This was a result of a direct order from Aaron Singerman to change the levels of teacrine from 50 mg to 20 mg, and then to keep the label the same.
To rectify this situation, a product recall has been issued for Intra MD EAA+. Any customer dissatisfied with Intra-MD EAA+ is eligible for a full refund. To claim your refund, send an email to cs@primenutrition.com entitled “Intra MD-EAA+ recall.“
Duracap takes issues like these very seriously and will do everything within our power to ensure that all of the products we manufacture, in fact, match all levels of ingredients listed on their labels."
Wes Houser
Active Sports Distribution
Link to images here http://m.imgur.com/a/EkTVz
(http://i.gifntext.com/138005-didn-t-read-lol.gif)
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Just announced.
Hi-Tech buys controlling shares of Prime Nutrition.
Says the poor quality will immediately cease and all new products will be made as labeled.
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Just announced.
Hi-Tech buys controlling shares of Prime Nutrition.
Says the poor quality will immediately cease and all new products will be made as labeled.
You're right! http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/mr-jared-wheat-principal-owner-of-hi-tech-pharmaceuticals-acquires-co-ownership-of-prime-nutrition-300339863.html (http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/mr-jared-wheat-principal-owner-of-hi-tech-pharmaceuticals-acquires-co-ownership-of-prime-nutrition-300339863.html)
Prime really is today's Gaspari. Didn't the same thing happen to Gaspari? HTP bought them after Rich declared bankruptcy or something.
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You're right! http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/mr-jared-wheat-principal-owner-of-hi-tech-pharmaceuticals-acquires-co-ownership-of-prime-nutrition-300339863.html (http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/mr-jared-wheat-principal-owner-of-hi-tech-pharmaceuticals-acquires-co-ownership-of-prime-nutrition-300339863.html)
Prime really is today's Gaspari. Didn't the same thing happen to Gaspari? HTP bought them after Rich declared bankruptcy or something.
yeah wanna be pro rich scum bag ass had alot of law suits against, and he overspent, had to sell it, and now does gay 4 pay on the side
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You're right! http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/mr-jared-wheat-principal-owner-of-hi-tech-pharmaceuticals-acquires-co-ownership-of-prime-nutrition-300339863.html (http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/mr-jared-wheat-principal-owner-of-hi-tech-pharmaceuticals-acquires-co-ownership-of-prime-nutrition-300339863.html)
Prime really is today's Gaspari. Didn't the same thing happen to Gaspari? HTP bought them after Rich declared bankruptcy or something.
I believe you are correct. After they had to stop selling M1T, sales fell off big time and they went under.
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Profit margins are interesting. No wonder it is a billion dollar industry and there's enough of a lobby to keep it away from the FDA...
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I also find this to be of interest, Vince, mainly because I personally know a good number of those involved within the supplement industry but have never met the principals mentioned under this post.
Keep on truck'n.
Those who fail to feel likewise should simply avoid reading this part of the GetBig Board.
I have a few questions but the big one is ..... Doesn't the mislabeling of a product conflict with the regulations of the FDA?
It appears that the only supplement that the FDA shows any interest in .... are the dietary sups.
But it is possible that a mislabeling 'case' such as this might get their attention.
And how come the FDA apparently takes no interest in what is happening within the industry?
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/06/opinion/the-politics-of-fraudulent-dietary-supplements.html?_r=0
To understand how we got here, you have to go back to 1994, when Senator Orrin G. Hatch of Utah midwifed through Congress a new industry protected from all but minimal regulation. It is also an industry that would make many of his closest associates and family members rich. In turn, they’ve rewarded him with sizable campaign contributions.
Even though serious illnesses, and some deaths are on the rise from misuse of these supplements, Hatch is determined to keep regulators at bay. “I am committed to protect this industry and the integrity of its products,” he told a gathering of potency pill-pushers and the like in Utah last fall.
In the past, Hatch has been remarkably blunt about helping his family and friends in the fake drug trade. “I do whatever they ask me to do many times because they’ve never asked me to do anything that is improper,” Hatch said in 2011. He was referring to the firm of his son, Scott Hatch, a longtime lobbyist for the supplement industry.
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It's amazing what we crave for our cheat meals.
I'll have a cheat meal every two weeks currently and I always want takeout Cici's pizza.
The pizza isn't very good at all LOL!
2 things:
1) who has a cheat meal twice a week?!....it's once or twice a week for me.....
2) when I read "Cici's pizza" I just want to hug you.....what kind of sick people were your parents to raise you to get pizza from a chain?!
........this iis kinda like those utter maniacs who buy frozen pizza....
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2 things:
1) who has a cheat meal twice a week?!....it's once or twice a week for me.....
2) when I read "Cici's pizza" I just want to hug you.....what kind of sick people were your parents to raise you to get pizza from a chain?!
........this iis kinda like those utter maniacs who buy frozen pizza....
Learn to read/comprehend. He has a cheat meal once every two weeks.
Chain pizza is fine. I hear you though, it's nothing compared to authentic mom and pop pizza joints.
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Actually Aaron Singerman took back control of the company. PJ sold his shares to Jared Wheat. Those two bought out DuraCaps holdings
https://www.facebook.com/aaron.singerman/videos/10157670130785089/?hc_ref=NEWSFEED
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Well, we all predicted the fall here. ::)
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Actually Aaron Singerman took back control of the company. PJ sold his shares to Jared Wheat. Those two bought out DuraCaps holdings
https://www.facebook.com/aaron.singerman/videos/10157670130785089/?hc_ref=NEWSFEED
There is some disagreement with the control portion.
https://blog.priceplow.com/industry-news/prime-nutrition-acquired-jared-wheat
"Today, it was announced that Jared Wheat has bought controlling shares of Prime Nutrition, the supplement company formerly co-owned by Aaron Singerman, PJ Braun, and the Duracap Labs founders."
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DSELLER, Thanks for that info on Hatch. That info encourages me to do more 'research'.
The 'background' (the shit going on behind the curtain) is always more interesting and provocative than the drama the audience is watching on that stage.
Thanks again.
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DSELLER, Thanks for that info on Hatch. That info encourages me to do more 'research'.
The 'background' (the shit going on under the while towel) is always more interesting and provocative than the drama the audience is watching on that stage.
Thanks again.
Fixed.
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yeah wanna be pro rich scum bag ass had alot of law suits against, and he overspent, had to sell it, and now does gay 4 pay on the side
:-X he's in his mid-50's isn't he?! Are there really enough sick fucks out there to pay for that, that he can make a living out of it??
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:-X he's in his mid-50's isn't he?! Are there really enough sick fucks out there to pay for that, that he can make a living out of it??
wanna be pro i wouldnt put rich past anything. hes gotta pay those bills somehow .
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Chain pizza is fine..
your parents raised you horribly
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wanna be pro i wouldnt put rich past anything. hes gotta pay those bills somehow .
Oh I wouldn't put it past him. I'm just wondering if there's a market for saggy skinned 50 year olds with atrophied muscles. If there is, then more power to him lol.
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your parents raised you horribly
;D
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SMH These con artist are giving the industry a bad name.
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SMH These con artist are giving the industry a bad name.
As if it had any name to begin with... ::)
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Oh I wouldn't put it past him. I'm just wondering if there's a market for saggy skinned 50 year olds with atrophied muscles. If there is, then more power to him lol.
have you seen his videos lately man hes atrocious looking trains to heavy with really shitty form to, kinda like a midget white trash version of coleman
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have you seen his videos lately man hes atrocious looking trains to heavy with really shitty form to, kinda like a midget white trash version of coleman
I was never a fan of Gaspari so the only videos I've seen him in was that battle for the Olympia or whatever, where he's talking about eating spinach pasta or something, and that "collab" he did with Janoy and Coath Adam. In the Janoy video he was pretty banged up looking, that's why I wondered if anyone would even be willing to pay for his nudes or any type of g4p action.
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your parents raised you horribly
be that as it may. read the whole post. dummy.