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Re: PJ Braun posts evidence against slingerman/meadows
« Reply #50 on: October 05, 2016, 11:30:38 AM »
It's amazing what we crave for our cheat meals.

I'll have a cheat meal every two weeks currently and I always want takeout Cici's pizza.

The pizza isn't very good at all LOL!
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Re: PJ Braun posts evidence against slingerman/meadows
« Reply #51 on: October 05, 2016, 11:42:22 AM »
Clarification and evidence regarding John Meadows, Prime Nutrition, Aaron Singerman, and myself.

Below is a timeline of events with unaltered screenshots that will shed some light on the current situation. The emails evidence several things:

First, as you can clearly see, Aaron Singerman intentionally ordered an under dose of product. You will also see that John Meadows tested the product, and only this product, that Aaron ordered to be under dosed, and then attempted to extort Prime Nutrition by offering to stay silent as long as he received a substantial sum of money from Prime Nutrition.

Screenshots here: http://imgur.com/a/EkTVz

06/06/15 - Aaron Singerman wishes to no longer work with John Meadows (image linked below)
08/13/15 – The label designer notices that 20mg is what's inside, not 50mg. Aaron says to just change label to 50mg (image linked below)
05/05/16 - Aaron Singerman is fired as a manager of Prime Nutrition, while remaining on as a shareholder of Prime Nutrition.
08/11/16 - John Meadows sponsorship with Prime Nutrition is terminated. (image linked below)
09/28/16 - John Meadows emails Aaron offering to settle and stay quiet as long as he receives $100,000.00 (image linked below)
Before any issues arose concerning Prime Nutrition’s products, Aaron Singerman expressed that he wished to no longer work John Meadows. While with Prime, Aaron notoriously wanted products and labels created as quickly as possible, with authenticity and accuracy coming second. John does not work fast. When the product was in final creation stages, the emails show that the manufacturer showed us the product only had 20mg of Teacrine, when Meadows had suggested 50mg. Aaron instructed the label designer to "just change" the label to say 50mg. Teacrine is a very costly ingredient that also vastly effected the taste - an under dose of this ingredient meant big savings and better flavor reviews regardless of efficacy.

In May of 2016, events that cannot be discussed due to confidentiality requirements led to Aaron Singerman being fired from Prime Nutrition. At this time large amounts of INTRA-MD EAA+ had been created and sold under his supervision. Under Prime's new leadership, John Meadows' sponsorship was terminated in August of 2016. This led to John Meadows threatening suit against Prime Nutrition owners and the current extortion and smear campaign playing out in social media today.

On September 7, 2016, John received test results for the product, yet decided to hold them until October 3, 2016. As shown in the screenshots above, John’s attorney wrote a letter notifying us of the test results followed by an email from John Meadows demanding $100,000.00 to withhold the information from the public. If John was truly concerned about the consumer he would have followed the proper protocol and notified the FDA as well as work hand in hand with Prime Nutrition to remedy this unfortunate situation and protect the consumer; instead he chose to attempt to line his own pockets by engaging in highly illegal and unethical conduct. We believe that Aaron Singerman: (1) coerced John Meadows because he knew full well that we had this information (seen in screenshots above); (2) that it was truly Aaron who designed the product and was notified that ingredients were incorrect; and (3) instead instructed the label designer to follow through as is knowing full well that the label was incorrect.

Finally, here's a word from Wes Houser of DuraCap in regards to this matter:

"So, you may have seen some activity on various social media outlets recently regarding John Meadows. As of right now, a lot of strong feelings are being expressed and we feel that we must take some measures to clear the air here about what is actually going on.

Currently, all of Prime Nutrition’s products are manufactured by Duracap. John Meadows has directly accused Duracap of underdosing the levels of teacrine in Intra-MD EAA+. Samples of Intra-MD EAA+ were sent out for testing and confirmed that this was, indeed, the case. While this situation was unfortunate for Prime Nutrition customers, we guarantee that any and all products we produce will meet what is listed on its product label going forward.

We do, however, know why teacrine did not meet the levels indicated on the product’s label. This was a result of a direct order from Aaron Singerman to change the levels of teacrine from 50 mg to 20 mg, and then to keep the label the same.

To rectify this situation, a product recall has been issued for Intra MD EAA+. Any customer dissatisfied with Intra-MD EAA+ is eligible for a full refund. To claim your refund, send an email to cs@primenutrition.com entitled “Intra MD-EAA+ recall.“

Duracap takes issues like these very seriously and will do everything within our power to ensure that all of the products we manufacture, in fact, match all levels of ingredients listed on their labels."

Wes Houser
Active Sports Distribution

Link to images here http://m.imgur.com/a/EkTVz

reading that facebook post Aaron is actually telling that guy who has the formulation order the dose from the other guy  is wrong(20mg) and that it needs(the dose formulation, not the logo) to be changed to a 50mg dose.

This PJ fella is not too bright. If this was some facebook rant about a breakup with a friend/girlfriend/politics  or the news fine, but you dont put legally damaging shit online like this to falsely try to "prove" a point, you get lawyers to take care of it.

prediction: PJ is probably being told to shut his mouth as we read this.
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Re: PJ Braun posts evidence against slingerman/meadows
« Reply #52 on: October 05, 2016, 11:43:39 AM »
Clarification and evidence regarding John Meadows, Prime Nutrition, Aaron Singerman, and myself.

Below is a timeline of events with unaltered screenshots that will shed some light on the current situation. The emails evidence several things:

First, as you can clearly see, Aaron Singerman intentionally ordered an under dose of product. You will also see that John Meadows tested the product, and only this product, that Aaron ordered to be under dosed, and then attempted to extort Prime Nutrition by offering to stay silent as long as he received a substantial sum of money from Prime Nutrition.

Screenshots here: http://imgur.com/a/EkTVz

06/06/15 - Aaron Singerman wishes to no longer work with John Meadows (image linked below)
08/13/15 – The label designer notices that 20mg is what's inside, not 50mg. Aaron says to just change label to 50mg (image linked below)
05/05/16 - Aaron Singerman is fired as a manager of Prime Nutrition, while remaining on as a shareholder of Prime Nutrition.
08/11/16 - John Meadows sponsorship with Prime Nutrition is terminated. (image linked below)
09/28/16 - John Meadows emails Aaron offering to settle and stay quiet as long as he receives $100,000.00 (image linked below)
Before any issues arose concerning Prime Nutrition’s products, Aaron Singerman expressed that he wished to no longer work John Meadows. While with Prime, Aaron notoriously wanted products and labels created as quickly as possible, with authenticity and accuracy coming second. John does not work fast. When the product was in final creation stages, the emails show that the manufacturer showed us the product only had 20mg of Teacrine, when Meadows had suggested 50mg. Aaron instructed the label designer to "just change" the label to say 50mg. Teacrine is a very costly ingredient that also vastly effected the taste - an under dose of this ingredient meant big savings and better flavor reviews regardless of efficacy.

In May of 2016, events that cannot be discussed due to confidentiality requirements led to Aaron Singerman being fired from Prime Nutrition. At this time large amounts of INTRA-MD EAA+ had been created and sold under his supervision. Under Prime's new leadership, John Meadows' sponsorship was terminated in August of 2016. This led to John Meadows threatening suit against Prime Nutrition owners and the current extortion and smear campaign playing out in social media today.

On September 7, 2016, John received test results for the product, yet decided to hold them until October 3, 2016. As shown in the screenshots above, John’s attorney wrote a letter notifying us of the test results followed by an email from John Meadows demanding $100,000.00 to withhold the information from the public. If John was truly concerned about the consumer he would have followed the proper protocol and notified the FDA as well as work hand in hand with Prime Nutrition to remedy this unfortunate situation and protect the consumer; instead he chose to attempt to line his own pockets by engaging in highly illegal and unethical conduct. We believe that Aaron Singerman: (1) coerced John Meadows because he knew full well that we had this information (seen in screenshots above); (2) that it was truly Aaron who designed the product and was notified that ingredients were incorrect; and (3) instead instructed the label designer to follow through as is knowing full well that the label was incorrect.

Finally, here's a word from Wes Houser of DuraCap in regards to this matter:

"So, you may have seen some activity on various social media outlets recently regarding John Meadows. As of right now, a lot of strong feelings are being expressed and we feel that we must take some measures to clear the air here about what is actually going on.

Currently, all of Prime Nutrition’s products are manufactured by Duracap. John Meadows has directly accused Duracap of underdosing the levels of teacrine in Intra-MD EAA+. Samples of Intra-MD EAA+ were sent out for testing and confirmed that this was, indeed, the case. While this situation was unfortunate for Prime Nutrition customers, we guarantee that any and all products we produce will meet what is listed on its product label going forward.

We do, however, know why teacrine did not meet the levels indicated on the product’s label. This was a result of a direct order from Aaron Singerman to change the levels of teacrine from 50 mg to 20 mg, and then to keep the label the same.

To rectify this situation, a product recall has been issued for Intra MD EAA+. Any customer dissatisfied with Intra-MD EAA+ is eligible for a full refund. To claim your refund, send an email to cs@primenutrition.com entitled “Intra MD-EAA+ recall.“

Duracap takes issues like these very seriously and will do everything within our power to ensure that all of the products we manufacture, in fact, match all levels of ingredients listed on their labels."

Wes Houser
Active Sports Distribution

Link to images here http://m.imgur.com/a/EkTVz

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Re: PJ Braun posts evidence against slingerman/meadows
« Reply #53 on: October 05, 2016, 12:59:27 PM »
Just announced.

Hi-Tech buys controlling shares of Prime Nutrition.

Says the poor quality will immediately cease and all new products will be made as labeled.

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« Reply #54 on: October 05, 2016, 01:03:40 PM »
Just announced.

Hi-Tech buys controlling shares of Prime Nutrition.

Says the poor quality will immediately cease and all new products will be made as labeled.

You're right! http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/mr-jared-wheat-principal-owner-of-hi-tech-pharmaceuticals-acquires-co-ownership-of-prime-nutrition-300339863.html

Prime really is today's Gaspari. Didn't the same thing happen to Gaspari? HTP bought them after Rich declared bankruptcy or something.

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« Reply #55 on: October 05, 2016, 01:21:07 PM »
You're right! http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/mr-jared-wheat-principal-owner-of-hi-tech-pharmaceuticals-acquires-co-ownership-of-prime-nutrition-300339863.html

Prime really is today's Gaspari. Didn't the same thing happen to Gaspari? HTP bought them after Rich declared bankruptcy or something.

yeah wanna be  pro rich scum bag ass had alot of law suits against, and he overspent, had to sell it, and now does gay 4 pay on the side

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« Reply #56 on: October 05, 2016, 01:54:09 PM »
You're right! http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/mr-jared-wheat-principal-owner-of-hi-tech-pharmaceuticals-acquires-co-ownership-of-prime-nutrition-300339863.html

Prime really is today's Gaspari. Didn't the same thing happen to Gaspari? HTP bought them after Rich declared bankruptcy or something.

I believe you are correct. After they had to stop selling M1T, sales fell off big time and they went under.

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Re: PJ Braun posts evidence against slingerman/meadows
« Reply #57 on: October 05, 2016, 02:28:18 PM »
Profit margins are interesting. No wonder it is a billion dollar industry and there's enough of a lobby to keep it away from the FDA...

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« Reply #58 on: October 05, 2016, 02:35:10 PM »
I also find this to be of interest, Vince, mainly because I personally know a good number of those involved within the supplement industry but have never met the principals mentioned under this post.

Keep on truck'n.

Those who fail to feel likewise should simply avoid reading this part of the GetBig Board.

I have a few questions but the big one is ..... Doesn't the mislabeling of a product conflict with the regulations of the FDA?

It appears that the only supplement that the FDA shows any interest in .... are the dietary sups.

But it is possible that a mislabeling 'case' such as this might get their attention.

And how come the FDA apparently takes no interest in what is happening within the industry?


http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/06/opinion/the-politics-of-fraudulent-dietary-supplements.html?_r=0


To understand how we got here, you have to go back to 1994, when Senator Orrin G. Hatch of Utah midwifed through Congress a new industry protected from all but minimal regulation. It is also an industry that would make many of his closest associates and family members rich. In turn, they’ve rewarded him with sizable campaign contributions.

Even though serious illnesses, and some deaths are on the rise from misuse of these supplements, Hatch is determined to keep regulators at bay. “I am committed to protect this industry and the integrity of its products,” he told a gathering of potency pill-pushers and the like in Utah last fall.

In the past, Hatch has been remarkably blunt about helping his family and friends in the fake drug trade. “I do whatever they ask me to do many times because they’ve never asked me to do anything that is improper,” Hatch said in 2011. He was referring to the firm of his son, Scott Hatch, a longtime lobbyist for the supplement industry.


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Re: PJ Braun posts evidence against slingerman/meadows
« Reply #59 on: October 05, 2016, 02:36:53 PM »
It's amazing what we crave for our cheat meals.

I'll have a cheat meal every two weeks currently and I always want takeout Cici's pizza.

The pizza isn't very good at all LOL!

2 things:
1) who has a cheat meal twice a week?!....it's once or twice a week for me.....
2) when I read "Cici's pizza" I just want to hug you.....what kind of sick people were your parents to raise you to get pizza from a chain?!


........this iis kinda like those utter maniacs who buy frozen pizza....

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« Reply #60 on: October 05, 2016, 07:20:47 PM »
2 things:
1) who has a cheat meal twice a week?!....it's once or twice a week for me.....
2) when I read "Cici's pizza" I just want to hug you.....what kind of sick people were your parents to raise you to get pizza from a chain?!


........this iis kinda like those utter maniacs who buy frozen pizza....

Learn to read/comprehend.  He has a cheat meal once every two weeks.

Chain pizza is fine.  I hear you though, it's nothing compared to authentic mom and pop pizza joints.

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Re: PJ Braun posts evidence against slingerman/meadows
« Reply #61 on: October 05, 2016, 08:41:06 PM »
Actually Aaron Singerman took back control of the company.  PJ sold his shares to Jared Wheat.  Those two bought out DuraCaps holdings

https://www.facebook.com/aaron.singerman/videos/10157670130785089/?hc_ref=NEWSFEED
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« Reply #62 on: October 05, 2016, 09:19:03 PM »
Well, we all predicted the fall here.     ::)

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« Reply #63 on: October 05, 2016, 09:33:42 PM »
Actually Aaron Singerman took back control of the company.  PJ sold his shares to Jared Wheat.  Those two bought out DuraCaps holdings

https://www.facebook.com/aaron.singerman/videos/10157670130785089/?hc_ref=NEWSFEED

There is some disagreement with the control portion.

https://blog.priceplow.com/industry-news/prime-nutrition-acquired-jared-wheat

"Today, it was announced that Jared Wheat has bought controlling shares of Prime Nutrition, the supplement company formerly co-owned by Aaron Singerman, PJ Braun, and the Duracap Labs founders."

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« Reply #64 on: October 05, 2016, 09:37:54 PM »
DSELLER, Thanks for that info on Hatch. That info encourages me to do more 'research'.

The 'background' (the shit going on behind the curtain) is always more interesting and provocative than the drama the audience is watching on that stage.

Thanks again.

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« Reply #65 on: October 05, 2016, 10:16:03 PM »
DSELLER, Thanks for that info on Hatch. That info encourages me to do more 'research'.

The 'background' (the shit going on under the while towel) is always more interesting and provocative than the drama the audience is watching on that stage.

Thanks again.

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Re: PJ Braun posts evidence against slingerman/meadows
« Reply #66 on: October 06, 2016, 05:30:36 AM »
yeah wanna be  pro rich scum bag ass had alot of law suits against, and he overspent, had to sell it, and now does gay 4 pay on the side

 :-X he's in his mid-50's isn't he?! Are there really enough sick fucks out there to pay for that, that he can make a living out of it??

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« Reply #67 on: October 06, 2016, 06:58:43 AM »
:-X he's in his mid-50's isn't he?! Are there really enough sick fucks out there to pay for that, that he can make a living out of it??


wanna be pro  i wouldnt put rich past anything.  hes gotta pay those bills somehow .

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Re: PJ Braun posts evidence against slingerman/meadows
« Reply #68 on: October 06, 2016, 07:00:45 AM »


Chain pizza is fine..


your parents raised you horribly

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« Reply #69 on: October 06, 2016, 07:30:03 AM »

wanna be pro  i wouldnt put rich past anything.  hes gotta pay those bills somehow .

Oh I wouldn't put it past him. I'm just wondering if there's a market for saggy skinned 50 year olds with atrophied muscles. If there is, then more power to him lol.

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« Reply #70 on: October 06, 2016, 08:48:06 AM »

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« Reply #71 on: October 06, 2016, 08:55:38 AM »
SMH  These con artist are giving the industry a bad name.

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Re: PJ Braun posts evidence against slingerman/meadows
« Reply #72 on: October 06, 2016, 08:57:53 AM »
SMH  These con artist are giving the industry a bad name.

As if it had any name to begin with...  ::)

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« Reply #73 on: October 06, 2016, 09:08:30 AM »
Oh I wouldn't put it past him. I'm just wondering if there's a market for saggy skinned 50 year olds with atrophied muscles. If there is, then more power to him lol.

have you seen his videos lately man hes atrocious looking trains to heavy with really shitty form to, kinda like a midget white trash version of coleman

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« Reply #74 on: October 06, 2016, 09:36:59 AM »
have you seen his videos lately man hes atrocious looking trains to heavy with really shitty form to, kinda like a midget white trash version of coleman

I was never a fan of Gaspari so the only videos I've seen him in was that battle for the Olympia or whatever, where he's talking about eating spinach pasta or something, and that "collab" he did with Janoy and Coath Adam. In the Janoy video he was pretty banged up looking, that's why I wondered if anyone would even be willing to pay for his nudes or any type of g4p action.