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Re: The Great Kai Greene interview by Shawn Ray...Part 2
« Reply #25 on: February 28, 2009, 07:20:45 AM »
Seriously this guy looks so friggin unhealthy, stop that shit!

ATHLETES REP, DO SOMETHING!! Or we have the next Munzer right there.

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Re: The Great Kai Greene interview by Shawn Ray...Part 2
« Reply #26 on: February 28, 2009, 07:22:02 AM »
the last time I saw someone so big was Tom Prince walking around at over 300 lean pounds so I've seen it before...there's just this look to it, almost impossibly big...

Just imagine how big Prince would've got if he did the dreaded insulin/high dose GH cocktail  :D





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Re: The Great Kai Greene interview by Shawn Ray...Part 2
« Reply #27 on: February 28, 2009, 07:22:57 AM »
What a boring interview.

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Re: The Great Kai Greene interview by Shawn Ray...Part 2
« Reply #28 on: February 28, 2009, 07:23:12 AM »
Seriously this guy looks so friggin unhealthy, stop that shit!

ATHLETES REP, DO SOMETHING!! Or we have the next Munzer right there.

Nah, this is exciting. We, or at least I, want to see something freakish.

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Re: The Great Kai Greene interview by Shawn Ray...Part 2
« Reply #29 on: February 28, 2009, 07:24:40 AM »
Seems like Kai is having second thoughts about Charles Glass. If a personal trainer makes you pass out on the floor, that would make anybody have second thoughts.

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Re: The Great Kai Greene interview by Shawn Ray...Part 2
« Reply #30 on: February 28, 2009, 07:26:04 AM »
Seriously this guy looks so friggin unhealthy, stop that shit!

ATHLETES REP, DO SOMETHING!! Or we have the next Munzer right there.

Come on, join Club Grapefruit

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Re: The Great Kai Greene interview by Shawn Ray...Part 2
« Reply #31 on: February 28, 2009, 07:26:40 AM »
Honestly I didn't have inside info on the diuretics, but I just know "the look"...you've gotta understand how big Kai was 3 weeks ago...freakishly big...I PM'ed Shawn on the MD forums then and told him to keep an eye on Kai because this was gonna be epic for one reason or another and lo and behold it's going down...it was a look that told me he might not make it out of this "unscathed"...the last time I saw someone so big was Tom Prince walking around at over 300 lean pounds so I've seen it before...there's just this look to it, almost impossibly big...plus if you'll remember he's been on this trajectory since dieting down that last time when we were seeing guest posing shots a week out of him being smooth then showing up with the deepest quad striations we've seen him have in time for the show, after which the rumors of a short hospital stay and "problems" nobody ever gave a straight explanation for made their rounds...

But all in all this Arnold will be a good one to watch with Kai and Victor having these runs that they're apparently on...Victor's upper body looks to be on par with the best I've ever seen size-wise; but I'm telling you, if Kai pulls this off he could make Victor's lower body look woefully deficient.

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Re: The Great Kai Greene interview by Shawn Ray...Part 2
« Reply #32 on: February 28, 2009, 07:27:49 AM »
Holy shit...do you see him sweating?

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Re: The Great Kai Greene interview by Shawn Ray...Part 2
« Reply #33 on: February 28, 2009, 07:30:56 AM »
Holy shit...do you see him sweating?

 ???

yes, and i was wondering if my "video encoder" was wrong with the frames.  :-\

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Re: The Great Kai Greene interview by Shawn Ray...Part 2
« Reply #34 on: February 28, 2009, 07:31:03 AM »
I think Kai's got a bit of a Wizard of Oz fascination; pictures of him guest posing as the cowardly lion that time come to mind so it could be that he was gonna write this to his dramatic liking regardless of what Charles had to offer him...come on, the guy's won a pro show before, he knows what's going on here, it's not Charles' fault...

What do you think of Charles as a trainer and adviser? I suspect the benefit is mostly psychological, having an esteemed person in your corner, someone who was part of others' successes. As opposed to the training techniques themselves. It all starts in the mind so it can help a huge deal of course. Though Kai's trust in Charles didn't seem to be that high right now.

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Re: The Great Kai Greene interview by Shawn Ray...Part 2
« Reply #35 on: February 28, 2009, 07:32:45 AM »
Holy shit...do you see him sweating?

 ???

Reminds me of pics of Ronnie at the O press conference.

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Re: The Great Kai Greene interview by Shawn Ray...Part 2
« Reply #36 on: February 28, 2009, 07:36:05 AM »
Reminds me of pics of Ronnie at the O press conference.

you know...you know...you know....

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Re: The Great Kai Greene interview by Shawn Ray...Part 2
« Reply #37 on: February 28, 2009, 07:40:12 AM »
Kai is a very cerebral young man

It must be true, cos shawn said so!

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Re: The Great Kai Greene interview by Shawn Ray...Part 2
« Reply #38 on: February 28, 2009, 07:57:22 AM »
What do you think of Charles as a trainer and adviser? I suspect the benefit is mostly psychological, having an esteemed person in your corner, someone who was part of others' successes. As opposed to the training techniques themselves. It all starts in the mind so it can help a huge deal of course. Though Kai's trust in Charles didn't seem to be that high right now.

Charles is a living legend in this sport.  From my perspective, everyone in Gold's Gym knows Charles is the man whether they admit to it or not.  The fact is, Charles has seen so many elite physiques come and go...sometimes I just think, wow, this guy has probably seen the largest number of the most extreme examples of human conditioning ever...he has interacted with them extensively during many of the activities and times that led to their achieving that conditioning...he's watched the muscles flex as they performed the exercises, he's watched the expressions, he's seen their behaviors, interacted, etc...he's seen things that have never been photographed for anyone else to see ever...all of this actually goes a long way in helping to create a physique that is a work of art...I've gotta think that just his observation of you and subtle direction probably helps fuel a very special process in the people who he comes in contact with...and when you add to the fact that many of these people trained BEFORE they met him with the intention of one day getting to work with him, well I think you could maybe even say that he was responsible for a little bit of that development too...like Kai's saying here...in modern bodybuilding Charles Glass represents "the wizard" of training, the pinnacle of a whole industry, of a whole sport/hobby.  People have it in their head that if they are to be the best in the world, then they will eventually be trained by Charles Glass.  So if they truly believe that, that's what he will be able to help them do.  I'm reasonably certain that if you're ready for him Charles is as capable as any other person on earth of helping you reach your peak.  I just don't think Charles has ever seen anything like Kai before...I don't think ANYBODY is gonna know what to do with Kai better than Kai...from all we've seen from him, Kai's on the fringe of some stuff that nobody here fully understands if you ask me...I'm spooked that he's as well-spoken and articulate as anyone else we've ever heard from in the industry...if you'll notice he's even giving Shawn a run for his money here in this department...so from the grapefruit, to the Michael Jackson posing routine (arguably one of the best ever seen), to the crazy guest posing stunts/costumes...this guy is something else, I just want people to realize it now while it's playing out.  

And just to clear things up about Kai's "passing out" the other day after his third session of cardio, Charles told me himself that he only had him doing 2 sessions.  So you really can't hold Charles accountable there.   ;D  

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Re: The Great Kai Greene interview by Shawn Ray...Part 2
« Reply #39 on: February 28, 2009, 08:01:00 AM »
How much approximately did Kai pay for Charles' "help", what does he charge?

Was or is Glass a source as well, like most of the "trainers" are?

Payment...don't know. Whatever it is was too much. People don't realize that Charles is clueless when it comes to diet because he is one of those guys who could eat anything, "supplement" and be shredded. He was legless in his day, but had great genetics for condition without working his ass off. Did very little cardio as well.

As for a source, you bet your ass.
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Re: The Great Kai Greene interview by Shawn Ray...Part 2
« Reply #40 on: February 28, 2009, 08:11:41 AM »
the Michael Jackson posing routine (arguably one of the best ever seen),

The first minute is probably the best routine I've ever seen.






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Re: The Great Kai Greene interview by Shawn Ray...Part 2
« Reply #41 on: February 28, 2009, 08:17:29 AM »
The first minute is probably the best routine I've ever seen.







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Re: The Great Kai Greene interview by Shawn Ray...Part 2
« Reply #42 on: February 28, 2009, 08:42:01 AM »
Kai is a GREAT poser...

I would like to see him how he will pose in a classic song....im sure he will make it phenomenal.

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Re: The Great Kai Greene interview by Shawn Ray...Part 2
« Reply #43 on: February 28, 2009, 08:43:56 AM »
I think Kai's got a bit of a Wizard of Oz fascination; pictures of him guest posing as the cowardly lion that time come to mind so it could be that he was gonna write this to his dramatic liking regardless of what Charles had to offer him...come on, the guy's won a pro show before, he knows what's going on here, it's not Charles' fault...but you know I don't think Kai really means to be bashing Charles but when you're at this point precontest and they've got a camera in your face it's kinda hard not to let some of the things slip that you know you really shouldn't be discussing yet...which he kind of hinted at in the beginning of the interview...it makes for good web TV but maybe the MD people need to back off a little and let him deal with some of this stuff on his own for a minute; Kai looks to be very vulnerable right now and I think he really just wished Shawn would have stopped the interview at least long enough to let the cramping subside.    

Exactly,  now, Glass got Gunter is some of the best condition he's been in, and Gunter said so.  Bt Shawn should have known the deal, when he was in the last stages of dieting, he didn't want to talk either...Oh, I forgot we're talking about Shawn Ray.

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Re: The Great Kai Greene interview by Shawn Ray...Part 2
« Reply #44 on: February 28, 2009, 09:07:39 AM »
Nah, this is exciting. We, or at least I, want to see something freakish.

like this you sick bastard  >:(  ;D
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Re: The Great Kai Greene interview by Shawn Ray...Part 2
« Reply #45 on: February 28, 2009, 09:11:33 AM »
Exactly,  now, Glass got Gunter is some of the best condition he's been in, and Gunter said so.  Bt Shawn should have known the deal, when he was in the last stages of dieting, he didn't want to talk either...Oh, I forgot we're talking about Shawn Ray.
I don't know...I mean, no one held a gun to Kai's head and forced him to go through with this interview.  :-\
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Re: The Great Kai Greene interview by Shawn Ray...Part 2
« Reply #46 on: February 28, 2009, 09:13:38 AM »
The first minute is probably the best routine I've ever seen.







to me that is not good posing - he's dancing/girating, but not posing.

he might throw up the odd side chest and front double bi but so do i everytime i pas a mirror - it doesn't make me ronnie coleman. :D
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Re: The Great Kai Greene interview by Shawn Ray...Part 2
« Reply #47 on: February 28, 2009, 09:19:58 AM »
Kai learned what most bodybuilding insiders already know. Glass is an overrated, overhyped trainer who takes on as many pros as possible, pays little attention to any of them but kisses all their asses and then uses that publicity to take on mainstream clients for big money. Glass became "the man" by training Flex and Dillett in the old days, two ridiculous genetic freaks and helping with "supplements". Anyone could have trained those two and they would have looked as good if not better. Didn't even have them train that hard and he did nothing in terms of the diets and prep. Just trained them and advised on supps.

I'm glad Kai had the balls to tell a little of the truth about Glass.

Kai will recover, but not in time for the AC. Nice work, Glassman.
You seem to have a real agenda towards knocking Charles Glass. I don't think its necessary. If people want to utilize the guy's services to improve themselves, it is their prerogative. I just think Kai is learning what guys like Coleman, Yates, and Haney learned long ago...that you don't need to be in the circus of California or have the high profile trainer to get to the highest levels your physique will allow. Shawn Ray knew this too, which seems to be why he always did his own contest prep.

I know I wouldn't want to work with a guy that is also training my competition, but that's just me.

Kai is quite the character. I look forward to the package he brings. I am a fan of his since I saw him back in his earliest shows in NYC when he was a young pup. Personally, I preferred the physique of Kai Greene pre NPC/IFBB than today. His shape was phenomenal then, and with all the added muscle he has today I think his physique no longer flows.
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Re: The Great Kai Greene interview by Shawn Ray...Part 2
« Reply #48 on: February 28, 2009, 09:25:21 AM »
I'm guessing we won't be seeing any handstands during his posing routine at this AC
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p.s Shawn Ray was brutal in that interview, you could tell kai wanted it to end when he said "this is crazy man", then shawn ray said "ah your alright man you can sweat it out"
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Re: The Great Kai Greene interview by Shawn Ray...Part 2
« Reply #49 on: February 28, 2009, 09:28:53 AM »
to me that is not good posing - he's dancing/girating, but not posing.

he might throw up the odd side chest and front double bi but so do i everytime i pas a mirror - it doesn't make me ronnie coleman. :D

That's why I said first minute. The gyrating starts after a minute. :D Incredible posing to an incredible song in the beginning. Intense.  :D