Guys, I am all for moving to the supp board. The only reason I have replied to some of the questions is because I have experience with them and unfortunately, they f$%#'d me up!! Which is why I went with real gear on my docs advice...I just want to make sure others don't mess themselves up but they will no matter what advice I give them.
I was naive enough to think they worked or would work and was caught up in the NATURAL scene. I competed in the NPC Natural shows while on them all the way back to Andostendione. I qualified for national level three differant times beating guys on gear. But after my last show, went to the doc and test was at 100, liver was out of whack, etc!!! And it is supposed to be ok for you because it is sold over the counter...So, never use that crap again and sorry guys for answering some of their questions. I will refrain.
Who knows where half this stuff is made, in someones bathtub or in a burn barrel out back behind the woodshed. But my second cousin on my sisters side wanted me to ask....just kidding