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Title: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: Swlabr on March 14, 2012, 03:55:25 PM
I'm making this thread to show how gh15 helped me personally as a bodybuilder. When I first started reading the bible (first because I still read it -- I call it 'bible studies' nowadays), I was 180 lbs. I had been training for a year or so with reasonable success. 180 lbs @ 8% 6 foot with reasonable strength for a natural was decent. However, my mental state was literally beyond obsessed. I used to sit in my room for an hour before my work out, psyching myself up, watching videos about form and diet, reading bodybuilding.com's latest articles on how to "supercharge my leg work outs" and "get shredded for summer" bla bla bla.

My diet was IMPECCABLE; I planned what I would eat the next day on fitday.com. I remember counting out the number of raisins I would eat (13 every day, never more, sometimes less if I felt bad about my bodyfat levels) and I'd weigh out all my food. If my mother made something that didn't fit my macros I'd make myself some tuna while the rest of the family ate delicious, calorie-dense foods. I was obsessed to say the least.

Anyway, I got to 180 lbs, fairly lean when I started thinking about maybe doing a cycle here and there. I lurked some steroid boards and quickly became an expert in my own mind regarding steroids; I had my cycle planned out. 500 mg test-e/week with 30 mg dbol kickstart lasting all of 12 weeks, then I'd do PCT for 12 weeks because time off = time on. I'd keep all my gains and then do another cycle, this time 500 mg test-e/week with some deca thrown in there, with PCT of course because you can't just stay on forever! YOU'D DIE! During this whole thing diet has to be impeccable bla bla bla.

Then I stumbled across the bible, and I read this:

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that is correct,,
gh15 does not belive in post cycle terapy simply for the mere fact that no one is ever off completely for enough time to need it ,,
in addition the whole pct doesnt help preerve anything but little water from estorgen related products,,the actual difference will be nothign between a guy on pct and a guy off pct as long as they both reduce training and continue eating ,,

the 5-10 lb you hold on you when using pct are always water weight,,mentally pct may be important since some lifter and bodybuilder need this placebo effect for their own brain issues but it has nthingto do with the physiqe,,

you will lose muscle when you stip eatin and training accordingly to your specific situation ,,

beside you take gh and you never need pct again not even the ones with the fucked up head becausse gh will make you happy and your brain will think youre the best physiqe walking around even though youre not,,

gh = prozac and zoloft

look at larry scot and mr oliva and tell me they ever did pct,, the pct thing is a joke of dealers and wanna be bodybuilder that try to sell you more things,,,its an internet phenomenon that became a norm yet hurt you more then help

the human body can recover from anything and fast! dont need no true protien crap my firend nor do those kids needs your stupid pct bottles you like to sell on research sites under grey area,,,

there i no need for pct,,the human body aim at omeostasis,, and thus shall always get back to initiral standards,,,some fellas severe abusers of hormones fuck themselves for ever and not because of hormones ,, in that case million units of hcg also wont help,,the ones who do it know who they are

pain killer + drinking + specific strong narcotic drugs + the homorns use will cauise permenent damage that nothing can recover,,

rest of bodybuilders recover very well,,losing 15 pounds doesnt mean you shrink to nothingness,,insted of 240 youre 225 ,,but always bigger than the 180 lb you started at,,

pct is garbage term came out of the house olds of the dantas and the tropopins that can not and will never ever win a professional card nor win any serious competition

infact the chance of many so called hormonized clubbers and dealers to nto wake up after going to sleep is much rather higher than him becoming professional,,and thats with all the pct in the world

What the fuck? This goes against everything I had read before, but it makes sense... I read more and more and I read this, amongst other things,

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i dont understand whats so fucking hard to follow a diet like this

1 eggwhite carton peptti food or whataveer all whites walmart brand whatever you find
2 cans of pine apple juice
3 banans
some puffpuff cereal with almond milk or something optionsl...some organic shit cereal if you can find

then later on

sushi chirashi its big dish 25 dollaors worth add some rolls to it ,,

then later on  
some steak or chikan or even bbq chikan pizza type from california kitchen style ...+ some icecream peut butter

then later on
more eggwhite papetti the al damn container

then if you are hungry maybe more sushi


whats so hard ?? i dont get this what is so damn hard in follwing this thing? you can get down to 6% and large impressive 220lb 5'10 6% on this diet no problemos ...hgh trenbolona testostrona equipona...we all do this damn thing day in day out,, we dont even do cardio ...thennnnn to get up to 220+ insulina and higher gh take place...this is how it is friends

competition time from 6 to 4% clean the damn diet foro few weeks and you are there,, diuretic to polish it all and stage time

gh15 approved

and this:

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10 most common mistake of up an coming bodybuild,,bible index file


1. thinking you can ever  walk around 8-10% 240+ lb 5-8 -5'10 with out the usage of high doses of testosterona,, this is one of the most common mistakes i see now day fellas do ,,absolitly immposible no matter who you are,, you will never even see 220lb 8% at 5'10 with out good dose in the gram + of testosterona

2. thinking they can grow lean with the usage of insulina at high dose and gh at low dose,,they always find themself dropping over 50lb and in many time more due to fat from within the muscle,,those are the worse bodybuild,,they look great in gym and come competition weigh they go down from 250 to the 200 like there is no tomorrow only to support a massive 36-38 inch gut and minimal muscle improvements ,,they shall be name thie MISGUIDED  from this day on

3. thinking they can can shrink wrapped photo shoot condition with out the usage of diuretic ,,this is common belief made by gurus and absolitly is wrong,,every fitness model and bodybuild is very very femiliar with the usage of diuretics it si integral part of bodybuild and fitness modeling

4.thinking there is any natural ,,true natural photo in a magazine,,NEVER EVER will they put a true natural in magazine unless it is aimed at losing weight and only losing weight which is not what they aim at in bodybuild and fitness magazine,,every one who gets in a maagzine has been chasing it long time and it usualy a consistant long time user of hormones,,

5.thinking that bodybuild is athlete ,,we are not athlete ,,we are drug users ,,hormone users who work with the drugs inorder to improve our look of physiqe,, we work quite short times in the gym ususaly the smart ones are in and out in under an hour,,

6. thinking the advanced bodybuild is blown up due to some heavy lifting ,,NEVER THE CASE,,we got our muscle big due to hormonal usage and good respond to legit products! in high enough doses   !!! this is what got us big muscle and conditioned muscle ,,and we supported it later by heavier poundage and all along we try to work poundage that is newer and heavier when new hormonizers but the saturation limit is maxed very fast ,,and the typical hormonized bodybuild do not work very heavy on a regular basis ,,infact many of us dont even train and look like shit when off our regymen even if only one drug is out of wack with what we need to be taking ,, in ths aspect gh15 would like you to look around in the next few weeks in yoru local gyms and spot the bigger fellas... follow their training,,, tell me if you see them squat and dead lift heavy poundage ,,infact tell me if you see t hem doing anything heavy at all like the 180lb enthusiastic lifter who just started bodybuild,,you tell me that in few weeks pupils

7. thinking doses do not matter,, this is a very important thign to discuess pupils,, why? because it is not you are what you eat like the saying goes,,,IT IS YOU ARE WHAT YOU DOSE ,,IF YOU PLLAY AROUND WITH 500MG OF TESTOSTERONA YOU WILL ALSO LOOK LIKE THAT AND COMPETE IN THE 190S ,,YES BEFORE SHOW YOU REDUCE DOSES BUT YOU NEVR PLAY WITH LOW DOSE OF TESTOSTERONA UNLESS PRE SHOW!  AND THE MORE ADVANCED YOU BECOME THE MORE TESTOSTERONA YOU CAN PLAY WITH BEFORE SHOW BECAUSE THE MORE YOU KNOW YOUR BODY AND CAN GET THE FINISHING TOUCH WITH ALL TOGETHER NOW....D I U R E T I C

8. we do not take supplements,,we do not take over the counter supplements period,,we dont interested in anything other than drugs performing enhancing drugs in most cases with the good bodybuilders,,and sadly other drugs with the local wanna be 260 blown up insulina crap that sit 10% 260 and on stage look like some 200 lb marshmelow fella

9. thinking legit hormone are available right and left,,
it wil take you a good while lto find your nitch ,,sometims years if you are lonesome and have no connections ,,at times 10 years! ,,the ones who get far have very good connections and they look for it from age 16 in highschool ,,trust me on that friends this is something you got to understand ,,the bunk products on the market are alot more than the legit,,to find a great cook and there are not many but take strango for example,,to even have the ability to have this cook will get you places you never dreamed before,,why because its legit and its high quality ,,this is what make you the bodybuild look like a bodybuild ,,not you playing every night with the bench press and pressing 2 plates inbetween your social interactions


10. most bodybuilder are liars,,they will always ALWAYS lie to your face,,from the olde 50 year old who bench prss 5 plates in the morning crew of 6 am when he say he think about cycle but his wife dont agree to it ,,so he uses pro hormone yet bench 5 plates each side for 8 reps,, to the fitness whore that come into the gym at 11 30 am after a good night sleep of 12 hours and after taking good dose of anavar and clenbuterol to start the day  ... to the nightly creature gym rats who also compete locals that just take anything and everything they can ,bunk ,,legit ,, more bunk than  legit and just tell you to eat 5 times a day lots of beans and chikan and make sure you come to train every day 2 hour ,,bodybuild = liar,,to your face we will lie and do it all the time


this is it those are 10 most common things you need to know it is index for bible

At this point my mind is blown. It all makes sense, but it goes against all the other stuff I've read from "seasoned vets" on other boardings. I had read that trenbolone acetate (gh15's favourite steroid) was dangerous, extremely harmful, could seriously fuck you over, bla bla bla. But here is gh15's take:

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WHEN YOU TAKE TRENBOLONA ACE,, THE CHANGES ARE SO FAST ,, THAT EVERY SINGLE DAY YOU WILL SEE A CHANGE,, EVERY WEEK! YOU WILL WAKE UP IN THE MORNING AND STAND IN THE MIRROR AND UNDERSTAND FINALY HOW MUCH BALONIE YOU WERE FED ALONG THE YEARS,,

every actor out ther ewho ever got to look or be talked about with regard to muscle went on a combo of propioneta and trenbolona ace,, EVERY SINGLE ACTOR,,

trenbolona ace,, HARDEN YOUR PHYSIQE ,, AND BRING IT INTO A TIGHT POLISHED ,, BRING OUT THE VEINS YOU HAVE,, AND INCREASE MUSCLE AT THE SAME TIME,, NO NOT WET MUSCLE BUT DRYYYYY MUSCLE,, IT CUPP EVERYTHING AND LINE EVERYTHING,, IT GIVE YOUR PHYSIQE A RUGGED LOOK THAT ONLY LOW BODYFAT WITH INCREASED LEAN MUSCLE CAN DO TO A BODYBUILD,,

TRENBOLONA ACE IS THE MAGIC SOLUTION WHEN SOMEONE WANT TO BE IN CONDITION AND IF SOMEONE IS UNDER STRESS,, THIS PRODUCT IS GIVING YOU MUSCLE LEAN MUSCLE BY THE DAYS,, IT TAKE ABOUT 7 DAYS TO START SEEING REAL SERIOUS CHANGES TO QUALITY OF AN ALREADY LEAN PHYSIQE SUB 10% AND THE CHANGES KEEP COMING AND YOU WIL ALWAYS HEAR JUST HOW LEAN YOU ARE AND HOW RIPPED YOU ARE AND THEN HOW SHRED YOU ARE AND NEVER EVER HOW SMALL YOU ARE BECAUS UNLIKE NATURAL WHO LOSE SIZE WHILE GETTING RIPPED THE TRENBOLONA ACE USERS GAIN LEAN MUSCLE AS IN GAIN SIZE AND REMAIN SAME ON SCALE OR MORE! REALLY DEPENDING ON CALORIC INTAKE,,

TRENBOLONA ACE IS A DRUG THAT BRING UPON DENSITY AND TIGHTNESS ,, IT CHANGES THE OUTLOOK OF BODYBUILD ON THE ALLLLL CULT ,, IT IS A DRUG THAT AT 150MG EVERY DAY CREATE HIGH LEVEL COMPETITORS ,, AND IT IS THE ONE DRUG LIAR DANTA AND SONS WILL TRY TO BALONIE YOU ABOUT FROM MORNING TO EVENING BECAUSE THIS DRUG LET YOU BUILD MUSCLE AND RECUDE BODYFAT SAME TIME ON LOWER CALORIC INTAKE TOO!

EVERY BODY HERE ,, MY PUPILS AND EVERYONE WHO COME READ GH15 FROM AROUND THE WORLD,, ANYONE HERE KNOW THE FEELING OF WAKING UP IN THE MORNING AND ENTERING THE BATHROOM ONLY TO LOOK IN THE MIRROR AND SAY FUCK FUCK FUCK I LOOK FLAT I LOOK LIKE NOTHING I LOOK LIKE I DIDNT EAT ENOUGH I LOOK WEAK ,, THIS CLEAN DIET MAKE ME LOOK LIKE SHIT! IT TAKES FEW HOURS LATER...TO BRING UP YOUR MOOD WHEN YOU GET THE PUMP AND SOME SUGAR IN ....WITH TRENBOLONA ACE WHEN YOU ENTER THE BATHROOM IN THE MORNING...AFTER A WHILE ON TRENBOLONA ACE...A WHILE = COUPLE WEEKS FOR LEAN FELLA LOL,, THE BODYBUUILD SEE THE MUSCLE AND SKIN COME TOGETHER AND BEING ONE! HE SEE A FELLA IN THE BATHROOM MIRROR THAT LOOK LIKE MUSCULAR RIPPED BIGGER VERSION OF WHAT HE IS USED TO ! EVENTHOUGH AT TIME THE WEIGHT WILL BE LOWER! THE FELLA IN MIRROR IS SO RIPPED AND SO PUMP FROM WITHIN AS IN FULL THAT....HE LOOK BIGGER,, FIRST THING YOU WILL HEAR FROM FELLAS WHO HAVENT SEEN YOU FOR A WHILE IS,,,HEY YOU GOT BIGGGGGGGER! YOU WILL SAY NO NO BUT THEY WILL BE YOU GOT BIGGER! WHY? BECAUSE YOU GOT LOWER BODYFAT AND MORE SEPERATION AND HIGHER LEAN MUSCLE! THATS WHY YOU TRULY GOT BIGGER,,

FOR FINAL MUTAITION OFCOURSE HGH AND INSULINA A MUST AT THE HIGHER THE DOSES THE BETTER THE MUTATITION WILL BE AS IN HEAVIER AND THAT IS THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN COMPETE NOW DAY WITH THE TOPS BECAUSE YOU CANT GO TO A COMPETITION WITH 250LB FELLAS WHEN YOU ARE 200...KNOW WHAT I MEAN?
legit trenbolona will result in the following ,, be sure you have legit,,

enormous strength ,, and i mean it ENORMOUS strength

imediate fat burning effect like eca but with out the high in the sky weak feeling eca give you in the long run ,, in other word no stringy and no stiffy feeling,, much beter than eca for fat burninng

immediate increase in lean muscle ,, first through hardening and densing of the physiqe you have ,,the fibers will get closer and then will start seperating due to the water going into the muscle and decreasing on the outside of the muscle between skin and muscle ,,

there will be few day confusion where you are not sure what what ,, after 7 days you will know you are a walking invinsible bodybuild,, you will need to start 10% not fat...if you start fat it will all take longer time as in 3-4 months...remember eveyrthing happen in bodybuild because we are already starting lean to some degree as in 10% zone

legit trenbolona ace will be golden yellowish ,, it can be either more yelowish or more golden depending on oxidation and other factors,,but the color is a combo between gold and yellow sometime more yellow sometime more gold but it will have the combo of golden yelow pee to it

legit trenbolona ace will make a fatter fella sweat much more than a lean fella,, lean fella will not sweat as much ,,

legit trenbolona ace will let you eat anything you like and get you from point a to point b ,, no matter how your diet is as long as enough calorie and protien and carb you will get shreded at the end process and reserve all muscle while increasing your lean muscle becaue when you lose fat and dont lose weight...or lose very little weight.....you increased your lean muscle,, it will be seen in the seperation of the muscle and the attachment of the skin to the muscle as in getting the muscle shape ,, skin and muscle become one,, veins will then from day 3 will be popping out more an dmore every single day to places you neevr seen them ,, you will have veins coming theough your body hair even if you are a chimpanzee you will see veins all over with full bodily hair,, you use veet on your body? you will be amazed how ripped you are,, wait with the veet few weeks or couple months so you get a big shock,, put tann on you and you are like a magazine fella in real life face to face ,,

legit trenbolona ace get female to take notice of you ,, suddenly females who would not touch bodybuild...will be attrackted,, if you have wife who dont give you sex or sex is minimal,, while using trenbolona you will see her approching you for sex and wanting to fuck you ,, like when you see a hot girl with perky tits...she will see you like the boy toys she and her friends were all gigling about back in highschool,, she will have sex with you much more and will intitiate it ,, lean fella that hold muscle and get to look ripped but maintain thickness get the most sex from females,, its not up to debate with me this is part of legt trenbolona facts

legit trenbolona will give you a cough spiiting saliva cough if you hit a vessle ,, it will come fast and go within 3-5 min whiel you be coughin and spitting saliva all over the toilet cursing everyone around you actualy you wont be able to talk but after 3 min you will lol it is nothing and common trenbolona hit the vessle reaction made by the tren easter which is ace

legit trenbolona will cause you to itch and get flaky skin ,, some do some dont ,, most do but again its only when hit vessle ...thre actual flaky skin will be for serious bodybuildthat been on tren for long time and on hormones in general for long time

legit trenbolona wil give you insomina and at time paranoia that everyone is after you ,, sometime even bad dreams,, its part of it ,, legit trenbolona is a known insomina causer and you need to know how to control it and sleep even with insomnia ,, you can get tired and regulate your sleep or change work schedule or fit it in no problam ,, whern bodybuild want somethign bodybuild get it

legit trenbolona is the only drug that can not be replaced in bodybuild ,, especialy competetive bodybuild,, but in bodybuild in general you will not be able to get in condition and eat like normal fella UNLESS you are on legit trenbolona ,, even if yuo eat clean legit trenbolona condition will not be there unless you are on trenbolona ,, you will lose lean muscle when not on trenbolona no matter what product you are on ,, even if you use gh and insulina if yuo are not on trenbolona you will lose lean muscle that will not be noticable to begin with but later on it will when tru to get to same condition and see you cant because you missing those 5-7 lb of quality muscle,,
Title: Re: Bible studies, and how gh15 helped me progress
Post by: Swlabr on March 14, 2012, 03:56:15 PM
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already dicusedd how strong this drug is,,it pretty much make fellas with balonie genetic into bodybuilders... that should tell you how strong this drug is...
the doses: ofcourse you can see trenbolona work as low as 50mg every 2 day inject...you surly can,,you will look very good ...yet! with trenbolona unlike! with testosterona...the higher the dose ...the nastier and freakier the bodybuild become..and i mean it! ,, the bodybuild will see changes that he will sacrifice his social life for ...sad but true,,not theat bodybuild have social life but this is another story lol ,,
testosterona...the higher the dose...the bloofier you look unless you have gh running in system...with trenbolona ace...the higher you use the BETTER THE LARGER THE MORE CONDITIONED AND THE MORE S E P E R A T E D you look
while testosterona puff your skin up,, trenbolona ace thin is down ! it eliminate the puffy skin and thus say bye bye to the bloofy look ,,it get the skin to a shrink wraped mode with time! it depends ofcourse on your begginign bodyfat level,, it will be diff for fella like tbom and fella like no one,,tbom it will take months....no one it will take 10 days lol actualy from the first day it will be going visualy its because the body is already in state of anabolizm and low bodyfat with no one and with tbom he has muscle but it is covered with water and fat and in the doubles....never the less tbom will be able to look like competetive bodybuild ...it will only take him another 2 months lol sometime 4-5 if body is realy stubbern and the fella love his ummm i dont know love his goolash and the higher caloric shit foods...still trenbolona wil cut through the fat like knife cut through butter and with months will bring tbom to the single digit and seperated like a competetive bodybuild...not top but competetive to begin with
now,,
the actual changes from tren ace and what to expect:
i will talk about the typical 12-13% bodybuild not the single digit ones becaue the single digit ones are already know everything there is to know,, they may not be profesionals but they been in it for so long they can speak it in their dreams ,, so this is for 12-13% bodyfat rathr than 8%..
this are the changes you will see,,
week 1,, you will feel pumped but insted of bloofy feel of testosterona pump you will have the feeling of pump from the inside of the muscle while the more self knowing individuals who recognize changes fast will notice their face ...yes their face taking a diff look ,,they will be the only ones who notice it ,, it is something you notice personaly since it is only the beggining and no one else that see you will notice ,,they will think you are crazy if you tell them anythign so keep it to yourself,, face iwll start getting the high boxer type of look,,hard to explain ,, it is week one so nothing visual yet aside from pump ...tremendous strength and i mean tremendous! big diff than what you were before ,,and when you will expect to see your midsection bloat...and say something is not right here the belly got to be bloated...you will take your shirt up and notice that no! it is actualy looking tighter!,, yes yes this is week 1! since you are 12% you wont see much more ,,obliqes will start being noticed well and the girl will comliment that this is the area of the body she like the most right before she sucking your cock,, she wil comment on it because she wil be able to see it on you : ),, remember this is after 3-7 injects of trenbolona ace into blood at 100mg every inject
week 2-3
this is when progress being made and you start seeing your body transforms ,, still nothing like a pro bodybuild...nothing like top amatuer....but! you will start noticing that the pecs and delts are seperating,, they reduce fat yet remain full and start getting seperated as in water go into the muscle insted of outside of muscle,, this is a stage where you will still have water between skin and muscle so it wont be to an impressive level seperation wize,,but! the seperation will occure and in this 2-3 weeks try not to be crazy and dont take pictures every day ,, take them few times a weeek not every day you will go nuts,, trenbolona changes are only daily for the single digit fellas and the 8% and under,,so for you since you started 12% and now you are about 10-11.. try to not take many pictures every day because at this bodyfat levels pictures can be deciving ...one time you look great one time you look decent etc ,, not good comparisons,, at the end of this stage you will sit at high single digit sub 10%,, 9-10%
week 4-8...
this is when you will start getting comliments not only on how BIG YOU LOOK but you will start hearing the word LEAN ,, you will walk around and you will hear alot of wondering of how you got so lean ,, no one will say skinny ,, no one will say small ,, they will all use the word LEAN ,, lean this lean that,, still not thickly lean ,, the thickly lean comes little after down the road,, in this stage you get the YOU LOOK LEAN MAN comments,, this is when veins start becoming very visible in places you are not used to while sitting watching tv you will see veins on back of legs on forarms on inside of forarms on arms on traps on chest,, everywhere again it depend on how prone to veins you are but you will see the veins you have enhanced! ,,you will also get more serpeated and it will be to a level that when you take pictures you finaly will decide to keep them and wil feel very bad to delete them because they will look very good
week 9 and on ...
this is what seperate the REAL bodybuild from the wanna be ,, this is where the true mutation coming into play and you really start looking like magazine fella,, it is when you dont need to flex to see the seperated muscle in all its glory ,, it is when you stand and get compliments all over about how YOU ARE BOTH THICK AND LEAN aka YOU GET INTO A ZONE CALLED RIPPED AND THEN A BETTER ZONE CALLED SHREDDED,, those zones are again happeingn for you only after 2-3-4 of constant trenbolona usage because....you were 12-13% to begin with ,, and you had to build the trenbolona ace into blood and work that fat off with out cardio and with out losing even minimal power or muscle,, you also wanted to live normal life and eat pretty normal so this is why it take 2-3-4 months sometimes even 6 months,,
in any case,, at the end of this stage you are a walking bodybuilder that is ready for stage ,, looking 4 weeks out on a regular basis ,, you pretty much look nicely thickly lean ...aka seperated to a very noticable level ,, you get a lot of compliments fellas dont mind complimenting but they need to see something worth complimenting to do so ...and in this stage you wil have it friends,,
this is important stage past the 8th week it is important because the bodybuild start becoming a serious bodybuild and advanced level bodybuild,, this is also a godo time to re introduce gh ....and do them together ,, and cycle testosterona the RIGHT way so you keep getting drier or maintain driness while growing and dont kill the seperations and the lines you created in thsoe 3 months...rememebr even little amount of water kill seperation ,, and testosterona is BIG BIG ENEMY OF SEPERATION BIG BIG BIG ENEMY YOU NEED TO KNOW HOW TO WORK IT AND YOU NEED HGH WITH IT IF YOU GO HIGH DOSES ,,
equipona wil be very good at this stage with the trenbolona ace and the gh ,,,tstosterona shoudl cycled in and out as in higher doses and then cruising ,, i much prefer you do it with propioneta or phnyl propioneta
now,, this is a program for the average GYM RAT ,, aka someone who want to get into advanced bodybuild,, this is not for already advanced bodybuild,, advanced bodybuild are always lean ,, they never see 10% even when you think they are 10% they are 8% ,, they just hold water and puff themselves up some with balonie they play with ,, rest assuree of that,, so this program is for fellas who start 12-13% even 14% and want to get down to competetive bodyfat,,which is 6% or lower
i wont talk of side effect since i alredy mentioned them in bible million times,, side effect from trenbolona ace = growth ! lean growth! ,, there are soem side effects that fellas have hard time with which i wrote about ,, some fellas cant deal with it ,, mainly mentally ,, but over all ,, trenbolona is HIGHLY HIGLY HIGHLY HIGHLY HIGHLY HIGHLY and then some more highly important to get the look you all desire

Wow. :o Want to gain an inch on arms? gh15 is quick to point out that will not happen by supersetting curls with cables bla bla bla. Here's how:

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many fellas ask reptedly whats secrets i can give to grow arm ,, they want philsulina arm philsulina arm,,

alright,, you ONLY HAVE PHILSULINA ARM IS YOU PUT IN IT DAMN SEO! same for jason arm ,, what i can help yo uwith is to get your arm to 19 inches! of quality!

gh15 is going to lay here a a specific program to gain those 1-2 inches you all want so much afgter you stuck at 17 inches on hormones,, remember we are talking quality 17 inches up to quality 18-19 inches...not balonie fatzos but quality as in SINGLE DIGIT BODYFAT


you first and formost start from SINGLE BODYFAT,, i want each one on this program to be in the singles,, no 12 no 13 thinking you are 9 no! i want you to start at 8% or under,, i dont care if you hold the niagra falls on you ...but the important thing is that you start 8% or under,, now! this is the routine i will specify ...it wont have any marvelous food lol nor will it have any marvelous training execersizes,,,what it wil have in it is HORMONES ,, so get book and pen and start writing,, or in generation nothingness language ...just copy and paste or put on face book ,, anything you want ASIDE FROM PUTTING IT ON DIFF BOARDINGS,, I DONT WANT THIS ON DIFF BOARDINGS!,,they will probbaly steal it but dont make it easy for them ...i dont want my pupils to put it on other boardings,, thank you

ok


you got down to 8% on hormones ofcourse,, so you have subsential size to your arm ,, 17 inch...

now how do you get up in inches? what is the big secret behind it,,

the big secret behind it is hidden in few vials

vial 1 = testosterona no ester also known as suspension ,,

vial 2 = dianabola vial ,, liquid INJECTABLE dianabola or tablets will do too...liquid will be better it wil make you able to pull it much longer in duration of intake and hunger will just go higher and higher

vial 3 human growth hormone

vial 4 = testosterona enantat

vial 5 = equipona

vial 6 = trenbolona ace


i want you to get down to 8% or under with the hgh and trenbolona! then! i want you to take those out! do not use them anymore and insted introduce the following to your blood


testosterona no ester = 50mg a day

dianabola = 25 mg a day

testosterona enantato = 300-600mg every 2-3 day

equipona = 300mg every 2 days

again no! no! hgh and no trenbolona ace,,

now do this for a week you will start seeing your arms growing it wil be in incremenetds of 1/4 of an inch quality growth ,, you can increase tne to 100 mg  a day  as in 50mg 2 times a day and dianabola to 50mg a day as in 25 mg 2 times a day speced evenly

go this way until your body lose some of its sculpting illusion ,, it wont be fast if you are low bodyfat ,,infact you will look more conditioned when gh is out because water will go down ....so you will look more condition but less 3 dimentional,,WAIT WITH THE GH UNTIL the mirror or camera tells you you lose some of the sclpting illusion ...you will see it mainly in the delts...

then! go back on hgh add it....your arms will already be bigger and will be ready for sculpting exlosion and polished tighening done by the gh ....again add the gh only! when you got extra size on the arms! only after....it should be about 2 months break from gh betwen 4 week and 8 week break can be a little less with some

when you intriduce the hgh again you can also add insulina to start creating total mutatiton ...by this time your arms will already have new size on them of about 1/2 an inch to an inch ...the hgh and insulina wil take it past 19 and maybe into the 20s depending ...over that it is usualy very high doses of hgh and insulina and ofcourse seo for 5'8 5'9 and 5'10

ther eis one thing that dont change and it is the testosterona enantato dose...it is alwys 300-600mg every 2 day ...either enantato or sustanona ...but you get the idea..canbe both 1 inject of each,, the rest always change

most important factor that will grow your arms in size will be the addition of testosterona no ester INTO THE BLOOD ALL AT ONCE...and dianabola in an injectable form preferably ,, tabs are ok too  but those 2 are must when you come off trenbolona and hgh...A MUST! testosterona enantato by itself will not make it happen ,, you need all the testosterona at once! into the blood all at once! with no ester attached,, and the dianabol is also into the blood all at once ,, no waiting,,

the above is garenteed extra size on arms,, quality size in a pretty short period of time,, about 2-3 month for extra 1/2 to an inch and 2 inch or over after 6-12 months when gh is reintroduced ,,

this is how you take 17 inch and make them 19 inch my friends,,,not special foods... not special training... no charlie 7 and not hurley 18 ,,

this is it

any question in regarding to this shoudl be put here in the tread not in pms ,, i dont have much time to red pms easy to read the questions here in regarding this


No balonie, straight to the core of it all.

But what if you're poor and can't afford this all? Well, gh15 is here for you again:

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this is the meat and potatos phase,, now i will go on starting writing everything you need to listen and follow,,

this is meant for bodybuilders! ,, this is not meant for 15 year old that just enter gymnasium 1 month ago,,

this is a phase 3 of bodybuilder for the poor,, i will bring bring you to the mountain ,, i will help you get to troy alvez type of physiqe! but! from then on you are on your own ,, you will need much more money or sponsor to get to what you see today at the top,, so i will bring you up to 220 6% but from then you are on your own friends,,

phase 1 and 2 are must follow ,, and follow directly as i wrote it there,,yes you can chnage fish type but over all follow directly as i wrote it


ingredients needed,,you will have to put some money investment but since you save on supplmenet you wil have this money,,

again this is a program to follow for the fella with the worst bodybuild genetic out there aka vince goodrum and bring him up to ron heris level,, so if you are better and most likley you are...you will end up looking at the level zoen of troy alvez minus the years of experience and muscle maturity


ingredients

testosterona propioneta 100mg/ml 2 vials

testosterona enantato 250mg/ml or 300mg/ml or 350mg/ml depending on your contact ofcourse and wether human grade or private chef 2 vials

trenbolona ace ,, this is HIGHLY IMPORTANT 100mg per cc  only ace! 2 vials

masterona  100mg per cc  2 vials

equipona 300mg per cc 2 vials

human growth hormone 1 kit 100iu only! **** ! AGAIN ONLY **** GH!

thats it ,, all you need you will need to buy it every single month so this will be an expense of about 500-600 dollaros first time around and then from third month! you will only need to put 300 dollaors a month ,, which is equal to your supplment sepdning,, this is the cheapest it can be to get to advance level bodybuild 300 dollaros every 4-8 weeks is the cheapest possible way to get there i cant get it any cheaper for you im sorry ,, most bodybuild spend 1000s in a matter of a 3 month period thousands of dollars! sometimes surpassing 10 k in a matter of 90 days
so this is not your case...you will need 500-600 for first 2 months and from then on 300 dolaros every month


alright,,

injection should be done every time before bed,,
i also want all injects to be done into the ass right and left cheeks ,, again this is your responsbility to be bodybuilder i write my own opinions and i discuss matters for enterntainment only...

i want you to start within PRIMING YOUR BODY with hgh ,, that mean you will work hgh into your body for 30-60days as a prime 4 iu a day ,, only 4 iu you hear that right just make sure you get **** hgh and no other gh! you want that gh because it is the purest one and you want to get the most out of your gh,, yes you can find other decent and good gh but **** gh never seem to dissapoint for years upon years going already close to 10 years

now,, i want 4 iu into DELTS 2 iu morning when wake up 2 iu night,, yes only this way  and just train ,, do it for 25 days along with equipona at 900mg 3 times a week monday wed friday 300 mg each time that is it! no testosterona yet,, at the end of this 25 days i want you to add trenbolona ace at 100 mg every second day! make sure it is LEGIT TRENBOLONA at 100mg every second day and continue with the second kit of gh for another 25 days at 4-5 iu a day 2.5 and 2.5 morning when wake up and night before sleep

now,, at the same time you add trenbolona ace i want you to add propioneta at 50mg! every 2nd to 3rd day depending on your own feeling since i cant see you you will decide but not every day! every second to third day,, 50 mg!

when 50 day mark arrive i want you to take the enantato ,,and do a 3 time weekly injectiong of 300mg each time mon wed and friday,, can also be tuesday thursday and saturday all up to your choice and how you do things and if you are lazy some fellas like to take their sweet time thats how bodybuild do at times,, this will give you 900-1000mg of testosterona enantato a week when you are done 50-60 days of hgh prime ,, with the enantato i want you to INCREASE the trenbolona to 100 mg every day  5 times a week ,, it is NOT easy ! trenbolona ace is very very tricky it works on your brain it change your personality even if you think it doesnt it does ,, it is the strongest personality change hormone out there but it is also a must to achieve any of today condition ,,you need to be careful with it if you can not tolerate every day 100mg you will have to continue every second day 100 mg ,, but if you can then 100mg a day will be better for this phase

so ,, enantato 900-1000 mg a week ...trenbolna ace 100 mg a day or if really cant 100 mg every 2 days,, and! NO ANTI ESTROGENS! i want you to introduce masterona if you have problem with high estrogen after 50 days! you should not have any problem but if you do introduce masterona at 50mg every 2 days! the masterona i stil dont want in only if you suffer from high levels of estrrogen which you shoudl not not even when you get on 1000 mg testosterona yuo still should be ok with estrogen ,,

now the masterona itself i want you to introduce after 3 weeks on enantato at 1000 mg ,,

so what we have until now,,

we have day 51 start,, you go on enantato 900-1000 mg a week,, you still keep equipona at 900 mg ,, you have trenbolona ace at 100 mg every second day and after another 3 weeks you add in masterona at 50mg every second day ,, you can! combine injections,, it is all oil shoudl be no problem but it is still usualy 3 injects a week atleast no matter how you do it ,, you want it at 3 day injection a week so its ok ,,

now you will notice that by day 80-90 from your start you pretty much suddenly look like one of the best bodybuilder to ever touch foot in your gymnasium ,, this is in 3 months! you still wont be quality of top bodybuilder due to maturity and experience and time ,, and also due to lack of products notice you are poor! there are some things you can not do like bodybuilder with more money,, but you can defenitely have better quality physiqe than them

so....

day 80-90 you REINTRODUCE HGH to the blood,, do it on day 90 ,, this time you LEAVE testosterona enantato in may even increase it to 1200mg a week dependign on personal choice,, you leave equipona in still 900mg and you take trenbolona ace out! insted of trenbolona ace you bring in anadrola preferebly solution and do 100-150mg every day ,, again preferably injectable!  you can still do orals too,, rememer you take out the trenbolona ace! you do gh again for 30 days this time you do it at 6-8 iu a day only for 30 days! if you can afford 60 it will be better for you but 30 will be ok too ,,you can even inject it every second day! at 6-8 iu a day then a day of no hgh then 8 iu a day then day of no hgh etc etc

you will then approach 120 days which is 4 months since you started and i will want you to start reducing the testosterona doses again ,, i will make phase 4 in next few days to discuss the next steps,,

again the nex phase will involve the possibility of diuretic application and a quick discussion about insulina and why im against it ,, it will also involve what needed to get to the 220 + at cometition condition because all those fellas are addicted to insulina and gh ,, you just dont step on stage 5'7 220 shredded if you are not hgh and insulina addict,, so we will talk abotu it too but again you are poor so i bring you up to 220 6% from then you will either have to find a good job or will have to have help or do something to get the ability to proceed,, most good bodybuilder at 200lb wipe floor with heavier bodybuilders...especialy if in light heavy classes ,, so its not that bad to get up to 200 210 220 6% my friends,, and this is the way you do it ,,

few things,,

you never give up! no matter what you see in the mirror after 11 days ,, you dont just say oh im tired of this,, you will see a lot in the mirror after lefit gh been in your blood for 11 days but! 11 days is not enough time to create body compsition change it takes some more time,, this is 120 days here that you should start ,, then will go to phase 4 which will polish the physiqe and bring it to competition level ,, not stage ready but pretty much 2 weeks out ,, i dont think yuo need it for every day life....but in general if you can get to look 200+ 6% on every day life at 5'10 or under no one will mistaken you for anything other than bodybuilder and you will be the best in your city in most cases,,

good luck to all ,,

phase 4 will come in few days

sealed bible index,,


gh15 approved
Title: Re: Bible studies, and how gh15 helped me progress
Post by: goomba420 on March 14, 2012, 03:58:12 PM
hasnt he promised phase 4 for a couple months now?  ::)
Title: Re: Bible studies, and how gh15 helped me progress
Post by: the trainer on March 14, 2012, 03:58:35 PM
dont you worry I am gh15 replacement and i am here to help you i will turn you into big guy.
Title: Re: Bible studies, and how gh15 helped me progress
Post by: Metabolic on March 14, 2012, 03:58:47 PM
 ;)
Title: Re: Bible studies, and how gh15 helped me progress
Post by: Swlabr on March 14, 2012, 03:58:57 PM
His advice took me from 180 lbs @ 8% to 210 lbs @ 7% with infinitely less effort and mental agony. Only yesterday I squatted 440 for 2 reps after 405 for 6. Numbers I could only have dreamed of a year ago, and without gh15 I would still be counting raisins and milligrams of testosterone.

Thank you, gh15, for everything you've helped me with.

P.S. For those who call him a source, trust me, he isn't. I've forgotten the number of times I begged him to refer me to a good source, and every single time I asked I got ignored.
Title: Re: Bible studies, and how gh15 helped me progress
Post by: Swlabr on March 14, 2012, 04:00:55 PM
hasnt he promised phase 4 for a couple months now?  ::)

It won't be on getbig, it will be on the gh15 website that will be released in theatres near you very soon. ;)
Title: Re: Bible studies, and how gh15 helped me progress
Post by: Jaime on March 14, 2012, 04:03:38 PM
That first bit of advice flies in the face of every scientific study i have seen.

Did you ever stop to think that most normal people don't want to constantly be on drugs?

It's not needed and it's where natural base and genetics come in. You train like a pussy and aren't meant to carry muscle you will lose size.

Everything else sounds sensible for the most part, nothing ground breaking but decent info.
Title: Re: Bible studies, and how gh15 helped me progress
Post by: Swlabr on March 14, 2012, 04:04:45 PM
Nothing ground breaking? Okay, Jaime, how about you tell me what you would tell a guy who has thick skin and wants to do something about it.
Title: Re: Bible studies, and how gh15 helped me progress
Post by: purenaturalstrength on March 14, 2012, 04:09:31 PM
i can relate with this beyond obsession crap

i sometimes sit in the locker room at work calculating percentages pondering about how much weight to lift next time i work out
Title: Re: Bible studies, and how gh15 helped me progress
Post by: makaveli25 on March 14, 2012, 04:10:53 PM
Great thread man. I think we have all picked up some really good tips over the years from gh15. I never fuck with pct anymore what a waste of time. The whole 12 weeks test 30mg of dbol haha I did that for years never got me anywhere. You guys are lucky you have this information at such a young age. You think any of those dickhead vets on the steroid boards actually practice what they preach. NOPE!
Title: Re: Bible studies, and how gh15 helped me progress
Post by: Swlabr on March 14, 2012, 04:13:30 PM
i can relate with this beyond obsession crap

i sometimes sit in the locker room at work calculating percentages pondering about how much weight to lift next time i work out

I had a spreadsheet, lol. I squatted 3 times/week, wrecked my back in the process. I would literally be depressed for days if I didn't hit the numbers I had on my spreadsheet. It's really not a good way to spend life.

Nowadays I shoot tren 2 hours PWO (2 hours is the magic spot, I think), go in and lift some heavy fucking weights even while dieting.
Title: Re: Bible studies, and how gh15 helped me progress
Post by: Jaime on March 14, 2012, 04:19:45 PM
Nothing ground breaking? Okay, Jaime, how about you tell me what you would tell a guy who has thick skin and wants to do something about it.


I don't know i haven't got thick skin, it's not something i have ever looked in to or talked about much.

Most people mistake water retention for skin thickness.

Most of that info is legit but it's a lot of words and tangents based around simple concepts.

Tren=lean quality tight muscle.

Test=thickness/bloofyness potential.

GH=Unlocking full potentiality of hormones.

Shit like that. It's all basic info put in to romantic form for kids. Mutate,shrink wrapped, tight ,full, pussy's wet lol All just buzz words.

The first segment is completely fucking flawed.


Other than that if it helps people it's cool.


Title: Re: Bible studies, and how gh15 helped me progress
Post by: dustin on March 14, 2012, 04:21:09 PM
Awesome, man! Thanks for hunting down all those great posts. gh15 is becoming a lot bigger in Canada and fellas are following his advices and saving money and time by not dicking around. gh15 cuts to the chase without misleading people. It is basically all drugs, but there are important small details which compound and help you to progress exponentially versus doing shit completely wrong (aka magazine advices).
Title: Re: Bible studies, and how gh15 helped me progress
Post by: purenaturalstrength on March 14, 2012, 04:24:42 PM
I had a spreadsheet, lol. I squatted 3 times/week, wrecked my back in the process. I would literally be depressed for days if I didn't hit the numbers I had on my spreadsheet. It's really not a good way to spend life.

Nowadays I shoot tren 2 hours PWO (2 hours is the magic spot, I think), go in and lift some heavy fucking weights even while dieting.
i still squat 3 times a week

anything less and i'm losing strength it sucks i hate it but i cant agree with less strength


i never bought into the spreadsheets those things are wildly unrealistic

Title: Re: Bible studies, and how gh15 helped me progress
Post by: dj181 on March 14, 2012, 04:27:03 PM
P.S. For those who call him a source, trust me, he isn't. I've forgotten the number of times I begged him to refer me to a good source, and every single time I asked I got ignored.

maybe he just didn't want to implicate himself
Title: Re: Bible studies, and how gh15 helped me progress
Post by: Jaime on March 14, 2012, 04:30:40 PM
maybe he just didn't want to implicate himself

He basically says buy as much gear as possible and avoid everything else and mentions sources.

Genetics don't matter.

Training doesn't matter.

Nutrition doesn't matter.

He never talks about moderate doses.

Would not surprise me if the people running the account were getting money from sources for exposure.

Clear agenda.
Title: Re: Bible studies, and how gh15 helped me progress
Post by: da_vinci on March 14, 2012, 04:31:00 PM
Lol at these who say "its nothing new".. Yeah, right.. I can just imagine how mad must be some fellas who take money for the "drug advice" and "training", when all this stuff is here for everyone to learn.
Title: Re: Bible studies, and how gh15 helped me progress
Post by: da_vinci on March 14, 2012, 04:33:33 PM
He basically says buy as much gear as possible and avoid everything else and mentions sources.

Genetics don't matter.

Training doesn't matter.

Nutrition doesn't matter.

He never talks about moderate doses.

Would not surprise me if the people running the account were getting money from sources for exposure.

Clear agenda.

I know a fella which get outlifted by novice lifters, who has been in the game for about 25years, tho' is jacked and big. He still doesn't know much about training or eating, bt you know what? Dude has been on hormones almost non-stop for a few decades. Simple as that. Yet he sells protein powders and makes "training programs" for naive fellas too lol..
Title: Re: Bible studies, and how gh15 helped me progress
Post by: Jaime on March 14, 2012, 04:35:30 PM
I know a fella which get outlifted by novice lifters, who has been in the game for about 25years, tho' is jacked and big. He still doesn't know much about training or eating, bt you know what? Dude has been on hormones almost non-stop for a few decades. Simple as that. Yet he sells protein powders and makes "training programs" for naive fellas too lol..


I didn't say there weren't other kunts out their with agenda's.

The whole industry is based on tricking money out of people.
Title: Re: Bible studies, and how gh15 helped me progress
Post by: dustin on March 14, 2012, 04:45:32 PM

I didn't say there weren't other kunts out their with agenda's.

The whole industry is based on tricking money out of people.

This sentence IS the entire industry. Fucking sickening.

There are always snakes in the grass but you wouldn't expect an ENTIRE industry to be completely full, 100% full, of fucking deceptive, cock sucking snakes. :(
Title: Re: Bible studies, and how gh15 helped me progress
Post by: g101 on March 14, 2012, 09:01:45 PM
This sentence IS the entire industry. Fucking sickening.

There are always snakes in the grass but you wouldn't expect an ENTIRE industry to be completely full, 100% full, of fucking deceptive, cock sucking snakes. :(

disgusting cult feeding off of young gullible bodybuilders

this needs to end
Title: Re: Bible studies, and how gh15 helped me progress
Post by: chaos on March 14, 2012, 09:05:16 PM
His advice took me from 180 lbs @ 8% to 210 lbs @ 7% with infinitely less effort and mental agony. Only yesterday I squatted 440 for 2 reps after 405 for 6. Numbers I could only have dreamed of a year ago, and without gh15 I would still be counting raisins and milligrams of testosterone.

Thank you, gh15, for everything you've helped me with.

P.S. For those who call him a source, trust me, he isn't. I've forgotten the number of times I begged him to refer me to a good source, and every single time I asked I got ignored.
This all means jack shit unless you post before/after pics to back it up. :)
Title: Re: Bible studies, and how gh15 helped me progress
Post by: g101 on March 14, 2012, 09:07:06 PM
This all means jack shit unless you post before/after pics to back it up. :)

 ::)
Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: Ron on March 14, 2012, 09:33:52 PM

Like GH15 or not, he did help quite a few people into thinking about getting in shape, or did - whether or not is info was correct or not, it was always up to the person to view it as entertainment or positive role thinking.

Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: Schmoff on March 14, 2012, 09:40:01 PM
Like GH15 or not, he did help quite a few people into thinking about getting in shape, or did - whether or not is info was correct or not, it was always up to the person to view it as entertainment or positive role thinking.



 ;D
Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: sapp66 on March 14, 2012, 09:48:28 PM
 and this help and informative posts is why people want him back here...and also gotta love his humor as well  ;D
Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: OptimusPrime1980 on March 14, 2012, 09:54:18 PM
Like GH15 or not, he did help quite a few people into thinking about getting in shape, or did - whether or not is info was correct or not, it was always up to the person to view it as entertainment or positive role thinking.


x1000....
 ;)
Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: apply85 on March 14, 2012, 09:55:10 PM
Like GH15 or not, he did help quite a few people into thinking about getting in shape, or did - whether or not is info was correct or not, it was always up to the person to view it as entertainment or positive role thinking.



(http://cache.ohinternet.com/images/2/24/I_see_what_you_did_there_super.jpg)

lol, shine on, you crazy diamond
Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: csnut18 on March 14, 2012, 10:06:48 PM
Like GH15 or not, he did help quite a few people into thinking about getting in shape, or did - whether or not is info was correct or not, it was always up to the person to view it as entertainment or positive role thinking.



He helped them for free. He brought free info here which needed to  be told but nobody who was capable of doing it, was willing to do it. He provided the info Evan Centopanni was supposed to have given, but wont do because he doesnt want someone competing against him next year. Gh15 is the best thing to have happened to this site and it's a travesty he is gone.
Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: illwill on March 14, 2012, 10:18:57 PM
Like GH15 or not, he did help quite a few people into thinking about getting in shape, or did - whether or not is info was correct or not, it was always up to the person to view it as entertainment or positive role thinking.



Right on Ron!

Sure, everyone "knew" what it took to get pro size or at the least, in shape.  But gh15 itemized it and broke it down in layman terms.  Bodybuilding for Dummies!   Whoever he is couldn't matter less.  It's the inherent message and detail of it that matters most.
Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: illwill on March 14, 2012, 10:22:04 PM
I'm making this thread to show how gh15 helped me personally as a bodybuilder. When I first started reading the bible (first because I still read it -- I call it 'bible studies' nowadays), I was 180 lbs. I had b



Swlabr,  thanks for taking the time to do this.

How did you modify those dosage amounts he laid out to better match your beginning size. If you did at all...   Specially, the phase 3
Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: AlphaM on March 14, 2012, 10:30:41 PM
 :D

viva gh15 helped me a lot ! Agree with everything Swalbr stated.

Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: b-boy on March 14, 2012, 11:07:24 PM
Great thread swlabr!

I owe gh15 a lot for helping me truely understand this cult known as bodybuilding
Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: randy841 on March 14, 2012, 11:38:52 PM
Pure gold right here from GH15...

Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: randy841 on March 14, 2012, 11:41:41 PM
We can all find tidbits here and there from GH15

Good to see this all in one place Swlabr.



Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: Kwon_2 on March 14, 2012, 11:43:09 PM
Yes, Gh15 helped all of us.

Not just with bodybuilding, deep-tissue massage but also with english and grammar.

We have much to thank gh15 for.
Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: NeilGM on March 14, 2012, 11:49:37 PM
Like GH15 or not, he did help quite a few people into thinking about getting in shape, or did - whether or not is info was correct or not, it was always up to the person to view it as entertainment or positive role thinking.



Just out of interest Ron, many of GH15 related threads have been removed by yourself and other mods, ok some broke the rules but then one or two did not and they still where removed? Why?
Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: NeilGM on March 14, 2012, 11:51:04 PM
By the way his information has helped me allot to
Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: Swlabr on March 15, 2012, 01:33:24 AM


Swlabr,  thanks for taking the time to do this.

How did you modify those dosage amounts he laid out to better match your beginning size. If you did at all...   Specially, the phase 3

Honestly I used what he laid out with no problems whatsoever. 100 mg tren ace EOD isn't much, even for a beginner. I'd use his protocols, then lower/increase dosages as needed.
Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: Swlabr on March 15, 2012, 01:37:07 AM
Anyway, here are some more gh15 gems for those interested:


Regarding thick skin

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HGH into blood,, 5-8 iu a day

NO INSULINA! for now

TRENBOLONA ACE 100 MG A DAY,,

testosterona propioneta 100mg every THIRD day,,

THAT ! IS ! IT!

you do it for 3 months ...come back here after,, then sudeenly the word impressive will be on this fuckatrd vocabulary on every internet steroid boardings ,, half of them dont know what they talk about,,

tbomb already have the 3 dimentional going in delts,, he has most things going on the torse ....just covered with thick layer of skin ...water...and some fat ,, the fat will be gone ,, you can eat the same balonie try to keep it little cleaner...the water WONT be gone you want it there,, the skin will get thinner when bodyfat go down ,, and later on if you decide to go competition when water sheds out slowly ,, trenbolona will reduce water too in the body,, so over all you will get what you want,,

then when 6% go on testosterona in the 2 gram zone 1200mg-2000mg and equivalent dose of equipoise ,, gh doesnt have to be there i recomend it with insulina if you ever want to go blow up doll ,, but generally speaking gh dont have to be there at this stage for 2 months,,then go on it again for another 3 dimentional shock to physiqe...ONLY THEN YOU ADD INSULINA if needed ,, and you really dont need it unless you compete because its UGLY LOOK but on stage now day they want this ugly look ,, [/b]
Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: Swlabr on March 15, 2012, 01:38:06 AM
Regarding the fitness model look

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if your sole intention is to get lean ? an dlook lik emillion dolaros

this is what you need to do


take the hgh another 30-90 days... add in primobolana to what you do now...

in 90 days you take out EVERYTHING

what you stay on is

trenbolona acatato 200mg every 36 hours  on the clock
50-75mg testosterona phnyl propioneta  every 2-3 days
masterona added at 50-100mg every 2 day

you do this for about 2-5 weeks ....

look in thr mirror after...

you will see what you prayed for all your life,, magazine level physiqe ,,

inorder to actualy look like them to the t you will have to use diuretic but! i do not recomend it for...you dont go onto photoshot and dont make money from this look so...leave diuretic out

you wil be very happy with your 6% dry look,, you will be center of attention of everywhere you go ,, you will have girls practicaly to your feet waiting to fuck you ,, you will go to swiming pool and every fella and his whore wil stare ,, you will only hear completements of how fellas used to look like you 20 years ago or how fellas want to look like you now if they only had time to eat right lol you will have fellas walking from side to side like damn loonateeks for they dont understand how they take all the testosterona in the world and cant look even half as good and they weigh more than you lol,, you will be a walking king of your own city

this is how we do it friend when it come to fitness modeling,,

do not forget to use veet and to haev fake tan or real tan ,, both will enhance look dtamaticaly ,, your 3 dimentional will hold from the hgh for about 3-4 months past usage

your head wil look very lean thus will apear small on your body ,, the musles will look huge for they wil be super lean ,, every fella on insulina around you will feel like a fatzo and the hgh and insulina fellas that have it in the blood...also will feel second to you for ....the water cover the physiqe is alwys blurring the lines that you wil have

in bodybuild...when you can see lines clear = you win

you will be a winner if you foolow this

gh15 approved/bible index

Regarding T3

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effects = the best fat burning product on planet earth right there with ephedrine,,i would put it before ephedrine but the diff is t3 is merciless and ephedrine can be abused,,you will die/get sick but ephedrine can be abused,,t3 CANT
abusing t3,,iuncreasing doses to high ones if you dont have enough muscle mass for those doses and enough food around you,,will result in you losing fat and muscle at the same rate,, so doses for 200lb bodybuilder should be kept at25-75mcg 100mcg+ go for the bigger lifters and they better know how to use it right

what im trying to say in general is that if youre 210lb guy takin t3 at 200-300mcg a day,,you better sit in macdonalds for your 5 daily meals and order everything double,,there are people who do it and their excuse for them eating so much junk and staying so lean is stomack ulcers or problems from young age while in realiy they just overdose on t3 in addition to high metabolism to begin with in addition to lifting and looking athletic,,those are usually the people who look athletic and lean with veins sticking everywhere while eating junk all day none stop,,its a way to look decent but its not a way to be a bodybuilder

safety level is high if you know what you are doing,,takin 900mcg at one dose will result in problems for anyone,,its common used product and i yet to hear anyone having problem with using t3
Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: Swlabr on March 15, 2012, 01:39:07 AM
Regarding lean mass steroids

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another thing to remember,, the products that truly increase lean muscle and diameter of lean muscle are:

trenbolona ace!

tne!

anadrola!

equipona!

nandrolona!



those  are the main products for increase in lean muscle diameter! you need remember this!

when you start trenbolona ace,, within few hours not few days,, few hours...you feel the tightening effect and when looking at yourself you are thinking in terms of whats happening here...the skin tighten up on the muscle almost immediate hardening and drying effect to a lesser degree,,the muscle get the popping feeling from within ,, thats when bodyfat start going down and you feel like you can eat whatever...and you are right you can eat many things and it will give you a pass,, with hgh its much more linient but also with trenbolona ace

something in the physiqe start looking diff within hours on intake of your first 100 mg of legit trenbolona ace,, it all get the 3 dimention going ,, the nasty factor come into play especialy if you were before on hgh as a prime ,, you will tightening of the physiqe and nasty polsiehd look with out losing even 1/10 of an inch on any mesurments and infact you can grow those mesurments if testosterona is in the right doses and equipona is in the right doses with the trenbolona ace,,

add in hgh later on and you REALLY got to pack on the calories otherwize you will just lose bodyfta too fast and wont grow freaky,, thats why i recomend to change products and nto do hgh and trenbolona together at all times,,

the usage of hgh and trenbolona same time really gives you the ability to eat shit ton of calories and lose fat ,, it does,,

Regarding Anadrol

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ofcourse,, more anadrola you use the betrr you look IF on hgh in  high dose,, anadrola is prep drug ,, the fatzos who get fat on it are fat to begin with ,, in bodybuild if you are in the single anadola only make you look beter,, one of the main main culprit of good profesional is the integration of anadrola

if you use 500mg anadrola you beter be high on the lean muscle as in heavy weight and heavy lean weight,,i believe in building anadrola into blood ,, start lower go higher,,but rest assure...when you see sculpted bodybuild 3 dimentioanl its not only from hgh ..it is the anadrola in high enough dose that create the illusion of layer over layer of legit muscle....ofcourse it is not legt sine it is hgh muscle but the anadorla push it all inside out and create the so call phenomenon described by gymasium rats as....layers upon layer of muscle ,, muscle on top of muscle look

if you think 1 tablet of anadrola will take you to where today top level bodyuild sit you are severly mistaken ,, no mater how much gh you are on they are on just as much btu take 6 tablets a day of anadorllla while you play with your 1 tab lol


bodybuild = drugs


gh15 approved
Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: Swlabr on March 15, 2012, 01:40:05 AM
Regarding Equipoise

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what legit equipona easterles or not gives you is....

the thickness from the sides of the delts ,,the rounder delts ,,the leaner thinner skin with veins going higher onto the skin ,, it gives you the lean look while growing you from the inside out ,, tight waist while blowing up on the delts...but! while blwing up your delt from each side guess what...due to you getting more polished lookin...the chest start to get the squary thin skin look ...full yet squary ,, hard to explain but bodybuild know what im talkin about,, it blow up the abs but keep it tight basically it grow you lean from the inside out,, the skin attach itself and wrap itself around the muscle...muscle is pumped lean and skin is thin!

it has to be legit equipona and i dont see it around ,, the one im using now is legit!,,it is overdosed and it just looks GREEEEN the solution look greeenish yellowsh you can tell it is over dosed + it smell like complete shit leather like..might be from the guiacol but it is overdosed ...you feel it very fast may be its esterless but it sure works and works fast,,with hgh and testosterona it take you into a different levek,, problem is it seem nto to be around since this are vials from 2008... this is very different very much like old mexicano vet eq just better and over dosed

Regarding HGH effects

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i am sorry ,, but if you are over 32 year old ,, and you want to be anything remotely close to competetive....and you are not on hgh you can FORGET ABOUT IT,, have you ever didi most muscular jason cutler style with gh in blood and with out?

NOTICE FRIENDS,, WHEN YOU DO IT WITH OUT GH IN BLOOD AND OFCOURSE WINDOW OF OPPORTUNITY IS OVER IM NOT GOING TO DISCUSS AGAIN WHAT WINDOW OF OPPORTUNITY IS ITS IN BIBLE,, BUT IF YOU DO IT WITH OUT GH...YOU WILL HAVE A VERY 2 DIMENTIONAL PHYSIQE IF KEEPING ANY SIZE TO WRITE HOME ABOUT,, EVEN IF SHREDDED AND SMALL YOU WILL HAVE 2 DIMENTIONAL PHYSIQE WERE....YOUR DELTS WILL BE VERY MUCH 2 DIMENTIONAL...MAY BE BIG BUT 2 DIMENTIONAL

when do this pose with hgh in blood!! ,, notice what happen ...practice this post of the levrone most mauscular and jason most muscular...be on hgh see what happen ...suddenly you see the REAR DELT WHILE STANDING FRONT MOST MUSCULAR...YOU SEE THE REAR DELT CLIMBING FROM BEHIND LIKE A LITTLE ALIEN OUT OF YOUR BODY ....SUDDENLY YOU SEE THE DELTS CUPPED TO THE 10 DEGREE AND WHEN YOU LIFT YOUR ARM UP AFTER DOING SOME HAMMER YOU DONT SEE YOUR UGLY STICKY BONE THAT IS IS POINTY IN THIS POSITION WHAT YOU SEE IS VERY ROUND MUSCLE WRAPPING A BONE AND DELT THAT BECOME GIGANTIC!,, SAME FOR OTHER MUSCLE GROUPS FRIENDS,, you see everything 3 dimentional,, while the waist that groink cant get rid offff....he has tight waist now but it still look blocky ...that waist....suddenly get ripped drier suckin in phenomenon while leaving the obliqes to hang out and give the thickness illusion ,,


it is a whollllle diff ball game human growth hormone,, i can smell a fella from 1 km away and tell you what kind of gh he is on and how much of this gh he was using and how much he still left over in the kit he is using!,,

the idea of bodybuild beyond age 30-32 with out gh is redicoulous...unless you ok with competing 165lb 6% 5'10 ..then you can do ok with no gh..problem is you wont get to look 165lb 6% the way you were at 28....when you are 34...you just wont!

32 and on everythign go down ,,what WHAT give you the extra 10 year of bodybuild extra 10-20 years past age 30 in high competetive bodybuild...is! the hgh

and! hgh is improving anyone not only profesionals,, it is a very important factor in being a good fitness model ,, huge diff between the bulk ripped look trenbolona creates and the polished tight blown in the right places small head large body that hgh + trenbolona ace gives

bible index
Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: Swlabr on March 15, 2012, 01:40:58 AM
How to get shredded

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how to get shredded,,

trenbolona ace for 3 months 100-150mg every second day
hgh for 3 months 5-6iu a day
testosterona propioneta for 3 months 50-75mg every second or third day
masterona for 3 months 50mg every second day along with the trenbolona

talk to me after,,

now how to get shredded and look like a modern bodybuild?

moment those 3 months pass and you sit 6-7% ....you increase doses of testosterona...take out trenbolona and add in anadrola at 150mg a day

within 6 month of total time from day you started you will be able to walk around and being worshipped by every one in your local town city and bodybuild community

this is how it is friends...this is your diet...

now what to eat? you mean yum yum? umm depends if you can afford sushi all day and eggwhotes id go with it ,, id never cut down carbs id keep them as normal as possible ,, and when i add the anadrola when im 6-7 % id also go into heavier foods like jamaican and german more often ,, in general the diet wont matter


6% is what i gave you above!

4%? you wil need to tune up diet and clean it up

gh15 approved

How to get girls

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at the age you talk about you can get a girl via few ways,,

1. be very muscular as in conditioned muscle ,, doesnt have ot be very big..170 lb true 6%...dry...5'9 will get her ,, no matr how old you are by the way ,,can be even 32 she will go with you at 18 if you are what i describe here,,yes americana girls are like that

2. money...if she know you have money,, never spend a dime on her ofcourse but....if the girl know you have money as in from rich family she will be there,, americano girls!

3. love,,well for that she need to love you and be inlove with you ,, doesnt happen at all at age 18 ,, they think they are inlove they are not,,

over all i suggest you to fuck other girl and move on ,, the fact you want to be with her in aplatonic way and go to movei with her means even worse....means you have nothing sexual for this girl ,, you have to want to FUCK THE FLYING DAY LIGHT OUT OF A GIRL and be extremly attratcd to her to end up with her ,, otherwize you will end up like brother and sister ,, you will love her but wont be inlove,,

she is americano right? she is far righgt? she doesnt think about you not even for a damn second,, most of them are very very very very and then some very flat as in they dont think deep,, they dont thikn deep at all especialy the 20 year old of now days,, they dont have the ability to think complicate ,,

at her age ,, she may end up going to a club and listen to me carefuly ,, at her age she may end up going to a club with her mama and her mama brest friend,, meet the bouncer there and go to his place and tell him ...you can do anyhting to be beside fucking me ,, thats how weird that age is and those type of girls are,, kind of not whores but want attention if you knoe what i mean ,, since from reading fast what you wrote i understand she is not exactly a whore...so the not exactly whores fall in the catagory of....do anything you want ot me in yuor place beside penetrating my pussy ...mainly making out sessions and blow jobs at times,,this is their way of getting to be out there yet not whores in their head ...

forget about her,, if she was 31....then id say maybe ,, buit her age not a chance unless she is INLOVE with you and keep in conctant contact with you from her will!

jew fellas stress too much over things like that,, it kills their life and muscle get their estrogen level up ,, you will have another layer of fat or water on midsection just from her,,girls are worse than sodium manipulations for a bodybuild,,

you hav eto remember! the girl who want you WILL MAKE SURE MAKE SURE! THAT YOU KNOW IT AND THAT SHE IS THERE SO NO ONE ELSE CAN GET YOU ! ,, SHE WILL DRIVE FOR YOU ,, AND DO HER HALF AND MANY TIMES WAY MORE THAN HALF ,, SHE WILL BE UP FOR YOUR SHIT ,, SHE WILL LAUGH AT YOUR NOT FUNNY JOKES,, SHE WILL PAY HER SHARE OF DINNERS ,, SHE WILL WORRY ABOUT YOU ,, YOU WILL SEE IT AND FEEL IT ,, THERE WILL BE NO ONE ELSE ,, SHE WONT EVEN GET ON HER TEXT WHILE WITH YOU ,, EVERYTHING WIL BE

YOU YOU YOU AND THEN SOME MORE YOU

get over that girl will never work you just going to fuck up your bodybuilding and end up still NOT BEING WITH HER!
Title: Re: Bible studies, and how gh15 helped me progress
Post by: chaos on March 15, 2012, 05:26:30 AM
::)
What is the point there ???
Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: tupiniskin on March 15, 2012, 06:05:11 AM
Good thread right there.

The bible helped me A LOT ! And I mean A LOT !
Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: makaveli25 on March 15, 2012, 06:25:16 AM
A lot of ungrateful bitches on this board lately. Gh15 was hilarious. All of them gems he dropped on us. He was the entertainment on here.
Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: BIG_STI on March 15, 2012, 06:52:41 AM
How the hell does anyone take 500mg of Anadrol a day for any period of time. Sounds like a death sentence or at least some serious health problems.
Title: Re: Bible studies, and how gh15 helped me progress
Post by: DK II on March 15, 2012, 07:09:38 AM
;)

Well why don't you just fuck off then?
Title: Re: Bible studies, and how gh15 helped me progress
Post by: Schmoe Buster on March 15, 2012, 07:18:45 AM
Well why don't you just fuck off then?


X2
Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: OptimusPrime1980 on March 15, 2012, 07:39:04 AM
How the hell does anyone take 500mg of Anadrol a day for any period of time. Sounds like a death sentence or at least some serious health problems.
why??
medical dosage is somewhere at 1-3 mg's per pound of bodyweight if i remember correctly.....
so a 200 pound male would use 100 to 300 mg a day... for anemia....
imagine a 280 pound bb....  ;D ;D ;D ;D
a lot of the liver toxicity about c17 alk. steroids are waaaaaaay blown out of proportions...
Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: Swlabr on March 15, 2012, 07:54:10 AM
gh15 never said you should be on orals forever because they do affect your liver, but your liver regenerates once you go off. It's why orals are cycled, unlike certain injectables.
Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: NeilGM on March 15, 2012, 08:19:35 AM
gh15 never said you should be on orals forever because they do affect your liver, but your liver regenerates once you go off. It's why orals are cycled, unlike certain injectables.

As long as you don't drink and take narcotics etc.
Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: Swlabr on March 15, 2012, 08:25:59 AM
How to look like Evan Centopani

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ok,, due to popular demand befor website even start i will lay here the road to look like even ,, infact hsi look is HIGHLY achivable highly! one of the more average genetic that if have the legit compounds and serious about bodybuild you will be able to look like this,,that doesnt mean he is not good bodybuild! he is ,, that measn that bodybuild = all hormoned and that you can also be good bodybuild

first let analyze even centoini over all look

real age is 30?29? look like 37-38,, corect? correct! this is poiting to long duration of specific hormones in blood hgh bring the age back a bit so age look may change during the years depending if before competition when hgh is take out or no,, over all age look abotu 37typical white fella 5-10 year old older looking than legit age

now,, jaw line ,, even centofini jaw line is where yo ucan truly see the magic of gh ,, legit gh! in high doses that body respond well to!

this are the 2 general over all look analyzation you should first be able to notice on the bodybuild that use a lot of gh for quite some time and specific aas that age you abit



now to the actual hormones the bodybuild is on and what it take to build this exact physiqe in the basic hormoen department,,

again! key is to start when he did young! not waitr to age 33 and then start but start young so have time to build on it


ok,,


this is the drugs that will get you to even centorini physiqe more or less


good dose of legit hgh in the 15-30 iu gh every single day EVERY SINGLE DAY ,, no not 5 iu no not 3 iu and no not 7 iu ,, 15-30 iu  of LEGIT GH

legit primobolana in the 1000s of mgs with equipona eithr both or one in the grams!

trenbolona in the 1 gram zone can be les depending on how much primobolana and masterona you put in ,, but it is in the 1 gram zone

testosterona a dose much lower than you think,, it is cycled depending on the doses of hgh curently in blood and the duration he been on that hgh ,,

I N S U L I N A ,, this is used with every meal with most in his case it is little less and doses are not as high ,, he go formy type of lok more rather than the balonei you see now day so insulina is payed attention to much more,,


ofcourse the actual lifting doesnt mean balonie ,, its nice to lift heavy but it doesnt realy mater when on so much hormones and legit ones as long as stimulate muscle you get to wher eyou need to b eweither 30 lb or 600 lb ,, with 300 lb you wil get there iwh no injury,, i myself liked and like to lift heavy most serious bodybuild do but in times we hav eto nto do so for the hormones prevent us from it due to reduction of water between skin and muscle and tendoins becomign weaker while muscle beocme stronger unlike the typical power lifter where TENDOINS ARE VERY STRONG and muscle is less strong


so there youi have it ,,

this is how you look like ven centofini in general ,, this is how you get to  260lb in condition in 5'11

so what we have here pupils lets see


2 gram of primobolana and equipona more or less

500-2000 mg of testosterona dependent on hgh and his lean weight

15-30iu of gh

insulina i wont mention doses for now until website is on


other exotic compound in the 1 gram range,,


so we haev 3-4 grams aas over all 

15-30 iu gh

timed right ,, and go hand in hand with as mention gh and insulina whic are the keys! the absolit keys for the look he poses of thee quality muscle pop half way turtle belly into position when you use less insulina btu still use it in good doses,, its inbetween stage it is the 90s stage ,,end of the 90s stage


gh15 approved/bible index
Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: illwill on March 15, 2012, 08:44:00 AM
This is like a GH15 Greatest Hits album.  Keep em coming!

To make it easy, Ron should allow the bible to be downloaded with one button! If that's possible with the forum coding....

Imagine if the GH15 account was deleted :/
Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: wes on March 15, 2012, 09:07:40 AM
This is like a GH15 Greatest Hits album.  Keep em coming!

To make it easy, Ron should allow the bible to be downloaded with one button! If that's possible with the forum coding....

Imagine if the GH15 account was deleted :/
Heaven forbid!  ;D
Title: gh15=HELPED ME DEVELOP MY PHYSIQUE
Post by: TooMuchMuscle4U on March 15, 2012, 09:11:42 AM
I STARTED TO TAKE HIS ADVICE AND ITTOOK MY FYSIQUE TO NEW HIEGHTS

I TAKE A DE

TRENBOLONA,,

MASTERONA,,

PROPIONATA

AND GH-ONA

IN 2 YEARS

I

WILL

HAVE TOP NATIONAL FYSIQUE

STAY TUNED
Title: Re: gh15=HELPED ME DEVELOP MY PHYSIQUE
Post by: goomba420 on March 15, 2012, 09:38:44 AM
PUPUILS ,, DO NOT LISTEN TO THIS FELLA FOR HE IS CONVICTED FELON AND PRIME LIAR  ,,

he use trenbolona and gh ? lol that is dandy and all but what he dont tell you ,, because he is lying filt ,, is that  you need  R E E S E S penut butter ice cream ,, make sure it is brayer brand ,,

anyting else is just not th esame ...well actually  hgh is beter lol ,, REAL ! hgh !  that is the key ,, not no bunk balonie,, it has to be real hgh  ,,

but ice cram is absolit necesity too if you want full mutation ,,



gh15 approved
Title: Re: gh15=HELPED ME DEVELOP MY PHYSIQUE
Post by: goomba420 on March 15, 2012, 09:45:23 AM
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gh15 approved
Title: Re: gh15=HELPED ME DEVELOP MY PHYSIQUE
Post by: greeneyes on March 15, 2012, 09:51:28 AM
gh15 = snbaT = félla = hélPed us tO make fùN of headàch anD mr wOng hOng aliaS king konG
Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: j3di3 on March 15, 2012, 10:19:26 AM
too bad gh never spoke about cycles for people who neither want to stay on forever nor want to be over 200lb.
i want the fitness/or ever less level look, i dont want to be on drugs all the time as health is important to me, what should i do then? if i were 90kg with 10% bf at 1.80 i would be more than happy.
Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: bigmc on March 15, 2012, 10:20:59 AM
too bad gh never spoke about cycles for people who neither want to stay on forever nor want to be over 200lb.
i want the fitness/or ever less level look, i dont want to be on drugs all the time as health is important to me, what should i do then? if i were 90kg with 10% bf at 1.80 i would be more than happy.

have you tried training hard and eating clean

you lazy cu nt
Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: illwill on March 15, 2012, 10:34:28 AM
Heaven forbid!  ;D

lol

WES=GH15
Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: littleguns on March 15, 2012, 11:29:10 AM
2 things re the video..

Beautiful Man with Glasses - is this Nasser?

He absolutely hates supplements...wonder if this is because he never got a sponsor. Was Nasser ever sponsored but a supplement company?
Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: wes on March 15, 2012, 11:30:22 AM
lol

WES=GH15
No,I`m Alex23 !!  ;D
Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: tommywishbone on March 15, 2012, 11:36:36 AM
How the hell does anyone take 500mg of Anadrol a day for any period of time. Sounds like a death sentence or at least some serious health problems.

What? Who possibly takes 500 mg's of Anadrol per day? That's totally absurd.

Please tell me he didn't say that.
Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: Jaime on March 15, 2012, 11:53:45 AM
What? Who possibly takes 500 mg's of Anadrol per day? That's totally absurd.

Please tell me that he didn't say that.

Dead bodybuilders, that's who.
Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: j3di3 on March 15, 2012, 12:14:02 PM
have you tried training hard and eating clean

you lazy cu nt

ive been wasting my time training hard and eating clean for 10 years, i bet you are pat banayas friend claiming its possible to achive naturally  ::)
Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: bigmc on March 15, 2012, 12:16:52 PM
ive been wasting my time training hard and eating clean for 10 years, i bet you are pat banayas friend claiming its possible to achive naturally  ::)

no you need steroids

im just giving you shit skippy
Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: g101 on March 15, 2012, 12:17:39 PM
What? Who possibly takes 500 mg's of Anadrol per day? That's totally absurd.

Please tell me he didn't say that.

why??
medical dosage is somewhere at 1-3 mg's per pound of bodyweight if i remember correctly.....
so a 200 pound male would use 100 to 300 mg a day... for anemia....
imagine a 280 pound bb....  ;D ;D ;D ;D
a lot of the liver toxicity about c17 alk. steroids are waaaaaaay blown out of proportions...

so a 200 pound male would use 100 to 300 mg a day... for anemia....

BUMP !!!!!!

HERE'S YOUR ANSWER GUYS.
Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: Jaime on March 15, 2012, 12:18:06 PM
ive been wasting my time training hard and eating clean for 10 years, i bet you are pat banayas friend claiming its possible to achive naturally  ::)


Well you have to be real about your genetics bro.
Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: j3di3 on March 15, 2012, 12:19:59 PM

Well you have to be real about your genetics bro.

representing the skinny fat genetics right here  8)
Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: Jaime on March 15, 2012, 12:21:24 PM
representing the skinny fat genetics right here  8)


Hop on a bit of gear then by all means.
Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: g101 on March 15, 2012, 12:21:41 PM
http://www.meda.us/products/pi/Anadrol-50_PI.pdf

DOSAGE AND ADMINISTRATION

The recommended daily dose in children and adults is 1-5 mg/kg of body weight per day. The usual effective dose is 1-2 mg/kg/day but
higher doses may be required, and the dose should be individualized. Response is not often immediate, and a minimum trial of three to
six months should be given. Following remission, some patients may be maintained without the drug; others may be maintained on an
established lower daily dosage. A continued maintenance dose is usually necessary in patients with congenital aplastic anemia.

so for a 200pound male you can go up to 450mg of anadrol....
Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: OptimusPrime1980 on March 15, 2012, 02:06:40 PM

Hop on a bit of gear then by all means.
lol.. i am starting to like you!  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: OptimusPrime1980 on March 15, 2012, 02:17:31 PM
http://www.meda.us/products/pi/Anadrol-50_PI.pdf

DOSAGE AND ADMINISTRATION

The recommended daily dose in children and adults is 1-5 mg/kg of body weight per day. The usual effective dose is 1-2 mg/kg/day but
higher doses may be required, and the dose should be individualized. Response is not often immediate, and a minimum trial of three to
six months should be given. Following remission, some patients may be maintained without the drug; others may be maintained on an
established lower daily dosage. A continued maintenance dose is usually necessary in patients with congenital aplastic anemia.

so for a 200pound male you can go up to 450mg of anadrol....
well look y look!! i was not so far from the truth... thanx bro!!
i knew it was along these lines... could not remember the exact numbers though...
imo oxy does not do a damn thing at 50 mg.. at least it didn't for me... lol!
started to get fun from about 100 mg's....

so now think logical, would a doctor prescribe these dosages to humans if it would melt away your liver ?????
nope..... and i would like to add, that these protocols lasted at a minimum of like 3 months.....
this whole you can only be on dbol or oxy for 8 weeks max is BULLSHIT!!!!
ask ARNOLD lol....
i have been on dbol for like 3 months , at 100 mg a day..... result was not a pretty site, but i was big and felt like superman! hehehehehe! but seriously bloofy!!  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
but i was fine.... did not turn yellow.... lol...
Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: ChevChelios on March 15, 2012, 02:20:01 PM
damn,you should had turned green  :P  :D
Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: tommywishbone on March 15, 2012, 02:21:08 PM
"DOSAGE AND ADMINISTRATION

The recommended daily dose in children and adults is 1-5 mg/kg of body weight per day. The usual effective dose is 1-2 mg/kg/day but
higher doses may be required, and the dose should be individualized. Response is not often immediate, and a minimum trial of three to
six months should be given. Following remission, some patients may be maintained without the drug; others may be maintained on an
established lower daily dosage. A continued maintenance dose is usually necessary in patients with congenital aplastic anemia.

so for a 200pound male you can go up to 450mg of anadrol.... "

  
 

I love it. Someone, you, gh, your little sister, found this literature, literature describing the doses for a patient with: "anemias caused by deficient red cell production. Acquired aplastic anemia, congenital aplastic anemia, myelofibrosis and the hypoplastic anemias due to the administration of myelotoxic drugs often respond", and you somehow thought it would also apply to bodybuilders. No bodybuilder has ever, ever taken Anadrol at those doses and they never will.  
Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: OptimusPrime1980 on March 15, 2012, 02:23:00 PM
damn,you should had turned green  :P  :D
lol!  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: Jaime on March 15, 2012, 02:24:35 PM
well look y look!! i was not so far from the truth... thanx bro!!
i knew it was along these lines... could not remember the exact numbers though...
imo oxy does not do a damn thing at 50 mg.. at least it didn't for me... lol!
started to get fun from about 100 mg's....

so now think logical, would a doctor prescribe these dosages to humans if it would melt away your liver ?????
nope..... and i would like to add, that these protocols lasted at a minimum of like 3 months.....
this whole you can only be on dbol or oxy for 8 weeks max is BULLSHIT!!!!
ask ARNOLD lol....
i have been on dbol for like 3 months , at 100 mg a day..... result was not a pretty site, but i was big and felt like superman! hehehehehe! but seriously bloofy!!  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
but i was fine.... did not turn yellow.... lol...



Nobody in the 70's ever came off. Well maybe a few guys but they were the exception.

Some guy ran 100 mg of Var for a year and his results were normal, high end of normal but he was still walking around and shit. Breathing that sort of stuff, which is always good.

Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: OptimusPrime1980 on March 15, 2012, 02:29:09 PM
"DOSAGE AND ADMINISTRATION

The recommended daily dose in children and adults is 1-5 mg/kg of body weight per day. The usual effective dose is 1-2 mg/kg/day but
higher doses may be required, and the dose should be individualized. Response is not often immediate, and a minimum trial of three to
six months should be given. Following remission, some patients may be maintained without the drug; others may be maintained on an
established lower daily dosage. A continued maintenance dose is usually necessary in patients with congenital aplastic anemia.

so for a 200pound male you can go up to 450mg of anadrol.... "

 
 

I love it. Someone, you, gh, your little sister, found this literature, literature describing the doses for a patient with: "anemias caused by deficient red cell production. Acquired aplastic anemia, congenital aplastic anemia, myelofibrosis and the hypoplastic anemias due to the administration of myelotoxic drugs often respond", and you somehow though it would also apply to bodybuilders. No bodybuilder has ever, ever taken Anadrol at those doses and they never will.  
bro, you sure about that????
anapolon 50 mg's....
now how much is 6 times 50??? yes 300....
now how much is 8 times 50?? indeed 400
seen it done by bb.... they were big , tall , heavy dudes.... also seen it A LOT in strongmen athletes...
you have no clue....
go and stick your head back into the sand..... ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: OptimusPrime1980 on March 15, 2012, 02:32:49 PM

Nobody in the 70's ever came off. Well maybe a few guys but they were the exception.

Some guy ran 100 mg of Var for a year and his results were normal, high end of normal but he was still walking around and shit. Breathing that sort of stuff, which is always good.


lol! you are a funny dude!!
but also very right....
i have talkes to gh15.... and you are off the gimmick list....  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
we don't always agree, but you're a cool cat....
and very funny! i like people who are funny and positive....
a rare asset here on getbig.....
Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: Jaime on March 15, 2012, 02:44:24 PM
lol! you are a funny dude!!
but also very right....
i have talkes to gh15.... and you are off the gimmick list....  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
we don't always agree, but you're a cool cat....
and very funny! i like people who are funny and positive....
a rare asset here on getbig.....

Thanks broseph. ;)

I think Apply took me off his list the other day, we had a pm session, get him to show you them lol. I don't think he is such a sissy pants anymore, i sort of quite like him now, i wouldn't hesitate to kill him should he owe me money or some such, but i had a strange childhood.

I just randomly state my opinion on any given issue. No agenda.

Todos são loucos, mas quem pode analisar seus delírios é chamado de filósofo.  ;D
Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: tommywishbone on March 15, 2012, 02:57:02 PM
bro, you sure about that????
anapolon 50 mg's....
now how much is 6 times 50??? yes 300....
now how much is 8 times 50?? indeed 400
seen it done by bb.... they were big , tall , heavy dudes.... also seen it A LOT in strongmen athletes...
you have no clue....
go and stick your head back into the sand..... ;D ;D ;D

He didn't say 300 mg's or 400 mg's, he said 500 mg's daily.

Please name one, a single one who took those dosages. Either you're lying or they lied to you. And name those professional strongmen that you train with and know well enough to discuss their drug usage.

500 mg's of Anadrol daily, that gets the laughing cat.
Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: tupiniskin on March 15, 2012, 03:03:26 PM
Which the point to lie saying that you take a helluva of steroids  ??? Make no sense to me.
Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: flinstones1 on March 15, 2012, 03:20:06 PM
My personal belief is that gh15 is sent here by god. I'm very serious, I've survived death twice since he has been with me here. Yesterday I fell 20 feet off a latter I should of died but I end up with a fucked up shoulder nothing hardly, few months ago been hit by a car on my bike LITERALLY minutes after I logged off getbig and sent gh15 a pm pulling out of a parking lot. Gh15 was watching over me  he is the fallen angel IMO
Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: tbombz on March 15, 2012, 03:22:04 PM
"DOSAGE AND ADMINISTRATION

The recommended daily dose in children and adults is 1-5 mg/kg of body weight per day. The usual effective dose is 1-2 mg/kg/day but
higher doses may be required, and the dose should be individualized. Response is not often immediate, and a minimum trial of three to
six months should be given. Following remission, some patients may be maintained without the drug; others may be maintained on an
established lower daily dosage. A continued maintenance dose is usually necessary in patients with congenital aplastic anemia.

so for a 200pound male you can go up to 450mg of anadrol.... "

  
 

I love it. Someone, you, gh, your little sister, found this literature, literature describing the doses for a patient with: "anemias caused by deficient red cell production. Acquired aplastic anemia, congenital aplastic anemia, myelofibrosis and the hypoplastic anemias due to the administration of myelotoxic drugs often respond", and you somehow thought it would also apply to bodybuilders. No bodybuilder has ever, ever taken Anadrol at those doses and they never will.  

 LOL  ;D

Title: Re: Bible studies, and how gh15 helped me progress
Post by: Zé galinha on March 15, 2012, 04:02:15 PM
::)

 ::) ;D
this make me remember latest gh15 post on gb...
"bodybuild...your cult friends lol

noen of them achievd anything but they ALL served time!"
Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: chess315 on March 15, 2012, 04:05:56 PM
lol

WES=GH15
no but really wouldnt mind seein wes thoughts on dosages and cycles. He should run some drug threads
Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: OptimusPrime1980 on March 15, 2012, 04:07:54 PM
He didn't say 300 mg's or 400 mg's, he said 500 mg's daily.

Please name one, a single one who took those dosages. Either you're lying or they lied to you. And name those professional strongmen that you train with and know well enough to discuss their drug usage.

500 mg's of Anadrol daily, that gets the laughing cat.
400 - 500... tomato, tomaaato.....
i will not call names... why?? to make sure you believe me? lol... like i care...
i KNOW for a fact that these dosages are being used....
just like i knew for a fact that slin is used at dosages around 400 iu 's a day and sometimes even more!
how do you suppose i knew that??? because i saw it... that is why...
hell even little old me played around with 300 mg oxy.... you think a pro that weighs 300 pounds will not take 400 to 500 mg's?????? lol ok dude....  ::) ::) ::)

and strongmen on average use even more then bodybuilders... steroids that is.... hgh/insulin not so much....
because they use hgh pure for healing purpose... it's the steroids that give strenght... and HIGH doses!!!
6 to 8 anapolons a day and 3 sustanons a day are not uncommon....
not even mentioning the other stuff... lol!

you are being naive.... really.....


Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: g101 on March 15, 2012, 04:59:19 PM
400 - 500... tomato, tomaaato.....
i will not call names... why?? to make sure you believe me? lol... like i care...
i KNOW for a fact that these dosages are being used....
just like i knew for a fact that slin is used at dosages around 400 iu 's a day and sometimes even more!
how do you suppose i knew that??? because i saw it... that is why...
hell even little old me played around with 300 mg oxy.... you think a pro that weighs 300 pounds will not take 400 to 500 mg's?????? lol ok dude....  ::) ::) ::)

and strongmen on average use even more then bodybuilders... steroids that is.... hgh/insulin not so much....
because they use hgh pure for healing purpose... it's the steroids that give strenght... and HIGH doses!!!
6 to 8 anapolons a day and 3 sustanons a day are not uncommon....
not even mentioning the other stuff... lol!

you are being naive.... really.....




 8)
Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: BB on March 15, 2012, 05:27:28 PM
450mg Anadrol / Day???

I'd love to see the guy that could handle that.........

Most I've ever seen run is 200mg/day.


Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: BiGHer on March 15, 2012, 05:34:27 PM
"DOSAGE AND ADMINISTRATION

The recommended daily dose in children and adults is 1-5 mg/kg of body weight per day. The usual effective dose is 1-2 mg/kg/day but
higher doses may be required, and the dose should be individualized. Response is not often immediate, and a minimum trial of three to
six months should be given. Following remission, some patients may be maintained without the drug; others may be maintained on an
established lower daily dosage. A continued maintenance dose is usually necessary in patients with congenital aplastic anemia.

so for a 200pound male you can go up to 450mg of anadrol.... "

  
 

I love it. Someone, you, gh, your little sister, found this literature, literature describing the doses for a patient with: "anemias caused by deficient red cell production. Acquired aplastic anemia, congenital aplastic anemia, myelofibrosis and the hypoplastic anemias due to the administration of myelotoxic drugs often respond", and you somehow thought it would also apply to bodybuilders. No bodybuilder has ever, ever taken Anadrol at those doses and they never will.  

Tommy, I'm not gonna be a name dropper here about people in the industry I know and you can choose to take my word for it or not, but there are bodybuilders out there definitely taking 500 mgs of Anadrol per day... whether the cat is laughing or not, it's true.
Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: BiGHer on March 15, 2012, 05:39:42 PM
Great thread BTW Swlabr... lots of solid information here.  2 things I find happen with this information:

1) People get up in arms about how exagerated it is, but don't know from personal hands on experience.  By that I mean, they usually haven't said "Ya know what, the best way to know if it's true is to experiment and see for myself." - Funny thing is, the people who do try it, find out quickly the advice is solid.

2) Most people don't realize that gh15 makes it clear very oftent that the advice he gives is meant for people who want to go as far in bodybuilding as possible and when he's not talking about these people, he makes it clear as to who he is addressing.  I think a lot of people struggle to read gh15 properly.  (Then again, he kind of did that to himself in a way by basically creating his own way of speaking lol)
Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: tommywishbone on March 15, 2012, 06:16:48 PM
Tommy, I'm not gonna be a name dropper here about people in the industry I know and you can choose to take my word for it or not, but there are bodybuilders out there definitely taking 500 mgs of Anadrol per day... whether the cat is laughing or not, it's true.

OK, OK. . . I can always learn something.  I would really like to talk to those cats that are running 500 mg's daily of AD50. That is mind boggling. I'd love to hear their reasoning for those crazy numbers.
Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: OptimusPrime1980 on March 15, 2012, 07:21:50 PM
OK, OK. . . I can always learn something.  I would really like to talk to those cats that are running 500 mg's daily of AD50. That is mind boggling. I'd love to hear their reasoning for those crazy numbers.
reasoning??????????????
euhhmmmm to get as freaky as possible???
you have to understandd how a50 works...
when you are  fat ass.... your body doesn't handle aromatizing steroids the same way as when you are fairly lean...you will only hold water and get fat...
when lean there is a lot less estrogen/progesteron sides...
now when there is a decent amount of hgh in your blood , your body can handle even more steroids...
add oxy when lean = direct increase in volume.... keep dose normal.. 100/150 mg a day...
add oxy when lean and with hgh in system.... same increase in volume only even better, and you can handle way more.... pro's are usually on vey high doses of hgh... hence the 500 mg of a50... or bit less... or a bit more... lol...

don't ask me to back this up with scientific proof... this is hands on , frontline experience..... ;D ;D
Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: wes on March 15, 2012, 07:24:07 PM
I knew guys who were doing 200-300 a day and they had wicked headaches and severe nosebleeds.............h ad to get get off or lower the dose to survive the intense pain.
Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: tommywishbone on March 15, 2012, 07:29:25 PM
". . . you have to understand how AD50 works. . . "

I was taking Anadrol 50 in 1982. I know how Anadrol works.

Those 300-500mg's daily doses just seem completely unnecessary, but I try to live and learn.
Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: D.O.U.P on March 15, 2012, 08:22:40 PM
reasoning??????????????
euhhmmmm to get as freaky as possible???
you have to understandd how a50 works...
when you are  fat ass.... your body doesn't handle aromatizing steroids the same way as when you are fairly lean...you will only hold water and get fat...
when lean there is a lot less estrogen/progesteron sides...
now when there is a decent amount of hgh in your blood , your body can handle even more steroids...
add oxy when lean = direct increase in volume.... keep dose normal.. 100/150 mg a day...
add oxy when lean and with hgh in system.... same increase in volume only even better, and you can handle way more.... pro's are usually on vey high doses of hgh... hence the 500 mg of a50... or bit less... or a bit more... lol...

don't ask me to back this up with scientific proof... this is hands on , frontline experience..... ;D ;D

Yes.

I have seen this.

Saw a 35 year old 6 1 185 lean maybe 9%. Started eq, test and DECA (which as we all know is supposed to make ya hold water)

He now has AMAZING BUILD, 210 7% AND IS NOT HOLDING WATER.

Why?

He STARTED out lean BEFORE HE WENT ON ANABOLICS.
Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: OptimusPrime1980 on March 16, 2012, 05:13:11 AM
". . . you have to understand how AD50 works. . . "

I was taking Anadrol 50 in 1982. I know how Anadrol works.

Those 300-500mg's daily doses just seem completely unnecessary, but I try to live and learn.
bro,
just because you take something, doesn't mean you understand how something works....
you tried to be a wiseass with your smiling cat ... and failed ...  ;D
then a legit bodybuilder confirmed my post.... and you got all "well i like to learn" lolol......
i could be a wiseass now and post a pic of a dog with his tail between his legs.... ;)

a50 has 2 faces..... it can work wonders or it can make you a bloated mess.....
reasons why i have mentioned earlier...


Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: Jaime on March 16, 2012, 05:48:55 AM
Is irmão Optimus the good side of Gh15's fragmented psyche ??? :D
Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: dj181 on March 16, 2012, 05:56:08 AM
Is irmão Optimus the good side of Gh15's fragmented psyche ??? :D

he's a manifestation of his artistic side, with his poetic-style of writing
Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: OptimusPrime1980 on March 16, 2012, 04:52:57 PM
he's a manifestation of his artistic side, with his poetic-style of writing
lol you guys!!  ;D ;D ;D ;D

i am Optimus.... gh15 = god of hormones..... i am just an elf....
i am a fella that trains since i was 18.... i am 32 now....
not competed much, because i just did not see reason to after a few shows...
i have no drive to compete... as it does not make me money... lol.... why go thru all the trouble , and not get paid? however i love to train and be in shape and bigger then the average person...
also like i explained on several occaisons i have witnessed the truth of the cult very early in my life...
and decided to train just for me....
i am a big dude though....when cruising i am 106/107 kilos.... full force about 120.... at 6'2... always single digits.... sometimes a waterfountain though... yeah i like to eat...lol!!
i did study a lot on drugs... PED's, you know reading about it.... trying stuff.. on myself, and some of my bb friends....
i have prepped guys.... some regional, some international...it's kinda my hobby... i like that aspect of bb ... the chemicals...
HOWEVER!!!! i truly want bb to go back to the late 80's....
so BAN slin.... i hate slin... slin is what ruined bb..... slin and abuse of hgh....
hgh is wonderfull... but should not be abused.... 5-10 iu of legit, LEGIT!!! hgh is what athletes should use for longer periods...a blast once in a while can be usefull though....
take that dose of hgh.....go easy on test....
add good amounts of primo, eq, tren, masteron...(except stanozolol... that is crap!! for everybody... it's worthless steroid...)
that way you built great physiques...
not these abominations we see today!!
Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: oliveiraugo on March 16, 2012, 04:59:51 PM
lol you guys!!  ;D ;D ;D ;D

i am Optimus.... gh15 = god of hormones..... i am just an elf....
i am a fella that trains since i was 18.... i am 32 now....
not competed much, because i just did not see reason to after a few shows...
i have no drive to compete... as it does not make me money... lol.... why go thru all the trouble , and not get paid? however i love to train and be in shape and bigger then the average person...
also like i explained on several occaisons i have witnessed the truth of the cult very early in my life...
and decided to train just for me....
i am a big dude though....when cruising i am 106/107 kilos.... full force about 120.... at 6'2... always single digits.... sometimes a waterfountain though... yeah i like to eat...lol!!
i did study a lot on drugs... PED's, you know reading about it.... trying stuff.. on myself, and some of my bb friends....
i have prepped guys.... some regional, some international...it's kinda my hobby... i like that aspect of bb ... the chemicals...
HOWEVER!!!! i truly want bb to go back to the late 80's....
so BAN slin.... i hate slin... slin is what ruined bb..... slin and abuse of hgh....
hgh is wonderfull... but should not be abused.... 5-10 iu of legit, LEGIT!!! hgh is what athletes should use for longer periods...a blast once in a while can be usefull though....
take that dose of hgh.....go easy on test....
add good amounts of primo, eq, tren, masteron...(except stanozolol... that is crap!! for everybody... it's worthless steroid...)
that way you built great physiques...
not these abominations we see today!!



amen, brother!  8)
Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: sceagacros on March 16, 2012, 05:29:16 PM
Just an elf? JUST AN ELF ?!?! Hold you pointy eared little elf head high you are in the company of HAND PICKED cult icons like apply85 (I know apply who? LOL!). If all elfs were "regular" like this guy I would have no problem with them.  ;D
Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: Jaime on March 16, 2012, 05:35:25 PM
Right that's it Optimus, Dustin and Rearden have made me see the light.

I'm going to be an elf, either an agnostic one of an aetheist one.
Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: flinstones1 on March 16, 2012, 06:07:35 PM
reasoning??????????????
euhhmmmm to get as freaky as possible???
you have to understandd how a50 works...
when you are  fat ass.... your body doesn't handle aromatizing steroids the same way as when you are fairly lean...you will only hold water and get fat...
when lean there is a lot less estrogen/progesteron sides...
now when there is a decent amount of hgh in your blood , your body can handle even more steroids...
add oxy when lean = direct increase in volume.... keep dose normal.. 100/150 mg a day...
add oxy when lean and with hgh in system.... same increase in volume only even better, and you can handle way more.... pro's are usually on vey high doses of hgh... hence the 500 mg of a50... or bit less... or a bit more... lol...

don't ask me to back this up with scientific proof... this is hands on , frontline experience..... ;D ;D

impressive stuff bro. I use turkish anapolon and it's fucking magic.   100mg a day and by day 20 I'm in the mirror going what the fuck. Unforunately I can't eat for shit on it so it's counterproductive for me when bulking >:(
Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: OptimusPrime1980 on March 16, 2012, 07:38:04 PM
impressive stuff bro. I use turkish anapolon and it's fucking magic.   100mg a day and by day 20 I'm in the mirror going what the fuck. Unforunately I can't eat for shit on it so it's counterproductive for me when bulking >:(
lol... well know you know why so many pro's like to smoke weed... lol!!!
eq will solve the problem to...
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: Swlabr on March 17, 2012, 07:18:14 PM
Blowing up right

Quote
friends,,this is last time i anser pms in regard to way to blow up right,,blow up with lines,,im tired of this same reptetive questions,,i said it in bible million times,,this is last time i write it ,,this is writen in stone so no ifs no buts,,no other thing than follow i dont want to get this stupdi questions again ,,its nto stupid but i keep answering and you keep asking same damn thing,,we are not the retardation society here,,bodybuild are smart when it come to loving their body so use your head and look through bible,,in anyway here are rules

1. ALWAYS GET AS LEAN AS POSSIBLE! before you blow up you have to be lean ,,a lean fella will alwyas look million time better than bloofy fella,,a lean fella will also respond to hormones much better than bloofy person and he is alot closer distance to become big if start from lean point,,

2. lean = 9% and under

3. the product to get you to the 9% and under shoudl ONLY be testosterona,,trenbolona,,masterona and if over 25 gh,,no other product should be used until you arre under 9% and in reality under 7% because betwen 9 and 7 it is what we call the twilight zone for the bodybuilr where depending on how his day was that how lean he will look,,you only look LEAN LEAN when constant 7% that means lean and ripped in relax positon not only lean

4. when you get under 9% and then continue to the 7% inbetween the 9 ad 7 you shoudl play and cycle the testosterona,, what gh15 mean....when you finally get to 8% and you can see abs lines show and skin getign  the pop look of muscle  with not much fat under the skin ...only then take the tesosterona prop that you used with trenbolona and masterona and change it to enanthate.....then you go to do blast with 1-2 grams of legit testosterona enanthate so you get thicker while blowing up in the single digit zone  of 8%,, this step is important,,again no orals only change of ester and increase dose of test from the 350-700mg a week of prop to 1-2 grams a week of enanthate,, that will blow you up lean and push the muscle even further from within the skin and you will go from your 200-210-lb 8% up to 220lb 7-8%

5. remnember the trenbolona ace shoudl alwys be there at any time,,what gh15 mean by that is never off the trenbolona always on if you can every day no matter how you cycle the testosterona doses and esters,, that will make you continue shed fat and increase lean muscle while blowing up from within with higher doses of testosterona enanthate ,, 

5. the above step is basically to thicken a physiqe that is going into te TOO LEAN phase ,,too lean can give impression of too weak ,,inorder to eliminate it ,,no matter how much abs you have or how many lines showing it can still be confused with too weak especialy in reality ,,so...inorder to eliminate it and get is thicker but GOOD THICKNESS OF QUALITY we add the testosterona in the doses i mentioned into the blast 

6. when you get  to your desire weight and size with single digit body fat preferably around 8% ,,then you reduce testosterona again and change it to prop,,you use prop 350-700mg a week  every day injects while incresign trenbolona usage and increasing equipona and masterona into high drive,,you push them full steam while reducing  testosterona ,,you also increase gh in that time,,you will get leaner eve mroe into the 6% zone after couple months whilel losing minimal weight and losing ZERO SIZE ,,actually you wil increase size while losing weight or atleast maintain muscle size to its fulness,,

7. finaly when you are 6% ,,then you can take out testosterona completely for few weeks get dry so the lines are clearly visible and definition is at all time best ,,maybe 2-3 whiel maintianing high anabolics ,,and after that 2-3weeks ...blast with anadrol or dianabol and you will blow up  into new size with 6-7 % body fat ,

8. the increase of hgh to very hgih doses and insulin addition should only come after all those steps when body is primed and ready ,,dont do it like phil heath befor ready but do it when redy! do it the way kukelo did it ,,the right way,,

9.   the addition of diuretic is necasery if you want to see anatomy chart but if not competing you do not need to see 4-5 % and 6% will sufice     to get where you need to ...diuretic will let you rebound even better  but this is preferebly if competing

10. diet realy dont matter down to 6% as long as you keep some balance and dont sit and drink oil all day long,,but eat where ever you want ,,again keep high protien and cycle the carbs right if know your body ,,remembee flat doesnt mean muscless it means temporary condition ,,


but ! always always remember pupil ,,LEAN > BLOOFY  ,,your mission is to get lean and only then grow!! this is the only way to the magazine physiqe and the physiqe you see on stage that you wonder how they get it ,,this is THE ONLY WAY,,

good luck

gh15 approved
Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: L.L on March 17, 2012, 07:36:58 PM
a 32 y.o elf?/ the fuck , you didnt have enough playtime as a kid ,dude ;D
Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: Aussie Duffman on March 17, 2012, 07:43:13 PM
fuck of back to mehiho wetback
Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: purenaturalstrength on March 17, 2012, 07:50:13 PM
i was just in a bar and some anorexic kid was asking me about supplements

i said supplements dont work

either use steroids or nothing at all

at least steroids work, with real science behind them


he said but steroids are bad

i said yes they are but drugs are also bad and yet you do them

he said yes you are right

Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: Swlabr on March 17, 2012, 07:51:50 PM
i was just in a bar and some anorexic kid was asking me about supplements

i said supplements dont work

either use steroids or nothing at all

at least steroids work, with real science behind them


he said but steroids are bad

i said yes they are but drugs are also bad and yet you do them

he said yes you are right



(http://www3.picturepush.com/photo/a/6443321/480/Others/interdasting.jpg?v0)
Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: purenaturalstrength on March 17, 2012, 07:55:08 PM
(http://www3.picturepush.com/photo/a/6443321/480/Others/interdasting.jpg?v0)
i wonder if he is going to steroid now

his arms really looked like anorexic

i'm not exagerating

they were smaller than those of a girl with a healthy (pretty lean) girl
Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: Swlabr on March 17, 2012, 07:57:11 PM
i wonder if he is going to steroid now

his arms really looked like anorexic

i'm not exagerating

they were smaller than those of a girl with a healthy (pretty lean) girl

200 kg squat for 2 after 180 kg for 6... you mad?
Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: purenaturalstrength on March 17, 2012, 07:59:38 PM
200 kg squat for 2 after 180 kg for 6... you mad?

very amazing

but i think i can achieve this one day since i do 5x170

squat is cool but in the end it's all about bench press big chest arms and so...

right?


Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: Swlabr on March 17, 2012, 08:00:47 PM
very amazing

but i think i can achieve this one day since i do 5x170

squat is cool but in the end it's all about bench press big chest arms and so...

right?




If you follow gh15's advice you'll be doing 5x270.

think about it








think about it some more
Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: purenaturalstrength on March 17, 2012, 08:05:15 PM
If you follow gh15's advice you'll be doing 5x270.

think about it








think about it some more

i think about it all the fucking time

it's making me crazy as you can see from irrational posting all the time

it's great and horrible at the same time

great results horrible crash after u stop

great muscles horrible acceleration of genetic defects like hairloss or cancers

growth of the hands and feet and head

i mean really


awesome and horrible things all together

and after all is done

only the horrible things remain


.......................
Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: Swlabr on March 17, 2012, 08:05:44 PM
Regarding strength

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no need for trenbolona when you look for strength and have tne and halotestin at hand,,

halo is the strongest drug when it comes to strength to ever been  created

tne just gets it into high drive

combo of both gets you very very strong but .....bloofy

there are powerlift who use trenbolona ace all over the place,, the ones who look like bodybuilder lol,, but over all the big fat powerlifters they love their tne and halo or tne and anadrola ,, those are their combos

gh15 approved

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testosteorn ano ester ....by itself! with some anadrola/dianabola...or if you add some halotetin and trenbolona in one combo ort another...make you so strong ,,,that ofcourse you wont see it in muscle size lol it  just strength that fellas have to stop and just come to ask how you do it,, they stand with a strange look on their face want to knock their head into the wall ,, some of them like to watch it because they never seen such a thing before..


the 190-200lb bodybuild on testosterona no ester will be able to shoulder press 5 plates of 45 pouns each side of a hammer for 10 times ! again 190-200lb bodybuilder!,,ofcourse pound for pound they are the strongest fella in the world..and this is by the way part of the compounds the nortom fella takes..that scambag liar is on them

gh15 approved 

Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: Swlabr on March 17, 2012, 08:13:47 PM
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the protocoll for being a sucesful powerlifter goes through the kitchen and ofcourse lots of drugs,, lots of food is there!,,bodyfat doesnt matter persay ,,preferably in the 10-15% but can be higher,,

most sucesful powerlifter are strong to begin with even when natural ,,they have very strong tendoins and bones,,they wil put on the hammer shoulders 4 plates each side when completey natural and do 10-20 times no problem,,they will have 4 plates each side of the hammer an dpull down 10-20 times no problem ...as natural

when it come to drug intake,,

anapolona ,,halotestin ,,trenbolona and testosterona NO EASTER aka suspension either in oil or water... are PRIME PRIME PRIME DRUGS  for powerlifters,,they always load on them pre competitions since the drugs get you very strong VERY FAST!,, turinabol is nto used as much anymore due to much better drugs ,,

the main key with powerlifters is you want a quick power burst,,and you learn how to do it very fast and very effective,,the drugs i mentioned do just that ,,

when you take the combination of testosterona no easter and halotestin ....within 1 hour of intake you can walk through walls,,striaght out ,,if you are experienced bodybuild/powerlift you can go through wall and break records in that same session you do that day ,, within few days you really increase strength to a significant level ,,and in times to very impressive levels,,EXAMPLE: you did 2 plates each side of hammer delts..  after few dyas on tne and halotestin IF LEGIT ,,you will have 4 plates most likley 5 plates each side of that same hammer for the exact same number of reps  you did with 2 each side...

the combinations of tne halotestin anapolona and trenbolona ace...creates what we call now day the new BODYBUILD POWERLIFTER,,THOSE ARE THE ONES WHO LOOK LIKE BODYBUILDER BUT HAVE THE POWER OF A POWERLIFTER,,THEY ARE BOTH IN ONE PERSON ,,THEY USUALY DO THE STRONGEST MAN IN THE WORLD COMPETITIONS AND YOU CAN SEE THEM THERE DOING GREAT LIFTS,, MARIUS IS ONE BUT THERE ARE MANY,,

ofcourse like everything with bodybuild,,also with powerlift everything is dose dependent and has to be legit,,

gh15 approved
Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: L.L on March 17, 2012, 08:21:29 PM
fuck of back to mehiho wetback

lol @ wetback, ? do you know where Malaga is , u stupid australian aka land of criminals?
Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: Swlabr on March 17, 2012, 08:23:48 PM
Reading the bible just makes me want to inject 2 cc tren ace straight into my glute. ;D
Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: Aussie Duffman on March 18, 2012, 04:55:24 AM
lol @ wetback, ? do you know where Malaga is , u stupid australian aka land of criminals?
yep just of roe highway along alexander drive ;)
Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: OptimusPrime1980 on March 18, 2012, 10:47:43 AM
a 32 y.o elf?/ the fuck , you didnt have enough playtime as a kid ,dude ;D

i have explained this before....
i have a trauma.... i was not allowed to play the part as ELF in my highschool play....
so i am really dealing with my trauma this way.... i get to be an elf....in fact i am wearing tights right now writing this post!

 ;D

Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: falco on March 18, 2012, 11:55:03 AM
(http://i670.photobucket.com/albums/vv67/FilipeFalcao/8898c085.jpg)
Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: L.L on March 18, 2012, 12:39:48 PM
yep just of roe highway along alexander drive ;)

lol..the cuban thing..im actually proud to be called one but in reality i am not...here is a little family background..my mother was born in cuba by accident ,both of her parents are full blown spaniards who had business in cuba before Castro came to power in 1959..they traveled back and forth from spain to cuba througt the years,,my grandma gave birth to my mother in cuba and they left the country right after castro took power..my mom was 3, never went back , no family in cuba...I was born in Malaga ,Spain to an italian father..,ps. you can keep calling me cuban all u want..it doesnt bother me at all , my best friends are cubans..i was raised and lived most of life among them...hard working and succesfull people..thanks to them they put Miami , south beach on the map. ;)
Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: Swlabr on March 18, 2012, 06:15:53 PM
Regarding abuse of drugs other than AAS/GH

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completly against recreational drugs and pain killers,,you abuse them? you will take years of your life...you abuse them with combo of hormones as in strain yhour body and take it in the gym to lift heavy weight in addtition to get prep for competition and that mean diuretic....you will not only shorten your life in general but you will most likley die or get very very sick during your bodybuild years..

what kill you are the following


pain killer combo with booz and with diuretics .....every single bodybuild or westler who gone through this combo for a good year or 2 had severe health problems from kidny fail to liver problems and caner if done for number of years continously and in times death,,

remember people dont tell you what they use! americano people are very secretive to what they use,,many many many americanos drink like crazy im talkin here females!! female americano can go through 6 bottle of beers like it wss water...and in times they will drink half the vodka bottle after...FEMALES! ,,now just imagine the americano men...that with pain killer and rec drugs on regular basis will shorten your life...and if not shorten your life get you sick...

we do not die from hormones,,,we die from the other shit that is very descrete ....peoel still dont get it

my opinion on partying? useless for bodybuilding,,chris never won o  because he partyed ,,he actualy had good chance if he didnt to get one sandow or atlest to consistantly place top 2-3 for years...he didnt because he ws partying and rec addict


BOOZ + PAIN KILLER + REC + HORMONES = EARLY DEATH OR DEATH OR LOSS OF IMPORTANT ORGANS AND FINISH OF BODYBUILD LIFE

hormones by themselves? you can do all day long wont matter actually your body wil be stronger and more invinsible ,,you wil be the healthiest fella around,,notice fellas on hormones hardly get sick ,,they dont,,10 yeasrs with  no fever or sickness ...but! theose are the fellas who are TRULY ONLY on hormones

gh15 approved
Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: Swlabr on March 18, 2012, 06:41:30 PM
Regarding equipoise

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what legit equipona easterles or not gives you is....

the thickness from the sides of the delts ,,the rounder delts ,,the leaner thinner skin with veins going higher onto the skin ,, it gives you the lean look while growing you from the inside out ,, tight waist while blowing up on the delts...but! while blwing up your delt from each side guess what...due to you getting more polished lookin...the chest start to get the squary thin skin look ...full yet squary ,, hard to explain but bodybuild know what im talkin about,, it blow up the abs but keep it tight basically it grow you lean from the inside out,, the skin attach itself and wrap itself around the muscle...muscle is pumped lean and skin is thin!

it has to be legit equipona and i dont see it around ,, the one im using now is legit!,,it is overdosed and it just looks GREEEEN the solution look greeenish yellowsh you can tell it is over dosed + it smell like complete shit leather like..might be from the guiacol but it is overdosed ...you feel it very fast may be its esterless but it sure works and works fast,,with hgh and testosterona it take you into a different levek,, problem is it seem nto to be around since this are vials from 2008... this is very different very much like old mexicano vet eq just better and over dosed
Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: Aussie Duffman on March 18, 2012, 07:49:05 PM
lol..the cuban thing..im actually proud to be called one but in reality i am not...here is a little family background..my mother was born in cuba by accident ,both of her parents are full blown spaniards who had business in cuba before Castro came to power in 1959..they traveled back and forth from spain to cuba througt the years,,my grandma gave birth to my mother in cuba and they left the country right after castro took power..my mom was 3, never went back , no family in cuba...I was born in Malaga ,Spain to an italian father..,ps. you can keep calling me cuban all u want..it doesnt bother me at all , my best friends are cubans..i was raised and lived most of life among them...hard working and succesfull people..thanks to them they put Miami , south beach on the map. ;)
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Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: The Grim Lifter on March 19, 2012, 04:05:43 AM
I couldn't be bothered reading the reply's, but you'd only been training a year. Anything will fucking work for a while still, and juice will just accelerate it. Should have stayed clean at least 18 more months but whatever.
Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: Swlabr on March 19, 2012, 05:36:06 AM
Regarding heavy lifting

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kamali squats a lot...heavy! ,,did it help him? see curent condition

thomas prince used to squat a lot....heavyyyyyy...did it ummm help him? see current condition lol

mikelango fransuia... squated a lottttttt....heavvvvy,, did it ummm help him? see current condition

list go onnnn and onnnnn and onnnnnn

now look at those fellas..

denis wolfe...doesnt squat much,, work hacks and even that he can find ways around it,, top 5 bodybuild in the world

dexxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxar jaxson,, doesnt squat much,,prefer hacks and even that he can find ways around it,, number 1 bodybuild in the world..yes still!

philsulina heath,, doesnt do shit lol just pump muscles lol ,,top 5 bodybuild in the world

list go on and on and on and on ,,

im surporized you fellas havent learned yet that reality of the matter is that if a girl can get her leg to look nice thick and developed with 25lb paltes acros a bar.. or many times on machines... lol you as bodybuild can do exact same thing,,

this is so wrong whats going on in the cult for so many years,, you see ron colman ass to the ground severe mutation of outstanding development that came from respond to hormone and genetic respond to hormones and over all respond to training,, you see him sqwuating heavy for video and you think oh ill go do that ,, and same for the othr...dont you understand we do it for videos mainly? after all this time dont youget it?

yes you can work with 4 plates each side of a bar and squat,,will you do it relegiously and grow better and bigger for long time ,,NO,, will you kill yourself on the way ? YES YOU WILL ,, WILL IT RESULT IN BIGGER MUSCLE WITH OUT HORMONES AND ENOUGH OF THEM ? N E V E R

work smart fellas dont work with the balonie you read on muscular devlop or flex,, those are liars ,,they work on you round and round like the song goes ,,and you always fall for this ,,
Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: Swlabr on March 19, 2012, 05:38:00 AM
Regarding trenbolone acetate with GH priming

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when it comes to steve,, i do think he has one of the best build for pro in the 202s,,actualy to be honest....best build period with out consideration to weights,, the diff is that while jason huh take his gh like there is no tomorrow....steve cant afford it...and this is what stop him ,,if competition was based soley on quality of physiqe with out consideration to weight and hgh insulina usage....steve would be top 10 o fella

it is not sad ...it is just the way it is,, bodybuiold is first and formost the legit hormones...then it is your respond to them and your TIME ON THEM,,and then! it is specific products that have to be there....you just cant make it with no hgh into the high level YOU CAN NOT now day,,you do understand that inorder to grow to the sizes talked about you need to eat rich dense calorie food right? if you do it on some testosterona and dianabola you will look like granny sally from south alabama ,, you will be big yes you will weight lots yes,, but does granma sally have muscle poping everywhere conditioned and waist that is small and tight? no she doesnt ...granma sally have edema and have knee problems and all sort of problems from her being overweight aka FAT..this is what will happen to bodybuild when he is on testopsterona and dianabola  and eat lots and lots of rich dense calories...esepcially if he is over 30....

anyone have muscle under the fat...but when you cant see that muscle that = you look like balonie

so yes you will have to take rich dense calories...but you will also have to be on hgh so those calories wont get you looking liek granny sally ,,you need trenbolona because trenbolona makes you grow lean no matter what you eat....it just grow the COW LEANNNN,, shed fat and get higher lean muscle ....there is nothing better then that as simple as that,,then you can also play with testosterona....for thickneining and stamina and all the good stuff it can bring when gh and trenbolona are in blood....

i keep tellin fellas...

you can become amazing AMAZING lookin bodybuild on

hgh priming...

then

trenbolona ace

low testosterona propioneta ...

low masterona....

and blitz of anadrola while dropping the testosterona  for the end stage

this can make you turn heads from cars passing by and those cars will luckly wont do accidents...you do it and see the way drivers look at you when you get out of car anywhere! they will almost do accident turning their head to see you IM TALKING MEN! lol not homos ...regular males,,,the girls...well they will be loud to get your attention ,, but the attention will be anywhere you go with or with our shirt ,,,when shirt go off....it will become 3 times more impressive ofcourse


you get in lots of calories when you have the drugs to go along with it! thats how you advance in bodybuild

and! even the highest levbel bodybuilders ...dont eat so much...yes we eat alot at times...but! the drugs we take utilize the food so well that it really after all just a matter of ENOUGH FOOD not extra...hgh let us eat extra with insulina and that what gets the kai green enigma called midsection ,,, too much food being pushed in by insulina in high doses and gh that got to be there to keep low bodyfat when on insulina,,

name of the game is having the RIGHT DRUGS IN THE BLOOD STREAM,,doesnt have to be both hgh and trenbolona same time,, but i recomend to always count on one of them to be in bloood,, AT ALL TIMES

EITHER TRENBOLONA ACE OR HGH ,, those 2 are the most importanto drugs for bodybuilders
Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: Swlabr on March 19, 2012, 05:38:46 AM
Trenbolone acetate and girls

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notice how girls look at you diff whren on trenbolona ace,,notice how there is suden attraction from the whore to you ,, no matter what she thought of you before lol notice that!,, only drug that give thi sis trenbolona lol notice how the girls turnnnn their head in an effort to smile at you and for you to notice them ,, notice how they WONT CARE IF THERE IS WEDDING RING on your finger! notice all those things,, notice how sudenly the local 21 year old stripper that nevr looked twards any one of the losers in your local gymnasium sudenly she enter the gymasium going to the cardio area...and look at you from over there when she think you dont notice when you pretednet to texting someone or talk to someone...

notice how the girl that cmae to check her mail ....suddenly drop her mail when she see you in a surprize coming when she turn around ...she is also start talking loud to herself and if she has a girlfriend there she will mention something about working her fat ass or she need to work out tonight,, lol notice all this lol

notice how the waitress know immediatly when you get in the restaurant that you are bodybuilder,, no if no but ,, they know exactly what you do even if 190lb lol notice that ,, notice the looks the girls give you when they get together and look from near the bar while waiting for your order to be ready ,, notice how they suddenly have spark in the eyes because....they ALL ARE ATTRACTED TO TRENBOLONA LOOK LIKE YOU MEN ARE ATTRACTED TO BARBIE TANN TONED SKIN WITH PERKY TITS AND BUBBLE BUTT,,THE DIFF IS USUALY GIRL DO NOT ACT ON THIS....BUT! IF YOU ARE THE TYPE OF BODYBUILD WHO IS A PARTYIER....NOT MANY AROUND SINCE THEY DONT LAST LONG....YOU WILL GET LOTS AND LOTS OF PUSSY ON TRENBOLONA ,,ask derek ,, oh wait he is a homo lol my bad ,, I JOKE DEREK I JOKEEEE lol

trenbolona is highly important hormone friends,, or in gh15 saying...

why drain the beef when you can already get it prime cut 4% : )
Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: Swlabr on March 19, 2012, 05:44:32 AM
I couldn't be bothered reading the reply's, but you'd only been training a year. Anything will fucking work for a while still, and juice will just accelerate it. Should have stayed clean at least 18 more months but whatever.

Well, I was a pretty lean 180 lbs. Yeah, I could've probably gained 5 more lbs naturally with a lot of dedication and hard work, but honestly (and you can call me lazy, generation nothingness bla bla bla) I just want to be big and lean with as little effort as possible. What better way than hormones?
Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: Jaime on March 19, 2012, 11:48:29 AM
Well, I was a pretty lean 180 lbs. Yeah, I could've probably gained 5 more lbs naturally with a lot of dedication and hard work, but honestly (and you can call me lazy, generation nothingness bla bla bla) I just want to be big and lean with as little effort as possible. What better way than hormones?

wtf you hit your genetic limit in  year more or less?
Title: inregarding gh15's advices
Post by: dustin on March 19, 2012, 01:16:49 PM
I'd like to share my views on gh15's advices because I feel they're severely under-appreciated and people need to drop the cynical attitudes and pay attention. This advice is too valuable to joke around about and it's saved me a ton of time and money. I think these advices are golden and that only someone deeply immersed in the game could abstract and describe things in the way gh15 does. It's esoteric, just like the way tbombz described taking a dick in the butt. "A deep tissue anal massage" is something only a person with a two-way asshole can describe. I could never describe with such clarity what a dick in the ass feels like, because only shit comes out of my ass and I only put my dick in the ass of others, so no matter how hard I try I couldn't hit the nail on the head like either of these fellas. Make sense? With me so far? Good.

It may just be my overly philosophic stoner way of interpretation but it's helped people that I've mentored online and in real life. I've also posted pictures throughout the years and although I'm no schmoe's tier 1 prized muscle stud, I'd like to think that I've made some pretty awesome progress for how shitty my genetics are, how poor my consistency is and how little fucks I've given towards training. I suggest you guys really change the way you look at things. A faggy analogy I guess I could use would be comparing it to cooking a souffle. Sure, it's usually just eggs, milk, a bit of flour, butter and salt and pepper but do you think if you throw all those ingredients into a bowl and bake it that anything will happen? NO!!! You need to do things properly and with FINESSE!!! This is what separates tier 1 pros with tier 1 losers with giant dick-purple moon faces, bacne, t-rex arms and a sheath of water that would make a camel envious.

When you inject your homonas, you must do so with specific timing. When you eat, you can eat way more liberally than what the magazines prescribe. BUT you must use your fucking brain and choose the right foods that align with how you train and what drugs you're taking! And when you train, you also need to think of things holistically and ask the following - how hard are you training, what drugs are you taking, how recovered are you from your last workout, how hard have you been hitting it lately, how fucked are you in the head right now and how's shit going outside the gym for you? Just basically use your FUCKING HEADS and the rest takes care of itself.

Yes, to sum it up the more drugs you use the more you'll put on muscle and get conditioned. But you can refine your training, refine your PED regimen and protocols, refine your eating and get so much more out of it. I'm not prescribing chicken breast and broccoli or more or less drugs, but I'm just saying to use these advices and learn how to INCORPORATE them into YOUR life. There are no cookie cutter training routines, drug cycles or diet plans. You need to find out what works and you need to make it work. gh15's done a beautiful job of laying the foundation but it's up to you to build things from there. You need to fill in the blanks and you need to connect the dots.

I know a lot of people are discrediting gh15's "elfs" but I wanted to put it out there at the risk of being ridiculed too. I've always been respectful as fuck to you phaggots, so I would hope that you guys reciprocate that too because I'm being a little more serious than usual when I post this. You bros can agree with me, laugh at me, come at my bro, or whatever. But hopefully someone out there will read this and start doing shit properly. I already have a small following of people I'm helping through PMs and emails from here so I at least know a few people can appreciate it.
Title: Re: inregarding gh15's advices
Post by: bigmc on March 19, 2012, 01:17:38 PM
are you saying you love the cock
Title: Re: inregarding gh15's advices
Post by: dustin on March 19, 2012, 01:19:22 PM
are you saying you love the cock

Nope, but I like to stick mine inside of stuff. Female stuffs only though.
Title: Re: inregarding gh15's advices
Post by: SweetMuscles on March 19, 2012, 01:23:11 PM
Bit of a hefty post. Any pics of the result of following said advices?
Title: Re: inregarding gh15's advices
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on March 19, 2012, 01:28:12 PM
To summarize.

Skinny kid reads GH15 post

"fellas need trenbolnona,, Gh, lilttel test,, Primo from Tpo Chefs,, anadrolonia,, eat lots of tilapia,,,,,sushi with bento box,,rice like chinese doorman and ice cream sandwchesi at nite,, never change needles,, fella shoot in glutius 100 times no washy,,, not share lik heriin junkie"

Skinny kid drops $2500 on a basket of steroids,

Injects 3 grams a week,  6 weeks later is up 25 pounds and comes back to getbig at how much of a genious GH15 was for opening their eyes that Gakic and Lukic won't turn them into Mr. Olympia.
Title: Re: inregarding gh15's advices
Post by: dustin on March 19, 2012, 01:29:14 PM
Bit of a hefty post. Any pics of the result of following said advices?

Image and file sharing sites are blocked by our corporate firewall so I unfortunately can't post anything myself. They've been posted here though, especially a sweet ET chop recently. I felt honoured lol ;D

My wife's training at my gym a lot more though and I'll definitely snap some pics up soon. Was gonna wait until the new site was launched but I'll share them sooner than later. Feeling great about my physique lately.
Title: Re: inregarding gh15's advices
Post by: wes on March 19, 2012, 01:31:56 PM
What kind of herb you smoking today bro?  ;)

Good post actually................ ... all except the cock in the ass stuff!   ;D
Title: Re: inregarding gh15's advices
Post by: NeilGM on March 19, 2012, 01:32:51 PM
Good shout Dustin, keep up the helping
Title: Re: inregarding gh15's advices
Post by: Your Average GymRat on March 19, 2012, 01:34:39 PM
What kind of herb you smoking today bro?  ;)

Good post actually................ ... all except the cock in the ass stuff!   ;D
This is a 60 year loser with chemical depenency using words like"herb" and "bro" thinking he sounds cool. How much money do you have in the bank? Your stock portfolio? Loser.
Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: dustin on March 19, 2012, 01:39:59 PM
Why in the fuck did the mods merge my thread!?!? >:(

Mine is unlike others'. No one smokes as much weed as I do. WHAT THE FUCK!!!
Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: wes on March 19, 2012, 01:42:14 PM
This is a 60 year loser with chemical depenency using words like"herb" and "bro" thinking he sounds cool. How much money do you have in the bank? Your stock portfolio? Loser.
I`m from a place where you and your ilk would never have survived a week...........possibly even a minute without at least shitting your pants repeatedly.

You are gonna` be gone soon cuddles,mark my words.........gone for good fuckstick! ;D
Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: Your Average GymRat on March 19, 2012, 01:45:10 PM
I`m for a place where you and your ilk would never have survived a week...........possibly even a minute without at least shitting your pants repeatedly.

You are gonna` be gone soon cuddles,mark my words.........gone for good fuckstick! ;D
You're what? Can't make sense out of your gibberish. Been drinking again?
Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: wes on March 19, 2012, 01:47:55 PM
You're what? Can't make sense out of your gibberish. Been drinking again?
It won`t be long now dickbreath.............s ee ya` !!  LOL  ;D
Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: Jaime on March 19, 2012, 04:57:17 PM
wtf Swlabr you hit your genetic limit in year more or less?

Bump.
Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: b-boy on March 19, 2012, 05:49:52 PM
Regarding heavy lifting
kamali squats a lot...heavy! ,,did it help him? see curent condition

thomas prince used to squat a lot....heavyyyyyy...did it ummm help him? see current condition lol

mikelango fransuia... squated a lottttttt....heavvvvy,, did it ummm help him? see current condition

list go onnnn and onnnnn and onnnnnn

now look at those fellas..

denis wolfe...doesnt squat much,, work hacks and even that he can find ways around it,, top 5 bodybuild in the world

dexxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxar jaxson,, doesnt squat much,,prefer hacks and even that he can find ways around it,, number 1 bodybuild in the world..yes still!

philsulina heath,, doesnt do shit lol just pump muscles lol ,,top 5 bodybuild in the world

list go on and on and on and on ,,

im surporized you fellas havent learned yet that reality of the matter is that if a girl can get her leg to look nice thick and developed with 25lb paltes acros a bar.. or many times on machines... lol you as bodybuild can do exact same thing,,

this is so wrong whats going on in the cult for so many years,, you see ron colman ass to the ground severe mutation of outstanding development that came from respond to hormone and genetic respond to hormones and over all respond to training,, you see him sqwuating heavy for video and you think oh ill go do that ,, and same for the othr...dont you understand we do it for videos mainly? after all this time dont youget it?

yes you can work with 4 plates each side of a bar and squat,,will you do it relegiously and grow better and bigger for long time ,,NO,, will you kill yourself on the way ? YES YOU WILL ,, WILL IT RESULT IN BIGGER MUSCLE WITH OUT HORMONES AND ENOUGH OF THEM ? N E V E R

work smart fellas dont work with the balonie you read on muscular devlop or flex,, those are liars ,,they work on you round and round like the song goes ,,and you always fall for this ,,

this bible index truly hit home for me and saved me a lot of knee pain. I rarely squat ever! and my legs are bigger now than they ever have been, i hit them with high reps, high volume and pump them so full of blood it feels like my quads are going to tear away from my knees, but i have zero joint pain when i do this, my knee only kills me when i go retarded heavy on an excersise. thanks gh15 for saving my knees and allowing to me to do this cult sport for a few more years to come.
Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: Swlabr on March 19, 2012, 05:54:22 PM
Bump.

Nah, I think I could've gained a few more lbs of muscle. The natural limit for 6 foot is 180 lbs at 6%. Considering I was 8-9%, dieted down I would've probably been 165 - 170 lbs TOPS.
Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: AlphaMaleDawg on March 19, 2012, 05:56:15 PM
I'm considering giving the no squats thing a try. I have been getting knee pain over the last year with them. It's just I can't help but not start at the squat rack every leg workout
Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: thebdog on March 19, 2012, 06:01:30 PM
i stick to front squats. no more back squats. legs have responded well. lower back has no pain for the first time in years.
Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: Jaime on March 19, 2012, 06:23:42 PM
Nah, I think I could've gained a few more lbs of muscle. The natural limit for 6 foot is 180 lbs at 6%. Considering I was 8-9%, dieted down I would've probably been 165 - 170 lbs TOPS.


Ok cool.

I hate squats tbh and agree.
Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: gh15 on March 19, 2012, 09:28:49 PM
i love bboy ,, he risk so much for gh15,, you dont have to do it bboy you ok in my book,, get your contract and pro card and get on o stage or win some shows because you can
thank yo u

gh15 approved
Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: Swlabr on March 25, 2012, 07:38:31 PM
How to incorporate growth hormone into your arsenal

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friends,, i get quetions asking how to incorperate gh into bodybuild arsenal,,i answered it already many times before,, once again

the way YOU INCORPORATE HUMAN GROWTH HORMONE TO A CYCLE...there is no such a thing as cycle,, but we can clal it cycle eventhough it is one long all year cycle ,, but the way you incorperate hgh is as follow

all through your so call offseason you are on gh this is somethign that has to be there HAS TO BE THERE ALL THE TIME,, it is base remember mutatition will not happen with out it!!! it has to be there in the blood,,

now when do you take it out and have the window of opportunity i talk about all the time?

you can take it out prior to competition about 8 week before you want to get to the condition of your life time...you pull out the gh ,,this is when NO DIURETIC INVOLVED with diuretic you can wait even longer sometime very few dsays before show,, but this is more comlicated and it is more levrone approach and philsulina approach of growing into a show whee you abuse human growth hormone to enormoous levels,, this is why they get so big and grow into a show...abuse of the growth,,

so you are on gh all the time,, you prime body prime body ,, it is cooking under the skin in the blood it create fibers,, it keep you leaner and leaner it grow fibricious fibers around your bones making everything fuller form the inside out  suddenly nothing is pointy anymore,, no pointy bones aroud everything is full round and sculpted cut to the bone...push water into muscle and add fibers as i say ...all that happen in offseason when you are lookign fatter but you are not ....you only hold what we call the gh water...and at times some fat due to very high doses of testosterona but its not the case if you know your body well,, so as i said you have gh in the blood all the time offseason all year...then BOOM 2 months before you need to be CONDITIONED DRY ...AND READY TO LOOK IMPRESSIVE AS IN PULL ILLUSION BECAUSE IT IS ILLUSION AFTER ALL BODYBUILD...then! you pull out the gh so reduction of water can occure and continue with higher doses of trenbolona ,,masterona and other productst that wil harden you and dry you even more...this is also when lean face smaller head bigger body illusion come into play ,, this is also when all the female want to sleep with you etc,,


now,, to the repetetive questions...what if yo dont use hgh ,, what then? what wil hapen is that you will be smaller bodybuider ,, evrything will go into 2 dimentions and you may have same condition after hard diet but you wil be smaller a good dose of lower lean muscle mass type of smaller,,you will also wont be able to get as conditioned so you will have to reduce even more weight to get into same conditon the gh fella is ,,in other words expect to be a good 10-20 lb smaller on stage in the same condition IF YOU ONLY USE 5-6 IU!,, yes yes this is how important gh is


remember,, you will NEVER LOOK the smae if no gh in blood,, the only reason you hear bodybuild say they are not on gh is because they TWIST the truth and tell you they are not on gh a month before a show...they dont tell that they just finished 5 months gh priming not too long ago

dont ever let anyone fool you ,, gh is the most important factor in moden bodybuild

gh15 approved
Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: Swlabr on March 25, 2012, 07:40:08 PM
Lethargy on hormones

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well,, when your life evolve around hormones,,when this is your bread and butter,, and ask any bodybuild even intermediate level...this IS their bread and butter the hormones moment 48 hour pass with no injection they start going kookoo if they pull another 24 hour with no injection and i mean injectionS they really start mentaly felling smaller and out oof condition by the MINUTE,, trust me on that i describe you exact mentality of bodybuild ,,

now! when you take so many hormones,, ESPECIALY when you involve ORALS in the equation ,, but also with injects,, you get specific sides that i have not talked about in detail yet in bible i will on webpage or even here right now

the main sides you get from exessive usage of hormones is not high blood pressure,, not this balonie redness,, all this balonie hapen from shit product and nto knowing what to do with what and how to do what,,

the real side effect os hormones taken consistantly and in higher and higher doses are


letargy!

letargy is a sign that your body either grow! or! that your liver is tired and fighting and healing itself ,, this is why you fella all like to sleep when on orals like anadrola ,,

now... how do we fight this sides.... the first way a bodybuild figght letargy from orals is more food,,  we eat and eat and stay active ,, if you notice when you are on anadrola if you do nothing sit in house all day ...and dont feel like eating....you will go to sleep you wil fal aslessp on your computer or just fall asleep every few hours and sometime for good 5-6 hours sleep,, the way to right it and win is with eating! with being more active ,, but mainly with making sure yum yum get in and TASTY not boring yum yum,, not junk food but good interstgin meals like sushi and the such many other options,,

but as i said the way to fight those things is with food intake and with ....beiugn active,,

now! there is a time and point where no matter what you eat or what you do you wil be fucked,, this is when doses are higher than gymasium rat zones,, and gymnsium rat zones is the 5-10 iu gh ,, 500 mg trenbolona ,, etc..those are ! gymnasium rat zones! moment you go over those doses....you start getting letargy that last no mater what...

how do you fight this?


n a r c o t i c s

many kind of narcotics,, from pain killers to xanax to many hypers ,, this gives a high ! this high last and get you through letargy... it also kill you from the inside....

to be continued on webpage,,

gh15 approved
Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: ChristopherA on March 25, 2012, 07:44:09 PM
Nah, I think I could've gained a few more lbs of muscle. The natural limit for 6 foot is 180 lbs at 6%. Considering I was 8-9%, dieted down I would've probably been 165 - 170 lbs TOPS.
The natty limit for 6' is 180lbs? Haha man I am a genetic freak being 6'1" and 210 natty without even training legs. When I was natty that is
Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: noc on March 25, 2012, 07:53:20 PM
Swlabr collating very valuable posts here, nice one  8)
Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: Swlabr on March 25, 2012, 07:54:30 PM
The natty limit for 6' is 180lbs? Haha man I am a genetic freak being 6'1" and 210 natty without even training legs

You can also be 6 foot, 350 lbs naturally. These natural limits are for lean, dry guys.
Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: Swlabr on March 25, 2012, 07:55:20 PM
Swlabr collating very valuable posts here, nice one  8)

My pleasure, I love reading through gh15's old posts. Lots of gold in there.
Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: ChristopherA on March 25, 2012, 07:57:15 PM
You can also be 6 foot, 350 lbs naturally. These natural limits are for lean, dry guys.
No shit I was fucking shredded was goin out clubbing every weekend popping x.
Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: OptimusPrime1980 on March 27, 2012, 07:42:52 AM
The natty limit for 6' is 180lbs? Haha man I am a genetic freak being 6'1" and 210 natty without even training legs. When I was natty that is
somehow i doubt that you are stage ready at 5%....
because the limits talked about by gh15 are all stageready weights.... so 5% and without water retention....
every inch adds 7 pounds... so at 6'1 you would be about 187...at 5% (the limit)
you are 210.... get rid of some fat and water .... and where are you at???? exactly.... about 187 pounds...

genetic freaks do not exist.... we are all human you know? ;)
Title: Why GH15 Is Great
Post by: 6 Reps on April 12, 2012, 07:47:14 PM
Over the past couple of years since I discovered Getbig and Gossip & Opinions, I have usually enjoyed reading the postings of GH15.  As a lifetime natural (which may change) and someone who loves to train, I've found his writings to be both insightful and humorous, despite his poor grammar.

But more than that, I have been most stuck by his open willingness to share his knowledge and experience to those "coming up the ladder."  As we all know he often referred to his readers as his "pupils."  It's almost as if he were an esteemed professor of bodybuilding, or some wise old teacher.  I even recall one post where he wrote something like (and sorry I can't exactly recall the quote): "turn these kids into serious bodybuilders."

This attitude and approach of his to give back to others, to young people, I think speaks volumes about his character and love of bodybuilding.  In today's world, so few people are willing to give back, to share their expertise with others, and especially in a ferociously competitive environment like competition bodybuilding, I think is truly remarkable.

I cannot believe that he is a fake, as some on this board allege.  A faker, especially a young faker, would never have the depth to take such an attitude.  This can only come from someone with a long experience, both in bodybuilding and in life.

I have no idea who GH15 is.  I hope I can locate his new website, unfortunately I'm not well connected in  the universe of bodybuilding blogs and sites.   I will surely miss him here, as I respect him as a learned fellow who only has the deepest love for bodybuilding and a sincere desire to help others.
Title: Re: Why GH15 Is Great
Post by: njflex on April 12, 2012, 07:49:46 PM
 :-*
Title: Re: Why GH15 Is Great
Post by: Schmoff on April 12, 2012, 07:52:48 PM
fuck off

Title: Re: Why GH15 Is Great
Post by: Nails on April 12, 2012, 07:53:14 PM
I still have yet to see him post a complete cycle... Week by week in excel , PDF , or picture of paper with ink on it
Title: Re: Why GH15 Is Great
Post by: bike nut on April 12, 2012, 07:55:11 PM
OP.....die in a fire.  ::)
Title: Re: Why GH15 Is Great
Post by: Marlo Stanfield on April 12, 2012, 08:05:37 PM
Go Out Fatboy
Title: Re: Why GH15 Is Great
Post by: bike nut on April 12, 2012, 08:10:50 PM
Get Out Fatboy

Isn't it "go out fatboy"?
Title: Re: Why GH15 Is Great
Post by: 6 Reps on April 12, 2012, 08:12:09 PM
I am not fat, or Fatboy.
Title: Re: Why GH15 Is Great
Post by: bike nut on April 12, 2012, 08:14:44 PM
I am not fat, or Fatboy.

Go out fatboy....
Title: Re: Why GH15 Is Great
Post by: tommywishbone on April 12, 2012, 08:19:14 PM
 :(
Title: Re: Why GH15 Is Great
Post by: ChristopherA on April 12, 2012, 08:21:12 PM
Geez you been here awhile so I can't say STFU noob. I would reccomend you keep your love letters PM from here out though
Title: Re: Why GH15 Is Great
Post by: Marlo Stanfield on April 12, 2012, 08:29:13 PM
Isn't it "go out fatboy"?

wasnt sure, too lazy to find the thread :D
Title: Re: Why GH15 Is Great
Post by: 6 Reps on April 12, 2012, 08:31:32 PM
:(

One of my frustrations with this board is that so many honest topics turn into a subject on sexual orientation.
Title: Re: Why GH15 Is Great
Post by: Krankenstein on April 12, 2012, 08:43:23 PM
One of my frustrations with this board is that so many honest topics turn into a subject on sexual orientation.

One of my frustrations is what a complete dead fuck your mom is. 
Title: Re: Why GH15 Is Great
Post by: 6 Reps on April 12, 2012, 08:49:09 PM
One of my frustrations is what a complete dead fuck your mom is. 

LOL!!  ;D 
Title: Re: Why GH15 Is Great
Post by: ChristopherA on April 12, 2012, 08:49:52 PM
I was gonna start a thread but I figured I would just post here. What's the story on the altering of posts by gh15 and g101? Also gh15 threads disappearing? Ya he's leaving soon but the guy brought allot of traffic to the board. Now you're gonna kick him in the ass on the way out? Unless rules were broken and the threads had grounds for deletion, then I'm wrong. Seemed to be typical gh15 threads though
Title: Re: Why GH15 Is Great
Post by: Nails on April 12, 2012, 08:53:06 PM
I see you haven't noticed the gh15 account post several essays minutes after each other, there is no way on person can type all that up and post minutes apart....
Several people post under the GH15 account
Title: Re: Why GH15 Is Great
Post by: ChristopherA on April 12, 2012, 08:59:57 PM
I see you haven't noticed the gh15 account post several essays minutes after each other, there is no way on person can type all that up and post minutes apart....
Several people post under the GH15 account
Hmm never noticed that. If he was speed typing that would explain the poor grammar. I have read gh15 from the beginning and it's always read like the same person to me. Don't really care either, he's very entertaining and knows his shit
Title: Re: Why GH15 Is Great
Post by: Nirvana on April 12, 2012, 09:06:21 PM
I was gonna start a thread but I figured I would just post here. What's the story on the altering of posts by gh15 and g101? Also gh15 threads disappearing? Ya he's leaving soon but the guy brought allot of traffic to the board. Now you're gonna kick him in the ass on the way out? Unless rules were broken and the threads had grounds for deletion, then I'm wrong. Seemed to be typical gh15 threads though
yeah his leaving getbig (yeah another one) thread is gone.  the one about ripped.com is gone.

getting fishy
Title: Re: Why GH15 Is Great
Post by: abijahmaniaco on April 12, 2012, 09:22:24 PM
Over the past couple of years since I discovered Getbig and Gossip & Opinions, I have usually enjoyed reading the postings of GH15.  As a lifetime natural (which may change) and someone who loves to train, I've found his writings to be both insightful and humorous, despite his poor grammar.

But more than that, I have been most stuck by his open willingness to share his knowledge and experience to those "coming up the ladder."  As we all know he often referred to his readers as his "pupils."  It's almost as if he were an esteemed professor of bodybuilding, or some wise old teacher.  I even recall one post where he wrote something like (and sorry I can't exactly recall the quote): "turn these kids into serious bodybuilders."

This attitude and approach of his to give back to others, to young people, I think speaks volumes about his character and love of bodybuilding.  In today's world, so few people are willing to give back, to share their expertise with others, and especially in a ferociously competitive environment like competition bodybuilding, I think is truly remarkable.

I cannot believe that he is a fake, as some on this board allege.  A faker, especially a young faker, would never have the depth to take such an attitude.  This can only come from someone with a long experience, both in bodybuilding and in life.

I have no idea who GH15 is.  I hope I can locate his new website, unfortunately I'm not well connected in  the universe of bodybuilding blogs and sites.   I will surely miss him here, as I respect him as a learned fellow who only has the deepest love for bodybuilding and a sincere desire to help others.


man, you know... *sighs* this really hits home for me. over and over when i've asked for help. and there's not very many where i live. guys who could help—guys who are leaps ahead of me. i've asked earnestly for help and who've blown me off. ignored me, acted like i didn't exist, etc... fucking assholes man. >:(

one time gh15 said something. he said he felt bad for the days that he didn't help guys that came up to him for help. he felt bad about the times when he didn't give them real advice. he said, and i'll never forget "guys who had twinkle in eye". :'(

that's fucking me man.............







 :'(

no one knows what i've got inside of me. no one man.
Title: Re: Why GH15 Is Great
Post by: ChristopherA on April 12, 2012, 09:25:41 PM
man, you know... *sighs* this really hits home for me. over and over when i've asked for help. and there's not very many where i live. guys who could help—guys who are leaps ahead of me. i've asked earnestly for help and who've blown me off. ignored me, acted like i didn't exist, etc... fucking assholes man. >:(

one time gh15 said something. he said he felt bad for the days that he didn't help guys that came up to him for help. he felt bad about the times when he didn't give them real advice. he said, and i'll never forget "guys who had twinkle in eye". :'(

that's fucking me man.............






I
 :'(

no one knows what i've got inside of me. no one man.
Nicely put bro.
Title: Re: Why GH15 Is Great
Post by: Nails on April 12, 2012, 09:40:55 PM
man, you know... *sighs* this really hits home for me. over and over when i've asked for help. and there's not very many where i live. guys who could help—guys who are leaps ahead of me. i've asked earnestly for help and who've blown me off. ignored me, acted like i didn't exist, etc... fucking assholes man. >:(

one time gh15 said something. he said he felt bad for the days that he didn't help guys that came up to him for help. he felt bad about the times when he didn't give them real advice. he said, and i'll never forget "guys who had twinkle in eye". :'(

that's fucking me man.............







 :'(

no one knows what i've got inside of me. no one man.


I hear that... I've been a natty my whole life, if I ever meet someone in person that had experiance in the bodybuilding game I would have been pinning for years now, instead everyone I see or meet still wanna claim natural while still bleeding from the morning pinning on the shoulder.

Even the steroid board on getbig is all hush hush shit.... Thanks to an elf I might get my dick wet in chemical soon  ;D
Title: Re: Why GH15 Is Great
Post by: Bulkyboyy on April 12, 2012, 09:48:09 PM
man, you know... *sighs* this really hits home for me. over and over when i've asked for help. and there's not very many where i live. guys who could help—guys who are leaps ahead of me. i've asked earnestly for help and who've blown me off. ignored me, acted like i didn't exist, etc... fucking assholes man. >:(

one time gh15 said something. he said he felt bad for the days that he didn't help guys that came up to him for help. he felt bad about the times when he didn't give them real advice. he said, and i'll never forget "guys who had twinkle in eye". :'(

that's fucking me man.............







 :'(

no one knows what i've got inside of me. no one man.

I would still be stuffing my face and killing myself in the gym wondering why I'm not growing!!
Title: Re: Why GH15 Is Great
Post by: Rearden Metal on April 12, 2012, 09:52:31 PM
I still have yet to see him post a complete cycle... Week by week in excel , PDF , or picture of paper with ink on it

Who in red hell "cycles"?

Bodybuilders don't come off. We subtract and add components and often, believe it or not, it's due to what's on hand or more likely, an adjustment to meet our goals.

Cycle. Lol.
Title: Re: Why GH15 Is Great
Post by: sceagacros on April 12, 2012, 09:55:08 PM
"testosterone - natural hormone to the body ,,the more of it you have the bigger you will get the more agressive and energetic you will be in the gym,,500-750mg test = 200-220lb bodybuilder ...you wanna grow bigger youll have to use more testosterone,,period" - GH15

"dbol - best drugs hands down in history of hormones,,to this day there is no drug beter than dianabol,,LEGIT dianabol will add 20lb of muscle mass on ANY LIFTER WITHIN FIRST 3-4 WEEKS OF USE,,"
- GH15


^I want this GH15 back the current one is an idiot.....


Title: Re: Why GH15 Is Great
Post by: Nails on April 12, 2012, 09:57:47 PM
Who in red hell "cycles"?

Bodybuilders don't come off. We subtract and add components and often, believe it or not, it's due to what's on hand or more likely, an adjustment to meet our goals.

Cycle. Lol.


That might be, but I'm not bout to jump on them and stay on them first round ... After a yet or two I might just lean toward that train of thought
Title: Re: Why GH15 Is Great
Post by: Nails on April 12, 2012, 09:59:39 PM
"testosterone - natural hormone to the body ,,the more of it you have the bigger you will get the more agressive and energetic you will be in the gym,,500-750mg test = 200-220lb bodybuilder ...you wanna grow bigger youll have to use more testosterone,,period" - GH15

"dbol - best drugs hands down in history of hormones,,to this day there is no drug beter than dianabol,,LEGIT dianabol will add 20lb of muscle mass on ANY LIFTER WITHIN FIRST 3-4 WEEKS OF USE,,"
- GH15


^I want this GH15 back the current one is an idiot.....





This is clear and accurate .... Straight and to the point
Title: Re: Why GH15 Is Great
Post by: abijahmaniaco on April 13, 2012, 08:35:38 AM

That might be, but I'm not bout to jump on them and stay on them first round ... After a yet or two I might just lean toward that train of thought

i thought this too. that's why the last two years have largely been a rollercoaster waste of time for me. i gained like crazy, busted my ass. then went off cycle. the first time with clomid and nolva only. i lost 22lbs. the second time i added hcg to be sure my hpta would restart in a timely manner. that time i lost 40 fucking lbs and i couldn't find a source. it was a nightmare.

here's what you do to avoid this: blast and cruise. blast for 8 to 12 weeks. then give it a rest for an equal amount of time. and by "give it a rest" i mean take a minimal dose just to maintain your size. then blast again. and when you plateau there's no sense in continuing to blast without gh/slin. and i'm not advocating slin (shit scares me to death)—just saying you wont grow further on aas alone at this point.

good luck and be healthy
Title: Re: Why GH15 Is Great
Post by: abijahmaniaco on April 13, 2012, 08:37:33 AM
"testosterone - natural hormone to the body ,,the more of it you have the bigger you will get the more agressive and energetic you will be in the gym,,500-750mg test = 200-220lb bodybuilder ...you wanna grow bigger youll have to use more testosterone,,period" - GH15

"dbol - best drugs hands down in history of hormones,,to this day there is no drug beter than dianabol,,LEGIT dianabol will add 20lb of muscle mass on ANY LIFTER WITHIN FIRST 3-4 WEEKS OF USE,,"
- GH15


^I want this GH15 back the current one is an idiot.....




spot on as always. just remember he didn't say lean muscle mass—just "muscle mass"!
Title: Re: Why GH15 Is Great
Post by: dj181 on April 13, 2012, 10:06:22 AM
"testosterone - natural hormone to the body ,,the more of it you have the bigger you will get the more agressive and energetic you will be in the gym,,500-750mg test = 200-220lb bodybuilder ...you wanna grow bigger youll have to use more testosterone,,period" - GH15

"dbol - best drugs hands down in history of hormones,,to this day there is no drug beter than dianabol,,LEGIT dianabol will add 20lb of muscle mass on ANY LIFTER WITHIN FIRST 3-4 WEEKS OF USE,,"
- GH15


^I want this GH15 back the current one is an idiot.....






well man, once he gets lots of dbol to sell and make some cash money from, then he'll be back to pushing it once again
Title: Re: Why GH15 Is Great
Post by: abijahmaniaco on April 13, 2012, 11:58:41 AM


well man, once he gets lots of dbol to sell and make some cash money from, then he'll be back to pushing it once again

he always says, "it depends upon the look you want".
Title: Re: Why GH15 Is Great
Post by: gh15 on April 13, 2012, 02:46:09 PM


well man, once he gets lots of dbol to sell and make some cash money from, then he'll be back to pushing it once again

you think you will ever be able to show 160lb 6%? i doubt it

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Why GH15 Is Great
Post by: OptimusPrime1980 on April 13, 2012, 03:08:33 PM
I see you haven't noticed the gh15 account post several essays minutes after each other, there is no way on person can type all that up and post minutes apart....
Several people post under the GH15 account
maybe he writes his posts in advance??? and then posts several when he has time??
he is busy you know....
Title: Re: Why GH15 Is Great
Post by: dj181 on April 13, 2012, 03:32:04 PM
you think you will ever be able to show 160lb 6%? i doubt it

gh15 approved

i was 154 @ sub-6 with only ECA, so yeah, i think that superdrol can take me to 160 @ sub-6

in fact, i'm shooting for 175 with 16 inch arms and a 28 inch waist

@ 154 i had 14.25 inch arms and a 29.25 inch waist

right now i'm 175 but i'm a bloated fatass with a 33.5 inch waist and 15.5 inch arms

i've now been on sdrol for 4 weeks and i've gained 18 pounds and added 2 inches to my waist and over 1 inch on each arm
Title: Re: Why GH15 Is Great
Post by: gh15 on April 13, 2012, 09:17:20 PM
i was 154 @ sub-6 with only ECA, so yeah, i think that superdrol can take me to 160 @ sub-6

in fact, i'm shooting for 175 with 16 inch arms and a 28 inch waist

@ 154 i had 14.25 inch arms and a 29.25 inch waist

right now i'm 175 but i'm a bloated fatass with a 33.5 inch waist and 15.5 inch arms

i've now been on sdrol for 4 weeks and i've gained 18 pounds and added 2 inches to my waist and over 1 inch on each arm


so you used superdrol to get to 175,, think about it for a second,, YOU USED SUPERDROL TO BE LESS THAN 8 0 KILOGRAMOS

175 lb fella have 31-32 inch waist...what 175 lb has 34 inch waist?? you are out of yoru mind im serious

no wonder groink si telling you what he telling you ,, listen to yourself

you just say to me you used superdorl! strongest oral available to be 175lb lol with 34 inch waist lol

a bodybuild! shoudl only have 34 inch waist when he it 200-210lb ! even then! many bodybuilders have 31-32 inch waist when they are 200-210lb ....

shows you just how out of reality you are...

who cant be 80 kilograms with 34 inch waist naturaly ? who? i dont know even one fella who cant achieve it naturaly ,, completely naturaly

gh15 approved
Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: sceagacros on April 13, 2012, 10:07:21 PM
I've learned from GH15 that an AI is an absolutely neccessity, after seeing  the shirtless pic of him that was up around 2 weeks ago I would NEVER run aromatizing steroids without one. Too bad he didn't do all the online research that he did to develop the hoax back when he was using steroids - that gyno won't be going anywhere without surgery.
Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: abijahmaniaco on April 13, 2012, 11:32:56 PM
Nah, I think I could've gained a few more lbs of muscle. The natural limit for 6 foot is 180 lbs at 6%. Considering I was 8-9%, dieted down I would've probably been 165 - 170 lbs TOPS.

you see??? you see mother fuckers? that homo in the creatine thread tried to make fun of me bc i could not get past 175 naturally at 5' 11". (truth was after ten years of CONSISTENT training and excellent diet i would hover between 176 and 180). i saw 180 only one time lol. i stepped on the scales and it was a one day special. usually at the beginning of the week i was lower 174 something)

fuck you randy84

fuck your shit in half

GH15 numbers apply to meat heads not creatine users, nor any other naturals. His context of #'s is only applicable with competitive athletes (stage ready) and what is possible in terms of weight and bodyfat.  

What kind of cookie cutter bullshit is it that you are defending you lack of response to a natural limit offered by your guru GH15?

You just have shits for genetics. Don't blame yourself, blame your parents.

Couldn't get past 175lb? Really?

don't you look like a dumbass now? don't you. yes you do. you sure do.
Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: abijahmaniaco on April 13, 2012, 11:41:05 PM
No shit I was fucking shredded was goin out clubbing every weekend popping x.

no shit bro? damn you must be the shit. fucking Hercules huh? banging hoes left and right i bet too? bro yo, can i suck your dick? do you maybe think some of your supreme genetics will be transferred via your ejaculations?

fuck off

everybodys a natural freak who benches this and that as long as you have internetona

FUCK OFF

FUCKING BULL SHIT
Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: apply85 on April 15, 2012, 05:33:53 PM
gh15 types fucking fast
Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: g101 on April 19, 2012, 11:35:16 PM
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Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: randy841 on April 20, 2012, 03:09:26 PM
you see??? you see mother fuckers? that homo in the creatine thread tried to make fun of me bc i could not get past 175 naturally at 5' 11". (truth was after ten years of CONSISTENT training and excellent diet i would hover between 176 and 180). i saw 180 only one time lol. i stepped on the scales and it was a one day special. usually at the beginning of the week i was lower 174 something)

fuck you randy84

fuck your shit in half

don't you look like a dumbass now? don't you. yes you do. you sure do.

You fat whore.

You couldn't get past 175lb on creatine?

Could you get past 175lb on 3 grams of juice a week?

Blame your parents, not yourself. Out of the millions of sperm cells you were the chosen one a$$hole. Unfortunate for you brother.  :-\ Go kill yourself now.

And why didn't you respond in the other thread on creatine. I came across this by chance, that's why you are getting a less then dignified response mother fuc%ker as you bitch and whine elsewhere. Man up next time and speak up, and don't bitch like a 14 year old teenager douche bag.

I'll say the same thing i told you over there. You have shits for genetics. Otherwise, every twink like you thinks they are stage worthy. That's why you are where you are whether on creatine and now on juice.

Don't let your guru GH15 tell you otherwise. He knows you are full of shit brother.

Stop getting your panties in a bunch over this.  :o
Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: anthonyclark on July 31, 2012, 09:56:56 PM
I love Nasser and those stories about Greg Kovaks his towels,Dave Polumbo... LMAO!!!
Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: whitewidow on August 01, 2012, 03:18:10 AM
if ppl are 5 11 at 175 lbs they should first blame themselves noone else.they ought learn to train and eat like a man.

has swabl ever posted pics?i kinda liked the guy but he was very much loudmouthed with no pics poste, but claiming good stats

Yeah I saw his pics he looked decent if they were his pics. I have been on getbig for 8 years and have seen people jack other peoples pictures before. But they were most likely his and he looked decent nothing to special but def not shitty.
Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on August 01, 2012, 10:05:33 AM
He did help me out though.  He helped me learn that I shouldn't trust shit I read online and that I need to find a true and honest dealer which doesn't exist.
Title: Re: GH15- He did help me personally as a bodybuilder!
Post by: dj181 on August 01, 2012, 11:02:42 AM
ah ok.

he seemed very motivated , good kid, but delude about what to expect from gh15s advice.

by now there should be hundreds of his protocol followers who look entirely like new persons, but its not happening.

many many people will be disapointed to find out its not as easy as he makes things out to be.

and nowhere near as fast.

there will be many youngsters who will have poor or average results from megadosing and theyll eventualy have to lower the dosage to lose the little progress they made.

while he laughs his way to the bank.

good post dude

if you look at 15 flaming my ass here and you're an intelligent person who can read between the lines, you'll clearly see a few things here

1. he was pissed at me coz i didn't follow his tren. test, gh protocol and make him some extra cash money, so he said that i'm playing with poop taking superdrol

2. i was very honest and forthright about my results after a few weeks on sdrol, and again he flames my ass, but this time he says that sdrol is the strongest oral out there, when just weeks prior he said that it was poop

3. my belly expanded coz i force feed myself, and he knows this damn well, but he just choose not to address it, coz it could hurt his potential sales

read between the lines dudes