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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Training Q&A => Topic started by: Donny on October 30, 2012, 04:47:13 AM
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Now this is a Blast from the past...any of you guys use these? I mean not just for Ab training. Frank Zane used these and did a Dumbbell rowing movement. I have never tried it and might try it. Anyone still use them?
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i'm interested in them too... i've been doing inversions for a while now as part of yoga... my only fear is that after 20-30 minutes of hanging upside-down i could get stuck...
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i'm interested in them too... i've been doing inversions for a while now as part of yoga... my only fear is that after 20-30 minutes of hanging upside-down i could get stuck...
;D...yes i understand Wooo. do you feel a benefit for your spine? I have always wondered if it would be good to do it and try a few rows in this position.
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Now this is a Blast from the past...any of you guys use these? I mean not just for Ab training. Frank Zane used these and did a Dumbbell rowing movement. I have never tried it and might try it. Anyone still use them?
i have a pair these are first generation ones you have pictured not supposed to be good for calves or ankles. you'd be better off with an inversion table. the second generation gravity boots had calf supports. frank calta mr pa used to do a lot of upside down exercises reverse db presses etc. jcg used to do similar exercises in the past and said they stretched him out a fukk inch and a half taller.
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Now this is a Blast from the past...any of you guys use these? I mean not just for Ab training. Frank Zane used these and did a Dumbbell rowing movement. I have never tried it and might try it. Anyone still use them?
Don,
Every experience I've heard regarding inversion apparatus has been very positive. My first gym was a very old-school place, and lots of the veteran lifters swore by the benefits of using the hooks/boots.
Today, I believe that inversion tables are a little more popular, and you can find a variety of models with more features than imaginable. You'll pay more for the better ones, but price should not be your primary concern when hanging upside-down.
I share your interest in the boots and have done a little research on them. I also know somebody on here who used to sell fitness equipment, and he told me that Teeter is a reliable brand in this department.
I'm currently eyeing up these babies: http://www.teeter-inversion.com/Store/P-B11001/Gravity+Boots
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;D
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I've always like that picture, but more so for the blond to Arnold's right. A year ago, I would have said he probably tapped that, but knowing his true preference now...
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I've always like that picture, but more so for the blond to Arnold's right. A year ago, I would have said he probably tapped that, but knowing his true preference now...
i think but not sure the girl is the famous heidi. the same girl on arnold's shoulders in the pumping iron book.
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;D
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Don,
Every experience I've heard regarding inversion apparatus has been very positive. My first gym was a very old-school place, and lots of the veteran lifters swore by the benefits of using the hooks/boots.
Today, I believe that inversion tables are a little more popular, and you can find a variety of models with more features than imaginable. You'll pay more for the better ones, but price should not be your primary concern when hanging upside-down.
I share your interest in the boots and have done a little research on them. I also know somebody on here who used to sell fitness equipment, and he told me that Teeter is a reliable brand in this department.
I'm currently eyeing up these babies: http://www.teeter-inversion.com/Store/P-B11001/Gravity+Boots
yes thanks Monty. look great and just what i need. Can use them on my free standing chinning bar set up. Even a small piece of Kit can give you a new workout challange... Funky i have read about the famous Heidi too...think it is her... ;D
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;D...yes i understand Wooo. do you feel a benefit for your spine? I have always wondered if it would be good to do it and try a few rows in this position.
i enjoy inversions... i come out of them refreshed... almost feels like i took a nap
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i think but not sure the girl is the famous heidi. the same girl on arnold's shoulders in the pumping iron book.
Hmm...unless she had her tits done between shoots, I don't think that's the same girl. The side-boob aspect looks too different.
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From gravity boots to gravity boobs ???
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Any advantage with the inversion board, over the boots? Seems it would be easier to get in and out of for a lot off people.
WOOO...The classic headstand positions, forearms 90 degrees, in you class?
Good Luck.
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i've used gravity boots to stretch out after work outs for a few years now. if i don't hang i find i'm subject to far more niggly twinges and muscle aches. also gives a nice alertness enhancement feel after too (blood flow to the brain effect).
i hang from the chin up bar on my squat rack (used to use an inversion table but found the clamps uncomfortable, changed these over to boots).
i love em...
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I believe that they are a very simple but effective addition to a workout...old school but none the less effective
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Any advantage with the inversion board, over the boots? Seems it would be easier to get in and out of for a lot off people.
WOOO...The classic headstand positions, forearms 90 degrees, in you class?
Good Luck.
board is way easier to use than just boots... i'm doing both the shoulder stand, the headstand (90 degree angled hands)and the elbow stand (this one is hardest for me right now)
typically i hold the shoulder stand (really easy) or the headstand for the most amount of time
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my dad used to have a pair and used them for his lower back.
He said they were great but a pain in the ass to get in and out of position.
Ive had back problems on and off for year and have thought about an inversion device as well.
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board is way easier to use than just a board... i'm doing both the shoulder stand, the headstand (90 degree angled hands)and the elbow stand (this one is hardest for me right now)
typically i hold the shoulder stand (really easy) or the headstand for the most amount of time
Wooo your an all round talent ! ;D
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my dad used to have a pair and used them for his lower back.
He said they were great but a pain in the ass to get in and out of position.
Ive had back problems on and off for year and have thought about an inversion device as well.
Almost all of the serious power-lifters I knew from my old local Gold's would use either the gravity boots, inversion table, the Loui Simmons-style reverse hyper bench, or any combination of those.
While I can't be 100% sure, I'd say that a big reason the reverse hyper saw the most use is that many of those lifters were bigger (and sometimes fatter) guys who weren't the most graceful of homosapiens. Many of them looked like they'd have a tough time getting into position with the boots, and I doubt that our poor table could have supported their...um...mass.
But, they all touted the benefits of decompression offered by this equipment.
I wish every gym had one of these:
(http://www.power-systems.com/images/product/medium/46318_01_.jpg)
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Wooo your an all round talent ! ;D
seriously... yoga is awesome...
newest thing i'm trying now is tai chi... again this might be laughable to most big guys but it's very relaxing and a lot harder than you would think
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seriously... yoga is awesome...
newest thing i'm trying now is tai chi... again this might be laughable to most big guys but it's very relaxing and a lot harder than you would think
Well i think that is a good thing Wooo..i used to like doing Aikido, Takemusu Iwama Ryu and Tendo Ryu. A lot of guys think this is soft and i must admit for self defence not really first choice. My point is i did it because i enjoyed the spiritual aspect and it chilled me out. as a young guy i was very fast with my hands but i wanted as a mature man of course to look for other ways. As you know i am a great fan of Frank Zane and he is very deep into having a calm mind and meditation. if it helps your health and Bodybuilding do it Wooo, shows you are an intelligent man.
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yeah that's my focus as well. i work in a high stress job and i have been lifting violently (sledgehammer training) and heavy for the last little while...
i credit the addition of yoga with my current injury free status (even my elbows feel great) and with helping me continue to make gains (stress is the biggest part of CNS overload IMO)
in december i'll be moving into one of the 3 official china towns in Toronto (moving to Agincourt aka 'Asiancourt') and there are several community groups that offers free tai chi... their intended audience is mostly 60-plus but i'm told that i will be welcomed with open arms
i should point out that i look kind of funny doing tai chi... i'm a big fricken white guy with a shaved head...
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Do not worry Wooo do it. ;) Will improve your well being , co ordination and more...
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Do not worry Wooo do it. ;) Will improve your well being , co ordination and more...
speaking of which... interesting study on transcendental meditation
http://circoutcomes.ahajournals.org/content/early/2012/11/13/CIRCOUTCOMES.112.967406.abstract (http://circoutcomes.ahajournals.org/content/early/2012/11/13/CIRCOUTCOMES.112.967406.abstract)
Stress Reduction in the Secondary Prevention of Cardiovascular Disease
Randomized, Controlled Trial of Transcendental Meditation and Health Education in Blacks
Robert H. Schneider, MD, FACC, Clarence E. Grim, MD, Maxwell V. Rainforth, PhD, Theodore Kotchen, MD, Sanford I. Nidich, EdD, Carolyn Gaylord-King, PhD, John W. Salerno, PhD, Jane Morley Kotchen, MD, MPH and Charles N. Alexander, PhD†
From the Institute for Natural Medicine and Prevention, Maharishi University of Management, Fairfield, IA (R.H.S., M.V.R., S.I.N., C.G-K., J.W.S., C.N.A.); Center for Natural Medicine and Prevention, Maharishi University of Management Research Institute, Maharishi Vedic City, IA (R.H.S., M.V.R., S.I.N., C.G-K., J.W.S.); and Department of Medicine, Medical College of Wisconsin, Milwaukee, WI (C.E.G., T.K., J.M.K.).
Correspondence to Robert H. Schneider, MD, FACC, Institute for Natural Medicine and Prevention, Maharishi University of Management, Fairfield, IA 52556. E-mail RSchneider@mum.edu
Abstract
Background—Blacks have disproportionately high rates of cardiovascular disease. Psychosocial stress may contribute to this disparity. Previous trials on stress reduction with the Transcendental Meditation (TM) program have reported improvements in cardiovascular disease risk factors, surrogate end points, and mortality in blacks and other populations.
Methods and Results—This was a randomized, controlled trial of 201 black men and women with coronary heart disease who were randomized to the TM program or health education. The primary end point was the composite of all-cause mortality, myocardial infarction, or stroke. Secondary end points included the composite of cardiovascular mortality, revascularizations, and cardiovascular hospitalizations; blood pressure; psychosocial stress factors; and lifestyle behaviors. During an average follow-up of 5.4 years, there was a 48% risk reduction in the primary end point in the TM group (hazard ratio, 0.52; 95% confidence interval, 0.29–0.92; P=0.025). The TM group also showed a 24% risk reduction in the secondary end point (hazard ratio, 0.76; 95% confidence interval, 0.51–0.1.13; P=0.17). There were reductions of 4.9 mm Hg in systolic blood pressure (95% confidence interval −8.3 to –1.5 mm Hg; P=0.01) and anger expression (P<0.05 for all scales). Adherence was associated with survival.
Conclusions—A selected mind–body intervention, the TM program, significantly reduced risk for mortality, myocardial infarction, and stroke in coronary heart disease patients. These changes were associated with lower blood pressure and psychosocial stress factors. Therefore, this practice may be clinically useful in the secondary prevention of cardiovascular disease.
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Interesting Wooo, i think the benifits of a calm mind are clear.Heart disease runs in my Family too and my Father sufferd a bad heart attack at my age.. :( still i exercise and do not smoke and am really into mental fitness too.."Mens sana in corpore sano" (A healthy mind in a Healthy Body)
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yeah that's my focus as well. i work in a high stress job and i have been lifting violently (sledgehammer training) and heavy for the last little while...
i credit the addition of yoga with my current injury free status (even my elbows feel great) and with helping me continue to make gains (stress is the biggest part of CNS overload IMO)
in december i'll be moving into one of the 3 official china towns in Toronto (moving to Agincourt aka 'Asiancourt') and there are several community groups that offers free tai chi... their intended audience is mostly 60-plus but i'm told that i will be welcomed with open arms
i should point out that i look kind of funny doing tai chi... i'm a big fricken white guy with a shaved head...
What kind of Yoga do you currently practice?
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What kind of Yoga do you currently practice?
hatha, with a focus on pranayama (the art of the breath)
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hatha, with a focus on pranayama (the art of the breath)
sounds like you are well into it Wooo...
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sounds like you are well into it Wooo...
it's been 5 months but i'm pretty comfortable in all intermediate poses... some of the advanced poses will likely elude me for years but regardless i really enjoy yoga...
tai chi is very new to me (but lots of fun), I try to meditate for 30 minutes per week minimum (guided meditation with something i downloaded from youtube) and i'm going to try pilates on the weekend...
fun stuff
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have heard that pilates is very effective too... you will i am sure see some nice girls in there too... :D
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have heard that pilates is very effective too... you will i am sure see some nice girls in there too... :D
meh... gonna due it at home with my wife...
turns her on when we workout together ;D
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meh... gonna due it at home with my wife...
turns her on when we workout together ;D
;D ;D ;D ;D
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i'm interested in them too... i've been doing inversions for a while now as part of yoga... my only fear is that after 20-30 minutes of hanging upside-down i could get stuck...
What are the results of inversion table exercises (http://www.wordsiseek.com/inversion-table/)? I am going to start this exercise in a weekend. Just wanted to get an idea.
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:)