Columbus Dispatch Article on Arnold Expo

[Johnny Apollo]

It's "appeal to majority" I believe.. but same thing 

Nah,"Majority" would be where most people believe a particular thing so it must be true. An appeal to popularity would be where the supplement is so popular(As he pointed out by the long line) that it MUST work.

Regardless it's fallacious reasoning either way you look at it.

Alot of gullible fools believing something doens't make it true. They advertise the hell out those supplements in the magazines obviously you're going to have alot of gullible monkeys waiting in line to get cake batter.

[llebj]

I appreciate the comments regarding the Dispatch article.  The main focus of the article was to be a review of products and a discussion about whether the claims can be supported by research.  As I read the postings, I see that many of you are concerned about the validity of product claims and realize that some supplements, don't always do what they are intended to do.  That said, the article took a colorful twist with the mention of cake batter.  I was surprised by the high fat content, especially with saturated fat...and was taken by the smell and taste...cake batter.  Do I think the Muscle Milk is cake batter?  NO.   I am aware that cake batter has less protein and it does NOT contain creatine.  Do I think it has a similar taste and smell?  YES. 

I think that Muscle Milk and products like it serve an important purpose--to provide a convenient and dense source of protein and carbohydrate in recovery (although I'd up the carbs a bit in some of them), and supply creatine for power output.  I did not say that Muscle Milk was ill advised...my point was that it had a generous amount of fat, particularly saturated fat...and I was surprised that a historically fat conscious strength trained group would want that much fat in a serving.  I also pointed out that supplements are not the only option; but the products are safe and an option for highly active people in recovery. 

My final thought on the Arnold experience was that most of the individuals in attendence got where they were because of consistent exercise and adequate calories, carbs and protein to support it.  I don't like that some of the supplements, particularly the pills, may not live up to their claims, hence be pricey placebos--that is not fair to the consumer.  This statement, however, did NOT apply to Muscle Milk or protein supplements.  Meal replacements, bars or shakes are useful for those requiring high amounts of calories and convenient sources of protein and carbs.  There are real food options as well...

Don't drink cake batter...it contains raw eggs. 

Jenna Bell-Wilson

[DOGPOOP]

I understand why some supplements get a bad reputation (Muscletech and their over the top marketing)

The reality is supplements are a great way to get a quick meal for those "too busy" to eat "right"  I feel a packet of myoplex in between meals is a great way to maintain a constant level of energy, combat sugar cravings, help with mood stabilization, etc

I honestly believe the majority of Americans would benefit if they consumed supplements (MRP's, protein bars, etc) instead of Arbys, McDonalds, etc

I understand the ads in the magazines can leave a bad taste in some mouths, but I would argue against supplements having little to no value.  Have the brains to recognize bullcrap.  Believe it or not, there are industries where bullcrap is even more rampant (Namely financial services, mortgages, payday loans, the car business in general, etc)  Or, how about infomercials promoting instant abdominals overnight by wearing a sauna belt??  Windsor pilates, Ab-Lounge, Dr Phils Diet book, where does it end?

I read that Columbus Dispatch article, and I thought it was a one sided, narrow minded viewpoint

[BroadStreetBruiser]

Was there a Collaveeta Olive Oil stand at the arnold?

[onlyme]

I don't see a problem with what they did.  Hell more than half the shit the supp companies put out there is bullshit anyway.  These guys have no connection with any of them so they can say what they feel and bascially the truth.  They don't need to kiss ass.  The only thing I see weird about it is they are basically bashing the #1 show that comes to that frozen hell on earth and the main reason the convention center was expanded.  I am pretty sure the tourist industry isn't that town's #1 source of income.  I am pretty sure that city does very well the weekend ofthe ASC.  Why bash a cach cow for the city.  But, they are right in their writing.  And I love Muscle Milk and I love cake batter (cooked of course) so I love their report

[SwingGuru]

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