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Title: Daniel Shaver - Murdered by police officer Philip Mitchell Brailsford
Post by: gh15 on December 08, 2017, 11:49:54 PM
if any of you have a little heart in your body.. you will report this video.. you will be sure that people know about this video.. you will be sure that this Nazi in American police uniform end up in prison or get justice in some form,,

I blame years of corrupt departments under islamo fascist Hussein Obama.. eric holder.. loreta lynch.. james comey.. and many other white color criminals for what you see happening in this video

this innocent young fella passed on..
the unqualified sociopath who murdered him is walking free on American land in the state of Arizona

this is REAL LEGIT VIDEO


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Title: Re: murdered by a sociopath in AMERICAN POLICE UNIFORM
Post by: calfzilla on December 09, 2017, 12:30:24 AM
If that's real then that cop is an asshole and pussy. Glad it wasn't a dog that was shot, I hate when pigs do that. Any news story I can read about this?
Title: Re: murdered by a sociopath in AMERICAN POLICE UNIFORM
Post by: calfzilla on December 09, 2017, 12:34:49 AM
Just read about it. Officer was acquitted lol. He should be in prison but sadly nobody will hear about this or protest because the victim was white.
Title: Re: murdered by a sociopath in AMERICAN POLICE UNIFORM
Post by: Twaddle on December 09, 2017, 12:57:01 AM
He was acquitted, because he did nothing wrong.
Title: Re: murdered by a sociopath in AMERICAN POLICE UNIFORM
Post by: bicepsofsteel on December 09, 2017, 01:29:03 AM
He was acquitted, because he did nothing wrong.

At the least he gave the drunk man terrible instructions.
Title: Re: murdered by a sociopath in AMERICAN POLICE UNIFORM
Post by: Royalty on December 09, 2017, 02:00:00 AM
If that's real then that cop is an asshole and pussy. Glad it wasn't a dog that was shot, I hate when pigs do that. Any news story I can read about this?

The only pussy here is you. Coward.
Title: Re: murdered by a sociopath in AMERICAN POLICE UNIFORM
Post by: rangerwil on December 09, 2017, 02:40:17 AM
He was acquitted, because he did nothing wrong.
Other than the cop delivering bad commands, he did nothing g wrong.
He was told NOT to make a move to the small of his back, but he did it anyway.
Should the cop have waited to get shot himself?

He did put his finger on the trigger numerous times, which makes him appear trigger happy... and he did have "your fucked" printed on the side of the gun.
Shows the mindset of this officer.
Still.. Good shot.
Title: Re: murdered by a sociopath in AMERICAN POLICE UNIFORM
Post by: obsidian on December 09, 2017, 02:41:01 AM
He was acquitted, because he did nothing wrong.
He did three things wrong.

1. He intimidated a fellow white human to the point where he could not follow orders properly because he was scared shitless.
2. He could have walked to him while he was lying on the ground and handcuffed him.
3. He killed a fellow white human. Therefore he is a race traitor. In today's day and age this should not happen.

This fucken POS deserves to die by execution. Fuck him! He better get witness protection because I am sure someone is going to get this cockroach  - karma's a bitch.

I looked at photos of him and he would have made a great bitch in prison based on his feminine physique. He needs to be used like a bitch for betraying his own race.
Title: Re: murdered by a sociopath in AMERICAN POLICE UNIFORM
Post by: obsidian on December 09, 2017, 02:43:49 AM
Other than the cop delivering bad commands, he did nothing g wrong.
He was told NOT to make a move to the small of his back, but he did it anyway.
Should the cop have waited to get shot himself?

He did put his finger on the trigger numerous times, which makes him appear trigger happy... and he did have "your fucked" printed on the side of the gun.
Shows the mindset of this officer.
Still.. Good shot.

Good shot my ass. The guy was laying on the floor for a few minutes still and complying. They could have walked up to him with his hands stretched out on the ground and handcuffed him. Why does he need to crawl to them? How is that any safer for the cops??! They intimidated the poor guy to the point where he was confused and scared shitless and probably tried to pull up his pants out of nervousness. This is not good policing at all. That cop deserves KARMA! Fuck him. He is a cockroach and so are you!

I think in another life that guy would have come out shooting the cop. Better than being killed by a cockroach.
Title: Re: murdered by a sociopath in AMERICAN POLICE UNIFORM
Post by: Simple Simon on December 09, 2017, 03:24:15 AM
his bullets must have had a "use by" date on them, police budgets are tight these days.
Title: Re: murdered by a sociopath in AMERICAN POLICE UNIFORM
Post by: Simple Simon on December 09, 2017, 03:46:24 AM
if any of you have a little heart in your body.. you will report this video.. you will be sure that people know about this video.. you will be sure that this Nazi in American police uniform end up in prison or get justice in some form,,

I blame years of corrupt departments under islamo fascist Hussein Obama.. eric holder.. loreta lynch.. james comey.. and many other white color criminals for what you see happening in this video

this innocent young fella passed on..
the unqualified sociopath who murdered him is walking free on American land in the state of Arizona

this is REAL LEGIT VIDEO


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loj

I wouldnt have though someone as high profile as yourself who was a personal friend of Trump would have time with trivialities like this....dont you have something more important to be getting on with?
Title: Re: murdered by a sociopath in AMERICAN POLICE UNIFORM
Post by: Ropo on December 09, 2017, 04:53:32 AM
He did three things wrong.

1. He intimidated a fellow white human to the point where he could not follow orders properly because he was scared shitless.
2. He could have walked to him while he was lying on the ground and handcuffed him.
3. He killed a fellow white human. Therefore he is a race traitor. In today's day and age this should not happen.

This fucken POS deserves to die by execution. Fuck him! He better get witness protection because I am sure someone is going to get this cockroach  - karma's a bitch.

I looked at photos of him and he would have made a great bitch in prison based on his feminine physique. He needs to be used like a bitch for betraying his own race.

Easy to say, AFTERWARDS. It would be fun to see how you handle that kind of situation, while you haven't no way to know if the guy have a gun and a death wish, or not. If they deliberately shoot these morons just for the fun of killing innocent people, why camera? Why waste so many minutes to shout orders, if the end has been settled already? This guy was seen at the window of the hotel with rifle, which is quite smart move after the shooting in Las Vegas. It seem to me that he got what he was asking.
Title: Re: murdered by a sociopath in AMERICAN POLICE UNIFORM
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on December 09, 2017, 05:17:02 AM
Why does he need to crawl to them? How is that any safer for the cops??!

The officer was clearly wrong, but he had him craw towards them so that he wouldn't be ambushed by someone standing around that corner.

I don't understand why the police would react so intensely to a call of a man showing off a gun in a hotel room? You're not allowed to show off guns? How does this convey any intent of doing something violent?

???
Title: Re: murdered by a sociopath in AMERICAN POLICE UNIFORM
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on December 09, 2017, 05:18:47 AM
Easy to say, AFTERWARDS. It would be fun to see how you handle that kind of situation, while you haven't no way to know if the guy have a gun and a death wish, or not. If they deliberately shoot these morons just for the fun of killing innocent people, why camera? Why waste so many minutes to shout orders, if the end has been settled already? This guy was seen at the window of the hotel with rifle, which is quite smart move after the shooting in Las Vegas. It seem to me that he got what he was asking.

This happened in January of 2016 you ignorant wetback piece of shit.
Title: Re: murdered by a sociopath in AMERICAN POLICE UNIFORM
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on December 09, 2017, 05:34:57 AM
Maybe if dispatch had asked the caller more questions and been more clear in relaying information on the call to the Officers they would not have been so alarmed? ???
Title: Re: murdered by a sociopath in AMERICAN POLICE UNIFORM
Post by: robcguns on December 09, 2017, 05:36:44 AM
That cop is a fucking idiot and a chicken shit.Hes holding an assault rifle and has a skinny little dweeb on the ground.Even if the little dweeb had a gun he could t have done anything.Trigger Happy pussy.Now if the guy was a pedo,murder etc... then ok no big deal but otherwise cop is a CHICKEN SHIT.
Title: Re: murdered by a sociopath in AMERICAN POLICE UNIFORM
Post by: gh15 on December 09, 2017, 05:59:38 AM
ths is straight out murder,,

this = life in prison for first degree not even second

straight out murder in cold blood.. doesn't mater who he murdered white black pink or yellow.. any being you shoot this way = murder in cold blood,, and! and! you can tell from the voice tht this is a serious sociopath similar to scot Peterson.. you do remember little scottie sociopath Peterson who murdered his wife and unborn son.. yesyes back many many years ago in 2003 2004 2005.. when he was sentences to death..  this Nazi sociopath beta weakling wanna be cop deserve same faith.. and since I don't believe in death penalty unless you are a hitler level mass murderer.. this sociopath should rotten in prison for the rest of his life,,

murder
first
degree!

gh15 approved
lion of Judah
Title: Re: murdered by a sociopath in AMERICAN POLICE UNIFORM
Post by: youandme on December 09, 2017, 06:03:18 AM
hope he gets the same fate.
Title: Re: murdered by a sociopath in AMERICAN POLICE UNIFORM
Post by: kh300 on December 09, 2017, 06:09:56 AM
had gun.told not to reach for gun...reached for gun.got shot.
Title: Re: murdered by a sociopath in AMERICAN POLICE UNIFORM
Post by: Ropo on December 09, 2017, 06:22:23 AM
This happened in January of 2016 you ignorant wetback piece of shit.

Really mature and intelligent argumentation, as always. What that have to do with my comment? Nothing, but you need some excuse to cry out those childish insults, just because you know I'm right. You see, facts remain to be facts no matter if you like them or not. Police have right to protect his life by deadly force, and he did just that. One wrong move is enough as always, and you have hundred's of examples per year. Why don't you guys learn from those? Are you stupid or what? If you don't give police reason to shoot, you don't die. It is simple as that. When something like this happen, all you know about it is coloured by media by their own agenda, so you have to use your brains to filter truth out from that crap. If you don't have brains, blame your parents, not me  ;D
Title: Re: murdered by a sociopath in AMERICAN POLICE UNIFORM
Post by: rangerwil on December 09, 2017, 06:26:18 AM
ths is straight out murder...
 doesn't mater who he murdered white black pink or yellow..
If her were pink I'd be more on his side.
Title: Re: murdered by a sociopath in AMERICAN POLICE UNIFORM
Post by: obsidian on December 09, 2017, 06:35:25 AM
Easy to say, AFTERWARDS. It would be fun to see how you handle that kind of situation, while you haven't no way to know if the guy have a gun and a death wish, or not. If they deliberately shoot these morons just for the fun of killing innocent people, why camera? Why waste so many minutes to shout orders, if the end has been settled already? This guy was seen at the window of the hotel with rifle, which is quite smart move after the shooting in Las Vegas. It seem to me that he got what he was asking.
You are a fucking moron ropoo. This guy was killed last year, before the Las Vegas shooting. You fucking idiot!

Did he have a rifle with him in the hallway? NO! Was he motionless on the ground for a few minutes with his arms stretched out complying? YES!

Why is it safer for the officer to ask him to crawl to him than going to the guy lying motionless on the ground with his arms in front of him and handcuffing him? Can your little brain think about that? I don't think so but we can try.

You need to impress me ropoo. So far what I have seen from you on Getbig is that you are numero morono uno! Use your brain you fucking imbecile!
Title: Re: murdered by a sociopath in AMERICAN POLICE UNIFORM
Post by: obsidian on December 09, 2017, 06:38:00 AM
The officer was clearly wrong, but he had him craw towards them so that he wouldn't be ambushed by someone standing around that corner.

I don't understand why the police would react so intensely to a call of a man showing off a gun in a hotel room? You're not allowed to show off guns? How does this convey any intent of doing something violent?

???
How many white guys actually go and shoot cops in a scenario like this? He acted like he was a dindu. You could see from the way the guy was pleading that he was scared shitless. A vigilante should take out this cockroach. Just looking at him with his beta body pisses me the fuck off!
Title: Re: murdered by a sociopath in AMERICAN POLICE UNIFORM
Post by: obsidian on December 09, 2017, 06:39:37 AM
had gun.told not to reach for gun...reached for gun.got shot.
He did not have a gun you fucking idiot! Where did you get that BS from??
Title: Re: murdered by a sociopath in AMERICAN POLICE UNIFORM
Post by: Zillotch on December 09, 2017, 06:47:00 AM
you will report this video.. you will be sure that people know about this video.. you will be sure that this Nazi in American police uniform end up in prison or get justice in some form

first off – there is no justice in this world

second - these are whites... do u not understand what is happening? many will celebrate this, if they see it.
Title: Re: murdered by a sociopath in AMERICAN POLICE UNIFORM
Post by: Simple Simon on December 09, 2017, 06:47:03 AM
he got told multiple times dont reach behind your back, he did it , and got shot.

If he had followed instructions he would still be alive.

Maybe the cop could have gone and cuffed him when he was laid flat out motionless but is that current procedural guidelines.

Someones going to have to look that up because I couldnt really give a fuck.
Title: Re: murdered by a sociopath in AMERICAN POLICE UNIFORM
Post by: Simple Simon on December 09, 2017, 06:47:50 AM
ths is straight out murder,,

this = life in prison for first degree not even second

straight out murder in cold blood.. doesn't mater who he murdered white black pink or yellow.. any being you shoot this way = murder in cold blood,, and! and! you can tell from the voice tht this is a serious sociopath similar to scot Peterson.. you do remember little scottie sociopath Peterson who murdered his wife and unborn son.. yesyes back many many years ago in 2003 2004 2005.. when he was sentences to death..  this Nazi sociopath beta weakling wanna be cop deserve same faith.. and since I don't believe in death penalty unless you are a hitler level mass murderer.. this sociopath should rotten in prison for the rest of his life,,

murder
first
degree!

gh15 approved
lion of Judah

go and look up the definition of murder you moron.
Title: Re: murdered by a sociopath in AMERICAN POLICE UNIFORM
Post by: bgm on December 09, 2017, 06:58:55 AM
American cops are a bunch of corrupt low IQ pussies. That man was straight up murdered.

This is a small dicked cop, and his service rifle:

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/1J2U2MTzK1A/maxresdefault.jpg)

He was itching to use it.

FWIW, the judge WOULD NOT LET THE JURY SEE THE VIDEO because it was too inflammatory ::)

Basically the judge threw the case in the favor of the cop. Any reasonable person knows this is murder.



Title: Re: murdered by a sociopath in AMERICAN POLICE UNIFORM
Post by: LanceD on December 09, 2017, 07:00:59 AM
he supposedly had a pellet gun or rifle showing it out of the window of the hotel.  he would not come out and there were other people in the room.  the officers quit the police force and went to trial recently where he was found innocent.
Title: Re: murdered by a sociopath in AMERICAN POLICE UNIFORM
Post by: rangerwil on December 09, 2017, 07:01:09 AM

FWIW, the judge WOULD NOT LET THE JURY SEE THE VIDEO because it was too inflammatory ::)

Basically the judge threw the case in the favor of the cop. Any reasonable person knows this is murder.

That part I don't get.
This thing never stood a chance in court with a judge like that.
Title: Re: murdered by a sociopath in AMERICAN POLICE UNIFORM
Post by: Zillotch on December 09, 2017, 07:05:11 AM
'fuck white people' -- thats what the majority of the world will gleefully shout... after they stop laughing.

sure... show em the vid  ::)

muh 'justice'... as if  ::)
Title: Re: murdered by a sociopath in AMERICAN POLICE UNIFORM
Post by: che on December 09, 2017, 07:06:02 AM
He was looking for any excuse to shoot
Title: Re: murdered by a sociopath in AMERICAN POLICE UNIFORM
Post by: Chidoman on December 09, 2017, 07:08:42 AM
This shit is truly unreal!!...Karma is a bitch and I hope this pig gets it up the ass by the blackest cock out there, and I'd gladly pay to witness that...trigger happy beta fucker!
Title: Re: murdered by a sociopath in AMERICAN POLICE UNIFORM
Post by: Zillotch on December 09, 2017, 07:15:49 AM
He was looking for any excuse to shoot

place a weapon in the hands of a retard... shit is gonna go sideways eventually.

in the future, this job will be performed by a machine, anyway..... but, thats also gonna go sideways, lol
Title: Re: murdered by a sociopath in AMERICAN POLICE UNIFORM
Post by: Slapper on December 09, 2017, 07:16:35 AM
Who is this MOTHER FUCKING PIG?

Was the name and address publicized?

GOD I HATE FUCKING PIGS!!!!!!!
Title: Re: murdered by a sociopath in AMERICAN POLICE UNIFORM
Post by: Slapper on December 09, 2017, 07:17:52 AM
Who was the judge for this case?

Outing these fuckers so that they are publicly ostracized is a must.
Title: Re: murdered by a sociopath in AMERICAN POLICE UNIFORM
Post by: bgm on December 09, 2017, 07:18:45 AM
The guy was a Pest Exterminator who traveled 3 times a month for work. His pellet guns are in a hard case and he always takes them to his room so they are not stolen from his truck. he met a man and woman and they were having drinks in his room. The Guy asked about the case thought it was a guitar so he took out the pellet gun which also has a scope. They were at the door near the balcony upstairs. A couple in the spa saw what they thought was a rifle with a scope. They told manager he called cops. This was the outcome. The other guy had gone back to his room to get his phone and cops arrived. Fucking disgrace the guy was unarmed and the pellet gun was back locked in its case when police searched the room. No drugs or excessive alcohol in autopsy. THE JURY WAS NOT PERMITTED TO SEE THE VIDEO AND IT WAS NOT ADMITTED INTO EVIDENCE.
Title: Re: murdered by a sociopath in AMERICAN POLICE UNIFORM
Post by: Slapper on December 09, 2017, 07:33:57 AM
This is the PIG:

(https://heavyeditorial.files.wordpress.com/2016/03/philip-mitch-brailsford1.jpg?quality=65&strip=all&strip=all)

And this is the "sugar daddy" judge:

(http://www.superiorcourt.maricopa.gov/JudicialBiographies/images/judgeFosterGeorgeH.jpg)
Title: Re: murdered by a sociopath in AMERICAN POLICE UNIFORM
Post by: Zillotch on December 09, 2017, 08:15:48 AM
this tard shit will be used.... to vilify whites, no matter what. wake up.
Title: Re: murdered by a sociopath in AMERICAN POLICE UNIFORM
Post by: kh300 on December 09, 2017, 08:55:01 AM
Am I watching a different video? He tells him repeatedly not to move his hands or he will be shot. So he takes his hand and puts it behind his back like hes reaching for something.

I'm not saying this man should have been shot, but I'm not saying the officer is guilty either. If you think the cop is guilty how do you explain the sudden movement to his back?
Title: Re: murdered by a sociopath in AMERICAN POLICE UNIFORM
Post by: m8 on December 09, 2017, 09:57:19 AM
Title: Re: murdered by a sociopath in AMERICAN POLICE UNIFORM
Post by: cart@@n on December 09, 2017, 10:57:19 AM
Title: Re: murdered by a sociopath in AMERICAN POLICE UNIFORM
Post by: werewolf operative on December 09, 2017, 11:07:02 AM
Am I watching a different video? He tells him repeatedly not to move his hands or he will be shot. So he takes his hand and puts it behind his back like hes reaching for something.

I'm not saying this man should have been shot, but I'm not saying the officer is guilty either. If you think the cop is guilty how do you explain the sudden movement to his back?


What exactly would he be reaching for with gym shorts half hanging off his ass?
Title: Re: murdered by a sociopath in AMERICAN POLICE UNIFORM
Post by: BB on December 09, 2017, 11:37:53 AM
Usually pro-cop, but this one stinks. That kid was petrified, and try walking on your knees with your legs crossed, arms out/up. It's tough, if you're just a bit off, you fall forward, and the natural inclination is to break your fall with your hands. The hand movement was just him trying to figure out what to do with his hands. They should've left him laying stationary, arms out, legs crossed, and advanced on him to do the cuff up.

Title: Re: murdered by a sociopath in AMERICAN POLICE UNIFORM
Post by: Rambone on December 09, 2017, 11:38:45 AM
Cop must’ve had a small dick and an itchy trigger finger. He mustve really gotten off on his little power trip. He made him do the hokey pokey and then executed him. And I’m usually pro-cop as well. PIP
Title: Re: murdered by a sociopath in AMERICAN POLICE UNIFORM
Post by: Wiggs on December 09, 2017, 11:43:33 AM
I saw this yesterday and this shit wanted to make me cry with the same sense of sadness I have when Hebrews are mowed down innocently. Anyway, one thing to note you guys should take notice on is that the cop barking the orders is not the cop that shot the young man. There were six cops there and only one shot the kid five times. The cop that was shouting the orders was the supervisor.
Title: Re: murdered by a sociopath in AMERICAN POLICE UNIFORM
Post by: Twaddle on December 09, 2017, 11:49:33 AM
American cops are a bunch of corrupt low IQ pussies. That man was straight up murdered.

This is a small dicked cop, and his service rifle:

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/1J2U2MTzK1A/maxresdefault.jpg)

He was itching to use it.

FWIW, the judge WOULD NOT LET THE JURY SEE THE VIDEO because it was too inflammatory ::)

Basically the judge threw the case in the favor of the cop. Any reasonable person knows this is murder.

Where are you getting this info?  Everything I've read, states that the jury watched the same video, and then acquitted the officer.   ???
Title: Re: murdered by a sociopath in AMERICAN POLICE UNIFORM
Post by: Twaddle on December 09, 2017, 11:50:48 AM
The guy was a Pest Exterminator who traveled 3 times a month for work. His pellet guns are in a hard case and he always takes them to his room so they are not stolen from his truck. he met a man and woman and they were having drinks in his room. The Guy asked about the case thought it was a guitar so he took out the pellet gun which also has a scope. They were at the door near the balcony upstairs. A couple in the spa saw what they thought was a rifle with a scope. They told manager he called cops. This was the outcome. The other guy had gone back to his room to get his phone and cops arrived. Fucking disgrace the guy was unarmed and the pellet gun was back locked in its case when police searched the room. No drugs or excessive alcohol in autopsy. THE JURY WAS NOT PERMITTED TO SEE THE VIDEO AND IT WAS NOT ADMITTED INTO EVIDENCE.

Where did you get this from?   ???
Title: Re: murdered by a sociopath in AMERICAN POLICE UNIFORM
Post by: SF1900 on December 09, 2017, 11:52:11 AM
Am I watching a different video? He tells him repeatedly not to move his hands or he will be shot. So he takes his hand and puts it behind his back like hes reaching for something.

I'm not saying this man should have been shot, but I'm not saying the officer is guilty either. If you think the cop is guilty how do you explain the sudden movement to his back?


Research has consistently shown that when people are in a state of emotional dysregulation, verbal comprehension and following orders becomes increasingly more difficult. Clearly, this man was in a state of emotional dysregulation, which was caused by the cop. The cop was barking orders left and right, screaming and yelling, and threatening him--he escalated the situation. It is no surprise the man may have flinched or did not follow orders properly. This really comes down to brain science--when peoples limbic system takes over (emotional part of the brain), the prefrontal cortex (logic and reason) basically "shuts down." As such, following orders, gathering oneself, understanding commands, becomes increasingly more difficult. I mean, the cop is barking a string of orders for minutes at a time, and expects a person who is scared for their life, to comply with every single word. ??? ??? It's unreasonable. Many police districts are now training cops more and more in de-escalation strategies. Some police districts are reporting less lethal force due to de-escalation strategies. Wow, what a surprise--you de-escalate the situation, thus requiring less lethal force.

I know your typical getbig response will be, "BULLSHIT. The guy should have just followed orders." Yes, according to the procedures of law officers, this is correct. However, in reality, its unreasonable and a poor strategy to use, which is why police districts are now enforcing de-escalation strategies. They are finally realizing that their current strategies are unreasonable and that there are better ways to deal with erratic people.

Again, Ill await the typical getbig responses:

--the guy should have just followed orders. He didn't follow orders, therefore he got what he deserved.
--shut up, you stupid liberal.
--this guy should have just picked himself up by his bootstraps.
--its this guys fault for taking out his pellet guns.
--etc, etc, etc, etc.

Title: Re: murdered by a sociopath in AMERICAN POLICE UNIFORM
Post by: Wiggs on December 09, 2017, 11:53:44 AM
Research has consistently shown that when people are in a state of emotional dysregulation, verbal comprehension and following orders becomes increasingly more difficult. Clearly, this man was in a state of emotional dysregulation, which was caused by the cop. The cop was barking orders left and right, screaming and yelling, and threatening him--he escalated the situation. It is no surprise the man may have flinched or did not follow orders properly. This really comes down to brain science--when peoples limbic system takes over (emotional part of the brain), the prefrontal cortex (logic and reason) basically "shuts down." As such, following orders, gathering oneself, understanding commands, becomes increasingly more difficult. I mean, the cop is barking a string of orders for minutes at a time, and expects a person who is scared for their life, to comply with every single word. ??? ??? It's unreasonable. Many police districts are now training cops more and more in de-escalation strategies. Some police districts are reporting less lethal force due to de-escalation strategies. Wow, what a surprise--you de-escalate the situation, thus requiring less lethal force.

I know your typical getbig response will be, "BULLSHIT. The guy should have just followed orders." Yes, according to the procedures of law officers, this is correct. However, in reality, its unreasonable and a poor strategy to use, which is why police districts are now enforcing de-escalation strategies. They are finally realizing that their current strategies are unreasonable and that there are better ways to deal with erratic people.

Again, Ill await the typical getbig responses:

--the guy should have just followed orders. He didn't follow orders, therefore he got what he deserved.
--shut up, you stupid liberal.
--this guy should have just picked himself up by his bootstraps.
--its this guys fault for taking out his pellet guns.
--etc, etc, etc, etc.



Keep in mind he was inebriated as well. Which certainly plays a part.
Title: Re: murdered by a sociopath in AMERICAN POLICE UNIFORM
Post by: SF1900 on December 09, 2017, 12:00:10 PM
Keep in mind he was inebriated as well. Which certainly plays a part.

Ahhhh, thanks for the information.

Even so, its clear that barking orders is not going to de-escalate the situations. Its going to increase the chances that people become emotionally dysregulated, thus making it more difficult to follow orders. I am glad that police districts are finally starting to implement other strategies.
Title: Re: murdered by a sociopath in AMERICAN POLICE UNIFORM
Post by: MP on December 09, 2017, 12:10:44 PM
Damn, that didn't end well at all.
Title: Re: murdered by a sociopath in AMERICAN POLICE UNIFORM
Post by: WalterWhite on December 09, 2017, 12:37:27 PM
Who was the judge for this case?

Outing these fuckers so that they are publicly ostracized is a must.

The jury is to blame on this one.

Can't you see what a deadly threat this guy was??? ::)
Title: Re: murdered by a sociopath in AMERICAN POLICE UNIFORM
Post by: The Ugly on December 09, 2017, 12:52:28 PM
Horrible injustice here. The most ridiculous, unnecessarily complicated commands I've ever heard. A calm, sober head would botch that nonsense. Dept. needs a goddamn policy rework for sure.
Title: Re: murdered by a sociopath in AMERICAN POLICE UNIFORM
Post by: SF1900 on December 09, 2017, 12:55:26 PM
Horrible injustice here. The most ridiculous, unnecessarily complicated commands I've ever heard. A calm, sober head would botch that nonsense. Dept. needs a goddamn policy rework for sure.

The Ugly, look at my comment on the previous page.

His unnecessary, complicated commands increased this guys emotional dysregulation. No wonder he had difficulty following orders. Who in their right mind gives a string of orders like that? This guy was a horribly trained cop.  :-\ :-\
Title: Re: murdered by a sociopath in AMERICAN POLICE UNIFORM
Post by: The Ugly on December 09, 2017, 12:56:29 PM
The jury is to blame on this one.

Can't you see what a deadly threat this guy was??? ::)

Officer Quickfinger maybe, too.
Title: Re: murdered by a sociopath in AMERICAN POLICE UNIFORM
Post by: The Ugly on December 09, 2017, 01:03:56 PM
The Ugly, look at my comment on the previous page.

His unnecessary, complicated commands increased this guys emotional dysregulation. No wonder he had difficulty following orders. Who in their right mind gives a string of orders like that? This guy was a horribly trained cop.  :-\ :-\

Agreed, no-win for the perp.

He's prone, arms extended, rifles trained - CUFF THE FUCKER. Sundance Kid could've been taken at that point.  
Title: Re: murdered by a sociopath in AMERICAN POLICE UNIFORM
Post by: SF1900 on December 09, 2017, 01:09:23 PM
Agreed, no-win for the perp.

He's prone, arms extended, rifles trained - CUFF THE FUCKER. Sundance Kid could've been taken at that point.  

An investigator stated that the officer should have arrested him once he was on the ground. The cop just kept sounding off a string of incoherent, ridiculous commands. Geez, one wonders how guys like him pass the academy!
Title: Re: murdered by a sociopath in AMERICAN POLICE UNIFORM
Post by: Megalodon on December 09, 2017, 01:16:35 PM
Ordering a crawl with "hands in the air" doesn't jibe with the dictionary definition.

crawl: (of a person) move forward on the hands and knees or by dragging the body close to the ground.
Title: Re: murdered by a sociopath in AMERICAN POLICE UNIFORM
Post by: Eric2 on December 09, 2017, 01:25:35 PM
Jeezus.   Hearing that fucking cop yelling those orders reminded me of my asshole dad. Used to do that shit to me in the hallway when I was not even ten then slap and kick my on the ground repeatedly so I could not get back up. SF1900 is absolutely right on this one.
Title: Re: murdered by a sociopath in AMERICAN POLICE UNIFORM
Post by: The Ugly on December 09, 2017, 01:27:47 PM
An investigator stated that the officer should have arrested him once he was on the ground. The cop just kept sounding off a string of incoherent, ridiculous commands. Geez, one wonders how guys like him pass the academy!

Absolutely. Heard the voice and shooter are different cops, though.
Title: Re: murdered by a sociopath in AMERICAN POLICE UNIFORM
Post by: The Ugly on December 09, 2017, 01:29:25 PM
Ordering a crawl with "hands in the air" doesn't jibe with the dictionary definition.

crawl: (of a person) move forward on the hands and knees or by dragging the body close to the ground.

Can't imagine that was policy.
Title: Re: murdered by a sociopath in AMERICAN POLICE UNIFORM
Post by: Megalodon on December 09, 2017, 01:43:12 PM
Can't imagine that was policy.

Doesn't seem like it would be. She interpreted the unclear commands as 'knee walking with hands overhead' and survived.  
Title: Re: murdered by a sociopath in AMERICAN POLICE UNIFORM
Post by: SF1900 on December 09, 2017, 02:05:18 PM
Jeezus.   Hearing that fucking cop yelling those orders reminded me of my asshole dad. Used to do that shit to me in the hallway when I was not even ten then slap and kick my on the ground repeatedly so I could not get back up. SF1900 is absolutely right on this one.

For a change!  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: murdered by a sociopath in AMERICAN POLICE UNIFORM
Post by: SF1900 on December 09, 2017, 02:05:55 PM
Absolutely. Heard the voice and shooter are different cops, though.

Oh geez! So, two cops who don't know what they are doing.  ??? ???
Title: Re: murdered by a sociopath in AMERICAN POLICE UNIFORM
Post by: mazrim on December 09, 2017, 02:15:19 PM


He's prone, arms extended, rifles trained - CUFF THE FUCKER. Sundance Kid could've been taken at that point.  
Not Butch, though.
Title: Re: murdered by a sociopath in AMERICAN POLICE UNIFORM
Post by: Wiggs on December 09, 2017, 02:18:35 PM
Agreed, no-win for the perp.

He's prone, arms extended, rifles trained - CUFF THE FUCKER. Sundance Kid could've been taken at that point.  

Why is he a fucker or is that a term of endearment?
Title: Re: murdered by a sociopath in AMERICAN POLICE UNIFORM
Post by: Fortress on December 09, 2017, 02:40:02 PM
Equally good arguments on both sides.

Just a bad scene.
Title: Re: murdered by a sociopath in AMERICAN POLICE UNIFORM
Post by: The Ugly on December 09, 2017, 02:46:32 PM
Why is he a fucker?

 = dude
Title: Re: murdered by a sociopath in AMERICAN POLICE UNIFORM
Post by: sync pulse on December 09, 2017, 02:49:40 PM
It's not just pellet guns...I saw a photographer from the Houston Chronicle...way before the terrorism scare...get hassled over setting up a 1600mm lens onto a tripod...

He was setting up to photograph the full moon rise.  
Title: Re: murdered by a sociopath in AMERICAN POLICE UNIFORM
Post by: WalterWhite on December 09, 2017, 03:10:23 PM
Horrible injustice here. The most ridiculous, unnecessarily complicated commands I've ever heard. A calm, sober head would botch that nonsense. Dept. needs a goddamn policy rework for sure.

I'm still vexed that the jury could not get this one right. :-\ 
Title: Re: murdered by a sociopath in AMERICAN POLICE UNIFORM
Post by: Wiggs on December 09, 2017, 03:22:19 PM
I'm still vexed that the jury could not get this one right. :-\ 

x2....horrible.
Title: Re: murdered by a sociopath in AMERICAN POLICE UNIFORM
Post by: kh300 on December 09, 2017, 04:01:10 PM
Research has consistently shown that when people are in a state of emotional dysregulation, verbal comprehension and following orders becomes increasingly more difficult. Clearly, this man was in a state of emotional dysregulation, which was caused by the cop. The cop was barking orders left and right, screaming and yelling, and threatening him--he escalated the situation. It is no surprise the man may have flinched or did not follow orders properly. This really comes down to brain science--when peoples limbic system takes over (emotional part of the brain), the prefrontal cortex (logic and reason) basically "shuts down." As such, following orders, gathering oneself, understanding commands, becomes increasingly more difficult. I mean, the cop is barking a string of orders for minutes at a time, and expects a person who is scared for their life, to comply with every single word. ??? ??? It's unreasonable. Many police districts are now training cops more and more in de-escalation strategies. Some police districts are reporting less lethal force due to de-escalation strategies. Wow, what a surprise--you de-escalate the situation, thus requiring less lethal force.

I know your typical getbig response will be, "BULLSHIT. The guy should have just followed orders." Yes, according to the procedures of law officers, this is correct. However, in reality, its unreasonable and a poor strategy to use, which is why police districts are now enforcing de-escalation strategies. They are finally realizing that their current strategies are unreasonable and that there are better ways to deal with erratic people.

Again, Ill await the typical getbig responses:

--the guy should have just followed orders. He didn't follow orders, therefore he got what he deserved.
--shut up, you stupid liberal.
--this guy should have just picked himself up by his bootstraps.
--its this guys fault for taking out his pellet guns.
--etc, etc, etc, etc.



Bullshit. The guy should have followed orders..

No I'm not defending the cop, and he deserved to loose his job. They all made the situation worse then it was. One of the 5 should have just walked up to him and handcuffed him. However the cop didnt commit murder either. how many times did the guy reached to his back?  Justified shooting?no. Murder?no. Just a fucked up situation.

The girl had no problems. It wasnt that he wasnt following orders. It was that he kept reaching for his waistband.
Title: Re: murdered by a sociopath in AMERICAN POLICE UNIFORM
Post by: Slapper on December 09, 2017, 04:05:36 PM
Officer Quickfinger maybe, too.

No, it was Officer Triggerhappy.
Title: Re: murdered by a sociopath in AMERICAN POLICE UNIFORM
Post by: SF1900 on December 09, 2017, 04:07:03 PM
Bullshit. The guy should have followed orders..

No I'm not defending the cop, and he deserved to loose his job. They all made the situation worse then it was. One of the 5 should have just walked up to him and handcuffed him. However the cop didnt commit murder either. how many times did the guy reached to his back?  Justified shooting?no. Murder?no. Just a fucked up situation.

The girl had no problems. It wasnt that he wasnt following orders. It was that he kept reaching for his waistband.

Of course, you will ignore all the science because it doesn't fit with your opinion. Typical getbig. Either way, its shitty procedure, which is why many police districts are changing the way they do things. They realize that when people are extremely dysregulated, it is way more difficult for them to follow orders. But, MUH OPINION!!!

Carry on.
Title: Re: murdered by a sociopath in AMERICAN POLICE UNIFORM
Post by: Slapper on December 09, 2017, 04:13:46 PM
Bullshit. The guy should have followed orders..

No I'm not defending the cop, and he deserved to loose his job. They all made the situation worse then it was. One of the 5 should have just walked up to him and handcuffed him. However the cop didnt commit murder either. how many times did the guy reached to his back?  Justified shooting?no. Murder?no. Just a fucked up situation.

The girl had no problems. It wasnt that he wasnt following orders. It was that he kept reaching for his waistband.

The easiest, most humane and understandable reaction on the part of the pigs would've been to go swat on the guy and put the cuffs on him. Shooting someone should be option 15, yet American pigs seems to use it as option 1 way too often.

I have ZERO faith in pigs + the judicial system.


Title: Re: murdered by a sociopath in AMERICAN POLICE UNIFORM
Post by: Slapper on December 09, 2017, 04:15:26 PM
I honestly wish the worst for all those pigs, their families (including little kids) and anyone related to them. As well as the fucking tool of a judge.
Title: Re: murdered by a sociopath in AMERICAN POLICE UNIFORM
Post by: kh300 on December 09, 2017, 04:15:58 PM
Of course, you will ignore all the science because it doesn't fit with your opinion. Typical getbig. Either way, its shitty procedure, which is why many police districts are changing the way they do things. They realize that when people are extremely dysregulated, it is way more difficult for them to follow orders. But, MUH OPINION!!!

Carry on.

yes I agree, the situation should have been handled differently. his only order should have been lay down with your hands out. Again, it wasnt that he wasnt following orders, it was that he kept reaching for his waistband. Given the events that led up to this their was not any evidence for criminal negligence. It was a bad shooting but it wasnt murder.
Title: Re: murdered by a sociopath in AMERICAN POLICE UNIFORM
Post by: SF1900 on December 09, 2017, 04:16:30 PM
The easiest, most humane and understandable reaction on the part of the pigs would've been to go swat on the guy and put the cuffs on him. Shooting someone should be option 15, yet American pigs seems to use it as option 1 way too often.

I have ZERO faith in pigs + the judicial system.




The investigator already stated that the cop was wrong for not putting the cuffs on him much sooner. The cop then rattled off a strong of incoherent, gibberish. Ridiculous. Cop is to blame.
Title: Re: murdered by a sociopath in AMERICAN POLICE UNIFORM
Post by: Slapper on December 09, 2017, 04:20:18 PM
The investigator already stated that the cop was wrong for not putting the cuffs on him much sooner. The cop then rattled off a strong of incoherent, gibberish. Ridiculous. Cop is to blame.

Dude, even if they suspected the worst and had enough reason... why, WHY must they always murder the victim? Why not just shoot him/her on the hand that "seems" to reaching for the gun?

I'm no sniper but... that close? Are you kidding me? Shooting fish in a barrel.
Title: Re: murdered by a sociopath in AMERICAN POLICE UNIFORM
Post by: QuietYou on December 09, 2017, 04:25:23 PM
Bottom line is if you have to act like this cop. You SHOULD NOT be a cop. You don't get into the police force to be selfish and keep yourself as safe as possible at the expense of others. You keep OTHERS as safe as possible at the expense of you. Even if that guy did have a gun (Which he didn't) things should have been handled much more appropriately and less volatile. By the way, the guy was extremely drunk which is also an extremely devastating thing to be happening while you're trying to grasp your inhibitions but you just can't. I think that explains the sudden movements.

Is that really the fucking median? 1000 assault rifles shooting at you or nothing? They can't just have a taser or whatever? Fuck.
Title: Re: murdered by a sociopath in AMERICAN POLICE UNIFORM
Post by: SF1900 on December 09, 2017, 04:30:25 PM
Dude, even if they suspected the worst and had enough reason... why, WHY must they always murder the victim? Why not just shoot him/her on the hand that "seems" to reaching for the gun?

I'm no sniper but... that close? Are you kidding me? Shooting fish in a barrel.

Even more so, why is someone like him a cop? He seems like the type that is scared of his own shadow.

Cops should be able to hold themselves together in times of critical moments--on average, they should be better than the average citizen in regulating their emotions. However, it seems like many cops are more scared than the average citizen. It makes a recipe for disaster. Its baffling how guys like this are becoming cops.  :-\
Title: Re: murdered by a sociopath in AMERICAN POLICE UNIFORM
Post by: Simple Simon on December 09, 2017, 04:35:59 PM
I honestly wish the worst for all those pigs, their families (including little kids) and anyone related to them. As well as the fucking tool of a judge.
so if one of your relatives kills someone its OK to kill you?
Title: Re: murdered by a sociopath in AMERICAN POLICE UNIFORM
Post by: BB on December 09, 2017, 04:48:56 PM
Even more so, why is someone like him a cop? He seems like the type that is scared of his own shadow.

Cops should be able to hold themselves together in times of critical moments--on average, they should be better than the average citizen in regulating their emotions. However, it seems like many cops are more scared than the average citizen. It makes a recipe for disaster. Its baffling how guys like this are becoming cops.  :-\

The officer seems like maybe he was living in his dad's shadow. The father had a lengthy police and military career, and is now a lawyer. Just a little bit before he joined the police, he was a trying to be an actor -

(https://heavyeditorial.files.wordpress.com/2016/03/12771824_1720906591466339_5875572214303016960_o.jpg?quality=65&strip=all&strip=all).

Next thing you know, within a year or so, he's a tatted up pistolero, who smokes this guy.
Title: Re: murdered by a sociopath in AMERICAN POLICE UNIFORM
Post by: SF1900 on December 09, 2017, 05:01:18 PM
The officer seems like maybe he was living in his dad's shadow. The father had a lengthy police and military career, and is now a lawyer. Just a little bit before he joined the police, he was a trying to be an actor -

(https://heavyeditorial.files.wordpress.com/2016/03/12771824_1720906591466339_5875572214303016960_o.jpg?quality=65&strip=all&strip=all).

Next thing you know, within a year or so, he's a tatted up pistolero, who smokes this guy.

Damn, his father must be disappointed!  :-\ :-\
Title: Re: murdered by a sociopath in AMERICAN POLICE UNIFORM
Post by: chess315 on December 09, 2017, 05:02:01 PM
The officer seems like maybe he was living in his dad's shadow. The father had a lengthy police and military career, and is now a lawyer. Just a little bit before he joined the police, he was a trying to be an actor -

(https://heavyeditorial.files.wordpress.com/2016/03/12771824_1720906591466339_5875572214303016960_o.jpg?quality=65&strip=all&strip=all).

Next thing you know, within a year or so, he's a tatted up pistolero, who smokes this guy.
he's small to probably little guy syndrome but he has to be a coward to be that scared of s guy laying like that I look for him to get time
Title: Re: murdered by a sociopath in AMERICAN POLICE UNIFORM
Post by: gh15 on December 09, 2017, 08:13:50 PM
The easiest, most humane and understandable reaction on the part of the pigs would've been to go swat on the guy and put the cuffs on him. Shooting someone should be option 15, yet American pigs seems to use it as option 1 way too often.

I have ZERO faith in pigs + the judicial system.




correct,,

its not all like that.. its just in America of billy cigar fingering Clinton.. bush the maniac infantile "I only want to make papa happy" son and the worst of all the islamo fascist son of 1000 whores muslim Kenyan Hussein Obama.. in their America.. the cops became gods.. instead of the military to be gods.. the no one cops became god that in every other country are nothing,, \

in other countrys yo ucan go out of yoru car and argue with a cop.. in America of 2017 you wil most likely be murdered by the cop..

this is years upon years of eric racist holder and loreta fat racist lynch and white color criminal comey and deep state muller and the list is long as the day is long.. but this the result  of years upon years of unqualified people in position they were never meant to be in

now with president trump in charge it wont be like this any longer but it takes time.. as I always say it takes time.. it took us 9 months to get rid of Hussein Obama fascist left overs.. we still not done.. we will be done by march 2018,, which is 14 months since we came into office but we get the job done,,

this should be federally prosecuted the murderer should be put in prison for life,, infact I would much prefer him getting beaten up with no mercy till he pass on,, tht would be better punishment but in a democracy where rule of law prevail he should be in prison for life,,


gh15 approved
lion of Judah
Title: Re: murdered by a sociopath in AMERICAN POLICE UNIFORM
Post by: WalterWhite on December 09, 2017, 09:51:07 PM
correct,,

this should be federally prosecuted the murderer should be put in prison for life,, infact I would much prefer him getting beaten up with no mercy till he pass on,, tht would be better punishment but in a democracy where rule of law prevail he should be in prison for life,,


gh15 approved
 

Could not agree with you more. If that was my son murdered I would end up doing life in prison for what I would do to that POS ex cop.  
Title: Re: murdered by a sociopath in AMERICAN POLICE UNIFORM
Post by: Ropo on December 10, 2017, 12:36:25 AM
You are a fucking moron ropoo. This guy was killed last year, before the Las Vegas shooting. You fucking idiot!

Did he have a rifle with him in the hallway? NO! Was he motionless on the ground for a few minutes with his arms stretched out complying? YES!

Why is it safer for the officer to ask him to crawl to him than going to the guy lying motionless on the ground with his arms in front of him and handcuffing him? Can your little brain think about that? I don't think so but we can try.

You need to impress me ropoo. So far what I have seen from you on Getbig is that you are numero morono uno! Use your brain you fucking imbecile!

So you are saying that pointing a gun out from the window of  the hotel is just another little joke in USA, and police should laugh at that rather than arrest the moron? If you have seen the video, it is clear that this moron didn't obey the commands in a literal sense, and get killed because of that. It is obvious that there is dozens of different ways to do this kind of arrest, but this is what happen, and this is why the moron get killed. How exactly police could know what this moron try to grab from his pants? Just look calmly while moron point the gun to your face and shoot, and then shoot back if you can? There is very little time to do anything, so to save your own life you have to shoot before the moron have a gun in his hand. There is nothing more in this matter. Yet another moron who didn't manage to obey orders while his life depend on it.
Title: Re: murdered by a sociopath in AMERICAN POLICE UNIFORM
Post by: Ropo on December 10, 2017, 12:44:29 AM
He was looking for any excuse to shoot

Really? Ok. But explain to me why after more than 1000 yearly "killed by the police"- example cases this moron give him that excuse? Why these people never learn it? There must be a reason for that??
Title: Re: murdered by a sociopath in AMERICAN POLICE UNIFORM
Post by: Ropo on December 10, 2017, 12:50:23 AM
Am I watching a different video? He tells him repeatedly not to move his hands or he will be shot. So he takes his hand and puts it behind his back like hes reaching for something.

I'm not saying this man should have been shot, but I'm not saying the officer is guilty either. If you think the cop is guilty how do you explain the sudden movement to his back?


People with brains see there just what you saw, the simple truth. People with no brains at all see there what ever fit in their prejudices, and because majority of the users of the internet have no brains at all, there will be lot of arguing about this shooting, as always..  ;D
Title: Re: murdered by a sociopath in AMERICAN POLICE UNIFORM
Post by: Parker on December 10, 2017, 01:07:34 AM
Dude, even if they suspected the worst and had enough reason... why, WHY must they always murder the victim? Why not just shoot him/her on the hand that "seems" to reaching for the gun?

I'm no sniper but... that close? Are you kidding me? Shooting fish in a barrel.

Dude, this ain't the movies, where a sharpshooter can shoot someone in the hand. Be realistic. Look at how far that hand was, and look at how small of a target a hand is. Also take a look at the gun the officer had.

I honestly wish the worst for all those pigs, their families (including little kids) and anyone related to them. As well as the fucking tool of a judge.
You do realize that this was a jury trial, right? That's right, you didn't realize that.
Title: Re: murdered by a sociopath in AMERICAN POLICE UNIFORM
Post by: Marty Champions on December 10, 2017, 03:51:57 AM
the victim was reaching
cop was worried about possible ambush from hotel room

cop shouldve put knee on victims back then cuff him while other officer has gun ready at door

very sad for victim he fucked up by reaching

was he selling steroids?
Title: Re: murdered by a sociopath in AMERICAN POLICE UNIFORM
Post by: dj181 on December 10, 2017, 03:59:05 AM
you got to be strong if you want to survive

Title: Re: murdered by a sociopath in AMERICAN POLICE UNIFORM
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on December 10, 2017, 04:32:59 AM
So you are saying that pointing a gun out from the window of  the hotel is just another little joke in USA, and police should laugh at that rather than arrest the moron? If you have seen the video, it is clear that this moron didn't obey the commands in a literal sense, and get killed because of that. It is obvious that there is dozens of different ways to do this kind of arrest, but this is what happen, and this is why the moron get killed. How exactly police could know what this moron try to grab from his pants? Just look calmly while moron point the gun to your face and shoot, and then shoot back if you can? There is very little time to do anything, so to save your own life you have to shoot before the moron have a gun in his hand. There is nothing more in this matter. Yet another moron who didn't manage to obey orders while his life depend on it.

Shut your cock sucker, no one cares about your irrational fear of guns.  ;D
Title: Re: murdered by a sociopath in AMERICAN POLICE UNIFORM
Post by: mazrim on December 10, 2017, 05:27:37 AM
He started out well. Spoke to them clearly/step by step and like they were children (in a good way) to make sure they understood.
Did not end well. The guy was clearly confused when he made him continue to cross his legs and he put his hands behind him in a manner you would when you would get handcuffed. Went downhill from there. Guy being drunk was the issue but also claimed he wasn't.

Looks awful overall but being a cop is rough. I don't think I would react like that considering you have a partner with you and judging by the weeping of the individual, etc.

Title: Re: murdered by a sociopath in AMERICAN POLICE UNIFORM
Post by: oldgolds on December 10, 2017, 06:20:50 AM
So you are saying that pointing a gun out from the window of  the hotel is just another little joke in USA, and police should laugh at that rather than arrest the moron? If you have seen the video, it is clear that this moron didn't obey the commands in a literal sense, and get killed because of that. It is obvious that there is dozens of different ways to do this kind of arrest, but this is what happen, and this is why the moron get killed. How exactly police could know what this moron try to grab from his pants? Just look calmly while moron point the gun to your face and shoot, and then shoot back if you can? There is very little time to do anything, so to save your own life you have to shoot before the moron have a gun in his hand. There is nothing more in this matter. Yet another moron who didn't manage to obey orders while his life depend on it.
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Cops have a tough job....I stand up for them and not the assholes of this World....I wouldn't mind if the cops started shooting all of the lowlifes causing problems...Most of the people bitching about cops probably have arrest records and are lowlifes also...
Title: Re: murdered by a sociopath in AMERICAN POLICE UNIFORM
Post by: Twaddle on December 10, 2017, 06:31:11 AM
Moral of this story:

Don't get drunk and start pointing a pellet rifle off of your hotel balcony.   :-\
Title: Re: murdered by a sociopath in AMERICAN POLICE UNIFORM
Post by: seCrawler on December 10, 2017, 06:45:22 AM
The law expects civilians to remain calm even when police  ::)  don't  
Title: Re: murdered by a sociopath in AMERICAN POLICE UNIFORM
Post by: gh15 on December 10, 2017, 08:10:15 AM
this is a murder

for anyone to justify this murder put them in the same category of hitler,, hitler hetchmens and hitler gestapo,, that include everyone from gebbles himmler and eichmann down to the locals  all tru and on to the rest of the 20th and 21st century where we are now with disgusting islamo fascists a result of Hussein Obama the son of 1000 whores police state.. that includes the deep state and its propaganda media which is indu islamofile fareed zakaria.. lol and bunch of neo feminist fascists in female bodys..

if you cant see the first degree murder here then you deserve the disgusting police force you created in America along the last 20 years.. and rest assure this is a result of everything that is wrong! in America

and im telling you this as someone who have a lot of control over! the law,,

this is first degree murder
this = life in prison

America of Hussein Obama son of 1000 whores was corrupt beyond belief from the chief comey the deep state white color criminal.. down to the macho beta wanna be like ths white sociopath wanna be cop,,


life in prison with possibility of parol down the road.. but verdict should alwys be life in prison in such first degree murder,,

gh15 approved
lion of Judah
Title: Re: murdered by a sociopath in AMERICAN POLICE UNIFORM
Post by: dj181 on December 10, 2017, 08:14:58 AM
15

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Posted a cool ass rock tune and a pec pic

Sexy hot pecs I got

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Title: Re: murdered by a sociopath in AMERICAN POLICE UNIFORM
Post by: Slapper on December 10, 2017, 09:01:10 AM
Dude, this ain't the movies, where a sharpshooter can shoot someone in the hand. Be realistic. Look at how far that hand was, and look at how small of a target a hand is. Also take a look at the gun the officer had.

Shoot him in the hand, the ass, the cock, the balls or any other non-critical part of his body.

Quote
You do realize that this was a jury trial, right? That's right, you didn't realize that.

I did you moron. My beef was with the judge who did not allow for the recording to be part of the proceedings. Had he allowed it to be part of the trial, the cop surely would've been handed maximum sentence.
Title: Re: murdered by a sociopath in AMERICAN POLICE UNIFORM
Post by: Slapper on December 10, 2017, 09:11:16 AM
so if one of your relatives kills someone its OK to kill you?

None of my relatives have killed anyone.

Look, if ANYONE here thinks these trigger-happy cops are innocent victims of a crude world then you have your head up your ass.

These pigs come with emotional baggage the likes one can only learn in a fucked up family where all types of mental disorders come to the surface as if it were normal.


Title: Re: murdered by a sociopath in AMERICAN POLICE UNIFORM
Post by: Elvis_McCartney on December 10, 2017, 10:11:01 AM

So, seeing how he was found innocent, is there any other avenue other than a civil suit that can be handed down to him now?

Or did he simply get away with murder scot-free?
Title: Re: murdered by a sociopath in AMERICAN POLICE UNIFORM
Post by: Twaddle on December 10, 2017, 10:28:51 AM
Shoot him in the hand, the ass, the cock, the balls or any other non-critical part of his body.

I did you moron. My beef was with the judge who did not allow for the recording to be part of the proceedings. Had he allowed it to be part of the trial, the cop surely would've been handed maximum sentence.

The judge did allow the video.  The jury did watch the video.  I think you're mistaken.
Title: Re: murdered by a sociopath in AMERICAN POLICE UNIFORM
Post by: Simple Simon on December 10, 2017, 10:33:36 AM
None of my relatives have killed anyone.

Look, if ANYONE here thinks these trigger-happy cops are innocent victims of a crude world then you have your head up your ass.

These pigs come with emotional baggage the likes one can only learn in a fucked up family where all types of mental disorders come to the surface as if it were normal.




No, you "look" , just answer the question.

Do you think you should be held accountable for your family members actions.

You made a stupid fucking statement and I just want you to acknowledge the fact.
Title: Re: murdered by a sociopath in AMERICAN POLICE UNIFORM
Post by: Parker on December 10, 2017, 10:49:42 AM
Shoot him in the hand, the ass, the cock, the balls or any other non-critical part of his body.

I did you moron. My beef was with the judge who did not allow for the recording to be part of the proceedings. Had he allowed it to be part of the trial, the cop surely would've been handed maximum sentence.
How does one do that? Not all officers are trained snipers. Furthermore, try doing that with a handgun yards away. Or try doing what you suggested with an AR-15. It doesn't work like that. You ask for what you see in the movies. Which is just that, the movies.

Someone already answered the part about the vid. Also remember the officer has a defense attorney as well.
There is no "surely" about what would have happened.

Title: Re: murdered by a sociopath in AMERICAN POLICE UNIFORM
Post by: Slapper on December 10, 2017, 06:45:00 PM
No, you "look" , just answer the question.

Do you think you should be held accountable for your family members actions.

You made a stupid fucking statement and I just want you to acknowledge the fact.

I did answer the question. Just because it's not what you want to hear doesn't mean it's not a response.

The point I was trying to make is that the pig's kids should be put under the same emotional stress and void that Daniel Shaver's kids WILL be put under until the day he dies. Universal justice.

To this day, how a frigging judge can look at the scene of the crime, with multiple cops pointing their guns and riffles at a cooperating person and then claim that he thought he was reaching for a gun... and then actually get acquitted is just mind-boggling to me. How this PIG walked off and the group of fucking PIGS that accompanied him actually got off too makes my blood boil.
Title: Re: murdered by a sociopath in AMERICAN POLICE UNIFORM
Post by: Slapper on December 10, 2017, 06:45:49 PM
How does one do that? Not all officers are trained snipers. Furthermore, try doing that with a handgun yards away. Or try doing what you suggested with an AR-15. It doesn't work like that. You ask for what you see in the movies. Which is just that, the movies.

Someone already answered the part about the vid. Also remember the officer has a defense attorney as well.
There is no "surely" about what would have happened.

Well, we don't know because they fucking killed him!
Title: Re: murdered by a sociopath in AMERICAN POLICE UNIFORM
Post by: gh15 on December 10, 2017, 10:44:13 PM
I did answer the question. Just because it's not what you want to hear doesn't mean it's not a response.

The point I was trying to make is that the pig's kids should be put under the same emotional stress and void that Daniel Shaver's kids WILL be put under until the day he dies. Universal justice.

To this day, how a frigging judge can look at the scene of the crime, with multiple cops pointing their guns and riffles at a cooperating person and then claim that he thought he was reaching for a gun... and then actually get acquitted is just mind-boggling to me. How this PIG walked off and the group of fucking PIGS that accompanied him actually got off too makes my blood boil.

first of all he is not a pig.. you give pigs bad name.. pigs can be cute lovely pets.. stinky at times yes but still million times better.. kinder.. and more intelligent than that white trash beta in uniform

second,, this white trash sociopath kid cop.. with the disgusting alpha tattoos on that still coudnt make him into a legit alpha.. that disguting white wanna be cop should NEVER! EVER! have human children given to him to raise.. not his own and not others.. no beings what so ever should be raised or live with that sociopathic son of a whore

thirdly,, he should be beatedn up mercilesly by.. but since its America you talking about it cant happen because its too politically correct.. but that cop in any other country would have been beaten up to a point he woundt have arms and legs to utilize after,, infact in many countrys her would have been beaten to a point of passing on,,



murder! first! degree!

life in prison!

gh15 approved
lion of Judah
Title: Re: Daniel Shaver - Murdered by police officer Philip Mitchell Brailsford
Post by: Nails on December 11, 2017, 04:13:13 PM
The Office of the Peace weapon used to kill the kid


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Title: Re: Daniel Shaver - Murdered by police officer Philip Mitchell Brailsford
Post by: Agnostic007 on December 14, 2017, 07:09:58 PM
as an officer with 30 plus years, at least 15 spent dealing with exactly those circumstances, personally have addressed similar calls many many times, this makes me sick to my stomach
Title: Re: Daniel Shaver - Murdered by police officer Philip Mitchell Brailsford
Post by: Agnostic007 on December 14, 2017, 07:16:15 PM
the legal aspects, of a jury looking at it from the officers view point and not with the ability of hindsight, an argument COULD be made his reaching COULD be construed as threatening and therefore guilty is not likely ,,,, but...... what a fu-ing douche of a cop to shoot in that situation. Cowardice, wrong career, lack of a shred of decency comes to mind.. No call to shoot, though as I've heard before Legal doesn't mean ethical... I would not have shot at that point. IN fact, me and my team would have had him in handcuffs without the need to make the man crawl. Get on the floor... hands in front of you, cross your legs, don't move. One of us moves up puts cuffs on, game over. We then clear the room. I hate to see this crappy tactics that needlessly end in a life
Title: Re: Daniel Shaver - Murdered by police officer Philip Mitchell Brailsford
Post by: calfzilla on December 14, 2017, 07:27:33 PM
the legal aspects, of a jury looking at it from the officers view point and not with the ability of hindsight, an argument COULD be made his reaching COULD be construed as threatening and therefore guilty is not likely ,,,, but...... what a fu-ing douche of a cop to shoot in that situation. Cowardice, wrong career, lack of a shred of decency comes to mind.. No call to shoot, though as I've heard before Legal doesn't mean ethical... I would not have shot at that point. IN fact, me and my team would have had him in handcuffs without the need to make the man crawl. Get on the floor... hands in front of you, cross your legs, don't move. One of us moves up puts cuffs on, game over. We then clear the room. I hate to see this crappy tactics that needlessly end in a life

Agree completely. The way you described how your team would make the arrest is how I've seen it done a hundred times on the show "cops".

Not sure why this beta was trying to get these people to do all this complicated crawling shit. You can tell the cop wanted to kill.
Title: Re: Daniel Shaver - Murdered by police officer Philip Mitchell Brailsford
Post by: Agnostic007 on December 14, 2017, 07:32:06 PM
Agree completely. The way you described how your team would make the arrest is how I've seen it done a hundred times on the show "cops".

Not sure why this beta was trying to get these people to do all this complicated crawling shit. You can tell the cop wanted to kill.

I don't know that he wanted to kill, but he sure contributed to the danger by handling it that way. It truly boggles my mind