Author Topic: wtc 7 conspiracy (Read 19997 times)

jwb · « **Reply #50 on:** February 23, 2011, 11:50:32 AM »

Quote from: JOHN MATRIX on February 23, 2011, 11:45:37 AM

ROFL...ironically, they designed the twin towers with this scenario in mind. they were designed to withstand MULTIPLE airplane hits and not fall....

767's didn't exist when the towers were designed the biggest jet was the 707 which is the same size as a 737-800.

Much larger plane, full of fuel, going a lot faster than cruising speed.

JOHN MATRIX · « **Reply #51 on:** February 23, 2011, 11:53:21 AM »

Quote from: Aerian on February 23, 2011, 11:48:20 AM

That is exactly what i heard over and over as well years ago. Modern Skyscrapers are built to take these type of actions (planes flying into them by accident of course in most cases).

and in any case, why did building 7 fall?

no planes hit it, and it had only a few small isolated fires on certain *convenient* floors.

several of the surrounding buildings took much more damage yet stood...

then building 7 suddenly falls neatly into its own footprint in a textbook controlled demo. hell look at the video, the building looks damn near perfect when it suddenly just falls straight down ROFL

240 is Back · « **Reply #52 on:** February 23, 2011, 11:57:11 AM »

pools of molten steel measured by nasa....days later.... temperatures still way above the maximum termperature achieveable by jet fuel. common with explosives, impossible with jet fuel. We're talking hotter than it was at the moment of explosion, hotter than anything burning in the towers...

Now, if these pools were located under towers 1 and 2, there would be some serious Qs to answer, right?

Then you'd probably be REALLy shocked if the same puddles were under WTC7, huh?

makaveli25 · « **Reply #53 on:** February 23, 2011, 12:10:42 PM »

Quote from: Croatch on February 23, 2011, 11:39:22 AM

WTC 7 was controlled demolition...100%.
The owner went back on what he said, in his initial interview to cover it up.

Watch how the building falls, it's obvious.

WTC 1 & 2...I'm not so sure demolition was the cause. They claim they fell at freefall speeds...not exactly. If you really time it, it's around 15 seconds, not freefall speed.

And people who claim our government couldn't possibly cover this up...are idiots. Keep telling yourself...Oswald killed Kennedy too.

Since the beginning of time, wars are created like this. After 911, Bush was given free reign to invade whomever he wanted based on the "war on terror". Sometimes, it takes a big event to get people behind you. We're still dicking around in Iraq almost a decade later based on nuclear weapons that didn't exist. Wake up yoyos.

You simpelton you think killing one man compares to taking down 3 fucking buildings. Again it would take between 8-10 thousand people to orchestrate this kind of attack. People might not like Bush but the man is not capable of something like this. Think about how sadastic those 8-10 people would be. Why would the person at the low end of the totem pull who helped "pull this off" not sing like a canary right now for a couple of million dollars. It's logic! Not that many people can keep a secret!

jwb · « **Reply #54 on:** February 23, 2011, 12:11:01 PM »

Nice to see everyone here has advanced science degrees!

We know for a fact wtc7 was damaged by wtc1 falling into it not just fire. Its structure was weakened the same as the towers. Fire further weakened the steel. Steel doesn't need to melt to fail when a heavy building is on top of it.

Wtc7 was also not a rectangular building as the famous video implies it was trapezoidal. The narrow side was the one damaged and where the collapse started well below the area visible on the video. The wider rear of the building visible didn't fail it simply fell once the collapse started the same as the top of the towers didn't fail they just fell once it gave way below them.

BIG_STI · « **Reply #55 on:** February 23, 2011, 12:13:55 PM »

Wasn't there a huge case against Enron in WTC 7 for ripping the California people off for the sum of $90 billion that went up in smoke when the building came down?

makaveli25 · « **Reply #56 on:** February 23, 2011, 12:16:37 PM »

http://www.debunking911.com/pull.htm
This website debunks the myths with science and backed evidence.

Tito24 · « **Reply #57 on:** February 23, 2011, 12:19:50 PM »

makaveli25 · « **Reply #58 on:** February 23, 2011, 12:21:11 PM »

Quote from: Tito24 on February 23, 2011, 12:19:50 PM

Wheres the pictures of his female bodyguards?

makaveli25 · « **Reply #59 on:** February 23, 2011, 12:29:25 PM »

Don't you see how ridiculously complicated this whole thing would have to be. How many people would have to stay quite for this long.

With all the people that despise Bush you don't think they would want to dig this up and uncover the conspiracy I mean come on.

A lot of people on here call Bush incompetent. How would he pull of the greatest cover up ever in human history then. It would of had to been the greatest cover up times a million.

Hope I changed some minds.

Nails · « **Reply #60 on:** February 23, 2011, 12:57:20 PM »

Quote from: makaveli25 on February 23, 2011, 12:29:25 PM

its crazy how this cartoon describes exactly how it went down.... way to many questions unanswered to satisfy americans.... Btw you are in the minority when it comes to this makaveli25... makaveli conspired to fake his death and kill his enemies ... sorta what george bush did with iraq

http://www.infowars.com/articles/sept11/cnn_poll2.htm

CNN Poll: 90% Believe US Government Covering Up 9/11

Top Dog · « **Reply #61 on:** February 23, 2011, 12:59:44 PM »

Quote from: makaveli25 on February 23, 2011, 12:29:25 PM

Don't you see how ridiculously complicated this whole thing would have to be. How many people would have to stay quite for this long.

With all the people that despise Bush you don't think they would want to dig this up and uncover the conspiracy I mean come on.

A lot of people on here call Bush incompetent. How would he pull of the greatest cover up ever in human history then. It would of had to been the greatest cover up times a million.

Hope I changed some minds.

Because conspiracy theorists want to believe it.

The Showstoppa · « **Reply #62 on:** February 23, 2011, 01:02:18 PM »

Quote from: Nails on February 23, 2011, 12:57:20 PM

http://www.infowars.com/articles/sept11/cnn_poll2.htm

CNN Poll: 90% Believe US Government Covering Up 9/11

"CNN poll?" hahaha, that was a click and vote.....and guess who is WAY more likely to even bother with doing that type of "poll?"

epic_alien · « **Reply #63 on:** February 23, 2011, 01:09:05 PM »

Quote from: makaveli25 on February 23, 2011, 12:29:25 PM

Don't you see how ridiculously complicated this whole thing would have to be. How many people would have to stay quite for this long.

With all the people that despise Bush you don't think they would want to dig this up and uncover the conspiracy I mean come on.

A lot of people on here call Bush incompetent. How would he pull of the greatest cover up ever in human history then. It would of had to been the greatest cover up times a million.

Hope I changed some minds.

show me one video of a plane crashing into the pentagon. and we will all shut up. just show me the video where you can clearly see a large jetliner crash into the pentagon. and then we will all declare you correct, and the rest us are just stupid.
throw up the video

Ganuvanx · « **Reply #64 on:** February 23, 2011, 01:11:13 PM »

Compare a typical plane crash with the photos from Shanksville immediately after the plane went down. I recall seeing this on the news hours after the crash. It's a smoking hole free of plane debris, bodies, luggage etc. It's not just the WTC crashes that are in doubt.

A local resident observed, "It’s the only place it could have gone down and be sure no one would be hurt."

Here is a quote from the coroner in Shanksville - "NOTHING that you can distinguish that a plane had crashed." The coroner said," I stopped being coroner after about 20 minutes, because there were no bodies there."

Nails · « **Reply #65 on:** February 23, 2011, 01:16:37 PM »

Quote from: epic_alien on February 23, 2011, 01:09:05 PM

show me one video of a plane crashing into the pentagon. and we will all shut up. just show me the video where you can clearly see a large jetliner crash into the pentagon. and then we will all declare you correct, and the rest us are just stupid.
throw up the video

QFT... shit atleast hire George lucas to make a fake video to please the people... but really?? this is all you can show really? Hundreds of cameras and you show us a ball of fire $:-\$

WOW!!! IM SOLD !!! CASE CLOSED!!! i fucking saw it... clear as day... 3 sand niggaz with rags on their heads flying the jet... i cant believe i didnt see it before... he totally flipped the bird before it hit.. those basterds...IT GO TIME!!! WW3 motha fukas

epic_alien · « **Reply #66 on:** February 23, 2011, 01:18:20 PM »

you can argue about every little thing about 9/11 and go nuts trying to tie it all together.

the only thing one should concentrate on is the pentagon. its the easiest way to know the truth was not told. now we have a building with thousands of cameras on it. the freeway cameras, the hotels and gas station cameras. yet we have 1 video, that shows nothing? this is what you should think of. its most logical to ask why we have not seen video of this large airliner crash into the pentagon. if video exists of this large plane hitting it, then why has it not surfaced, 10 years later?

ask yourself after watching the 5 second video. do you think a plane that size could ravel that fast that close to the ground? really, ask yourself this.
i think you cannot show what did not happen. its really the only way to think about it.

otherwise prove the people wrong and show the video.

the wiki leaks guy might have something on it, and look what they did to him, falsely charge him with rape, try and smear his name, jail him, and now what do you hear about him? absolutely nothing.

JOHN MATRIX · « **Reply #67 on:** February 23, 2011, 01:27:02 PM »

Quote from: jwb on February 23, 2011, 12:11:01 PM

Nice to see everyone here has advanced science degrees!

We know for a fact wtc7 was damaged by wtc1 falling into it not just fire. Its structure was weakened the same as the towers. Fire further weakened the steel. Steel doesn't need to melt to fail when a heavy building is on top of it.

Wtc7 was also not a rectangular building as the famous video implies it was trapezoidal. The narrow side was the one damaged and where the collapse started well below the area visible on the video. The wider rear of the building visible didn't fail it simply fell once the collapse started the same as the top of the towers didn't fail they just fell once it gave way below them.

haha come on, the twin towers didnt fall onto it, they fell straight down. sure wtc7 was hit with falling debris, but so were ALL the buildings in the immediate vicinity, many of which sustained FAR more visible damage than wtc7 and had even worse fires. yet they ALL remained standing.

hell, just look at wtc7 when it falls, there is no fallen building on top of it nor any of the kind of catastrophic damage that would ensue from such an event; it looks nearly pristine, especially towards the top where the damage would have been worst from your falling tower theory...

of course its probably just a coincidence that unlike the surrounding buildings, wtc7 contained tons of important documents pertaining to cases against enron and god knows what else

Nails · « **Reply #68 on:** February 23, 2011, 01:27:34 PM »

"They told me you need to keep your mouth shut, your career is on the line"

"when someone in the army tell me to do something, you about face salute them and get it done"

All pawns in this game of life

big L dawg · « **Reply #69 on:** February 23, 2011, 01:35:48 PM »

makaveli25 · « **Reply #70 on:** February 23, 2011, 01:45:03 PM »

So you think that many people can keep a secret the fbi, cia, fema, whole George Bush Adminstration, all the workers it took to supposely wire up the buildings everyones family members all the people that hate George Bush. All of them have been silinced by someone yelling in their face

Taken from http://www.debunking911.com/osama.htm
"Conspiracy theorists like to say "Some Arabs with box cutters couldn't have pulled this off." Let's forget for a minute how racist that statement is. (Arabs can do anything Americans can do) Let's also imagine that the hijackers didn't make it clear they had a bomb as well as the box cutters. The fact is they were the perfect ones to pull this off. Osama went to school for civil engineering at a time when the towers were being built. America thought enough of him to use him to hold off the USSR in Afghanistan. Most of the hijackers have college educations. Some had flight experience and trained with simulators."

"The conspiracy story suggests a few Arabs can't convince you they have a bomb and are dangerous. Remember that most hijackings ended in the past with hijackers making demands and sometimes people being rescued by specialists in hijackings. Now add the hijackers attacking and possibly killing crew members and you can easily conclude the passengers had little reason to risk injury or death. So you don't need any government intervention to carry out that part of the plan. If the passengers of the other airliners knew what was coming I'm sure the plan wouldn't have worked as well. We can draw that conclusion from flight 93. "

"The conspiracy story also suggests it would be impossible to evade radar without government help. As if there aren't 4,000 airliners in the air at any given time in America. There were hundreds in that area alone. It may have been easier to intercept an airliner with the transponder on but even that isn't easy due to the amount of airliners in the air at the time. One airliner that didn't have anything to do with the attack was thought to be a hijacking and people were planning an intercept. Can you imagine if that plane was brought down by accident? Conspiracy theorists want us to believe its easy to quickly find these flying "needles in the haystacks" when they can't even find photos of iron workers cutting columns at an angle during cleanup. Not even when it's on the same web site and they have all the time in the world to find it."

Nails · « **Reply #71 on:** February 23, 2011, 01:50:32 PM »

Quote from: makaveli25 on February 23, 2011, 01:45:03 PM

So you think that many people can keep a secret the fbi, cia, fema, whole George Bush Adminstration, all the workers it took to supposely wire up the buildings everyones family members all the people that hate George Bush. All of them have been silinced by someone yelling in their face

Taken from http://www.debunking911.com/osama.htm
"Conspiracy theorists like to say "Some Arabs with box cutters couldn't have pulled this off." Let's forget for a minute how racist that statement is. (Arabs can do anything Americans can do) Let's also imagine that the hijackers didn't make it clear they had a bomb as well as the box cutters. The fact is they were the perfect ones to pull this off. Osama went to school for civil engineering at a time when the towers were being built. America thought enough of him to use him to hold off the USSR in Afghanistan. Most of the hijackers have college educations. Some had flight experience and trained with simulators."

"The conspiracy story suggests a few Arabs can't convince you they have a bomb and are dangerous. Remember that most hijackings ended in the past with hijackers making demands and sometimes people being rescued by specialists in hijackings. Now add the hijackers attacking and possibly killing crew members and you can easily conclude the passengers had little reason to risk injury or death. So you don't need any government intervention to carry out that part of the plan. If the passengers of the other airliners knew what was coming I'm sure the plan wouldn't have worked as well. We can draw that conclusion from flight 93. "

"The conspiracy story also suggests it would be impossible to evade radar without government help. As if there aren't 4,000 airliners in the air at any given time in America. There were hundreds in that area alone. It may have been easier to intercept an airliner with the transponder on but even that isn't easy due to the amount of airliners in the air at the time. One airliner that didn't have anything to do with the attack was thought to be a hijacking and people were planning an intercept. Can you imagine if that plane was brought down by accident? Conspiracy theorists want us to believe its easy to quickly find these flying "needles in the haystacks" when they can't even find photos of iron workers cutting columns at an angle during cleanup. Not even when it's on the same web site and they have all the time in the world to find it."

Yes i can... you don't to that level if your barney fife... you must be the worst liar ever... here its not that hard... NOPE.. i dont know anything.. ummmmmm yea sand niggas did it... Ummmm Jeeze i dont know.... Ummmm you wanna take this one Andy?

See lying isnt that hard.. especially if your good at it, get paid for it, and were trained to do it, and you believe in it

makaveli25 · « **Reply #72 on:** February 23, 2011, 01:51:38 PM »

Why would magazines like popular mechanics lie? What is in it for them? How could so many betray their brothers and sisters and completely get away with it? Again for the fifth time you can't possible silence that many people. Maybe if you believe in mind control epic alien probably does.

With all the film that was rolling that day all of the people that saw what happened they should be able to come up with at least a shred of proof this was a conspiracy.

Nails your crazy bro

makaveli25 · « **Reply #73 on:** February 23, 2011, 01:56:31 PM »

On the scale of one to a billion this conspiracy would be a billion. Our goverement can't hide shit. Scandals bust out all the time over stupid things. But one of this magnitude is some how hidden for this long

Croatch · « **Reply #74 on:** February 23, 2011, 01:58:06 PM »

Quote from: makaveli25 on February 23, 2011, 12:10:42 PM

You simpelton you think killing one man compares to taking down 3 fucking buildings. Again it would take between 8-10 thousand people to orchestrate this kind of attack. People might not like Bush but the man is not capable of something like this. Think about how sadastic those 8-10 people would be. Why would the person at the low end of the totem pull who helped "pull this off" not sing like a canary right now for a couple of million dollars. It's logic! Not that many people can keep a secret!

Where are you getting that number? You my friend, are the simpleton.