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I'm hearing BSN will announce this weekend in Orlando their latest IFBB Pro signing. Any guesses who it might be?
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Kai after he disisses MuscleMeds...oh Brother. ::) He can keep wearing all the read he wants and just change the logo. He's leaving MD to upgrade to a better company might as well do the same thing for his supplement company, although he signed a multiyear contract with them don't know how easy it is to get out of those...
Or Roelly Twinkler.
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Word on the street is that it is Gunter.
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Who is Trey Brewer signed with these days?
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He has signed with Chris Cook.
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Who is Trey Brewer signed with these days?
unemployment,,,
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I'm hearing BSN will announce this weekend in Orlando their latest IFBB Pro signing. Any guesses who it might be?
it's a stunner!
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When you back on stage Jim?How many IFBB Pro shows have you won?
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I'm hearing BSN will announce this weekend in Orlando their latest IFBB Pro signing. Any guesses who it might be?
Oh boy oh boy oh boy...I hope my subscription to Musclephone is up-to-date.
;D
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it's a stunner!
somehow i have trouble believing "its a stunner"
its a bodybuilder getting a supplement contract, these guys pick up contracts and get dropped every couple of months
the only instance of something "stunning" happening............... .would be if jay cutler appears wearing a BSN shirt, that would be a genuine story
he has been muscletech's golden boy for quite sometime.....but BSN has been coming on strong of late
but anybody else getting signed would be of no surprise, rolly winkler for example would be very much expected
remember right now they have coleman, wolf, curry....
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If it happens - quite interesting!
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and not to scoop this thread, but a bigger story has emerged.........Species has announced it signed Ben White :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[
***crickets***
:-[ :-[ :-[
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ron how do i quote people? nobody will tell me, your quote icon does not work
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Titus?
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somehow i have trouble believing "its a stunner"
its a bodybuilder getting a supplement contract, these guys pick up contracts and get dropped every couple of months
QFT
Name one bodybuilder who has been set for life after getting a 'contract' that didn't involve an Arab G4P ring.
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If their history of signings repeats itself this one will be a real doozy. Let's recap shall we?
Ronnie Coleman goes from Mr. Olympia never looking better to a sad, steady decline looking his worse ever... after signing with BSN.
Lunch Trey Brewer goes from the man at the Excalibur to looking like a pile of mashed pototoes... after signing with BSN.
Brandon Curry goes from Mr. USA to not competing and irrellevant... after signing with BSN.
Forrest Griffin goes from top UFC champ to getting punked like a bitch and knocked out by Silva and Evans... after signing with BSN.
Anthony Johnson goes from top UFC prospect to multiple injuries and surgeries with no fight in months... after signing with BSN.
Whoever they sign can be gauranteed to look like a bucket of dicks within two years. Congratulations!!!!!!!
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If their history of signings repeats itself this one will be a real doozy. Let's recap shall we?
Ronnie Coleman goes from Mr. Olympia never looking better to a sad, steady decline looking his worse ever... after signing with BSN.
Lunch Trey Brewer goes from the man at the Excalibur to looking like a pile of mashed pototoes... after signing with BSN.
Brandon Curry goes from Mr. USA to not competing and irrellevant... after signing with BSN.
Forrest Griffin goes from top UFC champ to getting punked like a bitch and knocked out by Silva and Evans... after signing with BSN.
Anthony Johnson goes from top UFC prospect to multiple injuries and surgeries with no fight in months... after signing with BSN.
Whoever they sign can be gauranteed to look like a bucket of dicks within two years. Congratulations!!!!!!!
An astute obvervation Mr. Sushi.
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BSN signs Ronnie Coleman, the international market for BSN skyrockets to record sales that year.
BSN signs Forest Griggin, the MMA market moves up tremendously for them.
BSN signs Trey Brewer and Brando Curry, two big bodybiulders who also had quit an audience and following.
Cant complain about BSN, who are one of the top 5 supplement companies out there, and have a great workforce, including good friends that work there.
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I'm hearing BSN will announce this weekend in Orlando their latest IFBB Pro signing. Any guesses who it might be?
How "big" of a announcement will this be? That might give us a clue...
My first guess would be Gunter
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BSN signs Ronnie Coleman, the international market for BSN skyrockets to record sales that year.
BSN signs Forest Griggin, the MMA market moves up tremendously for them.
BSN signs Trey Brewer and Brando Curry, two big bodybiulders who also had quit an audience and following.
Cant complain about BSN, who are one of the top 5 supplement companies out there, and have a great workforce, including good friends that work there.
sorry ROn, there are a bunch of dicks that work there. ask me how i know.
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sorry ROn, there are a bunch of dicks that work there. ask me how i know.
according to ron, every bodybuilder is an upstanding, great guy
and the supplement industry is honest and caring
::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
anyone who has been around the industry for longer then 5 minutes knows what a fantasy ron is espousing
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I'm hearing BSN will announce this weekend in Orlando their latest IFBB Pro signing. Any guesses who it might be?
King Kamali
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according to ron, every bodybuilder is an upstanding, great guy
and the supplement industry is honest and caring
::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
anyone who has been around the industry for longer then 5 minutes knows what a fantasy ron is espousing
Well, even though he blows smoke on a lot of stuff because he works in the industry and has a family to feed, he also clearly states "BSN signs Ronnie Coleman, the international market for BSN skyrockets to record sales that year."
Everything related to competitive bodybuilding is about selling supplements and that's what Ron illustrates with his BSN example. So, he's being honest with his readers...ya just gotta read between the lines. ;)
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I actually heard some guys talking about it at the gym. Go figure. I guess it is going to be someone big. Could it possibly be this guy?
(http://www.gettingpumped.com/wp-content/uploads//synthol_dickhead.jpg)
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according to ron, every bodybuilder is an upstanding, great guy. and the supplement industry is honest and caring
Uh... not even close with that statement.
Well, even though he blows smoke on a lot of stuff because he works in the industry and has a family to feed, he also clearly states "BSN signs Ronnie Coleman, the international market for BSN skyrockets to record sales that year."
That was what happened. Dont like the answer - oh well.
Everything related to competitive bodybuilding is about selling supplements and that's what Ron illustrates with his BSN example. So, he's being honest with his readers...ya just gotta read between the lines.
It starts with competitive bodybuilding, but the majority of the people buying supplements are regular people who just work out in the gym, want to lose weight, gain weight or get in shape. Competitive bodybuilding is a sporting niche, but a very important one!
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Bob Chick
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Who is Trey Brewer signed with these days?
(http://hunt4freebies.com/coupons/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/Lunchables-Lunch.jpg)
How "big" of a announcement will this be? That might give us a clue...
My first guess would be Gunter
somebody's maddd they didnt get an offer :'( :'(
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Had breakfast with someone sporting a BSN jersey that you might not have expected. ???
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Other forums are saying, Chick and Gunter!
;D OH THE SUSPENSE!
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Had breakfast with someone sporting a BSN jersey that you might not have expected. ???
Funny....you don't look like you eat.
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BSN will have a Live Press Conference on ESPN2 this afternoon at 2:00pm ET ;)
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how bout dex,,,,,
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This will change the face of the sport as we know it.
"1"
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Had breakfast with someone sporting a BSN jersey...
Reduce Teh Gay!!
I know you're not (totally) homo, so quit faggin' out. I mean, not that there's anything wrong with doing what you wanna do, but...just sayin'.
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I'll say Phil since he's the only person contractually obligated to have breakfast with Lift Studios
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I'll say Phil since he's the only person contractually obligated to have breakfast with Lift Studios
Did Musclephone tell you that? ;D I have not gotten my alerts. :o
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Did Musclephone tell you that? ;D I have not gotten my alerts. :o
Why the hell can't I get the Musclephone app in the app store??
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lift studios
is he the fag that thought musclephone will take over ? :D
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How "big" of a announcement will this be? That might give us a clue...
My first guess would be Gunter
Really? I wasnt aware he came back
Also. I remember seeing Gunther at The Coffee Bean in Marina Del Rey like 5 times. The one on Maxella.
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Really? I wasnt aware he came back
Also. I remember seeing Gunther at The Coffee Bean in Marina Del Rey like 5 times. The one on Maxella.
Gunther is in Mission Valley. 8)
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Had breakfast with someone sporting a BSN jersey that you might not have expected. ???
what a fag this guy is,,
stop with the gay little teasers ::) ::) ::) ::)
either say what you want, or shut you fucking mouth
we all know it involves phil heath anyway, because you live wiht your tongue in his asshole all day like an man wiht no dignity
what absolute losers populate this bodybuilding industry
to this guy, he is holding on to some "big news" ::) ::)
while absolutely no one else in the world cares......bodybuilders and supplement contracts are one of the most ridiculous phenomena in all of sports...........because most will tell your candidly that they never even touch the supplements they advocate, its all bullshit
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what a fag this guy is,,
stop with the gay little teasers ::) ::) ::) ::)
either say what you want, or shut you fucking mouth
we all know it involves phil heath anyway, because you live wiht your tongue in his asshole all day like an man wiht no dignity
what absolute losers populate this bodybuilding industry
to this guy, he is holding on to some "big news" ::) ::)
while absolutely no one else in the world cares......bodybuilders and supplement contracts are one of the most ridiculous phenomena in all of sports...........because most will tell your candidly that they never even touch the supplements they advocate, its all bullshit
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Just got this from Earl
"Obama is having a press conference to announce the new BSN athlete"
"ESPN is dedicating an entire hour on this story"
"Every major newspaper in the world will be converging on the BSN headquarters"
"Baseball has decided to change the World Series to the BSN Series"
"The new BSN athlete will be on next years Dancing with the Stars and also Jersey Shore
"The U.S. Army on behalf of one of their finest men (Vince Goodrum) is announcing a new gun guaranteed not to jam called the BSN
All personal trainers with the letters MFPT, CNN, BS or any other worthless certification through the mail BSN will make sure any you will finish in last place at every BB contest you enter
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It will be Goodrum.
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I have the inside scoop................... ..........it's Tiger Woods.
It's because Nicky Fleites will be his new mistress.
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what a fag this guy is,,
stop with the gay little teasers ::) ::) ::) ::)
either say what you want, or shut you fucking mouth
we all know it involves phil heath anyway, because you live wiht your tongue in his asshole all day like an man wiht no dignity
what absolute losers populate this bodybuilding industry
to this guy, he is holding on to some "big news" ::) ::)
while absolutely no one else in the world cares......bodybuilders and supplement contracts are one of the most ridiculous phenomena in all of sports...........because most will tell your candidly that they never even touch the supplements they advocate, its all bullshit
x2
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It will be Goodrum.
We're talking about BSN here, not BS
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We're talking about BSN here, not BS
;D
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Those at the show saw that it is the resident Getbigger...
Bob Chick.
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what a fag this guy is,,
stop with the gay little teasers ::) ::) ::) ::)
either say what you want, or shut you fucking mouth
we all know it involves phil heath anyway, because you live wiht your tongue in his asshole all day like an man wiht no dignity
what absolute losers populate this bodybuilding industry
to this guy, he is holding on to some "big news" ::) ::)
while absolutely no one else in the world cares......bodybuilders and supplement contracts are one of the most ridiculous phenomena in all of sports...........because most will tell your candidly that they never even touch the supplements they advocate, its all bullshit
Thanks for playing Dbag.
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Those at the show saw that it is the resident Getbigger...
Bob Chick.
Why did i not get the message?? I was looking at my cell all day long. :D
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???
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is pro bodybuilding weekly podcast with ten listeners still going to continue?
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Yes.
http://www.rxmuscle.com/videos/c-interviews/1325-bob-cicherillo-after-signing-with-bsn-at-the-2010-europa-show-of-champions.html
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Yes.
http://www.rxmuscle.com/videos/c-interviews/1325-bob-cicherillo-after-signing-with-bsn-at-the-2010-europa-show-of-champions.html
Chick lives in Florida and BSN is out of Boca Raton, Florida.
So, Chick will come in better shape then Wolf and Coleman combined. 8)
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Congrats Chick! Great news!
Any plans for a comeback?
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Congrats Chick! Great news!
Any plans for a comeback?
you should know by now that signing with BSN is all about the dollar and not competition trophies. Did ANY bsn signed bber win any pro show??
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BSN has a knack for signing retired pros and amateurs.
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:D
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This and Jay Culter signing with MD is the biggest event of the year according to Palumbo?
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Chick........are you going to FIBO?
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I'm not really feeling the brand fit with Bob's image yet... but I am sure there is more to follow. Bob sort of being a bit old school, stubborn in beliefs and retired competitor and BSN with it's cutting edge scientific approach. If they were looking for a picture of integrity and trust in the industry then they have found that much.
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It doens't look like Bob works out too much these days.
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:D
two steaming pile's of dog shit right there
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" Thank you very much, Dan and Bob."
The Beef
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:D
Man has Palumbo shrunk down to size.
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Can't wait for the Chick transformation.
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Can't wait for the Chick transformation.
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Hes only doing MC work and booth work and stuff like that, not competing..
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Hes only doing MC work and booth work etc, not competing..
Sounds like a temporary part-time job.
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Congratulations Bob.
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I am guessing around 30K for 2 years = 15K per + free tank tops?
isn't it a conflict of interest that he works for bb.com as well? also I don't see how this helps BSN. Get some NFL pretty boy like Brady Quinn (no homo) like that other company did.
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I am guessing around 30K for 2 years = 15K per + free tank tops?
isn't it a conflict of interest that he works for bb.com as well? also I don't see how this helps BSN. Get some NFL pretty boy like Brady Quinn (no homo) like that other company did.
bodybuilding.com doesn't have their own supplement line as far as i know they're just resellers
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;)
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bodybuilding.com doesn't have their own supplement line as far as i know they're just resellers
No, they bought out Higher Power many years ago and own that company
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http://www.rxmuscle.com/videos/c-interviews/1325-bob-cicherillo-after-signing-with-bsn-at-the-2010-europa-show-of-champions.html
"elephant in the room" . . . "one door closes another one opens" . . . "testing different waters" . . . "what I bring to the table" . . . etc.
oh brother, who wants a spokesman who speaks in cliches?
plus Bob looks laughable in a tank top with his stick forearms and upper arms of goo.
so don't see what Chick "brings to the table" as he says (twice)?
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the biceps synthol injection is strong in this one.
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Maybe Bob will be helping Wolf with his preps now.
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Maybe Bob will be helping Wolf with his preps now.
I want one of those BSN shirts. 8)
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Congratulations!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bg7O1VgiHDE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bg7O1VgiHDE)
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oh god in heaven
bsn has made a horrible decision and they will soon realize that
now im never gonna try any bsn stuff
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oh god in heaven
bsn has made a horrible decision and they will soon realize that
now im never gonna try any bsn stuff
X2 Gene.
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Man lol be happy for the guy! (hes "one of us" doesn't have to post here but does)
got a beautiful wife and kid to support
congrats!!!!!!!
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for a guy who said 'drugs are just the finishing touch' bob chic sure looks like shit without them.
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I would think that BSN would sign competing BB's or other reps that compete, but with Bob being the "athlete's" rep and a good speaker and MC, it's still a good signing for publicity's sake. Let's face it, it's about drawing notice to your company that gets people to at least look at the product.
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Congratulations to Chick for getting the BSN contract. However, this better not affect the price of my No-Explode. >:(
;D
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Congrats to Chick ..well done ..you thinking about getting in shape once again Chick ?
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Congrats Bobert!
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did chick leave bb.com or did they fire him?
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How "big" of a announcement will this be? That might give us a clue...
My first guess would be Gunter
LOL... Congrats Brother! Good seeing you this weekend... See you in New York!
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for a guy who said 'drugs are just the finishing touch' bob chic sure looks like shit without them.
hahaha
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Congrats Bob! Great news!
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for a guy who said 'drugs are just the finishing touch' bob chic sure looks like shit without them.
lol truth
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What's the point of signing Chick, who's retired? And why is this a big deal? Sorry, I'm just not getting "it"
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What's the point of signing Chick, who's retired? And why is this a big deal? Sorry, I'm just not getting "it"
BSN has pretty labels that sparkle and shine! 8) :D
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BSN has pretty labels that sparkle and shine! 8) :D
yes, they certainly do ;) ;)
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Is Bob with BSN and Bodybuilding.com now? Both?
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Congrats Bob! Great news!
Aren't you the slightest bit jealous?
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Who the fuck cares? Why doesn't this Liftstudios dude ever post some truly interesting information? Like the swinging lifestyle in Denver? I always thought that was his expertise anyways? Especially when you're batting for both teams you really have access to the meat and potatoe stuff in that lifestyle like which pros are actually gay and which fitness sluts take it on the chin regularly! LOL.
BSN is shit......as are 99.9% of most supplements.
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High five, Chickster. :)
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High five, Chickster. :)
Who the fuck cares? Why doesn't this Liftstudios dude ever post some truly interesting information? Like the swinging lifestyle in Denver? I always thought that was his expertise anyways? Especially when you're batting for both teams you really have access to the meat and potatoe stuff in that lifestyle like which pros are actually gay and which fitness sluts take it on the chin regularly! LOL.
BSN is shit......as are 99.9% of most supplements.
You two do not have similar personalities.
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LOL... Congrats Brother! Good seeing you this weekend... See you in New York!
Thanks bro...NY will be a blast!
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did chick leave bb.com or did they fire him?
Neither
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Thanks bro...NY will be a blast!
Chick, will you send me one of those BSN T-Shirts?? :D
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Congrats Chick! Great news!
Any plans for a comeback?
I'll be on stage at the Olympia, brother...count on it!!
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Congrats Bob! Great news!
LOL are you kidding!?!? they should have signed someone like you in, than a retired '50' year old has been that never really accomplished much in pro bodybuilding...... Chick has about the same notoriety in bodybuilding as a Mr.O last placer like Ed Van Amsterdam (who!?! hehe) ....and isn't he retired and soft!?
No disrespect to Chick but they should have really signed an active competing up and comer not some 50 year old has been that never even placed well.
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Neither
Isn't that a conflict of interest being with both companies?
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and are going to claim that BSN products are responsible for your physique 10 years ago (the pictures that they will use) ?
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Neither
Are you still a spokesman for Bodybuilding.com? Based on your interview with Palumbo, and buzz words like "Testing New Waters," it would sound like you are not.
Whats the scoop?
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Are you still a spokesman for Bodybuilding.com? Based on your interview with Palumbo, and buzz words like "Testing New Waters," it would sound like you are not.
Whats the scoop?
The scoop is........
revealed on tomorrow nights edition of PBW....!!
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Congratulations Bob!!
I know you will bring a lot of value to BSN, their athletes and overall brand awareness to the bodybuilding community. I am sure you will be greatly appreciated bro.
Lets chat this week - its been too long
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I'll be on stage at the Olympia, brother...count on it!!
86 on the fish n chips!
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what a fag this guy is,,
stop with the gay little teasers ::) ::) ::) ::)
either say what you want, or shut you fucking mouth
we all know it involves phil heath anyway, because you live wiht your tongue in his asshole all day like an man wiht no dignity
what absolute losers populate this bodybuilding industry
to this guy, he is holding on to some "big news" ::) ::)
while absolutely no one else in the world cares......bodybuilders and supplement contracts are one of the most ridiculous phenomena in all of sports...........because most will tell your candidly that they never even touch the supplements they advocate, its all bullshit
Unsung should be the mother fukin athletes rep ;D
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Unsung should be the mother fukin athletes rep ;D
It's true. MethodGNA would not put up with any shit, from Man or Beast, or in this case from Manion, or any of the Athletes. :D
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It's true. MethodGNA would not put up with any shit, from Man or Beast, or in this case from Manion, or any of the Athletes. :D
;D
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Unsung should be the mother fukin athletes rep ;D
X2 the mofo has no fear.
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So Chick turned his back on BB.com?! :o
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Chick has some serious connection in the industry. He'll be a Good spokeman for BSN. hey, Chick, I can't wait to see you interview Ronnie. and ask him if he already started training his 2010 Olympia comeback ;)
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Unsung should be the mother fukin athletes rep ;D
i would love for just one day to have free reign over the fragile egos, delusionites, and ball-lickers in this industry to call them on their high jinx
chick spitting out chiches' like a crooked politicians, and acting like anyone cares whether or not he is still with BB.com
singerman tonguing off his nuts to try to get some more industry recognition
kyomu, well, just being kyomu
these fucking people are out of their minds... :-[ :-[
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Will Maleah Jo be a new BSN Booth girl?
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un sung laying down the fuckin law.
we need to get un sung as the ifbb athletes rep. he will clean the place up.
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Congratulations Bob, BSN are a great company to work with.
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I'll be on stage at the Olympia, brother...count on it!!
nice, your always on stage.. so are you going to compete or not
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I guess Bob is jumping on the sauce real soon to perk up his man boobs and sagging triceps. What's the cycle going to look like?
HGH, IGF1 (you can just walk into any pharma and get it), Deca, Sust, Tren , Win, Anavat, clen and some T3?
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I guess Bob is jumping on the sauce real soon to perk up his man boobs and sagging triceps. What's the cycle going to look like?
HGH, IGF1 (you can just walk into any pharma and get it), Deca, Sust, Tren , Win, Anavat, clen and some T3?
well, he's on doc prescribed hrt so its all legal ::)
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Congratulations Bob, BSN are a great company to work with.
Absolutely my friend...I hear they have a pretty good photographer
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Absolutely my friend...I hear they have a pretty good photographer
i hope hes good at shopping out your famous pit stains
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i hope hes good at shopping out your famous pit stains
:D :D
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Absolutely my friend...I hear they have a pretty good photographer
:-)
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i hope hes good at shopping out your famous pit stains
I know...those $400 shirts sure are hot!
sorry this bothers you so much, I see you've mentioned it quite a few times now...
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i hope hes good at shopping out your famous pit stains
Could you ask your Mom to help you write that again so I can understand it?
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Could you ask your Mom to help you write that again so I can understand it?
You're pumping a dry well with this one, bro....
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You're pumping a dry well with this one, bro....
So is it over at BB.com for you? Maybe I missed it.
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So is it over at BB.com for you? Maybe I missed it.
You didnt miss anything...PBW isnt on until 8 PM (EST) tonight!!
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You didnt miss anything...PBW isnt on until 8 PM (EST) tonight!!
I'll be there so 2 jobs now bro?
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I'll be there so 2 jobs now bro?
He won't answer until the show no matter how sneaky you address your questions towards him :-\
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I'll be there so 2 jobs now bro?
I've got lots of jobs...in addition, Athletes rep, MC work, AMI/ Weider. VP of Eggwhites International....
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VP of Eggwhites International....
most overpriced product on earth. you can buy a carton of eggs and make your own egg whites for 1/10th the price.
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When the BSN news was going around it seemed like he was going to be working for BSN and Bodybuilding.com. Bob just said on PBW that he's not with BB.com anymore. Bob, how long were you there? Was it from the start of the company? I thought you were a partial owner of that site? The end of an era!
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7 years
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So let's get this straight...
Bob Chick says that he was neither let go from BBing.com, and he didn't quit.
So when only two possible options are available, he somehow manages to succeed in a third option.
An amazing man he is.
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When the BSN news was going around it seemed like he was going to be working for BSN and Bodybuilding.com. Bob just said on PBW that he's not with BB.com anymore. Bob, how long were you there? Was it from the start of the company? I thought you were a partial owner of that site? The end of an era!
cant see a conflict of interest there but his business not ours
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So let's get this straight...
Bob Chick says that he was neither let go from BBing.com, and he didn't quit.
So when only two possible options are available, he somehow manages to succeed in a third option.
An amazing man he is.
I thought the same thing...lol
Bob is 50% man 50% beast and 50% amazing. Only Bob can do that.
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I thought the same thing...lol
Bob is 50% man 50% beast and 50% amazing. Only Bob can do that.
I would say that Bob is the new Chuck Norris, but that would be an insult to Bob.
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This is true.
Like Chuck Norris, Bob does not own a house. He just walks into random houses and people move.
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it must be awkward having Muscletech and BB.com sponsor Bob's radio show
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This is true.
Like Chuck Norris, Bob does not own a house. He just walks into random houses and people move.
and they buy him a total gym
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Bob has a toupee
-A DUB
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Bob Chick once played Russian Roulette with a fully loaded gun, and Won.
This was shortly after he bought some Humalog in L.A. at a pharmacy without a script. :D
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Bob Chick once played Russian Roulette with a fully loaded gun, and Won.
This was shortly after he bought some Humalog in L.A. at a pharmacy without a script. :D
lol
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it must be awkward having Muscletech and BB.com sponsor Bob's radio show
The AMI Athlete's Rep never met a conflict of interest he didn't embrace.
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Bob Chick ALWAYS knows the exact location of Carmen Sandiego.
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funny thread :D
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Bob doesn't have conflicts of interests. This term doesn't apply to him or anything he's involved with.
Bob can play for two teams competing and both teams will win.
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cant see a conflict of interest there but his business not ours
With him being a spokesperson for BSN and BB.com selling BSN and other products, it would conflict with the other suppliers there because he could actually endorse BSN and not their products.
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Crop Circles are basically Bob Chick's way of telling the world that sometimes Corn needs to lie down.
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Crop Circles are basically Bob Chick's way of telling the world that sometimes Corn needs to lie down.
Bob's blood smells like cologne
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Bob Chick: did in fact build Rome in one day.
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I've got lots of jobs...in addition, Athletes rep, MC work, AMI/ Weider. VP of Eggwhites International....
Chick would also like to announce that he is 1/2 Jamaican.
-A DUB
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In the beginning, Bob created the heaven and earth.
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Mars has quite the following as well
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If at first you don't succeed, then your not Bob Chick.
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Bob spelled backward is God.
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Contrary to popular belief, there IS enough Bob Chick to go around.
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Bob can have his cake and eat it too.
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Waldo keeps hiding due to a fear of Bob Chick.
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He says he can play both sides of the fence :D
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Bob can sneeze with his eyes open.
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When Arnold said "I'll be back," in The Terminator, it is implied that he was going to go ask for Bob Chicks help.
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Bob Chick sunk Atlantis, simply because it obstructed his view of the sunset.
When Bob Chick was born he slapped the doctor.
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Clocks and watches get their time from Bob.
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If Bob Chick has a million dollar contract with BSN, and you have a million dollar contract with BSN, Bob Chick has a better contract than you.
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Bob is never offseason, he's always precontest.
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So let's get this straight...
Bob Chick says that he was neither let go from BBing.com, and he didn't quit.
So when only two possible options are available, he somehow manages to succeed in a third option.
An amazing man he is.
yep, it takes just the right sprinkling of dishonesty and spinelessness to NEVER just say what happened truthfully.
it is a physical IMPOSSIBILITY for someone to neither leave nor be fired
what a f'n company man d'bag
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Could you ask your Mom to help you write that again so I can understand it?
why did you capitalize mom?
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this is great news
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yep, it takes just the right sprinkling of dishonesty and spinelessness to NEVER just say what happened truthfully.
it is a physical IMPOSSIBILITY for someone to neither leave nor be fired
what a f'n company man d'bag
Actually...it's quite easy.
We mutually decided to not extend the contract, so I neither "quit" or was "fired", as was the two options presented...
Not too bright are you?
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Actually...it's quite easy.
We mutually decided to not extend the contract, so I neither "quit" or was "fired", as was the two options presented...
Not too bright are you?
Bob Chick has never quit or been fired from a job, there is only a mutual parting of ways.
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Bob Chick has never quit or been fired from a job, there is only a mutual parting of ways.
Bob Chick doesn't apply to a job application, he just shows up and takes the job.
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Bob Chick doesn't apply to a job application, he just shows up and takes the job.
Bob Chick doesn't apply to jobs. Jobs apply to Bob Chick!
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Bob Chick doesnt use steroids, steroids use Bob Chick
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Bob Chick doesnt use steroids, steroids use Bob Chick
He only uses them if he think he does. ;D
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Bob Chick doesn't actually type posts, they assemble themselves out of fear.
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sounds like someone was let go for not carrying his weight....
good thing BSN recognized a good liar to peddle their products
Actually...it's quite easy.
We mutually decided to not extend the contract, so I neither "quit" or was "fired", as was the two options presented...
Not too bright are you?
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Bob Chick doesnt use steroids, steroids use Bob Chick
lol, you might have been under the misinterpretation that bob chic was the host of the 2009 olympia..........when in fact, the 2009 olympia hosted bob chic
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Bob Chick once participated in the "Running of the Bulls." He of course opted to walk.
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Bob Chick doesn't wear a watch, as he decides what time it is!
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Bob chick has already won the 2011 Masters Pro
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Bob is never offseason, he's always precontest.
LMAO
And he can do it eating just hot dogs and coca-cola
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Bob Chick is not politically correct. He is just correct. Always.
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why did you capitalize mom?
Get back to school and find out.
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Bob chick has already won the 2011 Masters Pro
Are they having one already or is Chick starting one for himself?
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Get back to school and find out.
i see no need to-i think u just made a mistake after you told me to rewrite the post-and your usage of get is questionable as well
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:D :D :D
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i see no need to-i think u just made a mistake after you told me to rewrite the post-and your usage of get is questionable as well
Totally a typo Gene is usually on his game.
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Bob Chick is not politically correct. He is just correct. Always.
Sorry to do this to you, but at least cite where you are stealing from:
http://www.thechucknorrisfacts.com/
El-O-El
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Bob Chick doesn't copulate with random fitness chick pussy. Random fitness chick pussy just seems to always find a way to slide on to Bob Chicks cock.
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Actually...it's quite easy.
We mutually decided to not extend the contract, so I neither "quit" or was "fired", as was the two options presented...
Not too bright are you?
Wouldn't that mean that you both quit and were fired! LOL
Just playing big man! Congrats on BSN! Now its time for a comeback!
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Actually...it's quite easy.
We mutually decided to not extend the contract, so I neither "quit" or was "fired", as was the two options presented...
Not too bright are you?
Sorry, Bob, but that's called QUITTING!!
Quit:
1. To depart from; leave:
2. To leave the company of
3. To give up; relinquish:
4. To abandon or put aside; forsake:
5. To cease or discontinue:
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A contract ending is not quitting. It simply means both parties no longer have any obligation to each other and the duties of both have been fulfilled or resolved.
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semantics aside, it seems like BSN is a step down from BBing.Com.
I don't know details as far as financials , but purely from a profile perspective.
BBing.Com has contest webcasts, vids, a hugely popular website....BSN sells creatine to fools
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A contract ending is not quitting. It simply means both parties no longer have any obligation to each other and the duties of both have been fulfilled or resolved.
Technically, he did quit. He "departed" and/or "discontinued" from the company. Doesn't matter how. In the end, he left.
On the other hand, most people wouldn't consider that "quitting."
I'm just being a semantic asshole :D
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Actually...it's quite easy.
We mutually decided to not extend the contract, so I neither "quit" or was "fired", as was the two options presented...
Not too bright are you?
You basically quit lol Doesn't matter but if BSN didn't come along you'd have renewed your contract so you left them and they were happy to oblige because of BSN.
Bob spelled backwards is Bob :D
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semantics aside, it seems like BSN is a step down from BBing.Com.
I don't know details as far as financials , but purely from a profile perspective.
BBing.Com has contest webcasts, vids, a hugely popular website....BSN sells creatine to fools
Yes, now he's put himself in a corner with BSN. No longer will he have his other allies.
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perhaps Bob mustered up the courage to say [no] to Ryan Delucas weekly reach around? thus having his bodybuilding.com contract terminated.
PS: will PRO BODYBUILDING WEEKLY still on bodybuilding.com?
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Sorry to do this to you, but at least cite where you are stealing from:
http://www.thechucknorrisfacts.com/
El-O-El
Thank you for ruining the tempo of this thread.
I wasn't pretending to have created any of these BTW.
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perhaps Bob mustered up the courage to say [no] to Ryan Delucas weekly reach around? thus having his bodybuilding.com contract terminated.
PS: will PRO BODYBUILDING WEEKLY still on bodybuilding.com?
Is that really the image that popped up in your mind when the discussion of contracts came up??
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Totally a typo Gene is usually on his game.
what "game" is that?
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Is that really the image that popped up in your mind when the discussion of contracts came up??
Bob do you have any plans to raise BSN's profile ?
You really aren't a competitor as much as you are a BBing personality presently....is that why they hired you?
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Bob do you have any plans to raise BSN's profile ?
You really aren't a competitor as much as you are a BBing personality presently....is that why they hired you?
I've been hired to do many things, adding to their profile is one of them...I bring experience, knowledge of the business, and a face to the podium. Spokesman is the main title...
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Chick has to go where the money is maybe they cut his overtime at BB.com.
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Bob, will you ever compete again?
Definitely?
Hell no?
Maybe?
I dunno?
My hair is too good to get stained with pro tan?
;D
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What's BB.com going to do now? ??? :D
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What's BB.com going to do now? ??? :D
Get Flex Wheeler.
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Congrats Bob, well deserved! Gotta say I like there RTD'S
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What's BB.com going to do now? ??? :D
Hire Nasser to rep a new fat burner called Meltdown
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What's BB.com going to do now? ??? :D
I'm hearing through the grapvine that Goodrum might take Bob's position over there.
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Bob, will you ever compete again?
Definitely?
Hell no?
Maybe?
I dunno?
My hair is too good to get stained with pro tan?
;D
Highly unlikely
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Congrats Bob, well deserved! Gotta say I like there RTD'S
Yes, they spend a great deal in R&D..TASTE is number one in my book.
That said....this is the first time i've ever lent my name to a specific supp company....
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Highly unlikely
I gotta admit, its pretty bad ass that you can openly say that yet still be sponsored by some of the biggest companies. Good for you man, nice to see that some can still have a career in the industry even after they're done competing. Goes to show that you made an impact!
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I gotta admit, its pretty bad ass that you can openly say that yet still be sponsored by some of the biggest companies. Good for you man, nice to see that some can still have a career in the industry even after they're done competing. Goes to show that you made an impact!
Appreciated my friend...
I can say that because there is much more than just competing, and I have been fortunate to have had (and made) opportunities that bring value to companies...there are new generation athletes that can carry the flag on the competition stage. What I do is mostly behind the scenes.
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Appreciated my friend...
I can say that because there is much more than just competing, and I have been fortunate to have had (and made) opportunities that bring value to companies...there are new generation athletes that can carry the flag on the competition stage. What I do is mostly behind the scenes.
Yeah, seems like the big guys at BSN thought so. You gotta be doing something right if you got signed by the same company which signed Big Ron!
Are you still working as the IFBB Athletes' Rep?
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Highly unlikely
You could always still enter the Mr. Getbig.
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Yeah, seems like the big guys at BSN thought so. You gotta be doing something right if you got signed by the same company which signed Big Ron!
Are you still working as the IFBB Athletes' Rep?
Yes sir
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You could always still enter the Mr. Getbig.
And after you come in runner up again, you could stalk him for months on end like you did the little Jap that beat you. :D
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Congratulations, Bob. :)
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Yes sir
Keep doing what you've been doing! And congrats again big man!
I think I have a picture with you from that time you Emceed the Bodyrock in the DC area - old school days LOL. Gonna have to dig that one out!
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Keep doing what you've been doing! And congrats again big man!
I think I have a picture with you from that time you Emceed the Bodyrock in the DC area - old school days LOL. Gonna have to dig that one out!
LOL....please do.
God I loved that show....bring it back steve!!!
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LOL....please do.
God I loved that show....bring it back steve!!!
I knooow, The bodyRock was the first bodybuilding show I had ever attended (not the one you emceed, but a couple of years before). Steve (McAdams?) ran it so well, and the DC community waited for it all year long.
I lived in DC for about 10 years and loved going to it, then I moved overseas to Egypt for almost 4 years and now I'm back in DC and one of the saddest things was coming back and finding out that the BodyRock was no more!
I won't forget when you and King Emceed it and then king guest posed and something happened to his music and he had to improvise and got all the pros (you included) on stage for a posedown! That was awesome! Good times!
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Booo, My wife just informed me that those BodyRock pics are back at our place in Egypt! Oh well will have to put them up the next time I fly out there!
A lot of my good friends have competed in the BodyRock, no one ever had a bad thing to say about their experience there!
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Actually...it's quite easy.
We mutually decided to not extend the contract, so I neither "quit" or was "fired", as was the two options presented...
According to your own jargon, sometimes you get the elevator and sometimes the shaft! :o
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And after you come in runner up again, you could stalk him for months on end like you did the little Jap that beat you. :D
Phoun and I are fellow Socialists and great friends. I bet you didn`t know that.
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Phoun and I are fellow Socialists and great friends. I bet you didn`t know that.
I did not, thank you for sharing.
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Bob Chick puts on his posing trunks two legs at a time
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Bob Chick can make an egg white omlette without breaking any eggs
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Bob Chick can kill two stones with one roided up transsexual look alike bodybuilding chick
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Bob Chick bitch Slapped Chuck Norris and knocked him out!
OOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHH!
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Bob's blood smells like cologne
LOL! He's the most interesting man in the world!
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what "game" is that?
The "game" he runs on the system. Dude is on welfare and lives in government subsidized housing :-\
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Corrected for accuracy.
Hire Nasser to rep a new fat burner called Huge Meltdown.
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Bob *always* gets the elevator.
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Bob Chick never was to walk upstairs, only down.
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LOL....please do.
God I loved that show....bring it back steve!!!
Congratulations, Bob
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Bob Chick once played Russian Roulette with a fully loaded gun, and Won.
This was shortly after he bought some Humalog in L.A. at a pharmacy without a script. :D
:D
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So what is Bob's new role with BSN !? obviously he's too old to compete and be an athlete..
is he just going to be a mouthpiece or like a mentor to younger pro bb'ers
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Tell Alicia to call me Bob.
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According to your own jargon, sometimes you get the elevator and sometimes the shaft! :o
Thats correct...I've also said "Driving an unmarked white van and taking pictures of random kids kids for no reason is a little strange..." :o
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Thats correct...I've also said "Driving an unmarked white van and taking pictures of random kids kids for no reason is a little strange..." :o
Bob! How do you feel about stealing Chuck Norris's thunder!
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Bob! How do you feel about stealing Chuck Norris's thunder!
I'm fine with it, but Christy Brinkley is pretty upset!
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Does this make Chick a traitor? And who's gonna be the new poster boy for BB.com? :o
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Bob Chick can lead a horse to water... and make him drink.
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Great news, now he can step on more dog shit ! i'll check IMDb to see if any new scenes are coming up
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Thats correct...I've also said "Driving an unmarked white van and taking pictures of random kids kids for no reason is a little strange..." :o
Vince is one creepy old man for sure.
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Great news, now he can step on more dog shit ! i'll check IMDb to see if any new scenes are coming up
Feel free...as long as the checks keep rolling in!
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Feel free...as long as the checks keep rolling in!
im just fucking around with you.
serious question, do you plan to just stay in the fitness industry? or eventually make it in hollywood?
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im just fucking around with you.
serious question, do you plan to just stay in the fitness industry? or eventually make it in hollywood?
My "hollywood days" are pretty limited...especially since I moved to FL. When opportunity comes my way, I'm certainly up for it, but I dont pay my bills with it...LOL.
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My "hollywood days" are pretty limited...especially since I moved to FL. When opportunity comes my way, I'm certainly up for it, but I dont pay my bills with it...LOL.
Good point extras get paid minimum wage I think. No joke though Chick the flicks I have seen you in you did a nice job.
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My "hollywood days" are pretty limited...especially since I moved to FL. When opportunity comes my way, I'm certainly up for it, but I dont pay my bills with it...LOL.
Any chance for a Demons at the Door sequel?
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Good point extras get paid minimum wage I think. No joke though Chick the flicks I have seen you in you did a nice job.
He definitely should have gotten a BSA nod for I Love You, Man.
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Good point extras get paid minimum wage I think. No joke though Chick the flicks I have seen you in you did a nice job.
Thank you...
I never worked as an extra...zero to no money in it, might be LESS than min wage....commercials (if they go national) make a pretty good buck. I still get checks from Malcolm in the middle...not big anymore...but kind of funny to be getting them.
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Thank you...
I never worked as an extra...zero to no money in it, might be LESS than min wage....commercials (if they go national) make a pretty good buck. I still get checks from Malcolm in the middle...not big anymore...but kind of funny to be getting them.
I've been to a few cattle calls but never got a part been a extra a few times, guess I dont have what it takes so back to flipping burgers. ;D
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Thats correct...I've also said "Driving an unmarked white van and taking pictures of random kids kids for no reason is a little strange..." :o
;D
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My "hollywood days" are pretty limited...especially since I moved to FL. When opportunity comes my way, I'm certainly up for it, but I dont pay my bills with it...LOL.
Bob - there is always Burn Notice, I believe the only show filmed in Miami ;D
Perhaps a hitman?
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Actually...it's quite easy.
We mutually decided to not extend the contract, so I neither "quit" or was "fired", as was the two options presented...
Not too bright are you?
did you refuse to extend the contract, or did they say they could no longer afford you?
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This is true.
Like Chuck Norris, Bob does not own a house. He just walks into random houses and people move.
actually they stay and enslave themselves to serve him.
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It was a mutual decision to not extend the contract for a variety of reasons...
No hard feelings, just business..
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Thank you...
I never worked as an extra...zero to no money in it, might be LESS than min wage....commercials (if they go national) make a pretty good buck. I still get checks from Malcolm in the middle...not big anymore...but kind of funny to be getting them.
Bob, I'm suprised you didn't get cameo apperance in SEINFELD. imagine what those checks would have been like
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Bob Chick doesnt use steroids, steroids use Bob Chick
bob doesnt inject synthol, synthol injects itself in his bis when he's asleep.
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It was a mutual decision to not extend the contract for a variety of reasons...
No hard feelings, just business..
i guess they figured out you werent that well known, only appealed to a very small niche / audience and didnt make em earn as much money as they tought they d make while using your image or as a promoter. They want leaner guys who are more mainstream nowadays i guess.
The whole juiced to the gill / warrior character is a thing of the past, with internet and youtube everyone knows who's on steroids or who isnt. It still only catters to a very small portion of -retarded- individuals nowadays. I guess the biggest brands can now sell the exact same shity useless powders to the mainstream public while using well known basketball , baseball or football etc stars in ads that bring waaaay more money all year long on national tv .
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Well, I think the BSN booth will be twice bigger in the O this year, and in the ASC next year. are you cool with Coleman, Bob?.....just asking
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i guess they figured out you werent that well known, only applealed to a very small niche / audience and didnt make em earn as much money as they tought they d make while using your image or as a promoter. They want leaner guys who are more mainstream nowadays i guess.
Only took them 7 years to figure that out?
I hear ya bro....it was a 20M company when I came aboard, a 200M company now....I'm sure they're pretty pissed off...no wonder I'm no longer there.
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Congrats Bob. Lots of bottom dwellers in this thread hating on others who are more successful (a common theme at GetBig, check the nasser thread). I wish you the best of luck. BSN is a great supp company (I love their NO-Xplode! its like crack)!
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Maybe Bob will show up looking shreded at these Expos from now on
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Congrats Bob. Lots of bottom dwellers in this thread hating on others who are more successful (a common theme at GetBig, check the nasser thread). I wish you the best of luck. BSN is a great supp company (I love their NO-Xplode! its like crack)!
No it's not. It used to be but now it sucks
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Tell Alicia to call me Bob.
is she still married to that old fart?
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Only took them 7 years to figure that out?
I hear ya bro....it was a 20M company when I came aboard, a 200M company now....I'm sure they're pretty pissed off...no wonder I'm no longer there.
So you are taking credit for their 10 fold growth? Really?
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they need bob to appeal to 40 y/o guys who wish they could look like him, so they ll put his torso on some labels and in some ads trying to target this audience i guess.
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Can you give us the growth projections for your new company, Bob?
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they need bob to appeal to 40 y/o guys who wish they could look like him, so they ll put his torso on some labels and in some ads trying to target this audience i guess.
no offense to Bob
but
40+ year old guys do not want to look like him
not that they will-but they want to look like Matt Macaughnahy(sp) or Brad Pitt
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I know...those $400 shirts sure are hot!
sorry this bothers you so much, I see you've mentioned it quite a few times now...
Bob
you don't really spend $400 on a shirt(s), do you?
I do hope they are given to you
hella way to piss $$$ away
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Congrats broskie....lifetime of teh NO EXPLODE.. Better than money
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Bob, can you tell me the numbers to this weeks lottery jackpot? Also, who really killed JFk?
:D
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Only took them 7 years to figure that out?
I hear ya bro....it was a 20M company when I came aboard, a 200M company now....I'm sure they're pretty pissed off...no wonder I'm no longer there.
Wait, you're saying it went from 20M to 200M in 7 years???
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Wait, you're saying it went from 20M to 200M in 7 years???
and according to bob it was his doing!
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Bob chick has already won the 2011 Masters Pro
hahahahaha on a roll here
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So you are taking credit for their 10 fold growth? Really?
Is that what it says?
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Is that what it says?
Im gonna start using that one!
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I just want to know if my bb.com "Chick Magnet" is now going to be worth gobs of money on e-bay.
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Maria Shriver turned down Arnold and tried to marry Bob....the Kennedys were trying to breed bullet-proof kids.
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Tell Alicia to call me Bob.
O.K....but what will she call me then?
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O.K....but what will she call me then?
Chick, will you do me a favor and leave BSN?? I would really appreciate if you would leave BSN and let Steve be sponsored by BSN. :) Thanks and have a good one. ;)
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Bob
you don't really spend $400 on a shirt(s), do you?
I do hope they are given to you
hella way to piss $$$ away
Bob doesn't buy them. They are gifts after a hard nights work at the mirage.
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Congrats broskie....lifetime of teh NO EXPLODE.. Better than money
It's "N.O." EXPLODE...if it were "NO" Explode, it wouldnt really do anything
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It's "N.O." EXPLODE...if it were "NO" Explode, it wouldnt really do anything
It doesn't do anything, trust me. ;)
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It doesn't do anything, trust me. ;)
Shittin me.. That shit works for real...i tried that other nano vapor...it just made me red..
Have you tried the N.O. Explode...If you use a bottle and then chill for like a week and then start again...it works good before you lift...
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Congrats Bob... but can we make one request?
PLEASE don't be the guy parroting that terrible annual rumor that "I heard it from a very good source that Ronnie Coleman is planning a comeback at the Olympia..."
Ronnie is done, he's quite injured, and that rumor comes up once a year from some uninformed lackey told to deliver buzz to the boards to keep King Coleman relevant.
Aside from that, party on...
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Bob obviously had market value or he wouldn't have been sought after by BB.com to begin with and he wouldn't have been there for so long. He's wide and he's White, what more is there? ;D
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When the BSN news was going around it seemed like he was going to be working for BSN and Bodybuilding.com. Bob just said on PBW that he's not with BB.com anymore. Bob, how long were you there? Was it from the start of the company? I thought you were a partial owner of that site? The end of an era!
I was told that Bob moving on (in whatever way it happened) from BB.com was more due to their FDA raids on products than anything else. It is amongst the top visited sites in the world by new traffic and perhaps they (Liberty Media) want to sort of get away from the drug look so as to get less attention (not saying Bob looks on drugs, but most people ain't that big in this country unless obesity counts), so it from what I was told was business and not personal. I was told they loved Bob and his promotion and dedication.
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so did the ifbb 'powers that be' convince BSN it would be a good idea to sign chick to a contract if they wanted their athletes to continue placing good? I see this move as the IFBB rewarding and sticking up for chick after he lost his bb.com contract. Chick has spent many years on this site defending the ifbb rigorously, I see this as them returning the favor.
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Actually...it's quite easy.
We mutually decided to not extend the contract, so I neither "quit" or was "fired", as was the two options presented...
Not too bright are you?
We mutually decided to not extend the contract=
bb.com: Bob, we've decided to go in a different direction. We won't be renewing your contract.
chick: Oh, really, oh...well...uh...that's cool....I...uh...think I...uh...will go in a different...uh...directi on...too...
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I was told that Bob moving on (in whatever way it happened) from BB.com was more due to their FDA raids on products than anything else. It is amongst the top visited sites in the world by new traffic and perhaps they (Liberty Media) want to sort of get away from the drug look so as to get less attention (not saying Bob looks on drugs, but most people ain't that big in this country unless obesity counts), so it from what I was told was business and not personal. I was told they loved Bob and his promotion and dedication.
Would make sense. After all no-one seems to think MMA fighters are juiced because all juice does is automatically build large muscles! People are dumb...
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so did the ifbb 'powers that be' convince BSN it would be a good idea to sign chick to a contract if they wanted their athletes to continue placing good? I see this move as the IFBB rewarding and sticking up for chick after he lost his bb.com contract. Chick has spent many years on this site defending the ifbb rigorously, I see this as them returning the favor.
LOL...
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LOL...
lol you like that chick dont you? conspiracy theory or reality?
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It was a mutual decision to not extend the contract for a variety of reasons...
No hard feelings, just business..
Mutual decision ? Coincidentally you'll both came to the conclusion that Bob chick wasn't adding value to the company ?
btw - do you still claim to have access to all of bb.com customer's credit card info ?
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lol you like that chick dont you? conspiracy theory or reality?
Just silly...
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Seems to me Bob is getting what he deserves and he deserves what he gets. New company, new state, new lifestyle.
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Good for chick though, for real. Not sure why this has received so much attention though. Guess bodybuilding is desperate for some gossip and drama
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btw - do you still claim to have access to all of bb.com customer's credit card info ?
Hi 240 or Bust.
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LMAO!
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We mutually decided to not extend the contract=
bb.com: Bob, we've decided to go in a different direction. We won't be renewing your contract.
chick: Oh, really, oh...well...uh...that's cool....I...uh...think I...uh...will go in a different...uh...directi on...too...
bb.com: Uhh Bob, we've decided to go in a different direction, we're going to appeal to muffin top soccer mom's who want to lose that extra 15 lbs. so we've decided to bring on board a younger better looking version of you, Bob meet your replacement with more then 250 magazine covers: Frank Sepe
Bob: uhh....this isn't gonna end well..
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Sepe? I dunno who this new dude is.
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Bob, did King Kamali offer you the opportunity to join Team Plazmosis?
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Seems to me Bob is getting what he deserves and he deserves what he gets. New company, new state, new lifestyle.
New lifestyle?
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Just silly...
Looks like Milos is wide open for the position.
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I was told that Bob moving on (in whatever way it happened) from BB.com was more due to their FDA raids on products than anything else. It is amongst the top visited sites in the world by new traffic and perhaps they (Liberty Media) want to sort of get away from the drug look so as to get less attention (not saying Bob looks on drugs, but most people ain't that big in this country unless obesity counts), so it from what I was told was business and not personal. I was told they loved Bob and his promotion and dedication.
exactly, their new models are all young mostly natural lifters who only did one or two cycles at best, far more appealing to the mainstream public that the unrealistic fat slob with synthol in his arms who fucked up his body for 20 years + juicing like crazy.
i bet chick is going to be more humble now. He's been quite the loud mouth when he was on top... Back with us mere mortals !
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In all honesty, i am not sure this is the best move for bb.com. Think about it, they used photos of chick when he was in top shape and he did look pretty good. All the teenagers see those pics and that is what they want to look like; a big dude with a powerful looking physique.
Pretty sure whoever they replace him with is probably going to be a twink at around 160lbs with abs, not exactly the kind of physique most teenagers and young men want. And lets face it, those people are the majority of the market segment in the supplement market.
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It's "N.O." EXPLODE...if it were "NO" Explode, it wouldnt really do anything
Bob, some of these numbnuts only know "expolde" when they FART.
Congrats on getting the BSN deal. On a serious note, guys like me are the target market I would imagine.
With you on board, it makes me look at useing BSN products.
At 51 now, I have a few extra bucks now and don't mind spending $$ on a quality product from a company I respect.
Go BOB!
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Bob, some of these numbnuts only know "expolde" when they FART.
Congrats on getting the BSN deal. On a serious note, guys like me are the target market I would imagine.
With you on board, it makes me look at useing BSN products.
At 51 now, I have a few extra bucks now and don't mind spending $$ on a quality product from a company I respect.
Go BOB!
oh my goodness
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LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Bob, some of these numbnuts only know "expolde" when they FART.
Congrats on getting the BSN deal. On a serious note, guys like me are the target market I would imagine.
With you on board, it makes me look at useing BSN products.
At 51 now, I have a few extra bucks now and don't mind spending $$ on a quality product from a company I respect.
Go BOB!
(http://www.erichufschmid.net/Dumb-down/super-retard.JPG)
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exactly, their new models are all young mostly natural lifters who only did one or two cycles at best, far more appealing to the mainstream public that the unrealistic fat slob with synthol in his arms who fucked up his body for 20 years + juicing like crazy.
i bet chick is going to be more humble now. He's been quite the loud mouth when he was on top... Back with us mere mortals !
Sorry to ruin your day...but I'm even more on top now. New company,. pay raise, creative input on the product line and company, etc, etc...
I'm not hired by companies to be humble...
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Bob, some of these numbnuts only know "expolde" when they FART.
Congrats on getting the BSN deal. On a serious note, guys like me are the target market I would imagine.
With you on board, it makes me look at useing BSN products.
At 51 now, I have a few extra bucks now and don't mind spending $$ on a quality product from a company I respect.
Go BOB!
please kill yourself...
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Sorry to ruin your day...but I'm even more on top now. New company,. pay raise, creative input on the product line and company, etc, etc...
You know... with your creative input... and since "mma fans don't buy supplements"... they can afford to pay you by ending their relationship with the UFC. Those would be your advices right Chicaroo?
Another brilliant move by BS Nutrition ::)
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Sorry to ruin your day...but I'm even more on top now. New company,. pay raise, creative input on the product line and company, etc, etc...
I'm not hired by companies to be humble...
Thats gangsta
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Sorry to ruin your day...but I'm even more on top now. New company,. pay raise, creative input on the product line and company, etc, etc...
I'm not hired by companies to be humble...
Wow! A pay raise? So that means you were making less than 20 grand at BB.com? I mean BSN wouldn't pay you more than they recently offered an 8 time Olympia winner, would they?
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Sorry to ruin your day...but I'm even more on top now. New company,. pay raise, creative input on the product line and company, etc, etc...
I'm not hired by companies to be humble...
good for you then, i didnt know the new deal was BETTER than the previous one. But again that's what you say , who knows if it's true.
the "creative input" part is also... well...you know, laughable.
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Sorry to ruin your day...but I'm even more on top now. New company,. pay raise, creative input on the product line and company, etc, etc...
I'm not hired by companies to be humble...
C'mon, Bob Chick doesn't wear a watch... He decides what time is is 8)
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good for you then, i didnt know the new deal was BETTER than the previous one. But again that's what you say , who knows if it's true.
the "creative input" part is also... well...you know, laughable.
Laughable?...remember that when your punching out at work, son.
I get paid to work out and shake hands/ kiss babies...most people would trade places in a second rather than work a 9-5 ...it's the difference between having a "job" and having a "career".
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Laughable?...remember that when your punching out at work, son.
I get paid to work out and shake hands/ kiss babies...most people would trade places in a second rather than work a 9-5 ...it's the difference between having a "job" and having a "career".
Amen to that brother. It's called "Livin' the dream".
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Laughable?...remember that when your punching out at work, son.
I get paid to work out and shake hands/ kiss babies...most people would trade places in a second rather than work a 9-5 ...it's the difference between having a "job" and having a "career".
Sorry bob, but by the recent pics posted, it looks as if you havent worked out in a long time. As for creative input, how about spiking no-explode and syntha-6 with some dbol so they actually work?
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Sorry bob, but by the recent pics posted, it looks as if you havent worked out in a long time. As for creative input, how about spiking no-explode and syntha-6 with some dbol so they actually work?
Really?...post one
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Laughable?...remember that when your punching out at work, son.
I get paid to work out and shake hands/ kiss babies...most people would trade places in a second rather than work a 9-5 ...it's the difference between having a "job" and having a "career".
lol, bob chick has nothing but contempt for the common man :) :)
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lol, bob chick has nothing but contempt for the common man :) :)
Just the idiots...
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Bob looking large this weekend
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Bob looking large this weekend
Is he wearing Pink Nike Shox?? :o
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Laughable?...remember that when your punching out at work, son.
I get paid to work out and shake hands/ kiss babies...most people would trade places in a second rather than work a 9-5 ...it's the difference between having a "job" and having a "career".
Ouch! Not many of us are that lucky though Bob. You lucked out totally. I know you're a hard worker and what not, but you had a specific personality at a time the sport needed it. That was all timing, not schooling. You're a very lucky fellow
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Ouch! Not many of us are that lucky though Bob. You lucked out totally. I know you're a hard worker and what not, but you had a specific personality at a time the sport needed it. That was all timing, not schooling. You're a very lucky fellow
Luck?
I take exception to that...luck has had little to nothing to do with whatever level of success i've achieved....you make your own luck
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Luck?
I take exception to that...luck has had little to nothing to do with whatever level of success i've achieved....you make your own luck
Will this conflict with your egg white sales?
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Will this conflict with your egg white sales?
Why would it?
Only if BSN comes up with a "Synthaeggwhite-6"
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Why would it?
Well dude I dont know if BSN sells egg whites are not do they?
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Well dude I dont know if BSN sells egg whites are not do they?
What are you, Yoda?
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Luck?
I take exception to that...luck has had little to nothing to do with whatever level of success i've achieved....you make your own luck
no, in a sport where most of these "professionals" labor to complete a single cohesive though
you happen to be one of the few former competitors who can verbalize ideas without sounding like they are developmentally disabled
you have benefited from this...
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Luck?
I take exception to that...luck has had little to nothing to do with whatever level of success i've achieved....you make your own luck
Gotta agree with you there Bob, it's not about luck but sacrifices. Not everybody is willing to do what you did, to get where you are today.
Your success is built on decades of drug abuse, and the sacrifice you eventually gotta pay for your "career" can't be assessed yet. Maybe in 10-15 years you are the one who would love to trade places with "average Joe". ;)
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Luck?
I take exception to that...luck has had little to nothing to do with whatever level of success i've achieved....you make your own luck
Nah, you're lucky :D Don't get me wrong, you're a smart pretty noble dude. I've met you many times. To land a career after university isn't luck. But to land a job that essentially emulates what you are as a bodybuilder is pretty lucky. Not many people get such opportunities. You're getting sponsored and you don't even compete anymore, that's pretty rare. You're a poster boy that a company feels will bring them more popularity and ultimately more sales. Nothing wrong with being a poster boy and getting paid so don't take that the wrong way. For not becoming Mr. O or anything of such you've done pretty damn good with what you have and you're much better off than most top competitive pro's.
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Gotta agree with you there Bob, it's not about luck but sacrifices. Not everybody is willing to do what you did, to get where you are today.
Your success is built on decades of drug abuse, and the sacrifice you eventually gotta pay for your "career" can't be assessed yet. Maybe in 10-15 years you are the one who would love to trade places with "average Joe". ;)
LOL...please...like "average Joe" is the apitome of health and wellness??
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Nah, you're lucky :D Don't get me wrong, you're a smart pretty noble dude. I've met you many times. To land a career after university isn't luck. But to land a job that essentially emulates what you are as a bodybuilder is pretty lucky. Not many people get such opportunities. You're getting sponsored and you don't even compete anymore, that's pretty rare. You're a poster boy that a company feels will bring them more popularity and ultimately more sales. Nothing wrong with being a poster boy and getting paid so don't take that the wrong way. For not becoming Mr. O or anything of such you've done pretty damn good with what you have and you're much better off than most top competitive pro's.
FORTUNATE, is the word your looking for...not lucky. I've been fortunate to have made a lot of the right decisions, and been fortunate to have had a lot of good people around me for many years...I've been fortunate to have the ability to use my talents as a spokesman to further my career.
I appreciate the sentiment..
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It's like me: I'm a bad ass good looking dude, so slammin girls are drawn to me. I don't really have to do much work, it comes more less natural. My girl is a homerun hitting and top university grad who's about to land and excellent paying career. I'm lucky, that's all. :D
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FORTUNATE, is the word your looking for...not lucky. I've been fortunate to have made a lot of the right decisions, and been fortunate to have had a lot of good people around me for many years...I've been fortunate to have the ability to use my talents as a spokesman to further my career.
I appreciate the sentiment..
Ok, I will agree with that ;D
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It's like me: I'm a bad ass good looking dude, so slammin girls are drawn to me. I don't really have to do much work, it comes more less natural. My girl is a homerun hitting and top university grad who's about to land and excellent paying career. I'm lucky, that's all. :D
Wouldn't count on that lol. Within half a year she'll dump you for a guy in her league (and not 3 leagues below like you), realizing she can do much better.
Being dependent on the income of a bitch as a guy is the most pathetic thing I've ever heared of.
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What are you, Yoda?
Maybe I dont use BSN products so no clue on wtf they have.
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Chick, why does BSN not even have a decent Whey Protein??
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Wouldn't count on that lol. Within half a year she'll dump you for a guy in her league (and not 3 leagues below like you), realizing she can do much better.
Being dependent on the income of a bitch as a guy is the most pathetic thing I've ever heared of.
You're dumb. #1. You don't know what I do for a living and #2. I don't get dumped and #3 we're common law and probably getting married soon. We've been together 3 years already :D
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You're dumb. #1. You don't know what I do for a living and #2. I don't get dumped and #3 we're common law and probably getting married soon. We've been together 3 years already :D
What do you do for a living?
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It's like me: I'm a bad ass good looking dude, so slammin girls are drawn to me. I don't really have to do much work, it comes more less natural. My girl is a homerun hitting and top university grad who's about to land and excellent paying career. I'm lucky, that's all. :D
Your girls' going to MLB...?
Excellent!
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Your girls' going to MLB...?
Excellent!
:D :D
I was kidding guys, about bragging about being so good looking btw.
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I look after amateur and professional athletes, basically an agent, and search for new talent
the getbillionaires club strikes again... :-\ :-\
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the getbillionaires club strikes again... :-\ :-\
not even close. By no means making a huge salary
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I look after amateur and professional athletes, basically an agent, and search for new talent
Does this include bodybuilders?
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Does this include bodybuilders?
No
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creative input = allowing a company to use ones roided up photos to sell useless powders
Sorry to ruin your day...but I'm even more on top now. New company,. pay raise, creative input on the product line and company, etc, etc...
I'm not hired by companies to be humble...
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bobby chicky boom boom please ask bsn people to take out corn syrup solids from their syntha six protein
also, u mentioned u are gonna have like creative contributions in the company or something but dont forget ronnie coleman works for them too and i think theyre gonna give his ideas prefernce over yours fyi
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good for you then, i didnt know the new deal was BETTER than the previous one. But again that's what you say , who knows if it's true.
the "creative input" part is also... well...you know, laughable.
why are you talking like are an authority on the matter or that you have the slightest idea of chick's new contract? or even that you "know" what the supplements company main company objectives are and that bob chick could not help them achieve any of these goals?
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http://bsnonline.com/misc/news_expanded.php?id=389
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http://bsnonline.com/misc/news_expanded.php?id=389
bob r u sure they spelled your last name right it looks weird
plus in the article it says u have great respect for the product line
with that being said-what are your fav bsn supps to use and why?which stacks do u reccomend? which of their protein powders do u like to use post workout or before bed? also how important is taking an anabolic supplement when in contest prep?
also my friend is a mma fan and would like to know what bsn supps he should use to recover from workouts.
thanks
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bob r u sure they spelled your last name right it looks weird
plus in the article it says u have great respect for the product line
with that being said-what are your fav bsn supps to use and why?which stacks do u reccomend? which of their protein powders do u like to use post workout or before bed? also how important is taking an anabolic supplement when in contest prep?
also my friend is a mma fan and would like to know what bsn supps he should use to recover from workouts.
thanks
Bob was under the impression that no actual questions would be asked. :)
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bob r u sure they spelled your last name right it looks weird
plus in the article it says u have great respect for the product line
with that being said-what are your fav bsn supps to use and why?which stacks do u reccomend? which of their protein powders do u like to use post workout or before bed? also how important is taking an anabolic supplement when in contest prep?
also my friend is a mma fan and would like to know what bsn supps he should use to recover from workouts.
thanks
great post, I was wondering the same things, NW really testing Bob's knowledge of his new company !!
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bob r u sure they spelled your last name right it looks weird
No, I'm not sure...
plus in the article it says u have great respect for the product line
Thats right...one of the top 2 in the industry
with that being said-what are your fav bsn supps to use and why?
I dont know, I just signed the contract Sat
which stacks do u reccomend?
I dont know, I just signed the contract Sat
which of their protein powders do u like to use post workout or before bed?
I dont know, I just signed the contract Sat
also how important is taking an anabolic supplement when in contest prep?
Depends on the individual
also my friend is a mma fan and would like to know what bsn supps he should use to recover from workouts.
Whats the difference if he's a fan of MMA?
thanks
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http://bsnonline.com/misc/news_expanded.php?id=389
Congratulations,Bob
When will we can see more your videos on BSN's YouTubehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXG7KaZD3FA&feature=channel (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXG7KaZD3FA&feature=channel)
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congrats BMC
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O.K....but what will she call me then?
AL?
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I am guessing around 30K for 2 years = 15K per + free tank tops?
isn't it a conflict of interest that he works for bb.com as well? also I don't see how this helps BSN. Get some NFL pretty boy like Brady Quinn (no homo) like that other company did.
wow, huge money
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Team BSN® continued its expansion and made a big splash at the 2010 Europa Show of Champions this past weekend in Orlando, adding yet another standout name to the roster in IFBB pro and bodybuilding icon Bob Cicherillo!
LOL.
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Chick will regret leaving BB.com
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Chick will regret leaving BB.com
I doubt it. Why? His lline of work almost requires he move to various outlets to stay fresh and in the mix.
Bob isn't lucky, he is ambitious about the business end of BB and fitness.
Sure, plenty of pros did better then Bob on the Oylympia stage , but few made much of it.
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If he was ambitious, he would not have gotten fired from bb.com and forced to take a pay cut and rep for bsn.
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If it happens - quite interesting!
I won't be in Anaheim this weekend. Maybe Culver City next month though.
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bob is a paid puppet who doesn't even have a clue about the products he represents
at least he is honest (this time)
bob r u sure they spelled your last name right it looks weird
No, I'm not sure...
plus in the article it says u have great respect for the product line
Thats right...one of the top 2 in the industry
with that being said-what are your fav bsn supps to use and why?
I dont know, I just signed the contract Sat
which stacks do u reccomend?
I dont know, I just signed the contract Sat
which of their protein powders do u like to use post workout or before bed?
I dont know, I just signed the contract Sat
also how important is taking an anabolic supplement when in contest prep?
Depends on the individual
also my friend is a mma fan and would like to know what bsn supps he should use to recover from workouts.
Whats the difference if he's a fan of MMA?
thanks
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bob is a paid puppet who doesn't even have a clue about the products he represents
at least he is honest (this time)
Bob, when you were asked about BSN supplements, you repeated your answer of "I don't know, I just signed the contract Sat" three times.
Which begs the question, what happens when you discover that the supplements that you're being paid to promote are basically useless?
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Congradulations Chick can I get some free CELL MASS?
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Congradulations Chick can I get some free
Snake Oil
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Have you seen the cupboards of IFBB pros ? They look like shelves in GNC!
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Bob, when you were asked about BSN supplements, you repeated your answer of "I don't know, I just signed the contract Sat" three times.
Which begs the question, what happens when you discover that the supplements that you're being paid to promote are basically useless?
What do you base your opinion on?
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I remember a time most people liked BSN. It's funny, it seems once a company becomes successful and popular, all of a sudden people say their products don't work. Has BSN changed at all? They seem to have a lot of haters, like most big companies.
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bob any plans of bsn coming out w a portable protein pudding?
also, which of their supps are you most excited to try now that u are sponsored by them? and why?
will u still continue to take higher power supps or no?
thanks
gene
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I remember a time most people liked BSN. It's funny, it seems once a company becomes successful and popular, all of a sudden people say their products don't work. Has BSN changed at all? They seem to have a lot of haters, like most big companies.
Just the classic "gotta be a rebel" attitude.
When it's an obscure song, movie, team, player, supp brand, etc...then its cool to be on board. Minute they become big and out in the marketplace....then it becomes uncool to be in the mix of everyone else that likes them....
generally, this is only among the 20-something crowd (and younger)...when you get a bit older, you generally dont give a fuck who thinks your "cool" or what other people like...
Products work...people fail...simple as that.
Biggest problem I see with guys claiming they dont work, is they take something for a week, then start being inconsistant in taking the supps/ training....then when asked, say "yeah, I tried it, didnt do nothing for me..."
Second biggest problem: unrealistic expectations.
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Just the classic "gotta be a rebel" attitude.
When it's an obscure song, movie, team, player, supp brand, etc...then its cool to be on board. Minute they become big and out in the marketplace....then it becomes uncool to be in the mix of everyone else that likes them....
generally, this is only among the 20-something crowd (and younger)...when you get a bit older, you generally dont give a fuck who thinks your "cool" or what other people like...
Products work...people fail...simple as that.
Biggest problem I see with guys claiming they dont work, is they take something for a week, then start being inconsistant in taking the supps/ training....then when asked, say "yeah, I tried it, didnt do nothing for me..."
Second biggest problem: unrealistic expectations.
For sure.
I think the problem with people having high expectations falls upon most companies claims. I mean, we've been around a while and understand a supplement isn't magic, but when beginners or younger people read "building massive muscle immediately," or "increase your strength by a million % with the first dose" they really believe this is their silver bullet to build the physique of their dreams.
But yeah, the hate on certain companies is unwarranted and agree it's the "cool thing to do" approach by a lot of people.
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bob any plans of bsn coming out w a portable protein pudding?
also, which of their supps are you most excited to try now that u are sponsored by them? and why?
will u still continue to take higher power supps or no?
thanks
gene
Gene portable protein pudding good idea does anyone have this on the market yet?
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For sure.
I think the problem with people having high expectations falls upon most companies claims. I mean, we've been around a while and understand a supplement isn't magic, but when beginners or younger people read "building massive muscle immediately," or "increase your strength by a million % with the first dose" they really believe this is their silver bullet to build the physique of their dreams.
But yeah, the hate on certain companies is unwarranted and agree it's the "cool thing to do" approach by a lot of people.
Companies obviously make their products out to be the most attractive for obvious reasons....I think anyone can figure that out. Problem is....believing they will work wonders while a. not training....b. not eating properly....c. not allowing for recovery, etc...
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Companies obviously make their products out to be the most attractive for obvious reasons....I think anyone can figure that out. Problem is....believing they will work wonders while a. not training....b. not eating properly....c. not allowing for recovery, etc...
One mor time Chick: Why does BSN not even have a decent, regular Whey Protein??
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bob any plans of bsn coming out w a portable protein pudding?
also, which of their supps are you most excited to try now that u are sponsored by them? and why?
will u still continue to take higher power supps or no?
thanks
gene
LOL OMG NW you bested yourself, how can you come up with these genius ideas :D Pudding LOL, i bet you could sell that to a company and makes tons of money.
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LOL OMG NW you bested yourself, how can you come up with these genius ideas :D Pudding LOL, i bet you could sell that to a company and makes tons of money.
It's been done before
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One mor time Chick: Why does BSN not even have a decent, regular Whey Protein??
They do; Syntha-6
http://store.bsnonline.net/supplement_facts/syntha6.html
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They do; Syntha-6
http://store.bsnonline.net/supplement_facts/syntha6.html
LOL That's no Whey, that's GARBAGE. THE BIGGEST JOKE PRODUCT ON THE MARKET.
6 gr of fat, 14 gr of carbs and 22 gr of Protein. What the hell is that supposed to be?? lol
Way too much carbs, fats and calories for a Protein supplement, too slow for a post workout supp, too less carbs and cals for a Weight Gainer...??? What the heck is that?
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LOL That's no Whey, that's GARBAGE. THE BIGGEST JOKE PRODUCT ON THE MARKET.
6 gr of fat, 14 gr of carbs and 22 gr of Protein. What the hell is that supposed to be?? lol
Way too much carbs, fats and calories for a Protein supplement, too slow for a post workout supp, too less carbs and cals for a Weight Gainer...??? What the heck is that?
only 2g. are saturated...they rest your body can use....14g of carbs IS low...as for slow absorbsion, it leads to BETTER absorbsion.
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LOL That's no Whey, that's GARBAGE. THE BIGGEST JOKE PRODUCT ON THE MARKET.
6 gr of fat, 14 gr of carbs and 22 gr of Protein. What the hell is that supposed to be?? lol
Way too much carbs, fats and calories for a Protein supplement, too slow for a post workout supp, too less carbs and cals for a Weight Gainer...??? What the heck is that?
It's a meal replacement guy. How is it too slow for post workout?
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only 2g. are saturated...they rest your body can use....14g of carbs IS low...as for slow absorbsion, it leads to BETTER absorbsion.
But a real protein supplement, as low as possible in fats and carbs, they have none. Strange for one of the biggest companies out there.
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only 2g. are saturated...they rest your body can use....14g of carbs IS low...as for slow absorbsion, it leads to BETTER absorbsion.
but it has corn syrup solids in it-how come? can u ask them to take them out plz
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It's a meal replacement guy. How is it too slow for post workout?
Fat slows down the digestion + there are also slow Protein components in there (Egg, Casein).
I'm not hating, Chick is a great guy and I respect the company BSN for doing great marketing and having a huge athletes Team, but this is the most useless product I've ever seen. And the funny thing is they have another one called Lean desert protein which is almost just as bad from the nutritional facts lol. But maybe they taste good, I don't know.
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but it has corn syrup solids in it-how come? can u ask them to take them out plz
cheap shit gene thats all
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cheap shit gene thats all
The RTD'S are like $5 a pop at a gas station.
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Fat slows down the digestion + there are also slow Protein components in there (Egg, Casein).
I'm not hating, Chick is a great guy and I respect the company BSN for doing great marketing and having a huge athletes Team, but this is the most useless product I've ever seen. And the funny thing is they have another one called Lean desert protein which is almost just as bad from the nutritional facts lol. But maybe they taste good, I don't know.
But whey is the main protein, egg and casein are ideal if you don't plan on eating within the hour after taking it to keep your body in a positive nitrogen balance.
Meal replacements have their place, good for breakfast and post training.
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Just the classic "gotta be a rebel" attitude.
When it's an obscure song, movie, team, player, supp brand, etc...then its cool to be on board. Minute they become big and out in the marketplace....then it becomes uncool to be in the mix of everyone else that likes them....
generally, this is only among the 20-something crowd (and younger)...when you get a bit older, you generally dont give a fuck who thinks your "cool" or what other people like...
Products work...people fail...simple as that.
Biggest problem I see with guys claiming they dont work, is they take something for a week, then start being inconsistant in taking the supps/ training....then when asked, say "yeah, I tried it, didnt do nothing for me..."
Second biggest problem: unrealistic expectations.
what an hypocrit.
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Products work...people fail...simple as that.
Biggest problem I see with guys claiming they dont work, is they take something for a week, then start being inconsistant in taking the supps/ training....then when asked, say "yeah, I tried it, didnt do nothing for me..."
Second biggest problem: unrealistic expectations.
okay Bob hahahahahahaha
oh brother ::)
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I think BSN Products are great. (No homo)
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since you have admitted that you signed without having a clue about the products efficacy,
what happens when you realize BSN products aren't as effective as they claim?
do you scruples dictate that jump ship? or
does your "i'll sell my self to the highest bidder" philosophy dictate that you'll stay ?
Just the classic "gotta be a rebel" attitude.
When it's an obscure song, movie, team, player, supp brand, etc...then its cool to be on board. Minute they become big and out in the marketplace....then it becomes uncool to be in the mix of everyone else that likes them....
generally, this is only among the 20-something crowd (and younger)...when you get a bit older, you generally dont give a fuck who thinks your "cool" or what other people like...
Products work...people fail...simple as that.
Biggest problem I see with guys claiming they dont work, is they take something for a week, then start being inconsistant in taking the supps/ training....then when asked, say "yeah, I tried it, didnt do nothing for me..."
Second biggest problem: unrealistic expectations.
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BSN product advertising is not as bad a muscletech's though. now that is a company with just pure bs claims.
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An "icon?" How many pro contests has Boob won?
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bob im really confused
in the video i just watched u said endorush was your fav supp to take pre workout...but when i asked you about your fav bsn supps a few posts back u said "i dont know i just signed the contract"
whats going on?
u looked really tired in the video too...what happened? are u ok?
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BullShitNutrition
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wow that HRT is really working wonders chic :D
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An "icon?" How many pro contests has Boob won?
One. And miraculously, the guy in 8th place looked better than he did.
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bob im really confused
in the video i just watched u said endorush was your fav supp to take pre workout...but when i asked you about your fav bsn supps a few posts back u said "i dont know i just signed the contract"
whats going on?
u looked really tired in the video too...what happened? are u ok?
haha, busted.
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bob im really confused
in the video i just watched u said endorush was your fav supp to take pre workout...but when i asked you about your fav bsn supps a few posts back u said "i dont know i just signed the contract"
whats going on?
u looked really tired in the video too...what happened? are u ok?
Of course your confused, no surprise there...
Endorush is a pre-workout drink, pretty much works (or doesn't work) immediately...most other supplements need to be taken for a week or two in order for the body to recognize and utilize, thus, I couldn't tell you about most of the others yet.
As for being tired...yes, I am tired....of douchbags like you, wasting my time.
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Of course your confused, no surprise there...
Endorush is a pre-workout drink, pretty much works (or doesn't work) immediately...most other supplements need to be taken for a week or two in order for the body to recognize and utilize, thus, I couldn't tell you about most of the others yet.
As for being tired...yes, I am tired....of douchbags like you, wasting my time.
Maybe take some BSN supplements you got any Gensing or something that can get your energy up?
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As for being tired...yes, I am tired....of douchbags like you, wasting my time.
LOL Your One-Liners are priceless, Chick. Every company should be happy to have you on board. ;D
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Of course your confused, no surprise there...
Endorush is a pre-workout drink, pretty much works (or doesn't work) immediately...most other supplements need to be taken for a week or two in order for the body to recognize and utilize, thus, I couldn't tell you about most of the others yet.
As for being tired...yes, I am tired....of douchbags like you, wasting my time.
well...im still confused...sorry...what i dont get is why didnt u tell me about endorush when i asked you about your fav bsn supps before?
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well...im still confused...sorry...what i dont get is why didnt u tell me about endorush when i asked you about your fav bsn supps before?
Gene good point right there.
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well...im still confused...sorry...what i dont get is why didnt u tell me about endorush when i asked you about your fav bsn supps before?
Because I dont cater to people who act like douchbags 99.9% of the time, then want to ask questions expecting an answer....get lost, loser
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Because I dont cater to people who act like douchbags 99.9% of the time, then want to ask questions expecting an answer....get lost, loser
You geriatric old fuck, NW83 has always tried to be cool to you and ask you questions and you've always been a cocksucker when you answered them, why not pull your head out of your ass, you third rate wanna-be, clinging onto whatever hopes and dreams you tried to suck your way into. ::)
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Because I dont cater to people who act like douchbags 99.9% of the time, then want to ask questions expecting an answer....get lost, loser
LOL for Bob. Obviously, you know these guys don't want an actual answer. They want to try and bust your balls for shits and giggles with their "girlfriends".
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LOL for Bob. Obviously, you know these guys don't want an actual answer. They want to try and bust your balls for shits and giggles with their "girlfriends".
I thought you "retired" again? ::)
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I thought you "retired" again? ::)
Like a bad fart, the smell lingers on , long after the initial act that caused it :P
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Will Endorush give me a 45 inch waist and a receding hairline like Bob?
I want to be a salesman who talks in cliches....could NO explode help me with that?
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BullShitNutrition
absolutely, and not only BSN , ALL SUPPLEMENT COMPANIES ARE SCAMS
except for perhaps a protein powder, and perhaps a multi-vitamin......which you can get anywhere. supplements are complete scams, that do not work.
thats why they are legal, because they are pretty much inert, and dont do anything.......compounds that DO work, are all illegal and not for over-the-counter purchase
dont blame the supplement companies though, they arent hurting anyone......if individuals are stupid enough to waste their money on this junk, they deserve it
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dont blame the supplement companies though, they arent hurting anyone......if individuals are stupid enough to waste their money on this junk, they deserve it
What's your opinion on the uproar surrounding Palumbo's fat burners containing Usnic acid? A customer claims to have sustained Liver damage due to his products.
He's trying his best to silence all discussion on the topic. BB.com have pulled the guilty products.
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What's your opinion on the uproar surrounding Palumbo's fat burners containing Usnic acid? A customer claims to have sustained Liver damage due to his products.
He's trying his best to silence all discussion on the topic. BB.com have pulled the guilty products.
i think palumbo is the lowest form of life in the fitness industry, he is a scumbag and a fraud......and like you said, he controls the flow of information over there in his little shit kingdom known as RXMUSCLE
but as much as i hate palumbo, i would be willing to bet my money on this case being completely baseless
this is a litigious person looking for cash....there is no way to know what else this individual has done in the past, or in recent months that may have contributed to his condition, or if its genetic, or something else entirely.
some guy has liver damage cause he took some fat burner for a few weeks, highly unlikely........i have been around the steroid scene since i was a child.....i have seen guys abuse REAL drugs, for long periods of time, drugs that REALLY are hard on the liver.........and NO ONE i know has ever had a medical problem beyond some hairloss or passing acne
this person is a liar...
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getting caught up in your lies ...on a message board no less
BSN must be proud
Of course your confused, no surprise there...
Endorush is a pre-workout drink, pretty much works (or doesn't work) immediately...most other supplements need to be taken for a week or two in order for the body to recognize and utilize, thus, I couldn't tell you about most of the others yet.
As for being tired...yes, I am tired....of douchbags like you, wasting my time.
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Howie....
i'll let you in on a little secret...
chick is paid to tell you that he uses BSN supplements, when he really doesn't.
So do't go out to your local GNC just because he told you that he uses them.
He is a bought and paid for puppet.
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Howie....
i'll let you in on a little secret...
chick is paid to tell you that he uses BSN supplements, when he really doesn't.
So do't go out to your local GNC just because he told you that he uses them.
He is a bought and paid for puppet.
Pssst...here's a little "secret"....I wasnt hired to tell people I take the products, nor do I compete anymore,,,perhaps your just another clueless idiot that doesnt know what he's talking about...
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someone should link BSN CEO and marketing team this thread. Chick is taking a savage beating.
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someone should link BSN CEO and marketing team this thread. Chick is taking a savage beating.
Yeah, I wonder how BSN feels about it's newest member calling potential customers "losers" and "douchebags"? :-\
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Yeah, I wonder how BSN feels about it's newest member calling potential customers "losers" and "douchebags"? :-\
Any kind of propaganda is good propaganda.
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You geriatric old fuck, NW83 has always tried to be cool to you and ask you questions and you've always been a cocksucker when you answered them, why not pull your head out of your ass, you third rate wanna-be, clinging onto whatever hopes and dreams you tried to suck your way into. ::)
Simmer down pussy face.
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Ease up on Bob retards. It's not his fault he's successful and acquires lucrative contracts. Chick is cool and a good guy. You should give him credit that he even responses to some of your shit. :-*
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Simmer down pussy face.
Watch your mouth, convict.
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Watch your mouth, convict.
Ooh so why am I a convict? Where do you think I'm from pussy face? haha
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Yeah, I wonder how BSN feels about it's newest member calling potential customers "losers" and "douchebags"? :-\
What potential customers are those? YOU?? LOLOLOL!!!
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Fuck the haters Bob,and congrats buddy.
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What potential customers are those? YOU?? LOLOLOL!!!
bob i know youre only kidding around when u are mean to me so let me ask u this: ive had ok results w stimulant pre workout supps in the past-but im thinking of trying out bsn stuff-would u pick n o explode or endorush? which flavor of the endo do u prefer?
and for a shake before bed, would u reccomend lean dessert or syntha?
thanks for your time
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Ooh so why am I a convict? Where do you think I'm from pussy face? haha
It doesn't matter where you're from, convict.
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oh god in heaven
bsn has made a horrible decision and they will soon realize that
now im never gonna try any bsn stuff
too late...seems youve already made your decision. Best of luck
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too late...seems youve already made your decision. Best of luck
Gene is a good dude Chick can you not answer his question ?
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Man, I'm so surprised that Bob still posts here with all the shit that he puts up with around you guys!
Why's everybody got something to say? and so pissed at the guy for doing well for himself! He's a great ambassador of the sport!
Why can't we all just get along? Kumbaya baby!
(http://www.socialtext.com/blog/KumbayaCrowd.jpg)
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Man, I'm so surprised that Bob still posts here with all the shit that he puts up with around you guys!
Chick enjoys the smack talking on here himself, don't worry. That's why he's still here. ;D
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too late...seems youve already made your decision. Best of luck
no luck needed bob im fine in life
im the exact type of consumer u should be trying to convince to try the bsn line...the type who thinks hes made his mind up...all right bob-what are some good reasons to switch over to bsn
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no luck needed bob im fine in life
im the exact type of consumer u should be trying to convince to try the bsn line...the type who thinks hes made his mind up...all right bob-what are some good reasons to switch over to bsn
He doesn't know Gene, by his own admission, he's only used one product they put out.
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He doesn't know Gene, by his own admission, he's only used one product they put out.
ok-youre right chaos
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no luck needed bob im fine in life
im the exact type of consumer u should be trying to convince to try the bsn line...the type who thinks hes made his mind up...all right bob-what are some good reasons to switch over to bsn
Seems Chick isnt interested in Sales.
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Seems Chick isnt interested in Sales.
I hope it was worth it to Chick to turn his back on the company that made him famous to go to BSN and shill their products that he won't even try.
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Seems Chick isnt interested in Sales.
what do you mean Chick isn't interested in sales?
Bob is responsible for potentially one more consumer (Howie) purchasing a BSN product someday in the future.
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what do you mean Chick isn't interested in sales?
Bob is responsible for potentially one more consumer (Howie) purchasing a BSN product someday in the future?
I read Chick's Book and he tells me to do evil things. :D
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I hope it was worth it to Chick to turn his back on the company that made him famous to go to BSN and shill their products that he won't even try.
Turn my back?....LOL
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Chick signs on with a successful supplement company in a prominent position, and some people want to portray this in a negative light? I must be missing something. Or perhaps it is merely people's inherent jealousy showing through.
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lol NW owned Bob hard on the comment then the video of chick saying he likes endorush! Someone's gotta email this owning to BSN they will get a laugh out of it.
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lol NW owned Bob hard on the comment then the video of chick saying he likes endorush! Someone's gotta email this owning to BSN they will get a laugh out of it.
wow...didnt think there was a bigger retard than NW, but here you are....
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Chick is a good man , congrats Bob on the contract :)
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congrats Bob
ignore the twinks
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Chick is a good man , congrats Bob on the contract :)
Indeed. Never understood why he gets so upset with Gene tho.
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Indeed. Never understood why he gets so upset with Gene tho.
Cant play into the trolls...only encourages them.
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Cant play into the trolls...only encourages them.
Gene?! Trolling?! :o I'm shocked!!
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Just the classic "gotta be a rebel" attitude.
When it's an obscure song, movie, team, player, supp brand, etc...then its cool to be on board. Minute they become big and out in the marketplace....then it becomes uncool to be in the mix of everyone else that likes them....
generally, this is only among the 20-something crowd (and younger)...when you get a bit older, you generally dont give a fuck who thinks your "cool" or what other people like...
Products work...people fail...simple as that.
Biggest problem I see with guys claiming they dont work, is they take something for a week, then start being inconsistant in taking the supps/ training....then when asked, say "yeah, I tried it, didnt do nothing for me..."
Second biggest problem: unrealistic expectations.
Third biggest problem: Crappy diets and inconsistent training (i.e. these are the guys that are hogging the bench press and curl stations on Monday but won't touch a squat rack if you paid them. And they're nowhere to be found on Friday; you can see the tumbleweeds blow throughout the gym).
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BSN signs Ronnie Coleman, the international market for BSN skyrockets to record sales that year.
BSN signs Forest Griggin, the MMA market moves up tremendously for them.
BSN signs Trey Brewer and Brando Curry, two big bodybiulders who also had quit an audience and following.
Cant complain about BSN, who are one of the top 5 supplement companies out there, and have a great workforce, including good friends that work there.
here in Brazil no one knew what BSN was before they signed with Ronnie and did some tours with him in the country. After that i see BSN in almost every supplement store out there (and here its quite expensive)!!!
in the supplement business, having anything to do with guys like Ronnie or Cutler will always bring a following. Phil Heath should be a very good option too, since he has a markeatable look i think
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what do you mean Chick isn't interested in sales?
Bob is responsible for potentially one more consumer (Howie) purchasing a BSN product someday in the future.
LOL, yeah Chick and BSN had me at "Endo rush" :P
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you were hired to be another puppet telling everyone how great bsn products are (e.g. your "interview") when you haven't even tried the crap..
perhaps they did not hire you for your honesty
Pssst...here's a little "secret"....I wasnt hired to tell people I take the products, nor do I compete anymore,,,perhaps your just another clueless idiot that doesnt know what he's talking about...
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your inability to speak the truth is quite entertaining
Cant play into the trolls...only encourages them.
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you were hired to be another puppet telling everyone how great bsn products are (e.g. your "interview") when you haven't even tried the crap..
perhaps they did not hire you for your honesty
If I were dishonest, I would have just stated how great the products were and how I've been taking them for years...
As for being a "puppet"...just what are youy in your job? They tell you what to do and you do it, guess that makes you a puppet, right? They tell you when to show up, what your role is, how to do it...
Have fun punching the clock tomorrow...I'll be preparing to fly to Pittsburgh to shake hands and kiss babies...I'll save a 8X10 just for you!
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bob i went and bought the endorush u spoke about in your video interview...how many mins do u advise taking it pre workout...how long after u take it till u feel it
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thanks bro
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bob i went and bought the endorush u spoke about in your video interview...how many mins do u advise taking it pre workout...how long after u take it till u feel it
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thanks bro
The good folks at BSN were kind enough to supply all that information right on the label...just for YOU!
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bob i went and bought the endorush u spoke about in your video interview...how many mins do u advise taking it pre workout...how long after u take it till u feel it
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thanks bro
why does chick always dodge your questions Gene?
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The good folks at BSN were kind enough to supply all that information right on the label...just for YOU!
thats cool-and i appreciate that-but ive taken pre workout supps in the past before and i would notice even if the label said to take it 30 mins pre workout-i would start feeling the effects like 15 mins after...when u take the endo-how soon do u feel the effects...how much water do u personally use etc etc
thanks bob
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haha Bob expect plenty of these questions about the BSN products to follow
getbiggers will ensure you earn every dollar of that contract ;D
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thats cool-and i appreciate that-but ive taken pre workout supps in the past before and i would notice even if the label said to take it 30 mins pre workout-i would start feeling the effects like 15 mins after...when u take the endo-how soon do u feel the effects...how much water do u personally use etc etc
thanks bob
x2 good question, Chick should know he took it, and as a representative of BSN should answer your question in a timely and professional manner.
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Bob, I always drink a large strong coffee before each of my workouts. Coffee always fires me up before I go to war with the iron, plus I love the taste of it.
But now you have me intrigued about Endorush. How exactly is it more beneficial than coffee as a pre-workout drink? Thanks
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I hope it was worth it to Chick to turn his back on the company that made him famous to go to BSN and shill their products that he won't even try.
Hi Steve Blechman's son.
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The good folks at BSN were kind enough to supply all that information right on the label...just for YOU!
Geez bob...ya can't just answer the question ? I know he's a stupid tool...but you are kinda REPRESENTING THE COMPANY now? People expect you to know their products inside and out, even the morons.
If i went to buy a car and asked the salesman a question and he said "read the brochure" i would be looking at a different car
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Bob, I am excited to here you are now with BSN. I am thinking now of purchasing some of their products. I would first like to get your opinion on there Protein Powder, Syntha-6. Do you think the amount of carbs is detrimental to taking after I workout at night after 9:15pm if I go to bed at 11:45pm? Please looking forward to the answer.
jt
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Bob, I am excited to here you are now with BSN. I am thinking now of purchasing some of their products. I would first like to get your opinion on there Protein Powder, Syntha-6. Do you think the amount of carbs is detrimental to taking after I workout at night after 9:15pm if I go to bed at 11:45pm? Please looking forward to the answer.
jt
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Geez bob...ya can't just answer the question ? I know he's a stupid tool...but you are kinda REPRESENTING THE COMPANY now? People expect you to know their products inside and out, even the morons.
If i went to buy a car and asked the salesman a question and he said "read the brochure" i would be looking at a different car
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In all fairness to Bob... he never expected "answering questions," to be part of his Job Description. One does not need to know anything about BSN, in order to tell everyone how great they are! :D
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In all fairness to Bob... he never expected "answering questions," to be part of his Job Description. One does not need to know anything about BSN, in order to tell everyone how great they are! :D
LOLOL....I wonder if the guy signing the checks knows his new spokesman says "read the fucking label" when a potential customer asks him a question
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LOL!
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The bottom line is Bob has carved a niche because he can talk. Look at the muscleheads he is competing with and you know why he got picked. Quite surprising that such a tactless individual can represent supplement companies.
Maybe Goatboy got Bob sacked from his BB Com? Remember the egg white debate here? There are younger guys out there so Bob will be retiring soon. He had better enjoy this employment while he still gets offers. I guess being in the know helps in the Irongame?
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If I were dishonest, I would have just stated how great the products were and how I've been taking them for years...
As for being a "puppet"...just what are youy in your job? They tell you what to do and you do it, guess that makes you a puppet, right? They tell you when to show up, what your role is, how to do it...
Have fun punching the clock tomorrow...I'll be preparing to fly to Pittsburgh to shake hands and kiss babies...I'll save a 8X10 just for you!
Bob, I don't think it wise for a public eye spokesman like you should "rub it in" when it comes to your lifestyle and success compred to many of us 9-5 working slobs. I understand your frustration when dealing with some forum morons.
I don't punch a clock and have a career as an educator which is hardly glamorous.
Like many fans , I admire your success, but don't like it thrown in our faces.
No
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Bob, I don't think it wise for a public eye spokesman like you should "rub it in" when it comes to your lifestyle and success compred to many of us 9-5 working slobs. I understand your frustration when dealing with some forum morons.
I don't punch a clock and have a career as an educator which is hardly glamorous.
Like many fans , I admire your success, but don't like it thrown in our faces.
No
"educator" sounds like a glamorous word for a school teacher.
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I wonder how Mr. BSN would feel reading Chicky's flippant answers to questions about the products he is supposed to rep. Maybe someone should e-mail the discourse to Mr. BSN and ask him.
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I predict Bob will leave us shortly after an announcement that he's "excited to have been invited to join the adventure" at some BSN forum. :(
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I predict Bob will leave us shortly after an announcement that he's "excited to have been invited to join the adventure" at some BSN forum. :(
are you implying that Bob, as a representative of BSN, is unable to provide straightforward helpful answers to legitimate questions about BSN supplements on Getbig?
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Bob, I don't think it wise for a public eye spokesman like you should "rub it in" when it comes to your lifestyle and success compred to many of us 9-5 working slobs. I understand your frustration when dealing with some forum morons.
I don't punch a clock and have a career as an educator which is hardly glamorous.
Like many fans , I admire your success, but don't like it thrown in our faces.
No
It gets rubbed in to the idiots who deserve it. You've always been cool, Howie...and dont make stupid comments which would get responded in kind as well...
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I wonder how Mr. BSN would feel reading Chicky's flippant answers to questions about the products he is supposed to rep. Maybe someone should e-mail the discourse to Mr. BSN and ask him.
Feel free..
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"educator" sounds like a glamorous word for a school teacher.
LOL , yup , been a HS chemistry and physics teacher for the last 20 yrs.
Stable and rewarding (at times) but hardly a big money maker or glamorous life.
I am doing the best I can to lead a decent productive life like most working slobs.
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It gets rubbed in to the idiots who deserve it. You've always been cool, Howie...and dont make stupid comments which would get responded in kind as well...
Bob, unlike most on these forums I post under my identity and don't throw silly insults while I hade behind a cpu screen.
I also know your history and YEARS of dedication and hard work to get where you are in the sport of BB.
You are one of the few with real business sense and ability to promote a product.
I just think it far better to say something funny and move on. Talking about what you have $$ seems below a man of your status in BB is my point.
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Feel free..
Ok bob, on serious note what do advise for a masters guy like me to use when it comes to BSN products to help get leaner and harder for the summer ( along with cardio and diet )
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Ok bob, on serious note what do advise for a masters guy like me to use when it comes to BSN products to help get leaner and harder for the summer ( along with cardio and diet )
Syntha-6
N.O. Explode
And try the new one (EPOZINE 0-2) Been using it myself the last 2 weeks....great pre workout supp for maximum pump
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Syntha-6
N.O. Explode
And try the new one (EPOZINE 0-2) Been using it myself the last 2 weeks....great pre workout supp for maximum pump
hi bob-hope all is well w you
i remember hearing trey brewer talk about the epozine o2...and the new formula of n o explode...how does the epo compare to the energy u get from the endo? im on a limited budget and i wonder if i should go out and buy the epo...i already have the endorush but havent tried it yet...thanks
also-which flavor of syntha do u like the most? how many shakes do u like to have?
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Syntha-6
N.O. Explode
And try the new one (EPOZINE 0-2) Been using it myself the last 2 weeks....great pre workout supp for maximum pump
Can you send me some free samples?
And please shove some of your soiled undies into the protien powder for me big fella ;)
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I can bet you anything that every person who is ragging on Chic has never had a sponsor. Sponsors make your whole life easier and better. When you know you have that check coming in and you know you will be traveling (for free) and getting everything paid for during the trip it makes life a whole lot better. It's nice to get things free and get paid for something you like to do.
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Bob, I don't think it wise for a public eye spokesman like you should "rub it in" when it comes to your lifestyle and success compred to many of us 9-5 working slobs. I understand your frustration when dealing with some forum morons.
I don't punch a clock and have a career as an educator which is hardly glamorous.
Like many fans , I admire your success, but don't like it thrown in our faces.
No
Bob Chicherillo is hardly the pinacle of success. Sure he has a supplement contract and thats great, but I doubt he makes more than 100k a year and there are plenty of 9-5ers out there that make more money than Bob does.
This is not meant to flame you in the least Bob, thats great you signed with BSN and are living comfortably but Howard seems to think you just signed a multimillion dollar contract. Bodybuilders are not recognized by the general public like athletes who play sports are. GSP signed with Gatorade and is probably getting paid millions. Most bodybuilders make less than 100k a year including endorsments.
Do you really think athletes and people who work out will be like " Hey man, Bob Chicherillo signed with BSN and uses their products. They must be a great compnay to sign guys the caliber of Chicherillo, I'm going to by some of their supplements for sure".
In reality 99 people out of 100 don't know who the hell he is and his name alone will not increase their sales.
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Bob Chickerillo is hardly the pinacle of success. Sure he has a supplement contract and thats great, but I doubt he makes more than 100k a year and there are plenty of 9-5ers out there that make more money than Bob does.
This is not meant to flame you in the least Bob, thats great you signed with BSN and are living comfortably but Howard seems to think you just signed a multimillion dollar contract. Bodybuilders are not recognized by the general public like athletes who play sports are. GSP signed with Gatorade and is probably getting paid millions. Most bodybuilders make less than 100k a year including endorsments.
Good to see you back at Getbig bro! How is your new book doing? I want to buy a copy!
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Bob Chicherillo is hardly the pinacle of success. Sure he has a supplement contract and thats great, but I doubt he makes more than 100k a year and there are plenty of 9-5ers out there that make more money than Bob does.
This is not meant to flame you in the least Bob, thats great you signed with BSN and are living comfortably but Howard seems to think you just signed a multimillion dollar contract. Bodybuilders are not recognized by the general public like athletes who play sports are. GSP signed with Gatorade and is probably getting paid millions. Most bodybuilders make less than 100k a year including endorsments.
Do you really think athletes and people who work out will be like " Hey man, Bob Chicherillo signed with BSN and uses their products. They must be a great compnay to sign guys the caliber of Chicherillo, I'm going to by some of their supplements for sure".
In reality 99 people out of 100 don't know who the hell he is and his name alone will not increase their sales.
I know BSN signs an array of athletes in different sports. I am pretty sure or at least a little that BSN brought Bob onboard to help run the BB side aloing with helping the bodybuilders who they sponsor.
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I know BSN signs an array of athletes in different sports. I am pretty sure or at least a little that BSN brought Bob onboard to help run the BB side aloing with helping the bodybuilders who they sponsor.
I'm sure they signed Bob more so because he in good shape and has a large vocabulary and a high level of diction, than because of the star power his name has.
Grant, things are going well. When the book is done I will give you a copy for free bro. Had a car accident and suffered from post concussion syndrom so I couldnt train for a few months. Been training for two weeks now though and its going well.
How have you been my friend? Whats new? Hope all is well.
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Bob Chicherillo is hardly the pinacle of success. Sure he has a supplement contract and thats great, but I doubt he makes more than 100k a year and there are plenty of 9-5ers out there that make more money than Bob does.
This is not meant to flame you in the least Bob, thats great you signed with BSN and are living comfortably but Howard seems to think you just signed a multimillion dollar contract. Bodybuilders are not recognized by the general public like athletes who play sports are. GSP signed with Gatorade and is probably getting paid millions. Most bodybuilders make less than 100k a year including endorsments.
Do you really think athletes and people who work out will be like " Hey man, Bob Chicherillo signed with BSN and uses their products. They must be a great compnay to sign guys the caliber of Chicherillo, I'm going to by some of their supplements for sure".
In reality 99 people out of 100 don't know who the hell he is and his name alone will not increase their sales.
I'm not interested in 99/100 people NOT in our industry, knowing me or not...I'm fairly sure that number is much greator IN our industry, which is where it counts.
I love how you "arent trying to flame me"...yet, take a completely uneducated guess as to what my contract(s) are worth...
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Grant, things are going well. When the book is done I will give you a copy for free bro. Had a car accident and suffered from post concussion syndrom so I couldnt train for a few months. Been training for two weeks now though and its going well.
Oh Shiat! Concussion is a serious thing bro. Make sure you take care of that! Hey, not to hijack this thread but..... let us know the details of your book so we can get some buyers here? The title, amazon link, etc?
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hi bob-hope all is well w you
i remember hearing trey brewer talk about the epozine o2...and the new formula of n o explode...how does the epo compare to the energy u get from the endo? im on a limited budget and i wonder if i should go out and buy the epo...i already have the endorush but havent tried it yet...thanks
also-which flavor of syntha do u like the most? how many shakes do u like to have?
x2 good questions!
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I'm not interested in 99/100 people NOT in our industry, knowing me or not...I'm fairly sure that number is much greator IN our industry, which is where it counts.
I love how you "arent trying to flame me"...yet, take a completely uneducated guess as to what my contract(s) are worth...
You love it eh chick? Why so sensative? You find it offensive that I guessed what your contract was? Geez must be that time of the month again.
And 99/100 people who buy supplements ( you know the people BSN is certainly interested in) do not know who the hell you are. I'm sorry bobby but thats a fact. You are an average nobody. Your industry, accounts for almost nil of the supplement market. 99.9 % of people who buy supplements don't give a shit about bodybuilding or you. And you don't need an educated guess to know which way the wind blows. Its common knowledge that their is no money in bodybuilding, and you are trying to dispute this lol? Who are you trying to kid Bob? Are you saying BSN would pay you any more than 30k for two years to endorse their product? MMA fighter David the crow Loiseau is a close friend of mine and also has a BNS contract. And guess what moron? He is about 10000x more well know than you so I guess my "guess" isn't as uneducated as you thought. I know what he makes and its sure as hell alot more than they would pay a jobber like you. I'm going to ask him to make an "educated guess" as to what you make and tell him about how you called me out when I said you make less than 100k. Should be good for a laugh. Or will David not be educated enough to answer accuratley?
My guess is he doesnt know who the hell you are and that you make 30k over two years or less. I will post for everyone here what The crow "guess'" Bob makes. Arguing with you is like taking candy from a baby bob. LOl like you make anything near what the crow makes, lol I can't believe how delusional you are.
For anyone interested David was supposed to be fighting at ufc 113 but the Quebec athletic commision won't grant him a fight license for whatever reason, but he is still training hard as ever and will be in action soon for the UFC or another promotion.
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Syntha-6
N.O. Explode
And try the new one (EPOZINE 0-2) Been using it myself the last 2 weeks....great pre workout supp for maximum pump
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Just saw your youtube clip where you claim to be "the icon of sport" lmao. Like Bodybuilding is a sport, and like you would be the icon if it were. Your ego is huge Bob, wow. I wonder what the real athletes under BSN contracts will think of you. Doubt they even know who you are. " who is that mongloid looking fellow with an invisible watermelon under each arm and what is he doing here"?? Why thats bob chickerillo, the icon of the sport of bodybuilding, just signed to a 30k 2 year contract!! Congrats bob.
Stay tuned getbig for a report on what the real athletes of BSN think of Bob and his claims that he is getting paid over 100k a year from BSN.
Unfortunatly for bob, he is not the only one on the boards who knows people in the industry, and he will have to be accountable to his peers over the BS he spews from time to time. You still stand by your statement bob that I dont know WTF I'm talking about when I say you make less than 100k a year? I promise there will be real athletes who are under BSN contract who see this thread in the next few days. We will see who's guess they feel is more accurate. Mine, in saying that Bob chick makes no more than 30k for two years, or bob C, who claims BSN pays him more than they pay the Crow and more than 100k a year.
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MMA fighter David the crow Loiseau is a close friend of mine and also has a BNS contract.
He doesn't appear on the roster of BSN athletes http://www.bsnonline.net/teambsn/
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Just saw your youtube clip where you claim to be "the icon of sport" lmao. Like Bodybuilding is a sport, and like you would be the icon if it were. Your ego is huge Bob, wow. I wonder what the real athletes under BSN contracts will think of you. Doubt they even know who you are. " who is that mongloid looking fellow with an invisible watermelon under each arm and what is he doing here"?? Why thats bob chickerillo, the icon of the sport of bodybuilding, just signed to a 30k 2 year contract!! Congrats bob.
Stay tuned getbig for a report on what the real athletes of BSN think of Bob and his claims that he is getting paid over 100k a year from BSN.
Unfortunatly for bob, he is not the only one on the boards who knows people in the industry, and he will have to be accountable to his peers over the BS he spews from time to time. You still stand by your statement bob that I dont know WTF I'm talking about when I say you make less than 100k a year? I promise there will be real athletes who are under BSN contract who see this thread in the next few days. We will see who's guess they feel is more accurate. Mine, in saying that Bob chick makes no more than 30k for two years, or bob C, who claims BSN pays him more than they pay the Crow and more than 100k a year.
x2 great post man...finally a little reality
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You love it eh chick? Why so sensative? You find it offensive that I guessed what your contract was? Geez must be that time of the month again.
Amusing, is what I find you...you couldnt guess shit loser.
And 99/100 people who buy supplements ( you know the people BSN is certainly interested in) do not know who the hell you are. I'm sorry bobby but thats a fact. You are an average nobody. Your industry, accounts for almost nil of the supplement market. 99.9 % of people who buy supplements don't give a shit about bodybuilding or you. And you don't need an educated guess to know which way the wind blows. Its common knowledge that their is no money in bodybuilding, and you are trying to dispute this lol? Who are you trying to kid Bob?
Another pearl of wisdom..."my"industry is a multi billion dollar industry. Guess I've been paying the mortgage with nothing all these years since there is no money in it...I know promoters, gym owners, supp companies, competitors, etc that all make a great living from bodybuilding...dont hate cause you dont.
Are you saying BSN would pay you any more than 30k for two years to endorse their product? MMA fighter David the crow Loiseau is a close friend of mine and also has a BNS contract. And guess what moron? He is about 10000x more well know than you so I guess my "guess" isn't as uneducated as you thought. I know what he makes and its sure as hell alot more than they would pay a jobber like you. I'm going to ask him to make an "educated guess" as to what you make and tell him about how you called me out when I said you make less than 100k. Should be good for a laugh. Or will David not be educated enough to answer accuratley?
What are you 14 years old? LOL....does your "close friend" i.e.- (man crush) even know your name? I see the problem...I'm under contract with BSN....not sure what company BNS is your "close friend" has a contract with...maybe thats why he's not listed.
My guess is he doesnt know who the hell you are and that you make 30k over two years or less. I will post for everyone here what The crow "guess'" Bob makes. Arguing with you is like taking candy from a baby bob. LOl like you make anything near what the crow makes, lol I can't believe how delusional you are.
Well...who could possibly make what "the Crow" makes? How could I be so stupid as to think I'm worth what "the Crow" is?? BTW...I've never ehard of "the Crow"...other than Brandon Lee, who he stole the name from... Do you have pictures hanging on your wall of "The Crow"??
you're right about one thing...I probably DONT make anywhere near what "The Crow" does (thank God)
For anyone interested David was supposed to be fighting at ufc 113 but the Quebec athletic commision won't grant him a fight license for whatever reason, but he is still training hard as ever and will be in action soon for the UFC or another promotion.
LOL...thanks for the update of what "The Crow" is doing...surprised you thought everyone wouldnt know what his every move is.
Thanks for the laughs Crow-boy!
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Having to ressort to pointing to a typo is usually the sign of a strong argument from somone with a high IQ. ::)
Yah, your a much bigger name than Former UFC title Contendor David the Crow Loiseau. Keep talking Chick. The crow is On National TV every other week, but your right, you are probably way more popular than him ::)
Now your claiming the bodybuilding industry is a multibillion dollar industry lol? The supplement industry is a multibillion dollar industry but people who actually follow bodybuilding make up less than 1% of that.
LOL still can't get over Bob thinking he makes more $ than Loiseau and has more name power. Geez steroids really do make some people stupid.
I'm sure Loiseau will appreciate you making fun of him too chick.
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Having to ressort to pointing to a typo is usually the sign of a strong argument from somone with a high IQ. ::)
Yah, your a much bigger name than Former UFC title Contendor David the Crow Loiseau. Keep talking Chick. The crow is On National TV every other week, but your right, you are probably way more popular than him ::)
Now your claiming the bodybuilding industry is a multibillion dollar industry lol? The supplement industry is a multibillion dollar industry but people who actually follow bodybuilding make up less than 1% of that.
LOL still can't get over Bob thinking he makes more $ than Loiseau and has more name power. Geez steroids really do make some people stupid.
I'm sure Loiseau will appreciate you making fun of him too chick.
The Crow is not an A-rated fighter in UFC anymore. He is just another opponent. Face it, you just got big time owned by Bob Chick! Now...go polish Bob's shoes!
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Just saw your youtube clip where you claim to be "the icon of sport" lmao. Like Bodybuilding is a sport, and like you would be the icon if it were. Your ego is huge Bob, wow. I wonder what the real athletes under BSN contracts will think of you. Doubt they even know who you are. " who is that mongloid looking fellow with an invisible watermelon under each arm and what is he doing here"?? Why thats bob chickerillo, the icon of the sport of bodybuilding, just signed to a 30k 2 year contract!! Congrats bob.
Stay tuned getbig for a report on what the real athletes of BSN think of Bob and his claims that he is getting paid over 100k a year from BSN.
Unfortunatly for bob, he is not the only one on the boards who knows people in the industry, and he will have to be accountable to his peers over the BS he spews from time to time. You still stand by your statement bob that I dont know WTF I'm talking about when I say you make less than 100k a year? I promise there will be real athletes who are under BSN contract who see this thread in the next few days. We will see who's guess they feel is more accurate. Mine, in saying that Bob chick makes no more than 30k for two years, or bob C, who claims BSN pays him more than they pay the Crow and more than 100k a year.
Post the video where I make any claim to being an "icon", retard...
I've made NO claims to how much I make....but feel free to ask around. Ron knows what my contract is...ask him for verification if it's so important to you.
Make sure to get "the Crow's" permission, fanboy
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Post the video where I make any claim to being an "icon", retard...
I've made NO claims to how much I make....but feel free to ask around. Ron knows what my contract is...ask him for verification if it's so important to you.
Make sure to get "the Crow's" permission, fanboy
You are in the ownership mode today, Sir!
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Having to ressort to pointing to a typo is usually the sign of a strong argument from somone with a high IQ. ::)
Yah, your a much bigger name than Former UFC title Contendor David the Crow Loiseau. Keep talking Chick. The crow is On National TV every other week, but your right, you are probably way more popular than him ::)
Now your claiming the bodybuilding industry is a multibillion dollar industry lol? The supplement industry is a multibillion dollar industry but people who actually follow bodybuilding make up less than 1% of that.
LOL still can't get over Bob thinking he makes more $ than Loiseau and has more name power. Geez steroids really do make some people stupid.
I'm sure Loiseau will appreciate you making fun of him too chick.
BTW...we have CURRENT UFC fighters on the BSN team...check out the athletes page on the site www.bsnonline.com
Let me know when your boy is scheduled to make his way onto the endorsed athletes page...seems to be MIA...like your intelligence
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The Crow is not an A-rated fighter in UFC anymore. He is just another opponent. Face it, you just got big time owned by Bob Chick! Now...go polish Bob's shoes!
Right, I'm the one that got owned ::)It appears the majority see it otherwise. Chick is arguing over the internet about his contract and claiming he makes more than 100k with some random guy and I being owned ::) Yah ok. Bob is just mad because he enjoyed the fantasy of having people believe he was a Millonair.
And The Crow may not be a main eventer but are you disputing he is more famous than Bob Chick? I mean are you actually saying more people would recognize Bob Chick than David Loiseau? You must have a lower IQ than chick. I never knew until you posted that bodybuilders had groupies.
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"For anyone interested David was supposed to be fighting at ufc 113 but the Quebec athletic commision won't grant him a fight license for whatever reason, but he is still training hard as ever and will be in action soon for the UFC or another promotion."
He got his licence back too late
http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/sports/breakingnews/david-the-crow-loiseau-fumes-as-licence-delay-costs-chance-to-fight-at-ufc-113-92355709.html
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Syntha-6
N.O. Explode
And try the new one (EPOZINE 0-2) Been using it myself the last 2 weeks....great pre workout supp for maximum pump
I already use the syntha 6 as it is one of the few pro powders I can digest without feeling "bloated".
I am going to try the new epozine product and see how it helps.
Bob, where can we learn your schedule for apperances with BSN at expos.
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Right, I'm the one that got owned ::)It appears the majority see it otherwise. Chick is arguing over the internet about his contract and claiming he makes more than 100k with some random guy and I being owned ::) Yah ok. Bob is just mad because he enjoyed the fantasy of having people believe he was a Millonair.
And The Crow may not be a main eventer but are you disputing he is more famous than Bob Chick? I mean are you actually saying more people would recognize Bob Chick than David Loiseau? You must have a lower IQ than chick. I never knew until you posted that bodybuilders had groupies.
LOL @ you! Why are you obsessed with Bob Chick and his income? Are you disappointed that he does not sell himself for petty cash to gays and schmoes? ::)
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BTW...we have CURRENT UFC fighters on the BSN team...check out the athletes page on the site www.bsnonline.com
Let me know when your boy is scheduled to make his way onto the endorsed athletes page...seems to be MIA...like your intelligence
THIS is the way you crack on a flamin' forum troll ;)
When you get down in the pissin contest of who makes what, you open up a retard can of worms Bob.
Stick with the one line zingers like this Bob.
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Right, I'm the one that got owned ::)It appears the majority see it otherwise. Chick is arguing over the internet about his contract and claiming he makes more than 100k with some random guy and I being owned ::) Yah ok. Bob is just mad because he enjoyed the fantasy of having people believe he was a Millonair.
And The Crow may not be a main eventer but are you disputing he is more famous than Bob Chick? I mean are you actually saying more people would recognize Bob Chick than David Loiseau? You must have a lower IQ than chick. I never knew until you posted that bodybuilders had groupies.
Bob never claimed he was some icon like Arnold. While BB may not be a huge market sport, Bob has carved out a niche for himself in the sport of BB. Bob made the mistake of opeining up this can of worms and entertaining those who brought it up.
Far better for Bob to make a funny 1 liner and move on.
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Bob...will Maleah Jo be one of the BSN booth girls?
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ROLF at this thread!
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"For anyone interested David was supposed to be fighting at ufc 113 but the Quebec athletic commision won't grant him a fight license for whatever reason, but he is still training hard as ever and will be in action soon for the UFC or another promotion."
He got his licence back too late
http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/sports/breakingnews/david-the-crow-loiseau-fumes-as-licence-delay-costs-chance-to-fight-at-ufc-113-92355709.html
Jason "the athlete" Mcdonald is taking his place. Glad he is back in the UFC too but I really hope the Crow get another chance.
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Bob never claimed he was some icon like Arnold. While BB may not be a huge market sport, Bob has carved out a niche for himself in the sport of BB. Bob made the mistake of opeining up this can of worms and entertaining those who brought it up.
Far better for Bob to make a funny 1 liner and move on.
Yes he has, and I praised him for that. What is odd though is that he took offence because I said something to the effect that "Its not like Bob signed a multimillion dollar contract". I don't know why that would offend someone unless they had a ton of insecurity issues and physcological problems. I'm not saying Bob does, but why would an adult "professional" take offence to my comments? I also said some people who work 9-5 probably make more money than Bob does and he took offence to that. I don't know if it is jelously or what but he seemed to also take offence to the fact that a former UFC title contendor who is still on national TV every second week has more name recognition than him and then made a joke about how much The Crow makes and that he is happy he doesn't make as much as David, with the insinuation that David Louiseau makes far less than him. All in all it sounds like he is very insecure, what other conclusion could somone possibly draw from Bobs comments? Bob is obviously a very fragile and sensative individual and is angry because I'm sure he enjoyed people believing he had signed a huge contract and tried to flame me because I gave people a dose of reality. If I would have known it would hurt you and you would take such offence I would have kept the sherade going Bob.
Truth is I was always fond of Bob and gave him the benefit of the doubt because he is Italian. I guess I still will back Bob in most things but I certainly don't believe BSn signed him to a 100k/year contract. Bob you shouldn't really care what I, or anyone think anyways.
BTW I stand corrected, The Crow is no longer with BSN but with XYIENCE. Him and GSP both did work for BSN and he was quite honest about what they paid him and gave me a good idea of what someone like Chick would get paid by them.
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Yes he has, and I praised him for that. What is odd though is that he took offence because I said something to the effect that "Its not like Bob signed a multimillion dollar contract". I don't know why that would offend someone unless they had a ton of insecurity issues and physcological problems. I'm not saying Bob does, but why would an adult "professional" take offence to my comments? I also said some people who work 9-5 probably make more money than Bob does and he took offence to that. I don't know if it is jelously or what but he seemed to also take offence to the fact that a former UFC title contendor who is still on national TV every second week has more name recognition than him and then made a joke about how much The Crow makes and that he is happy he doesn't make as much as David, with the insinuation that David Louiseau makes far less than him. All in all it sounds like he is very insecure, what other conclusion could somone possibly draw from Bobs comments? Bob is obviously a very fragile and sensative individual and is angry because I'm sure he enjoyed people believing he had signed a huge contract and tried to flame me because I gave people a dose of reality. If I would have known it would hurt you and you would take such offence I would have kept the sherade going Bob.
Truth is I was always fond of Bob and gave him the benefit of the doubt because he is Italian. I guess I still will back Bob in most things but I certainly don't believe BSn signed him to a 100k/year contract. Bob you shouldn't really care what I, or anyone think anyways.
BTW I stand corrected, The Crow is no longer with BSN but with XYIENCE. Him and GSP both did work for BSN and he was quite honest about what they paid him and gave me a good idea of what someone like Chick would get paid by them.
The only dose o reality, is that you don't have a clue as to what you're talking about...you're making a colossal ass of yourself with every post. Here is a clue for you....it's the UFC guys and other athletes that are the "fringe" sports when it comes to BODYBUILDING supplements...not the bodybuilder. Using whatever knowledge you believe you have to try and guess what I signed for, is laughable...
I take no offense to what you say, as you're an anonymous fool on the internet...you're credibility is zero.
You can" stand corrected "on pretty much everything you said....
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The only dose o reality, is that you don't have a clue as to what you're talking about...you're making a colossal ass of yourself with every post. Here is a clue for you....it's the UFC guys and other athletes that are the "fringe" sports when it comes to BODYBUILDING supplements...not the bodybuilder. Using whatever knowledge you believe you have to try and guess what I signed for, is laughable...I take no offense to what you say, as you're an anonymous fool on the internet...you're credibility is zero.
You can" stand corrected "on pretty much everything you said....
LMAO, Bob your too funny. Let me get this straight. You honestly believe that the majority of people of people who buy supplements like whey protien, creatine and fat burners follow bodybuilding or could name even five bodybuilders? Whey, Creatine and fat burners are not bodybuilding supplements, they are used by all different kinds of athletes, the minority of which are competitive bodybuilders.
I could be wrong so we should take a survery with people who own or work at supplement stores. Lets ask them if the majority of their clients are bodybuilders or involved in other kinds of sports. Popeyes nutrition spnosors many athletes at my gym and their clientel consists of far more people who train in MMA and Muay Thai than those who bodybuild. Perhaps it is different at the supplement stores you shop at. Lets let some people who currently work at supplement stores chime in and hear what they have to say.
LMAO and you believe I'm brainless and have no credibility? Do you realize how brainless your post was? Probably not so I will break it down for you. Bob, you insist MMA, the fastest growing sport in the world, which is on cable and network
televison everyday, is a fringe sport, not bodybuilding a hobby in which the pinnicle event Isnt even televised.
Every MMArtis uses supplements, the same kind bodybuilders use, Whey protien, creatine, fat burners, NO explode ect
but MMA is a fringe sport, and Bodybuilding is mainstream. Yes Bob, clearly I have no credibility.
Not only that, but when you consider amature football player, basketball players, wrestlers, and just about any other
sports athletes use supplement, it is obvious that bodybuilders account for an extremly small percent of the supplement
consumption. This is over Bobs head so I certainly do not expect him to understand. He will chime in about how I have no credibility and insist bodybuilders are the reason the supplment industry makes money and how brainless I am for thinking MMArtist and other athletes spend more money annually than bodybuilders.
Just out of curiousity Bob, since you are so credible and an expert, what percent of the entire supplement industries yearly revenue comes from bodybuilders?
I feel sorry for the mentally handicapped so I will help you with a rebuttal. You should bring up my spelling and grammer mistakes as you usually do when you have nothing intelligent to say ( there are probably several in this post), then you should say something about how UFC is a fringe sport and bodybuilding is way more popular, and perhaps say somthing about my credibility and intelligence because you can't stand the fact that I don't believe you make anywhere near 100k a year from BSN, and that even though I am personal friends with people who have supplement contracts and know what they make (far more than they would pay a washed up has been that no one knows or ever knew), I couldnt even guess how much you or little you make.
Sounds about right for a Bob Chich response.
What is pathetic is that Chick knows everything I say is true and I am getting under his skin so bad that my posts were the last thing on his mind when he went to bed and the first thing on his mind when he woke up. He loved people believing he was rich and when I said he probably makes 30k over two years it made his blood boil because he knows I'm right.
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Bob,
Correct me if im wrong, but wasnt posting on getbig part of your bodybuiding.com contract??
And since you are no long contracted with bodybuilding.com, why do u still post on getbig and put up with all this nonsense from people who dont watch bodybuilding, dont train, dont buy bsn supplements or are just bitter towards the world in general??
Do u like to defend yourself endlessly from people you will never see or will never know irl? To me it just makes no sense and is a waste of time.
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Bob,
Correct me if im wrong, but wasnt posting on getbig part of your bodybuiding.com contract??
And since you are no long contracted with bodybuilding.com, why do u still post on getbig and put up with all this nonsense from people who dont watch bodybuilding, dont train, dont buy bsn supplements or are just bitter towards the world in general??
Do u like to defend yourself endlessly from people you will never see or will never know irl? To me it just makes no sense and is a waste of time.
he's keeping in touch with his legions of fans
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I'm hearing BSN will announce this weekend in Orlando their latest IFBB Pro signing. Any guesses who it might be?
another sign of the apolalypse.
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The only dose o reality, is that you don't have a clue as to what you're talking about...you're making a colossal ass of yourself with every post. Here is a clue for you....it's the UFC guys and other athletes that are the "fringe" sports when it comes to BODYBUILDING supplements...not the bodybuilder. Using whatever knowledge you believe you have to try and guess what I signed for, is laughable...
I take no offense to whbat you say,et
You can" stand corrected "on pretty much everything you said....
Bob...you can just settle this inane discussion, by posting what your contract is worth. You don't even have to post an exact amount, just a ball park figure.
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Bob,
Correct me if im wrong, but wasnt posting on getbig part of your bodybuiding.com contract??
And since you are no long contracted with bodybuilding.com, why do u still post on getbig and put up with all this nonsense from people who dont watch bodybuilding, dont train, dont buy bsn supplements or are just bitter towards the world in general??
Do u like to defend yourself endlessly from people you will never see or will never know irl? To me it just makes no sense and is a waste of time.
I will answer this for Bob since we are not quite the same age but come from the same era. I too defend myself to everyone who attacks me even though I will never ever see them. i do this because when and where I grew up if you insulted someone you had to do it to their face and pay the consequences. you had to have at least some balls and be somewhat of a man to insult someone. Nowadays you have punks who in most cases are just kids who love to get a "rise" out of people who in real life would beat the sht out of them if the verbally said what they typed. So when someone comes on here and says shit about you, you hae to defend yourself the best way possible. The only real problem is these kids are very good at what they do and it is frustrating because the only retort is to have a verbal war against them through a computer screen. Very aggravating when you are used to handling things in person.
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LMAO, Bob your too funny. Let me get this straight. You honestly believe that the majority of people of people who buy supplements like whey protien, creatine and fat burners follow bodybuilding or could name even five bodybuilders? Whey, Creatine and fat burners are not bodybuilding supplements, they are used by all different kinds of athletes, the minority of which are competitive bodybuilders.
You named 3 of the most recognized supps on the market..I could equally name 3+ that main stream people probably DONT use...
I could be wrong so we should take a survery with people who own or work at supplement stores. Lets ask them if the majority of their clients are bodybuilders or involved in other kinds of sports. Popeyes nutrition spnosors many athletes at my gym and their clientel consists of far more people who train in MMA and Muay Thai than those who bodybuild. Perhaps it is different at the supplement stores you shop at. Lets let some people who currently work at supplement stores chime in and hear what they have to say.
LMAO and you believe I'm brainless and have no credibility?
Based on the fact that you've been 100% wrong on everything you've posted, and are anonymous...yes, both would apply
Do you realize how brainless your post was? Probably not so I will break it down for you. Bob, you insist MMA, the fastest growing sport in the world, which is on cable and network
televison everyday, is a fringe sport, not bodybuilding a hobby in which the pinnicle event Isnt even televised.
Thats not what I said at all...go back and actually try and comprehend what I said before making a bigger fool of yourself....
Every MMArtis uses supplements, the same kind bodybuilders use, Whey protien, creatine, fat burners, NO explode ect
but MMA is a fringe sport, and Bodybuilding is mainstream. Yes Bob, clearly I have no credibility.
See above
Not only that, but when you consider amature football player, basketball players, wrestlers, and just about any other
sports athletes use supplement, it is obvious that bodybuilders account for an extremly small percent of the supplement
consumption. This is over Bobs head so I certainly do not expect him to understand. He will chime in about how I have no credibility and insist bodybuilders are the reason the supplment industry makes money and how brainless I am for thinking MMArtist and other athletes spend more money annually than bodybuilders.
Just out of curiousity Bob, since you are so credible and an expert, what percent of the entire supplement industries yearly revenue comes from bodybuilders?
Dont know...whats the difference? I never said only BBers use supplements. Now you're trying to change the argument after making a fool of yourself...
I feel sorry for the mentally handicapped so I will help you with a rebuttal. You should bring up my spelling and grammer mistakes as you usually do when you have nothing intelligent to say ( there are probably several in this post), then you should say something about how UFC is a fringe sport and bodybuilding is way more popular, and perhaps say somthing about my credibility and intelligence because you can't stand the fact that I don't believe you make anywhere near 100k a year from BSN, and that even though I am personal friends with people who have supplement contracts and know what they make (far more than they would pay a washed up has been that no one knows or ever knew), I couldnt even guess how much you or little you make.
Sounds about right for a Bob Chich response.
What is pathetic is that Chick knows everything I say is true and I am getting under his skin so bad that my posts were the last thing on his mind when he went to bed and the first thing on his mind when he woke up. He loved people believing he was rich and when I said he probably makes 30k over two years it made his blood boil because he knows I'm right.
No one ever said I was rich, least of all me. But to insist that you know how much I make based on what your man crush MMA boy made with some other company, is ludicrious and only reinforces the obvious...you're a moron.
Feel free to ask Ron if you're even close to accurate
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I will answer this for Bob since we are not quite the same age but come from the same era. I too defend myself to everyone who attacks me even though I will never ever see them. i do this because when and where I grew up if you insulted someone you had to do it to their face and pay the consequences. you had to have at least some balls and be somewhat of a man to insult someone. Nowadays you have punks who in most cases are just kids who love to get a "rise" out of people who in real life would beat the sht out of them if the verbally said what they typed. So when someone comes on here and says shit about you, you hae to defend yourself the best way possible. The only real problem is these kids are very good at what they do and it is frustrating because the only retort is to have a verbal war against them through a computer screen. Very aggravating when you are used to handling things in person.
Well said, Keith...
It makes me laugh when these tools question your/ my travels and accomplishments...LOL... if they only knew...
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I will answer this for Bob since we are not quite the same age but come from the same era. I too defend myself to everyone who attacks me even though I will never ever see them. i do this because when and where I grew up if you insulted someone you had to do it to their face and pay the consequences. you had to have at least some balls and be somewhat of a man to insult someone. Nowadays you have punks who in most cases are just kids who love to get a "rise" out of people who in real life would beat the sht out of them if the verbally said what they typed. So when someone comes on here and says shit about you, you hae to defend yourself the best way possible. The only real problem is these kids are very good at what they do and it is frustrating because the only retort is to have a verbal war against them through a computer screen. Very aggravating when you are used to handling things in person.
Keith, this is actually a great post from you. But as your friend and as a friend to Mussolini (Eddie) I have to say that this post does not apply to Eddie. Eddie has posted his name here and several pictures. He is also a legit MMA fighter. That means he is not one of the faceless teenage punks that come on this site to insult the likes of you, me or Bob Chick.
Eddie disputes the earnings of Bob Chick (also a friend of mine through the industry) and I think its totally okay to debate with Bob on this issue and challenge Bob on what seguements of the industry make up the buying market on supplements? This is what a forum is for....to debate issues. That's my 2 cents....
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BTW I stand corrected, The Crow is no longer with BSN but with XYIENCE. Him and GSP both did work for BSN and he was quite honest about what they paid him and gave me a good idea of what someone like Chick would get paid by them.
With respect to your friend The Crow unless he was very close with the senior management at BSN he would have no idea what Bob would be paid.
I've worked for BSN on various projects over several years and I don't know what anyone earns and I don't care. What's the point in getting worked up over someone's pay check?
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Keith, this is actually a great post from you. But as your friend and as a friend to Mussolini (Eddie) I have to say that this post does not apply to Eddie. Eddie has posted his name here and several pictures. He is also a legit MMA fighter. That means he is not one of the faceless teenage punks that come on this site to insult the likes of you, me or Bob Chick.
Eddie disputes the earnings of Bob Chick (also a friend of mine through the industry) and I think its totally okay to debate with Bob on this issue and challenge Bob on what seguements of the industry make up the buying market on supplements? This is what a forum is for....to debate issues. That's my 2 cents....
I know Grant. I know who he (Mussoulni) is and I respect him because he does have accomplishments and can walk the walk.. I was referring to the many others who attack Bob about certain things and me. In all honesty I am pretty sure Bob is smart enough and has at least enough wit not to give any clue on how much he makes. In all honesty it is no ones business. he does well enough to do what he wants and travels and has fun. This is something these kids will never experience or know how it feels.
The thing I don't get about these guys is why shit has to get so negative when they are obviously jealous. I never in my life have maliciously attacked someone negatively because they are more successful than me or have done things I will never do. When I see someone successful or someone who gets to do something I will never be able to do I don't reach down and lower myself to find something (anything) negative about them to try and make them look bad and to make me look a little better. I just don't get that. I may wish I could do it or wish I had something they had but that is as far as it goes. I am confident enough (or at least was) to know if I wanted something and worked hard enough for it I will get it.
I have been watching this show and it gets me thinking. I know at times I sound like I am bragging about my past or I make it sound like I am some huge success. But after really thinking about it, I am not successful at all. Ihave had a pretty life compared to most. I have got to hob-knob with people most people don't get to. I have met and worked with many of my childhood heroes (including Ali my biggest), I got to travel for free and get paid to show up to some gathering or whatever and I have had alot of fun. But, ultimately I am far far far from being successful. Cause today at this exact time compared to what I once had I have nothing. i have spent and wasted all the money I ever had or made. I own no home, no stocks, no investments, no land no nothing but a bank account and pretty good income. When I watch this show and I see people my age and younger living in huge mansions and have millions in cars I am jealous as hell. And I get mad at myself because at one time (actually more) I have been in the position to have everything these people have. And I lost it everytime because of either trusting others to take care of business for me or because I was lazy and took everything I had for granted. I was stupid when I was younger. I was stupid because I didn't think about my future. All I thought about was that day or the next. I never ever thought about one year or more away. Because of that I am where I am today.
Well I still to this day do not try and belittle these successes. Instead it is really driving me to get into shape, kick ass again and get everything I want. There are two people on this board who know most about me. they know what I have going as a business. And if you ask them both I am pretty sure they will tell you that I am right around the corner from it taking off. Just to let you know it will be available on the shelves in about 30 to 60 days. And no I will not tell you what it is yet. But, 95% of you use it everyday and we have already been seen on numerous TV shows. And no it has nothing to do with the fitness industry. So I know I have something great happening. So i am sticking with it, making money and getting into shape because I want to lkive my last 20 or 30 years very comfortable and my kids and grandkids have nothing to worry about.
This took me along time to write cause I was interupted so much so it might not make sense. But no matter what Goodrum is a loser ;D
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That was pretty deep Keith. I know what you are talking about with your new business and I am sure it will be a big success. I have tried it and it was excellent. Keep in touch brother.
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I know Grant. I know who he (Mussoulni) is and I respect him because he does have accomplishments and can walk the walk.. I was referring to the many others who attack Bob about certain things and me. In all honesty I am pretty sure Bob is smart enough and has at least enough wit not to give any clue on how much he makes. In all honesty it is no ones business. he does well enough to do what he wants and travels and has fun. This is something these kids will never experience or know how it feels.
The thing I don't get about these guys is why shit has to get so negative when they are obviously jealous. I never in my life have maliciously attacked someone negatively because they are more successful than me or have done things I will never do. When I see someone successful or someone who gets to do something I will never be able to do I don't reach down and lower myself to find something (anything) negative about them to try and make them look bad and to make me look a little better. I just don't get that. I may wish I could do it or wish I had something they had but that is as far as it goes. I am confident enough (or at least was) to know if I wanted something and worked hard enough for it I will get it.
I have been watching this show and it gets me thinking. I know at times I sound like I am bragging about my past or I make it sound like I am some huge success. But after really thinking about it, I am not successful at all. Ihave had a pretty life compared to most. I have got to hob-knob with people most people don't get to. I have met and worked with many of my childhood heroes (including Ali my biggest), I got to travel for free and get paid to show up to some gathering or whatever and I have had alot of fun. But, ultimately I am far far far from being successful. Cause today at this exact time compared to what I once had I have nothing. i have spent and wasted all the money I ever had or made. I own no home, no stocks, no investments, no land no nothing but a bank account and pretty good income. When I watch this show and I see people my age and younger living in huge mansions and have millions in cars I am jealous as hell. And I get mad at myself because at one time (actually more) I have been in the position to have everything these people have. And I lost it everytime because of either trusting others to take care of business for me or because I was lazy and took everything I had for granted. I was stupid when I was younger. I was stupid because I didn't think about my future. All I thought about was that day or the next. I never ever thought about one year or more away. Because of that I am where I am today.
Well I still to this day do not try and belittle these successes. Instead it is really driving me to get into shape, kick ass again and get everything I want. There are two people on this board who know most about me. they know what I have going as a business. And if you ask them both I am pretty sure they will tell you that I am right around the corner from it taking off. Just to let you know it will be available on the shelves in about 30 to 60 days. And no I will not tell you what it is yet. But, 95% of you use it everyday and we have already been seen on numerous TV shows. And no it has nothing to do with the fitness industry. So I know I have something great happening. So i am sticking with it, making money and getting into shape because I want to lkive my last 20 or 30 years very comfortable and my kids and grandkids have nothing to worry about.
This took me along time to write cause I was interupted so much so it might not make sense. But no matter what Goodrum is a loser ;D
I thought this was a discussion forum not an essay publishing forum ??? :D
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btw Bob! arn't you just a little bit ashamed luring youngsters to waste their hard earned money on bullshit like this?
Do Nitric Oxide (No2) Supplements work?
The last 5 years there has been an absolute craze in the bodybuilding supplement industry over Nitric Oxide (NO2) supplements. Many bodybuilders have not looked at the research and just listened to what other bodybuilders or supplement companies have said. The supplement companies promise increased muscle growth, pumps, vascularity, and even sexual benefits. However, NO supplements may really be the biggest supplement scam to ever hit the bodybuilding industry.
What are NO (Nitric Oxide) supplements?
NO supplements contain some form of arginine, an amino acid. There are many different forms of arginine compounds in the NO supplements today, promising to be better than the other. The goal of NO supplements are to have the arginine break down into NO (Nitric Oxide) into the blood. Arginine can break down into the bloodstream by enzymatic action, into citruline and Nitric Oxide. NO is a vasodilator and is thought to play a role in muscle building. There is some research showing NO levels increase post workout, leading some bodybuilders to believe it is crucial to protein synthesis. Many have theorized that because NO supplements increase blood flow due to NO in the blood, that increased blood flow from NO leads to better muscle growth. NO in the blood is also the same mechanism by which viagra works too.
NO (Nitric Oxide) studies
There is not one single legitimate scientific study showing NO2 supplements taken orally directly increase NO levels in the blood by a significant level. Yes, that is right you have all have been duped by the supplement companies and bodybuilding “gurus” for years now!
Now I did mention earlier, arginine does convert to NO so, why doesn’t arginine supplements increase NO in the blood? Arginine indeed does increase NO levels in the blood, but only when taken intravaneously. Why? Because if you took the doses orally that required a big increase in NO, you would be a vomiting mess. Arginine causes extreme nausea at high doses, that is why all the studies at high doses were done intravaneously. Unfortunately, the upper limit for oral doses, doesn’t seem to increase NO levels much.
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Based on the fact that you've been 100% wrong on everything you've posted, and are anonymous...yes, both would apply
With all due respect Chick, Mussolini is not quite anonymous, he has posted pics of himself before (mma-fighting) and you can even look him up on Sherdogs stats.
EDIT: Lol, i see this has been covered already in earlier posts.
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I know Grant. I know who he (Mussoulni) is and I respect him because he does have accomplishments and can walk the walk.. I was referring to the many others who attack Bob about certain things and me. In all honesty I am pretty sure Bob is smart enough and has at least enough wit not to give any clue on how much he makes. In all honesty it is no ones business. he does well enough to do what he wants and travels and has fun. This is something these kids will never experience or know how it feels.
The thing I don't get about these guys is why shit has to get so negative when they are obviously jealous. I never in my life have maliciously attacked someone negatively because they are more successful than me or have done things I will never do. When I see someone successful or someone who gets to do something I will never be able to do I don't reach down and lower myself to find something (anything) negative about them to try and make them look bad and to make me look a little better. I just don't get that. I may wish I could do it or wish I had something they had but that is as far as it goes. I am confident enough (or at least was) to know if I wanted something and worked hard enough for it I will get it.
I have been watching this show and it gets me thinking. I know at times I sound like I am bragging about my past or I make it sound like I am some huge success. But after really thinking about it, I am not successful at all. Ihave had a pretty life compared to most. I have got to hob-knob with people most people don't get to. I have met and worked with many of my childhood heroes (including Ali my biggest), I got to travel for free and get paid to show up to some gathering or whatever and I have had alot of fun. But, ultimately I am far far far from being successful. Cause today at this exact time compared to what I once had I have nothing. i have spent and wasted all the money I ever had or made. I own no home, no stocks, no investments, no land no nothing but a bank account and pretty good income. When I watch this show and I see people my age and younger living in huge mansions and have millions in cars I am jealous as hell. And I get mad at myself because at one time (actually more) I have been in the position to have everything these people have. And I lost it everytime because of either trusting others to take care of business for me or because I was lazy and took everything I had for granted. I was stupid when I was younger. I was stupid because I didn't think about my future. All I thought about was that day or the next. I never ever thought about one year or more away. Because of that I am where I am today.
Well I still to this day do not try and belittle these successes. Instead it is really driving me to get into shape, kick ass again and get everything I want. There are two people on this board who know most about me. they know what I have going as a business. And if you ask them both I am pretty sure they will tell you that I am right around the corner from it taking off. Just to let you know it will be available on the shelves in about 30 to 60 days. And no I will not tell you what it is yet. But, 95% of you use it everyday and we have already been seen on numerous TV shows. And no it has nothing to do with the fitness industry. So I know I have something great happening. So i am sticking with it, making money and getting into shape because I want to lkive my last 20 or 30 years very comfortable and my kids and grandkids have nothing to worry about.
This took me along time to write cause I was interupted so much so it might not make sense. But no matter what Goodrum is a loser ;D
I agree with most of what you said Keith. The easiest thing to do is hate on someone else accomplishments. I try not to ever do that and when I slip I am man enough to apologize and admit I was wrong. I didnt start slinging the mud with Chick. He took deep offence for whatever reason to my comment that he didnt sign a multimillion dollar contract and that there are some people who work a 9-5 that make more money than he does. Then he went on a tangent and started insulting my intelligence and saying I have no crediblity. Honestly Keith, are these the actions of a secure individual? Someone who resorts to name calling and insults because someone says they are not a millionaire? Chick started with the insults not me. I have always respected you on these boards Keith and will continue to do so.
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I know Grant. I know who he (Mussoulni) is and I respect him because he does have accomplishments and can walk the walk.. I was referring to the many others who attack Bob about certain things and me. In all honesty I am pretty sure Bob is smart enough and has at least enough wit not to give any clue on how much he makes. In all honesty it is no ones business. he does well enough to do what he wants and travels and has fun. This is something these kids will never experience or know how it feels.
The thing I don't get about these guys is why shit has to get so negative when they are obviously jealous. I never in my life have maliciously attacked someone negatively because they are more successful than me or have done things I will never do. When I see someone successful or someone who gets to do something I will never be able to do I don't reach down and lower myself to find something (anything) negative about them to try and make them look bad and to make me look a little better. I just don't get that. I may wish I could do it or wish I had something they had but that is as far as it goes. I am confident enough (or at least was) to know if I wanted something and worked hard enough for it I will get it.
I have been watching this show and it gets me thinking. I know at times I sound like I am bragging about my past or I make it sound like I am some huge success. But after really thinking about it, I am not successful at all. Ihave had a pretty life compared to most. I have got to hob-knob with people most people don't get to. I have met and worked with many of my childhood heroes (including Ali my biggest), I got to travel for free and get paid to show up to some gathering or whatever and I have had alot of fun. But, ultimately I am far far far from being successful. Cause today at this exact time compared to what I once had I have nothing. i have spent and wasted all the money I ever had or made. I own no home, no stocks, no investments, no land no nothing but a bank account and pretty good income. When I watch this show and I see people my age and younger living in huge mansions and have millions in cars I am jealous as hell. And I get mad at myself because at one time (actually more) I have been in the position to have everything these people have. And I lost it everytime because of either trusting others to take care of business for me or because I was lazy and took everything I had for granted. I was stupid when I was younger. I was stupid because I didn't think about my future. All I thought about was that day or the next. I never ever thought about one year or more away. Because of that I am where I am today.
Well I still to this day do not try and belittle these successes. Instead it is really driving me to get into shape, kick ass again and get everything I want. There are two people on this board who know most about me. they know what I have going as a business. And if you ask them both I am pretty sure they will tell you that I am right around the corner from it taking off. Just to let you know it will be available on the shelves in about 30 to 60 days. And no I will not tell you what it is yet. But, 95% of you use it everyday and we have already been seen on numerous TV shows. And no it has nothing to do with the fitness industry. So I know I have something great happening. So i am sticking with it, making money and getting into shape because I want to lkive my last 20 or 30 years very comfortable and my kids and grandkids have nothing to worry about.
This took me along time to write cause I was interupted so much so it might not make sense. But no matter what Goodrum is a loser ;D
wel keith,
if you weren't glued to getbig all day and night maybe it wouldn't hurt so much when someone used words to hurt you. after all the best way to defend yourself when using words is by not using any of your own.
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Bob Chicherillo is hardly the pinacle of success. Sure he has a supplement contract and thats great, but I doubt he makes more than 100k a year and there are plenty of 9-5ers out there that make more money than Bob does.
This is not meant to flame you in the least Bob, thats great you signed with BSN and are living comfortably but Howard seems to think you just signed a multimillion dollar contract. Bodybuilders are not recognized by the general public like athletes who play sports are. GSP signed with Gatorade and is probably getting paid millions. Most bodybuilders make less than 100k a year including endorsments.
Do you really think athletes and people who work out will be like " Hey man, Bob Chicherillo signed with BSN and uses their products. They must be a great compnay to sign guys the caliber of Chicherillo, I'm going to by some of their supplements for sure".
In reality 99 people out of 100 don't know who the hell he is and his name alone will not increase their sales.
This was your first post, unprovoked.... you put out false info, attempt to put me down, and then wonder why I take offense??
In your own words, you say HOWARD thinks I signed a multi-million dollar deal....I never said such a thing.
Cant even get your own story straight...
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Bob you still don't understand, and its painfully obvious your education ended after highschool. The supplements I named are the bread and butter of the industry. I'm sure you could name 10 other supplements they don't take but that doesn't matter because 99% of the money in the supplement industry comes Whey, creatine, glutamine, fat burners and NO2 products, you know the supplements MMA fighters and all athletes take, not just bodybuilders. How can you not understand this? Your relevance and name recognition comes from the 1% of people who buy supplements for the purpose of bodybuilding and those who follow bodybuilding. Are you going to dispute these claims aswell and claim I am wrong once again? In fact everything I have said is 100% accurate and everything you have said is 100% false. I'm going to break it down so simply that everyone, even people of limited intelligence can easily understand and determine who is credible and who is dellusional. My claims = athletes and people who do not follow bodybuilding account 99% of the supplement industries revenue, people who are competitive bodybuilders and follow bodybuilding account for 1% of the total supplement industry revenue. Bobs claim= Bodybuilders account for the majority of the revenue all other athletes who consume supplements are "fringe sports" to the supplement industry ::) Yes Bob said that, and clearly I'm the one who isn't credible. My Claim David the Crow
Loiseau, former UFC title contendor, who is on national TV every second weekend, has more name recognition than Bob Chickarillo does, a former bodybuilder who comes from an industry in which the pinnacle event is not even on television. His career highlite was winning a master contest that was later proven to be rigged, something everyone in attendance and everyone who saw the show and pics new already. Yes Bob you should have been a lawyer, the way you forge arguments is simply brilliant. My claim = Bob probably signed a contract of around 30k over a two year periode based on the fact that his name has virtually zero draw or pull with 99% of people who consume supplments. Bobs claim= He is the icon of bodybuilding and his name is more recognized than David Loiseau's with the insinuation he makes more money from sponsorships than the crow and more than 100k annually from BSN.
There you have it, the gist of both sides of the argument. Draw your own conclusions as to who is more credible.
Also bear in mind that I didn't insult Bob first. he was deeply offended when I said he didn't sign a multimillion dollar contract and when I said there are people who work 9-5 jobs who probably make more money than Bob. That was more than enough reason for Bob to insult my intelligence and say I have zero credibility. Its ironic that Bob was the one who called out Paul Dillet when he claimed to have signed a 4.2 million dollar contract with MD. That was ok but when I doubt Bob signed a multimillion dollar contract he gets his panties in a knot.
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Hey Chick, got a question for you. Was there a punch thrown between Vic and Chris and did anyone actually get KO'd? Chris is saying it was just pushing.
Thought you'd know better than anyone.
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I thought this was a discussion forum not an essay publishing forum ??? :D
I know man. I seem to never be able to get my pointy across in a short way. I have always had that trouble.
Mussoulini: I know Bob and I like Bob alot. Me and him had it out for awhile but in reality I was not attacking Bob or hate Bob in anyway. I was attacking Manion more than anything and I have my reasons. As I have my reasons I don't respect him, the Weiders or how they do things. As someone who is not a real insider in bodybuilding I sure do have some very close and very well known friends who are about as inside as you can get in some cases emailing me or calling me or Pming me info and stuff. I didn't even listen to more than half of it. But more than anything I hated how Bob was being manipulated and it pissed me off. He is a good guy who has to come on here and get rocks thrown at him for issues that really don't concern him or he has any power over. I always thought Manion and Weider should come on here and answer to everyone. but whatever, what Chic makes or doesn't really doesn't concern us or should it matter. he is fine and doing well. Maybe not Goodrum well but close ;D ;D
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I know man. I seem to never be able to get my pointy across in a short way. I have always had that trouble.
Mussoulini: I know Bob and I like Bob alot. Me and him had it out for awhile but in reality I was not attacking Bob or hate Bob in anyway. I was attacking Manion more than anything and I have my reasons. As I have my reasons I don't respect him, the Weiders or how they do things. As someone who is not a real insider in bodybuilding I sure do have some very close and very well known friends who are about as inside as you can get in some cases emailing me or calling me or Pming me info and stuff. I didn't even listen to more than half of it. But more than anything I hated how Bob was being manipulated and it pissed me off. He is a good guy who has to come on here and get rocks thrown at him for issues that really don't concern him or he has any power over. I always thought Manion and Weider should come on here and answer to everyone. but whatever, what Chic makes or doesn't really doesn't concern us or should it matter. he is fine and doing well. Maybe not Goodrum well but close ;D ;D
Its not really fair to compare Chick or anyone to a man of Goodrums stature. Very few have aquired the wealth and esteem that Vince Goodrum has. ;D
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Bob you still don't understand, and its painfully obvious your education ended after highschool. The supplements I named are the bread and butter of the industry. I'm sure you could name 10 other supplements they don't take but that doesn't matter because 99% of the money in the supplement industry comes Whey, creatine, glutamine, fat burners and NO2 products, you know the supplements MMA fighters and all athletes take, not just bodybuilders. How can you not understand this? Your relevance and name recognition comes from the 1% of people who buy supplements for the purpose of bodybuilding and those who follow bodybuilding. Are you going to dispute these claims aswell and claim I am wrong once again? In fact everything I have said is 100% accurate and everything you have said is 100% false. I'm going to break it down so simply that everyone, even people of limited intelligence can easily understand and determine who is credible and who is dellusional. My claims = athletes and people who do not follow bodybuilding account 99% of the supplement industries revenue, people who are competitive bodybuilders and follow bodybuilding account for 1% of the total supplement industry revenue. Bobs claim= Bodybuilders account for the majority of the revenue all other athletes who consume supplements are "fringe sports" to the supplement industry ::) Yes Bob said that, and clearly I'm the one who isn't credible. My Claim David the Crow
Loiseau, former UFC title contendor, who is on national TV every second weekend, has more name recognition than Bob Chickarillo does, a former bodybuilder who comes from an industry in which the pinnacle event is not even on television. His career highlite was winning a master contest that was later proven to be rigged, something everyone in attendance and everyone who saw the show and pics new already. Yes Bob you should have been a lawyer, the way you forge arguments is simply brilliant. My claim = Bob probably signed a contract of around 30k over a two year periode based on the fact that his name has virtually zero draw or pull with 99% of people who consume supplments. Bobs claim= He is the icon of bodybuilding and his name is more recognized than David Loiseau's with the insinuation he makes more money from sponsorships than the crow and more than 100k annually from BSN.
There you have it, the gist of both sides of the argument. Draw your own conclusions as to who is more credible.
Also bear in mind that I didn't insult Bob first. he was deeply offended when I said he didn't sign a multimillion dollar contract and when I said there are people who work 9-5 jobs who probably make more money than Bob. That was more than enough reason for Bob to insult my intelligence and say I have zero credibility. Its ironic that Bob was the one who called out Paul Dillet when he claimed to have signed a 4.2 million dollar contract with MD. That was ok but when I doubt Bob signed a multimillion dollar contract he gets his panties in a knot.
Holy shit...you're remedial at best.
Go back to school fool...I said that other sports are "fringe sports" when it comes to BODYBUILDING supplements....not the basics that you listed, but BODYBUILDING supplements...you unwittingly made my argument for me.
Now you're claiming PROOF of a contest fix?? LOLOLOL......
Tell you what I'll do idiot....I'll put 5K up to prove to you I make at least 6X your "educated guess"....and I'll donate it to Keith for his new business venture....I'll show Ron Avidan my contract, as he can act as official referee....back up your mouth
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Yall don't hate on Bob Chick.
This dude is a big dogg. He will bitchslap you.
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If Bob is the utter failure that many allege, then why the propensity to discuss him? Personally, I've never been inclined to pick the most unsuccessful person I can find and discuss or debate with them ad nauseam. It's a wonder the tabloids don't focus more on anonymous people with minimum wage jobs. Hardly makes sense.
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This was your first post, unprovoked.... you put out false info, attempt to put me down, and then wonder why I take offense??
In your own words, you say HOWARD thinks I signed a multi-million dollar deal....I never said such a thing.
Cant even get your own story straight...
Yes and it's true. I'm sorry if you take offence to that. I meant what I said in the context that you are hardly in the category of wealthy millionairs as howard was implying. Perhaps I could have worded it better than that and I honestly was not intending to offend you.
I know you have carved out a niche within something you are passionate about and are succesful in terms of having a house and being able to provide for your family.
I thought I gave you props for that. I was simply trying to ilustrate that because you signed with BSN it does not make you a millionair and is not in the same context as a guy like Tiger woods or GSP signing an endorsment contract.
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If Bob is the utter failure that many allege, then why the propensity to discuss him? Personally, I've never been inclined to pick the most unsuccessful person I can find and discuss or debate with them ad nauseam. It's a wonder the tabloids don't focus more on anonymous people with minimum wage jobs. Hardly makes sense.
I agree. He seems like a cool guy and he's gone pretty damn far in bodybuilding. He seems legit to me.
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damn
whatever crediblity bsn once had is slowly being destroyed by bobs actions on here
he is consistent though --- whatever thing he gets involved with always turns to shit...its almost like hes a curse to have him on the same team...
LOL OMG you are so right NW! Bob with bodybuilding.com then they had the steroid fiasco and shame on there face. Soon after they get rid of the poison to the company no surprise so Bob goes on to bring down another company, BSN. How can Bob say he loves BSN's products so soon after he just signed with them, wouldn't he need like a month or two to see if they were effective and he actually did like them, somethings fishy here..
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If Bob is the utter failure that many allege, then why the propensity to discuss him? Personally, I've never been inclined to pick the most unsuccessful person I can find and discuss or debate with them ad nauseam. It's a wonder the tabloids don't focus more on anonymous people with minimum wage jobs. Hardly makes sense.
I dont think anyone called him an utter failure in this thread. I know I didn't.
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I agree. He seems like a cool guy and he's gone pretty damn far in bodybuilding. He seems legit to me.
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Holy shit...you're remedial at best.
Go back to school fool...I said that other sports are "fringe sports" when it comes to BODYBUILDING supplements....not the basics that you listed, but BODYBUILDING supplements...you unwittingly made my argument for me.
Now you're claiming PROOF of a contest fix?? LOLOLOL......
Tell you what I'll do idiot....I'll put 5K up to prove to you I make at least 6X your "educated guess"....and I'll donate it to Keith for his new business venture....I'll show Ron Avidan my contract, as he can act as official referee....back up your mouth
You resort to childish name calling and I am the idiot and a fool, ::) Another great example of the brillaint rebuttals of Bob C.
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You resort to childish name calling and in the same sentance call me an idiot, ::) Another great example of the brillaint rebuttals of Bob C.
Waiting for your answer, you either accept or you dont.
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Holy shit...you're remedial at best.
Go back to school fool...I said that other sports are "fringe sports" when it comes to BODYBUILDING supplements....not the basics that you listed, but BODYBUILDING supplements...you unwittingly made my argument for me.
Now you're claiming PROOF of a contest fix?? LOLOLOL......
Tell you what I'll do idiot....I'll put 5K up to prove to you I make at least 6X your "educated guess"....and I'll donate it to Keith for his new business venture....I'll show Ron Avidan my contract, as he can act as official referee....back up your mouth
Again Bob... you could have just stated what your contract paid, in general ballpark terms, like 4 pages ago. This probably would have saved a lot of time and arguing.
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Waiting for your answer, you either accept or you dont.
if he doesnt accept bob ive got a bet for you and me...
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Waiting for your answer, you either accept or you dont.
Is that 5x 30 grand only from BSN or from all your sources of income.
Why do you feel the need to resort to name calling Bob? Is that somthing somone with a well thoughout argument does, or the actions of a fool or moron as you like to call people?
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Again Bob... you could have just stated what your contract paid, in general ballpark terms, like 4 pages ago. This probably would have saved a lot of time and arguing.
Doesnt expose the fools....where is the fun in that?
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Is that 5x 30 grand only from BSN or from all your sources of income.
Why do you feel the need to resort to name calling Bob? Is that somthing somone with a well thoughout argument does, or the actions of a fool or moron as you like to call people?
You claim I make 30K over two years (15K/ year)....you've stated it over and over....
I'll make it real easy for you...If I make less than 150K / yr TOTAL....you win the 5K
If you're right....KEITH gets the money
Simple....surely your man-love BF The Crow knows, right?
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Lots of people are jealous of Bob Chick obviously because he's got a supp sponsership and he's getting some success.
But Bob Chick is jealous of my MASSIVE ARMS. So it goes both ways.
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I dont think anyone called him an utter failure in this thread. I know I didn't.
I wasn't being literal. If one were to be even remotely interpretative, it would seem that a multitude here seek to discredit Bob's accomplishments. More often than not, the aim is not to participate in intelligent debate, but rather, merely to poke Bob with a stick. It wouldn't matter what response Bob gave, someone would seek to twist his answer and find issue with it, somehow. When Bob gives a response befitting of some of the questions and comments he is subjected to, his antagonists feel justified. It doesn't matter what precipitated the response, only that he didn't respond in a perfect manner suitable to their apparent high moral standards.
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You claim I make 30K over two years (15K/ year)....you've stated it over and over....
I'll make it real easy for you...If I make less than 150K / yr TOTAL....you win the 5K
If you're right....KEITH gets the money
Simple....surely your man-love BF The Crow knows, right?
Thanks Bob, I see you read my post :D
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Thanks Bob, I see you read my post :D
Sure did brother....get this fool to part with his money,
LOL
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Lots of people are jealous of Bob Chick obviously because he's got a supp sponsership and he's getting some success.
But Bob Chick is jealous of my MASSIVE ARMS. So it goes both ways.
LOL
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You claim I make 30K over two years (15K/ year)....you've stated it over and over....
I'll make it real easy for you...If I make less than 150K / yr TOTAL....you win the 5K
If you're right....KEITH gets the money
Simple....surely your man-love BF The Crow knows, right?
Instead of making corny jokes about people you don't know and would slap you silly if you said it to their face, answear the question already if you want to bet. I said your bsn contract was probably around 30k over 2 years. Now are we betting if strictly your BSN contract is 150k, or if you earn atleast 150k from BSN and all other sources of your income combined.
Even if you make 150k a year, that hardly puts you in the category of being wealthy, the main point I was trying to illustrate.
Cue for Bob to dodge the question again and make more corny jokes in 5, 4, 3, ....
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Instead of making corny jokes about people you don't know and would slap you silly if you said it to their face, answear the question already if you want to bet. I said your bsn contract was probably around 30k over 2 years. Now are we betting if strictly your BSN contract is 150k, or if you earn atleast 150k from BSN and all other sources of your income combined.
Even if you make 150k a year, that hardly puts you in the category of being wealthy, the main point I was trying to illustrate.
Here..let me dumb it down for you...
BSN contract- under 100K/ year= you win
deal or no deal??
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You have spent a good portion of your evening for the past two nights arguing with me, a college student over your contract, lol. I guess your ex Tiffany Remley was right about you being obsessed with the boards which leads me to believe she is probably right about her other stories involving you.
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Are you accepting, or backing out?
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Here..let me dumb it down for you...
BSN contract- under 100K/ year= you win
deal or no deal??
Was that so hard? Why did I have to ask you twice? Clearly I am the fool ::)
Your ego must be friggin enourmously massive to really think I give a shit enough to even put of 5$ to find out how much you actually make. I made a fool out of you , a supposed "professional" and spokeperson for BSN. I was entertained. Mission accomplished.
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Was that so hard? Why did I have to ask you twice? Clearly I am the fool ::)
Your ego must be friggin enourmously massive to really think I give a shit enough to even put of 5$ to find out how much you actually make. I made a fool out of you , a supposed "professional" and spokeperson for BSN. I was entertained. Mission accomplished.
Is that a no?
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bob is melting down hard tonight, im sure his keyboard is a mash of crums and spit from his mouth.
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I asked a shit talking fool top back up his mouth...hows that melting?
I'm not the one backpeddling
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The fact that you would even think there was a possibility anyone would pay a dime to know what your income is says much about your character. At the end of the day you spend many hours arguing on the internet with a 25 year old college student about how much money you make. Time you could have spent with you wife, your children or doing something productive. Even at my age it is a little rediculous to be engaging in this kind of activity but I am still young and immature. How old are you again Bob? What does that say about you? Im sure your children will be proud of you when they find out about what a good arguer you were with random people on the internet.
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I asked a shit talking fool top back up his mouth...hows that melting?
I'm not the one backpeddling
Its the internet Bob, relax bud.
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Its the internet Bob, relax bud.
I'm totally relaxed...
Just another shit talker exposed for what he is...all mouth.
Apologize to Keith...your lack of balls just cost him 5K
You came here talking garbage, completely unprovoked, and when pushed to back yourself up...failed miserably.
credability-ZERO...just as I figured
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The fact that you would even think there was a possibility anyone would pay a dime to know what your income is says much about your character. At the end of the day you spend many hours arguing on the internet with a 25 year old college student about how much money you make. Time you could have spent with you wife, your children or doing something productive. Even at my age it is a little rediculous to be engaging in this kind of activity but I am still young and immature. How old are you again Bob? What does that say about you? Im sure your children will be proud of you when they find out about what a good arguer you were with random people on the internet.
What age is the cut off?
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I'm totally relaxed...
Just another shit talker exposed for what he is...all mouth.
Apologize to Keith...your lack of balls just cost him 5K
You came here talking garbage, completely unprovoked, and when pushed to back yourself up...failed miserably.
credability-ZERO...just as I figured
Sure you are Bob, like your blood isn't boiling ::) You exposed yourself as a fool who always takes the bait, but I guess everyone knew that already so it wasn't really an exposure. You showed everyone that you enjoy arguing with random people on the internet more than spending time with your family, all in the effort of "exposing internet shit talkers" lmao. We are all very proud of you Bob, a man in his mid 40's who would rather brag about his contracts and argue on the internet than spend time with his family. You are simply awesome and highly credible.
I have no reason to apologize to Keith. I don't have a beef with him, never did and we respect each other. I don't think Keith, or anyone with an IQ above 80 really thought anyone would put up any money to see how much or little you make. You should apologize for insulting his intelligence by even pondering that someone would pay him 5k in an internet bet.
I wonder who a group of mature and succesful adults would think was a bigger fool after reading this thread. Me, a 25 year old university student with no responsibilites, or yourself. A man in his mid 40's with a wife and child at home who choses to argue on an internet board with strangers rather than spend time with his family. Seriously Bob, why would you argue with me rather than spend time with them? Don't dodge this question for once, give us a straight answer. Is spending time with your family more important to you than arguing on the internet or not?
Why is it so important to you what supposed "internet shit talkers" think? Why do you waste your time talking to people you consider fools and morons?
And how can I be back peddling? I never agreed to be in the first place?
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I just watched the Bob Chick video.
He sounds like Troy McClure from The Simpsons.
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The fact that you would even think there was a possibility anyone would pay a dime to know what your income is says much about your character. At the end of the day you spend many hours arguing on the internet with a 25 year old college student about how much money you make. Time you could have spent with you wife, your children or doing something productive. Even at my age it is a little rediculous to be engaging in this kind of activity but I am still young and immature. How old are you again Bob? What does that say about you? Im sure your children will be proud of you when they find out about what a good arguer you were with random people on the internet.
So why are you spending your nights arguing over another man's income. You are obsessed with Bob Chick, The Crow and probably have a few other man obsessions going on. Classic homosexuality!
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MASSIVE OWNING BESTOWED UPON ROBERT MICHAEL CHICHERILLO:
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So why are you spending your nights arguing over another man's income. You are obsessed with Bob Chick, The Crow and probably have a few other man obsessions going on. Classic homosexuality!
Right, is that what gay people always do? I wouldn't know how to tell. You seem to be an expert on the subject though Nevertheless, I already said I find amusing that I can get a 45 year old man so angry over things I say on the internet, more so that he would rather argue than spend time with his wife and child and I admited that it was pathetic on my part to be arguing like this and I'm a 25 year old college student, still young and immature. What does that say about a 45 year old man with a family?
I'm sure the athletes and other bodybuilders sponsored by BSN argue on the internet all night with random people and make sure to "own" all the "internet shit talkers".
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MASSIVE OWNING BESTOWED UPON ROBERT MICHAEL CHICHERILLO:
LOL your the seventh one who has done that. I can't go that road though but I'm sure BSN will be happy to see how their rep conducts himself.
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Can someone give me a summary of why Bob Chick is an asshole? I'm too lazy to read all this shit.
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Can summery give me a summary of why Bob Chick is an asshole? I'm too lazy to read all this shit.
several posters were acting as though Bob signed a huge contract that would make him rich. I basically said there is no way a supplement company would pay a bodybuilder millions of $ and called BS. Bob took great offence and started insulting me and calling MMA and other sports "fringe sports" in the supplement industry. I again called BS and stated the fact that MMArtist and other nonbodybuilding athletes account for about 99% of the revenue generated in the supplement industry. Bob took even more offence and called me names and said I was not credible. Bob then wanted me to bet 5k to see what he actually make. I told Bob I don;t care enough about what he makes to even pay a dime. Bob was shocked and said I was back peddling even though I never once agreed to bet. In his world if someone proposes a bet, nomatter how outragious, and the other person does not agree to it, somehow they are "back peddling". Somehow in his mind that makes sense.
Thats the gist of it man.
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several posters were acting as though Bob signed a huge contract that would make him rich. I basically said there is no way a supplement company would pay a bodybuilder millions of $ and called BS. Bob took great offence and started insulting me and calling MMA and other sports "fringe sports" in the supplement industry. I again called BS and stated the fact that MMArtist and other nonbodybuilding athletes account for about 99% of the revenue generated in the supplement industry. Bob took even more offence and called me names and said I was not credible. Bob then wanted me to bet 5k to see what he actually make. I told Bob I don;t care enough about what he makes to even pay a dime. Bob was shocked and said I was back peddling even though I never once agreed to bet. In his world if someone proposes a bet, nomatter how outragious, and the other person does not agree to it, somehow they are "back peddling". Somehow in his mind that makes sense.
Thats the gist of it man.
Sounds serious.
Settle it with a dual.
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you want a cookie fella ;D bob chick is a good man for the industry you on other hand is the one with the problem,,,go take some hgh,,,you smoke relax now little fella relax
several posters were acting as though Bob signed a huge contract that would make him rich. I basically said there is no way a supplement company would pay a bodybuilder millions of $ and called BS. Bob took great offence and started insulting me and calling MMA and other sports "fringe sports" in the supplement industry. I again called BS and stated the fact that MMArtist and other nonbodybuilding athletes account for about 99% of the revenue generated in the supplement industry. Bob took even more offence and called me names and said I was not credible. Bob then wanted me to bet 5k to see what he actually make. I told Bob I don;t care enough about what he makes to even pay a dime. Bob was shocked and said I was back peddling even though I never once agreed to bet. In his world if someone proposes a bet, nomatter how outragious, and the other person does not agree to it, somehow they are "back peddling". Somehow in his mind that makes sense.
Thats the gist of it man.
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The ugly truth is that Bob C is part of the problem in professional bodybuilding. He has been an insider for years and has benefitted in many ways disproportionately to his standing as a bodybuilder.
Up until a month ago we all thought that Bob was part of Bodybuilding.com. Well, shows what we know. He is finally getting what he deserves and he deserves what he gets. In a few years he might even have to do personal training to support his family.
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Sure you are Bob, like your blood isn't boiling ::) You exposed yourself as a fool who always takes the bait, but I guess everyone knew that already so it wasn't really an exposure. You showed everyone that you enjoy arguing with random people on the internet more than spending time with your family, all in the effort of "exposing internet shit talkers" lmao. We are all very proud of you Bob, a man in his mid 40's who would rather brag about his contracts and argue on the internet than spend time with his family. You are simply awesome and highly credible.
I have no reason to apologize to Keith. I don't have a beef with him, never did and we respect each other. I don't think Keith, or anyone with an IQ above 80 really thought anyone would put up any money to see how much or little you make. You should apologize for insulting his intelligence by even pondering that someone would pay him 5k in an internet bet.
I wonder who a group of mature and succesful adults would think was a bigger fool after reading this thread. Me, a 25 year old university student with no responsibilites, or yourself. A man in his mid 40's with a wife and child at home who choses to argue on an internet board with strangers rather than spend time with his family. Seriously Bob, why would you argue with me rather than spend time with them? Don't dodge this question for once, give us a straight answer. Is spending time with your family more important to you than arguing on the internet or not?
Why is it so important to you what supposed "internet shit talkers" think? Why do you waste your time talking to people you consider fools and morons?
And how can I be back peddling? I never agreed to be in the first place?
Now you're obsessing over my family?? First you want to dispute my finances, now you bring up my family over and over....
STALKER
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Mo money mo problems.
Don't worry about the playa haters Bob. They have jealousy written all over them. The reasons why they are hating on you seem to be pretty weak. I don't understand what the big deal is here.
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Mo money mo problems.
Don't worry about the playa haters Bob. They have jealousy written all over them. The reasons why they are hating on you seem to be pretty weak. I don't understand what the big deal is here.
LOL...I dint worry...I feel bad for some of these guys, must be rough going through life as a shit talking loser who turns tail and runs when called out. I grew up old school where you backed your words up.
Oh well...amusing none the less
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Jesus I've never seen bob post so much
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This was your first post, unprovoked.... you put out false info, attempt to put me down, and then wonder why I take offense??
In your own words, you say HOWARD thinks I signed a multi-million dollar deal....I never said such a thing.
Cant even get your own story straight...
LOL, well , wrong again. I know Bob does ok and has a good head for business ,but I never thought Bob got a 7 figure deal nor did Bob say that.
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Jesus I've never seen bob post so much
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You have spent a good portion of your evening for the past two nights arguing with me, a college student over your contract, lol. I guess your ex Tiffany Remley was right about you being obsessed with the boards which leads me to believe she is probably right about her other stories involving you.
First off, making a crack related to an ex gf rumor is pretty low in my opinion.
Mussolini, I read in a previous post where you said something about Bob's education not being much past HS.
Plus, you seem to insist that I felt Bob was making millions in contracts.
I know Bob does ok within the BODYBUILING/ Fitness industry. Doing ok in the BB/supplement industry is not like being an investment banker or being a top golfer like Tiger Woods.
It is obvious to me that Bob has a real passion for BB and loves his lifestyle.
I don't know (nor care) exactly what Bob's income $$ is. He is simply proud of being able to "make it" and live comfortably off what he makes in BB via legit sources of income within the industry.
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First off, making a crack related to an ex gf rumor is pretty low in my opinion.
Mussolini, I read in a previous post where you said something about Bob's education not being much past HS.
Plus, you seem to insist that I felt Bob was making millions in contracts.
I know Bob does ok within the BODYBUILING/ Fitness industry. Doing ok in the BB/supplement industry is not like being an investment banker or being a top golfer like Tiger Woods.
It is obvious to me that Bob has a real passion for BB and loves his lifestyle.
I don't know (nor care) exactly what Bob's income $$ is. He is simply proud of being able to "make it" and live comfortably off what he makes in BB via legit sources of income within the industry.
Good post..Man you guys need to stop the shit chucking at Bob , he is a good guy..He would be a hell of alot more helpful and answer your questions if the majority of you were not a bunch of wankers to him..
I dont blame him for adding a bit of sarcasm to his posts at times..
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Good post..Man you guys need to stop the shit chucking at Bob , he is a good guy..He would be a hell of alot more helpful and answer your questions if the majority of you were not a bunch of wankers to him..
I dont blame him for adding a bit of sarcasm to his posts at times..
Bob can be funny as hell and I have DVD of the War for the World ( Pro masters) series.
I honestly believe Bob was talking more about his ability to generate income vie BB sources and how he enjoys the lifestyle that goes with it.
For example, (unlike Bob) I gave up on trying to make a career related to bodybuilding/gym/fitness.
I chose a less glamorous , more conventional path via education and academics.
Now, with just over 20 yrs experience and a doctorate, I make around 80k in base salary plus tenure ( security) a great bennefit package and retairement plan, etc.
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I asked a shit talking fool top back up his mouth...hows that melting?
I'm not the one backpeddling
Bob, I know you doing just fine now with a stable, steady career in the BB industry and a pretty wife, etc.
I was curious if you would share with us, times when you struggled and didn't know if you would "make it" like you have now.
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Bob, I know you doing just fine now with a stable, steady career in the BB industry and a pretty wife, etc.
I was curious if you would share with us, times when you struggled and didn't know if you would "make it" like you have now.
Good question...
Dont really have any rags to riches story, and my ability to make money was never really an issue...t was more about whether or not I would ever achieve my goal of turning professional in the IFBB...my lowest point I would say, was after I blew out my back getting ready for the 98 USA, and having to undergo L-4/5 surgery and fusion...out of activity for a full 8 weeks time...then the eternity of rehab and starting back at square one in the gym was brutal mentally...
I've always seemed to do my best coming from behind...didnt make the cut at the 86 Jr. Nats/ won the overall in the 87 Jr. Nats, back surgery in 98/ 2nd at the Nationals in 99/ pro card in 2000, etc...
Never had the "lived out of my car in the gym parking lot" story...was never that stupid to have put myself in that position. I worked and owned my own gym for 9 years prior to winning the USA/ signing a contract...THEN moving out to L.A.
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You never struck me as the kind of BB that had ever lived out of his car, but I knew you worked long and hard on going pro.
Ok, I was curious if you changed or moderated any of your views on the following in pro BB:
1. Masters getting pro cards and the NPC masters nationals ( * last time you were pretty negative on this)
2. The under 202 lb class ( I think you were undecided on this at first and now positive?)
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Good question...
Dont really have any rags to riches story, and my ability to make money was never really an issue...t was more about whether or not I would ever achieve my goal of turning professional in the IFBB...my lowest point I would say, was after I blew out my back getting ready for the 98 USA, and having to undergo L-4/5 surgery and fusion...out of activity for a full 8 weeks time...then the eternity of rehab and starting back at square one in the gym was brutal mentally...
I've always seemed to do my best coming from behind...didnt make the cut at the 86 Jr. Nats/ won the overall in the 87 Jr. Nats, back surgery in 98/ 2nd at the Nationals in 99/ pro card in 2000, etc...
Never had the "lived out of my car in the gym parking lot" story...was never that stupid to have put myself in that position. I worked and owned my own gym for 9 years prior to winning the USA/ signing a contract...THEN moving out to L.A.
Bob=Hustla
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Do Nitric Oxide (No2) Supplements work?
The last 5 years there has been an absolute craze in the bodybuilding supplement industry over Nitric Oxide (NO2) supplements. Many bodybuilders have not looked at the research and just listened to what other bodybuilders or supplement companies have said. The supplement companies promise increased muscle growth, pumps, vascularity, and even sexual benefits. However, NO supplements may really be the biggest supplement scam to ever hit the bodybuilding industry.
What are NO (Nitric Oxide) supplements?
NO supplements contain some form of arginine, an amino acid. There are many different forms of arginine compounds in the NO supplements today, promising to be better than the other. The goal of NO supplements are to have the arginine break down into NO (Nitric Oxide) into the blood. Arginine can break down into the bloodstream by enzymatic action, into citruline and Nitric Oxide. NO is a vasodilator and is thought to play a role in muscle building. There is some research showing NO levels increase post workout, leading some bodybuilders to believe it is crucial to protein synthesis. Many have theorized that because NO supplements increase blood flow due to NO in the blood, that increased blood flow from NO leads to better muscle growth. NO in the blood is also the same mechanism by which viagra works too.
NO (Nitric Oxide) studies
There is not one single legitimate scientific study showing NO2 supplements taken orally directly increase NO levels in the blood by a significant level. Yes, that is right you have all have been duped by the supplement companies and bodybuilding “gurus” for years now!
Now I did mention earlier, arginine does convert to NO so, why doesn’t arginine supplements increase NO in the blood? Arginine indeed does increase NO levels in the blood, but only when taken intravaneously. Why? Because if you took the doses orally that required a big increase in NO, you would be a vomiting mess. Arginine causes extreme nausea at high doses, that is why all the studies at high doses were done intravaneously. Unfortunately, the upper limit for oral doses, doesn’t seem to increase NO levels much.
Bob? :D
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I remember hearing on one of the few bodybuilding radio shows that Bob made about 250 K on his contract with bodybuilding.com...Knowi ng that his standing in professional bodybuilding hasnt changed, but got more concrete, and that also he still represents bodybuilding well, im sure he wouldnt take a great pay cut to join BSN, they would have to offer more money most likely...
So based on that information, that information alone, he makes a lot of money with BSN and that is most likely not his only type of income...
Bob, i would like to say thanks for staying with Getbig all these years, its been fun reading your posts and coming back after being insulted...I hope you stay even longer....
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I remember hearing on one of the few bodybuilding radio shows that Bob made about 250 K on his contract with bodybuilding.com...Knowi ng that his standing in professional bodybuilding hasnt changed, but got more concrete, and that also he still represents bodybuilding well, im sure he wouldnt take a great pay cut to join BSN, they would have to offer more money most likely...
So based on that information, that information alone, he makes a lot of money with BSN and that is most likely not his only type of income...
Bob, i would like to say thanks for staying with Getbig all these years, its been fun reading your posts and coming back after being insulted...I hope you stay even longer....
I don't think the issue sholuld focus on the exact amount that Bob Chick makes. The fact that Bob has the ability to make a comfortable living from being a spokesman for BB and various companies IS THE ISSUE.
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I don't think the issue sholuld focus on the exact amount that Bob Chick makes. The fact that Bob has the ability to make a comfortable living from being a spokesman for BB and various companies IS THE ISSUE.
Yeah and think he is the first pro bodybuilder that i can think of that has been this successful in doing that..Quite a feat, and says a lot about Bob Chick.....
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I've always seemed to do my best coming from behind...
Sometimes you make this too easy...
;D
I don't really see why all the fuss? Bob Chic represents the "bodybuilding community" well. He's dedicated over half his life to the "sport". Who would you rather have as a male spokesman/representative for the sport...someone like Derek Anthony?
Whether he makes $25 or $250,000 is his own personal business - if he's doing what he enjoys in life and getting paid for it, why should he be criticized?
My $0.02 worth.
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Yeah and think he is the first pro bodybuilder that i can think of that has been this successful in doing that..Quite a feat, and says a lot about Bob Chick.....
I was lucky enough to have Bob sit beside me during most of the prejudging during the 2004 GNC pro show.
The running commnets and insights he talked about showed a deep knowledge and passion for BB.
One thing Bob doesn;t mention is the number of hrs hs spends at expos and directly involved with BB.
I don't have the kind of staying power ( focus) when it comes to BB.
To get where Bob is ya gotta have :
1. The right kind of look
2. public speaking ability
3. some form of BB credential ( IFBB pro card)
4. passion and drive to make it
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What I don't get is why people think Bob shouldn't have a contract with BSN. He may not compete anymore but can you name many other BB's that are in front of the camera or mic as much as Bob. As a sponsor you want exposure. you want you name out there and you sponsor people who can do that. My biggest sponsor was Vuarnet Sunglasses. Armwrestling was not a major sport. It took a little talking from me, a national title at the time and an "in" with the owner because he had married a very close childhood friend of mine. All that got me a contract for unlimited supply of glasses which at the time were very expensive and popular and it wasd a performance contract. I didn't make shit unless I either won (which I got $1000) and/or a photo in a publication, mention on TV or radio ($500). That is why I tried to mention them as much as possible and get their name in print. In fact when Time Magazine interviewed me in Ft Lauderdale I mentioned Vuarnet as my sponsor and if he could make sure they were mentioned in the article. He said he would try but can't guarantee it cause Time is really tough on stuff like that. Well when the article finally came out they did take out Vuarnet and put "dark sunglasses" or something like that, so I didn't get paid shit for being in one of the most respected publications in the world. The photo below shows the Vuarnet logo barely. It was for a newspaper article in LA. I told the photographer to make sure to get the logo in. he did and I collected $500. At the time I made the second highest amount of sponsored athletes with only Martina Navratilova ahead of me.
So sponsors are important and all they want is the exposure and Bob gets as much if not more than any of them. Of course some sponsors just want there prodcut to be associated with that person too. Exposure is not always the primary but being able to say your product with that celebrities name in ads and promotional material is as important.
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Good question...
Dont really have any rags to riches story, and my ability to make money was never really an issue...t was more about whether or not I would ever achieve my goal of turning professional in the IFBB...my lowest point I would say, was after I blew out my back getting ready for the 98 USA, and having to undergo L-4/5 surgery and fusion...out of activity for a full 8 weeks time...then the eternity of rehab and starting back at square one in the gym was brutal mentally...
I've always seemed to do my best coming from behind...didnt make the cut at the 86 Jr. Nats/ won the overall in the 87 Jr. Nats, back surgery in 98/ 2nd at the Nationals in 99/ pro card in 2000, etc...
Never had the "lived out of my car in the gym parking lot" story...was never that stupid to have put myself in that position. I worked and owned my own gym for 9 years prior to winning the USA/ signing a contract...THEN moving out to L.A.
Your best work is done when "comming from behind" LOl I had to pt this out Bob, this is getbig hehehe
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Good post..Man you guys need to stop the shit chucking at Bob , he is a good guy..He would be a hell of alot more helpful and answer your questions if the majority of you were not a bunch of wankers to him..
I dont blame him for adding a bit of sarcasm to his posts at times..
Bob would not catch shit from so many posters here if he would just man up and admit the IFBB is corrupt and fixes contests.
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Bob would not catch shit from so many posters here if he would just man up and admit the IFBB is corrupt and fixes contests.
I don't need Bob to tell me that to know that it's true. What do you think would happen to his gigs if he were to do that?
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Bob would not catch shit from so many posters here if he would just man up and admit the IFBB is corrupt and fixes contests.
Wow you just took over first place for the dumbest remark on Getbig so far this year
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What I don't get is why people think Bob shouldn't have a contract with BSN. He may not compete anymore but can you name many other BB's that are in front of the camera or mic as much as Bob. As a sponsor you want exposure. you want you name out there and you sponsor people who can do that. My biggest sponsor was Vuarnet Sunglasses. Armwrestling was not a major sport. It took a little talking from me, a national title at the time and an "in" with the owner because he had married a very close childhood friend of mine. All that got me a contract for unlimited supply of glasses which at the time were very expensive and popular and it wasd a performance contract. I didn't make shit unless I either won (which I got $1000) and/or a photo in a publication, mention on TV or radio ($500). That is why I tried to mention them as much as possible and get their name in print. In fact when Time Magazine interviewed me in Ft Lauderdale I mentioned Vuarnet as my sponsor and if he could make sure they were mentioned in the article. He said he would try but can't guarantee it cause Time is really tough on stuff like that. Well when the article finally came out they did take out Vuarnet and put "dark sunglasses" or something like that, so I didn't get paid shit for being in one of the most respected publications in the world. The photo below shows the Vuarnet logo barely. It was for a newspaper article in LA. I told the photographer to make sure to get the logo in. he did and I collected $500. At the time I made the second highest amount of sponsored athletes with only Martina Navratilova ahead of me.
So sponsors are important and all they want is the exposure and Bob gets as much if not more than any of them. Of course some sponsors just want there prodcut to be associated with that person too. Exposure is not always the primary but being able to say your product with that celebrities name in ads and promotional material is as important.
Very true Keith, if Bob, or anyone can land a sponsorship deal while they are inactive why wouldn't they? I don't know of anyone who would turn down a sponsorship contract if they were offered.
I'm not above giving Bob props where it is due and he must be doing somthing right to land a deal over athletes who are currently still competing, regardless of whether it is for 5k or 500k. Also Keith if you don't mind I have a few questions about pro arm wrestling., What years was it at its peak in terms of popularity? What status is it in now in term of popularity? And finally what titles did you win and what years were you active in the arm wrestling circuit?
Thanks for your time Keith.
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LOL...I dint worry...I feel bad for some of these guys, must be rough going through life as a shit talking loser who turns tail and runs when called out. I grew up old school where you backed your words up.
Oh well...amusing none the less
Well Bob think what you want, but I've been in more fights than you have ever seen and never ran from anyone ever. Been wrestling since I was 10 and continued wrestling all through university. Wasnt good enough to make the olympics so I got into Submiison grappling and MMA. Won the Canadian submission grappling LHW championship in 2006. You must be thinking about someone else Bob, because I can back up everything I say and would never "turn tail and run" as you put it. Myself, unlike many other posters would say everything I have said about anyone on the internet, including you, to their face. Now I'm not saying you wouldn't also as I heard you actually did confront Titus, but I certainly am not afraid to say anything said on here to the persons face. We don't see eye to eye on certain issues, that is quite apparent, but to imply that I would be afraid of you or run from you is laughable. If you are in Toronto for a BSN or IFBB event do you honestly think I would be the least bit intimidated by you? IF I see you will come up and introduce myself and ask what supplments you would recomend for me to use when I have to cut weight. I don't think I would run from you unless you tried to sell me on some bogus snakeoil product.
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Mussolini is an actual mma fighter. I remember some pics on here of him fighting. He walks the walk. No doubt about that.
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Good question...
Dont really have any rags to riches story, and my ability to make money was never really an issue...t was more about whether or not I would ever achieve my goal of turning professional in the IFBB...my lowest point I would say, was after I blew out my back getting ready for the 98 USA, and having to undergo L-4/5 surgery and fusion...out of activity for a full 8 weeks time...then the eternity of rehab and starting back at square one in the gym was brutal mentally...
I've always seemed to do my best coming from behind...didnt make the cut at the 86 Jr. Nats/ won the overall in the 87 Jr. Nats, back surgery in 98/ 2nd at the Nationals in 99/ pro card in 2000, etc...
Never had the "lived out of my car in the gym parking lot" story...was never that stupid to have put myself in that position. I worked and owned my own gym for 9 years prior to winning the USA/ signing a contract...THEN moving out to L.A.
What have you done to make a living when you first came to LA, Bob??
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Mussolini is an actual mma fighter. I remember some pics on here of him fighting. He walks the walk. No doubt about that.
But Chick outweighs me and has bigger arms. ;D
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Very true Keith, if Bob, or anyone can land a sponsorship deal while they are inactive why wouldn't they? I don't know of anyone who would turn down a sponsorship contract if they were offered.
I'm not above giving Bob props where it is due and he must be doing somthing right to land a deal over athletes who are currently still competing, regardless of whether it is for 5k or 500k. Also Keith if you don't mind I have a few questions about pro arm wrestling., What years was it at its peak in terms of popularity? What status is it in now in term of popularity? And finally what titles did you win and what years were you active in the arm wrestling circuit?
Thanks for your time Keith.
Muss; last time I competed was 1986. I have no idea anything about armwrestling nowadays. I don't watch it unless I am channel surfing and see it and even then I don't know anyone anymore. It is probably as big now as ever. I know what we were trying to do was use the movie and Stallone's name to make it a huge sport. i owned 1/3 of the IAC at the time. And I went around promoting events all over. We owned Stallone's name for about one year after the movie release. We were able to go around and promote events using his name. To this day I still think the prize money and prizes given away at the event in Vegas is the most ever. The truck was worth over $100,000 at the time. I took 4th place at that event (the one in the movie Over the Top). I took 1st place at the Denver Over the Top event which qualified me for the Worlds in Vegas. I won the Nationals in 83' which was the first year I competed. My first event was the California State Championships which I took 3rd but I should have had 1st but got ripped off. That is when I decided I didn't want to compete in that sport and Ric Zumwalt talked me into staying. i won the Worlds in 86' in Vegas. And I won a bunch of small events just so I could collect a check. In most cases they weren't even sanctioned. After that I did not compete anymore. I spent time promoting. I promoted a high School event that we were taking Nationally. Weider was a major sponsor. We were going to have sectionals and bring the winners to Disneyland for the finals where the winners would receieve a Corvette from Chevrolet. We had it all ready to go with the So. Cal event in Redondo Beach. It was awesome. Packed house a zillion kids and a just a whole lot of fun.
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Muss; last time I competed was 1986. I have no idea anything about armwrestling nowadays. I don't watch it unless I am channel surfing and see it and even then I don't know anyone anymore. It is probably as big now as ever. I know what we were trying to do was use the movie and Stallone's name to make it a huge sport. i owned 1/3 of the IAC at the time. And I went around promoting events all over. We owned Stallone's name for about one year after the movie release. We were able to go around and promote events using his name. To this day I still think the prize money and prizes given away at the event in Vegas is the most ever. The truck was worth over $100,000 at the time. I took 4th place at that event (the one in the movie Over the Top). I took 1st place at the Denver Over the Top event which qualified me for the Worlds in Vegas. I won the Nationals in 83' which was the first year I competed. My first event was the California State Championships which I took 3rd but I should have had 1st but got ripped off. That is when I decided I didn't want to compete in that sport and Ric Zumwalt talked me into staying. i won the Worlds in 86' in Vegas. And I won a bunch of small events just so I could collect a check. In most cases they weren't even sanctioned. After that I did not compete anymore. I spent time promoting. I promoted a high School event that we were taking Nationally. Weider was a major sponsor. We were going to have sectionals and bring the winners to Disneyland for the finals where the winners would receieve a Corvette from Chevrolet. We had it all ready to go with the So. Cal event in Redondo Beach. It was awesome. Packed house a zillion kids and a just a whole lot of fun.
Holy Shit Keith! I knew you used to arm wrestle and were good but didn't know you had such an illustrious career. By the sounds of things if there was an arm wrestling hall of fame you would deffinatley be inducted. Way to go man.
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Holy Shit Keith! I knew you used to arm wrestle and were good but didn't know you had such an illustrious career. By the sounds of things if there was an arm wrestling hall of fame you would deffinatley be inducted. Way to go man.
NO WAY ever. I competed 3 years barely from 83 to 86 and not even full years. I think if I stuck to it I could have done pretty well. But, I highly doubt to many people remember who I am from 25 years ago except maybe a few. I did not hang out with any of the guys and in fact I know a few who were I think a little pissed because I didn't compete regularly on the circuit. Armwrestling is an awesome sport to watch in person. Every person who came to an event that never had seen one before always came up to me to tell me they loved it and will watch again. matches that last more than 2 or 3 seconds are unreal to watch. I can't watch to many matches anymore. I put on an event in hawaii where I reffed too and two people broke there arms. it was loud and one of them just screamed so loud.
here is my website www.keithdjones.com (http://www.keithdjones.com)
I am sure I will get ragged by some on here for it and I don't have as good of credentials as Goodrum but I kind of like it.
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you never got caught after breaking the law for over 30 years!
i call that lucky.
what a success story!
Good question...
Dont really have any rags to riches story, and my ability to make money was never really an issue...t was more about whether or not I would ever achieve my goal of turning professional in the IFBB...my lowest point I would say, was after I blew out my back getting ready for the 98 USA, and having to undergo L-4/5 surgery and fusion...out of activity for a full 8 weeks time...then the eternity of rehab and starting back at square one in the gym was brutal mentally...
I've always seemed to do my best coming from behind...didnt make the cut at the 86 Jr. Nats/ won the overall in the 87 Jr. Nats, back surgery in 98/ 2nd at the Nationals in 99/ pro card in 2000, etc...
Never had the "lived out of my car in the gym parking lot" story...was never that stupid to have put myself in that position. I worked and owned my own gym for 9 years prior to winning the USA/ signing a contract...THEN moving out to L.A.
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Well Bob think what you want, but I've been in more fights than you have ever seen and never ran from anyone ever. Been wrestling since I was 10 and continued wrestling all through university. Wasnt good enough to make the olympics so I got into Submiison grappling and MMA. Won the Canadian submission grappling LHW championship in 2006. You must be thinking about someone else Bob, because I can back up everything I say and would never "turn tail and run" as you put it. Myself, unlike many other posters would say everything I have said about anyone on the internet, including you, to their face. Now I'm not saying you wouldn't also as I heard you actually did confront Titus, but I certainly am not afraid to say anything said on here to the persons face. We don't see eye to eye on certain issues, that is quite apparent, but to imply that I would be afraid of you or run from you is laughable. If you are in Toronto for a BSN or IFBB event do you honestly think I would be the least bit intimidated by you? IF I see you will come up and introduce myself and ask what supplments you would recomend for me to use when I have to cut weight. I don't think I would run from you unless you tried to sell me on some bogus snakeoil product.
Muss...you are a real athlete...Bob...well, pranced around in a teeny bikini bottom all oiled up to the adoring applause of a bunch of dudes. Now you know why he feels threatened by you and feels the need to lash out.
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Muss; last time I competed was 1986. I have no idea anything about armwrestling nowadays. I don't watch it unless I am channel surfing and see it and even then I don't know anyone anymore. It is probably as big now as ever. I know what we were trying to do was use the movie and Stallone's name to make it a huge sport. i owned 1/3 of the IAC at the time. And I went around promoting events all over. We owned Stallone's name for about one year after the movie release. We were able to go around and promote events using his name. To this day I still think the prize money and prizes given away at the event in Vegas is the most ever. The truck was worth over $100,000 at the time. I took 4th place at that event (the one in the movie Over the Top). I took 1st place at the Denver Over the Top event which qualified me for the Worlds in Vegas. I won the Nationals in 83' which was the first year I competed. My first event was the California State Championships which I took 3rd but I should have had 1st but got ripped off. That is when I decided I didn't want to compete in that sport and Ric Zumwalt talked me into staying. i won the Worlds in 86' in Vegas. And I won a bunch of small events just so I could collect a check. In most cases they weren't even sanctioned. After that I did not compete anymore. I spent time promoting. I promoted a high School event that we were taking Nationally. Weider was a major sponsor. We were going to have sectionals and bring the winners to Disneyland for the finals where the winners would receieve a Corvette from Chevrolet. We had it all ready to go with the So. Cal event in Redondo Beach. It was awesome. Packed house a zillion kids and a just a whole lot of fun.
Too bad Over the top was such a shitty movie.
The new Pulling John will do more for armwrestling I think. It's sort of like the Pumping Iron of armwrestling.
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Muss...you are a real athlete...Bob...well, pranced around in a teeny bikini bottom all oiled up to the adoring applause of a bunch of dudes. Now you know why he feels threatened by you and feels the need to lash out.
If there is ever an IFBB event in Toronto or a BSN event I will be there and introduce myself to Bob. Now I don't think I'm some kind of tough guy or hero, but we will see who "tucks their tail and runs". I will make sure it is filmed to.
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If there is ever an IFBB event in Toronto or a BSN event I will be there and introduce myself to Bob. Now I don't think I'm some kind of tough guy or hero, but we will see who "tucks their tail and runs". I will make sure it is filmed to.
Bob will pretend not to know you...count on it...
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If there is ever an IFBB event in Toronto or a BSN event I will be there and introduce myself to Bob. Now I don't think I'm some kind of tough guy or hero, but we will see who "tucks their tail and runs". I will make sure it is filmed to.
Ha! So it's you who started the Bob Chic/bodybuilding thread on the other site?
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Ha! So it's you who started the Bob Chic/bodybuilding thread on the other site?
what other site
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Too bad Over the top was such a shitty movie.
The new Pulling John will do more for armwrestling I think. It's sort of like the Pumping Iron of armwrestling.
It didn't do well financially I don't think. I cost about $40 million to make. $15 million was his salary he got paid up front. Cannon at the time did not have a great reputation on paying. I do remember seeing Rodney Dangerfield in the offices with his agent and attorney and heard it was something about getting money he was owed. Dolph to had a problem I heard. They spent alot of money marketing the film and merchindise but still didn't help. It was the perfect time since Cannon was flipping for the bill. John is the best in history and a great guy
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If there is ever an IFBB event in Toronto or a BSN event I will be there and introduce myself to Bob. Now I don't think I'm some kind of tough guy or hero, but we will see who "tucks their tail and runs". I will make sure it is filmed to.
What are you going to say or do to him?
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What are you going to say or do to him?
Ask him what supplements he would recommend for weight cutting. Then maybe ask him where I can find them.
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Ha! So it's you who started the Bob Chic/bodybuilding thread on the other site?
Its Hardly a Bob chick thread, I just use him as an example of a guy who thinks he is tough and that people would be afraid of him because he is a bodybuilder.
Slater, the other site is www.sherdog.com an MMA site, below is the thread. As you will see, he is highly respected by the people on sherdog, especially after his comments about David Louiseau.
http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f48/people-intimidated-bodybuilders-1200151/index2.html
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muss is a real athlete who walks the walk
bobby chicky is a geezer who gets winded walking on his treadmill at 2 mph...bob maybe if u took endorush before hand u would have more stamina
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muss is a real athlete who walks the walk
bobby chicky is a geezer who gets winded walking on his treadmill at 2 mph...bob maybe if u took endorush before hand u would have more stamina
Chick wont give us any help on BSN products so we'll have to find another product line Gene.
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Chick wont give us any help on BSN products so we'll have to find another product line Gene.
i want to buy a lot of bsn products cuz they look real good but bob is ignoring my concerns and making me think of trying another company
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If there is ever an IFBB event in Toronto or a BSN event I will be there and introduce myself to Bob. Now I don't think I'm some kind of tough guy or hero, but we will see who "tucks their tail and runs". I will make sure it is filmed to.
Your self assessment of being immature was right on the money. It is quite evident that you do in fact fancy yourself as a tough guy. Precisely why should Bob, or anyone else for that matter, run from you? Are you making some kind of threat? Grow up.
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Your self assessment of being immature was right on the money. It is quite evident that you do in fact fancy yourself as a tough guy. Precisely why should Bob, or anyone else for that matter, run from you? Are you making some kind of threat? Grow up.
Yes I am very immature for my age, no doubt about it. Thanks for pointing out something I already admitted. Bob and I are about the same maturity level. As for me making threats, it was Bob who accused me first of being a coward and tuck tailing and run. Sorry Mr.1derful, but I don't take to kindly to a juiced up mongloid who prances around in a thong posing for gay men calling me a coward, and claiming I would run from him. Maybe thats ok with you, so to each their own. No one said Bob should be afraid of me, I sure didn't but I doubt he would call me a coward or say I have no credibility to my face. I would however say everything I have said in this thread to his face. He will have the opportunity to prove he "is old school" if he is ever in TO with BSN or the IFBB.
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i want to buy a lot of bsn products cuz they look real good but bob is ignoring my concerns and making me think of trying another company
that is terrible to hear NW, although I am sure any other company would be more than happy to have your business and answer your questions, all without insulting you! Freakin Bob is outta control, on a high horse thinkin he can talk to anybody any way he wants.
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that is terrible to hear NW, although I am sure any other company would be more than happy to have your business and answer your questions, all without insulting you! Freakin Bob is outta control, on a high horse thinkin he can talk to anybody any way he wants.
jt
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that is terrible to hear NW, although I am sure any other company would be more than happy to have your business and answer your questions, all without insulting you! Freakin Bob is outta control, on a high horse thinkin he can talk to anybody any way he wants.
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I think he may just eat his words. Their is a 12 page thread on sherdog where Chick has been exposed as a shit talking egotistical fool. Most of the veiwers take supplements and are writing BSN letters telling of chicks antics, and his gay 4 pay association. If one or two people write letters they would just play them off as haters. If 200 people write letters they will have to take notice. The MMA community is a tight nit bunch and they saw the parts where Chick was insulting David the Crow Louiseau and belittling him and calling me a coward, saying I would run from him or he put it "tuck tail and run" and that I am not credible. Sorry Bob I have helped hundreds of people on sherdog with MMA and wrestling training, diet and technique info, seems like you would have more support if you did the same.
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I think he may just eat his words. Their is a 12 page thread on sherdog where Chick has been exposed as a shit talking egotistical fool. Most of the veiwers take supplements and are writing BSN letters telling of chicks antics, and his gay 4 pay association. If one or two people write letters they would just play them off as haters. If 200 people write letters they will have to take notice. The MMA community is a tight nit bunch and they saw the parts where Chick was insulting David the Crow Louiseau and belittling him and calling me a coward, saying I would run from him or he put it "tuck tail and run" and that I am not credible. Sorry Bob I have helped hundreds of people on sherdog with MMA and wrestling training, diet and technique info, seems like you would have more support if you did the same.
Just because Sherdog had their name emblazoned in the middle of the Octagon for a few years doesn't mean anyone pays any attention to them, just ask Larry Peepee.
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Bob Chick is counting a stack of money somewhere and doesn't even know what you all are saying.
That's what it seems like.
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Yes I am very immature for my age, no doubt about it. Thanks for pointing out something I already admitted. Bob and I are about the same maturity level. As for me making threats, it was Bob who accused me first of being a coward and tuck tailing and run. Sorry Mr.1derful, but I don't take to kindly to a juiced up mongloid who prances around in a thong posing for gay men calling me a coward, and claiming I would run from him. Maybe thats ok with you, so to each their own. No one said Bob should be afraid of me, I sure didn't but I doubt he would call me a coward or say I have no credibility to my face. I would however say everything I have said in this thread to his face. He will have the opportunity to prove he "is old school" if he is ever in TO with BSN or the IFBB.
This internet thing is serious business for you then. Perhaps one day you'll be more multi-dimensional. Until then, I truly hope you accomplish your life long goal of confronting Bob Chick face to face. A lofty goal indeed. Good luck with that.
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This internet thing is serious business for you then. Perhaps one day you'll be more multi-dimensional. Until then, I truly hope you accomplish your life long goal of confronting Bob Chick face to face. A lofty goal indeed. Good luck with that.
Thanks for the support. In school the teachers used to say we can do anything we set our minds to. I'm really focused and trying to block everything else in life out other than seeing Chick in person. Hopefully the teachers weren't lying.
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Its Hardly a Bob chick thread, I just use him as an example of a guy who thinks he is tough and that people would be afraid of him because he is a bodybuilder.
Slater, the other site is www.sherdog.com an MMA site, below is the thread. As you will see, he is highly respected by the people on sherdog, especially after his comments about David Louiseau.
http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f48/people-intimidated-bodybuilders-1200151/index2.html
Best quote from that thread:
If I needed a personal trainer, I go with a bb, if I needed to learn how to fight, I go with skinny Brazilian kid/a guy by the name of Jung/cock tat on chest.
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Best quote from that thread:
Yah I saw that one, I LOL. Some other good ones too.
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Chick hasnt posted in a while. Has he been instructed by BSN to sit quietly and let this thread die?
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I predicted a few days back that Bob would leave getbig now.
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I predicted a few days back that Bob would leave getbig now.
BSN b s can't withstand Getbig scrutiny.
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I predicted a few days back that Bob would leave getbig now.
What will happen to his bodyspace account at bodybuilding.com? And who will take control of his special mod powers?
These are the important questions we must find out about.
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Mussolini, are you aware of Bob's past in the 'sport'?
You have to realise that 99% of Bodybuilders do Gay4Pay at some point, Bob did it in his younger years, Ive personally seen Bob at a Private Posing Session in a large hotel room in Vegas specifically for gay men.Bodybuilding doesnt pay well for most, so they have to make money to survive and using their body is the easiest way to put food on the table.Ive seen most of the guys from the 70's onwards perform various acts for gay men, it just isnt talked about publically.
I wasnt sure you were a serious account, but this is correct.He would allow naked wrestling, with Bob and the client naked but no sex acts were allowed.This didnt stop alot of the guys attempting Frottage and as long as it wasnt too obvious,then this was allowed.
So you deny ever meeting with 8 gay men in The Mirage Hotel in Vegas in 1993?You chose to do this and we "fags" helped keep food on your table when you were not doing so well.It is one thing to deny something publically that you are ashamed of but quite another to use a derogatory word to describe a group of people that kept you afloat.
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Chick hasnt posted in a while. Has he been instructed by BSN to sit quietly and let this thread die?
Yeah, thats it...
Out of town with BSN at the Pittsburgh show...you know...WORKING, Try it sometime....
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Mussolini, are you aware of Bob's past in the 'sport'?
We didnt know these things good info
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I think he may just eat his words. Their is a 12 page thread on sherdog where Chick has been exposed as a shit talking egotistical fool. Most of the veiwers take supplements and are writing BSN letters telling of chicks antics, and his gay 4 pay association. If one or two people write letters they would just play them off as haters. If 200 people write letters they will have to take notice. The MMA community is a tight nit bunch and they saw the parts where Chick was insulting David the Crow Louiseau and belittling him and calling me a coward, saying I would run from him or he put it "tuck tail and run" and that I am not credible. Sorry Bob I have helped hundreds of people on sherdog with MMA and wrestling training, diet and technique info, seems like you would have more support if you did the same.
LOL...what the hell are you talking about, whackjob? gay for pay assoc.?? LOLOLOL......
I dont have time to read through your stalker like ramblings...someone give me the cliff notes on what this guy is wrong about now....
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Mussolini, are you aware of Bob's past in the 'sport'?
LOL....this fool was exposed as a fraud a LONG time ago, moron...
Sorry, as much as you want me on "your team"...I'm just not.
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someone give me the cliff notes on what this guy is wrong about now....
sure ill help u bob
u crossed the line w your comments this time and now u are in over your head. youre in too deep for any of us to help u. good luck
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sure ill help u bob
u crossed the line w your comments this time and now u are in over your head. youre in too deep for any of us to help u. good luck
Keep dreaming loser...
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LOL....this fool was exposed as a fraud a LONG time ago, moron...
Sorry, as much as you want me on "your team"...I'm just not.
where was sergiopump exposed as a fraud? he seems quite credible. his stories have too many details to be made up.
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where was sergiopump exposed as a fraud? he seems quite credible. his stories have too many details to be made up.
must be the truth if you read it on the internet from an anonymous guy who post under the name "Sergiopump", right?
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must be the truth if you read it on the internet from an anonymous guy who post under the name "Sergiopump", right?
Bob why the constant insults, please for the love of god answer NW's questions nicely.
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sure ill help u bob
u crossed the line w your comments this time and now u are in over your head. youre in too deep for any of us to help u. good luck
Gene has asked several times for help on the product line.
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Gene has asked several times for help on the product line.
Sure has...too bad he constantly insults me. No need for me to patronize him...
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Hey Chick congrats. I actually know Scott somewhat through a mutual friend, nice guy and great businessman. Im sure they will treat you well.
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Hey Chick congrats. I actually know Scott somewhat through a mutual friend, nice guy and great businessman. Im sure they will treat you well.
Already have...couldn't have asked for a better company to work for....as for Scott, what I like most is that he's still out there...in the mix, in the BB community, has a real hands on approach for his company
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What I like most is his car collection lol
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Sure has...too bad he constantly insults me. No need for me to patronize him...
never saw him insult you unless of course you insult him first which is always the case.
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Lots of psuedo tough guys in this thread.......probably all around 15 years of age!! :)
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never saw him insult you unless of course you insult him first which is always the case.
Really? Might want to check out his 1st post on this thread...page 4
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Really? Might want to check out his 1st post on this thread...page 4
Chick your going down. You are in way over your head. You have been associated with G4pay activities by people with no reason to lie. Your best friend Tom Prince is one of the most well known male escorts. Are we to believe you didn't know what your best friend, the guy you trained with and saw everyday, was doing? Dozens and dozens of people in the MMA community saw your insults to myself and Louiseau and wrote letters to BSN. You insulted MMArtist, people who buy BSN supplements. Arent you supposed to attract customers instead of insult them? Isnt that what BSN pays you 250k a year for lol?
I will see you when you are in Toronto. Who do you think will tuck tail and run? I bet you wont have the balls to say anything insulting or negative to me in person. I will however say whatever I want to you and you will just stand there and do nothing.
You crossed the line when you called me a coward. A thong wearer who poses for a gay male audience has the audacity to call a real athlete a coward lol.
See bob unlike yourself, I actually help people with training, diet and MMA technique info whenver they ask. Maybe if you tried that sometime you wouldnt be so hated even on bodybuilding boards.
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Lots of psuedo tough guys in this thread.......probably all around 15 years of age!! :)
Actually I have posted pics and video's of many of my fights.
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LOL....this fool was exposed as a fraud a LONG time ago, moron...
Sorry, as much as you want me on "your team"...I'm just not.
Chick don't you understand yet? The only person who has been exposed as a fraud is you. 90% of Getbig thinks so. The only person you are credible to is you and maybe 2-3 other bodybuilders who kiss your ass on this site.
Why would he lie? How could he benefit? You on the other hand have every reason to lie about not being involved with G4P.
Classic example of why you have zero cred. There are countless stories from people who have no reason to lie, about Tom Prince G4P incidents. You were best friends with him yet claim to know nothing of his G4P past....hmmmm. Sounds like you are really credible.
Simple logic but of course you don't understand.
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Bob why the constant insults, please for the love of god answer NW's questions nicely.
excuse me little girl, there are man talking here
::) ::) ::)
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Chick your going down. You are in way over your head. You have been associated with G4pay activities by people with no reason to lie. Your best friend Tom Prince is one of the most well known male escorts. Are we to believe you didn't know what your best friend, the guy you trained with and saw everyday, was doing? Dozens and dozens of people in the MMA community saw your insults to myself and Louiseau and wrote letters to BSN. You insulted MMArtist, people who buy BSN supplements. Arent you supposed to attract customers instead of insult them? Isnt that what BSN pays you 250k a year for lol?
I will see you when you are in Toronto. Who do you think will tuck tail and run? I bet you wont have the balls to say anything insulting or negative to me in person. I will however say whatever I want to you and you will just stand there and do nothing.
You crossed the line when you called me a coward. A thong wearer who poses for a gay male audience has the audacity to call a real athlete a coward lol.
See bob unlike yourself, I actually help people with training, diet and MMA technique info whenver they ask. Maybe if you tried that sometime you wouldnt be so hated even on bodybuilding boards.
LOL...you're amusing...I'll give you that.
You've been wrong on every single thing you've claimed...wrong on how much I make (why this is of interest to you is still a mystery), wrong on your boy having a contract with BSN, wrong on that other horseshit you wrote about my masters win being a "set up", signing with BB.com AFTER the show (I was already under contract for 3 years prior), wrong about them being a sponsor of the show (they werent a sponsor at ANY level)...
And now you want to accuse me of being involved in some G4P bullshit?? LOL......anything to try and make yourself look even somewhat credible, right?
You're a loser,,,plain and simple.
go back to swinging on the Crows nuts, fanboy...havent you embarrased him enough?
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excuse me little girl, there are man talking here
::) ::) ::)
Please tell me thats NOT a real picture of this guy....
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I remember hearing on one of the few bodybuilding radio shows that Bob made about 250 K on his contract with bodybuilding.com...Knowi ng that his standing in professional bodybuilding hasnt changed, but got more concrete, and that also he still represents bodybuilding well, im sure he wouldnt take a great pay cut to join BSN, they would have to offer more money most likely...
So based on that information, that information alone, he makes a lot of money with BSN and that is most likely not his only type of income...
Bob, i would like to say thanks for staying with Getbig all these years, its been fun reading your posts and coming back after being insulted...I hope you stay even longer....
Nahhh...according to our resident expert, Musolini....based on his concrete evidence of having a friend who's a MMA fighter who NOT under contract with BSN....he claims that I signed for 15K/ year
Believe him, or he'll get his boy "the crow" to beat you up.....
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Please tell me thats NOT a real picture of this guy....
yes bob, it sure is JTSUNAMI
you can often find him on the steroid board dispensing information on how to use hormones
i mean, wouldnt you take steroid and lifting advice from this young man ::) ::)
he is openly homosexual by the way......here is his boyfriend
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seriously....
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seriously....
So why don't you inform him of some supplements he can use and give him some training advice instead of insulting him? So a persons self worth is directly related to how big and muscular they are?
I was never wrong about anything. I was estimating what your contract was I never said I knew, I said it was probably closer to 30k over two years than it was to 250k annually, it was a guess. So what if I was wrong? I've been wrong before so have you, life goes on.
Are you implying I would ask the David, or anyone for assistance in a physical confrontation with you?
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Nahhh...according to our resident expert, Musolini....based on his concrete evidence of having a friend who's a MMA fighter who NOT under contract with BSN....he claims that I signed for 15K/ year
Believe him, or he'll get his boy "the crow" to beat you up.....
For someone with a paper route, 15K is a lot of money. He probably couldn't fathom someone's income exceeding that.
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So why don't you inform him of some supplements he can use and give him some training advice instead of insulting him?
I was never wrong about anything. I was estimating what your contract was I never said I knew, I said it was probably closer to 30k over two years than it was to 250k annually, it was a guess. So what if I was wrong? I've been wrong before so have you, life goes on.
Are you implying I would ask the David, or anyone for assistance in a physical confrontation with you?
bob chick really seems to be deep in you mind f@ggot.... ::) ::)
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For someone with a paper route, 15K is a lot of money. He probably couldn't fathom someone's income exceeding that.
Yes considering I'm a student 15k would be a nice chunk of change for me. I'm sure you were rolling in the doh while you were in college.
15k is alot of money to most people. COuldnt you use an extra 15k?
Nice to see you have an anti gay sentiment amoung your followers bob, real professional. Your cronies have to make gay jokes to back you up. Wow.
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Yes considering I'm a student 15k would be a nice chunk of change for me. I'm sure you were rolling in the doh while you were in college.
15k is alot of money to most people. COuldnt you use an extra 15k?
Nice to see you have an anti gay sentiment amoung your followers bob, real professional. Your cronies have to make gay jokes to back you up. Wow.
Community college? Going to get your grade 10, Ricky? ;D
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So why don't you inform him of some supplements he can use and give him some training advice instead of insulting him? So a persons self worth is directly related to how big and muscular they are?
I was never wrong about anything. I was estimating what your contract was I never said I knew, I said it was probably closer to 30k over two years than it was to 250k annually, it was a guess. So what if I was wrong? I've been wrong before so have you, life goes on.
Are you implying I would ask the David, or anyone for assistance in a physical confrontation with you?
First...I dont believe I need to answer to anyone who constantly has nothing but negative to say about me, then wants advices?? Right....I'll be sure to get right back to him....
Secondly...you havent been right about ANYTHING...nothing, zero, nada, zippo, ziltch.....
How about this novel idea.....ASKING FIRST. Instead, you come out of nowhere talking shit and insulting me...
Now you're on some tough guy rampage? Are you kidding me...really? what are you 12 years old now.?
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Yes considering I'm a student 15k would be a nice chunk of change for me. I'm sure you were rolling in the doh while you were in college.
15k is alot of money to most people. COuldnt you use an extra 15k?
Nice to see you have an anti gay sentiment amoung your followers bob, real professional. Your cronies have to make gay jokes to back you up. Wow.
1. I'm not responsible for what they say
2. I could care less if you're gay
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1. I'm not responsible for what they say
2. I could care less if you're gay
couldn't... ;D
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1. I'm not responsible for what they say
2. I could care less if you're gay
It's couldn't care less. And I'm not gay but not anti gay either. I am Anti gay for pay because of the prostitution aspect of it. Would be against men escorting women to support drug habits too.
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Community college? Going to get your grade 10, Ricky? ;D
Shh, I'm just pretending to go to college, I'm really just the janitor.
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Shh, I'm just pretending to go to college, I'm really just the janitor.
Well played. lol
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First...I dont believe I need to answer to anyone who constantly has nothing but negative to say about me, then wants advices?? Right....I'll be sure to get right back to him....
Secondly...you havent been right about ANYTHING...nothing, zero, nada, zippo, ziltch
How about this novel idea.....ASKING FIRST. Instead, you come out of nowhere talking shit and insulting me...
Now you're on some tough guy rampage? Are you kidding me...really? what are you 12 years old now.?
YOu sure about that Bob? Reallly sure? Maybe I was wrong about how much you make, we will never know. Are you saying I was wrong when I said competive bodybuilders make up about 1% of the total revenue generated in the supplement industry? I am right about that, feel free to show me some stats to the contrary though. Was I wrong when I said people who train MMA and other sports spend more on supplements than competitive bodybuilders? I think I am also right about that but feel free to show me some stats that prove me wrong though.
Seems I'm atleast 2 for 3. You are 0 for 2. I know you likley do not understand basic mathematics but 2 is more than zero, so I was right more than you. If you have windows xp, 2000 or Vista I think it has a calculator in the acssesories section. Might help you with your adding.
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Well played. lol
They were in my home town, Kitchener Ontario not too long ago. Got to see Ricky, Julian and Bubbles live. Saw Randy and Layhee
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It's couldn't care less. And I'm not gay but not anti gay either. I am Anti gay for pay because of the prostitution aspect of it. Would be against men escorting women to support drug habits too.
You claim not to be gay but with you admit to having a strong man fix? I am sure you really enjoy "rolling" with your wrestling clients :-X
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You claim not to be gay but with you admit to having a strong man fix? I am sure you really enjoy "rolling" with your wrestling clients :-X
Very witty and original! Pure genious infact! Calling rolling gay, never been done before ::) Coming from someone who calls himself "OneManGang". I already said I'm not anti gay and Bob said he couldn't care less if someone is a homosexual, so its ok OneManGang, you can be yourself on here.
What is the genesis of your name anyway? Calling someone gay as an insult with a name like Onemangang is like shit telling vomit it stinks.
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Very witty and original! Pure genious infact! Calling rolling gay, never been done before ::) Coming from someone who calls himself "OneManGang". I already said I'm not anti gay and Bob said he couldn't care less if someone is a homosexual, so its ok OneManGang, you can be yourself on here.
What is the genesis of your name anyway? Calling someone gay as an insult with a name like Onemangang is like shit telling vomit it stinks.
Rolling is not gay, but your are. Sorry to hurt your feelings.
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Seems to me this student is doing okay vs Bob Chick. Can't believe this thread is still going and hapless Bob is there defending himself but this time he seems pinned against the ropes by a college student from Kitchener.
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Seems to me this student is doing okay vs Bob Chick. Can't believe this thread is still going and hapless Bob is there defending himself but this time he seems pinned against the ropes by a college student from Kitchener.
You seem to be "interested" in this student. One for your album?
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All the gimmicks on Getbig can't save Bob's ass. Mussolini is giving Bob a hiding.
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You seem to be "interested" in this student. One for your album?
OK man now you've accused two people of being gay. Why are you so concerned with everyones sexuality? YOu are the only one who keeps bringing it up, therefore I'm inclined to believe you are a closest homosexual. Not that there everything wrong with that but its common knowledge that 9 times outta 10 the guy accusing everyone else of being gay is gay himself. Why on earth do you bring up being gay or associating things with being gay in every post, seriously? You have a serious man crush on Bob, its painfully obvious. Sorry to burst your bubble but I believe Bob is married to a woman. Maybe Goodrum is single, try your luck with him.
4 posts by you and all are on the topic of homosexuality. Clearly the actions of a straight man ::)
Cue OneManGang to comment about somone or somthing being gay in 5, 4, 3, 2, ..
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YOu sure about that Bob? Reallly sure? Maybe I was wrong about how much you make, we will never know. Are you saying I was wrong when I said competive bodybuilders make up about 1% of the total revenue generated in the supplement industry? I am right about that, feel free to show me some stats to the contrary though. Was I wrong when I said people who train MMA and other sports spend more on supplements than competitive bodybuilders? I think I am also right about that but feel free to show me some stats that prove me wrong though.
Seems I'm atleast 2 for 3. You are 0 for 2. I know you likley do not understand basic mathematics but 2 is more than zero, so I was right more than you. If you have windows xp, 2000 or Vista I think it has a calculator in the acssesories section. Might help you with your adding.
Oh...I get it. By simply declaring yourself right, you somehow have stats to the contrary?
I seem to not remember any evidence being submitted to back up your claims....feel free to correct me.
As for using the calculator...may want to take your own advices and go back to the GNC thread....try and calculate how many shows their have been, heres a hint: between 1 and 3
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Chick your going down. You are in way over your head. You have been associated with G4pay activities by people with no reason to lie. Your best friend Tom Prince is one of the most well known male escorts. Are we to believe you didn't know what your best friend, the guy you trained with and saw everyday, was doing? Dozens and dozens of people in the MMA community saw your insults to myself and Louiseau and wrote letters to BSN. You insulted MMArtist, people who buy BSN supplements. Arent you supposed to attract customers instead of insult them? Isnt that what BSN pays you 250k a year for lol?
I will see you when you are in Toronto. Who do you think will tuck tail and run? I bet you wont have the balls to say anything insulting or negative to me in person. I will however say whatever I want to you and you will just stand there and do nothing.
You crossed the line when you called me a coward. A thong wearer who poses for a gay male audience has the audacity to call a real athlete a coward lol.
See bob unlike yourself, I actually help people with training, diet and MMA technique info whenver they ask. Maybe if you tried that sometime you wouldnt be so hated even on bodybuilding boards.
I don't understand your actual goal here or why you seem to dislike Bob so kuch, what is up with that?
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what would Bob bring to BSN to have a 300k contract ??
I am dying to find out
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Shh, I'm just pretending to go to college, I'm really just the janitor.
An experienced head custodian at a big building can make some decent $$, seriously.
Ok Mussolini, you seem like a smart young man and asked some legit questions .
Obviously, you are just trying to give Bob Chick a hard time for some reason.
Granted, lots of wacky crap goes on behind the scenes in BB.
I know that as do many here at get big. Many of us simply accept the stupid crap and tend to ignore it as we enjoy the overall atmosphere of BB and contests/expos.
You seem into MMA and that is fine. If you prefer that perhaps you should focus on that and avoid causing tension here on the get big bodybuiding forum.
Bob has been in this game a long time and dealt with a lot worse crap than what you have slung. I am not trying to be negative about you, just trying to move things in a positive direction. I just don't see the purpose is?
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Bob is insulting Mussolinis manhood on here, Ill be disappointed if Mussolini doesnt confront Bob to show that he will back down, anything less is a pure bitch move imho.From what Ive read at Sherdog they backup their claims and would be seen as a real pussy if they dont act on their word.
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im 100% sure if Mussolini went up to bob at a supplement booth, chick wouldnt do shit and would pretend to not know who Mussolini is.
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Chick is a tough guy behind a computer. He talks alot of trash about people (i.e. Titus), but we all know that when Titus wasnt locked up chick would soil himself at the thought of a confrontation with him.
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Bob Chick, don't fear "musolini". He is a show-off kind of "tough guy" with a mullet and tatoo, who is in awe of amounts up to $15,000.
At least you have achieved something in your sport. He has done nothing. His MMA record is 0-1 (lost on KO in round 1). His opponent was 0-2 at the time. Now his opponent is 1-3 with his only victory coming over "musolini". Any one of us can step into a cage or ring and leave with a 0-1 record. We can even fight Fedor or Brock Lesnar and we will have the same record as "musolini". Calling him an MMA fighter is like calling Goodrum a bodybuilder.
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im 100% sure if Mussolini went up to bob at a supplement booth, chick wouldnt do shit and would pretend to not know who Mussolini is.
Thats true, it all boils down to out most primal instincts, women are lower on the food chain than men because they know any men could beat them to a pulp in a fight, America is top of the food chain because they could blow any country to bits.Likewise Chick knows he is lower than Mussolini because if it came down to our most primal instinct, us fighting to survive in say a Nuclear holocaust, and Chick came up against a trained fighter in Mussolini, he knows his life would be ended.
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Chick is a tough guy behind a computer. He talks alot of trash about people (i.e. Titus), but we all know that when Titus wasnt locked up chick would soil himself at the thought of a confrontation with him.
Great example of a real man, "Titus". How did his behavior work out for him and his BB career?
In society guys like Craig Titus end up in jail or dead.
If Mussolini really went to the expo and gave Bob a bunch of verbal crap, he would get escorted out by security.
If he tried something with Bob it could end up in his arrest.
Many tough guys seem to think that the rest of the world plays by their rules .
They use terms like "calling you out" and "snitchin" if anyone refuses to play and calls the cops.
I know that the president of the USA has some secret service agent take out the idiots and wackos for him and doesn't fight one on one with any disgruntled wackos and tough guys.
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Great example of a real man, "Titus". How did his behavior work out for him and his BB career?
In society guys like Craig Titus end up in jail or dead.
If Mussolini really went to the expo and gave Bob a bunch of verbal crap, he would get escorted out by security.
If he tried something with Bob it could end up in his arrest.
Many tough guys seem to think that the rest of the world plays by their rules .
They use terms like "calling you out" and "snitchin" if anyone refuses to play and calls the cops.
I know that the president of the USA has some secret service agent take out the idiots and wackos for him and doesn't fight one on one with any disgruntled wackos and tough guys.
Musolini has a 0-1 record in MMA. I think you guys are overestimating this unsavoury character.
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Musolini has a 0-1 record in MMA. I think you guys are overestimating this unsavoury character.
My pt is it doesn't matter how much a bad ass this Mussolini is.
He doesn't seem to like Bob , which is his right. BUT, if he thinks he is going make any dent in Bob's life in BB he is out to lunch.
Like most of us , he is just another Joe Blow trying to get attention on an internet forum.
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My pt is it doesn't matter how much a bad ass this Mussolini is.
He doesn't seem to like Bob , which is his right. BUT, if he thinks he is going make any dent in Bob's life in BB he is out to lunch.
Like most of us , he is just another Joe Blow trying to get attention on an internet forum.
He is obsessed with Bob's success
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Musolini has a 0-1 record in MMA. I think you guys are overestimating this unsavoury character.
He could be respected by all Getbig/Sherdog members if he has the balls to confont Bob, and not be known for his 0-1 losing record but I dont think he has the testicular fortitude to follow through with it.
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He could be respected by all Getbig/Sherdog members if he has the balls to confont Bob, and not be known for his 0-1 losing record but I dont think he has the testicular fortitude to follow through with it.
He will stay away from Bob unless he wants to go 0-2.
(Bob by security toss out)
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He could be respected by all Getbig/Sherdog members if he has the balls to confont Bob, and not be known for his 0-1 losing record but I dont think he has the testicular fortitude to follow through with it.
LOL, what does respect from the getbig bunch pay I wonder ? hehehe
Getting respect from a BB forum is like being the smartest guy in the speical ed class.
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My pt is it doesn't matter how much a bad ass this Mussolini is.
He doesn't seem to like Bob , which is his right. BUT, if he thinks he is going make any dent in Bob's life in BB he is out to lunch.
Like most of us , he is just another Joe Blow trying to get attention on an internet forum.
you're a nit wit howard...muss in no way is trying to get attention on an internet forum.
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I've not kept up with this thread, but can someone please fill me in. Is Bob claiming that he is being paid $300,000 per year by BSN?
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I've not kept up with this thread, but can someone please fill me in. Is Bob claiming that he is being paid $300,000 per year by BSN?
There is this "musolini" guy who gets a kick out of claiming that Bob earns $15k per year by BSN. Anything above is an "astornomical" amount for that guy :-\
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There is this "musolini" guy who gets a kick out of claiming that Bob earns $15k per year by BSN. Anything above is an "astornomical" amount for that guy :-\
lol.
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Musolini has a 0-1 record in MMA. I think you guys are overestimating this unsavoury character.
4-0 as an amature and 1-1 as a pro, still not a great record but I never claimed to be anything special. I wrestle and submission grapple more than fight. Just started back into training after being sidelined with post concussion syndrom for 6 months. Will try to have my record to 3-1 by the end of summer.
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Oh...I get it. By simply declaring yourself right, you somehow have stats to the contrary?
I seem to not remember any evidence being submitted to back up your claims....feel free to correct me.
As for using the calculator...may want to take your own advices and go back to the GNC thread....try and calculate how many shows their have been, heres a hint: between 1 and 3
So they had 2 shows and the prize money dropped from 100k for first place to 15k by the second show. WTF?
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4-0 as an amature and 1-1 as a pro, still not a great record but I never claimed to be anything special. I wrestle and submission grapple more than fight. Just started back into training after being sidelined with post concussion syndrom for 6 months. Will try to have my record to 3-1 by the end of summer.
1-1?? How come that is not registered on Sherdog's database?
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An experienced head custodian at a big building can make some decent $$, seriously.
Ok Mussolini, you seem like a smart young man and asked some legit questions .
Obviously, you are just trying to give Bob Chick a hard time for some reason.
Granted, lots of wacky crap goes on behind the scenes in BB.
I know that as do many here at get big. Many of us simply accept the stupid crap and tend to ignore it as we enjoy the overall atmosphere of BB and contests/expos.
You seem into MMA and that is fine. If you prefer that perhaps you should focus on that and avoid causing tension here on the get big bodybuiding forum.
Bob has been in this game a long time and dealt with a lot worse crap than what you have slung. I am not trying to be negative about you, just trying to move things in a positive direction. I just don't see the purpose is?
Im not making fun of janitors man its an inside joke for fans of the show "the Trailer Park Boys". I don't know if its even on TV in the USA but its pretty popular here in Canada.
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1-1?? How come that is not registered on Sherdog's database?
Many sites don't count fights on Indian Reserves on your pro record . In Ontario, where I'm from, MMA is still illegal except on an Indian reserve so sometimes instead of traveling to Quebec or Ohio (the closest places where MMA is legal) we fight there. Many fighters won't fight there at all because it is very grimey and the promoters are shady. I won't fight there again unless it is my only option. I took a fight there last minute as a favor to one of my coaches. Not all events on all reserves are bad, I don't want to group them all in the same category but generally they are not well organized and promoters don't pay what they promised. Some are OK though, Dan "The Beast" Severn held an event in Ontario on an Indian reserve that went well and everyone got paid.
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Im not making fun of janitors man its an inside joke for fans of the show "the Trailer Park Boys". I don't know if its even on TV in the USA but its pretty popular here in Canada.
You seem like a smart young guy, so why all the fuss over Bob Chick? He is one of the few guys ever to make a decent,legit living from being a BB personality. Many resort to all the bad crap we know exists.
At least give Bob credit for doing what he does and leave it at that.
Soooo, what are you studying in school?
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Thats true, it all boils down to out most primal instincts, women are lower on the food chain than men because they know any men could beat them to a pulp in a fight, America is top of the food chain because they could blow any country to bits.Likewise Chick knows he is lower than Mussolini because if it came down to our most primal instinct, us fighting to survive in say a Nuclear holocaust, and Chick came up against a trained fighter in Mussolini, he knows his life would be ended.
Wow with that "logic" I guess a guy like Floyd Mayweather would feel a lot superior to Pres Obama or former Pres Bush or Clinton becuase he could whip 'em in a fight....NOT!
It is all about money, fame, status and power in the modern world.
Phyiscs nerds developed the atmpic bomb 65 yrs ago and THAT device determines who has the power.
FYI, once a woman gains $$$ power, it is a different deal in terms of status.
Trust me when I say any famous, powerful woman like Hillary Clinton, Oprah or even Sara Palin isn't going to full inferior to the avg Joe guy
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You seem like a smart young guy, so why all the fuss over Bob Chick? He is one of the few guys ever to make a decent,legit living from being a BB personality. Many resort to all the bad crap we know exists.
At least give Bob credit for doing what he does and leave it at that.
Soooo, what are you studying in school?
In the show "the Trailer Park Boys" the main character Ricky pretends he is going to college, but it turns out he was just a janitor and he was eventually found out and everyone in the trailer park who was so proud of him for making it to college was crushed.
Im a History major, love the subject of WW2. My Grandpa was a facist Italian and fought for the Duce in the second world war.
Truth is I don't hate or even dislike Bob. I have given him props for landing sponsorship deals over guys who are still competing and earning a living supporting a family through his passion of bodybuilding. I was just skeptical that he signed a huge deal and guessed it was closer to 30k over 2 years than 250k per year. Bob took offense to somthing that wasn't intended to offend him then started hurling insults at me.
Good luck to you Howard in your upcoming contest.
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Wow with that "logic" I guess a guy like Floyd Mayweather would feel a lot superior to Pres Obama or former Pres Bush or Clinton becuase he could whip 'em in a fight....NOT!
It is all about money, fame, status and power in the modern world.
Phyiscs nerds developed the atmpic bomb 65 yrs ago and THAT device determines who has the power.
FYI, once a woman gains $$$ power, it is a different deal in terms of status.
Trust me when I say any famous, powerful woman like Hillary Clinton, Oprah or even Sara Palin isn't going to full inferior to the avg Joe guy
You are both correct IMO to an extent. Db247 is coming from the point that most/many bodybuilders do so because they feel inferior and they value a mans worth by his physical presence or stature. Your correct in that in the civilized world most people couldn't care less about how big/strong/tough you are, but to many bodybuilders physical appearance and stature ranks very highly on the list of priorities.
As me Chick and I, I wouldn't walk up to him and punch him or start a fight, I am civilized and don't fight outside of a controlled environment unless I have no choice. Bob implied that I would "tuck tail and run" if I saw him and called me a coward which is a low blow IMO. So I would simply walk up to him and introduce myself and ask him what BSN supplments he would recomend I take to cut weight.
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Thanks , after 15 yrs of being fat and happy I will need all the good will I can muster hehe.
I hear ya with regards to being skeptical about who makes what $$ in BB related supplement contracts.
I do know that some of those companies make a decent 7 figure anual profit margin.
My thing is why press Bob on his actual contract? All that matters is the guy does ok for himself unlike most ex pros.
Look at it like this Mussolini. I know that all pros use plenty of "illegal drugs" to build their physiques.
I don't like that aspect of the sport along with the g4pay crap, etc.
BUT, out of respect for their status in BODYBUILDING I would not bug or embarrass any of them about their personal steroid use, WHEN exchanging posts with them on a board or in person at an expo, etc.
Just my 2 cents here but it would be far better to SUGGEST as a fan you doubt the amounts some bodybuilders claim they get for supplement contracts and leave it at that. Only Bob and BSN know the actual truth and it is their business.
Bob is one of the few pros that actually interacts with most fans on the boards, so he should be that last guy anyone cracks on.
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Thanks , after 15 yrs of being fat and happy I will need all the good will I can muster hehe.
I hear ya with regards to being skeptical about who makes what $$ in BB related supplement contracts.
I do know that some of those companies make a decent 7 figure anual profit margin.
My thing is why press Bob on his actual contract? All that matters is the guy does ok for himself unlike most ex pros.
Look at it like this Mussolini. I know that all pros use plenty of "illegal drugs" to build their physiques.
I don't like that aspect of the sport along with the g4pay crap, etc.
BUT, out of respect for their status in BODYBUILDING I would not bug or embarrass any of them about their personal steroid use, WHEN exchanging posts with them on a board or in person at an expo, etc.
Just my 2 cents here but it would be far better to SUGGEST as a fan you doubt the amounts some bodybuilders claim they get for supplement contracts and leave it at that. Only Bob and BSN know the actual truth and it is their business.
Bob is one of the few pros that actually interacts with most fans on the boards, so he should be that last guy anyone cracks on.
I suppose you're right Howard, I was just having a little fun and got a little carried away, took it too far. I admited before and still do that it was a little pathetic to be arguing how we were.
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You are both correct IMO to an extent. Db247 is coming from the point that most/many bodybuilders do so because they feel inferior and they value a mans worth by his physical presence or stature. Your correct in that in the civilized world most people couldn't care less about how big/strong/tough you are, but to many bodybuilders physical appearance and stature ranks very highly on the list of priorities.
As me Chick and I, I wouldn't walk up to him and punch him or start a fight, I am civilized and don't fight outside of a controlled environment unless I have no choice. Bob implied that I would "tuck tail and run" if I saw him and called me a coward which is a low blow IMO. So I would simply walk up to him and introduce myself and ask him what BSN supplments he would recomend I take to cut weight.
I am sure you know he was just cracking on you ,same as you did with him. nothing more than typical internet bravado and banter.
I'll bet if he saw you were sincere he would be glad to discuss contracts and the basics of how they work in the supplement industry.
I have talked with Bob one on one about the pros and cons of steroids and he was candid and pretty open about the topic.
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I am sure you know he was just cracking on you ,same as you did with him. nothing more than typical internet bravado and banter.
I'll bet if he saw you were sincere he would be glad to discuss contracts and the basics of how they work in the supplement industry.
I have talked with Bob one on one about the pros and cons of steroids and he was candid and pretty open about the topic.
Howard are you a natural competitor?
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This is my 2 cents (maybe 3). I regards to Chics sponsorship. First, it is no ones business but his. It doesn't affect anyone but him and his family. Like I said before anyone who have had sponsors are the ONLY ones who can relate. Having a sponsor or sponsors, is in most instances the easiest money you can make. You are now getting paid for something you usually do or use for free. so why not get paid for it. Anyone who thinks otherwise is either stupid or just pretending and jealous. BSN I am sure pays all their sponsored athletes pretty damm good. How can anyone rag on Chic for signing with them or any other negative is beyond me. Whether it is $15,000 a year or $100,000 a year it is extra money and not counting the other perks. And you have to give Chic major props because he doesn't even compete anymore and he is getting sponsorships from companies who would rather use him than 99.999999% of any other available pro BB out there. What that makes Chic look like is a genius because he has marketed himself to a major company in a manner that they had several corporate meetings about and decided to sign him. All I know is that is an awesome accomplishment. And what it says is how stupid most other pros are for not learning to market themselves. Okay gotta go to lunch
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What that makes Chic look like is a genius because he has marketed himself to a major company in a manner that they had several corporate meetings about and decided to sign him.
wonder whether the suits at these corporate meetings contemplated the image of Bob wearing sleeveless BSN shirts at various expos with his savage forearms and slob-like upper arms? :-\
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I suppose you're right Howard, I was just having a little fun and got a little carried away, took it too far. I admited before and still do that it was a little pathetic to be arguing how we were.
Just the nature of internet forums, we have all been guilty of it. ;)
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Howard are you a natural competitor?
BOTH!
I did my first show at 19 in 1978, the AAU Eastern Seaboard, even had Chris Dickerson give me my first trophy at that show.
I used in small amounts , one drug at a time from '83- '87 , then stopped.
I competed drug free from '88- '95 in mostly UNtested NPC shows.
I have been on prescribed Androgel for low testosterone for the last few yrs which is common for guys my age ( now 51).
I am going to get back on stage this fall and do my best to diet for the first time in years....yikes. :-[
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This is my 2 cents (maybe 3). I regards to Chics sponsorship. First, it is no ones business but his. It doesn't affect anyone but him and his family. Like I said before anyone who have had sponsors are the ONLY ones who can relate. Having a sponsor or sponsors, is in most instances the easiest money you can make. You are now getting paid for something you usually do or use for free. so why not get paid for it. Anyone who thinks otherwise is either stupid or just pretending and jealous. BSN I am sure pays all their sponsored athletes pretty damm good. How can anyone rag on Chic for signing with them or any other negative is beyond me. Whether it is $15,000 a year or $100,000 a year it is extra money and not counting the other perks. And you have to give Chic major props because he doesn't even compete anymore and he is getting sponsorships from companies who would rather use him than 99.999999% of any other available pro BB out there. What that makes Chic look like is a genius because he has marketed himself to a major company in a manner that they had several corporate meetings about and decided to sign him. All I know is that is an awesome accomplishment. And what it says is how stupid most other pros are for not learning to market themselves. Okay gotta go to lunch
Thanks for the props brotherman!
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BOTH!
I did my first show at 19 in 1978, the AAU Eastern Seaboard, even had Chris Dickerson give me my first trophy at that show.
I used in small amounts , one drug at a time from '83- '87 , then stopped.
I competed drug free from '88- '95 in mostly UNtested NPC shows.
I have been on prescribed Androgel for low testosterone for the last few yrs which is common for guys my age ( now 51).
I am going to get back on stage this fall and do my best to diet for the first time in years....yikes. :-[
Rock on Howie!
Let me know if you need any advices...
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oh good god
bob plz just stop posting in this thread before you do more damage to bsn
youre doing an amazming thing though...after only being with bsn for less than...what...a month?...youre completely destroying BSNs good name and rep that took years and years to accomplish
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Thanks for the props brotherman!
You deserve them for this. I don't care about the IFBB shit that much anymore. But, man I milked what I did for as long as I could and if I could still do it I would. I am lucky that some still remember and give me stuff just to help me. I have had a few say once I get down in weight and back to shape they would look at me just on the inspirational side of it and consider sponsorship. So the road is harder this time. But every guy who says anything bad about you being sponsored by BSN, BB.com or anyone else is just jealous.
I think Mussolini is a good guy. He obviously at least has an insight on actual competition and competing in front of a crowd no matter how big or small. Posing on stage in trunks talks a ton of balls like what you did. I remember Joe Gold encouraging me to compete in BB and powerlifting at the same time. I told him unless I can wear OP shorts on stage then forget it. No way could I ever do that. And at one time I actually felt good enough that I hardy wore anything but shorts. No shirt ever. But I just can't do that. You have to be very confident to be a bodybuilder (or fucked up in the head like Goodrum). And to fight in front of people and purposely go out and get your face beat in and shit like that takes even more balls. I chose a sport that takes balls but at least if you get beat or embarrassed it only takes a few seconds. Plus, armwrestling is known as a sport where anyone can beat anyone. So humiliation is all part of it and you know that beforehand.
All the others on here who have nothing better to do than rag on people who have actually competed in something for a living and made money doing it, well its too bad they will more than likely never have the drive, skill or determination to achieve. I know one thing I am jealous as hell you have sponsor like that. Hopefully if things go right again maybe I will.
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oh good god
bob plz just stop posting in this thread before you do more damage to bsn
youre doing an amazming thing though...after only being with bsn for less than...what...a month?...youre completely destroying BSNs good name and rep that took years and years to accomplish
Bob never answers Gene's questions
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oh good god
bob plz just stop posting in this thread before you do more damage to bsn
youre doing an amazming thing though...after only being with bsn for less than...what...a month?...youre completely destroying BSNs good name and rep that took years and years to accomplish
lol
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You deserve them for this. I don't care about the IFBB shit that much anymore. But, man I milked what I did for as long as I could and if I could still do it I would. I am lucky that some still remember and give me stuff just to help me. I have had a few say once I get down in weight and back to shape they would look at me just on the inspirational side of it and consider sponsorship. So the road is harder this time. But every guy who says anything bad about you being sponsored by BSN, BB.com or anyone else is just jealous.
I think Mussolini is a good guy. He obviously at least has an insight on actual competition and competing in front of a crowd no matter how big or small. Posing on stage in trunks talks a ton of balls like what you did. I remember Joe Gold encouraging me to compete in BB and powerlifting at the same time. I told him unless I can wear OP shorts on stage then forget it. No way could I ever do that. And at one time I actually felt good enough that I hardy wore anything but shorts. No shirt ever. But I just can't do that. You have to be very confident to be a bodybuilder (or fucked up in the head like Goodrum). And to fight in front of people and purposely go out and get your face beat in and shit like that takes even more balls. I chose a sport that takes balls but at least if you get beat or embarrassed it only takes a few seconds. Plus, armwrestling is known as a sport where anyone can beat anyone. So humiliation is all part of it and you know that beforehand.
All the others on here who have nothing better to do than rag on people who have actually competed in something for a living and made money doing it, well its too bad they will more than likely never have the drive, skill or determination to achieve. I know one thing I am jealous as hell you have sponsor like that. Hopefully if things go right again maybe I will.
Thanks Keith. Everything you said is true. I admit I took it too far with Chick and it really is none of mine or anyones business how much his salary is.
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My sources have confirmed to me that the Signing is none other than King Kamali. This is coming to me from my guys straight at the top.
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My sources have confirmed to me that the Signing is none other than King Kamali. This is coming to me from my guys straight at the top.
Speaking of King Kamali, Chick are you two still close?
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Speaking of King Kamali, Chick are you two still close?
Not really...everyone is busy with family, etc..but KIng isnt really involved in the BB scene these days
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Not really...everyone is busy with family, etc..but KIng isnt really involved in the BB scene these days
what's he up to ? did he invest any of the 4 million he got from Puma ?
I'm thinking he could live off investing that
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Already "Mussolini" pussying out of it saying he took it too far ::)
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My sources have confirmed to me that the Signing is none other than King Kamali. This is coming to me from my guys straight at the top.
hahaha you just ruined your crediability
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Already "Mussolini" pussying out of it saying he took it too far ::)
Yah, what kind of a pansi admits that arguing on the internet for three days is stupid. Real tough guys would keep at it for weeks and weeks.
Like I have always said If I see Chick at a BSn event or IFBB event in Toronto I will introduce myself and ask what supplments he would recommend for weight cutting. I'm sure a legit "tough guy" such as yourself would just walk right up to someone and throw a haymaker if they insulted you in the slightest on the internet.
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Rock on Howie!
Let me know if you need any advices...
Thanks Bob, but I may want to pass on any Arnold like "advice-s" hehehe.
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Yah, what kind of a pansi admits that arguing on the internet for three days is stupid. Real tough guys would keep at it for weeks and weeks.
Like I have always said If I see Chick at a BSn event or IFBB event in Toronto I will introduce myself and ask what supplments he would recommend for weight cutting. I'm sure a legit "tough guy" such as yourself would just walk right up to someone and throw a haymaker if they insulted you in the slightest on the internet.
lol@haymaker
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Yah, what kind of a pansi admits that arguing on the internet for three days is stupid. Real tough guys would keep at it for weeks and weeks.
Like I have always said If I see Chick at a BSn event or IFBB event in Toronto I will introduce myself and ask what supplments he would recommend for weight cutting. I'm sure a legit "tough guy" such as yourself would just walk right up to someone and throw a haymaker if they insulted you in the slightest on the internet.
I bet you are saying "wtf" was i thinking when you were in the midst of this forum pissing contest with Bob.
It is all too easy to get caught up in some lame internet fight for some silly reasons. LOL
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I bet you are saying "wtf" was i thinking when you were in the midst of this forum pissing contest with Bob.
It is all too easy to get caught up in some lame internet fight for some silly reasons. LOL
It wasn't silly Howard. Bob threw out needless insults when Muss made a rather astute point. Don't you get tired swining on Bob's nuts all day?
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It wasn't silly Howard. Bob threw out needless insults when Muss made a rather astute point. Don't you get tired swining on Bob's nuts all day?
If you read all the posts ( and got bored hehe) you would have seen that I was first critical of Bob for getting into it so deeply with Mussolini ( a fan).
In my opinion, BOTH went overboard and didn't stick with the real issue.
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First of all, whether you like Bob or not, the man is doing quite well, and will continue. In terms of the nutrirtion and supplement industry, Bob is a force, and always takes the time to talk to people.
But some of you are clearly ignorant, and that is ok too, time and education will help (but only some of you).
Bob is doing quite well with his contract at BSN, and they are happy too. Bodybuilding.com is doing well too with all that occured.
Some of you are dismayed at Bob's success. Oh well.
I can tell you that many pro bodybuilders are also dismayed that Bob can continue to be successful out there. Kodus to Bob.
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First of all, whether you like Bob or not, the man is doing quite well, and will continue. In terms of the nutrirtion and supplement industry, Bob is a force, and always takes the time to talk to people.
But some of you are clearly ignorant, and that is ok too, time and education will help (but only some of you).
Bob is doing quite well with his contract at BSN, and they are happy too. Bodybuilding.com is doing well too with all that occured.
Some of you are dismayed at Bob's success. Oh well.
I can tell you that many pro bodybuilders are also dismayed that Bob can continue to be successful out there. Kodus to Bob.
Ok "Ron" ::)
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I can tell you that many pro bodybuilders are also dismayed that Bob can continue to be successful out there.
that's not a healthy dynamic to have between many pro bodybuilders and their "athlete's rep."
is Bob using the position primarily to advance his own interests?
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First of all, whether you like Bob or not, the man is doing quite well, and will continue. In terms of the nutrirtion and supplement industry, Bob is a force, and always takes the time to talk to people.
But some of you are clearly ignorant, and that is ok too, time and education will help (but only some of you).
Bob is doing quite well with his contract at BSN, and they are happy too. Bodybuilding.com is doing well too with all that occured.
Some of you are dismayed at Bob's success. Oh well.
I can tell you that many pro bodybuilders are also dismayed that Bob can continue to be successful out there. Kodus to Bob.
Kudos
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that's not a healthy dynamic to have between many pro bodybuilders and their "athlete's rep."
I hope it serves as an example to them...there are many different aspects of being a pro BB, only ONE which is competing. By using all your skills as a spokesman, etc...hopefully you can create your own opportunities and stay valuable to a company.
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I hope it serves as an example to them...there are many different aspects of being a pro BB, only ONE which is competing. By using all your skills as a spokesman, etc...hopefully you can create your own opportunities and stay valuable to a company.
Haha..I was against Chick earlier in the thread, but he's topped it off quite nicely with this post. The thread should now be closed.
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I hope it serves as an example to them...there are many different aspects of being a pro BB, only ONE which is competing. By using all your skills as a spokesman, etc...hopefully you can create your own opportunities and stay valuable to a company.
As a former US marine you are told to "lead by example". You do a good job of that Bob!
Ok bob, I know I should leave it at that, but I want to make one more obnoxious pt (about pro BB's ).
Obviously, most on this board don't think there is anything wrong with steroid use.
I hear plenty of hardcore BB's claim that their steroid use is a personal decision.
Hmmm, if they are NOT doing anything wrong, how come they can't openly admit their drug use?
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As a former US marine you are told to "lead by example". You do a good job of that Bob!
Ok bob, I know I should leave it at that, but I want to make one more obnoxious pt (about pro BB's ).
Obviously, most on this board don't think there is anything wrong with steroid use.
I hear plenty of hardcore BB's claim that their steroid use is a personal decision.
Hmmm, if they are NOT doing anything wrong, how come they can't openly admit their drug use?
Doing something wrong legally is a lot different than doing something wrong morally (according to some)...no different than someone not admitting to engaging in prostitution, or smoking pot....two things which are victimless crimes (according to the law)...
Combine that with the fact that BBers take a burn to having every bit of their accomplishments based on the one simple act of using PED, and we have our answer...
Unfortunately, it's what the ignorant like to use to justify their own lack of being...in ALL phases of life. Pick the success story...they have a reason the other person did it, and they didnt...I.E- it was the coaches son, he brown nosed the manager, they had a free ride/ born into money, etc etc..
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Doing something wrong legally is a lot different than doing something wrong morally (according to some)...no different than someone not admitting to engaging in prostitution, or smoking pot....two things which are victimless crimes (according to the law)...
Combine that with the fact that BBers take a burn to having every bit of their accomplishments based on the one simple act of using PED, and we have our answer...
Unfortunately, it's what the ignorant like to use to justify their own lack of being...in ALL phases of life. Pick the success story...they have a reason the other person did it, and they didnt...I.E- it was the coaches son, he brown nosed the manager, they had a free ride/ born into money, etc etc..
Bob, what played a bigger role in you sporting the physique that you did during your competitive years - steroids & other drugs OR supplements similar to what BSN offers?
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Bob, what played a bigger role in you sporting the physique that you did during your competitive years - steroids & other drugs OR supplements similar to what BSN offers?
20 years of training and dieting along with 2 hours/ day of cardio...
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hey Bob I dont guess you can get me a discount on Higher Power Protein 5lb Vanilla can you?
I've asked you before
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20 years of training and dieting along with 2 hours/ day of cardio...
Bob, do you agree that "20 years of training and dieting along with 2 hours/day of cardio" plus steroids & other drugs
gave you a much better physique than what you would have achieved with
"20 years of training and dieting along with 2 hours/day of cardio" plus supplements similar to what BSN offers?
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Bob, do you agree that "20 years of training and dieting along with 2 hours/day of cardio" plus steroids & other drugs
gave you a much better physique than what you would have achieved with
"20 years of training and dieting along with 2 hours/day of cardio" plus supplements similar to what BSN offers?
what do u think?
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Bob, do you agree that "20 years of training and dieting along with 2 hours/day of cardio" plus steroids & other drugs
gave you a much better physique than what you would have achieved with
"20 years of training and dieting along with 2 hours/day of cardio" plus supplements similar to what BSN offers?
You're talking apples and oranges...whats your point?
Thay all have their place
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Bob is a chameleon. One minute he is with one supplement company and then this month he is representing another. What a load of crap. Those supplements aren't necessary for bodybuilding and Bob should shake his head in shame. What a disgraceful way to make a living....helping to dupe young guys out of their money for unnecessary supplements.
Bob says whatever he needs to say to make a living. Where is his integrity? Well, you abandon that when you become a professional bodybuilder. You learn to follow orders and not cause any trouble. Heck, Bob helps enforce rules instead of helping the pros. No wonder they aren't happy that he makes more money than most of them. He represents them then comments on the quality of their physiques on the broadcasts. I mean.....only in bodybuilding could anyone do this.
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Bob is a chameleon. One minute he is with one supplement company and then this month he is representing another. What a load of crap. Those supplements aren't necessary for bodybuilding and Bob should shake his head in shame. What a disgraceful way to make a living....helping to dupe young guys out of their money for unnecessary supplements.
Bob says whatever he needs to say to make a living. Where is his integrity? Well, you abandon that when you become a professional bodybuilder. You learn to follow orders and not cause any trouble. Heck, Bob helps enforce rules instead of helping the pros. No wonder they aren't happy that he makes more money than most of them. He represents them then comments on the quality of their physiques on the broadcasts. I mean.....only in bodybuilding could anyone do this.
Yep...one minute (7 years with the same company) then on to the next...
Jesus Christ, Basile...cant you be accurate on just ONE thing??
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Bob you are a salesman and nothing more. We see guys like you in the camera and guitar businesses. Eventually guys end up doing the rounds of the various shops. Then they push whatever the store is selling. Integrity goes before a fall or something like that.
How about disclosing what really happened at Bodybuilding com? We all thought you were part of the company. How could they stand to lose someone as valuable as you to the opposition?
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Bob you are a salesman and nothing more. We see guys like you in the camera and guitar businesses. Eventually guys end up doing the rounds of the various shops. Then they push whatever the store is selling. Integrity goes before a fall or something like that.
How about disclosing what really happened at Bodybuilding com? We all thought you were part of the company. How could they stand to lose someone as valuable as you to the opposition?
It's not the opposition, fool....BB.com carries BSN products, as they are one of their two best selling companies...
Dont you get tired of being wrong all the time?
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You're talking apples and oranges...whats your point?
Thay all have their place
yes, it's apples and oranges pebbles.
one (the steroids & other drugs) were necessary for you to achieve the physique that you desired.
the other (supplements similar to what BSN offers) were (and are) unnecessary.
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yes, it's apples and oranges pebbles.
one (the steroids & other drugs) were necessary for you to achieve the physique that you desired.
the other (supplements similar to what BSN offers) were (and are) unnecessary.
10 years ago, many of the supplements out now, werent invented yet...so the supps I used were not as advanced, nor do I have any way of calculating how important/ unimportant they were...
Why do you care either way?
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So you got demoted, Bob? Please tell us what happened in the president's office. Must have been a big disappointment for you. Sounds like the shaft no matter what you say.
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So you got demoted, Bob? Please tell us what happened in the president's office. Must have been a big disappointment for you. Sounds like the shaft no matter what you say.
What the hell are you talking about you senile old bastard?
It's a whole different company...I'm a spokesman...for a DIFFERENT company.
ImBasile...
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10 years ago, many of the supplements out now, werent invented yet...so the supps I used were not as advanced, nor do I have any way of calculating how important/ unimportant they were...
what revolutionary effective supplements are available now that weren't available 10 years ago?
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Bob did you do 2 hours of cardio a day year round or only for the 3 months leading up to a contest? What were your preffered methods of cardio?
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what revolutionary effective supplements are available now that weren't available 10 years ago?
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Bob did you do 2 hours of cardio a day year round or only for the 3 months leading up to a contest?
Noooo...only for the 12 week prep. we overkilled everything back in the day...2 one hour sessions STARTING at the 12 week point...amazing we stepped on stage with any muscle at all...emphasis back then was on training, not recovery
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It's a whole different company...I'm a spokesman...for a DIFFERENT company.
Sometimes you get the elevator and sometimes the shaft. You would never know from the way you write about it.
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Bob is a chameleon. One minute he is with one supplement company and then this month he is representing another. What a load of crap. Those supplements aren't necessary for bodybuilding and Bob should shake his head in shame. What a disgraceful way to make a living....helping to dupe young guys out of their money for unnecessary supplements.
Bob says whatever he needs to say to make a living. Where is his integrity? Well, you abandon that when you become a professional bodybuilder. You learn to follow orders and not cause any trouble. Heck, Bob helps enforce rules instead of helping the pros. No wonder they aren't happy that he makes more money than most of them. He represents them then comments on the quality of their physiques on the broadcasts. I mean.....only in bodybuilding could anyone do this.
Vince gotta disagree with you. Tell me and the others right now that if a supplement company offered to sponsor you cause you are former Mr. Canada and live the bodybuilding lifestyle and wanted to pay you say $40,000 a year plus travel to at least 5 shows around the world all expenses paid and free supps you would take it. If you say anything but YES, you are lying big time. If a supplement company or any company offered to pay you to train and do what you do everyday way back in the 70's would you have taken it. If you say anything but YES you are lying. For some reason I am taking Bob's side lately but it is because I can't believe how ignorant and stupid some people can be. of all people you at least competed and have a title. You should at least realize and know that having one sponsor or many sponsors only makes life easier. And I don't know what kind of products you buy or use in your life but if you think the people who do the commercials and ads actually use the products they are endorsing then honestly you should move in with Goodrum. I love it when people are questioning Bob's sponsorship. When a company waves money (and alot of it) in your face you DO NOT say no unless you can afford it. .00009% of people in the world are so proper and perfect that they would not endorse something unless they actually use it and believe in it. And I guarantee you NOT one of those are on Getbig. Shit Vince you might hate Bob and whatever but you got to give him props for being able to get sponsors even when he is not competing anymore. Fuck! I think that is awesome.
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I endorsed the Neil Lewis Arm Trainer in 1970 and got one for free for my troubles. I left it with a mate when I emigrated to Australia. Big Jim Forsythe now has that unit.
I wouldn't endorse a supplement company with one exception. If someone made a weight gain product that tasted good and worked. The last good one I tried was Protein 101 by Weider before the authorities took it off the market here in Australia for label misinformation. Young guys need more calories, not protein, to build muscle.
Bob knows a lot of insiders in bodybuilding. He helps them and they help him. Do you honestly think a stooge would do that pro rep job for free? Hell, no, there has to be some benefit. The pro league is a closed shop of yes men who get rewarded for their loyalty and work.
He was rewarded when he stole the title from Rusty Jeffers. You used to post about this so don't change your mind now.
No matter what I think about the matter I have absolutely no interest in poofters.
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I endorsed the Neil Lewis Arm Trainer in 1970 and got one for free for my troubles. I left it with a mate when I emigrated to Australia. Big Jim Forsythe now has that unit.
I wouldn't endorse a supplement company with one exception. If someone made a weight gain product that tasted good and worked. The last good one I tried was Protein 101 by Weider before the authorities took it off the market here in Australia for label misinformation. Young guys need more calories, not protein, to build muscle.
Bob knows a lot of insiders in bodybuilding. He helps them and they help him. Do you honestly think a stooge would do that pro rep job for free? Hell, no, there has to be some benefit. The pro league is a closed shop of yes men who get rewarded for their loyalty and work.
He was rewarded when he stole the title from Rusty Jeffers. You used to post about this so don't change your mind now.
No matter what I think about the matter I have absolutely no interest in poofters.
I still think Rusty looked better. I think he looked awesome. But, I don't dwell on it cause what for it isn't going to change a thing. Anyway, I have always supported what you have done. Everyone rags you but I have always been there cause I know they are either doing it just to fuck with you or they are jealous.
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Noooo...only for the 12 week prep. we overkilled everything back in the day...2 one hour sessions STARTING at the 12 week point...amazing we stepped on stage with any muscle at all...emphasis back then was on training, not recovery
Yes, 2 1 hour sessions of 3mph on the treadmill is really killer ::)
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I endorsed the Neil Lewis Arm Trainer in 1970 and got one for free for my troubles. I left it with a mate when I emigrated to Australia. Big Jim Forsythe now has that unit.
I wouldn't endorse a supplement company with one exception. If someone made a weight gain product that tasted good and worked. The last good one I tried was Protein 101 by Weider before the authorities took it off the market here in Australia for label misinformation. Young guys need more calories, not protein, to build muscle.
Bob knows a lot of insiders in bodybuilding. He helps them and they help him. Do you honestly think a stooge would do that pro rep job for free? Hell, no, there has to be some benefit. The pro league is a closed shop of yes men who get rewarded for their loyalty and work.
He was rewarded when he stole the title from Rusty Jeffers. You used to post about this so don't change your mind now.
No matter what I think about the matter I have absolutely no interest in poofters.
C'mon Vince you are a better man that that, c'mon trying to crack on Bob over winning his masters pro title is pretty low .As a former title winner you of all folks should know better.
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Vince gotta disagree with you. Tell me and the others right now that if a supplement company offered to sponsor you cause you are former Mr. Canada and live the bodybuilding lifestyle and wanted to pay you say $40,000 a year plus travel to at least 5 shows around the world all expenses paid and free supps you would take it. If you say anything but YES, you are lying big time. If a supplement company or any company offered to pay you to train and do what you do everyday way back in the 70's would you have taken it. If you say anything but YES you are lying. For some reason I am taking Bob's side lately but it is because I can't believe how ignorant and stupid some people can be. of all people you at least competed and have a title. You should at least realize and know that having one sponsor or many sponsors only makes life easier. And I don't know what kind of products you buy or use in your life but if you think the people who do the commercials and ads actually use the products they are endorsing then honestly you should move in with Goodrum. I love it when people are questioning Bob's sponsorship. When a company waves money (and alot of it) in your face you DO NOT say no unless you can afford it. .00009% of people in the world are so proper and perfect that they would not endorse something unless they actually use it and believe in it. And I guarantee you NOT one of those are on Getbig. Shit Vince you might hate Bob and whatever but you got to give him props for being able to get sponsors even when he is not competing anymore. Fuck! I think that is awesome.
Some people have morals and standards. Personally, I would not have my name and likeness attached to a product that I KNEW was ineffective and did not live up to label claims. And this applies to just about EVERY supplement on the market with the exception of some protein powders. So, Keith, you are saying that if someone said here's 40 grand, I want you to sell this product that we say will make you a champion arm wrassler (and you know it's bunk) you are saying you would take the money?
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Yes, 2 1 hour sessions of 3mph on the treadmill is really killer ::)
Spoken by someone who's never seen the inside of a gym...
It doesnt have to be "killer"...it's tedious an draining, while on a extremely low carb diet...making yourself sound really intelligent
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what revolutionary effective supplements are available now that weren't available 10 years ago?
well Bob? i lobbed you a softball question.
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well Bob? i lobbed you a softball question.
chicky is too busy texting. . .lmao
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10 years ago, many of the supplements out now, werent invented yet...so the supps I used were not as advanced, nor do I have any way of calculating how important/ unimportant they were...
Why do you care either way?
Dont believe you answered mine...
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Dont believe you answered mine...
i'm open to buying supplements from BSN or another company if a knowledgeable representative can give me a credible explanation how using their products would further my bodybuilding goals (better than or more than simply consuming nutritious food & coffee etc. already does.)
i'm a cautious consumer but i'll spend my money on top notch quality products.
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i'm open to buying supplements from BSN or another company if a knowledgeable representative can give me a credible explanation how using their products would further my bodybuilding goals (better than or more than simply consuming nutritious food & coffee etc. already does.)
i'm a cautious consumer but i'll spend my money on top notch quality products.
Great...I'll get back to you when I have full knowledge of the entire line they carry.
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Spoken by someone who's never seen the inside of a gym...
It doesnt have to be "killer"...it's tedious an draining, while on a extremely low carb diet...making yourself sound really intelligent
Lol, no it isnt, try running a marathon distance with little to eat.Dont try and tell me walking 3mph for 1 hour is killer when your jacked up on stims.
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Lol, no it isnt, try running a marathon distance with little to eat.Dont try and tell me walking 3mph for 1 hour is killer when your jacked up on stims.
look, chicky has to make it sound difficult...if he doesn't then he's just all drugs and nothing special...and according to Tom Princess we all know that's not true
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Some people have morals and standards. Personally, I would not have my name and likeness attached to a product that I KNEW was ineffective and did not live up to label claims. And this applies to just about EVERY supplement on the market with the exception of some protein powders. So, Keith, you are saying that if someone said here's 40 grand, I want you to sell this product that we say will make you a champion arm wrassler (and you know it's bunk) you are saying you would take the money?
the public is reality should see for themselves if something works. Perfect example are all those stupid hydroxycut ads where they have a chubby girl in one photo and then smaller in the next. Or even Playboy. Every photo is photshopped to look better. Some people believe it and some know better. If a company offers me $40,000 to promote their product 100% yes I would do it. Just like 99% of every person out there would. My Gillette commercial was made to look like it shaved so close that we loved it so much we shaved our heads. hopefully people are not going to see that commercial and then love it so much go out and shave their heads. Having morals and standards have NOTHING to do with it when it comes to your livelihood and financial security. Is someone else going to pay you $40,000 to promote something you actually use and believe in. if you wait for that to happen you will NOT be in that business long. unless you are someone very rich and powerful and can afford to say no to money of that amount then you are really dumb not to take it. Now if there was anything that blantantly had anything negative to do with children or the elderly I would not do it. Simply because that IS something I am strong about and even more important it is something that can serious effect your future in other endeavors.
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Lol, no it isnt, try running a marathon distance with little to eat.Dont try and tell me walking 3mph for 1 hour is killer when your jacked up on stims.
Ok, I can have done a full marathon back years ago in 4 hrs and 11 min. I have also done a boatload of bodybuilding meets.
No question that the last hr of the marathon was the worst exercise based fatigue I ever had to endure.
Bodybuilding prep is more gradual and constant. In terms of fatigue, running a marathon is like getting kicked in the face while contest prep is a nagging tooth ache that lasts for a few weeks.
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the public is reality should see for themselves if something works. Perfect example are all those stupid hydroxycut ads where they have a chubby girl in one photo and then smaller in the next. Or even Playboy. Every photo is photshopped to look better. Some people believe it and some know better. If a company offers me $40,000 to promote their product 100% yes I would do it. Just like 99% of every person out there would. My Gillette commercial was made to look like it shaved so close that we loved it so much we shaved our heads. hopefully people are not going to see that commercial and then love it so much go out and shave their heads. Having morals and standards have NOTHING to do with it when it comes to your livelihood and financial security. Is someone else going to pay you $40,000 to promote something you actually use and believe in. if you wait for that to happen you will NOT be in that business long. unless you are someone very rich and powerful and can afford to say no to money of that amount then you are really dumb not to take it. Now if there was anything that blantantly had anything negative to do with children or the elderly I would not do it. Simply because that IS something I am strong about and even more important it is something that can serious effect your future in other endeavors.
I sorta remember that Gillette commercial...I had to go through 7th grade bald because of you!!! ;D
With the internet available, you are an absolute moron to not research the cheapest grocery store let alone some concoction that is going into your body. I know a chick that falls for all of this crap monthly, and never diets or exercises, thus she never loses weight or improves.
People buying the supplements have a head first mentality with them, and that is to read the ads and buy whatever they think works the best despite the results. Most people buy this stuff in order to find that missing ingredient in their program. Unfortunately companies like MuscleTech make it out like they can expect steroid like results or at least expect it to make up for genetics, which is ridiculous.
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I sorta remember that Gillette commercial...I had to go through 7th grade bald because of you!!! ;D
With the internet available, you are an absolute moron to not research the cheapest grocery store let alone some concoction that is going into your body. I know a chick that falls for all of this crap monthly, and never diets or exercises, thus she never loses weight or improves.
People buying the supplements have a head first mentality with them, and that is to read the ads and buy whatever they think works the best despite the results. Most people buy this stuff in order to find that missing ingredient in their program. Unfortunately companies like MuscleTech make it out like they can expect steroid like results or at least expect it to make up for genetics, which is ridiculous.
Exactly, people are going to buy regardless. That is why the company is in business. It is up to the consumer to research and look into it. To turn down money especially in this economy or ever is just not a smart thing to do.
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the public is reality should see for themselves if something works. Perfect example are all those stupid hydroxycut ads where they have a chubby girl in one photo and then smaller in the next. Or even Playboy. Every photo is photshopped to look better. Some people believe it and some know better. If a company offers me $40,000 to promote their product 100% yes I would do it. Just like 99% of every person out there would. My Gillette commercial was made to look like it shaved so close that we loved it so much we shaved our heads. hopefully people are not going to see that commercial and then love it so much go out and shave their heads. Having morals and standards have NOTHING to do with it when it comes to your livelihood and financial security. Is someone else going to pay you $40,000 to promote something you actually use and believe in. if you wait for that to happen you will NOT be in that business long. unless you are someone very rich and powerful and can afford to say no to money of that amount then you are really dumb not to take it. Now if there was anything that blantantly had anything negative to do with children or the elderly I would not do it. Simply because that IS something I am strong about and even more important it is something that can serious effect your future in other endeavors.
Once you lose that you are nothing but a prostitute...no better than any crack whore that sells her ass on the street. You basically admit that you would LIE for money. Sad Keith. I thought you were a better man.
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I get what Keith is saying. Endorsements are part of the prizes available to champions and so on. We all know that when we see them doing ads. It is one thing to be all righteous on the net but quite another if someone paid good money for an endorsement. Instead of 40,000 what if you were offered 400,000 or even 4 million a year? Hell, even a saint might have to think twice about that one!
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I get what Keith is saying. Endorsements are part of the prizes available to champions and so on. We all know that when we see them doing ads. It is one thing to be all righteous on the net but quite another if someone paid good money for an endorsement. Instead of 40,000 what if you were offered 400,000 or even 4 million a year? Hell, even a saint might have to think twice about that one!
Ok Vince, here is my take based on what I know about marketing a product.
A well known personality brings attention to your product regardless of what you are selling.
By having a well known personality like Bob Chick on board, folks like me, will give their line of products a closer look.
If I like the product, I will continue to buy it and say some good things when asked, so it gets promoted word of mouth as well.
I know you don't like Bob, and he said some sarcastic stuff to you, etc. I honestly think if you reached out in a reasonable fair way, Bob would respond in kind.
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Bob Chick is a ^%#%# asshole. He says personal things about me that border on slander. I don't respect bastards like that and he doesn't deserve the success he has had.
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Once you lose that you are nothing but a prostitute...no better than any crack whore that sells her ass on the street. You basically admit that you would LIE for money. Sad Keith. I thought you were a better man.
I'm sorry I let you down but I am in good company cause 99%+ of every person who endorses products or does commercials are the same way. Sorry but that is a fact. That is what marketing is. Illusion. Make a product seem better than it is. Do what you can to make that product look appealing to as many people as possible. Look at nearly every commercial or ad. Very rarely do they ONLY put actual facts about the product. They need to sugar coat it they need to give it more life than it really has. If not then you won't be in business. Just a slight twist of a word can change something to make it look better. Goodrum tries this. He bullshits and twists facts just enough not to blatantly lie but just enough to make himself sound better than he is. The only problem with that is everyone already knows he is full of shit so it doesn't matter.
When you see a Muscletech ad that says it is 4000% stronger than anything else available do you believe it. I hope not. I also hope you don't think Redbull gives you wings.
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Bob Chick is a ^%#%# asshole. He says personal things about me that border on slander. I don't respect bastards like that and he doesn't deserve the success he has had.
Why so serious??
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He was rewarded when he stole the title from Rusty Jeffers.
Somebody nudge the turntable the record is stuck again.
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Bob Chick is a ^%#%# asshole. He says personal things about me that border on slander. I don't respect bastards like that and he doesn't deserve the success he has had.
X2, the personal attacks on you warrant a law suit against this charlatan
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Bob Chick is a ^%#%# asshole. He says personal things about me that border on slander. I don't respect bastards like that and he doesn't deserve the success he has had.
Sorry ImBasile...cant be slander when it's true.
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I'm with Chick on this one, Basile is one creepy dude.
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How can chick endorse products he knows are a bunch of bullshit. We all know professional bodybuilders, amateurs and any other sports athlete take steroids and hgh, the real shit, not this snake oil.
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Bob thinks it is funny to allude that I drive around in a white van. While that is innocent enough we all know what he is referring to and for that insinuation the guy is a goddamned %$#%#%# asshole. Wait until he becomes a grandfather and see how amusing quips like that are. Bob also likes to tell others I am stupid. Well, I doubt he can match my intellect as he is a rather pedestrian, uneducated bloke. That doesn't stop him from trying to put down anyone who challenges him. He has no integrity. That is a quality I live by. There is nothing wrong with being old. He should know that because he won a Masters title. Yet he thinks by calling someone old and senile it is a putdown. Well, Bob Chicerillo is a nasty, smug, almost thug dickhead, and I am saying that under my real name. I would say that to his face, make no mistake about that. His only comeback would be to insist it is just bullshit on Getbig. Well he can go and get stuffed, the asshole. He has no moral right to any rewards in bodybuilding as far as I am concerned. He cleverly stops just short of slandering me but the damage is done. Everyone knows that.
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Sorry ImBasile...cant be slander when it's true.
Well, what is true, Bob? Spell it out for the dim-witted here? There is no doubt at all that you are a nasty human being with very little integrity.
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Well, what is true, Bob? Spell it out for the dim-witted here? There is no doubt at all that you are a nasty human being with very little integrity.
That you enjoy the company of young lads?
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Bob thinks it is funny to allude that I drive around in a white van. While that is innocent enough we all know what he is referring to and for that insinuation the guy is a goddamned %$#%#%# asshole. Wait until he becomes a grandfather and see how amusing quips like that are. Bob also likes to tell others I am stupid. Well, I doubt he can match my intellect as he is a rather pedestrian, uneducated bloke. That doesn't stop him from trying to put down anyone who challenges him. He has no integrity. That is a quality I live by. There is nothing wrong with being old. He should know that because he won a Masters title. Yet he thinks by calling someone old and senile it is a putdown. Well, Bob Chicerillo is a nasty, smug, almost thug dickhead, and I am saying that under my real name. I would say that to his face, make no mistake about that. His only comeback would be to insist it is just bullshit on Getbig. Well he can go and get stuffed, the asshole. He has no moral right to any rewards in bodybuilding as far as I am concerned. He cleverly stops just short of slandering me but the damage is done. Everyone knows that.
what your really trying to convey here vince, and if i am wrong correct me....is that you harbor a great deal of anger and pathos; that you have never been fully recognized for what you consider to be your greatest achievement.
i.e.........Pissboys Gone Wild ::) ::) ::)
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Bob thinks it is funny to allude that I drive around in a white van. While that is innocent enough we all know what he is referring to and for that insinuation the guy is a goddamned %$#%#%# asshole. Wait until he becomes a grandfather and see how amusing quips like that are. Bob also likes to tell others I am stupid. Well, I doubt he can match my intellect as he is a rather pedestrian, uneducated bloke. That doesn't stop him from trying to put down anyone who challenges him. He has no integrity. That is a quality I live by. There is nothing wrong with being old. He should know that because he won a Masters title. Yet he thinks by calling someone old and senile it is a putdown. Well, Bob Chicerillo is a nasty, smug, almost thug dickhead, and I am saying that under my real name. I would say that to his face, make no mistake about that. His only comeback would be to insist it is just bullshit on Getbig. Well he can go and get stuffed, the asshole. He has no moral right to any rewards in bodybuilding as far as I am concerned. He cleverly stops just short of slandering me but the damage is done. Everyone knows that.
Vince most around here know Bob would lie and make stuff up about people to look like he is winning an argument, so the only people influence by what Bob is saying are people who are new to the board.
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I'm sorry I let you down but I am in good company cause 99%+ of every person who endorses products or does commercials are the same way. Sorry but that is a fact. That is what marketing is. Illusion. Make a product seem better than it is. Do what you can to make that product look appealing to as many people as possible. Look at nearly every commercial or ad. Very rarely do they ONLY put actual facts about the product. They need to sugar coat it they need to give it more life than it really has. If not then you won't be in business. Just a slight twist of a word can change something to make it look better. Goodrum tries this. He bullshits and twists facts just enough not to blatantly lie but just enough to make himself sound better than he is. The only problem with that is everyone already knows he is full of shit so it doesn't matter.
When you see a Muscletech ad that says it is 4000% stronger than anything else available do you believe it. I hope not. I also hope you don't think Redbull gives you wings.
Keith, I just want to let you know that I appreciate the free rent you give me inside your head.... ;D
Fact is that Bob simply has moved on with another company and that's pretty much it. He did his job at BB.com and decided to move on. Most people don't realize this but BSN's headquarters is in FL and if I'm not mistaken Chick lives in Florida so this job will be a lot closer to home which prob factored in with him deciding to sign.
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Keith, I just want to let you know that I appreciate the free rent you give me inside your head.... ;D
Fact is that Bob simply has moved on with another company and that's pretty much it. He did his job at BB.com and decided to move on. Most people don't realize this but BSN's headquarters is in FL and if I'm not mistaken Chick lives in Florida so this job will be a lot closer to home which prob factored in with him deciding to sign.
Yea Vince you are one of the few who knows BSN's headquarters is in Florida. Thanks for telling us. ::) ::) ::) Hey have you eaten at Vigne's down the street from your place.
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How can chick endorse products he knows are a bunch of bullshit. We all know professional bodybuilders, amateurs and any other sports athlete take steroids and hgh, the real shit, not this snake oil.
Judging from your pics, son...you could use all the snake oil, GH, steroids, you can get your hands on...
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Shouldn't someone that calls themself a "pro" actually compete? In most cases after a Pro is done competing they call themselves "former" pros.
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Judging from your pics, son...you could use all the snake oil, GH, steroids, you can get your hands on...
are you kidding me....move over kai greene
a new genetic precedent is about to be set.... :-\
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Bob thinks it is funny to allude that I drive around in a white van. While that is innocent enough we all know what he is referring to and for that insinuation the guy is a goddamned %$#%#%# asshole. Wait until he becomes a grandfather and see how amusing quips like that are. Bob also likes to tell others I am stupid. Well, I doubt he can match my intellect as he is a rather pedestrian, uneducated bloke. That doesn't stop him from trying to put down anyone who challenges him. He has no integrity. That is a quality I live by. There is nothing wrong with being old. He should know that because he won a Masters title. Yet he thinks by calling someone old and senile it is a putdown. Well, Bob Chicerillo is a nasty, smug, almost thug dickhead, and I am saying that under my real name. I would say that to his face, make no mistake about that. His only comeback would be to insist it is just bullshit on Getbig. Well he can go and get stuffed, the asshole. He has no moral right to any rewards in bodybuilding as far as I am concerned. He cleverly stops just short of slandering me but the damage is done. Everyone knows that.
Hopefully when I become a grandfather, I wont be spending my time taking pictures of complete strangers and attending people funerals I dont know....
As for questioning your intelligence..LOL..pleas e...you havent been able to engage in ANY kind of debate since day one, as you're misinformed, ignorant and clueless. And you wonder why people think you're senile....opening your mouth, perhaps?
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Hopefully when I become a grandfather, I wont be spending my time taking pictures of complete strangers and attending people funerals I dont know....
As for questioning your intelligence..LOL..pleas e...you havent been able to engage in ANY kind of debate since day one, as you're misinformed, ignorant and clueless. And you wonder why people think you're senile....opening your mouth, perhaps?
Bob, you have the vocabulary of a 5th grader, while Vince is that of a professor. He may have strange opinions, but his IQ is miles above yours! ;D
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Hopefully when I become a grandfather, I wont be spending my time taking pictures of complete strangers and attending people funerals I dont know....
As for questioning your intelligence..LOL..pleas e...you havent been able to engage in ANY kind of debate since day one, as you're misinformed, ignorant and clueless. And you wonder why people think you're senile....opening your mouth, perhaps?
Name calling--Chick's typical response when he can't directly address the arguments. Sad for someone employed to be a public spokesman.
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Hopefully when I become a grandfather, I wont be spending my time taking pictures of complete strangers and attending people funerals I dont know....
As for questioning your intelligence..LOL..pleas e...you havent been able to engage in ANY kind of debate since day one, as you're misinformed, ignorant and clueless. And you wonder why people think you're senile....opening your mouth, perhaps?
Bob, correct me if I am wrong , but here is my impression on some aspects of the supplement company endorsement contracts.
To me , it seems similar to when a pro athletes signs with one team, then gets traded or becomes a free agent and signs with another team. As a pro he plays his heart out for each team WHEN HE IS A MEMBER of that team.
As for the internet fued between you and Vince B, the whole thing can be entertaining , but seems pretty silly overall.
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Vince/Chick, You have been at each others throats for as long as I can remember on here. How did your fued begin?
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Vince/Chick, You have been at each others throats for as long as I can remember on here. How did your fued begin?
Bob won the NPC USA ( 2000) and Vince won the IFBB Canada (1970). It is only natural they would fued to see who would rule North America. All we need is for them to posedown in the masters div at the IFBB N America this yr.
I think both of them would get beat by a ripped masters from Mexico.
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Vince/Chick, You have been at each others throats for as long as I can remember on here. How did your fued begin?
Reminds me of the Hatfields and McCoys.
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Bob do you remember competing with Jessie Schwiers??
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Bob won the NPC USA ( 2000) and Vince won the IFBB Canada (1970). It is only natural they would fued to see who would rule North America. All we need is for them to posedown in the masters div at the IFBB N America this yr.
I think both of them would get beat by a ripped masters from Mexico.
Oh I see, its is a fued over who rules North America. Vince do you still reside in Canada?
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Hopefully when I become a grandfather, I wont be spending my time taking pictures of complete strangers
Especially when those strangers are young children!
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Especially when those strangers are young children!
It's nice to see some people who see just how vile taking pics of shirtless young lads and sharing them online with God knows who truly is.
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One of my sponsors when I competed at the start was Vuarnet Sunglasses which at the time were very popular and expensive for the time. I made very good money from them and got as many pairs of glasses as I wanted. Every friend had a pair, shows I worked on I gave certain people free pairs. when I worked on Over the Top every crew member got a pair and Stallone kept bugging me for a pair of the gold Aviators which were over $300. I made him beg (through his people of course) for awhile till he finally got a pair. Well, the owner called me in when it was time to renew and told me they had to drop me. It wasn't for lack of exposure or anything I did it was because I was paid too much. So we left though on good terms. Well at the time Revo was their biggest rival. I called Revo and talked to the person in charge of sponsorships and told him the situation I had with Vuarnet. Well he was very excited and I signed with them a one year contract right away. Same terms as Vuarnet. They had great glasses too but they didn't make me clothes like Vuarnet
Photo below is a movie where I got them in
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One of my sponsors when I competed at the start was Vuarnet Sunglasses which at the time were very popular and expensive for the time. I made very good money from them and got as many pairs of glasses as I wanted. Every friend had a pair, shows I worked on I gave certain people free pairs. when I worked on Over the Top every crew member got a pair and Stallone kept bugging me for a pair of the gold Aviators which were over $300. I made him beg (through his people of course) for awhile till he finally got a pair. Well, the owner called me in when it was time to renew and told me they had to drop me. It wasn't for lack of exposure or anything I did it was because I was paid too much. So we left though on good terms. Well at the time Revo was their biggest rival. I called Revo and talked to the person in charge of sponsorships and told him the situation I had with Vuarnet. Well he was very excited and I signed with them a one year contract right away. Same terms as Vuarnet. They had great glasses too but they didn't make me clothes like Vuarnet
Photo below is a movie where I got them in
Thats not the Blues Brothers.
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It's nice to see some people who see just how vile taking pics of shirtless young lads and sharing them online with God knows who truly is.
You need to come on down to Florida and train with me Danielson.
Leave any O$U shit that you may have been forced to wear. :D
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Ok Vince, here is my take based on what I know about marketing a product.
A well known personality brings attention to your product regardless of what you are selling.
By having a well known personality like Bob Chick on board, folks like me, will give their line of products a closer look.
If I like the product, I will continue to buy it and say some good things when asked, so it gets promoted word of mouth as well.
I know you don't like Bob, and he said some sarcastic stuff to you, etc. I honestly think if you reached out in a reasonable fair way, Bob would respond in kind.
just had to ask, why do you suddenly want to give BSN products a closer look? Bob apparently never tried them before he was on their payroll (and perhaps still hasnt).
All Bob has done is confirm what everyone above the age of 16 knows - no bodybuilder uses any of this crap.
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Judging from your pics, son...you could use all the snake oil you can get your hands on...
are you admitting that BSN products are 'snake oil'?? :o
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You need to come on down to Florida and train with me Danielson.
Leave any O$U shit that you may have been forced to wear. :D
That would be nice. Looks like I am staying in Ohio(with the occasional trip to Michigan) for the forseeable future. Went to Vegas last weekend and that's gonna be it for a while. :(
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That would be nice. Looks like I am staying in Ohio(with the occasional trip to Michigan) for the forseeable future. Went to Vegas last weekend and that's gonna be it for a while. :(
You have my Condolances. ;)
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just had to ask, why do you suddenly want to give BSN products a closer look? Bob apparently never tried them before he was on their payroll (and perhaps still hasnt).
All Bob has done is confirm what everyone above the age of 16 knows - no bodybuilder uses any of this crap.
epic logic on the part of Howard.
goes to show that having a masters in physics doesn't automatically make somebody a bright person.
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Name calling--Chick's typical response when he can't directly address the arguments. Sad for someone employed to be a public spokesman.
Bit of a condescending prick isn't he...
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are you admitting that BSN products are 'snake oil'?? :o
x2 for a answer from bob, but all we get is insults.
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Bob thinks it is funny to allude that I drive around in a white van. While that is innocent enough we all know what he is referring to and for that insinuation the guy is a goddamned %$#%#%# asshole. Wait until he becomes a grandfather and see how amusing quips like that are. Bob also likes to tell others I am stupid. Well, I doubt he can match my intellect as he is a rather pedestrian, uneducated bloke. That doesn't stop him from trying to put down anyone who challenges him. He has no integrity. That is a quality I live by. There is nothing wrong with being old. He should know that because he won a Masters title. Yet he thinks by calling someone old and senile it is a putdown. Well, Bob Chicerillo is a nasty, smug, almost thug dickhead, and I am saying that under my real name. I would say that to his face, make no mistake about that. His only comeback would be to insist it is just bullshit on Getbig. Well he can go and get stuffed, the asshole. He has no moral right to any rewards in bodybuilding as far as I am concerned. He cleverly stops just short of slandering me but the damage is done. Everyone knows that.
What color is your van, then?
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One of my sponsors when I competed at the start was Vuarnet Sunglasses which at the time were very popular and expensive for the time. I made very good money from them and got as many pairs of glasses as I wanted. Every friend had a pair, shows I worked on I gave certain people free pairs. when I worked on Over the Top every crew member got a pair and Stallone kept bugging me for a pair of the gold Aviators which were over $300. I made him beg (through his people of course) for awhile till he finally got a pair. Well, the owner called me in when it was time to renew and told me they had to drop me. It wasn't for lack of exposure or anything I did it was because I was paid too much. So we left though on good terms. Well at the time Revo was their biggest rival. I called Revo and talked to the person in charge of sponsorships and told him the situation I had with Vuarnet. Well he was very excited and I signed with them a one year contract right away. Same terms as Vuarnet. They had great glasses too but they didn't make me clothes like Vuarnet
Photo below is a movie where I got them in
Keith I remember when I was around 10 years old those Vuarnet shirts were everywhere. Did they strictly only sell sunglasses? why did they go under?
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What color is your van, then?
White, unmarked.
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Bit of a condescending prick isn't he...
That pretty much sums up Chick's character in a few choice words!
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That pretty much sums up Chick's character in a few choice words!
agreed
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White, unmarked.
(http://scrapetv.com/News/News%20Pages/usa/images-3/pedophile-van.jpg)
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Exactly, people are going to buy regardless. That is why the company is in business. It is up to the consumer to research and look into it. To turn down money especially in this economy or ever is just not a smart thing to do.
I wanted to touch on something else:
People should eventually be smart enough to realize their own genetics in accordance to their 'enhancement' use. You don't see me taking something using Peter North as a spokesman and expecting to blow that kind of load, lol. If it enhances my load, then it was a success.
BSN's NO Explode/Cellmass combo is brilliant, and both work really well with this thought process.
No food supplement is going to give you drug like results unless it has drugs in it. Most people are scammed into believing that they are one supplement away from achieving their wildest dreams when it would be impossible even with drugs.
So they resort to claiming the pros are scamming them and so forth because they took awhile to address their own stupidity.
All Chick has to do to maintain his integrity is actually try the products out in addition to his hormone usage. No one just drops their supplements when using gear, and someone of Bob's caliber would know if it made a difference or not. It isn't like they are peddling sugar that does nothing here.
Plus this is out of illogical hatred for Bob for whatever reason when he has always given great advice and has been very respectful considering the BS he has to deal with.
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Keith I remember when I was around 10 years old those Vuarnet shirts were everywhere. Did they strictly only sell sunglasses? why did they go under?
I don't think they are out of business. The at the time was Matias Mengis (sp?). He sold the company several years after I left and got into grapes. he owns many many acres of grapes I think in northern cal. his ex wife now (married then) is an old high school friend of mine. They had a complete apparel line which was highly "knocked-off" in the 80's. In fact I caught some people selling fake Vuarnet at the swap meet in Torrance, CA and told Matias and he had a group of cops show up the next weekend and busted them. That gave me a little side job spotting fakes and turning them in.
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You have to wonder about these supplement companies who are desperate to get authenticity and use bodybuilders who have never tried their products. What does that tell you? It confirms what I have always believed: supplements are mostly a waste of money. I say mostly because it depends on what your goals are. If you use a weight gain supplement then that is sensible. If you think you need more protein, etc., you probably don't know much about nutrition.
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You have to wonder about these supplement companies who are desperate to get authenticity and use bodybuilders who have never tried their products. What does that tell you? It confirms what I have always believed: supplements are mostly a waste of money. I say mostly because it depends on what your goals are. If you use a weight gain supplement then that is sensible. If you think you need more protein, etc., you probably don't know much about nutrition.
It depends on the company really. If you buy the hot supplement of the day when you start out and it doesn't work, you should know that those things are not the answer. Of course I bought all that stuff in my first few years thinking that it was the missing link between me and the pros or guys in the gym. Then I found out about steroids, and then I tried them. That closed the door on all legal supplements bridging the gap.
However there wasn't really a get big or BB.com then. There was message boards, but I did not think to look at them. The internet was still 56k, thus I would not have the patience to participate anyway.
You can use protein powders to supplement. I took one today and had a protein bar as well, plus a roast beef sandwich with cheese and a small pizza. 2200 calories or so, and that was that.
Yes, the guys shoveling down protein and not realizing that more is not better without paying attention to calories and so forth do not know much about nutrition, but if I sold protein you can bet your ass I would be on here telling people you need a gram and a half per pound of bodyweight, lol. Yet in both Flex and M&F they will espouse that, but the diets are always calorically controlled, which is good.
Either way, it is the customers responsibility to research things for themselves, and it is the company's obligation to make sure the formulation makes sense, the claims are somewhat truthful, and that it is safe/what is on the label is in the product. The rest is up to us.
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You have to wonder about these supplement companies who are desperate to get authenticity and use bodybuilders who have never tried their products. What does that tell you? It confirms what I have always believed: supplements are mostly a waste of money. I say mostly because it depends on what your goals are. If you use a weight gain supplement then that is sensible. If you think you need more protein, etc., you probably don't know much about nutrition.
good post, all truth, really a shame younger kids, high school, middle school throw so much of their money away on crap like this. Mowing the lawn probably, doing tons of hard labor just to get their fix of no explode or some other snake oil, it is just sad.
LOL @ smanjh claim it is the customer's responsibility to research the claims? ReallY!! Are u fucking kidding me???? When you go into a car dealership and they claim 30 mpg on the new car you looking at you take that as the truth right? Same with supplements dude, they should be held accountable.
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How are we to know what to eat to maintain health and grow? We haven't been killed by what we ate at home so that is the default nutrition program. If you do research into nutrition where do you go for the best information? Do you visit an health food store or a supplement store and talk to staff there? The bottom line is quite simple. If you don't know much about nutrition then how would you know if you need supplements or not? Without knowledge you won't know good advice from nonsense. You would hope that staff at gyms would steer you in the right direction. However, they make money selling supplements so you can't depend on them for accurate information. If you take too many supplements you usually don't harm yourself. Extra protein is converted by the liver into energy. An expensive way to obtain energy and taxing on the liver.
I recommend finding a thick nutrition textbook in a university book store. No, not thick like Bob Chick, but an authoritative treatise on human nutrition. These volumes are usually about 3 inches thick and each chapter ends with several pages of bibliography. That is how you know you have a publication used by graduate students in nutrition. Read what they have to say about protein requirement and exercise. You will be surprised. Muscle magazines and most popular books about diets are not the source for the best information. That really is a pity. However, when you read the magazines you will see that there are endless pages of ads by supplement companies. The editors can't print articles bagging supplements because they wouldn't exist without these advertisers.
I am giving you honest and responsible advice. Are you going to be naive and buy products because Bob C is a spokesman for a company that he knows virtually nothing about the products they sell. That means, obviously, that he has never used them. Conclusion: this is a scam. He has no authority to recommend those products. Why the owners of that company think they need a stooge like that perplexes me. They got the right guy, though, because he has a reputation of repeating whatever is required. Integrity goes out the door as long as he pays his bills.
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How are we to know what to eat to maintain health and grow? We haven't been killed by what we ate at home so that is the default nutrition program. If you do research into nutrition where do you go for the best information? Do you visit an health food store or a supplement store and talk to staff there? The bottom line is quite simple. If you don't know much about nutrition then how would you know if you need supplements or not? Without knowledge you won't know good advice from nonsense. You would hope that staff at gyms would steer you in the right direction. However, they make money selling supplements so you can't depend on them for accurate information. If you take too many supplements you usually don't harm yourself. Extra protein is converted by the liver into energy. An expensive way to obtain energy and taxing on the liver.
I recommend finding a thick nutrition textbook in a university book store. No, not thick like Bob Chick, but an authoritative treatise on human nutrition. These volumes are usually about 3 inches thick and each chapter ends with several pages of bibliography. That is how you know you have a publication used by graduate students in nutrition. Read what they have to say about protein requirement and exercise. You will be surprised. Muscle magazines and most popular books about diets are not the source for the best information. That really is a pity. However, when you read the magazines you will see that there are endless pages of ads by supplement companies. The editors can't print articles bagging supplements because they wouldn't exist without these advertisers.
I am giving you honest and responsible advice. Are you going to be naive and buy products because Bob C is a spokesman for a company that he knows virtually nothing about the products they sell. That means, obviously, that he has never used them. Conclusion: this is a scam. He has no authority to recommend those products. Why the owners of that company think they need a stooge like that perplexes me. They got the right guy, though, because he has a reputation of repeating whatever is required. Integrity goes out the door as long as he pays his bills.
In Bob's world money justifies everything..
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good post, all truth, really a shame younger kids, high school, middle school throw so much of their money away on crap like this. Mowing the lawn probably, doing tons of hard labor just to get their fix of no explode or some other snake oil, it is just sad.
LOL @ smanjh claim it is the customer's responsibility to research the claims? ReallY!! Are u fucking kidding me???? When you go into a car dealership and they claim 30 mpg on the new car you looking at you take that as the truth right? Same with supplements dude, they should be held accountable.
Yes but on the cars everything is regulated so you take what they say as truth. They don't do that with supplements. You can say almost anything. Take a look at the Muscletech bullshit ads.
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Yes but on the cars everything is regulated so you take what they say as truth. They don't do that with supplements. You can say almost anything. Take a look at the Muscletech bullshit ads.
Exactly. Look, even if they legalized testosterone cyp or something and Chick really did swear by it, it would still be a false advertisement to sell it and use his image because guess what? Most people do not have his genetics and experience, thus they could take all the test in the world and not look like him. It would be more honest because he would be telling you the exact truth, but realistically people would be crying bullshit because they do not put a genetic disclaimer on there.
The consumer has a responsibility to do their own shopping, and this does require research. When a car says "best in it's class', is it the company's fault that the customer misunderstands the term class for meaning every vehicle with 4 wheels?
With supplements, the formulators, even Muscletech try to come up with the best way to use stuff. Hydroxycut, even now, is better than using nothing at all. However it is not 6000% better, yet it may be in one form of the study.
That is why you need to research it just like you would anything else. Go to the grocery store. Every food is the best in it's class per the advertising. However that is opinion based.
I do agree that it is misleading for a newb to see someone like Bob advertising the product because they will think steroids are illegal and no one but cheaters use them in any sport. However a quick google search would let them know about supplements.
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Exactly. Look, even if they legalized testosterone cyp or something and Chick really did swear by it, it would still be a false advertisement to sell it and use his image because guess what? Most people do not have his genetics and experience, thus they could take all the test in the world and not look like him. It would be more honest because he would be telling you the exact truth, but realistically people would be crying bullshit because they do not put a genetic disclaimer on there.
The consumer has a responsibility to do their own shopping, and this does require research. When a car says "best in it's class', is it the company's fault that the customer misunderstands the term class for meaning every vehicle with 4 wheels?
With supplements, the formulators, even Muscletech try to come up with the best way to use stuff. Hydroxycut, even now, is better than using nothing at all. However it is not 6000% better, yet it may be in one form of the study.
That is why you need to research it just like you would anything else. Go to the grocery store. Every food is the best in it's class per the advertising. However that is opinion based.
I do agree that it is misleading for a newb to see someone like Bob advertising the product because they will think steroids are illegal and no one but cheaters use them in any sport. However a quick google search would let them know about supplements.
stop with the bullshit. When you advertise some product is 5000x times more potent than testosterone or some other crazy claim, it is criminal and misleading. Gov't needs to regulate these charlatans. You know damn well food doesn't make claims it can't hold as they have labels and do not say they will make you do this or that. Stop the bullshit.
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stop with the bullshit. When you advertise some product is 5000x times more potent than testosterone or some other crazy claim, it is criminal and misleading. Gov't needs to regulate these charlatans. You know damn well food doesn't make claims it can't hold as they have labels and do not say they will make you do this or that. Stop the bullshit.
How many times will you buy that product if it doesn't work? Afterward, you go to Google in order to find some sort of explanation, then you find discussions and reviews. Something amazing happens; before you drop 50 bones on something else, you look it up and try to find real evidence of it working.
The scam companies won't be around forever. As bad as MuscleTech is, their products are somewhat decent. Nothing like the claims, but I guess you found that out after your first bottle of Cryotest.
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How many times will you buy that product if it doesn't work? Afterward, you go to Google in order to find some sort of explanation, then you find discussions and reviews. Something amazing happens; before you drop 50 bones on something else, you look it up and try to find real evidence of it working.
The scam companies won't be around forever. As bad as MuscleTech is, their products are somewhat decent. Nothing like the claims, but I guess you found that out after your first bottle of Cryotest.
I bet many of these companies count on the new fools who are born every day to keep their businesses running.
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Sounds like most of the fellows here have tried supplements. Shows you that advertising works.
It is one thing to be associated with a product re advertising and quite another to endorse products. I think bodybuilders have a lot to answer for because of false claims.
We wouldn't expect a stellar individual like Bob C to compromise his integrity and endorse a supplement company unless he used their products and believed they were excellent.
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Sounds like most of the fellows here have tried supplements. Shows you that advertising works.
It is one thing to be associated with a product re advertising and quite another to endorse products. I think bodybuilders have a lot to answer for because of false claims.
We wouldn't expect a stellar individual like Bob C to compromise his integrity and endorse a supplement company unless he used their products and believed they were excellent.
You all speak as if supplements have no value at all. They have value, but clearly they do not have the value of steroids. I think a better question to ask is "does this supplement have a good cost to benefit ratio?"
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The point is what should we eat and drink in order to be healthy and build muscle. Are supplements necessary? Answer: probably not. That doesn't stop people from believing they are beneficial. If you know enough about nutrition you probably won't use supplements, including vitamins. There are some studies showing some benefits but most of these were commissioned by supplement companies. Young guys who are trying to add size probably need more calories. So, whatever can be taken to increase calories will have some benefit. The idea that because muscles are composed of water and protein doesn't mean you should ingest heaps of protein. Drinking plenty of water is okay. Beliefs are difficult to correct or erase. That is why people attend graduate school in nutrition and learn there. You are unlikely to learn much of value from reading bodybuilding magazines re nutrition. This is a real pity but the magazines are dependent on supplement companies or are owned by them. You cannot expect them to tell the whole truth about supplements and bodybuilding. It has been a sham for decades now. You won't learn much on the internet if you frequent muscle forums. Most of these guys are already brainwashed and have long ago lost the capacity for independent thinking. Every forum has several resident experts so take your pick and good luck.
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The point is what should we eat and drink in order to be healthy and build muscle. Are supplements necessary? Answer: probably not. That doesn't stop people from believing they are beneficial. If you know enough about nutrition you probably won't use supplements, including vitamins. There are some studies showing some benefits but most of these were commissioned by supplement companies. Young guys who are trying to add size probably need more calories. So, whatever can be taken to increase calories will have some benefit. The idea that because muscles are composed of water and protein doesn't mean you should ingest heaps of protein. Drinking plenty of water is okay. Beliefs are difficult to correct or erase. That is why people attend graduate school in nutrition and learn there. You are unlikely to learn much of value from reading bodybuilding magazines re nutrition. This is a real pity but the magazines are dependent on supplement companies or are owned by them. You cannot expect them to tell the whole truth about supplements and bodybuilding. It has been a sham for decades now. You won't learn much on the internet if you frequent muscle forums. Most of these guys are already brainwashed and have long ago lost the capacity for independent thinking. Every forum has several resident experts so take your pick and good luck.
This is partly true, and part nonsense. Reading bodybuilding mags can offer great insights to nutrition, if you have been reading them for a while, because the major ones, like MD and FLEX, put forth the latest sceintific studies on the subject. The key is to be pragmatic enough to shift through the information, and decide what is of value and what isn't.
To put it a different way, its important to not be dogmatic, and understand how your body reacts, when going over new information.
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The point is what should we eat and drink in order to be healthy and build muscle. Are supplements necessary? Answer: probably not. That doesn't stop people from believing they are beneficial. If you know enough about nutrition you probably won't use supplements, including vitamins. There are some studies showing some benefits but most of these were commissioned by supplement companies. Young guys who are trying to add size probably need more calories. So, whatever can be taken to increase calories will have some benefit. The idea that because muscles are composed of water and protein doesn't mean you should ingest heaps of protein. Drinking plenty of water is okay. Beliefs are difficult to correct or erase. That is why people attend graduate school in nutrition and learn there. You are unlikely to learn much of value from reading bodybuilding magazines re nutrition. This is a real pity but the magazines are dependent on supplement companies or are owned by them. You cannot expect them to tell the whole truth about supplements and bodybuilding. It has been a sham for decades now. You won't learn much on the internet if you frequent muscle forums. Most of these guys are already brainwashed and have long ago lost the capacity for independent thinking. Every forum has several resident experts so take your pick and good luck.
The reality is you would prefer to believe this even in the presence of science suggesting high protein consumption is beneficial for increasing muscle mass. Much the same your love affair with machines v free weights. What would we expect from a man who dedicated a large part of his life to engineering and creating resistance training machines?
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The point is what should we eat and drink in order to be healthy and build muscle. Are supplements necessary? Answer: probably not. That doesn't stop people from believing they are beneficial. If you know enough about nutrition you probably won't use supplements, including vitamins. There are some studies showing some benefits but most of these were commissioned by supplement companies. Young guys who are trying to add size probably need more calories. So, whatever can be taken to increase calories will have some benefit. The idea that because muscles are composed of water and protein doesn't mean you should ingest heaps of protein. Drinking plenty of water is okay. Beliefs are difficult to correct or erase. That is why people attend graduate school in nutrition and learn there. You are unlikely to learn much of value from reading bodybuilding magazines re nutrition. This is a real pity but the magazines are dependent on supplement companies or are owned by them. You cannot expect them to tell the whole truth about supplements and bodybuilding. It has been a sham for decades now. You won't learn much on the internet if you frequent muscle forums. Most of these guys are already brainwashed and have long ago lost the capacity for independent thinking. Every forum has several resident experts so take your pick and good luck.
Your right on a lot of things, and misguided on a few others.
I agree that protein needs are certainly not what they claim, but you do need a gram per kilogram for the best results. Is it easily obtained? Yes it is, however you can get pure protein through powder where as you are tied to the extra fat calories in meat or the carbs in bread and milk. This is when a shake or 2 becomes beneficial.
There are several herbs out today and other ingredients that really help. Use Gaspari's products and tell me you do not see a difference. If nothing else, their stuff makes you feel better, which translates to better results if the training and diet are in tact.
You wanna know why bodybuilders either have piss poor results or up their hormone use continuously? The sole problem is that they all follow and push a linear training program while ignoring the universally accepted 2 factor theory seen in periodized programs. If guys just took a week out of every 4 to deload properly, you would see better results.
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This is partly true, and part nonsense. Reading bodybuilding mags can offer great insights to nutrition, if you have been reading them for a while, because the major ones, like MD and FLEX, put forth the latest sceintific studies on the subject. The key is to be pragmatic enough to shift through the information, and decide what is of value and what isn't.
To put it a different way, its important to not be dogmatic, and understand how your body reacts, when going over new information.
Exactly. There are only a few factors in this:
With your individual genetics in mind;
How much training stress is optimal (training load)
How much frequency is optimal (days per week)
Progressive overload
Dealing with systematic fatigue via deloading
Diet (optimal nutrient amounts and correct calories based on your goal)
Supplement use to enhance all of the above
Steroid use (if desired)
The last 2 do not counteract the first 5, no shit. No drug or supplement will counteract bad training and incorrect eating. However the typical BBing mag is blind to proper training and blind to nutritional fact. MD is better than Flex on the matter though.
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The experts have arrived with nothing new to tell us. They are true believers like religious fanatics. In such an atmosphere even a philosopher of science is doomed.
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The experts have arrived with nothing new to tell us. They are true believers like religious fanatics. In such an atmosphere even a philospher of science is doomed.
You are being absurd. I also have a background in philosophy, and you are not acting in a way that is conducive to a philosophers mindset, if you did, would welcome good debate, over the merits of your ideas.
Instead you simply want us to nod our heads and pat you on the back for whatever nonsense you might have to say. ::)
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Oh, yes, I must give credit to MD with all those scientific articles. I no longer read most of those magazines yet I collected them all for over 40 years. That isn't science but editorial interpretations for muscleheads.
There is no debate needed in this thread to determine that Bob C is endorsing products he recently read about. That isn't what the guys who read magazines and see labels will think. They will presume that those products are okay because Bob C, pro athletes rep, said so.
There is no philosopher's mindset. Of all things that surely doesn't exist. There is a method that philosophers of science utilize to separate science from pseudo science. The point is such a person would gain no purchase on these forums. People here have similar beliefs and those are accepted as facts by most. In such a climate, debate and discussion are fruitless as is now being demonstrated by yourself and others.
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Oh, yes, I must give credit to MD with all those scientific articles. I no longer read most of those magazines yet I collected them all for over 40 years. That isn't science but editorial interpretations for muscleheads.
There is no debate needed in this thread to determine that Bob C is endorsing products he recently read about. That isn't what the guys who read magazines and see labels will think. They will presume that those products are okay because Bob C, pro athletes rep, said so.
There is no philosopher's mindset. Of all things that surely doesn't exist. There is a method that philosophers of science utilize to separate science from pseudo science. The point is such a person would gain no purchase on these forums. People here have similar beliefs and those are accepted as facts by most. In such a climate, debate and discussion are fruitless as is now being demonstrated by yourself and others.
A "philosophers mindset" is a romantic way of stating that a Philosopher is more interested in the concept of the "Truth," (regardless of how nebulous that term may or may not be), rather then simply being right.
Argument is engaged to test the validity of their ideas, and hold them up to scrutiny, in an effort to test and refine their ideologies, and systemizations. You seem to express little interest in actually presenting your ideas in a rational, cohesive, or systematic manner, but would rather be lazy and simply pawn everyone on this site off as lazy flotsam not worthy of your time or, efforts.
My advice is... Cut the bullshit, and post your theories with some lucidity, and structure, and allow us to analyze them, or get off your pedestal.
As for the MD columns, of course there is some editorial bias to some of it, as with just about any presentation, regardless of media. However they are taken from real medial abstracts, and studies, so it is up to the reader to exercise a pragmatic mindset, and decide what is of value, and what isn't.
No one is suggesting to just swallow all the things that BB has taught us over the last several decades. You are being incredibly condescending if you just tell us that anyone that believes that there is some merit to the information contained within this subculture is a fanatical moron, is simply someone that is either not being rational, or has an ax to grind, so which is it?
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This is no place for a seminar in philosophy discussion. Some are capable of that process but it is wasted in this setting. I have no obligation to maintain that standard among the flotsam and unwashed anonymous villians here. I use my own name so it isn't a level field discussing matters with some Topskin69 dude. I have no idea what you believe, your education or background. You have chosen to remain anonymous so don't deserve to be treated as an expert unless and until that has been established.
You have no problem making value judgements about the worth or otherwise of others so you obviously have an agenda other than seeking the truth as you call it. When you show respect it might be returned to you.
The bodybuilding magazines as a whole are not what I would call a periodical for gym owners and professional bodybuilders. There are no journals for these people which is a pity. The magazines cater to young people who might buy supplements.
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This is no place for a seminar in philosophy discussion. Some are capable of that process but it is wasted in this setting. I have no obligation to maintain that standard among the flotsam and unwashed anonymous villians here. I use my own name so it isn't a level field discussing matters with some Topskin69 dude. I have no idea what you believe, your education or background. You have chosen to remain anonymous so don't deserve to be treated as an expert unless and until that has been established.
You have no problem making value judgements about the worth or otherwise of others so you obviously have an agenda other than seeking the truth as you call it. When you show respect it might be returned to you.
The bodybuilding magazines as a whole are not what I would call a periodical for gym owners and professional bodybuilders. There are no journals for these people which is a pity. The magazines cater to young people who might buy supplements.
I am not exactly anonymous as I have posted my picture, and given some uncomplimentary tidbits of my life. Though granted I do not post with my real name.
I had to laugh when you mention agenda... I have taken Bob Chick to task MANY times over some of the dumb things he has said, and deservedly so, however this doesn't blind me to being objective, and realizing that you are being absurd with your attitude.
My education, real name, sexual preferences, or taste in pale ales, should have no bearing whatsoever on a discussion like this. Either your arguments have merit or they don't. My posts should be judged on the merit of what I have to say, and in the logic, and testable validity therein.
Nothing I say is intended to be taken as a personal judgment or attack against you. I am merely being assertive, by pointing your inane tendency to cry on the rooftops, and yet when someone will take the time to listen to what you have to say, you simply refuse, take your ball and go elsewhere.
M!
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Most thread end up with everyone bashing each other. Same thing is happening here but disguised as a serious discussion.
Concentrate on the topic and not the individuals in it and you will be fine. Using your vocabulary suggests you are educated. A disclosure of your degree and where you obtained it, your age and your occupation should suffice re personal information. Your experience in bodybuilding would help as well.
You are not merely being assertive but extremely judgemental not only of hapless stooge, Bob Chick, but myself and others. What gives you the authority to question my integrity and standing? Nothing. Hope this helps.
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Concentrate on the topic .
Vince, I am personally not trying to be insulting to anyone, not my style man. I am really trying to concentrate on the topic.
Speaking of which, have you tried any supplements outside of weight gainers?
NO supplements are awesome when used with creatine supplements. Cellmass is great if you do not respond to regular creatine monohydrate. I took the NO Explode/Cell Mass combo, changed nothing with diet and my workout, and it made me look much fuller and harder. I was already very lean at the time, but this stuff put me over the top.
There are also very cool herbs with clinical research behind them. I know, the subject of 'clinical research' is debatable, but this Divanil stuff found in TestoPro from Anabolic Innovations combined with the Resvaratrol in their Stoked product makes an incredible combo. You will be horny like never before and perform better sexually, lol. It also translates to the gym as well.
None of it replaces steroids, but they have things now that actually do something. For 60 bucks a month, the Stoked/TestoPro combo is really good. It isn't good if you have access to test or anything, but as far as natural stuff goes it is really cool.
For the record, I have found better alternatives for BSN products that I like better, but I do like BSN and certainly wouldn't turn it down.
Is there anything you guys actually like? Too much energy is spent looking at the bad and not at the good.
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This is no place for a seminar in philosophy discussion. Some are capable of that process but it is wasted in this setting. I have no obligation to maintain that standard among the flotsam and unwashed anonymous villians here. I use my own name so it isn't a level field discussing matters with some Topskin69 dude. I have no idea what you believe, your education or background. You have chosen to remain anonymous so don't deserve to be treated as an expert unless and until that has been established.
You have no problem making value judgements about the worth or otherwise of others so you obviously have an agenda other than seeking the truth as you call it. When you show respect it might be returned to you.
The bodybuilding magazines as a whole are not what I would call a periodical for gym owners and professional bodybuilders. There are no journals for these people which is a pity. The magazines cater to young people who might buy supplements.
You type a lot, but say very little.
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We had a company in Sydney selling RNA products about 40 years ago. They had a PhD researcher associated with them. I wanted to know how that product was going to be used by the body because it first had to survive the acids in the stomach. The claims were not supported and eventually it was taken off the market. Joe Weider products did not live up to claims on their labels so were removed and Joe was fined. He had no research clinic and his claims were preposterous. When his labels were accurate they were allowed back into Australia.
There has been research that supports supplements such as creatine but my main point is that the protein requirement is exaggerated and too many buy unnecessary products.
One truth about bodybuilding is that natural bodybuilders have trouble sustaining growth. The vast majority are growing slowly or not at all. When this occurs they look for solutions and many believe they need supplements. That is not true because most bodybuilders eat more food than an average person and probably better quality food. So they get all of their nutrients from what they eat and do not have to supplement their diets with pills and powders.
I accept that there isn't much nutrition research done on advanced bodybuilders. In the vacuum appear all manner of claims re nutrition and I dismiss most as hogwash. The supplement companies are spending millions of dollars miseducating young men so they buy their products. The professionals know this. Gym owners know this. Doctors know this. Scientists know this. The flotsam on Getbig should be sceptical but many are fooled and are oblivious to the truth.
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Really only thing a bodybuilder needs is good quality food and steroids, no supplements, they only use them to get the money for endorsing them. How many bodybuilders who are not endorsed by a supplement company take hydroxcut ? ;D
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Really only thing a bodybuilder needs is good quality food and steroids, no supplements, they only use them to get the money for endorsing them. How many bodybuilders who are not endorsed by a supplement company take hydroxcut ? ;D
knowing a licensed animal doctor is good too :)
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I really am disappointed in where bodybuilding has gone. Decades ago we suspected the champs were using gear but no one was disclosing what they took. Eventually it got out that just about everyone was using steroids. We were not prepared for the widespread abuse of chemicals that we see today in the professional contests.
The supplement companies know about the steroids but that doesn't matter. They sweep it under the carpet and keep selling your products. Bodybuilding is a sham and a disgrace.
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I really am disappointed in where bodybuilding has gone. Decades ago we suspected the champs were using gear but no one was disclosing what they took. Eventually it got out that just about everyone was using steroids. We were not prepared for the widespread abuse of chemicals that we see today in the professional contests.
The supplement companies know about the steroids but that doesn't matter. They sweep it under the carpet and keep selling your products. Bodybuilding is a sham and a disgrace.
What you say is true, but what do you suggest would be a good answer. Without the funding of the supplement companies Pro Bodybuilding would cease to exist, or at the very best it would revert to going back to competing for a couple of grand and a handshake, a la the Arnold days.
Someone has to fund this industry, so what would you suggest be a practical solution, to this problem?
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I would ruthlessly boot out all those running bodybuilding and start again. Bob C at the top of the list with his buddy Manion. Implement strict testing for banned substances. Have testing done during the year at random times. Lifetime bans for cheaters. Test for substances and inserts. No silicon in men or women. Have elections and make the executive responsible. Without removeability there is no democracy.
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I would ruthlessly boot out all those running bodybuilding and start again. Bob C at the top of the list with his buddy Manion. Implement strict testing for banned substances. Have testing done during the year at random times. Lifetime bans for cheaters. Test for substances and inserts. No silicon in men or women. Have elections and make the executive responsible. Without removeability there is no democracy.
Not enough money and resources
+ for every competitor there are are 5 or so dreamers who never make it to the stage. Do we test those chumps too? Who pays for that?
The public has every god damned right to support the so called natural federations. Bottom line is we don't want to see swimmers onstage.
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Don't be silly, all the judges need to do is start judging lower for protruding guts.
The BBers are only doing it because that's what the schmoe.. er.. judges want! ;D Those big pregnant GH bellies sure are sexy! I love mutant muscle men oiled up in thongs flexing and presenting their striated glutes in a homoerotic beauty pageant!
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Don't be silly, all the judges need to do is start judging lower for protruding guts.
The BBers are only doing it because that's what the schmoe.. er.. judges want! ;D Those big pregnant GH bellies sure are sexy! I love mutant men!
The only reason those bellies exist is insulin and the larger bodyweights... try carrying 270lbs+ with nice slim tight waistline and a pair of decent legs too... it just isn't happening...
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I would ruthlessly boot out all those running bodybuilding and start again. Bob C at the top of the list with his buddy Manion. Implement strict testing for banned substances. Have testing done during the year at random times. Lifetime bans for cheaters. Test for substances and inserts. No silicon in men or women. Have elections and make the executive responsible. Without removeability there is no democracy.
you sound like retarded old codger.....please die already.
NOBODY LIKES YOU.....
there is NO such thing as bodybuilding without bodybuilding drugs.
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Vince Basile has a business plan to create failure in a long standing organisation. Go ahead I'm sure another organisation won't test... appeal to public with freakiness and take those dollars and prestige.
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The only reason those bellies exist is insulin and the larger bodyweights... try carrying 270lbs+ with nice slim tight waistline and a pair of decent legs too... it just isn't happening...
That's the point silly stud! If the judges really wanted to cut back on insulin and GH usage, they'd penalize obvious signs of usage such as protruding GH guts. The pros would drop insulin and GH in a hot minute if it meant they had a better chance at winning and less expenses to pay.
But the judges won't do that, because they, like all us schmoes out there, love our comically proportioned mutant muscle men showing off their hot GLUTES to masturbate to.... oh yeah! :-*
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I really am disappointed in where bodybuilding has gone. Decades ago we suspected the champs were using gear but no one was disclosing what they took. Eventually it got out that just about everyone was using steroids. We were not prepared for the widespread abuse of chemicals that we see today in the professional contests.
The supplement companies know about the steroids but that doesn't matter. They sweep it under the carpet and keep selling your products. Bodybuilding is a sham and a disgrace.
What do you mean "we" suspected the champs were using gear....werent YOU one of the champs using gear?
As for the supp companies "sweeping it under the carpet"...LOL.....whats the big secret they're keeping from everyone, that steroids work? They keep selling product to people that DONT take steroids...last I checked, no one has been forced to take either one.
Whats a sham and disgrace....is you
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In the old days it wasn't against the rules or law to use steroids. The current lack of rules is making drug use unregulated with abuse widespread and this is especially true with the women. The blame lies with those who run the sport not past champions. The whole sport at the professional level is a sham. Bob is right there condoning the practice and is doing absolutely nothing to change things for the better.
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In the old days it wasn't against the rules or law to use steroids. The current lack of rules is making drug use unregulated with abuse widespread and this is especially true with the women. The blame lies with those who run the sport not past champions. The whole sport at the professional level is a sham. Bob is right there condoning the practice and is doing absolutely nothing to change things for the better.
So you werent disappointed in where BB was going back when YOU were using gear...because it was legal?
You think the natural guys back in your day were saying the same thing about YOU? You believe the guy that took 2nd or 3rd was bitching because this guy Basile was obviously using, which s why he won...?
As I've stated over and over, Basile...when the athletes start requesting to get tested, I'll be more than happy to submit it....as the representative, I echo what the IFBB athletes are interested in...or not.
We didnt start the fire...you did
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Talk about twisting reality. Chick, you have absolutely no shame. Don't try to blame me for the uncontrolled drug use in many competitions. At the professional level it is so widespread that it is unsafe and unchecked. Both the men and women have gone too far and just about everyone I talk to would not do what is required to compete at that level. What are you doing for those who want a level playing field instead of the drug mine field that you support?
Guys like you have no right representing anyone at all and especially not bodybuilders. I hope you understand this but you are rather thick when you need to be. I bet Manion gets pissed off at the way you don't comprehend simple instructions. He has to write everything down for you and reprimand you frequently before you have a clue about what to do.
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I really am disappointed in where bodybuilding has gone. Decades ago we suspected the champs were using gear but no one was disclosing what they took. Eventually it got out that just about everyone was using steroids. We were not prepared for the widespread abuse of chemicals that we see today in the professional contests.
The supplement companies know about the steroids but that doesn't matter. They sweep it under the carpet and keep selling your products. Bodybuilding is a sham and a disgrace.
Ya know Vince , far from hide from the drug use, many supplement products "tie in" with the drug ideals.
They hint ( in a not so subtle manner) that you can obtain a LEGAL drug like effect with their new product.
To me, more than half of the current male pro physiques look kinda ugly and rather distorted.
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Talk about twisting reality. Chick, you have absolutely no shame. Don't try to blame me for the uncontrolled drug use in many competitions. At the professional level it is so widespread that it is unsafe and unchecked. Both the men and women have gone too far and just about everyone I talk to would not do what is required to compete at that level. What are you doing for those who want a level playing field instead of the drug mine field that you support?
Guys like you have no right representing anyone at all and especially not bodybuilders. I hope you understand this but you are rather thick when you need to be. I bet Manion gets pissed off at the way you don't comprehend simple instructions. He has to write everything down for you and reprimand you frequently before you have a clue about what to do.
Once again, Basile...you show your artful skill of debate by not addressing what is written, but just throwing out drivel...over and over.
You're a text book case of someone trying to argue while really not having any idea what is going on...
If everyone is doing whatever drugs they want...isnt it a level playing field already? They have drug tested shows for those who want to compete drug free, and even THOSE they complain about people beating the tests....much like the Olympics.
As for blaming YOU....werent YOU part of the initial problem? Werent YOU one of those that used drugs to your advantage over those that werent? Werent YOU one of the pioneers that paved the way for future generations of BBers to explore the great unknown of steroids, etc....leading by example, Basile....
YOU benefitted by winning a title while using steroids, who are you to tell anyone else now that they shouldnt?
hypocrite
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Bob, Bob, Bob, shake your sorry head! Very few bodybuilders disclosed their steroid use in the old days.
You talk so irresponsibly that surely a former assistant deputy sheriff should hang his head in shame. You literally cannot see the forest for the trees. You honestly and amazingly believe there is no problem because of the widespread use of banned substances by many bodybuilders. The IFBB has rules against these banned substances but for some reason known only to them they do not enforce them. Thus, the IFBB must accept all the blame for the lack of testing. Since you are associated with the Pro League you must share some of that blame. That is the bottom line.
Don't try to blame champions who competed 40 years ago for your current mess.
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Bob, Bob, Bob, shake your sorry head! Very few bodybuilders disclosed their steroid use in the old days.
You talk so irresponsibly that surely a former assistant deputy sheriff should hang his head in shame. You literally cannot see the forest for the trees. You honestly and amazingly believe there is no problem because of the widespread use of banned substances by many bodybuilders. The IFBB has rules against these banned substances but for some reason known only to them they do not enforce them. Thus, the IFBB must accept all the blame for the lack of testing. Since you are associated with the Pro League you must share some of that blame. That is the bottom line.
Don't try to blame champions who competed 40 years ago for your current mess.
Let me correct you on yet another point you continue to get wrong....there is no "assistant" deputy sheriff title....you're either a deputy sheriff, or the under sheriff, or the Sheriff himself...
Cant get much of anything right can you?
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Bob, Bob, Bob, shake your sorry head! Very few bodybuilders disclosed their steroid use in the old days.
You talk so irresponsibly that surely a former assistant deputy sheriff should hang his head in shame. You literally cannot see the forest for the trees. You honestly and amazingly believe there is no problem because of the widespread use of banned substances by many bodybuilders. The IFBB has rules against these banned substances but for some reason known only to them they do not enforce them. Thus, the IFBB must accept all the blame for the lack of testing. Since you are associated with the Pro League you must share some of that blame. That is the bottom line.
Don't try to blame champions who competed 40 years ago for your current mess.
Mr. Basile, don't even waste your time arguing with bob chik. He is a crumb. Don't dignify his stupidity with your intelligent commentary. He is unable to spell even simple words correctly, never mind think in an intellectually sublimated manner.
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Mr. Basile, don't even waste your time arguing with bob chik. He is a crumb. Don't dignify his stupidity with your intelligent commentary. He is unable to spell even simple words correctly, never mind think in an intellectually sublimated manner.
What are you talking about, Bob is really making a lot of sense here, and it is good to see a logical and rational argument in support of bodybuilding. Like I said, the consumer needs to do the work. BSN doesn't advertise like Muscletech, no one is doing anything dangerous either way, and people like Chick are around to confirm the drug use for anyone who is nieve about it, all they gotta do is Google the term 'do pro bodybuilder's use steroids' and there you are.
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Once again, Basile...you show your artful skill of debate by not addressing what is written, but just throwing out drivel...over and over.
You're a text book case of someone trying to argue while really not having any idea what is going on...
If everyone is doing whatever drugs they want...isnt it a level playing field already? They have drug tested shows for those who want to compete drug free, and even THOSE they complain about people beating the tests....much like the Olympics.
As for blaming YOU....werent YOU part of the initial problem? Werent YOU one of those that used drugs to your advantage over those that werent? Werent YOU one of the pioneers that paved the way for future generations of BBers to explore the great unknown of steroids, etc....leading by example, Basile....
YOU benefitted by winning a title while using steroids, who are you to tell anyone else now that they shouldnt?
hypocrite
Bob, we both know that the 48 pgs of rules on banned sutances has rarely been enforced. To both of you steroids were used in every major BB meet since the 60's.The only hypocrite here is the IFBB which has plenty of rules on roid use with no intention to enforce them.
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Let me correct you on yet another point you continue to get wrong....there is no "assistant" deputy sheriff title....you're either a deputy sheriff, or the under sheriff, or the Sheriff himself...
Cant get much of anything right can you?
Speaking of the law Bob hehehe. Seriously, could a pro BB be honest and admit what drugs they use to a cop?
If the "level playing field" inculdes drug use, then that means ya gotta break the drug laws to play right?
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I would ruthlessly boot out all those running bodybuilding and start again. Bob C at the top of the list with his buddy Manion. Implement strict testing for banned substances. Have testing done during the year at random times. Lifetime bans for cheaters. Test for substances and inserts. No silicon in men or women. Have elections and make the executive responsible. Without removeability there is no democracy.
Sadly Vince, the vast majority of hardcore BB's all but demand extreme drug use. The current policy relfect that desire by looking the other way on drug use in pro BB. The current winners look distorted in my opinion.
The NPC and IFBB is NOT like the old AAU as an organization, officials and chairmen are appointed NOT elected.
Bob is simply doing the best he can with the situation AS IT CURRENTLY EXISTS.
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Speaking of the law Bob hehehe. Seriously, could a pro BB be honest and admit what drugs they use to a cop?
If the "level playing field" inculdes drug use, then that means ya gotta break the drug laws to play right?
You mean the cops who are taking gear?....sure
You dont "have" to do anything....what do all the other athletes in other sports do?
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You mean the cops who are taking gear?....sure
You dont "have" to do anything....what do all the other athletes in other sports do?
I would like to see an IFBB division that is natural, or at least stringently tested. However it won't stop anything-we all know how to use something and get around the test.
Other sports are the same way, guys do what they need to. Every time money is involved you end up trying to find an edge. Businesses break the law, people break the law, etc. in order to advance and win.
Ronnie Colemen, Barry Bonds, and you have one thing in common: Without the genetics and talent, no drug in the world will get people to your level.
As for your integrity, you may be endorsing something that you know will use puffery and maybe something you know doesn't 'work like steroids', but:
You would not endorse something, in this day and age, that is not good in comparison to the other stuff. People hate on BSN now because they are so popular. When they were new, everyone loved them.
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I really am disappointed in where bodybuilding has gone. Decades ago we suspected the champs were using gear but no one was disclosing what they took. Eventually it got out that just about everyone was using steroids. We were not prepared for the widespread abuse of chemicals that we see today in the professional contests.
The supplement companies know about the steroids but that doesn't matter. They sweep it under the carpet and keep selling your products. Bodybuilding is a sham and a disgrace.
fucking x2, great post.
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You mean the cops who are taking gear?....sure
You dont "have" to do anything....what do all the other athletes in other sports do?
This issue gets beaten like the proverbial deadhorse. As you know I love BB, but the "accepted policy" that is involved with illegal drug use, I just can't approve of as a fan * (not that anyone cares what I think).
No biggy. FYI, I found out our state HS grad exam scores today. I had 100% pass in my science /math exam prep class.
the state avg is around 70%
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This issue gets beaten like the proverbial deadhorse. As you know I love BB, but the "accepted policy" that is involved with illegal drug use, I just can't approve of as a fan * (not that anyone cares what I think).
No biggy. FYI, I found out our state HS grad exam scores today. I had 100% pass in my science /math exam prep class.
the state avg is around 70%
Is what it is Howie...as long as there are sports, there will be athletes looking for an advantage.
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This issue gets beaten like the proverbial deadhorse. As you know I love BB, but the "accepted policy" that is involved with illegal drug use, I just can't approve of as a fan * (not that anyone cares what I think).
No biggy. FYI, I found out our state HS grad exam scores today. I had 100% pass in my science /math exam prep class.
the state avg is around 70%
Congrats Howard, that is great news. Must be they have a great teacher
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Is what it is Howie...as long as there are sports, there will be athletes looking for an advantage.
True enough. BUT in bodybuilding, unlike most other sports, if you say the guys can't juice, the BB fans are the ones who feel CHEATED! hehe
As you might suspect I persoally don't really care about who takes what for a contest. I do care about the quality of physiques I see on stage.
Guys like YOU Bob, Shawn Ray, Lee Labrada, Bob Paris , etc were NOT natural. But the end product physique was still a work of art with muscle.
Like the woman by the late 80's the men have now gone too far.
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This old washed up has been Basile needs to crawl in a hole and die
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Congrats Howard, that is great news. Must be they have a great teacher
Thanks so much for the kind compliment. In all modesty, my ability to teach and "make simple" the concepts of math and science, is a gift.
Obviously,I don't do nearly as well getting my ideas on BB understood on these forums hehehe.
On a serious note the students I have in 2 state exam prep classes all failed the exam as jrs (11th gr)
I take great pride and joy in doing my small part in getting them to graduation.
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This old washed up has been Basile needs to crawl in a hole and die
Vince is man of principls who has NOT been active in BB for a number of years.
I think most would agree , that BB hs gotten pretty extreme with drug use in the past 20 yrs.
Yes, roids were there at the first Olympia 45 yrs ago, but NOT like it is now.
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Vince is man of principls who has NOT been active in BB for a number of years.
I think most would agree , that BB hs gotten pretty extreme with drug use in the past 20 yrs.
Yes, roids were there at the first Olympia 45 yrs ago, but NOT like it is now.
Not like it is now ONLY because most of it wasnt invented yet....if it was, damn sure they would have been using it...
All things being equal, what they did WAS extreme, in comparison to those doing NOTHING....
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Not like it is now ONLY because most of it wasnt invented yet....if it was, damn sure they would have been using it...
All things being equal, what they did WAS extreme, in comparison to those doing NOTHING....
My pt agrees with you believe it or not. EVERY Mr Olympia since Larry Scott in 1965 did whatever state of the art juice they had available in that era. All other sports have champs and legends before steroids were used in their sport, BUT not BB.
Baseball has guys form the old days like Babe Ruth and Ty Cobb waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay before roids were invented.
Same with football,hockey, track etc.
BB has only known Mr Olympias that juiced, no Mr O was a natty, not one. Fair or not this is the legacy of BB and part of the sport.
A more practical way to go is YOUR idea Bob , that you told me at an expo in Colorado.
"If they come on stage looking like a science experiment gone wrong, they get last...end of story"
I agree! Screw drug testing , just judge the thing so it is a PHYSIQUE contest!
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So Vince, did you use steroids or were you natural? Were you natural when you won the Mr Canada title? What drugs were around when you were in your prime?
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My pt agrees with you believe it or not. EVERY Mr Olympia since Larry Scott in 1965 did whatever state of the art juice they had available in that era. All other sports have champs and legends before steroids were used in their sport, BUT not BB.
Baseball has guys form the old days like Babe Ruth and Ty Cobb waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay before roids were invented.
Same with football,hockey, track etc.
BB has only known Mr Olympias that juiced, no Mr O was a natty, not one. Fair or not this is the legacy of BB and part of the sport.
A more practical way to go is YOUR idea Bob , that you told me at an expo in Colorado.
"If they come on stage looking like a science experiment gone wrong, they get last...end of story"
I agree! Screw drug testing , just judge the thing so it is a PHYSIQUE contest!
Lets not forget, Howie....before steroids, there were plenty of other drugs that athletes used for an edge...cocaine, speed, uppers, etc...even alcohol in the old days was used. In the Olympics WAY back, there was no drug testing...it's only the stigma of what steroids did that kept the other sports from using them for many years....now, pretty much EVERY sport has had positive test results over the years....
As for legacies, I believe gear has been used for much longer than people think...I can all but guarantee you that not one single superbowl team was drug free either.
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Lets not forget, Howie....before steroids, there were plenty of other drugs that athletes used for an edge...cocaine, speed, uppers, etc...even alcohol in the old days was used. In the Olympics WAY back, there was no drug testing...it's only the stigma of what steroids did that kept the other sports from using them for many years....now, pretty much EVERY sport has had positive test results over the years....
As for legacies, I believe gear has been used for much longer than people think...I can all but guarantee you that not one single superbowl team was drug free either.
Like me, you know your sports history , well played sir! ;)
I think we can agree it comes to degrees of aid and how it can change a sport.
Look at how the high tech bench shirts added 300 lbs to the best benchpress.
That is pretty extreme and absurd in my opinion.
If BB was judged right, the drug extremes would not be so crazy...just my 2 cents
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Like me, you know your sports history , well played sir! ;)
I think we can agree it comes to degrees of aid and how it can change a sport.
Look at how the high tech bench shirts added 300 lbs to the best benchpress.
That is pretty extreme and absurd in my opinion.
If BB was judged right, the drug extremes would not be so crazy...just my 2 cents
As weve talked about my friend...it begins and ends with judging. For both men and women (especially the women)...simply dont reward absurd looking anomolies...plain and simple.
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As weve talked about my friend...it begins and ends with judging. For both men and women (especially the women)...simply dont reward absurd looking anomolies...plain and simple.
On that pt we are in complete agreement. :)
Perhaps, the UN will call us in and we can solve world peace for 'em...nah' Vince Basille, Gov of East Mongolia would show up and refuse to sign the treaty , because he wanted it written on a 1970 typewritter hehehehe
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According to Bob, pro athletes lifetime rep and resident stooge, the mess re drugs in bodybuilding can be traced back to the Mr Canada 1970 contest where the winner used 2 Dianabol tablets for a couple of months?
Nice try, Bob, at shifting the blame. The blame lies with the IFBB, Ben Weider and those running the Pro League. Ben drew up the rules but they were not enforced at the pro level.
The obvious reason there is no testing is because the IFBB fears the pros will go elsewhere and thus the IFBB will lose its power and earning capacity. That has been behind the lack of drug testing. It was also behind the suspension of Lee Priest who did a contest in another organization.
This sport is run by henchmen assisted by stooges. What a sorry state we are in. We don't have to canvass the drug users to do the right thing for everyone and the sport.
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According to Bob, pro athletes lifetime rep and resident stooge, the mess re drugs in bodybuilding can be traced back to the Mr Canada 1970 contest where the winner used 2 Dianabol tablets for a couple of months?
Nice try, Bob, at shifting the blame. The blame lies with the IFBB, Ben Weider and those running the Pro League. Ben drew up the rules but they were not enforced at the pro level.
The obvious reason there is no testing is because the IFBB fears the pros will go elsewhere and thus the IFBB will lose its power and earning capacity. That has been behind the lack of drug testing. It was also behind the suspension of Lee Priest who did a contest in another organization.
This sport is run by henchmen assisted by stooges. What a sorry state we are in. We don't have to canvass the drug users to do the right thing for everyone and the sport.
the only thing to do is walk away from the sport many competitors and fans, the money will dry up and they will be forced to do something about it. Right now people still attend, and spend their money on it. The fans or competitors have to show them by hurting their wallet, only way to change the stooges.
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What on earth have the judges got to do with drug rules in bodybuilding? Talk about closing the barn door after the horses have bolted.
We can guage the quality of the IFBB by those who run it. If Bob is the appointed pro rep then those guys might as well have no representation because Bob works for Manion. Manion has collected all manner of unsavoury people to enforce his empire. Bob is nothing but a sheepdog who has to keep the hapless pros in line. He has absolutely no clue about what is best for bodybuilding.
According to the athletes rep stooge, Mr Canada was to blame for drugs in sports and now it is the judges! Give Bob a dunce's hat and sit him in the corner until he is capable of intelligent thinking.
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According to Bob, pro athletes lifetime rep and resident stooge, the mess re drugs in bodybuilding can be traced back to the Mr Canada 1970 contest where the winner used 2 Dianabol tablets for a couple of months?
Nice try, Bob, at shifting the blame. The blame lies with the IFBB, Ben Weider and those running the Pro League. Ben drew up the rules but they were not enforced at the pro level.
The obvious reason there is no testing is because the IFBB fears the pros will go elsewhere and thus the IFBB will lose its power and earning capacity. That has been behind the lack of drug testing. It was also behind the suspension of Lee Priest who did a contest in another organization.
This sport is run by henchmen assisted by stooges. What a sorry state we are in. We don't have to canvass the drug users to do the right thing for everyone and the sport.
Good pts on the drug issue never really being enforeced by the IFBB Vince, *GOV of E Moongolia ( just clowning my friend). BUT like a political partty , when the vast majority want something....
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What on earth have the judges got to do with drug rules in bodybuilding? Talk about closing the barn door after the horses have bolted.
We can guage the quality of the IFBB by those who run it. If Bob is the appointed pro rep then those guys might as well have no representation because Bob works for Manion. Manion has collected all manner of unsavoury people to enforce his empire. Bob is nothing but a sheepdog who has to keep the hapless pros in line. He has absolutely no clue about what is best for bodybuilding.
According to the athletes rep stooge, Mr Canada was to blame for drugs in sports and now it is the judges! Give Bob a dunce's hat and sit him in the corner until he is capable of intelligent thinking.
Vince BOB never said anything about drugs starting with Mr Canada c'mon
If you judge the thing right and don't reward freaky size and cuts, the extreme drug use will cease to be an "advantage" like it is now.
Just ge winners based more on shape and balance
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Howard, the judges are not responsible for the mess re drugs. They play a part but are chosen by the IFBB. That is the governing body and the officials there must enforce the rules or change them.
It really is amazing that Arnold can run a pro show of athletes where no testing is done for banned substances. What hypocrites in America.
Every bodybuilder can contribute to the sport. The way it is structured now the bodybuilders have to take drugs to compete at the professional level. What has happened to the women is really sad. Would any parent here want his son or daughter to become a professional bodybuilder in the future? Drug free, prehaps, but they will never win Mr or Ms Olympia.
The reason we have this drug abuse is because you can't remove the officials from the IFBB. Those in power are not changing the status quo for reasons I mentioned before. Bob can't do anything and retain his standing with the IFBB. That is the bottom line so it is pointless arguing with that stooge.
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Howard, the judges are not responsible for the mess re drugs. They play a part but are chosen by the IFBB. That is the governing body and the officials there must enforce the rules or change them.
It really is amazing that Arnold can run a pro show of athletes where no testing is done for banned substances. What hypocrites in America.
Every bodybuilder can contribute to the sport. The way it is structured now the bodybuilders have to take drugs to compete at the professional level. What has happened to the women is really sad. Would any parent here want his son or daughter to become a professional bodybuilder in the future? Drug free, prehaps, but they will never win Mr or Ms Olympia.
The reason we have this drug abuse is because you can't remove the officials from the IFBB. Those in power are not changing the status quo for reasons I mentioned before. Bob can't do anything and retain his standing with the IFBB. That is the bottom line so it is pointless arguing with that stooge.
Vince tearing Bob and the IFBB a new one!!
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Howard, the judges are not responsible for the mess re drugs. They play a part but are chosen by the IFBB. That is the governing body and the officials there must enforce the rules or change them.
It really is amazing that Arnold can run a pro show of athletes where no testing is done for banned substances. What hypocrites in America.
Every bodybuilder can contribute to the sport. The way it is structured now the bodybuilders have to take drugs to compete at the professional level. What has happened to the women is really sad. Would any parent here want his son or daughter to become a professional bodybuilder in the future? Drug free, prehaps, but they will never win Mr or Ms Olympia.
The reason we have this drug abuse is because you can't remove the officials from the IFBB. Those in power are not changing the status quo for reasons I mentioned before. Bob can't do anything and retain his standing with the IFBB. That is the bottom line so it is pointless arguing with that stooge.
That is one side, here is another:
You will never remove performance enhancing drugs. As long as there is money involved, there will always be people involved that try to get apart of that, and that means new products and new drugs. The testers will never be able to keep up, so the mere invention of the drugs is guaranteed use by several athletes.
The interest just is not there in bodybuilding for them to be able to get rid of the drugs if guys are just going to end up using them anyway.
The governments of the world need to come up with safe parameters for steroid use just like they do with alcohol and other drugs. Make people get a license or certificate to use them for vanity reasons, thus you take away the problems with the majority pushing the envelope and doing dangerous shit.
It isn't like Weider called Ziegler and planned out what happened. If anything, Weider probably wants it to go back to where there were no drugs since that would make his dream of bodybuilding being universally accepted a possibility.
The problem with the drugs now is that you have to learn everything from a 'guru' that may only be focused on the end result and not the safety.
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What hypocrites in America.
Yes, because America is the only country that has drug laws and bodybuilding shows.
You fat, slovenly, old ass canadian goof, wanna-be Australian.
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Yes, because America is the only country that has drug laws and bodybuilding shows.
You fat, slovenly, old ass canadian goof, wanna-be Australian.
back off Vince, all of us will get older, what kind of insult is that? He is a good man, owns his own gym, lives a good life, and wants to see the sport better itself.
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back off Vince, all of us will get older, what kind of insult is that? He is a good man, owns his own gym, lives a good life, and wants to see the sport better itself.
STFU you pudgy little shitstained terrorist.
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STFU you pudgy little shitstained terrorist.
great comeback, very original, and funny ::)
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great comeback, very original, and funny ::)
You're mistaken, as usual, there was no humor intended, just the facts, ma'am.
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Australia isn't much better than America. When I arrived here in 1971 there was one Mr Australia title holder. Now I can't count how many can claim that title. Each winner of his weight class can claim it in the IFBB affiliated shows. Then there is NABBA titles. In addition are several natural organizations all having Mr Australia titles. Years ago we knew who Mr Australia was and it was a big title. Today it has diminished in prestige. Why Paul Graham stopped using that overall title only he knows. It was a bad decision as far as I am concerned. Paul does as he wishes re the IFBB in Australia. There is no responsibility and there are no elections for his position.
A pity there is no Mr America any more. That was a prized title and drug testing could have been part of the process since it was affiliated with the AAU.
It really is sad when most trainees give up on trying to find better ways to train because deep down they honestly believe it is all about drugs. When the drugs don't work they conclude they don't have the genetics! They don't blame their training methods because they believe they are experts and are already doing it the best way possible.
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It really is sad when most trainees give up on trying to find better ways to train because deep down they honestly believe it is all about drugs. When the drugs don't work they conclude they don't have the genetics! They don't blame their training methods because they believe they are experts and are already doing it the best way possible.
Only losers speak of genetics... also are you sure they don't experiment with differing training methods? I think deep down most trainees are insecure in their training and sometimes overcompensate in discussion with conviction.
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The vast majority of bodybuilders are not growing rapidly. When growth stops or occurs slowly bodybuilders tend to get confused and end up not knowing what to do to stimulate more growth. Since they have tried so many methods and believe they are working out hard they cannot understand why they aren't growing. Well, they are doing something wrong or a few things wrong. Many don't eat enough, especially if they are young active guys. Everyone who gets to the intermediate stage has heaps and heaps of experience and this is why everyone is an expert in bodybuilding. Yes, it isn't that difficult to reach a stage where you look impressive and people know you lift weights. Few go beyond the intermediate level and become huge. When people fail to get bigger then blame the lack of drugs. I hear this all the time. Goodness knows how many guys have secretly tried steroids. Must be millions of fellows. Millions and millions all over the world. What do we find? Most of these guys don't get huge, either! What the!!
What seems like a simple thing to do turns out to be very difficult or a mystery. It has to be the genetics say the hapless trainees on plateaus. How would they know what it is? They don't know but don't blame their training because they have a long history in the gym and know what works for them.
The one thing that complicates everything is motion. Almost all training involves moving. When you move weights you can do it many different ways. For some strange ego reason most people cheat and try to lift heavier weights than their muscles are capable of. I see this all the time. Swinging motions on the lat pulldown. Arms out to the side on pressdowns with rope for triceps, bending and staightening knees during heel raises, and so the list goes on and on. If you are not putting mechanical tension on a target muscle it won't grow. It can't grow! This is where having a good brain helps because it does take a special brain to make muscles grow. If you haven't got that kind of brain then get someone who has to help and guide you. Once motion enters the picture things become complicated and you really can't compare programs because individuals do different things while seemingly doing the same movements.
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The vast majority of bodybuilders are not growing rapidly. When growth stops or occurs slowly bodybuilders tend to get confused and end up not knowing what to do to stimulate more growth. Since they have tried so many methods and believe they are working out hard they cannot understand why they aren't growing. Well, they are doing something wrong or a few things wrong. Many don't eat enough, especially if they are young active guys. Everyone who gets to the intermediate stage has heaps and heaps of experience and this is why everyone is an expert in bodybuilding. Yes, it isn't that difficult to reach a stage where you look impressive and people know you lift weights. Few go beyond the intermediate level and become huge. When people fail to get bigger then blame the lack of drugs. I hear this all the time. Goodness knows how many guys have secretly tried steroids. Must be millions of fellows. Millions and millions all over the world. What do we find? Most of these guys don't get huge, either! What the!!
What seems like a simple thing to do turns out to be very difficult or a mystery. It has to be the genetics say the hapless trainees on plateaus. How would they know what it is? They don't know but don't blame their training because they have a long history in the gym and know what works for them.
The one thing that complicates everything is motion. Almost all training involves moving. When you move weights you can do it many different ways. For some strange ego reason most people cheat and try to lift heavier weights than their muscles are capable of. I see this all the time. Swinging motions on the lat pulldown. Arms out to the side on pressdowns with rope for triceps, bending and staightening knees during heel raises, and so the list goes on and on. If you are not putting mechanical tension on a target muscle it won't grow. It can't grow! This is where having a good brain helps because it does take a special brain to make muscles grow. If you haven't got that kind of brain then get someone who has to help and guide you. Once motion enters the picture things become complicated and you really can't compare programs because individuals do different things while seemingly doing the same movements.
Your right, the vast majority stays inside of the intermediate stage because they do not understand systematic fatigue and how to properly use periodization. The dual factor theory is universally accepted everywhere except in the bodybuilding world.
You have guys correlating perceived effort with growth, doing all sorts of sets and reps yet unable to understand planning for progression and homeostasis disruption. In other words, guys train like shit for the most part.
You have to properly load and deload to let fatigue dissipate. Eventually, if the program allows you to progressively add weight, it will stop and you will need to taper. No taper=no progress.
When you over reach, you are done and you must deload in order to progress again. Guys have that confused with reducing the number of sets and reducing frequency to equal more progress, which does work for awhile.
Anyway, when you are over reaching or never tapering your training, you end up spinning your wheels and you eventually over train. Steroids fix this, then plateaus are overcame by simply upping the dosage and manipulating the diet. However no supplement will overcome this.
Basile, if you do not understand this concept no amount of direct tension will do anything.
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I think it is possible to stimulate hypertrophy in a muscle and sustain growth for a long time. More than a month. As long as injury is avoided it is possible to sustain rapid growth. This is completely without supplements or drugs. I have done this myself in arms and calves for a month with excellent gains. Unfortunately, I was rubbing my elbows on pads during triceps extensions and that caused the sheaths to get inflamed. I was doing ballistic heel raises with heavy resistance for high reps and sets and my Achilles tendons got inflamed. Good lessons for sure. Never place your elbows or knees on pads while training under loads or you will be sorry. Avoid ballistic movements if used regularly. They might have a place occasionally but such movements seem to accumulate damage that lead to injuries.
It seems to me that body parts can be targetted and rotated for the best method of overall growth. Bodybuilders literally have always believed you have to train muscles at least once a week to sustain size. We find that most train bodyparts twice a week. This may be too much when done with high intensity and effort for most people to benefit from especially when these are endured for long periods of time such as several months or years. People are doing too much, too hard for too long.
Lots of writers promise all manner of success and gains but the reality is somewhat different. Bodybuilding is a difficult pastime to take to the professional level drug free.
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I think it is possible to stimulate hypertrophy in a muscle and sustain growth for a long time. More than a month. As long as injury is avoided it is possible to sustain rapid growth. This is completely without supplements or drugs. I have done this myself in arms and calves for a month with excellent gains. Unfortunately, I was rubbing my elbows on pads during triceps extensions and that caused the sheaths to get inflamed. I was doing ballistic heel raises with heavy resistance for high reps and sets and my Achilles tendons got inflamed. Good lessons for sure. Never place your elbows or knees on pads while training under loads or you will be sorry. Avoid ballistic movements if used regularly. They might have a place occasionally but such movements seem to accumulate damage that lead to injuries.
It seems to me that body parts can be targetted and rotated for the best method of overall growth. Bodybuilders literally have always believed you have to train muscles at least once a week to sustain size. We find that most train bodyparts twice a week. This may be too much when done with high intensity and effort for most people to benefit from especially when these are endured for long periods of time such as several months or years. People are doing too much, too hard for too long.
Lots of writers promise all manner of success and gains but the reality is somewhat different. Bodybuilding is a difficult pastime to take to the professional level drug free.
I agree, you can not train 'high intensity' for long periods. However the term 'high intensity', as it relates to perceived effort, is not a good measurement unless you are Arthur Jones, lol.
Instead, intensity must be measured in accordance to one rep maximum as a standard, and the rep range need to be in accordance. Form needs to be good even on heavy lifts.
The main issue is the dogma, the abundant "you must do an X number of sets/reps" type of thinking that screws everyone up. Muscle stimulation can happen in one set or 5 depending on how the program is set up.
Intensity as it relates to perceived effort is a good way to force lower stimulation levels and longer recovery periods for a lot of people, thus why Mike Mentzer's program does not work for everyone. You used little volume, kept intensity as high as possible, and rested until you felt better. If it doesn't work for you, you need more stimulation to make progress and less 'effort' on each set to cut down on the level of systematic fatigue.
There needs to be some effort involved, but the amount needs to be carefully monitored or you will run into these problems.
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That is one side, here is another:
You will never remove performance enhancing drugs. As long as there is money involved, there will always be people involved that try to get apart of that, and that means new products and new drugs. The testers will never be able to keep up, so the mere invention of the drugs is guaranteed use by several athletes.
The interest just is not there in bodybuilding for them to be able to get rid of the drugs if guys are just going to end up using them anyway.
The governments of the world need to come up with safe parameters for steroid use just like they do with alcohol and other drugs. Make people get a license or certificate to use them for vanity reasons, thus you take away the problems with the majority pushing the envelope and doing dangerous shit.
It isn't like Weider called Ziegler and planned out what happened. If anything, Weider probably wants it to go back to where there were no drugs since that would make his dream of bodybuilding being universally accepted a possibility.
The problem with the drugs now is that you have to learn everything from a 'guru' that may only be focused on the end result and not the safety.
Great post about the reality and history of steroids in BB
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Australia isn't much better than America. When I arrived here in 1971 there was one Mr Australia title holder. Now I can't count how many can claim that title. Each winner of his weight class can claim it in the IFBB affiliated shows. Then there is NABBA titles. In addition are several natural organizations all having Mr Australia titles. Years ago we knew who Mr Australia was and it was a big title. Today it has diminished in prestige. Why Paul Graham stopped using that overall title only he knows. It was a bad decision as far as I am concerned. Paul does as he wishes re the IFBB in Australia. There is no responsibility and there are no elections for his position.
A pity there is no Mr America any more. That was a prized title and drug testing could have been part of the process since it was affiliated with the AAU.
It really is sad when most trainees give up on trying to find better ways to train because deep down they honestly believe it is all about drugs. When the drugs don't work they conclude they don't have the genetics! They don't blame their training methods because they believe they are experts and are already doing it the best way possible.
Vince
we did drug test the AAU Maerica and law suits over positive testing ended the contest for good, long story.
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Vince
we did drug test the AAU Maerica and law suits over positive testing ended the contest for good, long story.
You're pumping a dry well brother...he isnt capable of understanding what you're saying.
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You're pumping a dry well brother...he isnt capable of understanding what you're saying.
Oh c'mon Bob, play nice :D
Ok, on a serious note, they just busted the NFL def rookie of the yr for roids/ PED.
Obviously, no drug test is perfect but at least the major sports try to test and bust a few to keep things from getting to crazy .
LOL, in bodybuilding they seem to be going the other way.
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Vince, did the champions of your day really only take 2 dbol a day? I must say if thats true alot of those guys had some great builds and awesome genetics.
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Oh c'mon Bob, play nice :D
Ok, on a serious note, they just busted the NFL def rookie of the yr for roids/ PED.
Obviously, no drug test is perfect but at least the major sports try to test and bust a few to keep things from getting to crazy .
LOL, in bodybuilding they seem to be going the other way.
x2, Bob do you care about the athletes health, when they are practically given no choice as a pro to juice their brains out and use hgh to a unhealthy level. Do you care what their lives will be like 10 - 20 years from now? Why don't you help with new drug tests so you can have healthy ex pro bodybuilders Bob?????
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The vast majority of bodybuilders are not growing rapidly. When growth stops or occurs slowly bodybuilders tend to get confused and end up not knowing what to do to stimulate more growth. Since they have tried so many methods and believe they are working out hard they cannot understand why they aren't growing. Well, they are doing something wrong or a few things wrong. Many don't eat enough, especially if they are young active guys. Everyone who gets to the intermediate stage has heaps and heaps of experience and this is why everyone is an expert in bodybuilding. Yes, it isn't that difficult to reach a stage where you look impressive and people know you lift weights. Few go beyond the intermediate level and become huge. When people fail to get bigger then blame the lack of drugs. I hear this all the time. Goodness knows how many guys have secretly tried steroids. Must be millions of fellows. Millions and millions all over the world. What do we find? Most of these guys don't get huge, either! What the!!
What seems like a simple thing to do turns out to be very difficult or a mystery. It has to be the genetics say the hapless trainees on plateaus. How would they know what it is? They don't know but don't blame their training because they have a long history in the gym and know what works for them.
The one thing that complicates everything is motion. Almost all training involves moving. When you move weights you can do it many different ways. For some strange ego reason most people cheat and try to lift heavier weights than their muscles are capable of. I see this all the time. Swinging motions on the lat pulldown. Arms out to the side on pressdowns with rope for triceps, bending and staightening knees during heel raises, and so the list goes on and on. If you are not putting mechanical tension on a target muscle it won't grow. It can't grow! This is where having a good brain helps because it does take a special brain to make muscles grow. If you haven't got that kind of brain then get someone who has to help and guide you. Once motion enters the picture things become complicated and you really can't compare programs because individuals do different things while seemingly doing the same movements.
Everything you say around here is nothing but a bunch of floatsam, jetsam, and hypocritesam.....
Drugs may have been legal but you still needed a prescription....did you get one??? Even so, its amazing how you can talk smack about drug use in bodybuilding when you didn't give a rats ass back in 1970 when you were popping Dianabol like breath mints to win your "precious" Mr Canada Title.
You can no right to look down on today's bodybuilders for using steroids when you were using them yourself you old salt. Thanks again for sharing your load of dribble once again.
And the standards of bodybuilding shouldn't be compared to regular sports because BODYBUILDING ISN'T A SPORT.... ::)
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We don't need to canvass current professional bodybuilders to ask what should be done re drugs and injected substances. We should be debating training programs instead of whether drugs should be allowed.
The widespread use of drugs has ruined the sport at the professional level. Nothing short of a clean sweep will succeed in correcting the nonsense that goes on in the name of bodybuilding.
This is unlikely to happen so we can expect more of the same crap to continue.
I would also like to see no tanning colour, bigger posing trunks, no artificial inserts for either sex, better judges and criterion, and elected and removeable officials to run contests. Perhaps do away with all Mr and Ms titles as well.
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We don't need to canvass current professional bodybuilders to ask what should be done re drugs and injected substances. We should be debating training programs instead of whether drugs should be allowed.
The widespread use of drugs has ruined the sport at the professional level. Nothing short of a clean sweep will succeed in correcting the nonsense that goes on in the name of bodybuilding.
This is unlikely to happen so we can expect more of the same crap to continue.
I would also like to see no tanning colour, bigger posing trunks, no artificial inserts for either sex, better judges and criterion, and elected and removeable officials to run contests. Perhaps do away with all Mr and Ms titles as well.
I nominate Vince for athletes Rep to reform the IFBB. All these are super points and would bring bodybuilding mainstream again.
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In before Chick (damage control)...
Bob claims none of the IFBB bodybuilders have forwarded complaints in regards to such matters. Maybe someone like Bob is best for the position defending the organisation rather than the bodybuilders? Milos Sarcev was used as a scapegoat for those who speak against the IFBB. Let that be a warning to others. Yes, Bob no longer considers himself responsible to an IFBB bodybuilder who has been barred from the organisation for whatever reason. No representation required in that case.
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Basile = the most delusional man on this site, including Goodrum.
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The record clearly shows that Bob did nothing that helped Milos or Lee Priest get back into the IFBB. Both were given suspensions and those lasted longer than they were supposed to.
The lesson is simple: don't rock the boat. I honestly wonder what the pros really think about their appointed pro rep. What a load of crap. Appointed for life it seems because no one else will be offered that position as long as Stooge of the year, Bob C, wants it.
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The record clearly shows that Bob did nothing that helped Milos or Lee Priest get back into the IFBB. Both were given suspensions and those lasted longer than they were supposed to.
The lesson is simple: don't rock the boat. I honestly wonder what the pros really think about their appointed pro rep. What a load of crap. Appointed for life it seems because no one else will be offered that position as long as Stooge of the year, Bob C, wants it.
Vince do you think you could do a better job than Bob? Do you want his position? If not who do you suggest is right for the job?
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You can't stop steroid abuse, but you can easily stop GH and insulin abuse by penalizing the obvious bloated guts.
But the judges won't penalize the bloated GH and insulin guts because they are too busy staring at striated glutes and having a wank under the judges table. ;)
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You can't stop steroid abuse, but you can easily stop GH and insulin abuse by penalizing the obvious bloated guts.
But the judges won't penalize the bloated GH and insulin guts because they are too busy staring at striated glutes and having a wank under the judges table. ;)
It's hard to penalize it. How many points do you deduct for certain amount of distention? You could send a message by putting any bb with a really distended gut in last place. But imagine this scenario: at the 2003 Olympia Coleman is put in last place and the winner is one of lightest guys in the show with zero gut. Imagine the outcry from the fans if that had happened. Everyone cries about the guts but no one really wants to see a sub 200lb guy as O winner. And would this stop insulin and gh abuse? Use certainly wouldn't stop. I've seen male fitness competitors use and abuse steroids/insulin/gh/synthol and all the rest. Just because someone doesn't have a gut and isn't very heavy doesn't mean he isn't abusing. It's impossible to stop drug use/abuse in bb via judging criteria. Impossible to stop use/abuse via testing. Whatever problems bb has with drugs is simply unsolvable.
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It's hard to penalize it. How many points do you deduct for certain amount of distention? You could send a message by putting any bb with a really distended gut in last place. But imagine this scenario: at the 2003 Olympia Coleman is put in last place and the winner is one of lightest guys in the show with zero gut. Imagine the outcry from the fans if that had happened. Everyone cries about the guts but no one really wants to see a sub 200lb guy as O winner. And would this stop insulin and gh abuse? Use certainly wouldn't stop. I've seen male fitness competitors use and abuse steroids/insulin/gh/synthol and all the rest. Just because someone doesn't have a gut and isn't very heavy doesn't mean he isn't abusing. It's impossible to stop drug use/abuse in bb via judging criteria. Impossible to stop use/abuse via testing. Whatever problems bb has with drugs is simply unsolvable.
Hmm.. This is true up to a point, and while a perfect solution is outside our grasp, significant improvements could be made. Guts should be penalized, to what extent I'm not sure, but in the case of Coleman, dropping to 3rd or 4th, would probably be reasonable during the later years when his gut was out of control. What there should be a zero tolerance policy on is synthol use/obvious site injections. If it were up to me Vic Martienez would have been dead last in 08, with those asanine calves he was sporting. Anyone sporting weird lumps, misshapen oily muscle, etc, should be severely punished.
It wont completely fix things, but if there is no reward in offering the palumobized look, then people will start to tone down the rampant Slin/GH/Synthol abuse.
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It's hard to penalize it. How many points do you deduct for certain amount of distention? You could send a message by putting any bb with a really distended gut in last place. But imagine this scenario: at the 2003 Olympia Coleman is put in last place and the winner is one of lightest guys in the show with zero gut. Imagine the outcry from the fans if that had happened. Everyone cries about the guts but no one really wants to see a sub 200lb guy as O winner. And would this stop insulin and gh abuse? Use certainly wouldn't stop. I've seen male fitness competitors use and abuse steroids/insulin/gh/synthol and all the rest. Just because someone doesn't have a gut and isn't very heavy doesn't mean he isn't abusing. It's impossible to stop drug use/abuse in bb via judging criteria. Impossible to stop use/abuse via testing. Whatever problems bb has with drugs is simply unsolvable.
How many points to deduct? It's a beauty pageant, it's all based on subjective opinion, silly boy! And of course nobody wants to see a man with a small waist judged highly, they can't fulfill their homosexual mutant comic book sized muscle man fantasies that way! My suggestion isn't a proposal to 'solve' a problem, you're the one framing it like that.
Now if you'll excuse me I'm off to masturbate to 2003 Mr. Coleman!
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Listen to these guys talk rubbish. Get rid of the drugs and you won't be debating this question.
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How many points to deduct? It's a beauty pageant, it's all based on subjective opinion, silly boy! And of course nobody wants to see a man with a small waist judged highly, they can't fulfill their homosexual mutant comic book sized muscle man fantasies that way! My suggestion isn't a proposal to 'solve' a problem, you're the one framing it like that.
Now if you'll excuse me I'm off to masturbate to 2003 Mr. Coleman!
I'm not a homo so I don't know how they think, but since you are, was Coleman really the most homo-sexy guy at that show?
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How many points to deduct? It's a beauty pageant, it's all based on subjective opinion, silly boy! And of course nobody wants to see a man with a small waist judged highly, they can't fulfill their homosexual mutant comic book sized muscle man fantasies that way! My suggestion isn't a proposal to 'solve' a problem, you're the one framing it like that.
Now if you'll excuse me I'm off to masturbate to 2003 Mr. Coleman!
LOL. Yeah, the 'contest' is bullshit because it is so subjective. I believe this is one of the reasons bodybuilding will not be a popular sport, possibly the main reason; since it is so subjective, no real scoring can take place, thus it is unwatchable.
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Listen to these guys talk rubbish. Get rid of the drugs and you won't be debating this question.
Okay. Please humor us, if you were in charge, how would you go about ridding the sport of drugs? You make it sound so simple, tell us. Also talk about funding for the testing and please tell us how the IFBB could do a better job than the IOC/WADA has done (they have been unsuccessful to say the least).
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I'm not a homo so I don't know how they think, but since you are, was Coleman really the most homo-sexy guy at that show?
For men who idolized comic book superheroes, definitely! He totally had that unreal look like he just stepped out of the pages! Literally a fantasy come true.
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Listen to these guys talk rubbish. Get rid of the drugs and you won't be debating this question.
Vince...for a so called Doctor in Philosophy, you seem to lack even an iota of pragmatic thinking.
You know as well as anyone that drug free bodybuilding has no appeal whatsoever. You think this sub-culture dwells in obscurity now, well it will cease to exist if drugs were taken out! This is hardly a shocking or revealing truth either, rather it is common sense.
Perhaps in your ideal fantasy world, people could look like champion bodybuilders, without drugs, simply by mastering whatever obtuse theory of obtaining continual hypertrophy naturally that you have, but in reality that is never going to happen, (not to mention the impossibility of such a scenario).
So please start to offer practical solutions to the problem. Drugs cant be eradicated, but they can be toned down. If we can go back to a 70s-early 90s look. (Heavy Steroid use and not much else), then we will be in much better shape.
Bodybuilding will never be mainstream, but it can do better then it is currently.
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For men who idolized comic book superheroes, definitely! He totally had that unreal look like he just stepped out of the pages! Literally a fantasy come true.
Hmm...not being Gay I might be talking out of my ass here, but it seems to me that a Bob Paris would fit a gay sense of aesthetics/sensibilities far more then a bloated Coleman would. I suspect that tastes in fantasy men vary far more greatly in gay men then we would suspect.
Which probably explains why there is more cliquishness in Gay circles, (hence Cubs, Bears, Twinks, etc). With straight men, there is much more of a generalized standard. While different men might debate the degrees of hotness, just about every straight man will agree that someone like Angelina Jolie is hot. This same generalized standard doesn't really seem to exist in the Gay spectrum as far as I can perceive.
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Hmm.. This is true up to a point, and while a perfect solution is outside our grasp, significant improvements could be made. Guts should be penalized, to what extent I'm not sure, but in the case of Coleman, dropping to 3rd or 4th, would probably be reasonable during the later years when his gut was out of control. What there should be a zero tolerance policy on is synthol use/obvious site injections. If it were up to me Vic Martienez would have been dead last in 08, with those asanine calves he was sporting. Anyone sporting weird lumps, misshapen oily muscle, etc, should be severely punished.
It wont completely fix things, but if there is no reward in offering the palumobized look, then people will start to tone down the rampant Slin/GH/Synthol abuse.
Reason I picked the 2003 Olympia is that so many fans thought Coleman was simply superior to all the rest. Ask other pros who the best/most developed Mr O of all time was and probably most would say Coleman. Many will also say he's ugly and the gut was out of control, but regardless they will also grudgingly admit he was superior in a strict bodybuilding sense.
Regarding lumps, they punished Iris Kyle and perhaps they could do the same with the men. But so many are using site injections, and while obvious, fans seem willing to overlook it if not too distracting. Many will say Flex Wheeler in 93 was perfection, but his calves were fake, so they are willing to overlook it as long as it's not too distracting from the overall look.
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Reason I picked the 2003 Olympia is that so many fans thought Coleman was simply superior to all the rest. Ask other pros who the best/most developed Mr O of all time was and probably most would say Coleman. Many will also say he's ugly and the gut was out of control, but regardless they will also grudgingly admit he was superior in a strict bodybuilding sense.
Regarding lumps, they punished Iris Kyle and perhaps they could do the same with the men. But so many are using site injections, and while obvious, fans seem willing to overlook it if not too distracting. Many will say Flex Wheeler in 93 was perfection, but his calves were fake, so they are willing to overlook it as long as it's not too distracting from the overall look.
Well.... I can only speak for myself, but my ideal would be zero tolerance on obvious, or unseemly site injection use. Clearly site injection is mandatory as the precontest nears, because you need to rotate injection spots, and not just use the glutes, but that can be done in moderation, and need not lead to lumps/bumps etc.
In the case of Coleman.... I say he looked like shit in his last few years. I agree that his sheer mass, and relatively decent conditioning at that weight should prevent him from going too far down the ladder, but top honors can not be given to someone that far out of the aesthetic ideals of bodybuilding. Mass is simply a component, not the end all be all of judging criteria.
As for Flex in 93, yes he should have been penalized for fake calves, maybe not too far down since the rest of him was amazing that year, but in principle, he should have been out of contention for first.
I think that in Iris Kyles case...that was a good call on the part of the judges, and that should be parlayed over into the Mens side of things.
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Listen to these guys talk rubbish. Get rid of the drugs and you won't be debating this question.
yup, Vince you are standing your ground and rightly so, the fools will keep talking this regurgitated garbage, and Bob will keep denying all in an effort to keep drugs in the sport for their own entertainment and greed.
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The record clearly shows that Bob did nothing that helped Milos or Lee Priest get back into the IFBB. Both were given suspensions and those lasted longer than they were supposed to.
The lesson is simple: don't rock the boat. I honestly wonder what the pros really think about their appointed pro rep. What a load of crap. Appointed for life it seems because no one else will be offered that position as long as Stooge of the year, Bob C, wants it.
Is that what the "record" shows, ImBasile...? Or are you just talking out of your ass...again.?
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It's hard to penalize it. How many points do you deduct for certain amount of distention? You could send a message by putting any bb with a really distended gut in last place. But imagine this scenario: at the 2003 Olympia Coleman is put in last place and the winner is one of lightest guys in the show with zero gut. Imagine the outcry from the fans if that had happened. Everyone cries about the guts but no one really wants to see a sub 200lb guy as O winner. And would this stop insulin and gh abuse? Use certainly wouldn't stop. I've seen male fitness competitors use and abuse steroids/insulin/gh/synthol and all the rest. Just because someone doesn't have a gut and isn't very heavy doesn't mean he isn't abusing. It's impossible to stop drug use/abuse in bb via judging criteria. Impossible to stop use/abuse via testing. Whatever problems bb has with drugs is simply unsolvable.
GOOD POST!
If I was judging the Olympia I would put an obviously distended gut in last and a lighter man with classic lines in first.
I honestly could care less about who does what drug. I do care that those who look distorted often beat those with classic , less freaky physiques. Have the integrity to judge the thing right and drugs won't be as big a deal.
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Is that what the "record" shows, ImBasile...? Or are you just talking out of your ass...again.?
Bob,
I don't think many realize that trying to represent every IFBB bodybuilder is like trying to "herd cats".
I know you had a tough fight just trying to convince them , they didn't need the posing routine judged as part of the overall score.
I think we both AGREE that if some pro gets on stage with a huge gut or looks distorted they get placed at/near the bottom.
THAT solves the problem without dealing with drug testing or other complications.
It is a BB meet, you get placed based on how you LOOK on stage. What is in your body doesn't matter.
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Is that what the "record" shows, ImBasile...? Or are you just talking out of your ass...again.?
Chick are you willing to admit that you were way off with your prediction of Wolf and the Ny Pro? ???
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Chick are you willing to admit that you were way off with your prediction of Wolf and the Ny Pro? ???
Way off?? He was 3rd...tied for 2nd after PJ...I also said that Roelly could win it all if Toney/ Dennis were off, which they were...
You can only speculate so much...look at the NCAA bracket this year..
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Way off?? He was 3rd...tied for 2nd after PJ...I also said that Roelly could win it all if Toney/ Dennis were off, which they were...
You can only speculate so much...look at the NCAA bracket this year..
Exactly , these guys were saying he was to fat 1 week out hahaha he hit 3rd FFS .
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Exactly , these guys were saying he was to fat 1 week out hahaha he hit 3rd FFS .
Fat...never gonna make it...out of the top 5...etc...bottom line is he was flat as a pancake, trainer probably panicked and made too many adjustments too soon...needed to glide in and fill up.
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Vince do you think you could do a better job than Bob? Do you want his position? If not who do you suggest is right for the job?
Basile isn't a pro and more than likely the only thing he would do is introduce a IFBB Chilidren's Division.
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Basile isn't a pro and more than likely the only thing he would do is introduce a IFBB Chilidren's Division.
That is a cheap shot thrown by a guy who should know better.
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That is a cheap shot thrown by a guy who should know better.
He's thrown just as many cheap shots at me in this thread before I even responded. What's good for the goose is good for the gander.
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Way off?? He was 3rd...tied for 2nd after PJ...I also said that Roelly could win it all if Toney/ Dennis were off, which they were...
You can only speculate so much...look at the NCAA bracket this year..
Well it appears that he went way overboard with the diuretics, which was probably due to his not being on point with his prep. I think you were a tad generous in saying he was ready based on his one week out pictures.
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Well it appears that he went way overboard with the diuretics, which was probably due to his not being on point with his prep. I think you were a tad generous in saying he was ready based on his one week out pictures.
Basded on what I seen, I think it was more a point of not being filled out enough...nothing happened when he posed. Sometimes, despite being flst, lines still appear when flexing...not the case here.
I talked with Dennis prior to the prejudging, while I thought the program was tailored for a much smaller man, sometimes you just to wait and see....It's a mistake I made plenty of times myself...not allowing for enough time to carb up...bigger the guy, longer the process
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The vast majority of bodybuilders are not growing rapidly. When growth stops or occurs slowly bodybuilders tend to get confused and end up not knowing what to do to stimulate more growth. Since they have tried so many methods and believe they are working out hard they cannot understand why they aren't growing. Well, they are doing something wrong or a few things wrong. Many don't eat enough, especially if they are young active guys. Everyone who gets to the intermediate stage has heaps and heaps of experience and this is why everyone is an expert in bodybuilding. Yes, it isn't that difficult to reach a stage where you look impressive and people know you lift weights. Few go beyond the intermediate level and become huge. When people fail to get bigger then blame the lack of drugs. I hear this all the time. Goodness knows how many guys have secretly tried steroids. Must be millions of fellows. Millions and millions all over the world. What do we find? Most of these guys don't get huge, either! What the!!
What seems like a simple thing to do turns out to be very difficult or a mystery. It has to be the genetics say the hapless trainees on plateaus. How would they know what it is? They don't know but don't blame their training because they have a long history in the gym and know what works for them.
The one thing that complicates everything is motion. Almost all training involves moving. When you move weights you can do it many different ways. For some strange ego reason most people cheat and try to lift heavier weights than their muscles are capable of. I see this all the time. Swinging motions on the lat pulldown. Arms out to the side on pressdowns with rope for triceps, bending and staightening knees during heel raises, and so the list goes on and on. If you are not putting mechanical tension on a target muscle it won't grow. It can't grow! This is where having a good brain helps because it does take a special brain to make muscles grow. If you haven't got that kind of brain then get someone who has to help and guide you. Once motion enters the picture things become complicated and you really can't compare programs because individuals do different things while seemingly doing the same movements.
CAN SOMEONE PLEASE POST THAT PIC OF VINCE LOOKING ALL FAT, OLD, HAIRY, AND GROSS STANDING ON THE BEACH IN THAT SPEEDO.......
and this delusional is on a bodybuilding board doling out advice
you dont even register as "flotsam" vince, which is just floating debris...........you are "jetsam", which is garbage that was purposefully discarded :-\ :-\
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The one thing that complicates everything is motion. Almost all training involves moving. When you move weights you can do it many different ways. For some strange ego reason most people cheat and try to lift heavier weights than their muscles are capable of. I see this all the time. Swinging motions on the lat pulldown. Arms out to the side on pressdowns with rope for triceps, bending and staightening knees during heel raises, and so the list goes on and on. If you are not putting mechanical tension on a target muscle it won't grow. It can't grow! This is where having a good brain helps because it does take a special brain to make muscles grow. If you haven't got that kind of brain then get someone who has to help and guide you. Once motion enters the picture things become complicated and you really can't compare programs because individuals do different things while seemingly doing the same movements. [/color]
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Very true. Well said.
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Bob,
I don't think many realize that trying to represent every IFBB bodybuilder is like trying to "herd cats".
I know you had a tough fight just trying to convince them , they didn't need the posing routine judged as part of the overall score.
I think we both AGREE that is some pro gets on stage with a huge gut or looks distorted they get placed at/near the bottom.
THAT solves the problem without dealing with drug testing or other complications.
It is a BB meet, you get placed based on how you LOOK on stage. What is in your body ass doesn't matter.
Howard watch out cause Goodrum may sue you for plagiarism. He says this all the time
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Vince Basil you were there so based on what you saw and heard did the top guys of your day really only use 2 dbol a day? I'm not saying you are lying Vince I'm just curious. If this is true they must have been doing something drastically different besides the drugs than what todays guys are doing. The builds that some of those guys had on only 2 dbol a day is incredible.
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Vince Basil you were there so based on what you saw and heard did the top guys of your day really only use 2 dbol a day? I'm not saying you are lying Vince I'm just curious. If this is true they must have been doing something drastically different besides the drugs than what todays guys are doing. The builds that some of those guys had on only 2 dbol a day is incredible.
Back when I was at World's in the early 80's Dianabol was definitely popular as was Winstrol, Anavar, Primabolan Depot, Test, Deca, and a few others. I wasn't into them so I am no expert by all means but our resident pharmacist at World's who recently died had the trunk of his Rolls Royce (or was it Bugsy's Rolls) filled with whatever you want so I seen quite a bit of stuff going on. When I used to go to Tijuana and buy and then sell Primo pre-loaded was a huge seller as was Equipose. Winstrol V was popular too. I remember something like Halotestan or something like that too.
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"Herding cats" ... Very funny, Howard.
Howard, you and Bob and a few others on this board appear to have a good amount of intelligence and no vindictiveness on this board. Can you tell me how you have been involved?
I think I have met you a few times based on what you have to say sometimes, but I haven't read all your postings.
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"Herding cats" ... Very funny, Howard.
Howard, you and Bob and a few others on this board appear to have a good amount of intelligence and no vindictiveness on this board. Can you tell me how you have been involved?
I think I have met you a few times based on what you have to say sometimes, but I haven't read all your postings.
Thanks so much for the kind words.
I can't take credit for the "herding cats" term, that was taken from the title of former Sen Trent Lott's book about his years in congress.
We may have met at some pt and some expo or event? Damn, after 32 yrs in the sport I have been to more events than I can remember.
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CAN SOMEONE PLEASE POST THAT PIC OF VINCE LOOKING ALL FAT, OLD, HAIRY, AND GROSS STANDING ON THE BEACH IN THAT SPEEDO.......
and this delusional is on a bodybuilding board doling out advice
you dont even register as "flotsam" vince, which is just floating debris...........you are "jetsam", which is garbage that was purposefully discarded :-\ :-\
C'mon, Vince won the Mr Canada , 40 yrs ago in 1970!
How great are you going to look 40 yrs after your best shape. Please.....
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Back when I was at World's in the early 80's Dianabol was definitely popular as was Winstrol, Anavar, Primabolan Depot, Test, Deca, and a few others. I wasn't into them so I am no expert by all means but our resident pharmacist at World's who recently died had the trunk of his Rolls Royce (or was it Bugsy's Rolls) filled with whatever you want so I seen quite a bit of stuff going on. When I used to go to Tijuana and buy and then sell Primo pre-loaded was a huge seller as was Equipose. Winstrol V was popular too. I remember something like Halotestan or something like that too.
Casey Viator told someone on another board about the higher doses starting around 1974 or so. He was saying mentzer was on 2.5 grams of Deca a week among other things.
Keith, were you a big time user throughout your career? If not, did you choose to not use them for health reasons or because of the ethical concerns?
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Casey Viator told someone on another board about the higher doses starting around 1974 or so. He was saying mentzer was on 2.5 grams of Deca a week among other things.
Keith, were you a big time user throughout your career? If not, did you choose to not use them for health reasons or because of the ethical concerns?
I was beating people when I was clean. One guy comes up to me and asks me what I wass taking. I asked what did he mean. He said steroids. What was I taking. I told nothing. He couldn't believe I could beat guys clean. he said I needed to get on them and no one would beat me if I was that strong without them. So I asked and he said I had to take test cyp 200mg. So I did. It took me a few days to get the balls to shoot myself. I always from when I was a kid hated needles. I would ice my hip and then slap the shit out of it and then try to poke myself and always just barely go in. By the time I finally did it I had about 20 smalls holes bleeding on my hip. So I ended up taking one shot a day for 6 months straight. Nothing else. No orals. I did try a couple Anadrol 50's one time but almost overnight I saw a small pimple on my shoulder and I stopped. I have perfect smooth skin and all of a sudden I saw this and I quit. The day after my last competition I quit cold turkey and have never ever done anything since. So i have been clean since 1986. I kept most of my strength and size cause I continued to lift heavy just not everyday. In 1985 or so I inclined benched the most I have done and that was 505. The guys I trained with at that time are the strongest guys in hawaii. all of them competed. The bench and incline though are the only things I trained with them on. And I wouldn't start till they got to 315 which I used to do my first set with. And even to this day I still get my strength back very fast. Just now I have a huge gut and ass.
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I was beating people when I was clean. One guy comes up to me and asks me what I wass taking. I asked what did he mean. He said steroids. What was I taking. I told nothing. He couldn't believe I could beat guys clean. he said I needed to get on them and no one would beat me if I was that strong without them. So I asked and he said I had to take test cyp 200mg. So I did. It took me a few days to get the balls to shoot myself. I always from when I was a kid hated needles. I would ice my hip and then slap the shit out of it and then try to poke myself and always just barely go in. By the time I finally did it I had about 20 smalls holes bleeding on my hip. So I ended up taking one shot a day for 6 months straight. Nothing else. No orals. I did try a couple Anadrol 50's one time but almost overnight I saw a small pimple on my shoulder and I stopped. I have perfect smooth skin and all of a sudden I saw this and I quit. The day after my last competition I quit cold turkey and have never ever done anything since. So i have been clean since 1986. I kept most of my strength and size cause I continued to lift heavy just not everyday. In 1985 or so I inclined benched the most I have done and that was 505. The guys I trained with at that time are the strongest guys in hawaii. all of them competed. The bench and incline though are the only things I trained with them on. And I wouldn't start till they got to 315 which I used to do my first set with. And even to this day I still get my strength back very fast. Just now I have a huge gut and ass.
Keith always brings the history cool as hell. Casey still is the youngest Mr America ever.
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Vince Basil you were there so based on what you saw and heard did the top guys of your day really only use 2 dbol a day? I'm not saying you are lying Vince I'm just curious. If this is true they must have been doing something drastically different besides the drugs than what todays guys are doing. The builds that some of those guys had on only 2 dbol a day is incredible.
The only fact I know is what I took a few times. 2 Dianabol tablets for 50 days because the bottles contained 100 tablets. I have no idea what others were taking. In 1970 Dr Michael W approached me at English Bay Beach in Vancouver. This was in the summer after I had just won the Mr Canada title. We got into a great discussion about bodybuilding and he seemed to have insider knowledge about who was gay in the scene. He was gay so maybe he knew but I was a bit sceptical because he was naming just about all the top guys and also the guys who run bodybuilding, if you know what I mean. Well, I was more concerned about advice into how I could clear up my skin because I had a problem with acne. He told me to come to Los Angeles and he would supervise me. He said I could be a Mr Universe within 6 months taking Decadurabolin. Well, I hate getting injected with needles so that wasn't at all appealing. He said he would be able to clear my skin up no problem. I never accepted his offer and he never accepted my invitation to have dinner at my place with my wife. I never tried Decadurabolin or any other steroid or drug. I never spoke to him again as he seemed to lose interest for some peculiar reason! ??? ::) ;D
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Basile, why don't you answer my question. It's easy to complain all the time but harder to offer a realistic solution.
Okay. Please humor us, if you were in charge, how would you go about ridding the sport of drugs? You make it sound so simple, tell us. Also talk about funding for the testing and please tell us how the IFBB could do a better job than the IOC/WADA has done (they have been unsuccessful to say the least).
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Basile, why don't you answer my question. It's easy to complain all the time but harder to offer a realistic solution.
Because he cant...plain and simple.
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Because he cant...plain and simple.
hey chick...are you going to talk to the powers at bsn to dump wolfe and add roelly n evan to the roster?
ronnie
brandon
roelly
evan
that's lights out.
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Because he cant...plain and simple.
he can, he is tired of answering questions from people who regurgitate the same damn dead end argument because they don't want to bite the hand that feeds them and don't care about the athletes health, only their wallet.
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he can, he is tired of answering questions from people who regurgitate the same damn dead end argument because they don't want to bite the hand that feeds them and don't care about the athletes health, only their wallet.
Tired of answering questions?? He's never answered ONE....
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I was beating people when I was clean. One guy comes up to me and asks me what I wass taking. I asked what did he mean. He said steroids. What was I taking. I told nothing. He couldn't believe I could beat guys clean. he said I needed to get on them and no one would beat me if I was that strong without them. So I asked and he said I had to take test cyp 200mg. So I did. It took me a few days to get the balls to shoot myself. I always from when I was a kid hated needles. I would ice my hip and then slap the shit out of it and then try to poke myself and always just barely go in. By the time I finally did it I had about 20 smalls holes bleeding on my hip. So I ended up taking one shot a day for 6 months straight. Nothing else. No orals. I did try a couple Anadrol 50's one time but almost overnight I saw a small pimple on my shoulder and I stopped. I have perfect smooth skin and all of a sudden I saw this and I quit. The day after my last competition I quit cold turkey and have never ever done anything since. So i have been clean since 1986. I kept most of my strength and size cause I continued to lift heavy just not everyday. In 1985 or so I inclined benched the most I have done and that was 505. The guys I trained with at that time are the strongest guys in hawaii. all of them competed. The bench and incline though are the only things I trained with them on. And I wouldn't start till they got to 315 which I used to do my first set with. And even to this day I still get my strength back very fast. Just now I have a huge gut and ass.
who used the most from what you saw or heard of Keith? Is it true Benny Podda sold fake winny?
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who used the most from what you saw or heard of Keith? Is it true Benny Podda sold fake winny?
I have no idea. I didn't hang around them much. They came to the club I worked at alot though. And yes benny sold fake Winny V.
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I have no idea. I didn't hang around them much. They came to the club I worked at alot though. And yes benny sold fake Winny V.
Did anyone confront him? Did he admit he pulled a fast one, or did he act like he got scammed too?
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Did anyone confront him? Did he admit he pulled a fast one, or did he act like he got scammed too?
He moved into a cave and became a medicine man...
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Bob's career as a bodybuilder is almost over. Good luck if he gets some endorsements. He will soon be selling used cars or furniture in Florida or maybe he will send his wife back to work while he stays home. He seems to be good playing with kids.
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Bob's career as a bodybuilder is almost over. Good luck if he gets some endorsements. He will soon be selling used cars or furniture in Florida or maybe he will send his wife back to work while he stays home. He seems to be good playing with kids.
LOL
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Did anyone confront him? Did he admit he pulled a fast one, or did he act like he got scammed too?
What are you testing me. I am sure you know I did. I have mentioned it a couple times on here.
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I was beating people when I was clean. One guy comes up to me and asks me what I wass taking. I asked what did he mean. He said steroids. What was I taking. I told nothing. He couldn't believe I could beat guys clean. he said I needed to get on them and no one would beat me if I was that strong without them. So I asked and he said I had to take test cyp 200mg. So I did. It took me a few days to get the balls to shoot myself. I always from when I was a kid hated needles. I would ice my hip and then slap the shit out of it and then try to poke myself and always just barely go in. By the time I finally did it I had about 20 smalls holes bleeding on my hip. So I ended up taking one shot a day for 6 months straight. Nothing else. No orals. I did try a couple Anadrol 50's one time but almost overnight I saw a small pimple on my shoulder and I stopped. I have perfect smooth skin and all of a sudden I saw this and I quit. The day after my last competition I quit cold turkey and have never ever done anything since. So i have been clean since 1986. I kept most of my strength and size cause I continued to lift heavy just not everyday. In 1985 or so I inclined benched the most I have done and that was 505. The guys I trained with at that time are the strongest guys in hawaii. all of them competed. The bench and incline though are the only things I trained with them on. And I wouldn't start till they got to 315 which I used to do my first set with. And even to this day I still get my strength back very fast. Just now I have a huge gut and ass.
Thanks for sharing man. I was obsessed with using steroids when I found out that Arnold did in fact use them, lol. I did one cycle and gained around 30 pounds, and found that I could train 3x a day, lol. It was just too easy and I felt like I was cheating, imagine that.
Yeah, that is what I have been saying, a guy with your base/muscle memory would be back into shape in no time. I have lost 38 pounds so far since February, and I am getting back that motivation to get better than before yet I was no where near what you used to be.
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So, did anyone find out how much money B$N is paying chickster?
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So, did anyone find out how much money B$N is paying chickster?
he gets paid in empty NOxplode jugs full of change, so the amount varies each week.