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Re: Obamas' Failed Post-Presidency
« Reply #350 on: June 16, 2018, 12:38:58 PM »
2016 Presidential Election
Candidate   Party   Popular Votes

Donald J. Trump      Republican           62,980,160
Hillary R. Clinton   Democratic   65,845,063

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Re: Obamas' Failed Post-Presidency
« Reply #351 on: June 16, 2018, 05:26:49 PM »
2016 Presidential Election
Candidate   Party   Popular Votes

Donald J. Trump      Republican           62,980,160
Hillary R. Clinton   Democratic   65,845,063


Do you know how the electoral college works ?   All those votes were from la and nyc where trump never campaigned

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Re: Obamas' Failed Post-Presidency
« Reply #352 on: June 16, 2018, 05:27:46 PM »
Do you know how the electoral college works ?   All those votes were from la and nyc where trump never campaigned

I do. Did you read what the conversation was about?

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Re: Obamas' Failed Post-Presidency
« Reply #353 on: June 16, 2018, 08:09:19 PM »
I'm not saying Trump didn't win the election. I was referring to Hillary getting more votes. The Majority of the country voted for Hillary. The majority of the E.C. votes went to Trump. He won under our system. Again, when you say We can say now... you mean Trump supporters which I would expect to say that. Doesn't make it true.

Actually, the majority of the country voted for someone other than Hillary.   ;D

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Re: Obamas' Failed Post-Presidency
« Reply #354 on: June 16, 2018, 08:13:56 PM »
Actually, the majority of the country voted for someone other than Hillary.   ;D

actually, between Trump and Hillary, which is what the conversation was about... Hillary had more popular votes.

Who had the most popular votes?Trump or Hillary?

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« Reply #355 on: June 16, 2018, 11:19:51 PM »
I'm not saying Trump didn't win the election. I was referring to Hillary getting more votes. The Majority of the country voted for Hillary. The majority of the E.C. votes went to Trump. He won under our system. Again, when you say We can say now... you mean Trump supporters which I would expect to say that. Doesn't make it true.

And if the system were the other way around he would have won that too because his campaign would have been ran to that effect.

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« Reply #356 on: June 17, 2018, 06:33:02 AM »
And if the system were the other way around he would have won that too because his campaign would have been ran to that effect.

EXACTLY! Clinton is known for saying what the "people" want to hear. Her stances on subjects change election-to-election. She has no true values - besides increasing her own monetary value/power.
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Re: Obamas' Failed Post-Presidency
« Reply #357 on: June 17, 2018, 09:25:23 AM »
Cankles lost.
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Re: Obamas' Failed Post-Presidency
« Reply #358 on: June 17, 2018, 09:11:47 PM »
And if the system were the other way around he would have won that too because his campaign would have been ran to that effect.

That could be true. I can't rule it out

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« Reply #359 on: June 17, 2018, 10:22:34 PM »
And if the system were the other way around he would have won that too because his campaign would have been ran to that effect.

Good answer coach.
He clearly knew how to win the election & beat her.

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Re: Obamas' Failed Post-Presidency
« Reply #360 on: June 18, 2018, 12:13:14 PM »

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Re: Obamas' Failed Post-Presidency
« Reply #361 on: June 18, 2018, 02:45:33 PM »
actually, between Trump and Hillary, which is what the conversation was about... Hillary had more popular votes.

Who had the most popular votes?Trump or Hillary?

If you're to keep repeating this talking point, at least put it in context.  All of her popular vote spread came from California.  And there was no popular vote contest.  Did Trump even visit California?  I doubt he held any rallies there.  If there was a popular vote contest, the parties would campaign much differently. 

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« Reply #362 on: June 18, 2018, 02:55:47 PM »
If you're to keep repeating this talking point, at least put it in context.  All of her popular vote spread came from California.  And there was no popular vote contest.  Did Trump even visit California?  I doubt he held any rallies there.  If there was a popular vote contest, the parties would campaign much differently. 

Oh so there is no popular vote contest  !!
Then why are they bleating on about it, Especially if they know Exactly how the President
Will be elected.

It’s a bit of a moot point then surely.
A case of just making noise for the sake of it.

Correct me if I’m wrong,
As I’m not totally aware of your election process.

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Re: Obamas' Failed Post-Presidency
« Reply #363 on: June 18, 2018, 03:09:46 PM »
Oh so there is no popular vote contest  !!
Then why are they bleating on about it, Especially if they know Exactly how the President
Will be elected.

It’s a bit of a moot point then surely.
A case of just making noise for the sake of it.

Correct me if I’m wrong,
As I’m not totally aware of your election process.

They are talking about it because they trying to put a positive spin on Clinton getting her butt kicked by Trump.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electoral_College_(United_States)

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« Reply #364 on: June 18, 2018, 03:12:56 PM »
They are talking about it because they trying to put a positive spin on Clinton getting her butt kicked by Trump.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electoral_College_(United_States)

Clearly as I thought.

So the election is solely about the electoral college and whom they vote for ?

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« Reply #365 on: June 18, 2018, 06:24:16 PM »
And if the system were the other way around he would have won that too because his campaign would have been ran to that effect.

You don't think that logic could work both ways?  ie millions of more people in New York and California could have and would have voted and voted for Hillary had popular vote mattered.

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Re: Obamas' Failed Post-Presidency
« Reply #366 on: June 18, 2018, 08:07:36 PM »
Oh so there is no popular vote contest  !!
Then why are they bleating on about it, Especially if they know Exactly how the President
Will be elected.

It’s a bit of a moot point then surely.
A case of just making noise for the sake of it.

Correct me if I’m wrong,
As I’m not totally aware of your election process.

Ok, lets back up.. the discussion didn't start out about the election process, that is a rabbit trail that someone went down. The conversation started when you said

"Obama was an awful useless president
We can say that now - No need to wait 3yrs"

I responded with

"when you say we.. you mean Trump supporters. They are not the majority. But we will see. I am very curious as to what happens next"


 

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Re: Obamas' Failed Post-Presidency
« Reply #367 on: June 18, 2018, 11:16:26 PM »
Ok, lets back up.. the discussion didn't start out about the election process, that is a rabbit trail that someone went down. The conversation started when you said

"Obama was an awful useless president
We can say that now - No need to wait 3yrs"

I responded with

"when you say we.. you mean Trump supporters. They are not the majority. But we will see. I am very curious as to what happens next"


Ok - I see your point.

Yes she gained more public votes - They’re irrelevant in the elections Process
He gained more EC votes - And they Are The Only One’s That Matter.

 ;)

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Re: Obamas' Failed Post-Presidency
« Reply #368 on: June 19, 2018, 09:47:08 AM »
Ok - I see your point.

Yes she gained more public votes - They’re irrelevant in the elections Process
He gained more EC votes - And they Are The Only One’s That Matter.

 ;)

Except when used in the discussion we were having.  :)

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Re: Obamas' Failed Post-Presidency
« Reply #369 on: June 20, 2018, 11:16:25 AM »
Obama: Are we a nation that rips families apart?
The Hill ^ | Justin Wise - 06/20/18 | Justin Wise - 06/20/18
Posted on 6/20/2018, 1:54:06 PM by yesthatjallen

Former President Barack Obama is calling out President Trump's "zero tolerance" policy that separates families at the border, asking "are we a nation that accepts the cruelty of ripping children from their parents’ arms, or are we a nation that values families, and works to keep them together?"

"If you've been fortunate enough to have been born in America, imagine for a moment if circumstance had placed you somewhere else," Obama said in a statement on Facebook to commemorate World Refugee Day. "Imagine if you'd been born in a country where you grew up fearing for your life, and eventually the lives of your children. A place where you finally found yourself so desperate to flee persecution, violence, and suffering that you'd be willing to travel thousands of miles under cover of darkness, enduring dangerous conditions, propelled forward by that very human impulse to create for our kids a better life."

Obama later criticized the policy that has resulted in thousands of families being separated at the U.S.-Mexico border, saying that watching these families broken apart in real time poses a very simple question to Americans.

"Are we a nation that accepts the cruelty of ripping children from their parents’ arms, or are we a nation that values families, and works to keep them together? Do we look away, or do we choose to see something of ourselves and our children?"

ETC...

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Re: Obamas' Failed Post-Presidency
« Reply #370 on: June 27, 2018, 05:48:49 AM »
Barack Obama Concerned About Future of ‘International Order’ Under Donald Trump
https://truepundit.com ^ | Posted on June 26, 2018 by True Pundit Staff
Posted on 6/27/2018, 1:26:41 AM

Former President Barack Obama Privately Expresses Concerns About The Future Of The International Order Under His Successor President Donald Trump.

A New York Magazine story reveals that the former president has privately told friends that Trump’s actions in the world are part of “what worries him most.”

Obama spent two months after leaving the Oval Office traveling the globe and continues to pay close attention to international events and meets with world leaders like Justin Trudeau and Angela Merkel.

A New York Magazine story reveals that the former president has privately told friends that Trump’s actions in the world are part of “what worries him most.”

Obama spent two months after leaving the Oval Office traveling the globe and continues to pay close attention to international events and meets with world leaders like Justin Trudeau and Angela Merkel.

The forthcoming Obama Foundation is expected to be a “grand, global convening zone” according to the story, featuring “international programming.”

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Re: Obamas' Failed Post-Presidency
« Reply #371 on: June 27, 2018, 06:12:19 AM »
Except when used in the discussion we were having.  :)


Hmmm ok maybe,

Only totally irrelevant to electing the POTUS...  :)

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Re: Obamas' Failed Post-Presidency
« Reply #372 on: June 27, 2018, 11:21:34 AM »
 ;D
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« Reply #373 on: June 29, 2018, 06:04:05 AM »
;D

Democrat "Governor"  ::)

Govern what? More crime and poverty??

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Re: Obamas' Failed Post-Presidency
« Reply #374 on: June 29, 2018, 06:25:11 AM »
Jesus Christ...

“Do not wait for the perfect message, don’t wait to feel a tingle in your spine because you’re expecting politicians to be so inspiring and poetic and moving that somehow, ‘OK, I’ll get off my couch after all and go spend the 15-20 minutes it takes for me to vote,’” Obama said in his first public comments in months, which only a few reporters and no cameras were allowed in for. “Because that’s part of what happened in the last election. I heard that too much.”

I’ll be honest with you, if I have a regret during my presidency, it is that people were so focused on me and the battles we were having, particularly after we lost the House, that folks stopped paying attention up and down the ballot,” Obama said.
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