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Centopani's out of ideas.
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dumbel flies with good form
how can it not bild the chest ???
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Ask Evan?
His chest is weaker (protrudes less) than his abdominals
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I believe that Groink answered this in another thread.
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his pecs aint that bad imo,maybe cause hes smooth there so they dont look as good.
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This worked for me, big time.
didn't change anything but the workout, and my chest got visibly thicker.
People here have said it.
i thickened up my pecs after decades of training by taking the triceps and delts out of the picture.
Pec Deck. but you don't press with your elbows and forearms, i don't feel shit when i do that.
grab the bottom of the pads with your hands, flare your elbows out, and DON"T make a wide swinging motion like you normally would. keep the motion tight, the pads should never be more than a few inches in front of your chest. and just "open and close" the machine. it should be linear, not circular. Elbows out and squeeze. think more that you're pulling the handles in with your pecs, than pushing them with your arms
And I move the seat up and down....and grab different parts of the pads to hit upper and lower.
My theory is that Bad body parts are bad because biomechanically, you are set up where it's hard to get a good "feel" for them, you lose tension on the muscle, or dominant muscles take the workload.
what I try and do is figure out ways around it.
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any type of pressing movements with the exception of machine declines do absolutely nothing for chest for me
If I flat bench then the tension comes off my pecs totally at less that midpoint in the press.
All shoulders and triceps for me.
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This worked for me, big time.
didn't change anything but the workout, and my chest got visibly thicker.
People here have said it.
i thickened up my pecs after decades of training by taking the triceps and delts out of the picture.
Pec Deck. but you don't press with your elbows and forearms, i don't feel shit when i do that.
grab the bottom of the pads with your hands, flare your elbows out, and DON"T make a wide swinging motion like you normally would. keep the motion tight, the pads should never be more than a few inches in front of your chest. and just "open and close" the machine. it should be linear, not circular. Elbows out and squeeze. think more that you're pulling the handles in with your pecs, than pushing them with your arms
And I move the seat up and down....and grab different parts of the pads to hit upper and lower.
My theory is that Bad body parts are bad because biomechanically, you are set up where it's hard to get a good "feel" for them, you lose tension on the muscle, or dominant muscles take the workload.
what I try and do is figure out ways around it.
im gonna give that a shot on my next chest day,it seems pretty cool.thanks for the tips man i appreciate it
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im gonna give that a shot on my next chest day,it seems pretty cool.thanks for the tips man i appreciate it
if you have any questions on the form, and getting the groove just ask
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I am not going to claim a great chest, but I feel like db presses, dips, push-ups (regular and on rings, feet elevated and not) do so much more than stupid barbell bench presses.
If I went to a real gym, I would hit them, Groink style, and see where it got me.
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if you have any questions on the form, and getting the groove just ask
cool thanks man i will,ive always been one to change up my elbow positions and seating heights when i did pec dec,ive always tried to find that perfect position that puts the most stress on the pecs and not the delts and elbows which usually happens. im looking forward to trying your style and see how i feel,thanks again
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nothing usually
can't change your genes
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steroids
before
after
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Nice change!
But u mean...3weeks off, steroids, and then on again. Bcz that before picture is pretty much right after u ended a cycle!
lower the dose = clean. I have learned from the talk by people in the gym
Clean = cruising on 250ml...etc etc
Users dosent know anything about being clean haha.
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any type of pressing movements with the exception of machine declines do absolutely nothing for chest for me
If I flat bench then the tension comes off my pecs totally at less that midpoint in the press.
All shoulders and triceps for me.
Just a suggestion...if the tension comes off at nearly midpoint, did you ever tried half reps ?
Correct Half Rep Technique
The right way to do half reps is to do the HARD part of the movement only, then stop 1/2 way up and go back down and do another 1/2 rep in the hard part of the movement range.
For example half reps in a benchpress would be from touching your chest with the bar to 1/2 way up, then back down to touch your chest, 1/2 way back up then back to touching your chest, etc.
You always do the hard part of the movement as a half rep, this will help strengthen the weakness in that area and generally targets the main muscle you are training better.
Though an occassional workout with half reps is a nice way to mix things up, and a good way to stress the muscle if you do not feel like going ultra heavy that day.
Its from Conan Stevens website
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This worked for me, big time.
didn't change anything but the workout, and my chest got visibly thicker.
People here have said it.
i thickened up my pecs after decades of training by taking the triceps and delts out of the picture.
Pec Deck. but you don't press with your elbows and forearms, i don't feel shit when i do that.
grab the bottom of the pads with your hands, flare your elbows out, and DON"T make a wide swinging motion like you normally would. keep the motion tight, the pads should never be more than a few inches in front of your chest. and just "open and close" the machine. it should be linear, not circular. Elbows out and squeeze. think more that you're pulling the handles in with your pecs, than pushing them with your arms
And I move the seat up and down....and grab different parts of the pads to hit upper and lower.
My theory is that Bad body parts are bad because biomechanically, you are set up where it's hard to get a good "feel" for them, you lose tension on the muscle, or dominant muscles take the workload.
what I try and do is figure out ways around it.
Your theory is in my opinion absolutely right.
On Monday I will try out your version of the Pec Deck motion. Great advice, thanks.
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Nice change!
But u mean...3weeks off, steroids, and then on again. Bcz that before picture is pretty much right after u ended a cycle!
lower the dose = clean. I have learned from the talk by people in the gym
Clean = cruising on 250ml...etc etc
Users dosent know anything about being clean haha.
no that was 10 years natural
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PMMA
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Your theory is in my opinion absolutely right.
On Monday I will try out your version of the Pec Deck motion. Great advice, thanks.
Thanks
I have one for back too...killer.
but I would have to Illustrate it, no way I could explain it...LOL
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This worked for me, big time.
didn't change anything but the workout, and my chest got visibly thicker.
People here have said it.
i thickened up my pecs after decades of training by taking the triceps and delts out of the picture.
Pec Deck. but you don't press with your elbows and forearms, i don't feel shit when i do that.
grab the bottom of the pads with your hands, flare your elbows out, and DON"T make a wide swinging motion like you normally would. keep the motion tight, the pads should never be more than a few inches in front of your chest. and just "open and close" the machine. it should be linear, not circular. Elbows out and squeeze. think more that you're pulling the handles in with your pecs, than pushing them with your arms
And I move the seat up and down....and grab different parts of the pads to hit upper and lower.
My theory is that Bad body parts are bad because biomechanically, you are set up where it's hard to get a good "feel" for them, you lose tension on the muscle, or dominant muscles take the workload.
what I try and do is figure out ways around it.
Been training for around 8-9 years and grew everything but my chest. In the last year I've been able to make significant improvements and what you described is exactly how I hit the pec deck.
I see guys doing the whole stack with no warmup, but I just do around half the stack with higher reps that I make sure I can feel. It really hits every last fiber especially if you throw them in at the end. I thought I would never have a chest.
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This worked for me, big time.
didn't change anything but the workout, and my chest got visibly thicker.
People here have said it.
i thickened up my pecs after decades of training by taking the triceps and delts out of the picture.
Pec Deck. but you don't press with your elbows and forearms, i don't feel shit when i do that.
grab the bottom of the pads with your hands, flare your elbows out, and DON"T make a wide swinging motion like you normally would. keep the motion tight, the pads should never be more than a few inches in front of your chest. and just "open and close" the machine. it should be linear, not circular. Elbows out and squeeze. think more that you're pulling the handles in with your pecs, than pushing them with your arms
And I move the seat up and down....and grab different parts of the pads to hit upper and lower.
My theory is that Bad body parts are bad because biomechanically, you are set up where it's hard to get a good "feel" for them, you lose tension on the muscle, or dominant muscles take the workload.
what I try and do is figure out ways around it.
Seems you are a believer in the "mind muscle connection". It's a real thing.
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any type of pressing movements with the exception of machine declines do absolutely nothing for chest for me
If I flat bench then the tension comes off my pecs totally at less that midpoint in the press.
All shoulders and triceps for me.
I would have never guessed this based on how full your chest looks.
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I would have never guessed this based on how full your chest looks.
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I've studied your pecs in great detail and never would have come to this conclusion based on how perfectly perky and round and hard your pecs loom bro.
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My solution is preexhaustion with isolation then presses and moderate weights with higher volume. Had the same problem
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my chest is a weak point and it seems to be recovering really slow compared to my other body parts
i do like 12 sets and im SORE as hell for 3 days
i can do a lot more volume but im always thinking my chest just wont recover so why bother
i started to put an ice pack on my chest after workout, seems to help slightly
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Med-high volume. Superset, tri-sets, TUT, heavy compound at 75-90%, min recovery between sets
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Thanks
I have one for back too...killer.
but I would have to Illustrate it, no way I could explain it...LOL
Maybe you should give it a try...made me curious
I prefer training advice from real peoples experiences, not whats written over and over again in certain magazines followed by studies that are made mostly by people who dont even lift
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Implants or synthol at this point in his career for him.
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I believe that Groink answered this in another thread.
Groink should not talk about chest training, the guy has a set of female teenie tits.
He should look into which color bra suits him best on ebay.
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Maybe you should give it a try...made me curious
I prefer training advice from real peoples experiences, not whats written over and over again in certain magazines followed by studies that are made mostly by people who dont even lift
X2 speak up Groink!
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Groink should not talk about chest training, the guy has a set of female teenie tits.
He should look into which color bra suits him best on ebay.
lol
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Its been a long time now since I hit the Pec Deck.
Always thought this might work for others, not for me.
Today I did it the Groink way and I immediately felt the difference when moving in the right position.
Gonna use this in my chest routine now. Good advice, thanks.
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try pressing on a smith machine at 30 degrees....followed by some hammer strength wide grip presses......my two cents.
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try pressing on a smith machine at 30 degrees....followed by some hammer strength wide grip presses......my two cents.
Good stuff, that. I wish my gym had a HS Wide Chest thingamabob. It was always funny to watch guys use it at my old Gold's, though, with the seat set so high they were practically standing up :D
I also wish I had an old-school pec deck. Not to take away from what you're saying, Groink, but Doggcrapp used to recommend a similar movement.
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Ask Booty. She had quite the sudden chest development. I heard she only needed small shit to achieve this.
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That orange clay from a 2-ft depth
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Its been a long time now since I hit the Pec Deck.
Always thought this might work for others, not for me.
Today I did it the Groink way and I immediately felt the difference when moving in the right position.
Gonna use this in my chest routine now. Good advice, thanks.
Superset with wide grip dips (or dips in general).
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Flat dumbbell press, in all sorts of rep ranges.
Barbell press is satisfying to perform but doesn't do as much for chest.
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That orange clay from a 2-ft depth
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This worked for me, big time.
didn't change anything but the workout, and my chest got visibly thicker.
People here have said it.
i thickened up my pecs after decades of training by taking the triceps and delts out of the picture.
Pec Deck. but you don't press with your elbows and forearms, i don't feel shit when i do that.
grab the bottom of the pads with your hands, flare your elbows out, and DON"T make a wide swinging motion like you normally would. keep the motion tight, the pads should never be more than a few inches in front of your chest. and just "open and close" the machine. it should be linear, not circular. Elbows out and squeeze. think more that you're pulling the handles in with your pecs, than pushing them with your arms
And I move the seat up and down....and grab different parts of the pads to hit upper and lower.
My theory is that Bad body parts are bad because biomechanically, you are set up where it's hard to get a good "feel" for them, you lose tension on the muscle, or dominant muscles take the workload.
what I try and do is figure out ways around it.
my chest has always lagged big time, mostly cause my delts are so dominant...have to try this.