Stopped having shakes.

[MAXX]

I get what MAXX is saying.

Im 510 210 at legit 13%

Im honestly more concerned with kidney health issues associated with mega dosing protein.

Im dieting down for a vegas trip in the next coming month.

Macros are usually around 100 carbs 60 fat and the rest in protein to make 1800 calories. Usually around 200 even.

Low dose gear. If I was cutting with t3 I would bump the protein and go keto to keep my calories the same.

megadosing protein doesn't do shit to kidneys

this is a myth from steroid abusers why blame it on protein dose.

[Simple Simon]

245 around 10% right now. tall though, 6'3

still gaining though since i started to train again

when lifting weights and constantly breaking down muscle you need alot of protein to repair the tissue. this is just logic. why are we even discussing this on a bbing boarding  

So 6'3 245 at 10% and eating double the amount of protein as me.

Yet our stats are pretty much the same???

[Simple Simon]

How much were you using? I only use whey pre and post workout. And occasionally when i don't have time to cook and eat.

I was about the same level of use, once maybe twice a day.

[ESFitness]

I use shakes mainly for increased kcal count/meal replacement in the mornings.

ideally I'd say most are fine taking in 1g/lb bw from animal protein/food sources, and saving the shakes for pre, intra, and post intake (either hydro whey/casein or bcaa's)

[MAXX]

So 6'3 245 at 10% and eating double the amount of protein as me.

Yet our stats are pretty much the same???

I'm still gaining mass and strength since start.

you're undereating.

I'm maybe overeating but alteast never catabolic.

[visualizeperfection]

I'm still gaining mass and strength since start.

you're undereating.

I'm maybe overeating but alteast never catabolic.

but those doesnt explain why you guys are the same size yet he eats significantly less protein...

[Simple Simon]

I'm still gaining mass and strength since start.

you're undereating.

I'm maybe overeating but alteast never catabolic.

Since start of what?
How long have you been training?

How am I maintaining my weight if Im undereating?

[MAXX]

but those doesnt explain why you guys are the same size yet he eats significantly less protein...

no clue. people have different genes for size.

maybe he does roids. I'm natural.

[Simple Simon]

no clue. people have different genes for size.

maybe he does roids. I'm natural.

So excess protein isnt essential then??

 

PS, I think its about time we had a picture as well. 

[visualizeperfection]

no clue. people have different genes for size.

maybe he does roids. I'm natural.

bro 245 @ 10%

natural  

it must be some great protein.

is it the kind of protein that comes suspended in oil and injected intramuscular?

[claymore]

Protein shakes are G A R B A G E !!!!!

[BodyMachine]

I don't grow on multiple shakes, just my experience. I limit them to just post workout followed by a meal 45min/1h later

[bigmc]

I'm still gaining mass and strength since start.

you're undereating.

I'm maybe overeating but alteast never catabolic.

simon is about the best built guy on here

balance and size wise

its hard to argue with those results

[Simple Simon]

simon is about the best built guy on here

balance and size wise

its hard to argue with those results

Thanks for that mate.
Maxx seems to be contradicting himself now, he claims large amounts of protein are essential and then says "well maybe its down to gear or genetics"

He cant have it both ways.

[MAXX]

Thanks for that mate.
Maxx seems to be contradicting himself now, he claims large amounts of protein are essential and then says "well maybe its down to gear or genetics"

He cant have it both ways.

can. gear changes much of the equation. as you probably know. but if you take gear. your results are not that good.

you don't seem to want to learn.

[Simple Simon]

can. gear changes much of the equation. as you probably know. but if you take gear. your results are not that good.

you don't seem to want to learn.

Want to learn?
You are contradicting yourself, what am I to believe?

Is it essential to eat 300gms of protein or does it not matter if you take gear?

Oh, and I think we need a picture as well.

[MAXX]

Want to learn?
You are contradicting yourself, what am I to believe?

Is it essential to eat 300gms of protein or does it not matter if you take gear?

if you take gear you can utilize even more protein.

[Simple Simon]

if you take gear you can utilize even more protein.

Whats that got to do with it?

[Simple Simon]

Once more Maxx

Do you feel its essesntial to eat 300gms of protein a day to get results or can a 220lb man get results from 100-150gms?

[visualizeperfection]

Once more Maxx

Do you feel its essesntial to eat 300gms of protein a day to get results or can a 220lb man get results from 100-150gms?

no.

You will go suffer an instant catabolic death.

[Simple Simon]

no.

You will go suffer an instant catabolic death.

I think hes been reading too many copies of Flex magazine.

[visualizeperfection]

I think hes been reading too many copies of Flex magazine.

haha.

Thank god my my 250mg a week allows me to slack off in the protein department.

[MAXX]

I think hes been reading too many copies of Flex magazine.

flex is exaggerated alot of times but gb is also. getbig fucks with your mind. too many know-it-alls here and people trying to reinvent the wheel. that is all.

[MAXX]

haha.

Thank god my my 250mg a week allows me to slack off in the protein department.

maybe you train like a wuss so your muscle breakdown is not that great even if you take roids 

[Simple Simon]

flex is exaggerated alot of times but gb is also. getbig fucks with your mind. too many know-it-alls here and people trying to reinvent the wheel. that is all.

Its the protein companies who have tried to re-invent the wheel.
The 1gm per pound was invented by the protein companies to sell powder.
Eating 200gms a day isnt easy.

Now about that picture, just so we know you are not a bloated mess in Moms basement.