I will sum up bodybuilding

[Diesel618]

My arms are so big they look out of proportion. I always do Triceps with back and biceps with chest and have a desperate arm day and also train bicep or triceps with shoulders usually whichever one I feel like dking that day. They got so much bigger than the rest of my body that I don't even have a set arm day anymore I'll just do an arm day maybe once a month

With all due respect I find this hard to believe. Even Phil Heath still trains his arms. Im curious what your arms measure to have such a problem. And didn't you say your max bench was only 315? It seems that you would still be in the phase of building a base where you need mass everywhere. I think you're doing yourself a huge disservice by not training arms regularly.

[kevthekid]

With all due respect I find this hard to believe. Even Phil Heath still trains his arms. Im curious what your arms measure to have such a problem. And didn't you say your max bench was only 315? It seems that you would still be in the phase of building a base where you need mass everywhere. I think you're doing yourself a huge disservice by not training arms regularly.

I posted pics on other threads you can find them if you look. Also my arms are so much bigger than the rest of my body is because for the first 2 years I weightlifted, (7-8th grade) I did arms EVERY DAY not kidding I didn't even work shoulders and barely worked chest because I just wanted big arms. Towards the end of 9th grade I was still training arms 4-5x a week going heavy weight low rep one day then low weight high rep the next. That's the reason my arms are bigger and more out of proportion with the rest of my body

[Diesel618]

I posted pics on other threads you can find them if you look. Also my arms are so much bigger than the rest of my body is because for the first 2 years I weightlifted, (7-8th grade) I did arms EVERY DAY not kidding I didn't even work shoulders and barely worked chest because I just wanted big arms. Towards the end of 9th grade I was still training arms 4-5x a week going heavy weight low rep one day then low weight high rep the next. That's the reason my arms are bigger and more out of proportion with the rest of my body

I see, I will look for them. I hope my post didn't come across as attacking you in any way. I think you are probably on a higher level than me it is just odd for me to hear someone say they don't train arms because they are stubborn as shit for me!

[kevthekid]

I see, I will look for them. I hope my post didn't come across as attacking you in any way. I think you are probably on a higher level than me it is just odd for me to hear someone say they don't train arms because they are stubborn as shit for me!

No I don't take offense to it all because I understand how for a majority of people it's hard to grow your arms. For me, my shoulders and legs are the biggest pain to grow and I hit them really hard so I know the feeling of having a stubborn body part not getting bigger. All I want in life is big capped delts and big quads haha

[Diesel618]

Start pinning those delts bro trust me! And lots of dropsets on side laterals

[kevthekid]

Start pinning those delts bro trust me! And lots of dropsets on side laterals

I might start pinning delts and just deal with the pip. And I know side laterals and one arm dumb bell presses in the rep range of 15-25 is really one of the only exercises that gives me a good delt pump. I start tren on Sunday so I'll pin delts and see how it goes!

[Diesel618]

I might start pinning delts and just deal with the pip. And I know side laterals and one arm dumb bell presses in the rep range of 15-25 is really one of the only exercises that gives me a good delt pump. I start tren on Sunday so I'll pin delts and see how it goes!

Good man! Just make sure your heat the oil under hot water before you pin and the pip should subside after a couple shots. You will notice a definite cap to your delts in the days following the pin and you will get more blood in there when you train them. You're only 19? Shit dude you're gonna be an absolute monster if you keep at it!

[kevthekid]

Good man! Just make sure your heat the oil under hot water before you pin and the pip should subside after a couple shots. You will notice a definite cap to your delts in the days following the pin and you will get more blood in there when you train them. You're only 19? Shit dude you're gonna be an absolute monster if you keep at it!

Yeah I'll definitely try that! I tried delts once on my last tren cycle and the pip was so bad that I couldn't lift my arm for like 2 days so I never shot them again lol and thanks bro! I've been wanting to compete since I was a kid so I wanted to get a good base started early so I started gear at 18 so I might do one of the shows down in Miami this year if i get the chance and get over my fear of being on stage lol

[Diesel618]

Yeah I'll definitely try that! I tried delts once on my last tren cycle and the pip was so bad that I couldn't lift my arm for like 2 days so I never shot them again lol and thanks bro! I've been wanting to compete since I was a kid so I wanted to get a good base started early so I started gear at 18 so I might do one of the shows down in Miami this year if i get the chance and get over my fear of being on stage lol

same boat man I want to compete but I refuse to step on stage until I know I can be competitive. I'm 25 though so you're way ahead of me. I've got another year until I graduate school so I'll give myself a couple more years of putting on as much clean size as I can and then I'll hopefullu be able to afford GH by that point and start thinking about doing a prep.

[kevthekid]

same boat man I want to compete but I refuse to step on stage until I know I can be competitive. I'm 25 though so you're way ahead of me. I've got another year until I graduate school so I'll give myself a couple more years of putting on as much clean size as I can and then I'll hopefullu be able to afford GH by that point and start thinking about doing a prep.

yeah the only issue I have is money I'm in college too and I'm going to be supporting myself since I'm moving out of the state for college in July so it'll be hard having enough money to cover living expenses, school, gear and food but I gotta make do with what I got. I also agree with you I refuse to step on stage unless I feel like I'm 100% ready. I know of a REALLY good men's physique coach that gets all his guy in contest shape and a majority of them win 1st in their class

[Diesel618]

My plan for the next couple years is to stock up on test and tren and just rotate orals every blast. Easily the most bang for your buck. I'll keep my test around a gram to 1200 and tren between 350 and 700 and cruise on 600 mg test or so in between. Just the bread and butter.

Oh and research chem letro and cialis, and cabaser and bitiron from aurapharm.

[ritch]

My plan for the next couple years is to stock up on test and tren and just rotate orals every blast. Easily the most bang for your buck. I'll keep my test around a gram to 1200 and tren between 350 and 700 and cruise on 600 mg test or so in between. Just the bread and butter.

Oh and research chem letro and cialis, and cabaser and bitiron from aurapharm.

generous dose to cruise on.

[flinstones1]

LOL at you guys planning doses with ugl shit. Should I take 750 mg of sustanon or 500 mg? ::)umm... You really think it makes jack shit difference at the end of the day? I really doubt that  bottle of sustanon contains 250mg of sustanon lol.    Go pin an entire 3000mg bottle of test, you might get  a gram of  actual testosterone if your lucky. Bottom line unless you are running pharm grade gear you cant really say what kind of doses you've used, only doses you think you've used.

[Diesel618]

LOL at you guys planning doses with ugl shit. Should I take 750 mg of sustanon or 500 mg? ::)umm... You really think it makes jack shit difference at the end of the day? I really doubt that  bottle of sustanon contains 250mg of sustanon lol.    Go pin an entire 3000mg bottle of test, you might get  a gram of  actual testosterone if your lucky. Bottom line unless you are running pharm grade gear you cant really say what kind of doses you've used, only doses you think you've used.

thanks for setting us straight 

[Diesel618]

generous dose to cruise on.

I'm trying to get big. There is actually literature supporting TRT doses of up to 600/wk being relatively safe, but don't get me wrong I am well aware that I will be crossing the line from use to abuse but I intend to get on stage one day and with my genetics this is what it will take.

[ritch]

I'm trying to get big. There is actually literature supporting TRT doses of up to 600/wk being relatively safe, but don't get me wrong I am well aware that I will be crossing the line from use to abuse but I intend to get on stage one day and with my genetics this is what it will take.

I heard the same about 600mg being safe, but can you recover health wise using that dose from a blast is the question you need to ask yourself.

[Diesel618]

I heard the same about 600mg being safe, but can you recover health wise using that dose from a blast is the question you need to ask yourself.

Duly noted. I get bloodwork done 4X/yr and the only things that have thus far come back out of range have been liver enzymes and lipids. My hematocrit runs at the high end of normal but hes never seemed concerned about that. Even my lipid profiles have not been concerning, he just told me to start doing cardio and stop eating so much fast food. Obviously if my bloodwork comes back severely out of whack I will be taking the necessary time to let things correct themselves, but I plan to take my body to its absolute limit for the next 10-15 years.

[equipoise]

Duly noted. I get bloodwork done 4X/yr and the only things that have thus far come back out of range have been liver enzymes and lipids. My hematocrit runs at the high end of normal but hes never seemed concerned about that. Even my lipid profiles have not been concerning, he just told me to start doing cardio and stop eating so much fast food. Obviously if my bloodwork comes back severely out of whack I will be taking the necessary time to let things correct themselves, but I plan to take my body to its absolute limit for the next 10-15 years.

Liver enzymes might just be from exercise. I get slightly elevated AST and ALT even when completely natural (mostly because I usually do bloods 1 or 2 days after traiing)

[spiro]

LOL at you guys planning doses with ugl shit. Should I take 750 mg of sustanon or 500 mg? ::)umm... You really think it makes jack shit difference at the end of the day? I really doubt that  bottle of sustanon contains 250mg of sustanon lol.    Go pin an entire 3000mg bottle of test, you might get  a gram of  actual testosterone if your lucky. Bottom line unless you are running pharm grade gear you cant really say what kind of doses you've used, only doses you think you've used.

I think switching to shorter ester can help eliminate this problem. I need a lot less test ace or prop to get the look I want compared to the longer ester tests from ugls. I think it's prob going to be a lot more accurately dosed. I switched to test ace recently and the fullness with 3-4 ccs is right there with the amount of sustanon I was using.

[ritch]

Duly noted. I get bloodwork done 4X/yr and the only things that have thus far come back out of range have been liver enzymes and lipids. My hematocrit runs at the high end of normal but hes never seemed concerned about that. Even my lipid profiles have not been concerning, he just told me to start doing cardio and stop eating so much fast food. Obviously if my bloodwork comes back severely out of whack I will be taking the necessary time to let things correct themselves, but I plan to take my body to its absolute limit for the next 10-15 years.

Wow, 4x's a year for blood work is really good!

Post workout cardio for just 10 min in the 120-130bpm range can help you out. Right after my last set I quickly head to the treadmill and pretty much start in my target range or get there quickly.

[ritch]

LOL at you guys planning doses with ugl shit. Should I take 750 mg of sustanon or 500 mg? ::)umm... You really think it makes jack shit difference at the end of the day? I really doubt that  bottle of sustanon contains 250mg of sustanon lol.    Go pin an entire 3000mg bottle of test, you might get  a gram of  actual testosterone if your lucky. Bottom line unless you are running pharm grade gear you cant really say what kind of doses you've used, only doses you think you've used.

Too bad the UG scene blows in your area. It's not fuckin' notch in Canada.

[OTHstrong]

Well my training partners r fuck tards when it comes to taking photos for that purpose lol mega dosed to gain 10 lbs nah man I just raise my calories up I am not eating enough for fear of gaining fat right now I could get up there not  same bodyfat though. I won't mega dose I have no need ide try gh just to see what it would do here im bloated up from a bad eating event

great fucken physique man. Not many who are over 6 feet can pull off a front double like you.

[pestosterone]

great fucken physique man. Not many who are over 6 feet can pull off a front double like you.

Thank u sir.

[pestosterone]

I believe the hammer curls have helped my arms improve most in the last year they were way fuxking worse believe me. So basically I do arms every day at the gym at least 6 sets for a bi and tri some times just to pump them up. And I'll hit them harder on an arms only day or seperate them on like back or shoulder or chest day it's slowly improving and always changing shit now so Mayb I can fill out my damn 6ft wing span

[OTHstrong]

I believe the hammer curls have helped my arms improve most in the last year they were way fuxking worse believe me. So basically I do arms every day at the gym at least 6 sets for a bi and tri some times just to pump them up. And I'll hit them harder on an arms only day or seperate them on like back or shoulder or chest day it's slowly improving and always changing shit now so Mayb I can fill out my damn 6ft wing span

good stuff but you also have a small midsection as well