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Title: your experience with liars ( pathological ?)
Post by: Jovo on February 03, 2013, 06:43:14 AM
What is getbig's experience with people who lie alot, lie about big and little things, make up stories about them selves and are just inconsistent about EVERYthing they say. I unfortunately know a character like this, lies about everything, just simply bullshits and makes up stories on the spot and they are always changing... i dont understand these people, can the wise men of get big share their knowledge and experience ??

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Post by: _bruce_ on February 03, 2013, 06:47:16 AM
It's like drugs - once you're hooked... lies keep flying.
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Post by: mass243 on February 03, 2013, 06:49:33 AM

The weirdest thing is, most of the time there really is no reason to lie in the first place for these kind of persons.
It's like they even can't speak truth.
Title: Re: your experience with liars ( pathological ?)
Post by: galain on February 03, 2013, 06:53:08 AM
I never saw it.

I really thought I would have been able to tell, but it was only after the fact that I was able to connect all the dots.

The guy was a good friend of mine who had a drug problem I didn't know about. He left Australia and went back to Scotland leaving a mountain of debt, a wife, a baby son and lots of very confused friends.

He was a highly paid executive and the only thing I ever wondered about, was why he was driving a Toyota Corolla (which he did upgrade) and why was he renting a house, but I figured it was none of my business to ask. His housing concerns were his business not mine.

All the other weirdness he did to hide his tracks I just accepted blindly because he was a friend.

That was about 12 years ago and I'm still surprised he fooled so many people so close to him but I guess when you want to believe someone you will.
Title: Re: your experience with liars ( pathological ?)
Post by: Jovo on February 03, 2013, 06:54:29 AM
The weirdest thing is, most of the time there really is no reason to lie in the first place for these kind of persons.
It's like they even can't speak truth.

exactly. lies for no fucking reason. I dont ask him anything and he talks lies to me, seriously it is pissing me off.

I mean i understand that at times you need to lie , but that isn't usually out of no where, i mean if someone on the street asked you if you rack coke then you can justify lying, since this person is being rude and asking something that has nothing to do with him, but if you lie about EVERY little thing, i dont know and dont understand simply put, it blows my mind.
Title: Re: your experience with liars ( pathological ?)
Post by: True Amateur on February 03, 2013, 06:57:10 AM
Interrogation 101: you have to ask YOURSELF why this person feels he can lie to you and you'll believe the lies. You lack LEVERAGE. Develop a quiet demeanor and a pair of eyes that see right through people. When he lies again, put on a poker face and focus your eyes at the space between his eyes and do not blink. He will become nervous and fidgety. Then, after holding this gaze for another uncomfortable moment, you raise the corners of your mouth into a faint smile. You will let him know that you are a human lie detector. Then proceed gathering info from the subject.

Right now he simply doesn't respect you.
Title: Re: your experience with liars ( pathological ?)
Post by: Jovo on February 03, 2013, 07:04:49 AM
Interrogation 101: you have to ask YOURSELF why this person feels he can lie to you and you'll believe the lies. You lack LEVERAGE. Develop a quiet demeanor and a pair of eyes that see right through people. When he lies again, put on a poker face and focus your eyes at the space between his eyes and do not blink. He will become nervous and fidgety. Then, after holding this gaze for another uncomfortable moment, you raise the corners of your mouth into a faint smile. You will let him know that you are a human lie detector. Then proceed gathering info from the subject.

Right now he simply doesn't respect you.

good post, i will try this out tommorow.

And yes, i find this really disrespectful that this guy thinks he is fooling me, im def. not a genius but i have enough brains to get around on my own and i noticed this guy lying from the start, in all honesty i want to call him out on it, but i can't for a certain reason ( currently)
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Post by: anabolichalo on February 03, 2013, 07:05:28 AM
an ex colleague of mine used to make up the most ridiculous self glorifying stories

he was the laughing stock of the company

dumb prick
Title: Re: your experience with liars ( pathological ?)
Post by: Nirvana on February 03, 2013, 07:20:47 AM
First off, if there's anyone on getbig who tells these lies, just know that IRL. WE KNOW YOU'RE LYING,,,,!

Dumbass.


Now, with my experience its usually people with adhd. Emphasis on the "h".  "H" does not stand for hyperactive, it means pathological, compulsive liar.
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Post by: D.O.U.P on February 03, 2013, 07:59:44 AM
Good topic.

I've been around people that CONSTANTLY LIE, I usually expose it right in there face and not in nice way ;D It's best to make them understand that you DO NOT ACCEPT THE CRAP THEY ARE SLINGING. Sometimes I LAUGH, other times confrontational.

Why do they they fucking lie?

Lying is COMFORTABLE TO THEM. It's a SICK HABIT.

Make it CLEAR to them that YOU AREN'T A CHUMP.

It won't make them STOP LYING but it WILL MAKE YOU FEEL BETTER ;D
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Post by: godeep on February 03, 2013, 08:31:49 AM
My brother in law is one and has been since he was a child.

Our end of the family finally reached our limit for his bullshit and cut him off. Fuck him.
Title: Re: your experience with liars ( pathological ?)
Post by: ether on February 03, 2013, 08:41:05 AM
(http://www.davepalumbo.com/STOREV2/images/rxtbig.png)
Title: Re: your experience with liars ( pathological ?)
Post by: SF1900 on February 03, 2013, 08:50:31 AM
I was friends with 2 brothers who were notoriously for lying. Everything that came out of their mouth was a lie. I didn't see them for a good 5 months, and when I finally saw them, one of the brothers told me he spent the last 5 months in the armed forces as a navy seal and was fighting in one of the middle eastern wars. Previously to that, he had no military training. I didn't know one could enlist, become a navy seal, and be shipped off all in a matter of 5 months.  ::) ::)

I have not talked to these brothers in a good 5 years. Cut off all contact. Eventually there lies got old and I did not want to deal with it any more.
Title: Re: your experience with liars ( pathological ?)
Post by: NotSure on February 03, 2013, 08:56:15 AM
What is getbig's experience with people who lie alot, lie about big and little things, make up stories about them selves and are just inconsistent about EVERYthing they say. I unfortunately know a character like this, lies about everything, just simply bullshits and makes up stories on the spot and they are always changing... i dont understand these people, can the wise men of get big share their knowledge and experience ??


Your mom lies to you and your daddy all the time when she says she is faithful and loyal to the family.
Title: Re: your experience with liars ( pathological ?)
Post by: The True Adonis on February 03, 2013, 09:00:53 AM
good post, i will try this out tommorow.

And yes, i find this really disrespectful that this guy thinks he is fooling me, im def. not a genius but i have enough brains to get around on my own and i noticed this guy lying from the start, in all honesty i want to call him out on it, but i can't for a certain reason ( currently)
You can`t call him on it because you don`t want to make him feel uncomfortable/embarrassed and you don`t want to be viewed as a threat and feel embarrassed yourself for doing so-therefore nobody says anything and it continues as if it were all true.  This is part of the reason how religion and the power of suggestion work.  
Title: Re: your experience with liars ( pathological ?)
Post by: local hero on February 03, 2013, 09:03:06 AM
i had an apprentice that lived his whole life in a dream world, he even lied about his age, creepy fucker!
Title: Re: your experience with liars ( pathological ?)
Post by: jon cole on February 03, 2013, 09:06:11 AM
Im a cop, that Job make me paranoid, i trust no one
Title: Re: your experience with liars ( pathological ?)
Post by: Henda on February 03, 2013, 09:49:04 AM
I seem to attract these type of fucking idiots, I have heared some of the most outragous lies that it defies belief that they even expect anyone to believe them.
A few of them ive heard over time.

Bloke said that he banged the back of his head so hard both eyeballs fell out, and he walked to the doctors holding them up on the palms of his hands so he could see and the doctor put them back in.

One twat we used to drink with came in one saturday and said a plane had just crashed in the field behind the bus stop he was waiting in.

Another was walking across a field aproaching a duck pond and a duck took off and he was so fast he took his boot off and threw it hitting the duck and killing it.

There is a woman who is prob most hated woman in town has been tellin anyone who will listen that she has cancer for the last 10 years.

Fucking morons
Title: Re: your experience with liars ( pathological ?)
Post by: B_B_C on February 03, 2013, 09:51:32 AM
What is getbig's experience with people who lie alot, lie about big and little things, make up stories about them selves and are just inconsistent about EVERYthing they say. I unfortunately know a character like this, lies about everything, just simply bullshits and makes up stories on the spot and they are always changing... i dont understand these people, can the wise men of get big share their knowledge and experience ??



are you telling us the truth here?
Title: Re: your experience with liars ( pathological ?)
Post by: Jon Harridan on February 03, 2013, 09:53:32 AM
are you telling us the truth here?

There are lots of liars in government too.
Title: Re: your experience with liars ( pathological ?)
Post by: Method101 on February 03, 2013, 10:19:22 AM
This man says he's natural for life, is he a liar?

(http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/images/2007/natlifelayne2.jpg)
Title: Re: your experience with liars ( pathological ?)
Post by: anabolichalo on February 03, 2013, 10:24:00 AM
This man says he's natural for life, is he a liar?

(http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/images/2007/natlifelayne2.jpg)
juiced to the gils
Title: Re: your experience with liars ( pathological ?)
Post by: ukjeff on February 03, 2013, 10:25:59 AM
would you like to post a photo of what you believe is the best possible body built naturally.
Title: Re: your experience with liars ( pathological ?)
Post by: tommywishbone on February 03, 2013, 10:34:26 AM
The weirdest thing is, most of the time there really is no reason to lie in the first place for these kind of persons.
It's like they even can't speak truth.

   ^
this
Title: Re: your experience with liars ( pathological ?)
Post by: thebrink on February 03, 2013, 11:32:29 AM
mentally incompetent sociopaths.
Title: Re: your experience with liars ( pathological ?)
Post by: BikiniSlut on February 03, 2013, 11:58:54 AM
Bethany Howlett Carter.  :D
Title: Re: your experience with liars ( pathological ?)
Post by: Jon Harridan on February 03, 2013, 12:32:04 PM
thread should be called "experience with all women"

Men often lie too.
Title: Re: your experience with liars ( pathological ?)
Post by: BikiniSlut on February 03, 2013, 12:33:45 PM
Men often lie too.

I'd say men lie more in all honesty.
Title: Re: your experience with liars ( pathological ?)
Post by: MikMaq on February 03, 2013, 12:53:44 PM
There is a big difference between a liar, a bullshiter and a delusional person.

A bullshitter seems to be what your describing, and I wouldn't even call it lieing, it's called being an entertaining character, as only the stupidest of people fall for it.


What's far more difficult to discern is a person thats lies versus a person that is delusional. The line is typically paper thin, and it really takes good detective work to discover the difference.

Our whole society is dependent on delusions and lies.

It's pretty much a sign one in mentally alright, one that lacks delusions or is too honest will likely suffer from clinical depression, or some anti social behavior issue.

When you have aspergers, lies and delusions become measure of a persons character.



Title: Re: your experience with liars ( pathological ?)
Post by: Marty Champions on February 03, 2013, 01:40:31 PM
would you like to post a photo of what you believe is the best possible body built naturally.
that would be me at my peak
Title: Re: your experience with liars ( pathological ?)
Post by: funk51 on February 03, 2013, 01:44:23 PM
What is getbig's experience with people who lie alot, lie about big and little things, make up stories about them selves and are just inconsistent about EVERYthing they say. I unfortunately know a character like this, lies about everything, just simply bullshits and makes up stories on the spot and they are always changing... i dont understand these people, can the wise men of get big share their knowledge and experience ??


i had a wife like that, keyword HAD.
Title: Re: your experience with liars ( pathological ?)
Post by: Jon Harridan on February 03, 2013, 02:02:02 PM
that would be me at my peak

Oh really.
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Post by: Mjolnir on February 03, 2013, 02:05:43 PM
Interesting topic.  I have found that most people who lie about what they've done or embellish events or have huge ego's are the ones who feel inadequate abut themselves and very insecure, these people never feel good eneough so they talk about themselves a lot and exaggerate everything in the hope that other people will think they are confident and secure.  These people are to be pitied simply because they dislike themselves and that's not an attractive trait.  You just need to distinguish these people from the ones who lie to cover up wrongdoing such as crime, affairs or to take advanage of you.  Decide where the liar fits and either pity them or get right away from them altogether.
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Post by: Thespritz0 on February 03, 2013, 03:08:58 PM
Bethany Howlett Carter.  :D
^^
I wonder what she's up to these days, she can't be looking good by now (2013)...
Title: Re: your experience with liars ( pathological ?)
Post by: Jovo on February 03, 2013, 03:09:31 PM

When you have aspergers, lies and delusions become measure of a persons character.



sounds more like something that any mature person with their head straight does..... but if you want to call it "aspergers" , go ahead
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Post by: arce1988 on February 03, 2013, 04:03:38 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: your experience with liars ( pathological ?)
Post by: Griffith on February 03, 2013, 04:12:37 PM
6% of the population are apparently sociopaths.

It's creepy when you meet these people in real life and realise that they really do exist.

They feel zero remorse, everything is somehow justified, they are always right.
They are extremely narcissistic and live in their own created world of complete self-delusion and often it is even strong enough to convince others too.

Their brains function differently, they can be dangerous.

If coupled with charm and charisma, they are extremely dangerous.

They are manipulative and genuinely enjoy seeing suffering in others.
Outwardly they will be your best friend and cultivate an image of being good/sweet/caring but this merely a smoke-screen for them to hide behind in order to hurt people even worse.

This is how they get their kicks, they like to see suffering in others.

Avoid at all cost.
Title: Re: your experience with liars ( pathological ?)
Post by: thebrink on February 03, 2013, 04:20:24 PM
6% of the population are apparently sociopaths.

It's creepy when you meet these people in real life and realise that they really do exist.

They feel zero remorse, everything is somehow justified, they are always right.
They are extremely narcissistic and live in their own created world of complete self-delusion and often it is even strong enough to convince others too.

Their brains function differently, they can be dangerous.

If coupled with charm and charisma, they are extremely dangerous.

They are manipulative and genuinely enjoy seeing suffering in others.
Outwardly they will be your best friend and cultivate an image of being good/sweet/caring but this merely a smoke-screen for them to hide behind in order to hurt people even worse.

This is how they get their kicks, they like to see suffering in others.

Avoid at all cost.

you are confusing the sociopath with the super dangerous psychopath. socio's are everywhere and aren't nearly as sophisticated as you are saying.
Title: Re: your experience with liars ( pathological ?)
Post by: MikMaq on February 03, 2013, 04:28:20 PM
The whole sociopath thing is exaggerated.


Narcissitic, delusional, or self absorbed people are all just as bad.
Title: Re: your experience with liars ( pathological ?)
Post by: thebrink on February 03, 2013, 04:32:02 PM
The whole sociopath thing is exaggerated.


Narcissitic, delusional, or self absorbed people are all just as bad.

X2

they really aren't that bad, usually fuck ups in life..
psychopaths tho are ruthless, and super dangerous.
Title: Re: your experience with liars ( pathological ?)
Post by: Tapeworm on February 03, 2013, 05:01:53 PM
I knew a guy like this.  One day I was out the front of my house moving my 600lb boulder around and waiting for my monthly $2000 sushi grade fish delivery and I asked him if he knew anything about who shot out my windshield.  He denied it so I reminded him that it took an entire SWAT team to make me 3 minutes late walking home from the bar because I'm a security dog snapping polymath who eats just one plate of Jamaican food every third day, and if he didn't fess up I'd deadlift him 112 times.
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Post by: kh300 on February 03, 2013, 06:37:38 PM
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Post by: doison on February 03, 2013, 07:54:46 PM
I knew a guy like this.  One day I was out the front of my house moving my 600lb boulder around and waiting for my monthly $2000 sushi grade fish delivery and I asked him if he knew anything about who shot out my windshield.  He denied it so I reminded him that it took an entire SWAT team to make me 3 minutes late walking home from the bar because I'm a security dog snapping polymath who eats just one plate of Jamaican food every third day, and if he didn't fess up I'd deadlift him 112 times.

I think I got every reference. lol
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Post by: Voice of Doom on February 03, 2013, 08:11:37 PM
I reduce the problem by being around humans as little as possible.
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Post by: Maddy on February 03, 2013, 08:40:29 PM
I knew a guy like this.  One day I was out the front of my house moving my 600lb boulder around and waiting for my monthly $2000 sushi grade fish delivery and I asked him if he knew anything about who shot out my windshield.  He denied it so I reminded him that it took an entire SWAT team to make me 3 minutes late walking home from the bar because I'm a security dog snapping polymath who eats just one plate of Jamaican food every third day, and if he didn't fess up I'd deadlift him 112 times.

bravo
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Post by: Coach is Back! on February 03, 2013, 10:48:59 PM
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Title: Re: your experience with liars ( pathological ?)
Post by: Jon Harridan on February 03, 2013, 10:49:29 PM
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Goebbels was the master of the lie.
Title: Re: your experience with liars ( pathological ?)
Post by: Bad Boy Dazza on February 03, 2013, 11:19:08 PM
I knew one in high school - he also broke into my friends home and stole his mom's panties.  We called him "psycho".

My next door neighbour is one - would not trust him as far as I could kick him, IN ANY WAY.  His overall nature is also disgusting.



What is getbig's experience with people who lie alot, lie about big and little things, make up stories about them selves and are just inconsistent about EVERYthing they say. I unfortunately know a character like this, lies about everything, just simply bullshits and makes up stories on the spot and they are always changing... i dont understand these people, can the wise men of get big share their knowledge and experience ??


Title: Re: your experience with liars ( pathological ?)
Post by: muscularny on February 04, 2013, 03:29:46 AM
ever look thru people you know facebook pages, i mean its a lie from A-Z
Title: Re: your experience with liars ( pathological ?)
Post by: Griffith on February 04, 2013, 03:46:58 AM
ever look thru people you know facebook pages, i mean its a lie from A-Z

That's true.

The whole social media thing is fueling a new type of narcissistic personality disorder.
Title: Re: your experience with liars ( pathological ?)
Post by: Griffith on February 04, 2013, 03:54:25 AM
you are confusing the sociopath with the super dangerous psychopath. socio's are everywhere and aren't nearly as sophisticated as you are saying.

I don't think I'm exaggerating or mistaken here.
A sociopath is generally a more manipulative version we see more in everyday life but not a killer like a psychopath.

I've dealt with one of these people relatively recently, this particular person is even quite popular.

Everything they do is an act for a reason. They're constantly acting.
Title: Re: your experience with liars ( pathological ?)
Post by: D.O.U.P on February 04, 2013, 04:56:51 AM
6% of the population are apparently sociopaths.

It's creepy when you meet these people in real life and realise that they really do exist.

They feel zero remorse, everything is somehow justified, they are always right.
They are extremely narcissistic and live in their own created world of complete self-delusion and often it is even strong enough to convince others too.

Their brains function differently, they can be dangerous.

If coupled with charm and charisma, they are extremely dangerous.

They are manipulative and genuinely enjoy seeing suffering in others.
Outwardly they will be your best friend and cultivate an image of being good/sweet/caring but this merely a smoke-screen for them to hide behind in order to hurt people even worse.

This is how they get their kicks, they like to see suffering in others.

Avoid at all cost.

spot-fucking-on.
Title: Re: your experience with liars ( pathological ?)
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on February 04, 2013, 05:05:32 AM
i strongly hate such people and i enjoy exposing them infront of as many ppl as possible.

often, its drug users who act like that.

or whatever, i dont care why they do it but i dont let them get away with that.

one guy i know is the worst liar walking earth, ill post some hillarious stories later.

does this include steroids?
Title: Re: your experience with liars ( pathological ?)
Post by: CalvinH on February 04, 2013, 05:51:31 AM
I didn't know to many until I joined Get Big.
Title: Re: your experience with liars ( pathological ?)
Post by: Jon Harridan on February 04, 2013, 06:07:10 AM
is Jon Harriden one of them pathological liers or is he just a fat git afraid of oral ?

There's nobody named 'Jon Harriden' nor are there 'liers'. ::)
Title: Re: your experience with liars ( pathological ?)
Post by: LurkerNoMore on February 04, 2013, 06:11:34 AM
There are two base reasons people lie.

1 - They are trying to gain something.
2 - They are afraid of losing something.
Title: Re: your experience with liars ( pathological ?)
Post by: thebrink on February 04, 2013, 08:32:55 AM
I don't think I'm exaggerating or mistaken here.
A sociopath is generally a more manipulative version we see more in everyday life but not a killer like a psychopath.

I've dealt with one of these people relatively recently, this particular person is even quite popular.

Everything they do is an act for a reason. They're constantly acting.

sociopaths just really aren't all that complicated, and may not always be that smart. sure they manipulate a little but anyone who can read people can spot them pretty quick. the main difference is you can spot a sociopath, a psychopath you cannot.

the versions the media shows on TV like hannibal are rare, the real psychopaths are in politics or military and they don't always 'kill', but they can methodically destroy people's lives and not lose sleep over it. dont fear the socio.