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Trump Says He Will Run for President
NewsMax ^ | 3 January 2011 | Ronald Kessler
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Billionaire Donald Trump is telling friends he has decided he will definitely run for president as a Republican.
Trump will make the announcement when his NBC show "The Apprentice" finishes the season in the spring, he is confiding. He has been soliciting recommendations on political advisers, focusing initially on the Iowa caucus and New Hampshire primary. Trump declined to comment.
... But Trump has told friends he believes Obama is a "disaster." An advocate of a strong national security, he becomes livid when he talks about the decline of America compared with other countries like China.
“I look at the jobs numbers, and I see what’s going on in China, where it’s booming," Trump said on Fox News. "You know why it’s booming? Because they’re making all our products.They’re taking all our jobs. We are rebuilding China, and our country is going to hell.”
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I would easily vote for Trump over Obama.
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You'd vote for the same guy who's in bed with the people who put us in this mess?
You are retarded.
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You'd vote for the same guy who's in bed with the people who put us in this mess?
You are retarded.
Trump is not a wall streeter.
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Great Clip.
Trump has balls.
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Obama would be left in tears in a debate with Trump on China, Opec, Iran, and mooslim terrorists.
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Trump Says He Will Run for President
NewsMax ^ | 3 January 2011 | Ronald Kessler
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Billionaire Donald Trump is telling friends he has decided he will definitely run for president as a Republican.
Trump will make the announcement when his NBC show "The Apprentice" finishes the season in the spring, he is confiding. He has been soliciting recommendations on political advisers, focusing initially on the Iowa caucus and New Hampshire primary. Trump declined to comment.
... But Trump has told friends he believes Obama is a "disaster." An advocate of a strong national security, he becomes livid when he talks about the decline of America compared with other countries like China.
“I look at the jobs numbers, and I see what’s going on in China, where it’s booming," Trump said on Fox News. "You know why it’s booming? Because they’re making all our products.They’re taking all our jobs. We are rebuilding China, and our country is going to hell.”
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I would easily vote for Trump over Obama.
Newsmax :D :D :D :D :D :D :D your just as well to get your news from weekly world news, hell fox news did :D :D :D
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What is anything I hve posted do you disagree with Trump on?
Jobs?
Opec?
China?
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him running
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him running
Why?
Obama is making the situation with Opec, jobs, and China,worse.
Isnt that more important than obama himself?
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Great Clip.
Trump has balls.
He makes good points there...However, Obama sounded real good before he got elected and what happend...I heard obama say we need to bring jobs back to the united states, etc..We all know how that turned out.
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Differencew is trump has real experience.
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*yawn*
The blowhard pretends he might run every four years. This shit has been going on since the mid 90's. It helps keep his name out there and maintains his celebrity status.
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I wouldn't vote for a guy who had to File Bankruptcy of Trump Enterprises THREE TIMES!!!
Are you insane?
You think he's better with money than anyone else?
You're drinking the kool-aid.
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Well, the USA is probably headed for bankruptcy.
Trump would be the guy for that!
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Compared to Obama, I would trust madoff as potus before another 4 years of this joke.
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Compared to Obama, I would trust madoff as potus before another 4 years of this joke.
Please tell me there's some tongue in cheek here.
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Please tell me there's some tongue in cheek here.
Absolutely not - Obama is worse than madoff in fact.
www.usdebtclock.org
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Absolutely not - Obama is worse than madoff in fact.
www.usdebtclock.org
Come on man... Most of that debt was racked up before him.... In 2000, our debt was 5 trillion and according to your site, 9 trillion was by this day in 2008.
You know, before him... So yes, he racked up some debt, but it was easily 10 Trillion by the time he took office (700 Billion in TARP assured that)
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Its not only the debt, it his entire policy agenda which is meant to intentionally collapse the nation.
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Its not only the debt, it his entire policy agenda which is meant to intentionally collapse the nation.
Truly I can not believe you actually believe this... It's just ridiculous.
If the US collapses, so does he and so does his wealth... This is like the crazy liberals who blame Arnold for the problems in California... Un-fucking-believable.
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trump is very entertaining. I read two of his books when i was younger. Art of the Deal, and another one. I like trump a lot.
But he's a media star. He's howard stern-ish. He's doing what he can to keep his Apprentice show at its highest value.
I think we can find some businessman to run for president who hasn't declared bankruptcy so many times. Huntsman 2012!
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1. Intentionally trying to drive up energy prices. What will that do?
2. Driving up debt to support unsustainable spending resulting in devaluation of currency. What will that do?
3. Massive health care increases of middle class people via obamacare - what will that do?
4. Said he wants to "transform" the nation. Into what?
5. Said that it is not fair the USA middle class has so much if the rest of the world says so. What does that mean?
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1. Intentionally trying to drive up energy prices. What will that do?
Cause us to look elsewhere for sustainable energy models... but I agree it will cause too much inflation and is bad.
2. Driving up debt to support unsustainable spending resulting in devaluation of currency. What will that do?
Worked for Reagan didn't it?
3. Massive health care increases of middle class people via obamacare - what will that do?
I haven't seen this "increase" yet and to be honest most people haven't... the people that have should be mad at the insurance companies for jacking rates for what has yet to be seen as no reason.
4. Said he wants to "transform" the nation. Into what?
Don't know... probably more haves than have nots... I don't agree with that.
5. Said that it is not fair the USA middle class has so much if the rest of the world says so. What does that mean?
It's probably not fair, but neither is life and it means he is appeasing other countries.. also not what I'd do nor do I approve.
None of that really equates to "destroying the nation" like you're putting it.
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one of the trump videos just illustrated how biased and left wolf blitzer is.
blame business and take their money.
blame the rich and take their money.
blame bush to divert responsibility from obongo.
fucking pathetic liberal waste of air time.
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one of the trump videos just illustrated how biased and left wolf blitzer is.
blame business and take their money.
blame the rich and take their money.
blame bush to divert responsibility from obongo.
fucking pathetic liberal waste of air time.
That clip from Trump would get him 55% of the vote.
There is not one thing he said I cant see any sane person disagreeing with.
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That clip from Trump would get him 55% of the vote.
There is not one thing he said I cant see any sane person disagreeing with.
Of course....but the clowns on here think a Communist leaning community organizer with no experience running anything is more qualified to lead a country than a Billionaire than has run multiple corporations and can clearly assess what's going on in the International community. I hope he does run...of course he probably won't get the Mud people vote.
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Of course....but the clowns on here think a Communist leaning community organizer with no experience running anything is more qualified to lead a country than a Billionaire than has run multiple corporations and can clearly assess what's going on in the International community. I hope he does run...of course he probably won't get the Mud people vote.
Run them into the ground you mean... Come on man... Admit he's had to file Bankruptcy 3 times... Admit it.
He's not some financial genius obviously.
How about a Warren Buffet... That guy is a real genius.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump#Financial_problems_.281989.E2.80.931997.29
Trump really knows how business operates.
I agree with buffet, but dont like his praying on the govt for the lifeblood of his life insurancer business. He also seems phoney as shit with his complaints on taxes.
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Run them into the ground you mean... Come on man... Admit he's had to file Bankruptcy 3 times... Admit it.
He's not some financial genius obviously.
How about a Warren Buffet... That guy is a real genius.
So what? Even more impressive that he's able to keep coming back and earning the fortunes all over again. What he said about China was dead on, about OPEC was totally correct and the the epic weakness being shown towards our enemies..also dead on. Trump would have the best people advising him and if they screwed up.....they're fired.
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;D ;D ;D ;D
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So what? Even more impressive that he's able to keep coming back and earning the fortunes all over again. What he said about China was dead on, about OPEC was totally correct and the the epic weakness being shown towards our enemies..also dead on. Trump would have the best people advising him and if they screwed up.....they're fired.
Hahaha... He made "fortunes" because he had smarter guys in other companies bail his out until he got his shit straight.
That's just fact man.
Smart guys who get fired when they screw up? Really? You think that's how it's gonna work when he's POTUS?
Not in the least.
But keep on dreaming that.
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Is that the excuse for bama and geither/summers/rubin/romer/orzag et al?
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Truly I can not believe you actually believe this... It's just ridiculous.
333 is a sane person
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Great Clip.
Trump has balls.
bump
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He just wants everyone to watch the apprentice.
Trump does this every single year - some big media tiff to get everyone talking. Remember the choreographed back-and-forth with Rosie? The Ivanka divorce stunt? The Miss USA Scandal? The mosque buyout offer?
Guys, Trump does this every few months, and it usually coincides with starts or ends of his Apprentice show. And whattya know... 5 days (one media cycle?) before the new season starts, he just happens to release info he is gonna possibly be the challenger to Obama?
Nice timing, huh? ;) But he can't tell us now. Nope. He'll drag it out every week so we'll remember his show, chock full of hiphop celebrities, is on every week. Then, we'll all be glued to his seats in 3 months (well past when he'd have to announce to have any real impact) so he can say "You're fired, politicians in washington!.... snicker, snicker... but I'm not actually running".
It's a stunt to keep his show in the news. Plain and simple. Does anyone here disagree? 33?
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Did you watch the clip w wolf blitzer?
If he ran on that platform, he would have bama in tears.
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He just wants everyone to watch the apprentice.
It's a stunt to keep his show in the news. Plain and simple. Does anyone here disagree? 33?
When I saw the title of this thread, I thought "The new season of 'The Apprentice' must be starting soon."
For the record, most of what he said is wrong. America's manufacturing and import economy is still twice as large as China's. China specializes in low end good and only manages that because they have a never ending supply of what is essentially slave labor.
As for the US being beholden to Chinese interest because of our heavy borrowing? Um, no. Their lending is a vital investment for the country and no other industry or economy is large enough to absorb that much cash. For better or worse, they need us as much as we need them.
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Also, I disagree that anything Obama has done has negatively affected the standing of the US in the eyes of the world. I think the truth of the matter is just that being the world's only economic superpower for so long engendered a lot of jealousy and the fact that we are now just the biggest fish in a pond with a few other big fishes is being reflected in today's political environment. And if anything brought that fact home, it was the events leading up to the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq more than anything else.
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Did you watch the clip w wolf blitzer?
If he ran on that platform, he would have bama in tears.
I didn't ask if you agreed with him, 33.
I asked if you truly believed he was running - or if this is just another publicity stunt. Which do you think it is? And none of this "I dunno, but..." crap. Get on record matey!
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Don't know. Trump may go for it.
I hope he does. I would campaign for him easily over the catastrophe we have now.
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hold on, are you going to campaign for him or palin you can only campaign for one ;D
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hold on, are you going to campaign for him or palin you can only campaign for one ;D
I would campaign for Ted Bundy, BTK Killer, Zodiac Killer, the Hillside Strangler, E Gein, Madoff, Vandersloot, OJ, M. Vick, Sam Berkowitz, Scott Peterson, etc over Obama if forced to.
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Hot as hell.
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Great Clip.
Trump has balls.
Great Video.
Don't now if he is seriously going to run or not, but he makes one great point after the other in this video.
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I would campaign for Ted Bundy, BTK Killer, Zodiac Killer, the Hillside Strangler, E Gein, Madoff, Vandersloot, OJ, M. Vick, Sam Berkowitz, Scott Peterson, etc over Obama if forced to.
I'm afraid you lost some credibility by adding O.J. to that list. The others are understandable, but I think O.J. and Obama are cut from the same cloth. No way O.J gets my vote. :D
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I'm afraid you lost some credibility by adding O.J. to that list. The others are understandable, but I think O.J. and Obama are cut from the same cloth. No way O.J gets my vote. :D
OJ would "cut" taxes and "slash" spending.... ;D
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Sorry Al - Trump is dead right - Obama in intentionally trying to collapse the nation by driving up enegy prices he knows will cripple us.
Its intentional and he has said so many times, only that you dopes are too much in denial to realze it.
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Roger Stone: Trump Would Be Giant Prez Candidate
Newsmax ^ | Friday, 07 Jan 2011 05:25 PM | By Henry J. Reske and Ashley Martella
Real estate mogul Donald Trump would be a giant among Republican candidates for president, political analyst Roger Stone tells Newsmax.TV. The New York billionaire has a Kennedy-like charisma that could take on President Barack Obama, Stone said in an exclusive interview with Newsmax
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Going to be on M. Savage tonight. ill post the video later. He is going to discuss opec, china amnd potus run.
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Trump: Obama admn is a disgrace. We are being laughed at by the world with this admn.
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Some good points made there. I doubt he could screw the economy up any worse than Obama has.
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Some good points made there. I doubt he could screw the economy up any worse than Obama has.
Build a foolproof thing and they'll build a better fool.
I am not saying he's terrible, but I can't make blanket statements about his ability to fix the economy.
Also, I can't really say Obama screwed up the economy... It was screwed when he got in. Now if you think he should have had it fixed by now but hasn't... Well, I can't really disagree.
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He made a bad situation way worse.
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Build a foolproof thing and they'll build a better fool.
I am not saying he's terrible, but I can't make blanket statements about his ability to fix the economy.
Also, I can't really say Obama screwed up the economy... It was screwed when he got in. Now if you think he should have had it fixed by now but hasn't... Well, I can't really disagree.
It was bad to begin with. Obama just happened to screw it up even more.
It's not even debatable at this point. The unemployment rate continues to inch up while the debt continues to sky rocket.
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It was bad to begin with. Obama just happened to screw it up even more.
It's not even debatable at this point. The unemployment rate continues to inch up while the debt continues to sky rocket.
I thought UE went down last month?
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I thought UE went down last month?
And yet it still sits much higher than when Obama took office. One month doesn't negate two years of rising UE.
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I thought UE went down last month?
ha ha ha ha ha ha! ! ! ! ! !
Are you F'ing kidding me?
Do you know why the number went down?
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And yet it still sits much higher than when Obama took office. One month doesn't negate two years of rising UE.
I agree... he does have 2 more years to work on that, if it's not quite a bit lower in 2 years, then I'll have to put my vote somewhere else.
ha ha ha ha ha ha! ! ! ! ! !
Are you F'ing kidding me?
Do you know why the number went down?
Yes. Which is a process that has been in place for UE since the 80s under Reagan I'm certain.
So, while I do understand the reason, I also understand that it's been that way in the system for a long long time.
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They stoppoed counting HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS who stopped looking forwork since the economy is so terrible.
If Bama and the left want to classify that as progress, ha ha ha ha - that will be good in 2012 -
Maybe he can claim 2% UE when no one is looking for work anymore and just sitting home.
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They stoppoed counting HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS who stopped looking forwork since the economy is so terrible.
If Bama and the left want to classify that as progress, ha ha ha ha - that will be good in 2012 -
Maybe he can claim 2% UE when no one is looking for work anymore and just sitting home.
Every administration stops counting people who can no longer get benefits.
EVERY administration.
So when UE went up at the end of the .com boom, when those people couldn't find jobs and benefits ran out, then the UE went down from that as well.
This is how it is... I don't think it's right, but it's the way the system is setup.
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Trump is trying to keep his name relevant.
He does this every single time.
I'm surprised ppl still buy into the BS.
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Trump is trying to keep his name relevant.
He does this every single time.
I'm surprised ppl still buy into the BS.
Don' know - i think he sees an opening he can easily take advantage of.
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Don' know - i think he sees an opening he can easily take advantage of.
Uh huh.
I dunno, I'm betting he and Rosie really hate each other........
Easily take advantage of? LOL! He'd be a TERRIBLE candidate. Religious types see him as a new york whore. Businessmen see him as a guy who wears a nice suit, drives a limo, and declares bankruptcy all the time. The guy was born a billionaire and his claim to fame is that he is able to keep losing and re-gaining it.
Yes. Run him against Obama. Enjoy the debates, after he says "your fired" 1700 times, when he is completely friggin clueless on social domestic policy and world affairs. Sweet. Run a gimmick. It worked on the VP slot last time, didnt it? ;)
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Uh huh.
I dunno, I'm betting he and Rosie really hate each other........
Easily take advantage of? LOL! He'd be a TERRIBLE candidate. Religious types see him as a new york whore. Businessmen see him as a guy who wears a nice suit, drives a limo, and declares bankruptcy all the time. The guy was born a billionaire and his claim to fame is that he is able to keep losing and re-gaining it.
Yes. Run him against Obama. Enjoy the debates, after he says "your fired" 1700 times, when he is completely friggin clueless on social domestic policy and world affairs. Sweet. Run a gimmick. It worked on the VP slot last time, didnt it? ;)
Ha ha ha ha - r you kidding ? ? ? ?
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Ha ha ha ha - r you kidding ? ? ? ?
I think Obama would beat Trump too.
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Ha ha ha ha - r you kidding ? ? ? ?
no, i'm not.
Trump doesn't know jack shit about national defense. And I'm sure he can relate to the plight of the poor guy witouht a job, with his 25 year old mistresses and limos and fake hair.
Sorry... trump would plummet everywhere he campaigned. He's a Rudy-type or Thompson-type guy. A NY Legend on TV who turns into another dufus when he sits at a table in Iowa and tries to relate to people who make $28k a year.
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I think Obama would beat Trump too.
Yeah, because again -
1. Racist blacks
2. 46% of people who pay ZERO TAXES
3. Guilt ridden white libs who prefer suicide to actually standing up for this nation.
4. Probably 65-80% of all govt employees.
Will all vote for the piece of shit obama who promises more welfare and govt benes paid for by fewer and fewer people.
Basically - Obama has cornered the parasite vote.
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Yeah, because again -
1. Racist blacks
2. 46% of people who pay ZERO TAXES
3. Guilt ridden white libs who prefer suicide to actually standing up for this nation.
4. Probably 65-80% of all govt employees.
Will all vote for the piece of shit obama who promises more welfare and govt benes paid for by fewer and fewer people.
Basically - Obama has cornered the parasite vote.
Maybe, but I know tons of people who say they hate Democrats and the money sucking liberals, but suck that Government tit when shit goes awry in their life.
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Maybe, but I know tons of people who say they hate Democrats and the money sucking liberals, but suck that Government tit when shit goes awry in their life.
There are "conservatives" on getbig who don't carry medical insurance, but would take free healthcare in a minute if they slipped and fell getting out of the shower in the morning.
I guess being a worthless parasite lib is just related to circumstance, then?
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Maybe, but I know tons of people who say they hate Democrats and the money sucking liberals, but suck that Government tit when shit goes awry in their life.
Fine - then let the whole fucking thing collapse IMHO. Maybe dolts like 240 will be happy when that happens and just sit there and blame Palin and Beck and feel good about themselves.
I'm serious- if we collapse at this point - I really coud care less, we deserve it as far as I am concerned with he general attitude in this nation twards debt govt spending, programs, refusal to domestically prduce oil or manufacturing, etc
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Fine - then let the whole fucking thing collapse IMHO. Maybe dolts like 240 will be happy when that happens and just sit there and blame Palin and Beck and feel good about themselves.
I'm serious- if we collapse at this point - I really coud care less, we deserve it as far as I am concerned with he general attitude in this nation twards debt govt spending, programs, refusal to domestically prduce oil or manufacturing, etc
At this point, you have repeatedly said you:
1) Would vote for a serial killer for president
2) Don't care if the US collapses
Yikes.
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At this point, you have repeatedly said you:
1) Would vote for a serial killer for president
2) Don't care if the US collapses
Yikes.
True - if we refuse to take the steps necessary to heal this nation, to produce energy, to say FFFUUUCCCKKK YYOOUUU to the wacko left who stops all domestic drilling, manfucaturing power plants, etc, if we refuse to drastically curtail spending despite the cry baby left, if we refuse to demand accountability from the perpetual welfare class, if we continue to entertain and engage in economically insane and bizarre policies lke we have now, if we continue to trash business, well, we deserve everything we get that will bethe natural and likely result of said actions.
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At this point, you have repeatedly said you:
1) Would vote for a serial killer for president
2) Don't care if the US collapses
Yikes.
You highlight one of the biggest problems in this country. 333 wants to the US as a whole succeed. You and your far-left cronies want to see certain people succeed.
Two vastly different things.
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Awesome!
Go Donald!
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Great fucking clip.
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Trump's a funny guy! I enjoy listening to him. ;D
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Rush sounds like he is getting on the Trump 2012 train. He is playing clips of Trump on Obama right now and speaking like he should be the guy.
Trump/Christie - Game - Set - Match
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Obongo and Sheriff Dupnick = 2012 Democratic Dream Ticket
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Obongo and Sheriff Dupnick = 2012 Democratic Dream Ticket
LLMMAAOO - Damn GW - you need to go into stand up.
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I would easily vote or him.
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Seems like an intelligent guy
A way better pick than Palin thats for sure
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333 wants to the US as a whole succeed.
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Please go kill yourself you fucking moron.
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trump>obama
most anyone>obama
LOL
Trump has about as much of a chance to be president as Rudolph Gulianus.
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Obama's Praise of China 'Low Point' in Speech: Trump
Published: Wednesday, 26 Jan 2011 | 8:34 AM ET Text Size By: Jeff Cox
CNBC.com Staff Writer
China is not a friend of the US and should not have been praised during President Obama's State of the Union speech Tuesday, real estate magnate Donald Trump said.
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In a speech that "was mostly talk," the most disturbing part for the New York-based developer was the president's decision to praise technological and business advances in China, long an economic nemesis for the US.
"I thought the low point was when he talked about how great China was," Trump said in a CNBC interview. "To me that was inappropriate to have in this speech, especially in light of what has happened with China."
The president singled out China for the advances it made in education and held the nation up as an example for what the US should be doing.
"Meanwhile, nations like China and India realized that with some changes of their own, they could compete in this new world," Obama said. "And so they started educating their children earlier and longer, with greater emphasis on math and science.
"They're investing in research and new technologies. Just recently, China became home to the world's largest private solar research facility and the world's fastest computer."
The remarks came on the heels of a high-profile visit between Obama and Chinese President Hu Jintao in which the leaders pledged to forge closer ties. During the visit, Obama praised China for making progress on human rights and said the two nations should strive for an environment of "cooperation" and "friendly competition."
For Trump, though, the president's posture is symptomatic of the raw deal the US is getting with its international trading partners.
"I understand the Chinese, and I understand they are not a friend of this country," he said.
"We had this tremendous deficit with China last year and we had that with many other countries. We can't be doing that," he later added. "We have become a whipping post for many of the smart countries of the world."
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Absolutely not - Obama is worse than madoff in fact.
www.usdebtclock.org
and this is where the conversation takes a turn for the worse...
People cant have a true discussion with this prick.
"id vote for charles manson before i vote for obama.. and im for real"
Like for real man.. this shit is old.
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Why? Obama is worse than Madoff. at least Madoff stole existing money. obama is stealing future generations' money with his criminal level of waste, fraud, abuse, and prolifigate spending.
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Why? Obama is worse than Madoff. at least Madoff stole existing money. obama is stealing future generations' money with his criminal level of waste, fraud, abuse, and prolifigate spending.
For real ??? Stealing?.. just jump.. you ack like the guy is puttin cash in his pockets.. dude off yourself
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For real ??? Stealing?.. just jump.. you ack like the guy is puttin cash in his pockets.. dude off yourself
How you learn a damn thing about how money works instead of sucking his cock all the time and defending theft.
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and this is where the conversation takes a turn for the worse...
People cant have a true discussion with this prick.
"id vote for charles manson before i vote for obama.. and im for real"
Like for real man.. this shit is old.
PEA BRAIN is our own Village Idiot.
I don't know if I ever got a response to whether PB would vote for a Sharpton/Kucinich ticket over Obama. What say you, PB?
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Great fucking clip.
That is a good clip... I don't know about voting for manson but I'd vote for trump.
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When I saw the title of this thread, I thought "The new season of 'The Apprentice' must be starting soon."
For the record, most of what he said is wrong. America's manufacturing and import economy is still twice as large as China's. China specializes in low end good and only manages that because they have a never ending supply of what is essentially slave labor.
As for the US being beholden to Chinese interest because of our heavy borrowing? Um, no. Their lending is a vital investment for the country and no other industry or economy is large enough to absorb that much cash. For better or worse, they need us as much as we need them.
Great post
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OJ would "cut" taxes and "slash" spending.... ;D
:D
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He made a bad situation way worse.
Only time will tell he has only been in office 2 years Bush served 8 years so..
I disagree with the bailouts but who knows what the economy would look like if they had not been inforced
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LOL @ half of you missing that trump's been bankrupt 3 times, just imagine what he'll do with the country!
trump would probably fuck the states worse then bush could ever dream of.. you guys all sit there and slam obama
but look at the shitstorm bush left him to clean up, it was the same way with bush senior and clinton.
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Wo the printing press, the fed gov would be broke
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Wo the printing press, the fed gov would be broke
Maybe it doesnt matter, we keep printing money and we are 2 big to fail so no problem :P
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How you learn a damn thing about how money works instead of sucking his cock all the time and defending theft.
Bitch no one is stealing a god damn thing.. so chill with the defending. Your chicken little, super hyperbole shit is fucking gay. I can discuss politics with almost anyone on this board, most of whom dont vote democratic, but with you, you go all faggy and fly off the deep end and turn any conversation to a sideshow.. the shit is fucking homo.
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Bitch no one is stealing a god damn thing.. so chill with the defending. Your chicken little, super hyperbole shit is fucking gay. I can discuss politics with almost anyone on this board, most of whom dont vote democratic, but with you, you go all faggy and fly off the deep end and turn any conversation to a sideshow.. the shit is fucking homo.
Printing money, backed by nothing, causing devaluation of the dollar is what again MAL?
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LOL @ half of you missing that trump's been bankrupt 3 times, just imagine what he'll do with the country!
trump would probably fuck the states worse then bush Obama could ever dream of..
If you are going to post, then get it right. Obama's 2 years have been worst than Bush's 8.
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LOL @ half of you missing that trump's been bankrupt 3 times, just imagine what he'll do with the country!
trump would probably fuck the states worse then bush could ever dream of.. you guys all sit there and slam obama
but look at the shitstorm bush left him to clean up, it was the same way with bush senior and clinton.
People have very short term memories... I mentioned this on page one, but no one seemed to care.
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People have very short term memories... I mentioned this on page one, but no one seemed to care.
Here is the thing - A man who has failed in his life, and also succeeded generally is in a far better position to make decisicions than anyone who has never done anything and had EVERYTHING handed to them and done for them.
Patton failed at many things and failed out of West Point his first year. How many people remember that?
This is the thig with academic hacks like Bama - he has never taken a risk, never done a damn thing in his life, never held a job, never been accountable to results, etc.
This is why I trust Trump over Bama. Bama had no record whatsoever and we are seeing thedisastrous results of putting someone so lacking in experience in all areas in charge of anything.
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Here is the thing - A man who has failed in his life, and also succeeded generally is in a far better position to make decisicions than anyone who has never done anything and had EVERYTHING handed to them and done for them.
Patton failed at many things and failed out of West Point his first year. How many people remember that?
This is the thig with academic hacks like Bama - he has never taken a risk, never done a damn thing in his life, never held a job, never been accountable to results, etc.
This is why I trust Trump over Bama. Bama had no record whatsoever and we are seeing thedisastrous results of putting someone so lacking in experience in all areas in charge of anything.
Well, that's where we are different... You're talking about trusting someone OVER someone else.
I don't believe that Trump would do a damn thing except talk.
Let's be real here... Unless trump is going to find a way to slash the ENTIRE US BUDGET by 40%, reduce government employees, and bring the troops home (Which we all know he won't do any of this, because if he DID or said he did, then he couldn't get elected anyway) then it doesn't make one bit of difference.
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Here is the thing - A man who has failed in his life, and also succeeded generally is in a far better position to make decisicions than anyone who has never done anything and had EVERYTHING handed to them and done for them.
Patton failed at many things and failed out of West Point his first year. How many people remember that?
This is the thig with academic hacks like Bama - he has never taken a risk, never done a damn thing in his life, never held a job, never been accountable to results, etc.
This is why I trust Trump over Bama. Bama had no record whatsoever and we are seeing thedisastrous results of putting someone so lacking in experience in all areas in charge of anything.
So Obama failed in his first-term as president but may be a succes in his second-term :D
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www.politico.com
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The Donald is set to meet the conservatives.
Donald Trump, the real estate mogul turned reality TV star, is a surprise late add to CPAC as he seriously weighs a run for the White House. Organizers confirmed to POLITICO that Trump will speak to the gathering Thursday afternoon at 3.pm.
Trump's ability to command attention is big, and this cycle's GOP presidential field is completely open.
The Donald said that he's serious about a campaign last night on CNN.
"I love this country," he told Piers Morgan. "I hate what's happened to this country. We're a laughingstock throughout the world. We're not respected."
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Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0211/49227.html#ixzz1DZBNCJuu
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In Europe the US is far more respected now than under Bush
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yawn. he's hyping his Apprentice season finale.
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So Obama failed in his first-term as president but may be a succes in his second-term :D
His first term is not over yet and he has been a total disaster. Unlike Donald in the business world, Obama in the political world hasn't shown any qualities that would give you an inkling that he would do better the second time around.
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In Europe the US is far more respected now than under Bush
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Yeah, because we now suck as bad as they do.
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Yeah, because we now suck as bad as they do.
LOL. We certainly do with all these quasi socialist entitlement programs on the way.
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Yeah, because we now suck as bad as they do.
No because they had no respect for Bush and they have lots of respect for Obama
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No because they had no respect for Bush and they have lots of respect for Obama
Yes, because he is INTENTIONALLY screwing us over and making us weaker.
Obama is like the rich kid whose parents gave him everything and gives it all away to the kids in the playground. However, as soon as he stops giving away free shit, they will loathe and hate him, like most thinking people in connection with reality do.
They don't respect him at all, they laugh at him.
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They don't respect me at all, they laugh at me.
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Would you vote for Trump over Obama? If no, why not.
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No they respect him because they see him as much more intelligent and capable than they did Bush
Bush was a joke in Europe they could not believe the US could elect a guy was that dumb
They also believe he was owned by coorperations like Haliburton and the oil companies where his father is a dominating figure
What do you mean free shit?
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No they respect him because they see him as much more intelligent and capable than they did Bush
Bush was a joke in Europe they could not believe the US could elect a guy was that dumb
They also believe he was owned by coorperations like Haliburton and the oil companies where his father is a dominating figure
What do you mean free shit?
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Yawm - your gimmick is showing again.
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No they respect him because they see him as much more intelligent and capable than they did Bush
Too bad their perception is not our reality.
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What?
I know Europeans clearly you dont whats your problem ???
You know i agree with you on several issues especially economical and im not even disagr here just saying what the Europeans feel toward Bush and Obama.
You are a grown man do you come on this board to get people saying you are right all the time or do you wanna hear the truth even though it hurts?
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What?
I know Europeans clearly you dont whats your problem ???
You know i agree with you on several issues especially economical and im not even disagr here just saying what the Europeans feel toward Bush and Obama.
You are a grown man do you come on this board to get people saying you are right all the time or do you wanna hear the truth even though it hurts?
Europeeons are also on the verge of collapse themselves so I guess misery likes company.
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Europeeons are also on the verge of collapse themselves so I guess misery likes company.
Is that your best reply? Come on you can usually do better than this.
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Good speech at CPAC. Obama is a piece of shit and needs to be ousted.
Fuck you whoever still supports this incompetent idiotic admn.
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Good speech at CPAC. Obama is a piece of shit and needs to be ousted.
Fuck you whoever still supports this incompetent idiotic admn.
The guy is a self serving douchebag. HE is going to bring respect to the United States again? haha wtf? This guy is shamless. Stick to beauty pagents.
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Good speech at CPAC. Obama is a piece of shit and needs to be ousted.
Fuck you whoever still supports this incompetent idiotic admn.
fuck you
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run the country,can't even get a decent haircut ;D
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I'm quite curious to know how Trump would have handled Obama's situations.
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Fox News Poll: Trump for President?
By Dana Blanton
Published February 11, 2011 | FoxNews.com
The list of potential Republican presidential candidates now ranges from former Mass. Gov. Mitt Romney to real estate developer and television personality Donald Trump.
Who among them do voters think would make a good president?
A Fox News poll released Friday asked that simple question.
Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee (55 percent) and Romney (54 percent) alone receive a thumbs-up from at least half of Republican voters. They also garner the most support among voters overall (34 percent and 33 percent respectively).
About four in 10 Republicans think former House Speaker Newt Gingrich (43 percent), former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin (40 percent) and former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush (39 percent) would make good presidents -- however, less than one in four voters overall thinks so.
New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie says he’s not running, yet 29 percent of Republicans say he would be a good president. That trumps Trump at 23 percent.
Trump was one of several possible 2012 candidates who spoke at CPAC, the Conservative Political Action Conference on Thursday. He said he would announce his presidential plans in June.
This early in the election cycle, name recognition plays a large part in the support candidates receive. That may be what boosts Trump over lesser-known potential contenders such as former Minn. Gov. Tim Pawlenty (21 percent support among Republicans), Minn. Rep. Michele Bachmann (16 percent), Miss. Gov. Haley Barbour (16 percent) and former Penn. Sen. Rick Santorum (15 percent).
Meanwhile, the most well-known candidates are also the most likely to be viewed as not good presidential material. Three out of four voters (75 percent) say Trump would not make a good president, including 71 percent of Republicans. Seventy-two percent overall and 56 percent of Republicans say the same about Palin.
Many voters say they have never heard of some of the possible candidates, including Ambassador Jon Huntsman (55 percent “never heard of”) South Dakota Sen. John Thune (53 percent), Indiana Gov. Mitch Daniels (49 percent), Santorum (46 percent), Pawlenty (45 percent), Barbour (42 percent) and Bachmann (41 percent).
Potential 2012 Head-to-Head Matchups
The poll asked about several hypothetical head-to-head matchups, and President Obama bests each Republican tested.
Romney comes closest to Obama, trailing by 7 points (48-41 percent). Last fall Romney was just 1-point back (41-40 percent, September 2010). A year ago, Obama lead Romney by 12 points (47-35 percent).
The president has an 8-point advantage over Huckabee (49-41 percent), up from a 3-point edge in September (43-40 percent).
Obama has even wider advantages over Palin (56-35 percent), Gingrich (55-35 percent), and Jeb Bush (54-34 percent).
Even as White House staffers depart to work on the 2012 campaign, 53 percent of voters think Obama is still focused on his job as president, rather than turning his attention to his re-election (33 percent).
The Fox News poll is based on landline and cell phone interviews with 911 randomly chosen registered voters nationwide and was conducted under the joint direction of Anderson Robbins Research (D) and Shaw & Company Research (R) from Feb. 7 to Feb. 9. For the total sample, it has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 3 percentage points.
Click here to view the raw data.
Mike Huckabee is the host of “Huckabee” on Fox News Channel, and Newt Gingrich, Sarah Palin and Rick Santorum are Fox News contributors.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/02/11/fox-news-poll-trump-president/
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Right.
Trump trashing Ron Paul at CPAC is certainly the way to win a Republican primary.
Why did he trash Ron Paul? Because Trump and RP are on the OPPOSITE side on the issues. Trump's a pro-abortion, anti-gun liberal.
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She would be the hottest First Daughter ever.
To me, she is the ideal chic. Hot as fucking hell. Curvy, smart, articulate, big ass and boobs, damn.
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Right.
Trump trashing Ron Paul at CPAC is certainly the way to win a Republican primary.
Why did he trash Ron Paul? Because Trump and RP are on the OPPOSITE side on the issues. Trump's a pro-abortion, anti-gun liberal.
Did Trump "trash" the Paul Ron fella or just state an obvious fact in front of Mr. Ron's annual convention of adoring fans...that Paul Ron has ZERO chance of being elected president?
And yes, ANY AND EVERY repube of any major note coming out of NYC is going to be pro choice and pro gun control. Be it Trump, Adolf Gulianus, etc.
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Not if I jump in the race for prez.
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Not if I jump in the race for prez.
Notice I said repube of "any major note." You are a nobody. ;D
However, I say go for it PEA BRAIN. I look forward to your first speech.
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Very simple - I will run clips of obama promising the moon and delivering shit.
On issue after issue I would expose him for the incompetent failure, communist, islamist, alinskyite, teleprompter-reliant, stammering, stuttering, piece of lying shit he is.
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Very simple - I will run clips of obama promising the moon and delivering shit.
On issue after issue I would expose him for the incompetent failure, communist, islamist, alinskyite, teleprompter-reliant, stammering, stuttering, piece of lying shit he is.
Like I said, go for it PEA BRAIN.
Don't talk about it, be about it. ;)
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Trump, daniels, thune, sarah, barbour, huck, romeny, even madoff, vamndersloot, peterson, pee wee herman, suge night, snoop dog, would be better than bama.
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Trump, daniels, thune, sarah, barbour, huck, romeny, even madoff, vamndersloot, peterson, pee wee herman, suge night, snoop dog, would be better than bama.
yup..but With all that said.. Obama is still president..Beyoch
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Trump, daniels, thune, sarah, barbour, huck, romeny, even madoff, vamndersloot, peterson, pee wee herman, suge night, snoop dog, would be better than bama.
HAHAHA! Now that shit would be entertaining. Suge would be fearless in the war room. I could literally see Putin blinking in a confrontation haha!
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Obama to me combines all of the traits, experiences, and charachterisitics of what we don't want in a president. No balls, no experience, no real world employment experience, pushed along academically his whole life, delusional illusions of grandeur, associations w fringe charachters his whole life, etc.
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Obama to me combines all of the traits, experiences, and charachterisitics of what we don't want in a president. No balls, no experience, no real world employment experience, pushed along academically his whole life, delusional illusions of grandeur, associations w fringe charachters his whole life, etc.
The biggest "fraud" in the history of the world..
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The biggest "fraud" in the history of the world..
let's keep Arnold's 1980 win out of the Political board please.
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National Review Column: President Trump? Some say he’s a viable candidate.
National Review ^ | 03/15/2011 | Katrina Trinko
Here’s the case supporter and longtime GOP strategist Roger Stone makes for why Donald Trump would be a viable presidential candidate: Trump’s got the business moxie to create jobs, the policy positions to win over the Tea Party, and, in a field dominated by dullards, the charisma to match President Obama in a likeability showdown.
“He’s a giant among pygmies. The fact that he is a celebrity, the fact that he can command public attention, gives him a terrific pulpit to communicate some very key ideas,” Stone says, referring to Trump’s outspokenness on U.S.-China relations and OPEC.
“He’s got a proven record of job creation,” Stone adds. “He’s created thousands, if not hundreds of thousands, of jobs in the private sector. Mitt Romney bought a bunch of companies and closed them down. I think he may have cost us jobs in his business career. Beyond that . . . voters are very sour on politicians. Somebody coming from another strata . . . is very attractive to the American people right now.”
Stone, a friend of Trump’s who chaired the business mogul’s 2000 presidential exploratory committee and worked for him as a lobbyist in Washington for over 20 years, also sees an opportunity for Trump to capture the Tea Party momentum.
“I don’t view the Tea Party as being motivated by social issues. I view the Tea Party as being motivated by economic issues, and the size and cost of government, and the issue of taxation. On all those issues, Trump is a long-time conservative,” says Stone, noting that Trump has opposed Obamacare from the start.
So far, the Trump foray into 2012 has had middling success. After delivering a well-received speech at the Conservative Political Action Conference, Trump has continued on the conservative circuit, giving interviews to Rush Limbaugh (who praised Trump as having a “good old American can-do spirit”) and Fox News host Greta Van Susteren. A Wall Street Journal/NBC poll released this month found that Trump had 26 percent approval ratings, a percentage point ahead of Romney and 16 points ahead of Tim Pawlenty.
But as a possible candidate, Trump doesn’t appear to have gained much traction. The Facebook page for Draft Trump 2012, a petition effort spearheaded by Missouri military veteran Nick McLaughlin, has only 218 fans. (Trump’s main Facebook page has about 180,000 fans, significantly less than Romney’s 800,000.) This weekend, veteran Tennessee GOP senator Lamar Alexander told CNN that Trump had “absolutely no chance of winning” and was simply “famous for being famous.”
Trump shot back, telling Fox News that Alexander did “not seem to be an important player in Washington.”
Trump also faces concerns about his social-conservative credentials. Although he identified as pro-choice in 1999, he now says he is pro-life. While Romney (who has also changed positions on abortion) has been dogged by questions about the sincerity of his conversion, Stone doesn’t think Trump will be similarly affected. “The problem, I think, is that Mitt Romney changed all of his positions at the same time overnight,” Stone says. “I think the voters will allow a candidate to change positions on issues over time.”
Stone is similarly optimistic that the thrice-married Trump can avoid the probing personal-life questions that the also-thrice-married Newt Gingrich is likely to encounter. “Ronald Reagan was divorced,” Stone points out. “It doesn’t seem it was a problem for him. It is the manner in which you get divorced. In Trump’s case, he treated all of his ex-wives well and fairly, and I think they’re all favorably disposed towards him.”
And Stone thinks that, in a field where no candidate appears to have significant traction, Trump has the charisma to wow voters — and compete against Obama in the likeability department. He also doesn’t see Trump’s lack of political experience as a weakness. “I think voters prefer business experience to political experience,” Stone argues. “Political experience means you’ve been in Washington or in a state capitol and you haven’t gotten much done. I think voters consider creating a successful business empire — not only making millions of dollars, but also creating thousands of jobs — a worthy substitute for experience in the nation’s capital.”
But will Trump even run? He’s been flirting with a presidential run for over two decades. “I think he’s about 50-50. I think he’s the most serious he’s been. Nobody goes to CPAC without thinking about running for president,” says Lynn Kogh, the national political director of the Draft Trump 2012 committee.
“He’s certainly more serious than he’s ever been before,” agrees Stone. “In 2000, he was never completely sold. Now it’s a different time. His children from his first marriage are adults. They’re obviously beginning to run parts of his business. He’s now happily married, with a young son. I think he’s serious.”
“People are really looking for someone who is above the party politics,” Kogh remarks, noting that Trump has donated to both Democratic and Republican candidates, and adding that Trump would be a “fun candidate.”
“Can you imagine him debating?” Kogh asks. “It’d be really cool.”
Ultimately, any interest in Trump may say more about the 2012 field than Trump himself.
“The field is so slow,” Stone remarks. “There are no giants in this field.”
— Katrina Trinko is an NRO staff reporter.
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Former lib who suddenly became anti-obama when the 2010 election showed it could be profitable.
Currently trying to get everyone to watch his show's season finale by promising to make his announcement then.
he's fred thompson part 2.
And morons are cheerleading him (ignoring the bankruptcies despite inheriting a fortune, and his many lib positions - including supporting universal healthcare his entire life).
Soryr, but yall deserve exactly what you're going to get with your Trump/Palin pep rallise: Four more years of obama. ignore Thune, Huntsman, Christie and other qualified candidiates, and see if you can get britney Spears to wave a "don't tread on me" flag. nominate her. Dummies.
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Former lib who suddenly became anti-obama when the 2010 election showed it could be profitable.
Currently trying to get everyone to watch his show's season finale by promising to make his announcement then.
he's fred thompson part 2.
And morons are cheerleading him (ignoring the bankruptcies despite inheriting a fortune, and his many lib positions - including supporting universal healthcare his entire life).
Soryr, but yall deserve exactly what you're going to get with your Trump/Palin pep rallise: Four more years of obama. ignore Thune, Huntsman, Christie and other qualified candidiates, and see if you can get britney Spears to wave a "don't tread on me" flag. nominate her. Dummies.
LAYETH THE SMACKEH DOWNETH
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Thune and christie are not running moron.
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trump not running for pres. wasted story. World is on fire, and this is the best you repubs can do?
Figures. ;D
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trump not running for pres. wasted story. World is on fire, and this is the best you repubs can do?
Figures. ;D
Too bad your communist pofs messiah is too busy taping hia NCAA brackets for ESPN.
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damn groupees.
Wooooooooooo liberals-turned-tea partiers.........
Throw Trump a party because he's been agains tuniversal healthcare for 6 months now.
Jeebus.
Throw palin a party because she is no longer supporting cap/trade. Hooray.
Please, let's find some Bachmanns who have been CONSISTENT conservatives, not these trashy media whores who cheerlead whatever polls admire this week.
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you have your palin, bachmann, newt and romney in other words you lose again :D
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you have your palin, bachmann, newt and romney in other words you lose again :D
The way obama is going - corky from life goes on can him.
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The way obama is going - corky from life goes on can him.
lol.. how did i know some shit like that was coming.. this guy is worthless
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lol.. how did i know some shit like that was coming.. this guy is worthless
The way obama is going - corky from life goes on can him.
if palin reads this your in deeeeeep shit, no more signed pictures :D :D
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lol.. how did i know some shit like that was coming.. this guy is worthless
PARTY!
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Video: Donald Trump Joins the Long List of Obama Eligibility Doubters; Goes Birther on ABC
Obama Release Your Records ^ | March 17, 2011 | Obama Release Your Records
Video Below: Via CNN; - Trump says he has doubts about Obama’s birth place - Alexander Mooney
(CNN) – Donald Trump, the business mogul who continues to claim he is seriously interested in mounting a bid for the White House, says he has doubts about whether President Obama was born in the United States.
In an interview with ABC, Trump said he finds it strange “nobody knew” Obama as a young child in Hawaii.
“Let me tell you, I’m a really smart guy. I was a really good student at the best school in the country. The reason I have a little doubt, just a little, is because he grew up and nobody knew him,” Trump said in the interview that aired Thursday.
“If I got the nomination, if I decide to run, you may go back and interview people from my kindergarten. They'll remember me. Nobody comes forward. Nobody knows who he is until later in his life. It's very strange,” the Celebrity Apprentice host added. “The whole thing is very strange.”
Current Hawaii Gov. Neil Abercrombie has said he was a friend of Obama’s parents in Hawaii and remembers when the future president was born. Abercrombie, a former congressman who became governor last December, vowed to produce an original copy of Obama’s birth certificate but abandoned those efforts earlier this year because it is against state law to release private documents, according to his spokeswoman.
(Excerpt) Read more at obamareleaseyourrecords. blogspot.com ...
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Trump just got a little too full of himself. He's a birther now. he'll be mocked and will become trivial.
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Awesome. I would vote for him easily.
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Trump just got a little too full of himself. He's a birther now. he'll be mocked and will become trivial.
Why? as far as I am concerned - the birthers are still in the drivers' seat.
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Great! Trump taking out the obama trash where it belongs, right in the gutter.
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tell opec to give it to us at a lower price and they will do it :D :D :D :D :D oh brother, stick to the apprentice
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Corporations are erasing the line dividing them from governments
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Corporations are erasing the line dividing them from governments
I prefer a rich guy running the show than a homeless community agitator anyday.
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He would steamroll obama
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He would steamroll obama
Trump's a loose cannon.
Way too obnoxious and foolish, despite his experience. "We'll just order opec to drop prices!"
LMAO... oh brother... hes' getting people to watch his show.
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Trump's a loose cannon.
Way too obnoxious and foolish, despite his experience. "We'll just order opec to drop prices!"
LMAO... oh brother... hes' getting people to watch his show.
If its Trump or Palin - who do you go for?
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Ever hear obama in a radio interview like this?
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If its Trump or Palin - who do you go for?
you better hope thats not the only two choices you have :o i don't want to hear another 4 years of you crying ;D
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If its Trump or Palin - who do you go for?
I think i'd be too shocked by the idocy of Repub primary voters to choose 1 of 2 obnoxious media whores, over qualified and experienced GOP candidates.
yall went with flashy and exciting over experienced and prepared in 2008 on the VP slot. Please don't do it again, mmmkay?
(anyway, you just have fred thompson fever again, it's understandable ;) )
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I think i'd be too shocked by the idocy of Repub primary voters to choose 1 of 2 obnoxious media whores, over qualified and experienced GOP candidates.
yall went with flashy and exciting over experienced and prepared in 2008 on the VP slot. Please don't do it again, mmmkay?
(anyway, you just have fred thompson fever again, it's understandable ;) )
these idiots think palin helped the ticket :-[
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I think i'd be too shocked by the idocy of Repub primary voters to choose 1 of 2 obnoxious media whores, over qualified and experienced GOP candidates.
yall went with flashy and exciting over experienced and prepared in 2008 on the VP slot. Please don't do it again, mmmkay?
(anyway, you just have fred thompson fever again, it's understandable ;) )
I like what I have been hearing from Trump the last few months. He calls it like it is, like Perot did.
He is dead right - the world is pissing on us, laughing at us, and disrespecting us daily with the moron you worship.
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I like what I have been hearing from Trump the last few months. He calls it like it is, like Perot did.
He is dead right - the world is pissing on us, laughing at us, and disrespecting us daily with the moron you worship.
so if he tells opec to lower the price of fuel they're going to do it ,is that what you think is that how it works ???
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these idiots think palin helped the ticket :-[
They ignore the fact that 60% of actual voters said she's not even fit for the VP slot.
They ignore the fact mccain actually LED obama at some points during the summer, then lost in a landslide.
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They ignore the fact that 60% of actual voters said she's not even fit for the VP slot.
They ignore the fact mccain actually LED obama at some points during the summer, then lost in a landslide.
5.7%
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so if he tells opec to lower the price of fuel they're going to do it ,is that what you think is that how it works ???
trump isn't going to run.
33, want to make a bet? You have to pose with a Obama 2012 sign if he doesn't run (you can blank out your face of course).
If trump runs, I'll write something like "Palin 2012" or any candidate you'd like on a piece of paper and post that
You in? lol
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5.7%
that's a pretty big landslide in terms of presidential races - particuarly given our nation's divide in 2000 and 2004, right down the middle.
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trump isn't going to run.
33, want to make a bet? You have to pose with a Obama 2012 sign if he doesn't run (you can blank out your face of course).
If trump runs, I'll write something like "Palin 2012" or any candidate you'd like on a piece of paper and post that
You in? lol
and you have to do the 2 thumbs up :D
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Cool video - Trump embraces being a birther. look at the face of the interviewer. She has nothing to say at all.
http://nation.foxnews.com/donald-trump/2011/03/17/trump-says-he-has-doubts-about-obamas-birthplace
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Cool video - Trump embraces being a birther. look at the face of the interviewer. She has nothing to say at all.
http://nation.foxnews.com/donald-trump/2011/03/17/trump-says-he-has-doubts-about-obamas-birthplace
What the hell do you say to that?
You can't really do much except say, "you're fucking nuts." and move on or say nothing at all.
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What the hell do you say to that?
You can't really do much except say, "you're fucking nuts." and move on or say nothing at all.
Problem is that most of the evidence is still on the side of the birthers.
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Problem is that most of the evidence is still on the side of the birthers.
I wouldn't say it's evidence... I'd say it's a lot of people saying a lot of stuff.
That's not really evidence.
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Like what? Even the gov of hawaii can't find the bc?
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Like what? Even the gov of hawaii can't find the bc?
Does govt ever keep up with anything? Aren't we all of the mind that government fucks up most everything?
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Problem is that there are no hospital records, the grandmother said she witnessed his birth in kenya, along w tons of other crap that does not add up.
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Still sounds like a bunch of hearsay.
That's all.
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What gets me is that he could end this for 5 dollars.
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What gets me is that he could end this for 5 dollars.
Maybe he finds it funny.
I mean, if it were me and everyone kept making an issue out of it... I'd keep my shit sealed just to be a dick and laugh at everyone talking a bunch of nonsense.
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Of course that is one school of thought to keep people focused on that while he does other terrible shit elsewhere.
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Chris Matthews Accuses 'Birther' Donald Trump Of "Going Primate"
Business Insider ^ | March 18, 2011 | Steven Loeb
Yesterday, while talking to Good Morning America, potential presidential candidate Donald Trump waded into birther territory when he said this:
"Everybody that even gives any hint of being a birther, a word you didn't use, even a little bit of a hint like, 'Gee, you know, maybe, just maybe this much of a chance,' they label them as an idiot. Let me tell you, I'm a really smart guy. I was a really good student at the best school in the country. The reason I have a little doubt, just a little, is because he grew up and nobody knew him. When you interview people... if I ever got the nomination if I ever decide to run, you may go back and interview people from my kindergarten.They'll remember me. Nobody ever comes forward. Nobody knows who he is until later in his life. It's very strange. The whole thing is very strange."
Chris Matthews blasted Trump for saying that, accusing him of "going primate."
"Why is is he going out there and selling this malarkey?"
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Ha ha ha - leg tingles boy all upset.
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33,
Trump has marginalized himself with this. Which is why he's obviously in palin territory - saying anything to get a rise out of ppl to stay in the news 24/7.
You're kinda just a groupee to whatever is the new GOP flavor of the week. ;)
Palin, Christie, that army guy that beat the shit out of prisoners... lol... whoever fox news and rush praises that week seems to be your canddiate that week.
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33,
Trump has marginalized himself with this. Which is why he's obviously in palin territory - saying anything to get a rise out of ppl to stay in the news 24/7.
You're kinda just a groupee to whatever is the new GOP flavor of the week. ;)
Palin, Christie, that army guy that beat the shit out of prisoners... lol... whoever fox news and rush praises that week seems to be your canddiate that week.
DING DING DING
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DING DING DING
I am on record as willing to vote for Madoff/Vandersloot 2012 if given the choice, what do you expect from me?
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I am on record as willing to vote for Madoff/Vandersloot 2012 if given the choice, what do you expect from me?
33,
Would you knock on doors to campaign for Hitler/Sharpton in order to keep Obama out of office in 2013?
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33,
Would you knock on doors to campaign for Hitler/Sharpton in order to keep Obama out of office in 2013?
Yes. Hitler is dead so it would be Rev. Al. I trust Rev. Al more than Obama because Rev. Al is honest about his policies, intentions, and plans, even though I disagree with them.
Obama is a lying sack of communist shit who deceives daily about his intentions and motives.
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President Trump? Billionaire considering 2012 run (Wants obama to release BC)
Chicago Tribune/AP ^ | March 19, 2011 | BETH FOUHY
Donald Trump boots contestants off his TV show with a famous two-word catch phrase: "You're fired." He may want the chance to say the same to President Barack Obama.
The real estate tycoon with the comb-over hairdo and in-your-face attitude plans to decide by June whether to join the field of GOP contenders competing in 2012 to make the Democratic incumbent a one-term president.
Trump insists he's serious. He rejects skeptics' claims that he's using the publicity to draw viewers to "Celebrity Apprentice," the NBC reality program he co-produces and hosts.
SNIP
Obama should be pressed to disclose the original birth certificate. "When you look at what happens today, you look at the misconduct, the fraud and forgeries, you really want to see proof," Trump told the AP. Obama was born and grew up in Hawaii, and his 2008 campaign issued a certification of live birth -- an official document from the state.
--The "birther" movement has legitimate concerns, Trump told ABC. "The reason I have a little doubt, just a little, is because he grew up and nobody knew him."
Trump certainly has the strong opinions of a candidate.
But would the thrice-married billionaire known for his extravagant hotels and golf courses brave the mundane rituals of retail campaigning and the intense examination his business empire and personal wealth would draw?
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33, will you take my bet on trump running?
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33, will you take my bet on trump running?
Polls show him a point or two obama and he has not even declared. if trump runs and gets the GOP nod - he will not only beat Obama - it will be a massacre of 1984 measure against your messiah and lord saviour.
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He's not getting the GOP nod. If he decides to run as an independent anyway, he will sabatouge the GOP and Osama will win reelection.
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You're kinda just a groupee to whatever is the new GOP flavor of the week. ;)
Palin, Christie, that army guy that beat the shit out of prisoners... lol... whoever fox news and rush praises that week seems to be your canddiate that week.
Now that's funny. You've touted Thune, Huntsman, Newt, and Bachmann, then called Newt a RINO.
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He's not getting the GOP nod. If he decides to run as an independent anyway, he will sabatouge the GOP and Osama will win reelection.
Could very well happen. He has enough money to get on the ballot in every state.
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He's not getting the GOP nod. If he decides to run as an independent anyway, he will sabatouge the GOP and Osama will win reelection.
I heard him on savage and he said he wont run third party since it will mean a win for obama and he said he couldnt live himsef if he contributed to that.
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I heard him on savage and he said he wont run third party since it will mean a win for obama and he said he couldnt live himsef if he contributed to that.
Good.
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Awesome clip.
I hope he looks at Obama in the face "You are leaving this nation in mess"
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I would pay top dollar to see Donald look Ofailure in the eye and say "Your fired"
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Donald wars with Whoopi over Obama's eligibility
wnd.com ^ | 03/23/2011 | Joe Kovacs
"Donald wars with Whoopi over Obama's eligibility
Trump: 'There's something on that birth certificate that he doesn't like'
Billionaire developer and potential Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump got into a heated war of words on national television today as he questioned why Barack Obama has not revealed his long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate to help demonstrate his eligibility for the presidency.
"I want him to show his birth certificate! There's something on that birth certificate that he doesn't like," said Trump on ABC's "The View."
The comment enraged co-host Whoopi Goldberg, who fired back, "That's the biggest pile of dog mess I've heard in ages. It's not 'cause he's black is it?"
"It has nothing to do with that," said Trump.
Goldberg interjected, "Because I've never heard any white president asked to be shown the birth certificate. When you become a president of the United States of America, you know that he's American. I'm sorry, that's B.S."
Discussion of Obama's birth certificate can be seen in the following YouTube video, beginning at the 5:25 mark:
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More: http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=278617
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Awesome! Go Donald go!
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Lets see Obama EVER give an interview like this.
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Awesome! Go Donald go!
damn, you sound like a 13 year old girl circa 1988, screaming her love for Donnie Walbergh at a NKOTB concert.
Go Donald, go? Jeez, I'm tired of repubs who are starstruck by shiny egomaniacs like Palin and Trump. They're both using this hope of running to hype their media products. Trump can't stop talking about how rich he is, but guess what? if he runs, he'll have to reveal all those foreign leaders (including kadaffi) who paid him $. And Palin? Jeez, the GOP will destroy her with all the dirt they were in charge of hiding in 2008.
I just pray the majority of GOP voters look past obnoxious one-liners from tv whores, and will choose a competent and professional repub candidate who will whip obama by 15 states.
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I'm for whoever has a chance to take out your messiah. If trump is the guy to do it, fine by me.
Any kick in the nuts to obama from whoever it is will be applauded by myself.
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I'm for whoever has a chance to take out your messiah. If trump is the guy to do it, fine by me.
Any kick in the nuts to obama from whoever it is will be applauded by myself.
you just love shiny candidates who get you excited.
You'll ignore palin's RINO past and obvious lack of intellectual horsepower.
You'll ignore Trump's support of Univresal healthcare. Seriously.
They're celebrities milking it. We shouldn't be focusing on them. We should be asking why Chris Christie isn't running.
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it,s true obama doesn't have a birth certificate and here's why. shit 333386 was right all along ;D
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Where are the long form BC as well as hospital records?
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Is Donald Trump Punking the Press?
By Garance Franke-Ruta
Salon's Steve Kornacki offers the entire contents of his savings account -- $184.27 -- in a bet that businessman Donal Trump is scamming the press and the Republican Party by suggesting he has interest in running for president. Past is prologue, Kornacki argues:
Please, please, please: Don't fall for any of this. The Donald, in case you've forgotten, has taken us all down this road before, when he spent months flirting with a third party bid for president in 2000. Just like now, he promised to tap his own vast fortune, attracted a torrent of publicity, and fared decently in polls -- around 15 percent in trial heats against Al Gore and George W. Bush. And just like now, he had something to promote: A new book (which came out in January 2000) and, well, the Trump brand. The only difference: Trump was pretending to run as independent, so instead of opposing abortion and giving aid and comfort to birthers, he claimed to be pro-choice and talked up universal healthcare and a massive income tax surcharge for the super-wealthy. When that charade finally came to an end in February 2000, the national chairman of the Reform Party -- whose nomination Trump had claimed to be interested in -- branded the New York plutocrat a "hustler." "Donald Trump came in, promoted his hotels, he promoted his book, he promoted himself at our expense, and I think he understands very fully that we've ended the possibilities for such abuse of our party," Pat Choate said. He added: "All this was, was a serious hustle of the media, and I think the media should send him a massive bill on it."
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Donald Trump’s Story
www.shouldtrumprun.com
Donald J. Trump started his business career in an office he shared with his father, Fred, in Sheepshead Bay, Brooklyn, New York. He worked with his father for five years, where they were busy making deals together. Mr. Trump has stated, “My father was my mentor and I learned a tremendous amount about every aspect of the construction industry from him.” Likewise, Fred C. Trump often stated that “some of my best deals were made by my son, Donald….everything he touches turns to gold.” Mr. Trump then entered the very different world of Manhattan real estate.
In New York City, the Trump signature is synonymous with the most prestigious of addresses. Among them are the world-renowned Fifth Avenue skyscraper, Trump Tower. Luxury residential buildings include Trump World Tower at the United Nations Plaza, Trump Park Avenue at 59th Street and Park Avenue, Trump Place on the Hudson River, and Trump Palace. In 1997, Trump International Hotel & Tower opened its doors to the world, a 52-story super luxury hotel and residential building designed by the famed architect Philip Johnson. The property is one of only three in the country to have received a double Mobil Five-Star rating for both the hotel and its restaurant, Jean- Georges. In 2008, the 92-story Trump International Hotel & Tower Chicago opened and was touted by Condé Nast Traveler as the “hottest new hotel in North America.” The Trump Hotel Collection has projects going up around the world and met with tremendous success.
Mr. Trump is also known as a world-class golf course developer, with award-winning courses in New York, New Jersey, Los Angeles (Trump National Golf Clubs), Palm Beach (Trump International Golf Club), Canouan Island in the Grenadines and one in development in Aberdeen, Scotland (Trump International Golf Links) as well as Puerto Rico and the Dominican Republic. Mr. Trump is an avid golfer and his passion is evident in the spectacular courses he has developed and continues to develop worldwide. His latest acquisitions are Trump National Golf Club/Colts Neck, N.J, and Trump National Golf Club, Washington, D.C. which fronts the Potomac River for three miles.
As an accomplished and best selling author, Mr. Trump has had numerous best sellers including The Art of the Deal, which is considered a business classic, The Art of the Comeback, The America We Deserve, How To Get Rich, Think Like a Billionaire, Trump 101, Why We Want You To Be Rich, Think Big, Never Give Up, and Think Like a Champion.
In a departure from his real estate acquisitions, Mr. Trump and the NBC Television Network are partners in the ownership and broadcast rights for the Miss Universe, Miss USA and Miss Teen USA Pageants. In January of 2004, Mr. Trump joined forces with Mark Burnett Productions and NBC to produce and star in the television reality show, The Apprentice. The show quickly became #1 on television and is currently in its tenth season. Mr. Trump’s production company, Trump Productions, is based in Los Angeles. Mr. Trump also had a successful radio program on Clear Channel for several years.
Donald J. Trump is the very definition of the American success story. He has continually set new standards of excellence while expanding his interests nationally and internationally. Mr. Trump is personally involved in everything that his name represents. This commitment has made him the pre-eminent developer of quality real estate known around the world, and in all his endeavors the Trump gold standard is apparent. He is the archetypal businessman—a deal maker without peer and an ardent philanthropist.
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they left out where he filed for bankruptcy 3 times
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Please, please, please: Don't fall for any of this. The Donald, in case you've forgotten, has taken us all down this road before, when he spent months flirting with a third party bid for president in 2000. Just like now, he promised to tap his own vast fortune, attracted a torrent of publicity, and fared decently in polls -- around 15 percent in trial heats against Al Gore and George W. Bush. And just like now, he had something to promote: A new book (which came out in January 2000) and, well, the Trump brand. The only difference: Trump was pretending to run as independent, so instead of opposing abortion and giving aid and comfort to birthers, he claimed to be pro-choice and talked up universal healthcare and a massive income tax surcharge for the super-wealthy. When that charade finally came to an end in February 2000, the national chairman of the Reform Party -- whose nomination Trump had claimed to be interested in -- branded the New York plutocrat a "hustler." "Donald Trump came in, promoted his hotels, he promoted his book, he promoted himself at our expense, and I think he understands very fully that we've ended the possibilities for such abuse of our party," Pat Choate said. He added: "All this was, was a serious hustle of the media, and I think the media should send him a massive bill on it."
At this point - seeing that bolded part - any republican who wants Trump for president doens't give a shit about the positions or issues - they just want a rock star personality.
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they left out where he filed for bankruptcy 3 times
Perhaps because he never filed bankruptcy. He's a billionaire. Just fyi.
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Perhaps because he never filed bankruptcy. He's a billionaire. Just fyi.
Trump's casino operations filed twice, I think. Never trump personally, though.
He kept getting a $2 million paycheck while the company went thru its changes.
But hey, he's gonna change the wall street mentality that Bush/Obama gave us, huh? ;)
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Perhaps because he never filed bankruptcy. He's a billionaire. Just fyi.
yeah right, try 3 times. just fyi ;D ;D
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yeah right, try 3 times. just fyi ;D ;D
Wrong.
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i'm talking his businesses which is trump he runs them he controls them
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i'm talking his businesses which is trump he runs them he controls them
I see. You said "he" filed. Now you're saying his businesses and he controls them. Is he the sole shareholder? Does he have a board of directors? Is he an officer?
These are essentially rhetorical questions, because I am certain you have no clue.
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Trump: 'The Bush era gave us Obama'
The Hill ^
Trump: 'The Bush era gave us Obama' By Michael O'Brien - 03/30/11 10:09 AM ET
Real estate mogul broke Republicans' famous "11th Commandment" on Wednesday and went on the attack against former President George W. Bush, accusing his administration of leading to President Obama's.
Trump, the bombastic reality television star who's considering a run for the Republican nomination for president, said that the "mistakes" Bush made as president led directly to the election of Obama.
"I think the Bush era really hurt us," Trump said on conservative talker Laura Ingraham's radio show. "The Bush era gave us Obama."
Trump made the comments in context of the question of whether he thought dark-horse Republican figures like New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie or former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush would make good national candidates for the GOP.
Trump called Christie, a rock star among conservatives, a "really good friend of mine," and expressed some affection for Jeb Bush before noting the former president's unpopularity.
"In all fairness to Obama and Sarah Palin, you could not have won that election," Trump said. "At the moment, I just don't want to hear about Bush."
President Reagan, the Republican icon, had a famous "11th Commandment," ordering Republicans not to speak ill of other Republicans.
Bush still suffers from unfavorable ratings but has rebounded some since leaving office. A mid-March Pew Poll found that 42 percent of U.S. adults view the former Republican president favorably, while 54 percent view him unfavorably.
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It's Bush's fault. :D
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It's Bush's fault. :D
For even allowing a radical marxist scumbag like Obama to have the chance at being POTUS? Yes, that is Bushs' faut.
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For even allowing a radical marxist scumbag like Obama to have the chance at being POTUS? Yes, that is Bushs' faut.
It's the right of every NATURAL BORN US CITIZEN! ;) ;D
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It's the right of every NATURAL BORN US CITIZEN! ;) ;D
So - should Madoff and charles Manson run as well?
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So - should Madoff and charles Manson run as well?
tell me youre not serious
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tell me youre not serious
I would easily vote for Madoff or Charles Manson over obama in 2012 and you can quote me on that.
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So - should Madoff and charles Manson run as well?
Should? Remember its not about should or shouldn't. Its about law or no law. Right or no right.
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Trump: World Has a 'Muslim Problem'
Newsmax ^ | 03/30/2011 | Hiram Reisner
Potential 2012 GOP presidential contender Donald Trump says there “absolutely” is a Muslim problem in the world, and he “couldn’t believe” a mosque is being built near the site of the 9/11 attacks on the World Trade Center. Trump also told Fox News’ Bill O’Reilly Wednesday night it is important President Barack Obama produce his birth certificate, and put the issue to rest.
In the first part of an interview, the continuation of which will be aired Thursday night, Trump touched on a wide range of social and fiscal issues, including his opposition to gay marriage; his pro-life stance; his opinion that U.S. borders should be militarized to deter illegal immigration; his views on union activity; and the need to be able to shop for healthcare.
O’Reilly asked Trump whether there is a Muslim problem in the world.
“Absolutely, absolutely — I don’t notice Swedish people knocking down the World Trade Center,” Trump said. “I came out very strongly against the mosque being built virtually across the street.
“The fact is, it was so insensitive when they announced the mosque in that location,” he said. “Don’t forget, that’s my territory — Manhattan. When they announced the mosque in that location, I couldn’t believe it.”
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Trump: World Has a 'Muslim Problem'
Newsmax ^ | 03/30/2011 | Hiram Reisner
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Repubs are trying to win Iowa/the heart of repubs primary voters by competing over who hates muslims worse.
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I think he won my vote w this.
so no palin?
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Ill vote for trump over palin.
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He is a great businessman and would be a good bulldog in the race, but he doesn't come across as very polished. He can get away with clipped answers to some of the questions O'Reilly asked, but he'll have to be a lot more definitive if he jumps in the race. For example, he won't be able to get away with saying he opposes homosexual marriage because it doesn't "feel right."
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Watched the entire interview with O'Reilly. Trump brings some good things to the table. The straight talk, hard ball with foreign countries, and focus on fixing economic problems are good. I still don't think he's polished enough to be president. He also comes across as an impulsive hothead. Not the kind of person you want in control of our military and nuclear arsenal.
I think he could still play an important role in debates and in the national discussion by helping Republicans and Democrats focus on improving the country.
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He also comes across as an impulsive hothead. Not the kind of person you want in control of our military and nuclear arsenal.
I think he's a tad delusional. "we'll just TELL OPEC to lower prices".
Oh. just tell them what to do. And they'll do it.
And trashing china? There's a damn good reason that the last, oh, 10 US Presidents have gone out of their way to kiss china's ass most of the time. They own our debt, and could slash 5% of the lending tomorrow and cripple us financially.
Him trashing them is great for getting popular, but they will surely not like that when sitting down at the table with Prez Trump in 2013.
Not to mention his dealings - taking $$ from kadaffi? WTF, man...
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Trump Accuses Obama Of Warmongering While ‘Kiss[ing] Everybody’s Ass’
Mediaite ^ | 9:10 pm, March 31st, 2011 | Frances Martel
Donald Trump may be the only person in America to consider President Barack Obama a jingoist. In the final installment of his interview series with Bill O’Reilly the real estate magnate turned reality TV star turned 2012 hopeful pulled no punches on the President’s foreign policy in the Middle East, calling the perception of Obama as a non-interventionist erroneous given that “every time I look he’s going into another country.”
While yesterday’s interview segment focused on his interest in the President’s birth certificate, this time around O’Reilly quizzed Trump on issues that he would have to realistically face as President, particularly the struggle for stability in the Middle East. Trump apparently found the Bush doctrine of promoting democracy for democracy’s sake in the Middle East preposterous, noting that, in the old days, “when you won victories, you win… to the victor go the spoils.” He noted that leaving Iraq in the recent future would be an unwise move because it would give Iran space to attempt an invasion for control of the oil fields, and America is “not going to have enough heart to go back.” “If Iran is going to take over the oil, we stay and we keep the oil,” he argued simply. The objective, he said, was to “pay ourselves back a trillion and a half dollars more… and don’t be so stupid” that America invested in the Iraq war.
Calling himself a war scholar since “my whole life is a war,” Trump reiterated several times his belief that no war is complete without bringing something home. “A country goes in, they conquer, and they stay. We go in, we conquer, and we leave it to people we don’t even know.” This concern most vividly appeared with the current situation in Libya. Here, Trump argued that the Arab League should be paying America’s military costs– a point with which O’Reilly agreed– and noted his perception of President Obama as a warmonger. “Our weak president that kisses everybody’s ass is in more wars than anybody else,” he noted, sighing, “you’re talking about me like I’m a warmonger.”
While, as a businessman, Trump’s forte will always be in economic issues should he choose to run in 2012, his foreign policy rhetoric proved significantly more presidential than his complaints about Obama’s birth certificate, and will win him points among the more hawkish on the right and perhaps even corroborate his economic rhetoric.
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Trump Accuses Obama Of Warmongering While ‘Kiss[ing] Everybody’s Ass’
Saw that. Pretty funny. :)
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Trump on tour: Something 'fishy' about Obama
WND ^ | March 31, 2011 | Bob Unruh
Billionaire Donald Trump says Barack Obama probably is feeling "heat" from the questions he is raising about the president's eligibility to occupy the White House.
Trump, who says he will make a decision over the next few weeks whether he'll seek the GOP nomination for president in 2012, has continued his "eligibility tour," appearing on shows with both Laura Ingraham and Bill O'Reilly.
Ingraham, who has talked about the issues that have been raised occasionally, asked whether Trump was feeling pressure because he is raising the questions that mainstream media outlets have poked fun at while refusing to seriously investigate for the last two years.
Those focus on whether Obama meets the Constitution's requirements for presidents to be a "natural born Citizen." Some 100 lawsuits have raised the issue over the past 30 months.
"I don't feel heat. I think he's got heat," Trump told her. "He cannot give a birth certificate. I can. You can."
Later he told O'Reilly that two weeks ago when he started suggesting that Obama should be answering some questions and providing some information, he thought that "probably" Obama was eligible to be president. He said now his opinion has changed to that being only "possible."
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Donald Trump: Bill Ayers Wrote Obama's Book
Newser ^ | March 31, 2011 | Kevin Spak
Donald Trump isn’t content with questioning Obama’s citizenship—now he’s questioning his authorial accomplishments, too. In an interview with Laura Ingraham yesterday, Trump espoused the theory that Bill Ayers wrote Obama’s memoir, Dreams of My Father, Aol News reports. Obama is only the president “because he wrote a book that is supposed to be a great genius book,” Trump said. “But now it’s coming out that Bill Ayers wrote it.”
Trump’s repeating a rumor that’s been circling in right-wing media. Ayers himself said that he had written the book at a speaking appearance last week, though as Allahpundit at the conservative blog Hot Air notes, it sounded a lot like he was being sarcastic. “Would you believe that I wrote it?” he said when asked about the book. “And if you can help me prove it, I’ll split the royalties.” At that the audience burst out laughing. Ayers has reportedly used the line, complete with the royalties punch line, in the past as well.
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bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbooooooo ooooooommmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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"Donald Trump: Bill Ayers Wrote Obama's Book"
LMAO.........
He's officially a multi-CTer now.
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He must be scanning my threads for intel on bama.
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He must be scanning my threads for intel on bama.
Lol
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He must be scanning my threads for intel on bama.
Intel.. hahahaha.. dude you cut and paste articles... ::) you gots problems bro
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The only thing the world is laughing at is Trumps hair :o
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this asshole said "intel"..bro lay off the Call of Duty Black Ops..
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this asshole said "intel"..bro lay off the Call of Duty Black Ops..
::) ::)
The truth is coming out about bama.
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The truth is coming out about bama.
did you gather that intelligence data from your recon work on foxnews.com ::)
you know im gonna own you today right.. you better tread lightly.. fridays are the day i feel good and i just start breaking down all of your stupid ass rationale
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did you gather that intelligence data from your recon work on foxnews.com ::)
you know im gonna own you today right.. you better tread lightly.. fridays are the day i feel good and i just start breaking down all of your stupid ass rationale
Yeah ok douche.
Go ahread. 16 SS numbers and id fraud is the next item I have been discussing for months by the bama which is coming to light.
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Yeah ok douche.
Go ahread. 16 SS numbers and id fraud is the next item I have been discussing for months by the bama which is coming to light.
now you start callin names.. but you had the nerve to call someone immature.. yeah ok bro...
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now you start callin names.. but you had the nerve to call someone immature.. yeah ok bro...
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did you gather that intelligence data from your recon work on foxnews.com ::)
you know im gonna own you today right.. you better tread lightly.. fridays are the day i feel good and i just start breaking down all of your stupid ass rationale
He'll keep you busy. PEA BRAIN has all the time in the world. ::)
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Yeah ok douche.
Go ahread. 16 SS numbers and id fraud is the next item I have been discussing for months by the bama which is coming to light.
If Obama goes to prison for his fraudulent ID, what are the liberals going to say? They would probably push for a constitutional amendment to allow foreigners to be President. You know some idiots would be in the street holding signs to support their messiah.
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If Obama goes to prison for his fraudulent ID, what are the liberals going to say? They would probably push for a constitutional amendment to allow foreigners to be President. You know some idiots would be in the street holding signs to support their messiah.
The more I research obama, the more crazy shit I unearth. Some people say he was a CIA mole and i am beginning to believe that. He went to pakistan on an undisclosed passport a few times and no one knows why.
Its crazy shit all around.
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did you gather that intelligence data from your recon work on foxnews.com ::)
you know im gonna own you today right.. you better tread lightly.. fridays are the day i feel good and i just start breaking down all of your stupid ass rationale
too late,,,I did that already this morning in the "Obama's ass-kicking of 3333 continues" thread...check it out :D
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If Obama goes to prison for his fraudulent ID, what are the liberals going to say? They would probably push for a constitutional amendment to allow foreigners to be President. You know some idiots would be in the street holding signs to support their messiah.
Weren't some Republicans doing the same for Arnold???
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too late,,,I did that already this morning in the "Obama's ass-kicking of 3333 continues" thread...check it out :D
If that makes you feel all hopey changey, so be it.
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April 1, 2011
Donald Trump Gets Weirder
By GAIL COLLINS
Donald Trump has run faux campaigns for president before, flirting with the Democrats and independents. This time, he’s playing a conservative Republican. By 2016, he’ll probably be talking about his affinity for the Alaskan Independence Party or the Whigs.
And, of course, he’s suddenly a birther. “This guy either has a birth certificate or he doesn’t,” he said of President Obama. “I didn’t think this was such a big deal, but, I will tell you, it’s turning out to be a very big deal because people now are calling me from all over saying: please don’t give up on this issue.”
It was a perfect vocalization of the New York Street: People are calling me up! Don’t believe everything you hear, unless it comes over the phone.
In a potential Republican field that includes Michele Bachmann, Sarah Palin and Newt Gingrich, it’s hard to come up with a line of attack loopy enough to stand out from the pack. But darned if Trump didn’t manage to find one.
“If he wasn’t born in this country, it’s one of the greatest scams of all time,” Trump told Bill O’Reilly, who demurred: “I don’t think that’s the case.”
Vote for Donald Trump, the man who can make Bill O’Reilly look like the most sensible guy in the room.
Trump’s main argument for why he should be taken seriously as a presidential contender is his business success. Has Obama ever hosted a long-running reality series? Owned a bankruptcy-bound chain of casinos? Put his name on a flock of really unattractive high-rise apartment buildings? No!
“By now my name is big enough and equated with the gold standard to the extent that I don’t have to say too much about it,” wrote Trump in one of his books, before going on to say a lot more about it. He is extremely sensitive to any gibes about his business record, which has been up and down over the years.
During one down period, I referred to him in print as a “financially embattled thousandaire” and he sent me a copy of the column with my picture circled and “The Face of a Dog!” written over it.
Trump was one of the first people I interviewed when I came to New York as a reporter back in the ’80s when he was a developer-wunderkind who had started in the business with nothing but a smile, a dream and his father’s large holdings in real estate.
He’s still promoting, 24/7. Some people believe that his presidential flirtations are an attempt to draw viewers to his TV show, “Celebrity Apprentice.” In it, people who are alleged to be famous compete for money for their favorite charities and what one former contestant revealed was a salary of $16,000 apiece. That isn’t much for network TV work, but since one of this year’s celebrities, disgraced former steroid-using baseball player Jose Canseco, recently tried to make a $5,000 fee by sending his brother to impersonate him in an exhibition boxing match, you have to figure it comes in handy.
“Celebrity Apprentice” is widely regarded as terrible and cheesy programming, but, actually, it has its moments. I recently saw an episode in which a former top model had a serious discussion with a fellow competitor about whether this was the 20th century or the 21st. You can’t get stuff like that on “Mad Men.”
The series is a perfect reflection of Trump himself: an orgy of product-placement and personal aggrandizement. All the contestants, including the ones in their 70s, have to refer to their host as “Mr. Trump.” They all somberly devote themselves to making faux commercials about whatever enterprise has coughed up cash for a major mention that week. Then it’s off to the boardroom where people talk ceaselessly about their performance in order to stretch the whole enterprise into a low-cost, two-hour show.
When you think about it, “Celebrity Apprentice” has a lot in common with the current Republican presidential campaign. Endless blathering. Strange contenders who did something vaguely notable in 1986. And Donald Trump, looking extremely cheerful.
Beyond having the moral fortitude to tell Dionne Warwick she is fired, Trump’s qualifications for being president of the United States include having co-written a large number of books, including “Think Big and Kick Ass” (“People always ask me: ‘How did you get so rich?’ ”) and “Never Give Up.” (“This book is about a subject near and dear to my heart — never giving up.”)
To establish his birther creds, this week Trump produced his own birth certificate, after one failed attempt in which he came up with a document that was too weak to qualify for a passport. By the time he worked things out, we had an entire news cycle devoted to Donald Trump having been born in New York.
Now, let’s try asking to see his tax returns.
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Where is the long form bc?
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too late,,,I did that already this morning in the "Obama's ass-kicking of 3333 continues" thread...check it out :D
If you know anyone with a shred of objectivity, have them read the thread and tell you what's really going on there. I sent it to someone for that very reason.
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Weren't some Republicans doing the same for Arnold???
Yes... many of them.
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(http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2011/images/04/05/t1larg.trump4.jpg)
Trump to address Tea Party rally in Florida
By: CNN Political Unit
Washington (CNN) – Real estate mogul Donald Trump, whether he makes a run for president or not, is stepping up his political travels.
Trump's office confirms that he will address the South Florida Tea Party rally in Boca Raton April 16th, one of a number of tea party events planned around the country during the weekend before the tax deadline.
His appearance is the third event he plans to attend in early primary or caucus states important to the GOP. He will speak at the Iowa Republican Party's Lincoln Day dinner in Des Moines, and plans a June appearance at the traditional "Politics and Eggs" breakfast series in New Hampshire. Both are traditional stops for likely candidates
The Florida event is the Tea Party group's 3rd annual Tax Day rally, planned for Boca Raton's Sanborn Square.
South Florida Tea Party Chapter chairman Everett Wilkinson said he expects Trump to discuss tax reduction, and "his thoughts about how to get our country moving again".
"In every poll the Tea Party had, Donald Trump came out number one," Wilkinson said in a message to supporters. "America is tired of politicians giving speeches. We want to hear from people that have proven business experience. This should be an exciting day for America."
Trump has also maintained a busy non-political schedule, including a motivational speech in Spain and regular appearances on his NBC reality television series "Celebrity Apprentice." Despite hints he could enter the GOP field and seek the 2012 nomination for president, he has also been added to Fox News' lineup as a weekly contributor.
Trump special counsel Michael Cohen said he received 87 speaking requests for Trump Tuesday. Cohen founded the ShouldTrumpRun website that's not affiliated with Trump's company, and said that 84 of the 87 event requests were political.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/04/05/trump-to-address-tea-party-rally-in-florida/
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Trump / Rubio would be unbeatable.
He is firing on all cyclinders. He can get the indes with the oil/jobs/respect issue.
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Trump / Rubio would be unbeatable.
He is firing on all cyclinders. He can get the indes with the oil/jobs/respect issue.
you are in dream land again..Trump can't win because he doesn't have the tolerance for the rough and tumble...he is thin-skinned and prone to blow-ups where he personalizes things....not good for a president.....also Trump doesn't know the issues and would continually put his foot in his mouth just like Ross Perot did but he would be worse than Perot because at least Perot had some grasp of the issues
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Lmfao. As if obama knows any issues. Ha ha ha ha.
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Lmfao. As if obama knows any issues. Ha ha ha ha.
he must know something...he's the president.. ;)
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he must know something...he's the president.. ;)
Yeah he knows appealing to dumb blacks like yourself and others, like guilt ridden whites, and other idiots can get his ass elected. As for substantive issues, the man is a complete moron.
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he must know something...he's the president.. ;)
He knows how to read a speech well, and he knows how to create a slogan. Actually governing not so much
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Yeah he knows appealing to dumb blacks like yourself and others, like guilt ridden whites, and other idiots can get his ass elected. As for substantive issues, the man is a complete moron.
always gotta throw the race card in there when you obviously have nothing else....
OWNED AND MELTDOWN :)
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always gotta throw the race card in there when you obviously have nothing else....
OWNED AND MELTDOWN :)
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again..you got nothing....so you resort to the above in the middle of threads all the time then disappear
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Yeah he knows appealing to dumb blacks like yourself and others, like guilt ridden whites, and other idiots can get his ass elected. As for substantive issues, the man is a complete moron.
He is dumb because he dosent agree with you?
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He is dumb because he dosent agree with you?
He's dumb as shit.
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He's dumb as shit.
so what does that make you...you think youre smart?
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so what does that make you...you think youre smart?
I'm definately smarter than Obama no doubt. I have read more, scored better on my LSATS, have read more history, economics, and other subatantive books than he ever has, have run two businesses profitabaly for 8 years, and have more a clue on 99% of issues than your messiah ever has.
Obama could not get hired at Mickey D's w his record. Even people who worked with him said he never did a damn thing and was lazy as shit.
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I'm definately smarter than Obama no doubt. I have read more, scored better on my LSATS, have read more history, economics, and other subatantive books than he ever has, have run two businesses profitabaly for 8 years, and have more a clue on 99% of issues than your messiah ever has.
Obama could not get hired at Mickey D's w his record. Even people who worked with him said he never did a damn thing and was lazy as shit.
but he is President of the United States and you obsess over him on getbig..hahahahahahaahah ahaha
you know what he ate for breakfast.. and he dosent know you are a person on this planet
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but he is President of the United States and you obsess over him on getbig..hahahahahahaahah ahaha
you know what he ate for breakfast.. and he dosent know you are a person on this planet
people in business are obsessed with him because he is intentionally trying to collapse the nation and screw over smal business people to further his marxist/communist/islamist/crony capitalist agenda that 95% of gullible blacks and other morons are completely oblivious to.
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people in business are obsessed with him because he is intentionally trying to collapse the nation and screw over smal business people to further his marxist/communist/islamist/crony capitalist agenda that 95% of gullible blacks and other morons are completely oblivious to.
so.. why didnt you run, if youre smarter than obama
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people in business are obsessed with him because he is intentionally trying to collapse the nation and screw over smal business people to further his marxist/communist/islamist/crony capitalist agenda that 95% of gullible blacks and other morons are completely oblivious to.
333386 armchair quarterback ::)
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so.. why didnt you run, if youre smarter than obama
I like what I do and live in NYC in a predominately black, hispanic area. unless you are al Sharpton or some other poverty pimp or race hustler and scam artist, you dont get elected around here.
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I like what I do and live in NYC in a predominately black, hispanic area. unless you are al Sharpton or some other poverty pimp or race hustler and scam artist, you dont get elected around here.
So you rather be a pos screaming about obama on a bodybuilding site than be president of the united states.. ....and you are an esq...ok
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So you rather be a pos screaming about obama on a bodybuilding site than be president of the united states.. ....and you are an esq...ok
I'm just a average guy looking at the animals, savages, heathens, barbarians, scum, wortheless pieces of shit on the street with their pants around their ass, singing hip hop down the street, wearing obama shirts, around me and know the deal. I have been in the bronx my whole life and have seen far more than most.
I keep to myself around here and actually dont give a fuck about these worthless roaches. I do my thing and an thats it.
If they starve and die, fuck em, they are animals as far as I am concerned. Strike that - animals are better behaved than your average ghetto savage.
I had to break up a situation in a pizzaria near me recently where 8 savages went into the pizza place. One animal ordered one slice and the other 7 pieces of shit took up the remaining booths. The owner asked the others to either buy something or leave as they were making a ruckous and sending other paying custoers out the door and they laced into him with charges of racism, etc.
I told one fat disgustng bitch who belonged in the zoo "guess what you savage - your fat nasty ass will be on welfare the rest of your miserable life". I told another - "Hey - you will always have to buy pizza- but will never make it". She was upset, but I can throw dwn with anyone so she didnt step to me at all.
I really dont give a fuck any more. Seriously - if I had the power of the head zoo keeper in the bronx zoo - I would let the Giraffes out and put these idiots in the zoo.
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I'm just a average guy looking at the animals, savages, heathens, barbarians, scum, wortheless pieces of shit on the street with their pants around their ass, singing hip hop down the street, wearing obama shirts, around me and know the deal. I have been in the bronx my whole life and have seen far more than most.
I keep to myself around here and actually dont give a fuck about these worthless roaches. I do my thing and an thats it.
If they starve and die, fuck em, they are animals as far as I am concerned. Strike that - animals are better behaved than your average ghetto savage.
I had to break up a situation in a pizzaria near me recently where 8 savages went into the pizza place. One animal ordered one slice and the other 7 pieces of shit took up the remaining booths. The owner asked the others to either buy something or leave as they were making a ruckous and sending other paying custoers out the door and they laced into him with charges of racism, etc.
I told one fat disgustng bitch who belonged in the zoo "guess what you savage - your fat nasty ass will be on welfare the rest of your miserable life". I told another - "Hey - you will always have to buy pizza- but will never make it". She was upset, but I can throw dwn with anyone so she didnt step to me at all.
I really dont give a fuck any more. Seriously - if I had the power of the head zoo keeper in the bronx zoo - I would let the Giraffes out and put these idiots in the zoo.
Mealtdown..
and you didnt say shit to them
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Wrong. I called them animals.
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I told one fat disgustng bitch who belonged in the zoo "guess what you savage - your fat nasty ass will be on welfare the rest of your miserable life". I told another - "Hey - you will always have to buy pizza- but will never make it". She was upset, but I can throw dwn with anyone so she didnt step to me at all.
holy shit. I enjoy seeing you debate obama here - I'd hate to see you get arrested for capping someone. You'r carrying a gun, talking shit to 8 guys in a pizza parlor? That shit just screams CNN headline news - and unfortunately, it would benefit obama in a MAJOR WAY. imagine your posts here, using all sorts of racial texts.... your bragging about 45 guns... your intensive gun training... your talk on civil war 2....
hell, janet napalaneo would have a field day taking away our rights if you shot the place up. I'd advise you to get pizza delivered next time - or move :)
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holy shit. I enjoy seeing you debate obama here - I'd hate to see you get arrested for capping someone. You'r carrying a gun, talking shit to 8 guys in a pizza parlor? That shit just screams CNN headline news - and unfortunately, it would benefit obama in a MAJOR WAY. imagine your posts here, using all sorts of racial texts.... your bragging about 45 guns... your intensive gun training... your talk on civil war 2....
hell, janet napalaneo would have a field day taking away our rights if you shot the place up. I'd advise you to get pizza delivered next time - or move :)
I really dont give a shit. I see these worthless roaches for what they are, parasites, scum, and roaches. They are a blight and plague on the nation.
Anyone who spends more than 5 minutes around these barbarians knows I am telling the truth. Its funny, the guilt ridden white latte lbs whgo scream diversity and tolerance would nt last a day in the Bronx. they panzi and pussy white fags sit in judgment from their little safe cul de sacs would not step foot in the south bronx yet try to tell my what to think. Fuck them.
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I really dont give a shit. I see these worthless roaches for what they are, parasites, scum, and roaches. They are a blight and plague on the nation.
Anyone who spends more than 5 minutes around these barbarians knows I am telling the truth. Its funny, the guilt ridden white latte lbs whgo scream diversity and tolerance would nt last a day in the Bronx. they panzi and pussy white fags sit in judgment from their little safe cul de sacs would not step foot in the south bronx yet try to tell my what to think. Fuck them.
What if that part of NY is designed to be a collection pool for all teh dirtbags? You may want to consider moving to a nicer place?
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What if that part of NY is designed to be a collection pool for all teh dirtbags? You may want to consider moving to a nicer place?
I'm trying to sell my place and go to Connecticut. I'm already picking up clients in connecticut by the week and looking for a place with access to the Metro North.
Otherwise, I am trying to get the hell out of this cesspool known as the Bronx.
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I'm trying to sell my place and go to Connecticut. I'm already picking up clients in connecticut by the week and looking for a place with access to the Metro North.
Otherwise, I am trying to get the hell out of this cesspool known as the Bronx.
the south bronx.. the south south bronx..
the south bronx.. the south south bronx
Boogie Down Productions
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the south bronx.. the south south bronx..
the south bronx.. the south south bronx
Boogie Down Productions
No kidding. Even KRS, Jennifer Lopez, does not live here any more.
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I'm trying to sell my place and go to Connecticut. I'm already picking up clients in connecticut by the week and looking for a place with access to the Metro North.
Otherwise, I am trying to get the hell out of this cesspool known as the Bronx.
first of all, the Bronx is NOT a cesspool as you put it...it is a community that has improved tremendously.....the problem with you is that anywhere there are minorities will be a cesspool to you
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Trump’s Hawaii Investigation Wednesday, April 6, 2011
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Oval Office Showdown +
Tells “Today” he has people in the Aloha State conducting on-the-ground research into the president’s birthplace.
MEREDITH VIEIRA:
So, is the time right now for you?
DONALD TRUMP:
Well, the time certainly is right. We’re a laughing stock as a country throughout the world. We’re being taken advantage of by other countries
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MEREDITH VIEIRA:
If you were President, would keep a military presence in Iraq indefinitely.
DONALD TRUMP:
Let me just say something. There’s nobody more militaristic than me, but it’s also called attack the right target. Iran is going to take over Iraq, because we have de-neutered Iraq, you know that, in terms of their military. They’re gonna take them over very quickly as soon as we leave. If that’s gonna happen, they’re gonna take over the oil fields. The second biggest oil fields in the world. And if that’s gonna happen, I say we take over the oil fields…I would take over the oil fields, because otherwise, Iran is gonna take over the second biggest oil fields in the world. I would absolutely, without question, not leave that section of that country. I would take the oil. To the victor belong the spoils. You know, in the old days, you’d have a war. And you’d be in there. And you’d win. And you’d take over the country. Whether it’s oil or gold or whatever. You take over the country.
MEREDITH VIEIRA:
Okay. Are you saying if you were President, you would take us out of Afghanistan?
DONALD TRUMP:
Well, nothing’s simple. Because I don’t believe in foot soldiers. They get blown up on streets. But I do believe in airplanes that are 50,000 feet up. And when we see through intelligence what’s going on, knock the hell out. Oh, by the way, I’m much more militaristic than Obama. He got the Nobel Peace Prize, but, you know, I think they’re probably rethinking that one, every time he seizes a country. The problem is he seizes countries, but he doesn’t win….I’m not gonna have soldiers walking down on the street and get blown up and get shot at by snipers and killed, so we have to call the parents and say, "Your son was just killed on a street in Afghanistan." But those people will have a lot more problems with me than they’re having right now. But I do it through the air and we’re not gonna have casualties.
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MEREDITH VIEIRA:
Do you think given all the issues that this country is facing that this is something that resonates with the public? That they care about this?
DONALD TRUMP:
The Constitution of the United States…great document. And you agree with it?
MEREDITH VIEIRA:
Yeah, sure.
DONALD TRUMP:
It says you have to be born in this country. Essential. Have to be born in this country, okay? If he wasn’t born in this country, he has conned the whole world.
MEREDITH VIEIRA:
But you’re saying it’s a con. That’s what you’re saying.
DONALD TRUMP:
I’m not saying anything. I’m saying--
MEREDITH VIEIRA:
Sure you are.
DONALD TRUMP:
I am saying I want to see the birth certificate. It’s very simple. I want to see the birth certificate. How come his own family doesn’t know which hospital he was born in? How come-- forget about birth certificates. Let’s say there’s no birth certificate. How come in the hospital itself, okay? This is one of the…in the hospital itself, there’s no records of his birth. In other words, it doesn’t say how much they paid, where is the doctor, here’s your room bill. You know, all the
MEREDITH VIEIRA:
You’ve been privy to all of this to know this?
DONALD TRUMP:
Well, I have people that actually have been studying it and they cannot believe what they’re talking.
MEREDITH VIEIRA:
You have people now out there searching-- I mean, in Hawaii?
DONALD TRUMP:
Absolutely. And they cannot believe what they’re finding. And I’m serious--***
MEREDITH VIERA:
You criticized Obama quite a bit in this interview and in the past. What do you think he has done well?
DONALD TRUMP:
I think the thing that he did best of all, is get elected. Get elected. He ran an unbelievable campaign although, in the end, Hillary was beating him in every state. It was pretty-- I mean, by the end, I think people were maybe getting wise. And, you have to understand, I want Obama to do well. I don't dislike him. I never met him….
If I had my choice of having Obama do great as a president, and do a really great job for this country, and not running, as opposed to running - I'd prefer that he did a great job. I love this country. But, this country is going to hell.
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MEREDITH VIERA:
Among those potential Republican candidates, can you point to any of them and say, "That person would be a fine president"?
DONALD TRUMP:
Well, you know, it's funny. They've all treated me so nicely. They've been so great… I'm not gonna go on any individual, but I will tell you I understand them. I know many of them…
I know this. I will be better than anybody. I will do the best job. If I decide to run, I will do the best job. I will be best for this country. And, you may say, "Oh, gee, that doesn't sound like George Washington." Well, guess what? Before George Washington ran, he didn't sound like George Washington either. I will be and do a great job, if I run and if I win.
http://nation.foxnews.com/donald-trump/2011/04/06/trump-i-have-investigators-hawaiithey-cannot-believe-what-theyre-finding
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Donald Trumps Obama
WorldNetDaily ^ | April 6, 2011 | Chrissy Satterfield
Posted on Wednesday, April 06, 2011 10:25:29
Before we know it 2012 will be here, and I can't wait! I have a new hero who has been called many things – "The Donald," entrepreneur, real estate tycoon. I call him SMART. I watched his interview with Bill O'Reilly just this week, and I was blown away. He is exactly what this country needs, and my fingers are crossed hoping he officially decides to run for president in 2012.
When I first heard he wanted to run, I was extremely skeptical. Considering how vapid and shallow the Trump-led Miss USA Organization is, without a talent portion and basing most of its scores on looks, I was on the fence about him. I thought to myself, "No way is this guy serious." He's portrayed as cruel and heartless on "The Apprentice." How could this guy compete with the heavyweights? During the interview with O'Reilly, I realized he could actually turn this country around and give us the hope Obama couldn't deliver.
People assume Trump is all talk, but he has walked the walk. Maybe not for the country just yet, but for his company and his brand he has been successful at nearly everything. He isn't just some shlub celebrity that spouts off at the mouth every chance he gets. Sure, he and Rosie O'Donnell had their words, but that woman had it coming. He's educated; he's a businessman with his mindset on making the United States great again – and I believe he could.
"We take care of everyone else but our own," Trump explained to O'Reilly. He's absolutely right. We aren't the first thing on Obama's to-do list. He has to golf, play basketball, kiss China's behind, invade Libya, go vacationing.....
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Trump: "This Country Is Going To Hell"
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/04/07/trump_this_country_is_going_to_hell.html
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Donald Trump discusses his possible run for the Republican presidential nomination, Libya and President Obama's record.
"I love this country, but this country is going to hell," he says. "I would run a great, great country. This country will be great again. It is not great right now. We have huge deficits, we have huge unemployment, we have huge problems. And we're not respected. We're not respected in the world. The world laughs at us. They won't be laughing if I'm president."
Posted on April 7, 2011
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Anyone wanna take bets on whether Trump even runs?
Or... whether or not he gets a republican nod?
He'll get crushed in the primaries... Especially when someone brings up all of his liberal leanings.
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Anyone wanna take bets on whether Trump even runs?
Or... whether or not he gets a republican nod?
He'll get crushed in the primaries... Especially when someone brings up all of his liberal leanings.
He will steam roll the primaries easily. GOP primary will be mostly birthers, tea party, etc, and right now, he is their favorite. Hucksteris not running, palin probably wont and she likes Trump, Romney cant win, T-Paw is boring as shit.
If he spend a few dollars and stays on the china, trade, oil, opec, respect isse, he wll win easily.
An if gas is $5 a gallon for a year, Obama is so done its not funny.
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He will steam roll the primaries easily. GOP primary will be mostly birthers, tea party, etc, and right now, he is their favorite. Hucksteris not running, palin probably wont and she likes Trump, Romney cant win, T-Paw is boring as shit.
If he spend a few dollars and stays on the china, trade, oil, opec, respect isse, he wll win easily.
An if gas is $5 a gallon for a year, Obama is so done its not funny.
Wanna have a wager?
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Wanna have a wager?
Of what?
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Of what?
That trump doesn't win the Republican nod.
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Seeing a debate wih him and bama wouldbe amazing. Bama would fold into a fetal position.
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Morning Jay: The Donald Attacks!
The Weekly Standard ^ | 4/8/2011 | Jay Cost
Donald Trump going after Obama on the Today Show strikes me as a big deal. A lot of the attention from the various Trump interviews has been directed at his unsubstantiated comments about Obama’s birth certificate. However, I think there is another angle here worth considering. Put those comments aside and listen to what is a very clear, direct critique of President Obama’s tenure.
I hate what’s happening to the country…What we’re doing is unbelievable. If you look at what’s going on, where our jobs are disappearing to foreign countries…You’re going paying 7 or 8 dollars a gallon for your oil soon.
I blame a lot (on Obama). It’s been a terrible presidency…
What’s going on with this country, the way we’re spending money like drunken sailors, we are just absolutely…going to destroy our own freedom...
If there is a shutdown, I think it would be a tremendously negative mark on the president of the United States. He’s the one who has to get people together. I’m a deal man. I’ve made hundreds and hundreds of deals and transactions. He’s never done deals before…How’s he going to corral all these people?...You don’t have the right leader…
I think Obamacare is a total disaster…This country is going to hell.
There is something notable about this. Here is a high profile public figure with a hit television show. He doesn’t have a reputation for being a partisan political operative, and he comes on the Today Show (of all places!) to denounce the president in clear and unequivocal terms. That is something we have not seen yet during Obama’s term.
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TRUMP TO OBAMA: YOU'RE FIRED
boblonsberry.com ^ | 04/08/11 | Bob Lonsberry
Trump to Obama: You’re fired.
As kooky as it sounds, as improbable as the whole thing seems, I’m fired up about Donald Trump.
Maybe it’s a commentary on him, maybe it’s a commentary on contemporary politics, but it actually makes sense to me.
We know him, we respect him, we like him.
And that’s two or three better than the others.
Yes, his supposed candidacy is probably nothing more than a publicity stunt, an effort to increase his profile and line his pocket. But then, the same is probably true of Sarah Palin and Mike Huckabee and the perpetual never-ran, Rudy Giuliani.
But if he’s serious, so am I.
Mostly, I’m a Romney man. But in a back-alley brawl, I want Trump.
And anybody who thinks international relations are anything other than a back-alley brawl is nuts.
We need somebody to stand up to the Chinese and we need somebody to balance the books. We need somebody who knows how to make decisions and go toe-to-toe with anybody who stands in his way.
And we need somebody who speaks his mind, who doesn’t pussyfoot around trying not to step on toes.
We need somebody who says what he means and feels, and who doesn’t craft every sentence as a sound byte meant to propagandize us.
Other than the hair, Donald Trump looks like America. Not in terms of his outward appearance, but his internal strengths and weaknesses. He is a guy who wears his warts and his confidence on his sleeve. He talks loud, lives big and fills rooms.
And it’s about time we had a president who walked tall.
For more than 20 years, Donald Trump has been a public figure. He has had his ups and downs, his marriages and his bankruptcies. But he has always come out on top, he has always been fascinating, and he has always had the all-American daring do that made this country great.
Certainly, on paper, he’s nothing like a presidential candidate, which may be all the more reason why he’s the perfect candidate.
He hasn’t been polished, he hasn’t been managed, he hasn’t been packaged.
He’s just The Donald.
He says he’s tea party, he says he’s free enterprise, he says he’s America first.
He says we have to balance the budget, we have to stop deficit spending, we have to balance our trade, we have to put ourselves first.
All those things are right.
And for the first time, someone has discussed the birth certificate who hasn’t come off like a psycho.
Personally, I’m more than 90 percent sure that Barack Obama was born in Hawaii, just like he says. Personally, I’ve been put off by the conspiratorial birthers and their crazy theories.
But, personally, when I hear Donald Trump talk about this issue, it doesn’t sound crazy. His questions sound reasonable. He says he doesn’t know where Barack Obama was born.
And maybe we don’t know either.
It is interesting that there is no paper trail. I was born in a tiny backwoods hospital that was torn down shortly after I was born. Yet there is documentation all over the place that I was born there, that my mother was a patient there, that her mother paid the bill there, that I was taken to doctor’s visits there.
And I don’t get why it’s not the same way with Barack Obama.
But wherever Barack Obama was born, it is refreshing that Donald Trump would talk about it. No one else will touch it with a10-foot pole. Why? Because they are afraid of looking dumb, because they guard their every word in a effort to package themselves well.
Trump doesn’t care about that stuff.
He is who he is and if you don’t like it you can kiss his backside.
And that’s the sort of guy we yearn for as president.
The ability to lead is an interesting thing. Many people want it, and study it, and presume it, but rarely have it. Donald Trump seems to have that ability. In a roomful of people, he would be the one to whom the others would look.
Whether it’s life experience, or demeanor, or just plain grit, he’s got it.
And the others really don’t.
And if he’s serious, so am I.
Trump to Obama: You’re deported.
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I would vote for him over anyone else at this point.
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Why Republican voters are warming to Donald Trump for 2012
csmonitor.com ^ | 4/8/2011 | Peter Grier
Why is he doing so well among adherents of the GOP? Perhaps because he’s running as if he were already the party’s boss, as opposed to the other candidates, who may seem like applicants for the job, comparatively speaking.
Mr. Trump’s CEO-like forcefulness has been on full display in his recent spate of television interviews. What do we do in Iraq? Stay and keep the oil! How do we handle China’s rise? Slap a 25 percent tariff on Chinese goods! Was President Obama born in America? There’s no proof – and I’m sending investigators to Hawaii to check into the story!
“It’s all about leadership. You have to be able to make deals,” Trump said Thursday on CNN.
Trump doesn’t back down when challenged. In the face of tough questions from interviewers, he’s doubled down on the whole where-was-Obama-born question, for instance. He waves away evidence such as Obama’s certificate of live birth from a hospital in Hawaii and contemporaneous birth announcements placed in Hawaiian newspapers.
“He could’ve been born in Kenya and gone over to the United States,” Trump said on CNN.
He’s even summoned an Arizona state lawmaker who’s the author of a so-called “birther” bill to meet him at Trump HQ in New York. Republican state Rep. Carl Seel’s legislation would require presidential candidates to prove that they were born in the United States to be eligible for the state’s electoral votes.
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Why a Donald Trump Presidency will Trump All (Some Dems have had enough of Zero)
Business Insider ^ | April 11, 2011 | Alan Dunn
When it comes to choosing political parties I have been Democrat since the time I was allowed to vote. My family has different party affiliations and the people in my life choose one party over the other for reasons of their own. Ultimately no one forced me to become a Democrat, it just happened.
Under George W. Bush the Republican Party reminded me of exactly why I choose to be Democrat yet the Obama presidency has left me to wonder why I choose any party at all.
Politics may be very well about choosing a side and making sure the stars line up to have your side collectively come to a decision but when it comes to getting things done we need someone who has experience on the street, after all how worse can things get?
When the Yankees are down 3-1 in the 9th inning you can bet a designated hitter may be called up. Well, we are down 16 Trillion dollars so don’t you think it’s time to vote someone in office who has a hit home run or two?
Donald Trump may not be the best candidate for president however do we need another politician in charge or someone who is actually aware of the financial mess America is in and has a personal interest in making the country whole again?
Some of the most successful political and global leaders in the world have all come from men and women with entrepreneurial backgrounds yet in America we hardly ever ask questions about a political candidate’s actual experience and vote based on how they make you smile, what party they are affiliated with and more unrelated factors to the actual ability of the person to do the job.....
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Stupid thread. End of thread.
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Stupid thread. End of thread.
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Obama is at 44% at gallup. After a year of $5 a gallon gas, hyprinflation about to explode - even Madoff/Vandersloot 2012 would beat obama.
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Obama is at 44% at gallup. After a year of $5 a gallon gas, hyprinflation about to explode - even Madoff/Vandersloot 2012 would beat obama.
Stupid facts. End of thread.
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Obama is at 44% at gallup. After a year of $5 a gallon gas, hyprinflation about to explode - even Madoff/Vandersloot 2012 would beat obama.
and you would vote for them because they are white ;)
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Donald Trump fires back after White House aide declares that he has 'zero chance' to be President
New YorK Daily News ^ | 04/11/2011 | Lukas I. Alpert
The White House stopped just short of dismissing Donald Trump as a clown Sunday - calling him a "sideshow" act with "zero chance" of becoming president.
SNIP
Trump countered that he represents Obama's biggest nightmare in the 2012 race and that the White house is running scared.
"I know for a fact that I am the only candidate they are concerned with," Trump told The Daily News. "They are very concerned because I am challenging him as to whether or not he was born in this country where there is a real doubt."
"He should focus on properly dealing with the Chinese, the Saudis and all of the other nations that are ripping off the United States instead of making up quotes about Donald Trump," the "Apprentice" host blustered on. "Barack Obama has done a terrible job as president."
While Trump is not viewed as having a real chance at winning the presidency, experts say his remarks cut to the core of what irks the White House the most, which explains the hostility behind Plouffe's diss.
"There is no issue that irritates the White House more than the birther issue," said Larry Sabato, director of the University of Virginia's Center for Politics.
"They view it as a symbol for those who refuse to acknowledge Obama as a legitimate president," he said. "The fact that someone as prominent as Trump is bringing this up is a source of real frustration."
Sabato predicted that despite the noise Trump is making, he would soon fade away.
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Donald Trump fires back after White House aide declares that he has 'zero chance' to be President
New YorK Daily News ^ | 04/11/2011 | Lukas I. Alpert
The White House stopped just short of dismissing Donald Trump as a clown Sunday - calling him a "sideshow" act with "zero chance" of becoming president.
SNIP
Trump countered that he represents Obama's biggest nightmare in the 2012 race and that the White house is running scared.
"I know for a fact that I am the only candidate they are concerned with," Trump told The Daily News. "They are very concerned because I am challenging him as to whether or not he was born in this country where there is a real doubt."
"He should focus on properly dealing with the Chinese, the Saudis and all of the other nations that are ripping off the United States instead of making up quotes about Donald Trump," the "Apprentice" host blustered on. "Barack Obama has done a terrible job as president."
While Trump is not viewed as having a real chance at winning the presidency, experts say his remarks cut to the core of what irks the White House the most, which explains the hostility behind Plouffe's diss.
"There is no issue that irritates the White House more than the birther issue," said Larry Sabato, director of the University of Virginia's Center for Politics.
"They view it as a symbol for those who refuse to acknowledge Obama as a legitimate president," he said. "The fact that someone as prominent as Trump is bringing this up is a source of real frustration."
Sabato predicted that despite the noise Trump is making, he would soon fade away.
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Bill Cosby said it best... "Run for President... or shut the fuck up Bitch"
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Ha ha ha ha ha - the way bama is going - Re Run from whats happening would beat bama.
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and you would vote for them because they are white ;)
Oh look, a far-lefty playing the race card. Never seen that before!
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Ha ha ha ha ha - the way bama is going - Re Run from whats happening would beat bama.
right.. so how muh you wanna bet that he dosent win
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right.. so how muh you wanna bet that he dosent win
Who - Re Run?
As far as Bama - as of today I am 75% sure he will lose.
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Who - Re Run?
As far as Bama - as of today I am 75% sure he will lose.
Trump.. i bet you he dosent make it to the primaries...and what is your 75% based off.. how did you calculate that number?
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Trump.. i bet you he dosent make it to the primaries...and what is your 75% based off.. how did you calculate that number?
$5 dollar gasoline
Rampant inflation due to Bernake/Obama's spending spree
Employment situation is still horrific. Lowest labor particpation rate on record for decades.
Growing new and older wars.
WTF energy policies.
Health Care premiuims skyrocketing.
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$5 dollar gasoline
Rampant inflation due to Bernake/Obama's spending spree
Employment situation is still horrific. Lowest labor particpation rate on record for decades.
Growing new and older wars.
WTF energy policies.
Health Care premiuims skyrocketing.
But what quantifiable number scientifically calculates to 75%?
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But what quantifiable number scientifically calculates to 75%?
1. Bama won by 6% last time. He did not have a record and guilted a lot of idiot whites to vote for him. Those are the squishy moderate saps who will either stay home or vote gop this time.
2. blacks blew their wad last time by massively comi out for bama last time. even with that bama only won by 6%.
3. The nation wanted "change" in 2008 and obama was able to use that against bush etc. So this time, its bullshit - bama has delivered a ton of change - for the worse, and represents the status quo of reckless out of contrl govt.
4. Hispanics are not going to showup for him like they did last time. Between the gay nonsense, his failure to deliver amnesty, and the fact that tons ar still out of work, they will probably stay home.
5. College idiots are notgoing to buy into the hype like last time since bama has a record of failure now.
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1. Bama won by 6% last time. He did not have a record and guilted a lot of idiot whites to vote for him. Those are the squishy moderate saps who will either stay home or vote gop this time.
2. blacks blew their wad last time by massively comi out for bama last time. even with that bama only won by 6%.
3. The nation wanted "change" in 2008 and obama was able to use that against bush etc. So this time, its bullshit - bama has delivered a ton of change - for the worse, and represents the status quo of reckless out of contrl govt.
4. Hispanics are not going to showup for him like they did last time. Between the gay nonsense, his failure to deliver amnesty, and the fact that tons ar still out of work, they will probably stay home.
5. College idiots are notgoing to buy into the hype like last time since bama has a record of failure now.
ok you obviously dont understand what im asking.. its cool
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I believe those factors represent a 75% chance Bama loses.
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http://www.gallup.com/Home.aspx
Bama is at 45%. If he is at or near this next year - he is donezo.
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Great video from today on CNBC re: oil and china.
http://www.cnbc.com/id/42532489
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I believe those factors represent a 75% chance Bama loses.
Ok.. but you pulled that 75% number out of your ass.. correct.. you said
this plus that plus this minus that=...um i guess ill say a good 75%.. lol..
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Ok.. but you pulled that 75% number out of your ass.. correct.. you said
this plus that plus this minus that=...um i guess ill say a good 75%.. lol..
Its my guess. I leave 25% chance right now he wins forother unknown factors still two years out. But as of now - $5 gas, inflation, joblessness, coming debt/currency crisis, and all the other bullshit things he does and represents most likely means he is going away, thankfully.
He is a disaster, a disgrace, a grifter, a madoff, and an incompetent jerkoff.
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Its my guess. I leave 25% chance right now he wins forother unknown factors still two years out. But as of now - $5 gas, inflation, joblessness, coming debt/currency crisis, and all the other bullshit things he does and represents most likely means he is going away, thankfully.
He is a disaster, a disgrace, a grifter, a madoff, and an incompetent jerkoff.
un.. ok.. i was just wondered what numbers you attributed to his "disasters" and how you came up with 75%
Im guessing you arent using anything based on numerical facts..calculate
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un.. ok.. i was just wondered what numbers you attributed to his "disasters" and how you came up with 75%
Im guessing you arent using anything based on numerical facts..calculate
Using my best guess based on what I know is coming a a direct result of his horrific policies in spending like there is no tommorow, implementing WTF policies on the economy, etc. .
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Donald Trump Responds To David Plouffe: I’m Obama’s ‘Worst Nightmare’ (video link)
mediaite.com ^ | 4/11/2011 | Matt Schneider
White House Senior Advisor David Plouffe yesterday suggested that Donald Trump is a “sideshow” with “zero chance” of being elected President. Plouffe likely expected that there was “zero chance” Trump would hear such remarks and not be eager to retaliate, which of course he did
Trump’s response on Fox & Friends this morning:
“Obviously I hit a nerve because they’re fighting me I don’t hear them talking about Mr. Pawlenty or anybody else. They’re talking only about Trump. And I can tell you, I’m their worst nightmare. I am not the person that they want to run against. And they know it and I know it.”
Even more enjoyable than hearing a potential presidential candidate refer to themselves by their own last name, is how seamlessly Trump transitions from suggesting Obama is doing a “terrible job” to discussing how great Celebrity Apprentice was last night and how shocked he is that Gary Busey survived another week. And another week of the Trump “sideshow” begins.
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Donald Trump Responds To David Plouffe: I’m Obama’s ‘Worst Nightmare’ (video link)
mediaite.com ^ | 4/11/2011 | Matt Schneider
White House Senior Advisor David Plouffe yesterday suggested that Donald Trump is a “sideshow” with “zero chance” of being elected President. Plouffe likely expected that there was “zero chance” Trump would hear such remarks and not be eager to retaliate, which of course he did
Trump’s response on Fox & Friends this morning:
“Obviously I hit a nerve because they’re fighting me I don’t hear them talking about Mr. Pawlenty or anybody else. They’re talking only about Trump. And I can tell you, I’m their worst nightmare. I am not the person that they want to run against. And they know it and I know it.”
Even more enjoyable than hearing a potential presidential candidate refer to themselves by their own last name, is how seamlessly Trump transitions from suggesting Obama is doing a “terrible job” to discussing how great Celebrity Apprentice was last night and how shocked he is that Gary Busey survived another week. And another week of the Trump “sideshow” begins.
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LOL.. and that hypes you up right.. this is funny
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Trump will not only beat obama like Patton did Rommel an race acrss Europe - he will completely destroy the far left communist treasonous left and get at least 44 states like in 1984.
Even hardcore libs I know are sick of bama and his incompetent shit.
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"I know for a fact that I am the only candidate they are concerned with," Trump told The Daily News.
Statements like this are complete douchebag talk. Seriously, this "I'm awesome, I think everyone knows that, especially you less awesome people who are in awe of my awesomeness".
He's not running. He did this in 88 and 2000 and morons bought into it them. I think 333386 should keep a Trump 2012 avatar until 2013, once trump declines, as a reminder of that cawk-slurp, groupee mentality.
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Yawn - you want Romney to run - lose 48 52 and then blame evangielicals who could not vote for a mormon andthen suck cock for obama. Bro - your kneepad game is so obvious and transparent its not funny.
Your pathetic troll job to suck cock for bama and his idiot minions realy destroyed whatever cred you once had.
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Yawn - you want Romney to run - lose 48 52 and then blame evangielicals who could not vote for a mormon andthen suck cock for obama. Bro - your kneepad game is so obvious and transparent its not funny.
Your pathetic troll job to suck cock for bama and his idiot minions realy destroyed whatever cred you once had.
At this point, he's just a sad troll. Not to be taken seriously.
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At this point, he's just a sad troll. Not to be taken seriously.
The worst part is that he does not thnk people are on this this by now.
Its like - make up your damn mind already!
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The worst part is that he does not thnk people are on this this by now.
Its like - make up your damn mind already!
But thats your problem.. you think people should be all or against everything.. that is a very dumb ass retarded way to think. You ignore record and go for the loudest mouth against obama.
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But thats your problem.. you think people should be all or against everything.. that is a very dumb ass retarded way to think. You ignore record and go for the loudest mouth against obama.
Charles Manson has a better record than Bama.
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Charles Manson has a better record than Bama.
you see.. thats why i cant have a serious discussion.. when backed into a corner.. throw out some extreme hyperbole to lighten the mood.. so for all the bull shit you accuse 240 of.. jesus h christ are you a freaking cartoon, to be taken with the same level of seriousness
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Donald Trump slams Bill Cosby as not 'honest'
Politico ^ | April 11, 2011 | MAGGIE HABERMAN
"While I have never been a fan of Cosby’s, I had always assumed he liked or respected me because every time I met him — the last time at the David Letterman show where I preceded him as a guest — he was always so nice, saying 'let’s get together' —— asking me out to dinner, and being polite to the point of offering to buy me a suit because he has a 'great tailor,'" Trump said.
“In any event, as I watched the show, the subject of Donald Trump came up. I was surprised to hear him blabber, somewhat incoherently 'you run or shut up,' " Trump added, saying Cosby must know that "I cannot run until this season of 'Celebrity Apprentice' ends."
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Donald Trump Scores an Important Victory... Over the Media
American Thinker ^ | April 11, 2011 | Seth Forman [/youtube]
Donald Trump is a shameless self-promoter. His prowess as a developer and businessman has been greatly exaggerated. He has crawled around in the muck and mire of what now passes for popular culture, and deserves at least some of the blame for tawdry's victory over grace in that sphere. He is an outsized egotist (about on a par with Obama) whose passion for self-congratulation is the only reliable thing we know about him. And that his future candidacy for president may soon be taken seriously owes to no one so much as it does Barack Obama, whose own candidacy seriously eroded the standards for presidential qualification.
But Trump has achieved something important. His decision to focus like a laser on Obama's failure to produce a birth certificate has highlighted the absolute corruption of the American media on the subject of Obama, and the dangers of power granted in the absence of an unaligned press.
Given that Obama's primary claim to the presidency has been his compelling life story -- his biracialism, his international upbringing, especially the time he spent in Muslim lands -- the media has shown shockingly little interest in several pieces of information about Obama's life which might legitimately concern voters. Nowhere in his biographies, for example, does Obama mention his 1981 trip to Pakistan, where he stayed with influential political leaders from that country at a time when a State Department advisory warned U.S. citizens against travel to Pakistan. There has also been a strange disinterest in Obama's 2006 trip to Kenya where, as a sitting U.S. senator, Obama criticized the incumbent government (a U.S. ally) and barnstormed with a Marxist candidate he supported. So too, there has been nary a peep among media elites over Obama's funding of the radical "education" work of bomb thrower Bill Ayers, or his own work on behalf of the activist group ACORN, the now defunct largest purveyor of voter registration fraud in American history (and, apparently, an enabler of under aged prostitution.).
One of the functions of the media is to protect the public from fraudulent statements made by public figures. The unwillingness of the media to fulfill this role in the case of Obama has led to significant, and probably needless, public tension. Obama's resistance to releasing the long version of his birth certificate, has served not only to raise legitimate speculation about the circumstances surrounding his birth, but to give fodder to anti-Obama extremists.
Gail Collins, the New York Times's most reliably uninteresting liberal attack dog, questioned Trump's sanity just for raising the birth certificate issue. But would she say the same about famed black Vanderbilt University Law Professor and Obama supporter Carol Swain? Swain has said "I think that by not releasing it [the full birth certificate], it makes people much more passionately opposed to the president. Moreover, for a president who was elected on the basis of his personal background, it is troubling that Obama himself would want to withhold such basic information."
The media's curiosity about the background of those running for national office seemed to know no bounds when it came to George W. Bush's service in the Texas Air National Guard or the sexual behavior of Alaska Governor Sarah Palin's daughter. But during and since the 2008 campaign a virtual wall of silence has been constructed around Obama.
This has important implications for the country. Questions about Obama's family and his relationship to Islam, for example, and hence his world view, remain subjects of speculation. Former CIA officer Larry Johnson, for example, believes that the full birth record from the State of Hawaii was probably amended in 1968 to show Obama was adopted by his step father, the Indonesian Muslim Lolo Soetoro, that he became formally known for a time as "Barry Soetoro," and may even have his religion listed as Muslim. This would completely change what Obama has said about his past and represent a public fraud of a very significant magnitude.
At the very least the full record might help explain Obama's strange discomfort with exercising American power against radical Muslim regimes in Libya and elsewhere, where he has farmed out the defense of American interests to the United Nations, and his insistence on "dialogue" with rogue Muslim regimes in Syria and Iran. All of this while touting the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt and Al Qaeda associated Muslim opposition groups in Libya as democracy craving freedom fighters.
Some of the missing details of Obama's life are doubtlessly trivial. Obama probably has benign explanations for not providing more information about them. Even Trump admits that the evidence strongly suggests Obama was born in Hawaii and is an American citizen. But that Obama has not yet released this information, and that the media refuses to criticize him for not doing so, is a testament not to the insanity of the "birthers," but to Obama's penchant for secrecy, and the dangerous amount of latitude the media has been willing to cede him.
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Donald Trump slams Bill Cosby as not 'honest'
Politico ^ | April 11, 2011 | MAGGIE HABERMAN
"While I have never been a fan of Cosby’s, I had always assumed he liked or respected me because every time I met him — the last time at the David Letterman show where I preceded him as a guest — he was always so nice, saying 'let’s get together' —— asking me out to dinner, and being polite to the point of offering to buy me a suit because he has a 'great tailor,'" Trump said.
“In any event, as I watched the show, the subject of Donald Trump came up. I was surprised to hear him blabber, somewhat incoherently 'you run or shut up,' " Trump added, saying Cosby must know that "I cannot run until this season of 'Celebrity Apprentice' ends."
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What does that have to do with honesty?..dude are you screening these articles before you perform the great cut and paste
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i'd vote for romney in a minute.
sure, he cheated in the debate and he's not a person that people wanna have a beer with. Phony as the day is long, and a former lib.
Those are his flaws. His strengths? He will fulfill the wishes of most americans, and cut the spending. Period. He'd get my donation and my vote. I could give a crap what religion he is.
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Donald Trump: I'm Obama's Worst Nightmare
RealClearPolitics ^ | April 10, 2011 | RealClearPolitics
Donald Trump says he is not the person President Obama wants to run against.
"I don’t hear them talking about Mr. Pawlenty or anybody else. They’re talking only about Trump. And I can tell you, I’m their worst nightmare. I am not the person that they want to run against and they know it and I know it," Trump told FOX News on Monday morning.
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Donald Trump: I'm Obama's Worst Nightmare
It's almost like a bad NBC sitcom now. "I'm your worst nightmare!"
He knows the jumped the shark on this birther CT thing this week. The coverage seems to have fallen in half every day since Today Show.
Really, it's embarassing now.
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It's almost like a bad NBC sitcom now. "I'm your worst nightmare!"
He knows the jumped the shark on this birther CT thing this week. The coverage seems to have fallen in half every day since Today Show.
Really, it's embarassing now.
Yes - for two years now you have sold your soul.
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Yes - for two years now you have sold your soul.
so you don't see a little bit of a cheese factor with trump saying this?
Donald Trump: I'm Obama's Worst Nightmare
oh brother, that's cheesy.
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so you don't see a little bit of a cheese factor with trump saying this?
Donald Trump: I'm Obama's Worst Nightmare
oh brother, that's cheesy.
He is right - the other GOP dweebs like romney, huck, t-paw are losers who will lose 48.5 to 51.5 to the communist anti american traitor.
no thanks. At least Trump will ry to win, those dweebs will law down.
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Calling Donald Trump's Bluff
America has a Donald Trump problem.
Apparently stunt candidates like Trump have every incentive to run for president just for the publicity alone. The more controversial his statements, the more publicity he gets and, ironically, the more serious his presidential campaign becomes.
It's time to break the cycle. Enough with the birther questions. Trump's second-place polling in New Hampshire means its time to take him seriously.
It's time for the media to ask what he would actually do as president other than have been born in the United States. Then Americans can judge for themselves just how serious his candidacy really is.
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Trump: Koran Teaches A "Very Negative Vibe"
"Well, I'll tell you what. The Koran is very interesting. A lot of people say it teaches love and there is a very big group of people who really understand the Koran far better than I do. I'm certainly not an expert, to put it mildly. But there's something there that teaches some very negative vibe," Potential 2012 GOP candidate Donald Trump told CBN's David Brody.
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CNN Poll: Trump tied for first in GOP horserace
By: CNN Political Unit
Washington (CNN) - Donald Trump is now tied with Mike Huckabee for first place when Republicans are asked who they support for the GOP presidential nomination in 2012, according to a new national poll.
But while a CNN/Opinion Research Corporation survey released Tuesday indicates that the real estate mogul and reality TV star has nearly doubled his support since mid-March, it doesn't mean he has smooth sailing ahead.
"More than four in ten Republicans say they would not like to see Trump toss his hat in the ring," says CNN Polling Director Keating Holland.
Nineteen percent of Republicans and Republican-leaning independents questioned in the poll say that as of now, they'd be most likely to support Trump for next year's GOP presidential nomination. Trump says he'll decide by June whether he runs for the White House. An equal amount say they'd back Huckabee. The former Arkansas governor and 2008 Republican presidential candidate says he'll decide by later this year if he'll make another bid for the White House.
Twelve percent say they'd support former Gov. Sarah Palin of Alaska, who was the party's 2008 vice presidential nominee, with 11 percent backing former Massachusetts Gov. and 2008 White House hopeful Mitt Romney and the same amount supporting former House Speaker Newt Gingrich. Seven percent say they are backing Rep. Ron Paul of Texas, another 2008 presidential candidate, with five percent supporting Rep. Michele Bachmann of Minnesota, who enjoys strong backing from many in the Tea Party movement. Everyone else registers in the low single digits.
Trump jumped from 10 percent in a CNN/Opinion Research Corporation poll conducted last month, with Romney dropping from 18 percent to 11 percent.
"Are Republicans switching from Romney to Trump? Some are, but it's a lot more complicated than that, as you would expect with 11 potential hats in the ring," adds Holland. "Only one in five Trump supporters say that Romney would be their second choice. It looks like Trump pulls as much support from Gingrich and Palin as from Romney, and Romney's support would go down even if Trump were not in the list of potential candidates."
The poll was conducted in the two days before Romney's Monday announcement that he was taking the first formal step towards another bid, by setting up a presidential exploratory committee.
According to the survey, more than seven in ten Republicans say that regardless of whom they would support, they'd like to see Huckabee run for the party's presidential nomination, with two-thirds saying the same thing about Romney.
But that figure drops to 56 percent for Trump, with 43 percent saying they don't want to see him run. By a narrower 53 to 47 percent margin, they would like to see Palin make a bid for the White House, and by a 51 to 45 percent margin, they would like to see Gingrich run.
So what could be behind Trump's rise in the poll?
One contributing factor could be his numerous appearances in the national media. Trump's questioning of whether President Barack Obama was born in the U.S. has put Trump smack in the media spotlight the past two months.
"If Trump is rising in the polls because of the amount of air time he has gotten, it would be difficult to tell whether his gains are due to what he is saying or simply due to his increased visibility. In a field of more than a dozen potential candidates, all air time is good air time," says Holland. "Most presidential seasons get to a point when the voters are looking for a fresh face. That's what gave us Fred Thompson in 2008 and Wesley Clark in 2004, to name just two examples. If the Republican rank and file has already hit that phase, Trump would be the obvious beneficiary."
But being in the top spot in the polls the year before the election doesn't always end with that candidate winning their party's nomination. Both Sen. Hillary Clinton and former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani led in the national horserace polls in 2007, with neither ending up taking their party nominations.
The CNN/Opinion Research Corporation poll was conducted by telephone, with 824 people questioned. The survey's overall sampling error is plus or minus 3.5 percentage points.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/04/12/cnn-poll-trump-tied-for-first-in-gop-horserace/
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Trump is not gonna run.
You think he'll leave his TV gig to become the POTUS?
HIGHLY unlikely.
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trump is probably surrounded by a bunch of yes men that don't have the balls to tell him is being a stupid fuck over this Birther thing.
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Oh yeah - real stupid - he only is tied for first after three weeks. Real dumb on his part!
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Oh yeah - real stupid - he only is tied for first after three weeks. Real dumb on his part!
It only looks smart to impulsive easily swayed and desperate Obama haters.
As if front runners before the real race begins mean anything. Ask Hilary about that.
The only reason he surged up there was because he made news headlines.
But in you infinite objectivity......you knew that. :D
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Funny, look at the date I started this thread to where trump is since. Same with my obama 5 gas thread. I'm way ahead of the curve on this stuff.
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Funny, look at the date I started this thread to where trump is since. Same with my obama 5 gas thread. I'm way ahead of the curve on this stuff.
I think you are pretty dead on with many things 33333. I have just noticed lately IMO, you are way off with a few things.
Trump ain't going to make it and likely won't even run.
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The CT er in me says he might be doing this for hillary.
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It only looks smart to impulsive easily swayed and desperate Obama haters.
Bingo. Many 'repubs' will choose a glitzy flashy extremist - despite his history of lifetime liberal leanings - because they get caught up on the excitement. It's their own version of obama mania. 333386 has gone thru Mitt fever, Palin fever, and now Trump fever.
Look at the 2008 Repub frontrunners in polls. Fred Thompson was an awkward windbag who didn't know a ton - but he was #1 for a bit. Rudy sank everywhere he spoke - but everyone knew he would run.
Mitt and others are competing with CRAZY right now. Crazy sells well in early polls.
Hopefully repubs come around to someone with a bit of professionalism.
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Charles Manson has a better record than Bama.
in your mind, ANYONE who is white has a better record than Obama :D
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in your mind, ANYONE who is white has a better record than Obama :D
;)
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well aside from obama all the other pressidents were apparently white
so Obama being a fuckup does not really stack up well against yes the white guys
yep
true story
"Obtuse" is a great moniker for you. ???
Party at table six! Don't drop the drinks! ::)
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Trump off to a promising start (Bill Bennett)
CNN ^ | 4/13/2011 | William Bennett
For the past three months, Donald Trump has been making a lot of news about his possible run for the presidency. It started in February when he spoke at the annual gathering of CPAC.
Proving he is willing to call 'em as he sees 'em, and not following the traditional advice for prospective candidates that it's not a good idea to anger your audience, he jumped right in to challenge the Ron Paul supporters in the crowd, saying of Paul, "He has zero chance of getting elected."
Trump was booed and jeered, but he did not care. He did not couch or backtrack. Instead he looked right into the crowd and then said something that converted the heckles to applause, "If I run, and if I win, this country will be respected again."
What most observers picked up from this small moment was: A) Trump would not be a poll-tested, talking point candidate. B) He would be willing to challenge audiences in front of him, caring less about their applause and more about speaking his own mind. C) There is an authenticity to him. There was something about his speaking up for a newly respected America that rang honest and sincere -- and most importantly, was needed.
Americans have always had a fascination with personalities and families of tremendous wealth and unique celebrity. Think for a moment as to why the upcoming royal wedding is set to be the largest television event in history. There is a capturing of the imagination. There is a bit of envy. And there's even a bit of self-reflective possibility that one could achieve equal fame and riches.
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If he seeks presidency, even rich Donald Trump will seek donors
By Jackie Kucinich, USA TODAY
Updated 11h 21m ago |
Trump may be rich, but if he decides to run for president, he plans to ask voters to “invest” in his candidacy.
By Timothy A. Clary, AFP/Getty Images
Donald Trump talks to the press after receiving the American Automobile Association's (AAA) Five-Diamond Award on March 31, 2011.
Trump has said repeatedly that he is willing to spend $600 million of his personal fortune to run for president, but to meet the $1 billion price tag for a 2012 campaign, even he will ask for campaign donations.
“If I run, I’ll absolutely (raise funds). I think it’s important for voters to invest in the direction of the country,” Trump said in an interview Tuesday with USA TODAY.
His success in a series of polls from a variety of large news organizations has left political observers explaining why the business mogul and reality star suddenly seems like a viable candidate.
In response to CNN/ Opinion Research Poll released Tuesday that had Trump and former Arkansas governor Mike Huckabee tied for first place, Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour said voters simply knew Trump’s name.
“I wouldn’t read too much into that, in all candor,” Barbour told New Hampshire’s WKXL Radio on Tuesday. “For some voters, it may have just been that pure and simple: I’ve heard of Donald Trump, nobody else I’ve heard of I want to be for, so I’ll just park my vote for this little poll with Donald Trump.”
Trump expressed doubt that voters were simply picking whomever they knew.
“I think they know the other contenders,” Trump said, adding that former governors Mitt Romney of Massachusetts and Tim Pawlenty of Minnesota were fairly recognizable at this point. “I have the highest in terms of name recognition.”
Instead, he attributed his popularity in the polls to his message: The United States is in bad shape and someone needs to turn that around. “Something resonates with people; people know I’m a serious person,” Trump said.
Read all On Politics posts He derided the recent trade agreements with South Korea and Colombia as a “disaster” and “terrible,” respectively, and said, if he were president, he would impose tougher rules and regulations on other countries in order to halt jobs from drifting overseas. He also slammed the Obama administration for allowing OPEC to “rip us off” and causing gas prices to skyrocket.
“The U.S. has never been in such bad shape as it is now,” Trump said.
Trump said that he will announce his intentions in June, after his reality show Celebrity Apprentice wraps for the season, and that, if he runs, he intends to compete in debates.
Trump said he wasn’t concerned about the increased scrutiny that comes with a bid for president, and he pledged to file disclosure forms dealing with his business empire. “They know me; they know what they are getting,”he said.
Trump has made Obama’s birthplace an issue in numerous TV interviews since his appearance at the Conservative Political Action Conference in February. On NBC’s Today show last week, Trump said “there is a big possibility” that Obama may have violated the Constitution. The president was born in Hawaii, and his birth certificate, which is on file in Honolulu, was verified as authentic in the 2008 campaign by the state’s health director and director of vital statistics.
Asked about his investigation into Obama’s birth certificate, Trump said his investigation continues. “I’m amazed Obama has gotten such a free pass on this issue,” he said.
Contributing: Catalina Camia
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More Horse-Sense from Trump
Reaganite Republican ^ | April 13, 2011 | Reaganite Republican
Posted on Wednesday, April 13, 2011 9:48:21 AM by Reaganite Republican
With Donald Trump topping the latest
CNN/OpEdRe Poll, a few choice quotes...
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"I hate what's happening to the country"
"The US border with Mexico is a joke... it should be militarized so that no illegal immigrants can come in. Moreover, doing so would stop the burgeoning US-Mexico trade in illegal drugs"
"(Pakistan) knows where Bin Laden is... cut off all aid until they hand him over"
"I am opposed to gay marriage... causes me trouble in New York, but I just don't feel right about it".
"Well, there is a Muslim problem... all you have to do is turn on your TV... Unfortunately, at this point in time, there is a Muslim problem in the world... you know it and I know it."
"I didn't notice Swedish people knocking down the World Trade Center."
"That (GZM) was so insensitive- keep in mind, that's my territory -Manhattan real estate- and when they announced the Mosque in that location- I couldn't believe it."
"There's something out there... that brings a level of hostility that I've never seen in any religion. You can say what you want about the Koran.... there's something there, there is tremendous hatred... and tremendous hatred of us. I look at Iraq... we spent all this money and all those lives- they hate us! These people hate us, they can't get rid of us fast enough."
"(Obama) may have a birth certificate... but maybe there's something on there, maybe he's a Muslim..."
"I would tell China that you're either going to shape up, or I'm going to tax you at 25% (tariffs) for all the products you send into this country.... I'm all for free trade, but it's gotta be fair trade"
"What's protectionism? They're making $300B! I want some protection, if that's the case... The fact is that China has taken advantage of our leaders for long time, but they're having a field day with Obama... a total field day."
"This year they're going to make $300B on us alone- but guess what: that's either going to equalize, or
WE DON'T NEED CHINA."
"Whether or not we should have been in Iraq, that's one question- but we're there. Iran will take over Iraq the day we leave... Iran is already talking to those people..."
"We will make a fortune... There are 15 trillion dollars worth of oil in Iraq... we are not going to hand that oil to Iran."
"As soon as we leave Iraq, Iran is going to go and take over Iraq and take over those huge oil fields the oil -2nd largest to Saudi Arabia. That would never happen -believe me- if it were up to me."
"Nobody knows who the (Benghazi) rebels are... I hear they're tied to Iran, I hear they're tied to Al Qaida. I'd have to find out who the rebels are first, but I'll tell you what: I'm only interested in Libya if we take the oil. If we don't take the oil, I have no interest in Libya."
"Unlike our leaders, the Chinese leaders are intelligent... of course they're interested in the (Libyan) oil. We're not interested in the oil because we don't have the right leadership."
"We're not respected, we're going down. China is taking things over -they're taking our jobs, they're taking our money. Then after they take our money, they're loaning it back to us and we pay interest. They're manipulating their currency, they make it very hard for our companies to compete"
"This country has never been so low- we've never been at a low point like we are now."
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Another item of note: Trump is showing confidence in the brave democrats of Georgia, investing in a new luxury development sure to provide Tbilisi a much-need economic and morale boost after the way the Russians have been slapping them around the last couple years.
At least one American is lending a hand while this unprincipled squirrel Obama licks Vladimir Putin's rear end and sells out yet another freedom-loving friend of the United States...
Analysis of a possible Trump 2012 run -here-
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Let's see how many votes he just lost here:
The gay vote
The Mexican vote
Muslim vote
The black vote
If he runs he'll just be sideshow. And people will whine about why he isn't getting enough votes.
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Let's see how many votes he just lost here:
The gay vote
The Mexican vote
Muslim vote
The black vote
If he runs he'll just be sideshow. And people will whine about why he isn't getting enough votes.
All he needs are about 25% - 40% the white indes who voted for bama last time and bama is done.
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Why 'The Donald' Trumps Obama's Cult of Celebrity
FoxNews.com ^ | 4/13/2011 | Steven Crowder
One thing remains unchanged; I know who Donald Trump is. Whether it’s his number one rated show on NBC (as he reiterates in every interview he’s ever had) or his list of bestselling books, Trump has created the kind of single-name recognition that few manage to cultivate.
More importantly, it’s becoming more seemingly clear that Donald Trump could just be Obama’s Buster Douglas.
Who's that, you ask? Well, once a legendary figure of the boxing ring, Mike Tyson ruled the fighting arena. Most importantly, "Iron Mike" struck so much fear into the hearts of his opponents that one could easily see in the staredown that they’d had lost the match before the bell had even been rung. That all changed with Douglas. Buster Douglas went into the ring with nothing to lose, and a willingness to engage that Tyson had never seen before. Buster went in and bullied the bully. The bully was baffled.
That’s Donald Trump today. Whether it’s his raising of the once taboo birth certificate issue (and turning it into a mainstream discussion while doing it), or riding roughshod over Meredith Vieria while exposing her liberal bias in the process, Donald Trump has shown a willingness to take center-ring like no other candidate in recent memory. He has no fear of the president and win, lose or draw, he’s going to get right in his punim.
Most importantly, Mr. Trump genuinely has nothing to lose. He doesn’t need the money, he doesn’t need the power and he certainly doesn’t need the fame. It seems that Donald Trump genuinely thinks the country is “going to hell” and simply doesn’t want to wait on the sidelines as it happens.
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33, how many states would trump carry against obama?
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33, how many states would trump carry against obama?
ALL OF THEM!!!!!! DUH
Obama is the worst person in the history of the world.. well second only to satan with his intentional collapse of the universe
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All he needs are about 25% - 40% the white indes who voted for bama last time and bama is done.
How so If he loses all those other votes?
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How so If he loses all those other votes?
Those voters all went for bama last time and bama still only won by 6%.
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Those voters all went for bama last time and bama still only won by 6%.
Do you consider 6% to be a small margin?
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Do you consider 6% to be a small margin?
OMG THIS GUY IS PURE COMEDY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Do you consider 6% to be a small margin?
considering the factors atplay last time - yes.
Mal and yourself did not see the mid term disaster coming because you areso in the tank for the communist traitor obama and will not see the landslide against him in 2012. So far, I thik 75% chance he is done, thankfully.
He has been a horrific failure on so many levels its not funny. I mean if you are a racist black, a enviro-nazi, a fag, a guilt ridden jewish lib in NY, a doped up hippie, an ex-con, a single issue abortion voter, - they love obama for stupid reasons.
but by 2012 - with gas at $5, UE in the toilet, nation laughed at, etc, Trump will easil beat bama likeReagan did mondale in 1984.
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considering the factors atplay last time - yes.
Also, the official numbers are a little off:
In the general population vote Obama had 52.9 percent of the vote to McCain 45.7 percent
They have 7.2% difference there. (source foxnews)
Do you consider 7.2% margin of victory to be a small one?
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Also, the official numbers are a little off:
In the general population vote Obama had 52.9 percent of the vote to McCain 45.7 percent
They have 7.2% difference there. (source foxnews)
Do you consider 7.2% margin of victory to be a small one?
Considering the circumstances - yes. it was the perfect storm for a dem to win. But look at 2010 - your messiah and heros on the far left got trounced. Shit - even kloppenberg got rocked in WI.
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Considering the circumstances - yes. it was the perfect storm for a dem to win. But look at 2010 - your messiah and heros on the far left got trounced. Shit - even kloppenberg got rocked in WI.
Good luck getting that retard 240 to admit anything. He's the ultimate troll.
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Good luck getting that retard 240 to admit anything. He's the ultimate troll.
Trump was one of the first ones against the GZ mosque, offered to rebuilder the towers as was, is saying the right things on the muslim bs, and is saying the right things.
Sadly - the thers are playing it way too safe.
240 wants a GOP schlub to run the good race and lose 49-51. We all know it.
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no, i want the repub to win 55 to 44%.
Do I think trump will play nationally? No, I'm afraid not.
33, you're enamored with him, we've seen it over and over. But he's obnoxious, an egomaniac, it's all "i'm rich, i'm smart, i'm gonna tell opec what to do, i'm gonna steal iraqi oil"...
He's like a character from The Onion. You'd never see it believable that a presidential candidate says "We should steal oil from muslim nations". I mean, really? To say that aloud?
Wow. Just wow.
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Trump was one of the first ones against the GZ mosque, offered to rebuilder the towers as was, is saying the right things on the muslim bs, and is saying the right things.
Sadly - the thers are playing it way too safe.
240 wants a GOP schlub to run the good race and lose 49-51. We all know it.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't 240 a libertarian? ::)
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't 240 a libertarian? ::)
Look, I like 240, and look at him like a younger misguided brother hooked on dope who I always try to get clean. that being said - its obvious he is still under the influence of the date rape drug administered to him by the messiah.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't 240 a libertarian? ::)
Aren't you supposed to be intelligent? ::)
LOL @ taking Donald "The NYC Hustla" Trump seriously on any level. His numbers would drop as fast as Adolf Gulianus's did in 2008. However, The Donald isn't even going to actually run.
Your hero PEA BRAIN will latch on to yet another repube hopeful after this comedy act is over, and you will follow him around in support on this board in your usual lapdog fashion. Poor Nicky Hersch. :(
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Hahaha, meltdown!
I never said I supported Trump. He and Palin are the best candidates to get your God-King reelected. But you go ahead and keep following me around. It warms my heart knowing a 40-year-old degenerate has nothing better to do than rage all over a bodybuilding board with 100 active posters. 8)
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Ha ha ha - i favor whoever kicks in the nuts.
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Ha ha ha - i favor whoever kicks in the nuts.
I'd rather Romney over Trump. He'd run circles around Obama on any talk about the economy.
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I'd rather Romney over Trump. He'd run circles around Obama on any talk about the economy.
I really am not the guy to discuss this considering my previous support for Madoff/Vandersloot 2012 if that was the GOP ticket. ;D
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I really am not the guy to discuss this considering my previous support for Madoff/Vandersloot 2012 if that was the GOP ticket. ;D
True.
But let's be honest. Could those two really do any worse? :D :D :D :D
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True.
But let's be honest. Could those two really do any worse? :D :D :D :D
I think I could make a credible argument that they would be better with a promiseof amnesty and freedom in 20 years.
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I think I could make a credible argument that they would be better with a promiseof amnesty and freedom in 20 years.
Do you think Obama's verbal ass-kicking of the Republicans today was merely impressive or totally domination?
I'll kick back and wait for your answer.
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Do you think Obama's verbal ass-kicking of the Republicans today was merely impressive or totally domination?
I'll kick back and wait for your answer.
What ass kicking was that? please inform me - what I heard was a belly laugh a second lie filled teleprompter fed drivel tailor made fr the idiot dupes in the public who still believe just because the messiah says somethng that it equals the truth.
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What ass kicking was that? please inform me - what I heard was a belly laugh a second lie filled teleprompter fed drivel tailor made fr the idiot dupes in the public who still believe just because the messiah says somethng that it equals the truth.
I'll put you down for total domination then.
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Trump/West 2012? Allen West not closed to idea of being Donald Trump’s VP
The Daily Caller ^ | 4/14/2011 | Chris Moody
Florida Congressman and Tea Party favorite Allen West isn’t opposed to the idea of joining possible presidential contender Donald Trump, West told The Daily Caller Thursday.
When pressed repeatedly if he would rule out the possibility of running with Trump, the Republican House freshman did not say that the idea was off the table.
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Trump/West = 45 state landslide aganst obama.
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I'd rather Romney over Trump. He'd run circles around Obama on any talk about the economy.
uh huh....RomneyCare same as Obamacare :)
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Trump/West = 45 state landslide aganst obama.
i want some of whatever youre smoking.
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Hahaha, meltdown!
I never said I supported Trump. He and Palin are the best candidates to get your God-King reelected. But you go ahead and keep following me around. It warms my heart knowing a 40-year-old degenerate has nothing better to do than rage all over a bodybuilding board with 100 active posters. 8)
I just read this...I keep following you around? lol Get over yourself, kid. ::)
You are a sad, ugly, horse-faced 22 year old LOSER who spews your bitterness and self loathing daily ALL OVER THIS BODYBUILDING BOARD WITH ONE HUNDRED ACTIVE MEMBERS, as if that has "anything to do with anything." ;)
Keep sucking on that PEA BRAIN cock, baby! It's doing you a world of good. :-\
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uh huh....RomneyCare same as Obamacare :)
Really I thought "Romneycare" was confined to one state, but I can see how you get the federal government confused with state government ::)
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Really I thought "Romneycare" was confined to one state, but I can see how you get the federal government confused with state government ::)
D'oh! :D
(http://www.politifake.org/image/political/small/1103/romneycare-republican-gop-healtcare-political-poster-1300206313.jpg)
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D'oh! :D
(http://www.politifake.org/image/political/small/1103/romneycare-republican-gop-healtcare-political-poster-1300206313.jpg)
And whats your point?
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That Donald Trump Is Pretty Shrewd
American Thinker ^ | April 15, 2011 | Kyle-Anne Shiver
Well, I don't even pretend to know everything there is to know about Donald Trump, but from what I've seen over the past several weeks, I can easily declare that that man is one pretty shrewd guy. "The Donald," as I've heard him referred to by businessmen I know, hasn't amassed a fortune as a builder/developer/real-estate tycoon without knowing precisely how to acquire the land he seeks, how to demolish any existing buildings and how he plans to develop the property into another golden chunk of Trumpland.
Now that we can pretty well assume Mr. Trump is running for president, it's obvious that he has done a prerequisite full survey of Obamaland. He has, as all successful builders are wont to do, gotten the plans of the existing structure and knows precisely which cornerstone and support beams are holding President Obama's house upright. And as any truly great builder would, Trump has carefully, critically, logically listed every risk/benefit ratio of every strategy we now see him publicly employing.
Every time Donald Trump attacks a piece of the Obama narrative to a dumbfounded interviewer, he knows exactly what he is doing. He has considered the risk beforehand and calculated its rewards. He knows the media is most vulnerable because early on in 2008, the collective media declared these Obama truth-searches out of bounds for respectable people, who were obliged (in the media elitists' minds) to give Obama's blackness all benefit of doubt in every instance. For nearly three full years now, the media has held its locked grip on every tidbit of missing or discordant information regarding the Obama narrative and are now shocked -- shocked, I tell you -- that anyone would dare to broach these media-deemed taboo subjects.
John McCain accepted these media-imposed, stacked-deck rules and the rest is history.
But Donald Trump is no John McCain. Donald Trump is a great American entrepreneur. And he is the quintessential builder/developer.
I've a great deal of respect for builders. I grew up in a family of them. And even as a child, I delighted in just listening to these men deliberate over whether to take on a new development project. The problem-set of each individual undertaking was immense and I loved observing how the builders never, ever allowed problems to take them by surprise if they could possibly help it beforehand. To this end, they each played devil's advocate on every detail -- from how hard and expensive it might be to acquire the land, to how formidable the permit obstacles might be, to how much it would cost to demolish existing structures.
In my mind, as I grew older, I began to believe that these brothers were successful builders not due to any great vision or design skills they possessed, but because of their ruthless willingness to preemptively tear their own plans apart if they could not determine feasible solutions to every conceivable problem in advance -- before the first penny was ever laid down upon the banker's table.
I think Americans can be fairly certain at this point in Donald Trump's presidential bid that he knows precisely which beams in the Obama-built house are providing the only support this president has. In poll after poll after poll, actual Obama policies have the approval of only about one fourth to a third of the American people.
But on the likability factors, Obama continues to hold a steady plurality of support. (I personally think these figures are unreliable owing to a Bradley-effect cultural bias, however.) Trump -- being the consummate builder/developer -- understands better than any other Republican out there that you don't bring down a house if the community isn't ready to let it go -- no matter how dilapidated the house may be or how terrific your own plans may look on paper.
For example, let's say a developer wants to build a lovely seniors' community on some unused-for-eons farmland, but that on this property, close to the main road, sits a dilapidated house that the folks have been fondly using as a directional landmark for longer than anyone alive can remember. The community has an emotional attachment to that farmhouse. Over the generations, a great deal of lore has been created regarding the family who built it. They may have actually been a gang of horse thieves. Or the family scion might have been a gambler, a boozer, and a wife-beater, but by the present day, he has acquired the status of imagination-built secular sainthood. And any attempts by an outsider to tear down what remains of his house is seen by the locals as close to blasphemy.
What's a builder to do in such a circumstance? You can bet your last quarter that Donald Trump has faced very similar scenarios in many a place where a building now bears his name.
Unseating the first black president mid-way through his legally allowed tenure in the White House presents precisely this obstacle to any and every Republican candidate. It's obvious that although the economy is heading for a double-dip recession, terrifying inflation on the necessities of life, and a debt crisis of Greece-like proportion, the first black president still holds a place in American hearts. Despite the fact that Obama has committed America's armed forces to a third Mideast war, his symbolic presidential tenure still holds sway in the national psyche.
Just as that dilapidated farmhouse has become infested with rats, rattlesnakes, and termites, the Obama administration is crumbling and now threatens the health and safety of us all. But tearing that house down to pave way for a genuine winning of the future is not going to be easy.
The other Republican candidates think they can just bring out an army of suits bearing building-code inspectors' licenses and the public will logically welcome the necessary demolition of Obama's dilapidated house.
But Donald Trump, the developer, understands that facts alone can take one only so far. Trump has calculated that the whole Obama house is resting upon the public's acceptance of that emotional and utterly contrived Obama narrative. And Trump is determined to disabuse America of its sentimental attachment to an Obama presidency.
Because, truly, unless that spell can be broken, Obama's house -- crumbling and varmint infested though it may be -- will stand.
Yes, that Donald Trump is one smart guy.
And I, personally, wish him Godspeed. Whether Trump is ever elected president or not, he will have done America a great favor if he simply cuts Obama back down to the size of mortal man and helps all of us see the folly of our 2008 blinders.
Putting blinders on a horse in public can save lives.
Humans, who willingly put blinders on themselves, are not worth even a single horse's behind.
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Really I thought "Romneycare" was confined to one state, but I can see how you get the federal government confused with state government ::)
but its the same principle..
Even though its different, the position is the same, and this is a very liberal position to take from a potential GOP candidate
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but its the same principle..
Even though its different, the position is the same, and this is a very liberal position to take from a potential GOP candidate
Thank you...but don't waste your time arguing..Kazan will never get it
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Really I thought "Romneycare" was confined to one state, but I can see how you get the federal government confused with state government ::)
wow..same concept you idiot....and Romney has stated that he wanted to nationalize his plan...THE OWNERSHIP CONTINUES!!!!!!!
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wow..same concept you idiot....and Romney has stated that he wanted to nationalize his plan...THE OWNERSHIP CONTINUES!!!!!!!
Yeah everybody accept you is an idiot ::) You see the state can institute a healthcare system as such, the constitution provides for as much with the 10th amendment. Who cares if he wanted to nationalize his plan, how exactly is the governor of Mass going to do that? For a black guy I think you would be a little more careful about using the word "OWNERSHIP"
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but its the same principle..
Even though its different, the position is the same, and this is a very liberal position to take from a potential GOP candidate
The principle is one is constitutional and one isn't, Mass can do it legally and constitutionally, the federal government doesn't have the authority. That is the whole purpose of the 10th Amendment, states rights.
Beside Romney will never be POTUS, I won't vote for him, don't trust morons
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Morons or Mormons? Lol
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Morons or Mormons? Lol
Whoops, well I guess the two are somewhat interchangable
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Whoops, well I guess the two are somewhat interchangable
which group do you belong to then? :o
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which group do you belong to then? :o
Thats all you got?
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Trump's Strength in Early Presidential Polls Defies Conventional Wisdom
By Stephen Clark
Published April 16, 2011
FoxNews.com
A top adviser for President Obama dismisses him as a "sideshow." Former Bush adviser Karl Rove calls him a "joke candidate."
But that hasn't stopped Donald Trump, who has captured national attention with his outspoken skepticism of Obama's citizenship, from surging in early presidential polls. He leads all potential GOP presidential candidates by nine points in a Public Policy Polling survey released Friday. He trailed only Mitt Romney in a NBC/Wall Street Journal poll released last week.
The real estate mogul and star of NBC's "The Apprentice" says he's encouraged by the polls, but won't make an announcement about his plans for a presidential bid until June. Yet he'll be in Florida this weekend to speak at a Tea Party Tax Day rally in his first political trip since he began making waves with talks of a possible presidential bid.
Despite Trump's early strong showing, many still aren't convinced of his electability and analysts say he will have to go beyond the so-called "birther" cause and define himself for Republican primary voters on social, fiscal and foreign policy issues.
Cary Covington, a political science professor at the University of Iowa, attributes Trump's high poll numbers more to a weak Republican field than to Trump's strengths as a potential candidate.
"The Republican Party right now hasn't found that resonant individual who speaks to the various bases the way a Bush or Reagan did and until they do…why not trust Trump?" he said.
While Trump's business success will appeal to fiscal conservatives, social conservatives will struggle to overlook his three marriages, he said.
"He's going to have a hard time making it in the social conservative ranks," he said. "Not sure serial monogamy is going to go over well with the social right."
Ultimately, he said, a Trump campaign likely won't succeed in the early nominating states of Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina.
"My intuition says the closer Republicans look at him, the less attractive he becomes," he said.
But GOP strategist Roger Stone, who worked as a lobbyist for Trump for 20 years and has launched a website in support of a Trump candidacy, says his former boss is the only one with the message and star power to defeat Obama.
"The question is why did his poll numbers change so rapidly," he said, noting that two months ago, he was bringing up the rear with single-digits."He's always been wealthy and outspoken. It's what he's been talking about. America getting ripped off by OPEC. America getting ripped off by China. America wasting billions of dollars. And he has the brand."
Stone says he sees a clear path to the nomination for Trump.
"You don't need 51 percent to win this race. You just need a plurality," he said. "There are a plurality of voters in Iowa and New Hampshire who like his message."
He also said Trump's celebrity will enable him to challenge Obama, who he called an "extraordinary, spellbinding speaker."
"If you're Tim Pawlenty, you've got to get people to know who you are and you do it on $10 million," he said. "It's so hard…Trump comes to the table well-known and he has a forum."
Trump has been on a media blitz in recent weeks, drawing attention by echoing the doubts of a fringe movement that doesn't believe Obama was born in the United States, despite the existence of official documents.
White House senior adviser David Plouffe said this week that he hopes Trump keeps surging in the polls because "there's zero chance that Donald Trump would ever be hired by the American people to do this job."
"There may be a small part of the country that believes these things, but mainstream Americans think it's a sideshow," he told ABC's "This Week."
Rove, a Fox News contributor, said Friday that Trump was an "interesting candidate who had a business background and could have contributed to the dialogue."
"But his full embrace of the birther issue means that he's off there in the nutty right and is now an inconsequential candidate," he told Fox News' Greta Van Susteren. "I'm shocked. The guy's smarter than this. And the idea that President Obama was not born in Hawaii, making that the centerpiece of his campaign, means that he's just a joke candidate."
Rove added that if Trump decides to run, "The American people aren't going to be hiring him, and certainly, the Republicans are not going to be hiring him in the Republican primary."
Trump told the Wall Street Journal this week that he will "probably" run as an independent candidate if he doesn't win the GOP nod.
Trump said he thinks he can win as an independent.
"I'm not doing it for any other reason," he told the newspaper. "I like winning."
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/04/16/trumps-strength-early-presidential-polls-defies-conventional-wisdom/
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if he runs as an independent, he hands the election to obama. it'll be 1992 all over again. No way clinton should have beaten Bush.
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I think if he runs and picks bachmann or west or rubio - he will steamroll bama into oblivion.
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pat buchannan said today - the moment a person declare they'll run for president, their poll numbers are the highest. it's all downhill from there.
that makes sense with the 2007 numbers... we saw it over and over. That nice new excitement thing. Then, we learn more about the candidate and realize we disagree with some positions. The less you know about a candidate, the more attractive he/she is.
There are a lot of tea party voters that will realize Trump is cool with abortion, gun control, etc - and will return to a pence of bachmann.
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Pence isn't running but I still have bachmann at the near top of the list.
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Pence isn't running but I still have bachmann at the near top of the list.
i dunno... he was the one screaming "shut it down" about the govt just last week lol...
i suspect he is cuddling up to the most extreme tea party base for a reason.
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Pence isn't running but I still have bachmann at the near top of the list.
Bachmann will get eaten alive in the primaries...she is very short-tempered and makes a lot of major gaffes.....then she will blame the leftists....that only goes so far
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Bachmann will get eaten alive in the primaries...she is very short-tempered and makes a lot of major gaffes.....then she will blame the leftists....that only goes so far
Well... in the past, sure. But lately? She's calm as hell dude. She's realized and pauses before answering anything. Much more effective this way. Doesn't seem nutty - seems wise when she does this.
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Well... in the past, sure. But lately? She's calm as hell dude. She's realized and pauses before answering anything. Much more effective this way. Doesn't seem nutty - seems wise when she does this.
yes but she's not under pressure lately...wait til that happens ::)
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The Trump Rebellion
Townhall.com ^ | April 16, 2011 | Doug Giles
For this weekend I was originally going to write on five reasons why Obama will be reelected in 2012. Why the gloomy prediction? Well, for me at least, it’s primarily because this current crop of GOP hopefuls gets me about as excited as watching Joy Behar doing an interpretive dance in Borat’s thong to The Doors’ classic hit “Riders on the Storm” (the extended version) while smoking a cigar with spinach in her teeth.
Now, that doesn’t mean that I don’t like certain—or many—aspects of the various conservative contenders who are starting to jockey for position; it simply means that I think Obama the Swiffer would dust them with his billion dollar Chi-town based voter fraud fueled spin machine. That’s all.
So, what caused me to change the topic for this week’s screed? Well, I saw The Donald open up a can of verbal whup ass on Obama on Hannity last Thursday and Friday night. It was extremely convincing in that he had refreshingly solid, no-BS answers for the multifaceted debacles “the worst president ever” has entrenched us in and explained how he sees himself as the crap-cutting dealmaker to pull us out.
And it seems that I’m not alone in finding DT’s comments compelling. According to every poll out there America really digs what Donald is doing, and he’s either tied or ahead of the GOP wannabe pack. Trump is even polling better than Barack in the new Biden/Michelle Obama poll. It’s a madhouse, folks. A madhouse.
Another thing that makes me hopeful that Donald can trump Obama in 2012 is that David Plouffe, the White House’s chief ploofer, says that Trump has “zero chance” at becoming president. This translates to me as they’re shaking in their taxpayer-funded wingtips over there at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue and are praying to God (or whoever the hell they pray to) that Trump doesn’t run.
I was at my favorite cigar bar in Miami this past week when one of my good conservative Cuban aficionados asked me if I could really vote for Trump, to which I said, “Uh … yeah. I voted for McCain. I still haven’t forgiven myself. Pray for me.”
Here are my buddy’s problems with Trump:
1. He’s arrogant. My answer: Well, if he is, it’s not without cause.
He’s insanely successful. There’s nothing wrong about being right. (like I am with my parenting book. I believe it’s the best book in the world on raising righteous and rowdy girls, and my nation- changing kids prove it. It’s a fact, Jack. No need to be bashful.) As far as Trump is concerned, his business accomplishments are legendary. Why shouldn’t he be proud? BHO’s main claim to fame, before Soros put the first affirmative action president into the White House, was ACORN.
2. He’s an adulterer. As a Christian and a conservative I’m supposed to shun Donald because he’s an adulterer, to which I say, according to the biblical maxim … well, aren’t we all? I believe Jesus said that if you look lustfully at a woman it’s the same as if you shagged her. One comedian put it succinctly by telling the sanctimonious who condemn those who’ve literally wandered from their marital vows by saying, “He that hath an empty hand, let him throw the first stone.”
3. Trump is not serious, and this is just a publicity stunt. Yeah? Well, it’s a value added punking as he is saying all the things to Obama and his ilk that Americans want someone with a big prime time megaphone to say.
I think the Trump Rebellion is dee-licious. It’s injecting attitude and information, not via some tepid politico but via a mogul who has had enough of Barack’s bunkum, who gets the socialistic game Hussein is hoisting on us, and who hates countries who hate and use us. Trump is probably the only one with the money (or who could get the sufficient cash) to go up against this Soros-funded reelection hell machine.
So, is The Donald the perfect candidate? Look, Spanky, no one is perfect.
Jesus was the only perfect person to schlep this rock. However, comb over be damned, I’d vote for Trump right now. My perfect candidate, however, would be an amalgam of several candidates, a combination of Donald Trump with Mitt Romney’s hair, Newt Gingrich’s grasp of American History, and Mike Huckabee’s heart. Bam! That’s gold. Pure gold.
Anyway, if DT does not take on BHO he sure as heck has shown the boys and girls looking on that you can take BHO on and not be McCain McNice about it, and giddy Americans will line up behind you because they are pig sick of how Obama is destroying our great land.
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I think if he runs and picks bachmann or west or rubio - he will steamroll bama into oblivion.
I wish he would run and pick Bachmann...Colbert and Leno would have a field day with all the gaffes they'd be able to write jokes about ;)
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I think the Trump Rebellion is dee-licious.
LAME.
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Heard someone say today that Democrats might be helping inflate Trump's numbers. Not sure how that is possible, but I would imagine Democrats would do whatever they could to make him the nominee. Sort of like an Alvin Greene (from South Carolina) thing.
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Well... in the past, sure. But lately? She's calm as hell dude. She's realized and pauses before answering anything. Much more effective this way. Doesn't seem nutty - seems wise when she does this.
I wouldn't go that far.
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Here we go with the "gotcha" questions. ::)
Trump stumbles over abortion issue
By: CNN's Abby Livingston
(CNN) – Donald Trump appeared to stumble into a contradiction in an interview Tuesday - a misstep that could haunt the potential GOP presidential candidate amongst social conservatives.
In an interview with MSNBC, Trump was asked if he believed there was a right to privacy in the Constitution - a right that, while not explicitly stated in the Constitution, the Supreme Court has said can be inferred from the text.
He responded, "I guess there is, I guess there is."
Then his tone of voice changed and he followed up with, "And why, just out of curiosity, why do you ask that question?"
When NBC's Savannah Guthrie wondered how that line of legal theory "squares" with his pro-life stance, Trump said, "Well, that's a pretty strange way of getting to pro-life. I mean, it's a very unique way of asking about pro-life. What does that have to do with privacy? How are you equating pro-life with privacy?"
To answer Trump's question, the United States Supreme Court equated the right to privacy as grounds to legalize abortion in its controversial 1973 Roe v. Wade decision.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/04/19/trump-stumbles-over-abortion-issue/#more-155514
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Gallup shows Trump tied with Huckabee among GOP primary voters (Romney Close Behind)
Hotair ^ | 04/22/2011 | Ed Morrissey
Keep one thing in mind when looking at the data from Gallup’s latest poll of the Republican field. Their sample includes “Republican-leaning independents” as well as registered Republicans. That’s important, because it helps explain Donald Trump’s sudden resonance in the field:
Donald Trump debuts in a first-place tie in Gallup’s latest update of Republicans’ preferences for the party’s 2012 presidential nomination among potential contenders. Trump ties Mike Huckabee at 16%, with Mitt Romney close behind at 13%. Sarah Palin is the only other potential Republican candidate to earn double-digit support.
The April 15-20 Gallup poll finds Trump leading the field among moderate and liberal Republicans, with 21% supporting him. Huckabee is the leader among conservative Republicans. Huckabee’s support and Trump’s support differ between ideological groups, while Romney and Palin get similar support from both ideological wings of the party.
Among the lower-ranked candidates, Newt Gingrich’s support and Michele Bachmann’s support tilt decidedly conservative. Trump is the only potential candidate who shows notably stronger appeal to liberals and moderates than to conservatives within the GOP.
Let’s point out, though, that even where differences exist, they’re rather small — the consequence of a large field with no one frontrunner at this stage. Huckabee’s support split is 13/18 in moderate-to-liberal/conservative voters; Trump’s is 21/13, Romney 14/13. Between the three of them, that accounts for 48% of the moderate-liberal voters and 44% of the conservatives, leaving plenty of room for another candidate to grab the brass ring when the race gets serious. Interestingly, Palin in fourth place splits almost evenly between the two, 11/10.
The Boss Emeritus did some digging on Trump and comes up with what should be a kayo on Kelo:
Too many mega-developers like Trump have achieved success by using and abusing the government’s ability to commandeer private property for purported “public use.” Invoking the Fifth Amendment takings clause, real estate moguls, parking garage builders, mall developers and sports palace architects have colluded with elected officials to pull off legalized theft in the name of reducing “blight.” Under eminent domain, the definition of “public purpose” has been stretched like Silly Putty to cover everything from roads and bridges to high-end retail stores, baseball stadiums and casinos.
While casting himself as America’s new constitutional savior, Trump has shown reckless disregard for fundamental private property rights. In the 1990s, he waged a notorious war on elderly homeowner Vera Coking, who owned a little home in Atlantic City that stood in the way of Trump’s manifest land development. The real estate mogul was determined to expand his Trump Plaza and build a limo parking lot — Coking’s private property be damned. The nonprofit Institute for Justice, which successfully saved Coking’s home, explained the confiscatory scheme …
Trump has attempted to use the same tactics in Connecticut and has championed the reviled Kelo vs. City of New London Supreme Court ruling upholding expansive use of eminent domain. He told Fox News anchor Neil Cavuto that he agreed with the ruling “100 percent” and defended the chilling power of government to kick people out of their homes and businesses based on arbitrary determinations:
“The fact is, if you have a person living in an area that’s not even necessarily a good area, and government, whether it’s local or whatever, government wants to build a tremendous economic development, where a lot of people are going to be put to work and make (an) area that’s not good into a good area, and move the person that’s living there into a better place — now, I know it might not be their choice — but move the person to a better place and yet create thousands upon thousands of jobs and beautification and lots of other things, I think it happens to be good.”
Silly conservatives still believe that the person who owns the property should decide what kind of private-sector use should be made of it, not the government, and not wealthy developers who play footsie with politicians to take what doesn’t belong to them. Property rights are the core of freedom; in fact, they are the first rights mentioned in the Constitution for that reason. Long before one gets to the First Amendment, Article I Section 8 grants the responsibility to Congress to “To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries[.]“ And in the Fifth Amendment, we find that the Constitution mandates “nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.”
Here’s my question regarding the Trump boomlet. If Republicans want to rally behind a pro-choice (before campaigning), pro-single-payer health care (before campaigning), pro-Kelo mercantilist, what exactly is wrong with Rudy Giuliani? His positions were far to the right of Trump’s on these issues before Trump decided to show up at CPAC, plus Giuliani has had a track record of success in executive office that didn’t involve strongarming people out of their property. Or for that matter, what exactly is wrong with Huckabee, Romney, Pawlenty, or the rest of the candidates whose conservative credentials activists question, in light of Trump’s sudden Republican advent?
Update: CNN demonstrates that Trump will be a pretty easy target if he wins the nomination:
I’d guess that Eliot Spitzer might have some personal animus he’s working out here, but that’s the point, isn’t it? Why offer the easy target?
CLICK ABOVE LINK FOR THE VIDEO
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Gallup shows Trump tied with Huckabee among GOP primary voters (Romney Close Behind)
Hotair ^ | 04/22/2011 | Ed Morrissey
Keep one thing in mind when looking at the data from Gallup’s latest poll of the Republican field. Their sample includes “Republican-leaning independents” as well as registered Republicans. That’s important, because it helps explain Donald Trump’s sudden resonance in the field:
Donald Trump debuts in a first-place tie in Gallup’s latest update of Republicans’ preferences for the party’s 2012 presidential nomination among potential contenders. Trump ties Mike Huckabee at 16%, with Mitt Romney close behind at 13%. Sarah Palin is the only other potential Republican candidate to earn double-digit support.
The April 15-20 Gallup poll finds Trump leading the field among moderate and liberal Republicans, with 21% supporting him. Huckabee is the leader among conservative Republicans. Huckabee’s support and Trump’s support differ between ideological groups, while Romney and Palin get similar support from both ideological wings of the party.
Among the lower-ranked candidates, Newt Gingrich’s support and Michele Bachmann’s support tilt decidedly conservative. Trump is the only potential candidate who shows notably stronger appeal to liberals and moderates than to conservatives within the GOP.
Let’s point out, though, that even where differences exist, they’re rather small — the consequence of a large field with no one frontrunner at this stage. Huckabee’s support split is 13/18 in moderate-to-liberal/conservative voters; Trump’s is 21/13, Romney 14/13. Between the three of them, that accounts for 48% of the moderate-liberal voters and 44% of the conservatives, leaving plenty of room for another candidate to grab the brass ring when the race gets serious. Interestingly, Palin in fourth place splits almost evenly between the two, 11/10.
The Boss Emeritus did some digging on Trump and comes up with what should be a kayo on Kelo:
Too many mega-developers like Trump have achieved success by using and abusing the government’s ability to commandeer private property for purported “public use.” Invoking the Fifth Amendment takings clause, real estate moguls, parking garage builders, mall developers and sports palace architects have colluded with elected officials to pull off legalized theft in the name of reducing “blight.” Under eminent domain, the definition of “public purpose” has been stretched like Silly Putty to cover everything from roads and bridges to high-end retail stores, baseball stadiums and casinos.
While casting himself as America’s new constitutional savior, Trump has shown reckless disregard for fundamental private property rights. In the 1990s, he waged a notorious war on elderly homeowner Vera Coking, who owned a little home in Atlantic City that stood in the way of Trump’s manifest land development. The real estate mogul was determined to expand his Trump Plaza and build a limo parking lot — Coking’s private property be damned. The nonprofit Institute for Justice, which successfully saved Coking’s home, explained the confiscatory scheme …
Trump has attempted to use the same tactics in Connecticut and has championed the reviled Kelo vs. City of New London Supreme Court ruling upholding expansive use of eminent domain. He told Fox News anchor Neil Cavuto that he agreed with the ruling “100 percent” and defended the chilling power of government to kick people out of their homes and businesses based on arbitrary determinations:
“The fact is, if you have a person living in an area that’s not even necessarily a good area, and government, whether it’s local or whatever, government wants to build a tremendous economic development, where a lot of people are going to be put to work and make (an) area that’s not good into a good area, and move the person that’s living there into a better place — now, I know it might not be their choice — but move the person to a better place and yet create thousands upon thousands of jobs and beautification and lots of other things, I think it happens to be good.”
Silly conservatives still believe that the person who owns the property should decide what kind of private-sector use should be made of it, not the government, and not wealthy developers who play footsie with politicians to take what doesn’t belong to them. Property rights are the core of freedom; in fact, they are the first rights mentioned in the Constitution for that reason. Long before one gets to the First Amendment, Article I Section 8 grants the responsibility to Congress to “To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries[.]“ And in the Fifth Amendment, we find that the Constitution mandates “nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.”
Here’s my question regarding the Trump boomlet. If Republicans want to rally behind a pro-choice (before campaigning), pro-single-payer health care (before campaigning), pro-Kelo mercantilist, what exactly is wrong with Rudy Giuliani? His positions were far to the right of Trump’s on these issues before Trump decided to show up at CPAC, plus Giuliani has had a track record of success in executive office that didn’t involve strongarming people out of their property. Or for that matter, what exactly is wrong with Huckabee, Romney, Pawlenty, or the rest of the candidates whose conservative credentials activists question, in light of Trump’s sudden Republican advent?
Update: CNN demonstrates that Trump will be a pretty easy target if he wins the nomination:
I’d guess that Eliot Spitzer might have some personal animus he’s working out here, but that’s the point, isn’t it? Why offer the easy target?
CLICK ABOVE LINK FOR THE VIDEO
:o :o :o :o :o
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Gallup shows Trump tied with Huckabee among GOP primary voters (Romney Close Behind)
Hotair ^ | 04/22/2011 | Ed Morrissey
Keep one thing in mind when looking at the data from Gallup’s latest poll of the Republican field. Their sample includes “Republican-leaning independents” as well as registered Republicans. That’s important, because it helps explain Donald Trump’s sudden resonance in the field:
Donald Trump debuts in a first-place tie in Gallup’s latest update of Republicans’ preferences for the party’s 2012 presidential nomination among potential contenders. Trump ties Mike Huckabee at 16%, with Mitt Romney close behind at 13%. Sarah Palin is the only other potential Republican candidate to earn double-digit support.
The April 15-20 Gallup poll finds Trump leading the field among moderate and liberal Republicans, with 21% supporting him. Huckabee is the leader among conservative Republicans. Huckabee’s support and Trump’s support differ between ideological groups, while Romney and Palin get similar support from both ideological wings of the party.
Among the lower-ranked candidates, Newt Gingrich’s support and Michele Bachmann’s support tilt decidedly conservative. Trump is the only potential candidate who shows notably stronger appeal to liberals and moderates than to conservatives within the GOP.
Let’s point out, though, that even where differences exist, they’re rather small — the consequence of a large field with no one frontrunner at this stage. Huckabee’s support split is 13/18 in moderate-to-liberal/conservative voters; Trump’s is 21/13, Romney 14/13. Between the three of them, that accounts for 48% of the moderate-liberal voters and 44% of the conservatives, leaving plenty of room for another candidate to grab the brass ring when the race gets serious. Interestingly, Palin in fourth place splits almost evenly between the two, 11/10.
The Boss Emeritus did some digging on Trump and comes up with what should be a kayo on Kelo:
Too many mega-developers like Trump have achieved success by using and abusing the government’s ability to commandeer private property for purported “public use.” Invoking the Fifth Amendment takings clause, real estate moguls, parking garage builders, mall developers and sports palace architects have colluded with elected officials to pull off legalized theft in the name of reducing “blight.” Under eminent domain, the definition of “public purpose” has been stretched like Silly Putty to cover everything from roads and bridges to high-end retail stores, baseball stadiums and casinos.
While casting himself as America’s new constitutional savior, Trump has shown reckless disregard for fundamental private property rights. In the 1990s, he waged a notorious war on elderly homeowner Vera Coking, who owned a little home in Atlantic City that stood in the way of Trump’s manifest land development. The real estate mogul was determined to expand his Trump Plaza and build a limo parking lot — Coking’s private property be damned. The nonprofit Institute for Justice, which successfully saved Coking’s home, explained the confiscatory scheme …
Trump has attempted to use the same tactics in Connecticut and has championed the reviled Kelo vs. City of New London Supreme Court ruling upholding expansive use of eminent domain. He told Fox News anchor Neil Cavuto that he agreed with the ruling “100 percent” and defended the chilling power of government to kick people out of their homes and businesses based on arbitrary determinations:
“The fact is, if you have a person living in an area that’s not even necessarily a good area, and government, whether it’s local or whatever, government wants to build a tremendous economic development, where a lot of people are going to be put to work and make (an) area that’s not good into a good area, and move the person that’s living there into a better place — now, I know it might not be their choice — but move the person to a better place and yet create thousands upon thousands of jobs and beautification and lots of other things, I think it happens to be good.”
Silly conservatives still believe that the person who owns the property should decide what kind of private-sector use should be made of it, not the government, and not wealthy developers who play footsie with politicians to take what doesn’t belong to them. Property rights are the core of freedom; in fact, they are the first rights mentioned in the Constitution for that reason. Long before one gets to the First Amendment, Article I Section 8 grants the responsibility to Congress to “To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries[.]“ And in the Fifth Amendment, we find that the Constitution mandates “nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.”
Here’s my question regarding the Trump boomlet. If Republicans want to rally behind a pro-choice (before campaigning), pro-single-payer health care (before campaigning), pro-Kelo mercantilist, what exactly is wrong with Rudy Giuliani? His positions were far to the right of Trump’s on these issues before Trump decided to show up at CPAC, plus Giuliani has had a track record of success in executive office that didn’t involve strongarming people out of their property. Or for that matter, what exactly is wrong with Huckabee, Romney, Pawlenty, or the rest of the candidates whose conservative credentials activists question, in light of Trump’s sudden Republican advent?
Update: CNN demonstrates that Trump will be a pretty easy target if he wins the nomination:
I’d guess that Eliot Spitzer might have some personal animus he’s working out here, but that’s the point, isn’t it? Why offer the easy target?
CLICK ABOVE LINK FOR THE VIDEO
O.K. I am officially anti-Trump. I don't dig the taking of private property thing at all.
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O.K. I am officially anti-Trump. I don't dig the taking of private property thing at all.
Welcome aboard Beach.
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Welcome aboard Beach.
If Trump can beat ama - I will vote for him the same way i would vote for madoff / vandersloot if they can beat bama.
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If Trump can beat ama - I will vote for him the same way i would vote for madoff / vandersloot if they can beat bama.
Then you are being every bit the "kneepadder" that you claim the obama people are.
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Then you are being every bit the "kneepadder" that you claim the obama people are.
I agree - and I will accept that tag if it means bama is gone. I am perfectly read to do nasty, previously unthinkable, entirely unpalatable things if it means barry is out of there.
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I agree - and I will accept that tag if it means bama is gone. I am perfectly read to do nasty, previously unthinkable, entirely unpalatable things if it means barry is out of there.
That is the exact thinking that put Obama in office in the first place... Change Obama for Bush (via McCain) and you get the exact reason why Obama won.
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That is the exact thinking that put Obama in office in the first place... Change Obama for Bush (via McCain) and you get the exact reason why Obama won.
I get that. But lets say its Trump. Trump starts out with a 50/50 chance he screws up. With obama - is a 95/5 chance he screws up.
So by the numbers, I have to choose Trump on the probability he will do a better job than we have seen.
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a TRUE statesman would never say "I guess" about ANYTHING in the constiution. if he didn't know, then he would not answer.
Trump's just winging it. Which is great for tv and ratings and excitement. but for bring president? Will he just "guess" on things when the G20 leaders stare us down?
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So what brilliant strategy has the messiah been pursuing?
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So what brilliant strategy has the messiah been pursuing?
???? WTF?
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I get that. But lets say its Trump. Trump starts out with a 50/50 chance he screws up. With obama - is a 95/5 chance he screws up.
So by the numbers, I have to choose Trump on the probability he will do a better job than we have seen.
The 50/50 chance is why I voted for Obama... I see no difference in your reasoning than mine to be honest.
Only you're backing a guy who is questioning the legality of the guy in office to actually hold the position... And it's a conspiracy at that... Seems a bit off.
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So what brilliant strategy has the messiah been pursuing?
Do you consider yourself a misanthrope?
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Trump in full Gallup
NY Post ^ | April 23, 2011 | S.A. MILLER
WASHINGTON -- Donald Trump's stock is rising.
Trump was tied for first place with Mike Huckabee in his debut yesterday in the Gallup poll of Republicans' choices for the 2012 presidential nomination.
Both garnered 16 percent from registered Republicans.
Trump's popularity was buoyed by strong support among liberal and moderate Republicans, who, unfortunately for Trump, are typically outnumbered by conservatives 2 to 1 among GOP primary voters.
Huckabee, the former Arkansas governor who now hosts his own show on Fox News Channel, had a commanding lead among conservative Republicans, 18 percent to Trump's 13.
Trump carried moderate/liberal Republicans 21-13 percent over Huckabee.
In the survey of all Republicans, they were trailed by Mitt Romney (13 percent), Sarah Palin (10), Ron Paul (6), Newt Gingrich (6) and Michele Bachmann (4).
(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...
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Fact check: Trump's voting record
By: CNN's Nina Golgowski
NEW YORK (CNN) – Donald Trump's affirmation that he's voted in every general election disagrees with actual voting records, according to a spokeswoman with the New York City Board of Elections.
“I voted in every general election,” Trump told CNN affiliate NY1 by phone Friday. “I have records that I voted and so does the Board of Elections. … I signed in at every election.”
However, voting records obtained by the board of elections show that Trump did not vote in the 2002 general election, according to Valerie L. Vazquez, director of communications at the board.
The records also show that Trump skipped at least three presidential primaries and two mayoral primaries over the past 25 years, Vazquez said Friday.
Vazquez has found voting records by Trump for only two party primaries – the 1989 GOP mayoral primary and last year’s GOP primary for several statewide races, including governor and U.S. Senate.
Vazquez said she was able to obtain the voting records using both Trump’s voting bus cards, used prior to 1992 to document a voter’s activity, as well as through the BOE's electronic records database, used from 1992 to the present. Both the bus cards and electronic records provide the ballot time and whether it was cast on site or by absentee vote. Records also showed Trump has changed his party registration three times over the past 20 years.
Vazquez was confident that her records are complete, saying there is not a loophole that would hide a possible vote.
But when asked by NY1 Friday about the discrepancy presented by information from the election board and his claim, Trump said, "You're going to pay a big price because you're wrong."
A call to Trump for comment was not immediately returned.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/04/22/fact-check-trump-skipped-three-presidential-primary-votes/#more-156269
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Donald Trump skipped primary elections for 21 years, official says
The New York City Board of Elections says records show the potential presidential candidate also didn't vote in the 2002 general election. Trump says the report is wrong.
Donald Trump says he's considering running in the primary for the Republican presidential nomination, but the real estate mogul didn't vote in primary elections for more than two decades, according to the New York City Board of Elections.
The possible GOP candidate voted in a primary election in the 1989 New York City mayor's race - when Rudy Giuliani beat businessman Ronald Lauder - then didn't vote in a primary for 21 years, board spokeswoman Valerie Vazquez said Saturday. The report on Trump's voting record initially appeared on TV station NY1 a day earlier.
Records also show Trump skipped the 2002 general election, when Republican incumbent Gov. George Pataki defeated Democrat H. Carl McCall, Vazquez said. But Trump told the station he's voted in every general election.
"You're going to pay a big price because you're wrong," he told the station. "I have records that I voted and so does the Board of Elections .... I signed in at every election."
His lawyer, Michael Cohen, defended Trump's voting practices Saturday.
"For one of the greatest international businessmen who travels all over the country and the world, his voting record is very, very good," Cohen said.
Cohen said Trump could not be reached for comment Saturday. The lawyer also said he could not confirm which party Trump belonged to in previous years.
Besides real estate, Trump has been a reality TV star and he once flirted with the idea of running for president as a third-party candidate.
Recently, he said he's weighing a 2012 presidential bid and will make an announcement in June.
Trump created media waves by aligning himself with the "birthers" by questioning whether President Obama was born in the United States. He also has said the U.S. should be entitled to Iraqi oil and he praised the "tea party" movement.
Copyright © 2011, Los Angeles Times
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Not voting in the primaries is no biggie in ny. By the times primaries roll around its all but over anyway.
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19 pages of reply after reply about will Trump run for president. That says a lot about the fact that Trump is a "household name" who has his own brand building enterprise based on being captain of his own industry.
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???? WTF?
You look pretty confused here.
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I agree - and I will accept that tag if it means bama is gone. I am perfectly read to do nasty, previously unthinkable, entirely unpalatable things if it means barry is out of there.
so its okay for you to be a kneepadder as you put it but Obama people aren't allowed to be..
HYPOCRISY NOTED AGAIN FOR THE 100TH TIME
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so its okay for you to be a kneepadder as you put it but Obama people aren't allowed to be..
HYPOCRISY NOTED AGAIN FOR THE 100TH TIME
I am honest about it. You are not.
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Trump Bashes Obama, Questions Qualifications for Ivy League
Associated Press ^ | Apr 25, 2011 | Beth Fouhy
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NEW YORK -- Real estate mogul Donald Trump suggested in an interview Monday that President Barack Obama had been a poor student who did not deserve to be admitted to the Ivy League universities he attended. Trump, who is mulling a bid for the Republican presidential nomination, offered no proof for his claim but said he would continue to press the matter as he has the legitimacy of the president's birth certificate.
"I heard he was a terrible student, terrible. How does a bad student go to Columbia and then to Harvard?" Trump said in an interview with The Associated Press. "I'm thinking about it, I'm certainly looking into it. Let him show his records."
Obama graduated from Columbia University in New York in 1983 with a degree in political science after transferring from Occidental College in California. He went on to Harvard Law School, where he graduated magna cum laude 1991 and was the first black president of the Harvard Law Review.
Obama's 2008 campaign did not release his college transcripts, and in his best-selling memoir, "Dreams From My Father," Obama indicated he hadn't always been an academic star. Trump told the AP that Obama's refusal to release his college grades were part of a pattern of concealing information about himself.
(Excerpt) Read more at aolnews.com ...
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Awesome - its all going to come out now. This is going to be like Godfather 2 where Michael (Trump) forces Fredo (Obama) to come clean on everything.
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He's done. Not that he was ever a legitimate threat. But no way he recovers from this.
Medical Deferment Allowed Trump to Dodge Vietnam War
Published April 30, 2011
FoxNews.com
After taking credit for President Obama releasing his long-form birth certificate to quell doubts about his citizenship, real estate developer Donald Trump may have to release his own records to address questions about his past.
Donald Trump, who claimed this week that a high draft number kept him from fighting for his country in Vietnam, actually received a series of student deferments while in college and a medical deferment after graduation, according to Selective Service records.
The Smoking Gun first reported the revelation after obtaining the paperwork from the National Archives and Records Administration. But it's still not known what medical problem Trump had or whether he still has it.
On Tuesday, Trump never mentioned his medical deferment when he told WNYW, the Fox affiliate in New York City why he didn't serve in the war.
"I actually got lucky because I had a very high draft number. I'll never forget, that was an amazing period of time in my life.
"I was going to the Wharton School of Finance, and I was watching as they did the draft numbers and I got a very, very high number and those numbers never got up to," he said.
Trump has come under heavy scrutiny ever since he began threatening to run for president weeks ago and vaulted past other potential GOP contenders in the polls with his tough talk and confrontational style. The Selective Service records were released one day after Obama unexpectedly released his long-form birth certificate showing he was born in Hawaii.
Obama said he released the records so the country could move past the" sideshows and carnival barkers" and focus on serious issues.
But Trump is still pushing the president to releases his academic records to prove he was worthy of admission into Columbia and Harvard.
The Selective Service records also include a copy of the registration card Trump signed in 1964 -- shortly after he turned 18 – revealing that Trump has birthmarks on both his heels, the Smoking Gun reported
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/04/30/medical-deferment-allowed-trump-dodge-vietnam-war/
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Do you guys think Trump is into anal?
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Do you guys think Trump is into anal?
yes he is.....Obama just gave it to him by releasing his BC :D
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Trump: Obama Re-election Will Lead to Second Crash
Newsmax ^ | 05/11/11 | Jim Meyers
Billionaire and potential presidential candidate Trump told a business gathering in New Hampshire that the 2012 presidential election will decide the economic fate of America and vows that if he runs and wins “this country will be great again.”
In an address carried live by Newsmax via streaming video on Wednesday, Trump warned that the re-election of President Obama would lead to a huge increase in taxes, called for an end to Obamacare, and said high oil prices will lead to a “second crash."
Editor’s Note: If you missed the live event of Donald Trump’s speech, you can watch a recording by clicking here.
(Excerpt) Read more at newsmax.com ...
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Trump: Obama Re-election Will Lead to Second Crash
Newsmax ^ | 05/11/11 | Jim Meyers
If Trump will lie about his military service to our nation, is there anything he won't lie about?
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If Trump will lie about his military service to our nation, is there anything he won't lie about?
Did you ask the same questions of bama before voting for him?
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Did you ask the same questions of bama before voting for him?
what are obama's quotes about dodging the draft?
Obama was born in 61 and I think the draft lasted until 74.
So if his 13-year-old ass was too good to go to war, we demand answers.
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what are obama's quotes about dodging the draft?
Obama was born in 61 and I think the draft lasted until 74.
So if his 13-year-old ass was too good to go to war, we demand answers.
No, of all his other lies.
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No, of all his other lies.
I see.
So a valid defense of "Trump caught in lie about military draft" is "Obama lied about other things".
Gotcha.
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I see.
So a valid defense of "Trump caught in lie about military draft" is "Obama lied about other things".
Gotcha.
Not at all - but if you excused Obama lies you cant call others out on Trump lies. ;D ;D ;D
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Not at all - but if you excused Obama lies you cant call others out on Trump lies. ;D ;D ;D
who excused obama's lies? link?
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who excused obama's lies? link?
Of all people 240? come on now. ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Buying a Trump Property, or So They Thought
By MICHAEL BARBARO
For many middle-class Americans, it is the most coveted brand in real estate, synonymous with sky-piercing luxury and can’t-miss quality: Donald J. Trump.
Far from the New York City towers that bear his name, in cities like Tampa, Fla., and Philadelphia, house hunters clamor to buy into his developments, sometimes exhausting credit lines and wiping out savings for a chance to own a piece of his gilded empire.
But as Mr. Trump, who is weighing a bid for the White House, has zealously sought to cash in on his name, he has entered into arrangements that home buyers describe as deliberately deceptive — designed, they said, to exploit the very thing that drew them to his buildings: their faith in him.
Over the last few years, according to interviews and hundreds of pages of court documents, the real estate mogul has aggressively marketed several luxury high-rises as “Trump properties” or “signature Trump” buildings, with names like Trump Tower and Trump International — even making appearances at the properties to woo buyers. The strong indication of his involvement as a developer generated waves of media attention and commanded premium prices.
But when three of the planned buildings encountered financial trouble, it became clear that Mr. Trump had essentially rented his name to the developments and had no responsibility for their outcomes, according to buyers. In each case, he yanked his name off the projects, which were never completed. The buyers lost millions of dollars in deposits even as Mr. Trump pocketed hefty license fees.
Those who bought the apartments in part because of the Trump name were livid, saying they felt a profound sense of betrayal, and more than 300 of them are now suing Mr. Trump or his company.
“The last thing you ever expect is that somebody you revere will mislead you,” said Alex Davis, 38, who bought a $500,000 unit in Trump International Hotel and Tower Fort Lauderdale, a waterfront property that Mr. Trump described in marketing materials as “my latest development” and compared to the Trump tower on Central Park in Manhattan.
“There was no disclaimer that he was not the developer,” Mr. Davis said. The building, where construction was halted when a major lender ran out of money in 2009, sits empty and unfinished, the outlines of a giant Trump sign, removed long ago, still faintly visible.
Mr. Davis is unable to recover any of his $100,000 deposit — half of which the developer used for construction costs.
Another casualty: his admiration for Mr. Trump, whose books and television show Mr. Davis had devoured. “I bought into an idea of him,” he said, “and it wasn’t what I thought it was.”
Alan Garten, a lawyer for Mr. Trump’s company, said that, regardless of what Mr. Trump himself or any marketing materials had suggested, his role was disclosed in lengthy purchasing documents that buyers should have carefully scrutinized. But in an interview, Mr. Garten acknowledged that, “without a lawyer, it can be difficult” to understand such documents. He suggested that the housing market collapse, not Mr. Trump, was the cause of their troubles.
“They are people who lost money and are looking for somebody to blame,” Mr. Garten said.
Mr. Trump’s Midas touch as a businessman, sometimes real, other times perceived, is central to his presidential aspirations, which have become increasingly hard for Republicans to ignore, even as some of them cringe at his blunt remarks and boastfulness. In the next month, he is scheduled to visit two key primary-season states, South Carolina and Iowa, as he further tests the waters. “I have made myself very rich,” he said recently, sitting in his palatial suite at the Trump International Hotel in Las Vegas. “And I would make this country very rich.”
But regardless of whether Mr. Trump ultimately seeks the presidency, his attempt to promote himself as a savvy financial manager who can lead America out of its economic rut is bringing new scrutiny to his own business practices.
Despite high-profile stumbles, like the bankruptcy of Atlantic City casinos bearing his name, Mr. Trump has nurtured plenty of successful projects, in real estate and beyond: memberships to his golf clubs sell briskly, his men’s suits are a hit at Macy’s, and his NBC series, “The Apprentice,” is a ratings smash. Mr. Trump, in an interview, said the show had earned him well over $100 million.
Yet in recent years, as his brand has experienced an “Apprentice”-fueled resurgence, it appears that Mr. Trump, 64, has taken an expansive approach to putting his name on products big and small. There are Trump mattresses, Trump ties, Trump video games, Trump bottled water and Trump chocolates (designed to resemble bars of gold, silver and copper.)
But it is Mr. Trump’s real estate and education products that have enticed many Americans to invest life savings and dreams of quick riches. And it is with these products, according to a string of lawsuits and complaints filed around the country, that Mr. Trump has disappointed his fans most deeply.
Opening a ‘University’
As the American housing market climbed toward its peak, in 2005, Mr. Trump opened a for-profit school, called Trump University, to impart his wisdom about real estate and moneymaking to the general public.
In marketing materials, he promised students that his handpicked team of instructors would “teach you better than the best business school,” according to the transcript of a Web video. The same year, Mr. Trump licensed his name to an affiliated program, called the Trump Institute, which offered similar classes.
Dozens of complaints about both schools have rolled into the offices of attorneys general in Florida, Texas, New York and Illinois, officials said. And last year, the Better Business Bureau gave Trump University a D-minus, the second-lowest grade on its scale, after it fielded 23 complaints.
A lawsuit filed in 2010 by four dissatisfied former students, who are seeking class-action status, accuses Trump University of offering classes that amounted to extended “infomercials,” “selling nonaccredited products,” and “taking advantage of these troubled economic times to prey on consumers’ fears.”
According to the court papers, the university used high-pressure sales tactics to enroll students in classes that cost up to $35,000, at times encouraging them to raise their credit card limits to pay for them. It promised intensive one-on-one instruction that often failed to materialize. And its mentors recommended investments from which they stood to profit.
“It was almost completely worthless,” said Jeffrey Tufenkian, 49, who along with his wife, Sona, enrolled in a $35,000 “Gold Elite” class at Trump University to jump-start a career in real estate.
Mr. Tufenkian, who lives in Portland, Ore., was especially drawn to what Trump University described as a year-long mentorship. But he said that it amounted to a real estate expert from California taking him on a tour of homes in Portland that he could have seen on his own, for free.
At one point, he said, the mentor suggested an educational trip to Home Depot, an idea he found comical; at another, he said, the mentor recommended a sales technique (selling the option to buy a house), that several lawyers later told Mr. Tufenkian he was ineligible to perform because he lacked a real estate license. He recalled how, during a much cheaper Trump class on foreclosure, he and his wife were encouraged by instructors to raise their credit card limits, ostensibly in anticipation of investing in real estate, only to have the accounts maxed out with the purchase of the next $35,000 class, a charge mirrored in the lawsuit. The fee, and the resulting credit card interest payments, have wiped out much of the couple’s savings. Mr. Tufenkian’s requests for a refund have been rejected.
“You can understand how a business makes mistakes,” he said, “but a proper business will do what it takes to make it right. Trump University has no interest in taking care of its customers.”
George Sorial, a managing director and lawyer at the Trump Organization, the company that oversees Mr. Trump’s various businesses, said that the school had a “very generous” refund policy — and that less than two percent of students ask for their money back.
Mr. Sorial called claims that instructors took students on tours of Home Depot and asked students to raise their credit limits “ridiculous” and “unsubstantiated.” He said mentors were prohibited from profiting from their advice. According to student evaluations, he said, Trump University has a 97 percent customer satisfaction rate with its 11,000 paying students around the country.
“I guarantee that if you went out and surveyed Harvard grads, you would find some who are not happy. It’s inevitable,” he said. “You cannot look at the exception to the rule.”
Students said the evaluations must be put into context: they were told to fill them out using their names, often in the presence of the instructors they were assessing. Mr. Tufenkian, for example, said he gave high marks to the program after his mentor told him he would not leave until Mr. Tufenkian did so. “I had to fill it out right in front of him,” Mr. Tufenkian said.
The school has repeatedly sought to use such evaluations to raise questions about the credibility of unhappy former students. After Tarla Makaeff, who spent about $37,000 on Trump classes, joined the lawsuit against the school, the company released raw footage of a Trump University videographer approaching her in a hotel conference room, asking her to assess the program and her mentors. On the video, her mentors can be seen standing beside her, clearly within earshot. While warning that “we just got started,” Ms. Makaeff, 37, calls the mentors “great” and “awesome.”
In retrospect, Ms. Makaeff said, university employees “were trying to cover themselves,” by putting her on tape. Trump University is now suing her for defamation, seeking at least $1 million in damages for her public criticism of the school in letters, e-mail and online. “That just shows you how low they will go to silence people,” Ms. Makaeff said.
The school’s troubles are intensifying. Last year, the Texas attorney general, Greg Abbott, opened a civil investigation into Trump University’s practices. Since then, the company has agreed not to operate in Texas indefinitely, said Thomas Kelley, a spokesman for the attorney general. (Mr. Sorial said there was no formal agreement.)
And last March, New York state officials demanded that Trump University change its name, saying its use of the word university “is misleading and violates New York education law,” joining Maryland, which issued a similar warning in 2008.
The school has since changed its name to the Trump Entrepreneur Initiative, but has not held a new class in seven months as it reworks its curriculum. “It’s on hiatus,” Mr. Trump said in an interview.
The Trump Institute, meanwhile, shut down in 2009. “It doesn’t meet our standards,” Mr. Sorial said. “Our standards are very high.”
Selling the Name
Even as his empire has expanded into reality television and the clothing aisle, Mr. Trump remains, at least in the public imagination, primarily a real estate developer.
But to a remarkable degree over the last five years, Mr. Trump has retreated from that role, becoming, instead, a highly-paid licensor, who leases his five-letter brand name to other developers in Toronto, Honolulu, Dubai and even his own backyard, New York City.
The arrangements allowed Mr. Trump, who is notoriously competitive, to remain a player in the world of big-city builders without risking his own money — a prospect that seemed especially appealing as the economy began to crater . . .
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/13/nyregion/feeling-deceived-over-homes-that-were-trump-in-name-only.html?_r=1&ref=realestate&pagewanted=all
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Buying a Trump Property, or So They Thought
By MICHAEL BARBARO
For many middle-class Americans, it is the most coveted brand in real estate, synonymous with sky-piercing luxury and can’t-miss quality: Donald J. Trump.
Far from the New York City towers that bear his name, in cities like Tampa, Fla., and Philadelphia, house hunters clamor to buy into his developments, sometimes exhausting credit lines and wiping out savings for a chance to own a piece of his gilded empire.
But as Mr. Trump, who is weighing a bid for the White House, has zealously sought to cash in on his name, he has entered into arrangements that home buyers describe as deliberately deceptive — designed, they said, to exploit the very thing that drew them to his buildings: their faith in him.
Over the last few years, according to interviews and hundreds of pages of court documents, the real estate mogul has aggressively marketed several luxury high-rises as “Trump properties” or “signature Trump” buildings, with names like Trump Tower and Trump International — even making appearances at the properties to woo buyers. The strong indication of his involvement as a developer generated waves of media attention and commanded premium prices.
But when three of the planned buildings encountered financial trouble, it became clear that Mr. Trump had essentially rented his name to the developments and had no responsibility for their outcomes, according to buyers. In each case, he yanked his name off the projects, which were never completed. The buyers lost millions of dollars in deposits even as Mr. Trump pocketed hefty license fees.
Those who bought the apartments in part because of the Trump name were livid, saying they felt a profound sense of betrayal, and more than 300 of them are now suing Mr. Trump or his company.
“The last thing you ever expect is that somebody you revere will mislead you,” said Alex Davis, 38, who bought a $500,000 unit in Trump International Hotel and Tower Fort Lauderdale, a waterfront property that Mr. Trump described in marketing materials as “my latest development” and compared to the Trump tower on Central Park in Manhattan.
“There was no disclaimer that he was not the developer,” Mr. Davis said. The building, where construction was halted when a major lender ran out of money in 2009, sits empty and unfinished, the outlines of a giant Trump sign, removed long ago, still faintly visible.
Mr. Davis is unable to recover any of his $100,000 deposit — half of which the developer used for construction costs.
Another casualty: his admiration for Mr. Trump, whose books and television show Mr. Davis had devoured. “I bought into an idea of him,” he said, “and it wasn’t what I thought it was.”
Alan Garten, a lawyer for Mr. Trump’s company, said that, regardless of what Mr. Trump himself or any marketing materials had suggested, his role was disclosed in lengthy purchasing documents that buyers should have carefully scrutinized. But in an interview, Mr. Garten acknowledged that, “without a lawyer, it can be difficult” to understand such documents. He suggested that the housing market collapse, not Mr. Trump, was the cause of their troubles.
“They are people who lost money and are looking for somebody to blame,” Mr. Garten said.
Mr. Trump’s Midas touch as a businessman, sometimes real, other times perceived, is central to his presidential aspirations, which have become increasingly hard for Republicans to ignore, even as some of them cringe at his blunt remarks and boastfulness. In the next month, he is scheduled to visit two key primary-season states, South Carolina and Iowa, as he further tests the waters. “I have made myself very rich,” he said recently, sitting in his palatial suite at the Trump International Hotel in Las Vegas. “And I would make this country very rich.”
But regardless of whether Mr. Trump ultimately seeks the presidency, his attempt to promote himself as a savvy financial manager who can lead America out of its economic rut is bringing new scrutiny to his own business practices.
Despite high-profile stumbles, like the bankruptcy of Atlantic City casinos bearing his name, Mr. Trump has nurtured plenty of successful projects, in real estate and beyond: memberships to his golf clubs sell briskly, his men’s suits are a hit at Macy’s, and his NBC series, “The Apprentice,” is a ratings smash. Mr. Trump, in an interview, said the show had earned him well over $100 million.
Yet in recent years, as his brand has experienced an “Apprentice”-fueled resurgence, it appears that Mr. Trump, 64, has taken an expansive approach to putting his name on products big and small. There are Trump mattresses, Trump ties, Trump video games, Trump bottled water and Trump chocolates (designed to resemble bars of gold, silver and copper.)
But it is Mr. Trump’s real estate and education products that have enticed many Americans to invest life savings and dreams of quick riches. And it is with these products, according to a string of lawsuits and complaints filed around the country, that Mr. Trump has disappointed his fans most deeply.
Opening a ‘University’
As the American housing market climbed toward its peak, in 2005, Mr. Trump opened a for-profit school, called Trump University, to impart his wisdom about real estate and moneymaking to the general public.
In marketing materials, he promised students that his handpicked team of instructors would “teach you better than the best business school,” according to the transcript of a Web video. The same year, Mr. Trump licensed his name to an affiliated program, called the Trump Institute, which offered similar classes.
Dozens of complaints about both schools have rolled into the offices of attorneys general in Florida, Texas, New York and Illinois, officials said. And last year, the Better Business Bureau gave Trump University a D-minus, the second-lowest grade on its scale, after it fielded 23 complaints.
A lawsuit filed in 2010 by four dissatisfied former students, who are seeking class-action status, accuses Trump University of offering classes that amounted to extended “infomercials,” “selling nonaccredited products,” and “taking advantage of these troubled economic times to prey on consumers’ fears.”
According to the court papers, the university used high-pressure sales tactics to enroll students in classes that cost up to $35,000, at times encouraging them to raise their credit card limits to pay for them. It promised intensive one-on-one instruction that often failed to materialize. And its mentors recommended investments from which they stood to profit.
“It was almost completely worthless,” said Jeffrey Tufenkian, 49, who along with his wife, Sona, enrolled in a $35,000 “Gold Elite” class at Trump University to jump-start a career in real estate.
Mr. Tufenkian, who lives in Portland, Ore., was especially drawn to what Trump University described as a year-long mentorship. But he said that it amounted to a real estate expert from California taking him on a tour of homes in Portland that he could have seen on his own, for free.
At one point, he said, the mentor suggested an educational trip to Home Depot, an idea he found comical; at another, he said, the mentor recommended a sales technique (selling the option to buy a house), that several lawyers later told Mr. Tufenkian he was ineligible to perform because he lacked a real estate license. He recalled how, during a much cheaper Trump class on foreclosure, he and his wife were encouraged by instructors to raise their credit card limits, ostensibly in anticipation of investing in real estate, only to have the accounts maxed out with the purchase of the next $35,000 class, a charge mirrored in the lawsuit. The fee, and the resulting credit card interest payments, have wiped out much of the couple’s savings. Mr. Tufenkian’s requests for a refund have been rejected.
“You can understand how a business makes mistakes,” he said, “but a proper business will do what it takes to make it right. Trump University has no interest in taking care of its customers.”
George Sorial, a managing director and lawyer at the Trump Organization, the company that oversees Mr. Trump’s various businesses, said that the school had a “very generous” refund policy — and that less than two percent of students ask for their money back.
Mr. Sorial called claims that instructors took students on tours of Home Depot and asked students to raise their credit limits “ridiculous” and “unsubstantiated.” He said mentors were prohibited from profiting from their advice. According to student evaluations, he said, Trump University has a 97 percent customer satisfaction rate with its 11,000 paying students around the country.
“I guarantee that if you went out and surveyed Harvard grads, you would find some who are not happy. It’s inevitable,” he said. “You cannot look at the exception to the rule.”
Students said the evaluations must be put into context: they were told to fill them out using their names, often in the presence of the instructors they were assessing. Mr. Tufenkian, for example, said he gave high marks to the program after his mentor told him he would not leave until Mr. Tufenkian did so. “I had to fill it out right in front of him,” Mr. Tufenkian said.
The school has repeatedly sought to use such evaluations to raise questions about the credibility of unhappy former students. After Tarla Makaeff, who spent about $37,000 on Trump classes, joined the lawsuit against the school, the company released raw footage of a Trump University videographer approaching her in a hotel conference room, asking her to assess the program and her mentors. On the video, her mentors can be seen standing beside her, clearly within earshot. While warning that “we just got started,” Ms. Makaeff, 37, calls the mentors “great” and “awesome.”
In retrospect, Ms. Makaeff said, university employees “were trying to cover themselves,” by putting her on tape. Trump University is now suing her for defamation, seeking at least $1 million in damages for her public criticism of the school in letters, e-mail and online. “That just shows you how low they will go to silence people,” Ms. Makaeff said.
The school’s troubles are intensifying. Last year, the Texas attorney general, Greg Abbott, opened a civil investigation into Trump University’s practices. Since then, the company has agreed not to operate in Texas indefinitely, said Thomas Kelley, a spokesman for the attorney general. (Mr. Sorial said there was no formal agreement.)
And last March, New York state officials demanded that Trump University change its name, saying its use of the word university “is misleading and violates New York education law,” joining Maryland, which issued a similar warning in 2008.
The school has since changed its name to the Trump Entrepreneur Initiative, but has not held a new class in seven months as it reworks its curriculum. “It’s on hiatus,” Mr. Trump said in an interview.
The Trump Institute, meanwhile, shut down in 2009. “It doesn’t meet our standards,” Mr. Sorial said. “Our standards are very high.”
Selling the Name
Even as his empire has expanded into reality television and the clothing aisle, Mr. Trump remains, at least in the public imagination, primarily a real estate developer.
But to a remarkable degree over the last five years, Mr. Trump has retreated from that role, becoming, instead, a highly-paid licensor, who leases his five-letter brand name to other developers in Toronto, Honolulu, Dubai and even his own backyard, New York City.
The arrangements allowed Mr. Trump, who is notoriously competitive, to remain a player in the world of big-city builders without risking his own money — a prospect that seemed especially appealing as the economy began to crater . . .
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/13/nyregion/feeling-deceived-over-homes-that-were-trump-in-name-only.html?_r=1&ref=realestate&pagewanted=all
Bay...very nice article....a lot of people outside of NY don';t know that trump is a con man....he is really not good at business except in selling his name and putting it on products and buildings that he really doesn't own....trump knows that running for president would be a disaster for him because all of his shady business deals would come out and he would have to disclose his finances which would show he is not as rich as people think and that his casinos are basically bankrupt
This the guy that 3333 worships and wants to run for president??????????
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Rezko anyone?
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Rezko anyone?
Pathetic attempt to deflect away the sinking ship that is Trump's presidential aspirations. :(
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trump is so awesome
I am voting for him.
The carnival barker is not running. ::)
Saturday night live has sucked so long so funny in white house dinner they devote it to slashing at donald.
They fear him.
Who is "they?" ???
He make obama forge the birth cert.
comedy
lots of people he did great service who wonsdered
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Pathetic attempt to deflect away the sinking ship that is Trump's presidential aspirations. :(
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Bay...very nice article....a lot of people outside of NY don';t know that trump is a con man....he is really not good at business except in selling his name and putting it on products and buildings that he really doesn't own....trump knows that running for president would be a disaster for him because all of his shady business deals would come out and he would have to disclose his finances which would show he is not as rich as people think and that his casinos are basically bankrupt
This the guy that 3333 worships and wants to run for president??????????
Trump was never serious about running for president. He merely wanted attention for his "brand" and the Apprentice. ::)
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Trump was never serious about running for president. He merely wanted attention for his "brand" and the Apprentice. ::)
Exactly... That's why every statement he made was "If I were the President." or "If I run for the office of President of the United States."
He can not do it and simply say, well, I didn't lie.
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Exactly... That's why every statement he made was "If I were the President." or "If I run for the office of President of the United States."
He can not do it and simply say, well, I didn't lie.
he used the GOP nominee position to pimp his TV show. He cast doubt upon the legitimacy of the leader of our nation to sell more ad time for NBC. He wasted a lot of airtime we could have been seeing legitimate GOP threats to Obama. And he made a lot of getbiggers look stupid with their "Trump 2012" threads.
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he used the GOP nominee position to pimp his TV show. He cast doubt upon the legitimacy of the leader of our nation to sell more ad time for NBC. He wasted a lot of airtime we could have been seeing legitimate GOP threats to Obama. And he made a lot of getbiggers look stupid with their "Trump 2012" threads.
Hey - it was entertaining no? ;D
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Hey - it was entertaining no? ;D
I'd rather be governed than entertained.
I'd rather the last 2 months were dedicated to Ryan, Romney, newt, Palin, huck, Jeb and Christie holding meetings on FOX each evening, hammering out a workable and realistic budget for america to see.
But hey, we were entertained :)
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I'd rather be governed than entertained.
I'd rather the last 2 months were dedicated to Ryan, Romney, newt, Palin, huck, Jeb and Christie holding meetings on FOX each evening, hammering out a workable and realistic budget for america to see.
But hey, we were entertained :)
Not going to happen - all we hear about now are Ryan killing old old people, Newts' ex wives, Romney's flip flops, Huck's pastor schtick, etc etc.
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Not going to happen - all we hear about now are Ryan killing old old people, Newts' ex wives, Romney's flip flops, Huck's pastor schtick, etc etc.
FOX plays along too dude. it's not about 'left' media. it's about ratings. FOX plays the same bullshite too.
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FOX plays along too dude. it's not about 'left' media. it's about ratings. FOX plays the same bullshite too.
For the 1,456,212 time - I hate Fox News.
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For the 1,456,212 time - I hate Fox News.
drudge too. "China Red" making fun of michelle's dress as the headline? They do the same thing as fox and msnbc. play upon emotions of anger and fear for ratings.
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Not going to happen - all we hear about now are Ryan killing old old people, Newts' ex wives, Romney's flip flops, Huck's pastor schtick, etc etc.
thats why ya gonna lose
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thats why ya gonna lose
No, that is why the nation is going to lose.
Obama's success = America's failure and collapse.
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No, that is why the nation is going to lose.
Obama's success = America's failure and collapse.
if a republican is elected the nation will definitely lose....raising taxes is the only way to balance the budget....Repubs have their head in the sand and will watch the deficit grow to prove a point
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if a republican is elected the nation will definitely lose....raising taxes is the only way to balance the budget....Repubs have their head in the sand and will watch the deficit grow to prove a point
Ha ha ha ha ha - unreal. What a joke you are. Who are you going to raise taxes on?
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if a republican is elected the nation will definitely lose....raising taxes is the only way to balance the budget....Repubs have their head in the sand and will watch the deficit grow to prove a point
The nation has already lost because of Obama. What the hell are you babbling about? It can't get any worst! The Democrats were the ones who kept their heads in the sand, worrying more about passing Obamacare and the Stim bill when they had control of both houses and the presidency, and just watched the nation go bankrupt. Obama and the Dems have proven they are no better than the previous administration.
It is a lie when you say raising taxes is the only way to balance the budget. It is not the only way. Expenses need to be cut. You lie and you know it.
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The nation has already lost because of Obama. What the hell are you babbling about? It can't get any worst! The Democrats were the ones who kept their heads in the sand, worrying more about passing Obamacare and the Stim bill when they had control of both houses and the presidency, and just watched the nation go bankrupt. Obama and the Dems have proven they are no better than the previous administration.
It is a lie when you say raising taxes is the only way to balance the budget. It is not the only way. Expenses need to be cut. You lie and you know it.
stop it with your nonsense....we didn't go bankrupt under Obama.,.we have been bankrupt for many years now...it didn't just happen..come on and get real..EVERY GODDAMN NON-PARTISAN ECONOMIST SAYS THAT THERE MUST BE A COMBINATION OF CUTTING SPENDING AND RAISING TAXES...THERE IS NO OTHER WAY AS YOU PUT IT..We are way past the point where only cutting spending will do the trick...
WAKE UP
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stop it with your nonsense....we didn't go bankrupt under Obama.,.we have been bankrupt for many years now...it didn't just happen..come on and get real..EVERY GODDAMN NON-PARTISAN ECONOMIST SAYS THAT THERE MUST BE A COMBINATION OF CUTTING SPENDING AND RAISING TAXES...THERE IS NO OTHER WAY AS YOU PUT IT..We are way past the point where only cutting spending will do the trick...
WAKE UP
We reached the debt limit today and your messiah is tapping pension plans to pay bills.
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We reached the debt limit today and your messiah is tapping pension plans to pay bills.
we have reached the debt limit many times in the past...so what?
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stop it with your nonsense....we didn't go bankrupt under Obama.,.we have been bankrupt for many years now...it didn't just happen..come on and get real..EVERY GODDAMN NON-PARTISAN ECONOMIST SAYS THAT THERE MUST BE A COMBINATION OF CUTTING SPENDING AND RAISING TAXES...THERE IS NO OTHER WAY AS YOU PUT IT..We are way past the point where only cutting spending will do the trick...
WAKE UP
DUDE....... it works like this..
We were in a recession under Bush.. but its Obamas fault..
Osama wasnt caught under Bush.. he was caught under Obama.. But its Bushs Credit..
A recession is only supposed to last 3 months
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Amazing - you want to credit obama with getting osama, but not credit him with any bad stuff.
I will give him credit for helping get obl - but also credit him with the inflation, high gas proces, and worsening economy.
ObamaCare - fail
Economy - fail
Inflation / energy prices - fail
Libia - fail
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Amazing - you want to credit obama with getting osama, but not credit him with any bad stuff.
I will give him credit for helping get obl - but also credit him with the inflation, high gas proces, and worsening economy.
ObamaCare - fail
Economy - fail
Inflation / energy prices - fail
Libia - fail
you keep flip flopping.. first you credit him, then you say you take it back.. which one is it..
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Gotta hand it to Trump. He had the entire establishment talking about him. The media was all over him. He forced Obama to release his birth certificate.
He doesn't have Oprah power, but he does have the ability to make people listen.
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Gotta hand it to Trump. He had the entire establishment talking about him. The media was all over him. He forced Obama to release his birth certificate.
He doesn't have Oprah power, but he does have the ability to make people listen.
He also has the ability to embarrass himself and forever tarnish his brand and earning power. lol Complete idiot.
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He also has the ability to embarrass himself and forever tarnish his brand and earning power. lol Complete idiot.
He didn't tarnish his brand and earning power at all. He was a mega wealthy blowhard before this. He still is, except with even better name recognition.
He'll be embarrassing himself all the way to the bank.
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I wouldn't call him a complete idiot. A complete idiot would have squandered the fortune his father left him. Instead he built quite an empire.
His mistake of late was to surround himself with people who are afraid to tell him no.
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I wouldn't call him a complete idiot. A complete idiot would have squandered the fortune his father left him. Instead he built quite an empire.
His mistake of late was to surround himself with people who are afraid to tell him no.
We are talking about his ridiculous pretend run at the presidency, not his entire life. You are not very bright either. :(
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He didn't tarnish his brand and earning power at all. He was a mega wealthy blowhard before this. He still is, except with even better name recognition.
He'll be embarrassing himself all the way to the bank.
You are hopelessly stupid. ::) He has not increased his name recognition, and his brand is greatly diminished, just like the ratings of his reality show.
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You are hopelessly stupid. ::) He has not increased his name recognition, and his brand is greatly diminished, just like the ratings of his reality show.
I have heard a few friends say they will no longer watch his show after this fiasco.
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You are hopelessly stupid. ::) He has not increased his name recognition, and his brand is greatly diminished, just like the ratings of his reality show.
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About the response I expected. ;)
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About the response I expected. ;)
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It just gets better and better. ;D
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We are talking about his ridiculous pretend run at the presidency, not his entire life. You are not very bright either. :(
Well then maybe you should have used the phrase "idiot in this case" instead of complete idiot.
Learn to place nice Benny. You are on very thin ice. Last warning.
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Well then maybe you should have used the phrase "idiot in this case" instead of complete idiot.
Learn to place nice Benny. You are on very thin ice. Last warning.
*YAWN*
King of the double standards. ::) Fuck off.
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*YAWN*
King of the double standards. ::) Fuck off.
Ok. Your are done.
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Awesome interview! ! ! !
http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/on-the-record/transcript/donald-trump-rips-president-obama-debt-deal
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Trump has my vote.
Bachman for VP.
done deal
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Trump is running now?
ROTFLMAO
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Trump is running now?
ROTFLMAO
Says he still might because he says we are facing collapse.
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Says he still might because he says we are facing collapse.
yeah because guys like him aren't paying their fair share of taxes
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Lmfao!
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Trump: Obama 'Takes More Vacations Than Any Human Being I've Ever Seen'
GRETA VAN SUSTEREN, FOX NEWS HOST: I wanted to talk to you about the recent news about Pakistan and China. But first I want to ask you about your tweet. I can't resist. A recent tweet from you, on your Twitter account, says, Barack Obama played golf yesterday, now he heads to a 10-day vacation in Martha's Vineyard, nice work ethic.
DONALD TRUMP: Well, the fact is, he takes more vacations than any human being I've ever seen. They used to complain about George Bush, but I understand he's already exceeded George Bush and we're not even through the year. So he likes vacation.
VAN SUSTEREN: What does -- I mean, obviously, that doesn't sound a -- send a good message if, indeed, the American people think that he likes a, quote, "vacation."
TRUMP: Well, I mean, it sends a bad message. Here we have a country that really is going to hell in a handbasket. Let's not kid ourselves. What's happening to this country is horrible. All over the world, they're talking about it. And we have a president that's constantly -- whether it's Martha's Vineyard or someplace else, constantly on vacation. I mean, all the time he's on vacation! So I think it sends a very, very bad message. We have to work in this country to bring it back.
http://nation.foxnews.com/donald-trump/2011/08/16/trump-obama-takes-more-vacations-any-human-being-ive-ever-seen
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Trump: Obama 'Takes More Vacations Than Any Human Being I've Ever Seen'
GRETA VAN SUSTEREN, FOX NEWS HOST: I wanted to talk to you about the recent news about Pakistan and China. But first I want to ask you about your tweet. I can't resist. A recent tweet from you, on your Twitter account, says, Barack Obama played golf yesterday, now he heads to a 10-day vacation in Martha's Vineyard, nice work ethic.
DONALD TRUMP: Well, the fact is, he takes more vacations than any human being I've ever seen. They used to complain about George Bush, but I understand he's already exceeded George Bush and we're not even through the year. So he likes vacation.
VAN SUSTEREN: What does -- I mean, obviously, that doesn't sound a -- send a good message if, indeed, the American people think that he likes a, quote, "vacation."
TRUMP: Well, I mean, it sends a bad message. Here we have a country that really is going to hell in a handbasket. Let's not kid ourselves. What's happening to this country is horrible. All over the world, they're talking about it. And we have a president that's constantly -- whether it's Martha's Vineyard or someplace else, constantly on vacation. I mean, all the time he's on vacation! So I think it sends a very, very bad message. We have to work in this country to bring it back.
http://nation.foxnews.com/donald-trump/2011/08/16/trump-obama-takes-more-vacations-any-human-being-ive-ever-seen
yeah because this is objective and this guy dosent have an agenda..
weak
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Watch the interview.
Tell me one thin g you disagree with.
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Trump: "Our President Is Grossly Incompetent"
Donald Trump: "Our president is grossly incompetent. He doesn't know what he's doing. The world is laughing at us. It's very, very sad."
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/08/18/trump_our_president_is_grossly_incompetent.html
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Trump is the new Al Sharpton, Al sharton is the old 3333, and the new 33333 is a liberal supporting Michelle Bachmann, a fraud.
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http://politics.blogs.foxnews.com/2011/11/21/new-book-trumps-finances-revealed-doesnt-rule-out-2012-run
He still might do it.
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Let's hope he gets back in and forces all the other candidates to talk about Obama's birth certificate
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http://politics.blogs.foxnews.com/2011/11/21/new-book-trumps-finances-revealed-doesnt-rule-out-2012-run
He still might do it.
no, he misses being in the news and floating this little gem (long after its too late to run for anything but dog catcher) to try to matter in 2012.
is he selling another book? lmao
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Trump: Obama Inconsiderate To Visit NYC During Tree Lighting
Donald Trump sounds off on the president’s decision to have a fundraiser the same day same day as the Rockefeller Center Christmas Tree lighting. (Note: Fast forward the video to the 2:50 mark.)
"I think it is very inconsiderate of the President to come into New York and have a fundraiser during Christmas tree lighting. People -- thousands and thousands of people come to see the lighting. They're not be able to move, there is going to be total gridlock, streets are going to be closed because the President is in town," Donald Trump told FOX Business. "I think it is a very, very nasty move by the president, and very inconsiderate."
RELATED: Gridlock Alert: Obama Fundraiser Coincides With NYC Tree Lighting
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Trump Says He Will Run for President
NewsMax ^ | 3 January 2011 | Ronald Kessler
Billionaire Donald Trump is telling friends he has decided he will definitely run for president as a Republican.
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The only thing I hate about election season is that we have to go through the agony of hearing about how Trump wants to run for president when we al know he just wants publicity for his various businesses....However I would be so happy if he runs...just imagine the limitless gaffes...it would be awesome :D
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BUMP :D
Trump Says He Will Run for President
NewsMax ^ | 3 January 2011 | Ronald Kessler
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Billionaire Donald Trump is telling friends he has decided he will definitely run for president as a Republican.
Trump will make the announcement when his NBC show "The Apprentice" finishes the season in the spring, he is confiding. He has been soliciting recommendations on political advisers, focusing initially on the Iowa caucus and New Hampshire primary. Trump declined to comment.
... But Trump has told friends he believes Obama is a "disaster." An advocate of a strong national security, he becomes livid when he talks about the decline of America compared with other countries like China.
“I look at the jobs numbers, and I see what’s going on in China, where it’s booming," Trump said on Fox News. "You know why it’s booming? Because they’re making all our products.They’re taking all our jobs. We are rebuilding China, and our country is going to hell.”
(Excerpt) Read more at newsmax.com ...
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I would easily vote for Trump over Obama.
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Trump Says He Will Run for President
NewsMax ^ | 3 January 2011 | Ronald Kessler
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Billionaire Donald Trump is telling friends he has decided he will definitely run for president as a Republican.
Trump will make the announcement when his NBC show "The Apprentice" finishes the season in the spring, he is confiding. He has been soliciting recommendations on political advisers, focusing initially on the Iowa caucus and New Hampshire primary. Trump declined to comment.
... But Trump has told friends he believes Obama is a "disaster." An advocate of a strong national security, he becomes livid when he talks about the decline of America compared with other countries like China.
“I look at the jobs numbers, and I see what’s going on in China, where it’s booming," Trump said on Fox News. "You know why it’s booming? Because they’re making all our products.They’re taking all our jobs. We are rebuilding China, and our country is going to hell.”
(Excerpt) Read more at newsmax.com ...
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I would easily vote for Trump over Obama.
Revenge is a dish served COLD.
FU you dirty kenyan fagget slut chooming communist socialist failure obama!
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*yawn*
The blowhard pretends he might run every four years. This shit has been going on since the mid 90's. It helps keep his name out there and maintains his celebrity status.
How did it all work out for you? O-TWINK and her illiterate fat wife/husband Moochelle are left stammering with nothing to say.
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Calling Benny and 240....anyone?
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Watched the entire interview with O'Reilly. Trump brings some good things to the table. The straight talk, hard ball with foreign countries, and focus on fixing economic problems are good. I still don't think he's polished enough to be president. He also comes across as an impulsive hothead. Not the kind of person you want in control of our military and nuclear arsenal.
I think he could still play an important role in debates and in the national discussion by helping Republicans and Democrats focus on improving the country.
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these past comments are priceless..
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Calling Benny and 240....anyone?
240 is still here... his balls are tucked in and he has became several gimicks on here...
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240 is still here... his balls are tucked in and he has became several gimicks on here...
240 is gone. Benny B though.....he still comes around.
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How did it all work out for you? O-TWINK and her illiterate fat wife/husband Moochelle are left stammering with nothing to say.
Nice call, Chris!!
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