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Title: Buying my first AR style rifle
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on September 26, 2017, 07:00:34 AM
So I really like M&P (no homo).

Would it be a bad idea to buy their M&P 15 rifle?

 ???
Title: Re: Buying my first AR style rifle
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on September 26, 2017, 07:08:17 AM
Apple AR is available on Iphone 8 and X.  Won't work on older phones.
Title: Re: Buying my first AR style rifle
Post by: Powerlift66 on September 26, 2017, 07:19:36 AM
I  have one, really enjoy it. I read reviews in the price range I was looking at and went with S&W.
(Plus the M&P pistol I have I really enjoy).

Some people are "one make" gun owners, not the case with me, plenty of good stuff out there.
I have:

2 - Glocks
1 - Taurus
2 - S&W's
1 - SCCY
1 - Jennings

Makes the range more fun when you have a few options...
Title: Re: Buying my first AR style rifle
Post by: Mr Anabolic on September 26, 2017, 07:19:56 AM
So I really like M&P (no homo).

Would it be a bad idea to buy their M&P 15 rifle?

 ???

Average price for an MP with optics is anywhere from $900-1200.  Buy a bare-bones AR and build it yourself... much cheaper that way.  A friend of mine has his FFL and buys lower on the cheap.  He built me an AR for about $700, including a decent scope.  Colt ARs are reliable and have higher resale value, but you'll pay a hefty premium for the name.  
Title: Re: Buying my first AR style rifle
Post by: Twaddle on September 26, 2017, 07:31:45 AM
Nothing wrong with an M&P Sport II 556.  You can get one shipped to your FFL for around 450 bucks.  You will not be able to build a comparable quality AR15 for that price.  Check gunbroker, there are plenty of them out there, and they're at an all time low on pricing.

http://www.gunbroker.com/item/699062314
Title: Re: Buying my first AR style rifle
Post by: Mr Anabolic on September 26, 2017, 07:36:47 AM
Nothing wrong with an M&P Sport II 556.  You can get one shipped to your FFL for around 450 bucks.  You will not be able to build a comparable quality AR15 for that price.  Check gunbroker, there are plenty of them out there, and they're at an all time low on pricing.

http://www.gunbroker.com/item/699062314

Wow, that's cheap.  Didn't realize the price had come down so much.  Thanks Trump.
Title: Re: Buying my first AR style rifle
Post by: Twaddle on September 26, 2017, 07:49:01 AM
Wow, that's cheap.  Didn't realize the price had come down so much.  Thanks Trump.

Yep, I bought my dad an M&P Sport II for X-mas last year.  I paid 600 bucks at the time, and that was the cheapest I could find.  Firearm prices are bottoming out right now, because the market has been absolutely flooded.  The only thing that is really holding value right now are collector items. 

Ammo is also at an all time low for the last 10 years.  Finally, prices are getting back to pre-Obama era.
Title: Re: Buying my first AR style rifle
Post by: Pray_4_War on September 26, 2017, 08:03:09 AM
I can't say anything about the M&P other than the fact that it's cheap and Jason Blaha has one.  lol.

I'm a Colt fanboy myself.  The Colt 6920 is a fine weapon.
Title: Re: Buying my first AR style rifle
Post by: milone79 on September 26, 2017, 08:29:37 AM
I like my Windham Weaponry AR (old Bushmaster factory and half the original staff)..good quality, price etc....put I lust after a Daniel Defense with all the bells and whistles on it!!
Title: Re: Buying my first AR style rifle
Post by: headhuntersix on September 26, 2017, 08:36:50 AM
If you know what you're doing and willing to pick through different sites...black friday through cyber monday is the absolute best time to build a weapon.
Title: Re: Buying my first AR style rifle
Post by: Powerlift66 on September 26, 2017, 08:49:38 AM
I like my Windham Weaponry AR (old Bushmaster factory and half the original staff)..good quality, price etc....put I lust after a Daniel Defense with all the bells and whistles on it!!


My bro-inlaw has one of those, very nice AR... Yeah, I only paid mid-500's for mine (M&P), not big money at all...
Title: Re: Buying my first AR style rifle
Post by: ESFitness on September 26, 2017, 08:53:37 AM
Nothing wrong with an M&P Sport II 556.  You can get one shipped to your FFL for around 450 bucks.  You will not be able to build a comparable quality AR15 for that price.  Check gunbroker, there are plenty of them out there, and they're at an all time low on pricing.

http://www.gunbroker.com/item/699062314

Cheaperthandirt.com as well

You can spend as little as 400-500 or as much as 2000 and if its your first, you won't notice much difference
Title: Re: Buying my first AR style rifle
Post by: gym**rat on September 26, 2017, 09:24:19 AM
I have a Stag Arms AR and love it.
Title: Re: Buying my first AR style rifle
Post by: ESFitness on September 26, 2017, 09:26:51 AM
Give him a month with it an he'll be asking about 458 SOCOM vs. .50 Beo uppers lol
Title: Re: Buying my first AR style rifle
Post by: chaos on September 26, 2017, 09:33:14 AM
So I really like M&P (no homo).

Would it be a bad idea to buy their M&P 15 rifle?

 ???
Have a few thousand rounds through mine, fun to shoot and pretty accurate with a midprice optic. 
Title: Re: Buying my first AR style rifle
Post by: RJ DRIVER on September 26, 2017, 09:44:51 AM
Can't go wrong with an m&p. There are so many good ar15 makes out
there it becomes very hard to narrow down. 
Title: Re: Buying my first AR style rifle
Post by: calfzilla on September 26, 2017, 04:33:56 PM
You don't need a gun. Just train up on judo and have 911 handy. Europeans do just fine without guns.
Title: Re: Buying my first AR style rifle
Post by: Twaddle on September 26, 2017, 04:52:17 PM
You don't need a gun. Just train up on judo and have 911 handy. Europeans do just fine without guns.

How do you guys hunt?  With Judo?   ???
Title: Re: Buying my first AR style rifle
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 26, 2017, 04:55:00 PM
So I really like M&P (no homo).

Would it be a bad idea to buy their M&P 15 rifle?

 ???

Buy once , Cry Once

http://www.larue.com/

Title: Re: Buying my first AR style rifle
Post by: _aj_ on September 27, 2017, 04:32:35 PM
Big fan of Spikes.

https://www.spikestactical.com/
Title: Re: Buying my first AR style rifle
Post by: delta9mda on September 27, 2017, 05:10:50 PM
Don't cheap out buy a colt 6920.
Title: Re: Buying my first AR style rifle
Post by: Little-rich on September 27, 2017, 05:43:11 PM
Daniel Defense DD4 V11. Paid about $1600
Title: Re: Buying my first AR style rifle
Post by: chaos on September 27, 2017, 06:15:10 PM
Big fan of Spikes.

https://www.spikestactical.com/
I might have picked up a couple of those awhile back.
Nice guns.
 Might have Picked up a century arms c39v2 awhile back also, some people bag on them, but mine has been solid as hell and fun to shoot.....if I had one.
Title: Re: Buying my first AR style rifle
Post by: calfzilla on September 27, 2017, 06:29:57 PM
And why do you guys need these?  ::)
Title: Re: Buying my first AR style rifle
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 27, 2017, 06:31:41 PM
And why do you guys need these?  ::)

To kill people , if the need arises duh
Title: Re: Buying my first AR style rifle
Post by: delta9mda on September 27, 2017, 06:43:36 PM
And why do you guys need these?  ::)
No need. Want
Title: Re: Buying my first AR style rifle
Post by: chaos on September 27, 2017, 07:04:33 PM
And why do you guys need these?  ::)
Need?
Title: Re: Buying my first AR style rifle
Post by: Pray_4_War on September 28, 2017, 12:49:44 AM
You don't need a gun. Just train up on judo and have 911 handy. Europeans do just fine without guns.

Yeah, Europe looks pretty awesome right about now.  Great example.

911 can't help you when shit goes down.  Cops come afterwards to outline the dead bodies in chalk and attempt to figure out what happened.

And why do you guys need these?  ::)

First of all, nobody really "needs" anything other than oxygen, shelter, water and food.  How much shit do you own that you don't really need?

Secondly, in America we aren't required to need something in order to own it.  Wanting something is a valid enough.

Third, they do serve several functions like recreational shooting, hunting, home defense and most important they can be a deterrent against government tyranny.

Lastly, go fuck yourself.
Title: Re: Buying my first AR style rifle
Post by: calfzilla on September 28, 2017, 01:16:55 AM
Yeah, Europe looks pretty awesome right about now.  Great example.

911 can't help you when shit goes down.  Cops come afterwards to outline the dead bodies in chalk and attempt to figure out what happened.

First of all, nobody really "needs" anything other than oxygen, shelter, water and food.  How much shit do you own that you don't really need?

Secondly, in America we aren't required to need something in order to own it.  Wanting something is a valid enough.

Third, they do serve several functions like recreational shooting, hunting, home defense and most important they can be a deterrent against government tyranny.

Lastly, go fuck yourself.

I was just trolling  ;D

I'm pro gun and pro second amendment. I have 2 m&p pistols and a mossberg 12ga.

How do those anti gun libfags live with themselves?
Title: Re: Buying my first AR style rifle
Post by: Pray_4_War on September 28, 2017, 01:21:05 AM
I was just trolling  ;D

I'm pro gun and pro second amendment. I have 2 m&p pistols and a mossberg 12ga.

How do those anti gun libfags live with themselves?

Then please accept my sincere apology.  Sometimes it can be hard to decipher the intentions of an expert troll.  I rescind my previous insult.

I understand that some people don't like or understand guns.  I just wish they wouldn't mock and coerce the rest of us into giving ours up.
Title: Re: Buying my first AR style rifle
Post by: calfzilla on September 28, 2017, 01:26:53 AM
Then please accept my sincere apology.  Sometimes it can be hard to decipher the intentions of an expert troll.  I rescind my previous insult.

I understand that some people don't like or understand guns.  I just wish they wouldn't mock and coerce the rest of us into giving ours up.

I accept your apology, no homo.


I enjoy watching videos by nutnfancy, specifically the ones he made a few years back on gun rights. Does a good job explaining why they are important and gives good insight into the left and how they think. He calls them "the protectionists".
Title: Re: Buying my first AR style rifle
Post by: Pray_4_War on September 28, 2017, 01:37:41 AM
I accept your apology, no homo.


I enjoy watching videos by nutnfancy, specifically the ones he made a few years back on gun rights. Does a good job explaining why they are important and gives good insight into the left and how they think. He calls them "the protectionists".

He makes good videos, I like him.  I've been watching a lot of videos by Garand Thumb these days.  Not exactly the same as nutnfancy but valuable content from a guy with some training.
Title: Re: Buying my first AR style rifle
Post by: ESFitness on September 28, 2017, 02:33:47 AM
Instead of asking here... Plethora of info to be found on YouTube. Hickok45 is my favorite, and should be your favorite too, as well as all 14 members of this forum.

Stay the fuck away from that sissy "YankeeMarshall" or whatever that piece of schitt's name is on there. Dude goes in the DoNotClick file along with whatever the fuck Jason Blaha channel is called over there
Title: Re: Buying my first AR style rifle
Post by: _aj_ on September 28, 2017, 03:05:05 AM
He makes good videos, I like him.  I've been watching a lot of videos by Garand Thumb these days.  Not exactly the same as nutnfancy but valuable content from a guy with some training.

Never seen Garand Thumb, but as a guy that’s put many rounds downrange with my WWII Garand, I appreciate the name a lot. That bolt has a bite!
Title: Re: Buying my first AR style rifle
Post by: IRON CROSS on September 28, 2017, 03:34:43 AM
I  have one, really enjoy it. I read reviews in the price range I was looking at and went with S&W.
(Plus the M&P pistol I have I really enjoy).

Some people are "one make" gun owners, not the case with me, plenty of good stuff out there.
I have:

2 - Glocks
1 - Taurus
2 - S&W's
1 - SCCY
1 - Jennings

Makes the range more fun when you have a few options...

I am mega jealous ,  >:(
Title: Re: Buying my first AR style rifle
Post by: Pray_4_War on September 28, 2017, 03:37:44 AM
Never seen Garand Thumb, but as a guy that’s put many rounds downrange with my WWII Garand, I appreciate the name a lot. That bolt has a bite!

Dangerous, lol.  You gotta love that "ping" sound of the clip getting ejected too.
Title: Re: Buying my first AR style rifle
Post by: Simple Simon on September 28, 2017, 03:39:11 AM
Dangerous, lol.  You gotta love that "ping" sound of the clip getting ejected too.
yes its similar to the noise a windpipe makes when you yank a scarf around it...
Title: Re: Buying my first AR style rifle
Post by: calfzilla on September 28, 2017, 11:26:45 AM
Instead of asking here... Plethora of info to be found on YouTube. Hickok45 is my favorite, and should be your favorite too, as well as all 14 members of this forum.

Stay the fuck away from that sissy "YankeeMarshall" or whatever that piece of schitt's name is on there. Dude goes in the DoNotClick file along with whatever the fuck Jason Blaha channel is called over there

Yes Hickok is my favorite gun youtuber. I also agree about yankee Marshall, the dude even lives near me but I'm just not a fan of his videos.
Title: Re: Buying my first AR style rifle
Post by: Ted SuperSet on September 28, 2017, 11:30:04 AM
Piew piew piew!!!
Title: Re: Buying my first AR style rifle
Post by: mazrim on September 28, 2017, 01:51:50 PM
Savage Recon. Good value for the money.
Title: Re: Buying my first AR style rifle
Post by: Simple Simon on September 28, 2017, 02:03:28 PM
Piew piew piew!!!

I have a .22 air rifle.

I bought it to shoot rabbits, I went and got a rabbit in the crosshairs, and thought, fuck this, why would I want to kill this animal just going about its business, I put the gun away and went home, its still in the wardrobe.
Title: Re: Buying my first AR style rifle
Post by: chaos on September 28, 2017, 06:35:11 PM
I have a .22 air rifle.

I bought it to shoot rabbits, I went and got a rabbit in the crosshairs, and thought, fuck this, why would I want to kill this animal just going about its business, I put the gun away and went home, its still in the wardrobe.
Protein?
Title: Re: Buying my first AR style rifle
Post by: oldtimer1 on September 29, 2017, 05:18:46 AM
My carbine. Browning BLR in .243 Winchester. More powerful than an AR with just about no recoil and flat shooting.
Title: Re: Buying my first AR style rifle
Post by: Simple Simon on September 29, 2017, 05:30:04 AM
My carbine. Browning BLR in .243 Winchester. More powerful than an AR with just about no recoil and flat shooting.
what do you shoot with it?
Title: Re: Buying my first AR style rifle
Post by: Twaddle on September 29, 2017, 05:33:03 AM
My carbine. Browning BLR in .243 Winchester. More powerful than an AR with just about no recoil and flat shooting.

Beautiful!  I love classic lever actions.   :)
Title: Re: Buying my first AR style rifle
Post by: ESFitness on September 29, 2017, 06:50:31 AM
My carbine. Browning BLR in .243 Winchester. More powerful than an AR with just about no recoil and flat shooting.

More powerful than an AR? You do realize you can get an AR chambered in 458 Socom or 50 Beowulf right? Just because it's an AR doesn't mean it has to be 223/556
Title: Re: Buying my first AR style rifle
Post by: Simple Simon on September 29, 2017, 09:10:01 AM
More powerful than an AR? You do realize you can get an AR chambered in 458 Socom or 50 Beowulf right? Just because it's an AR doesn't mean it has to be 223/556

stop talking about something you cannot by law own...
Title: Re: Buying my first AR style rifle
Post by: oldtimer1 on September 29, 2017, 11:08:24 AM
More powerful than an AR? You do realize you can get an AR chambered in 458 Socom or 50 Beowulf right? Just because it's an AR doesn't mean it has to be 223/556

99% of the AR platform is chambered for the .223.  I know there are wild cat chamberings.
Title: Re: Buying my first AR style rifle
Post by: milone79 on September 29, 2017, 11:17:59 AM
Yeah, Europe looks pretty awesome right about now.  Great example.

911 can't help you when shit goes down.  Cops come afterwards to outline the dead bodies in chalk and attempt to figure out what happened.

First of all, nobody really "needs" anything other than oxygen, shelter, water and food.  How much shit do you own that you don't really need?

Secondly, in America we aren't required to need something in order to own it.  Wanting something is a valid enough.

Third, they do serve several functions like recreational shooting, hunting, home defense and most important they can be a deterrent against government tyranny.

Lastly, go fuck yourself.


THIS!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Buying my first AR style rifle
Post by: delta9mda on September 29, 2017, 11:29:08 AM
stop talking about something you cannot by law own...

You can own those calibers all day long wtf
Title: Re: Buying my first AR style rifle
Post by: calfzilla on September 29, 2017, 11:35:47 AM
You can own those calibers all day long wtf

Not a convicted felon
Title: Re: Buying my first AR style rifle
Post by: ESFitness on September 29, 2017, 11:50:42 AM
stop talking about something you cannot by law own...

Again, its illegal to jay-walk too, isnt it? Keep showing us all how mentally ill You are.
Title: Re: Buying my first AR style rifle
Post by: ESFitness on September 29, 2017, 11:53:51 AM
99% of the AR platform is chambered for the .223.  I know there are wild cat chamberings.

Those arnt even wild cats. Stop by a magazine rack at the store and you'll see as many, if not more, ads for 1
ARs in 6.5, 308, etc.. Than you will for 223/556
Title: Re: Buying my first AR style rifle
Post by: oldtimer1 on September 29, 2017, 11:57:49 AM
I stick by my statement. 99% of all AR's made are in .223.
Title: Re: Buying my first AR style rifle
Post by: Simple Simon on September 29, 2017, 11:58:16 AM
Again, its illegal to jay-walk too, isnt it? Keep showing us all how mentally ill You are.

you have an illegal gun, jeez mate, bathtub brews driving while banned and carrying a gun.

Good luck when you get pulled over.
Title: Re: Buying my first AR style rifle
Post by: ESFitness on September 29, 2017, 11:59:43 AM
And most guys picking up an AR are using it for the range or home defense so a 243 comparrison isn't a consideration. Plus the availability of parts for ARs is enormous with little need for gunsmithing.

Not to mention 20-30rd (or 50-100) capacity.
Title: Re: Buying my first AR style rifle
Post by: calfzilla on September 29, 2017, 12:00:28 PM
The punishment for a convicted felon in possession is much more severe than for jaywalking
Title: Re: Buying my first AR style rifle
Post by: ESFitness on September 29, 2017, 12:03:58 PM
you have an illegal gun, jeez mate, bathtub brews driving while banned and carrying a gun.

Good luck when you get pulled over.

Is that what I said? My god. How can anybody make it to 52 being as dense as you?

Also illegal to text and drive. Also illegal to throw used syringes in the trash. Also illegal to not disclose cash income or gambling winnings.
Title: Re: Buying my first AR style rifle
Post by: ESFitness on September 29, 2017, 12:04:41 PM
The punishment for a convicted felon in possession is much more severe than for jaywalking

You're missing the point.

He believes because something is illegal that there's suddenly becomes some invisible force field that prevents somebody from doing it.
Title: Re: Buying my first AR style rifle
Post by: calfzilla on September 29, 2017, 12:06:57 PM
You're missing the point.

He believes because something is illegal that there's suddenly becomes some invisible force field that prevents somebody from doing it.

Yes I get it, but one must consider the scale of the violation. I guess it's up to the individual if the risk is worth the potential punishment.
Title: Re: Buying my first AR style rifle
Post by: Simple Simon on September 29, 2017, 12:08:07 PM
Is that what I said? My god. How can anybody make it to 52 being as dense as you?

Also illegal to text and drive. Also illegal to throw used syringes in the trash. Also illegal to not disclose cash income or gambling winnings.

Im aware of all that you fucking moron, going 33 mph is an offence in the UK, most people do it as the consequences are not that severe
Carrying an unlicensed gun in the UK is illegal, only a fucking moron would do it as you are likely to get at least 10 years in prison.


Wake the fuck up you stupid twat.
Title: Re: Buying my first AR style rifle
Post by: ESFitness on September 29, 2017, 12:16:49 PM
Im aware of all that you fucking moron, going 33 mph is an offence in the UK, most people do it as the consequences are not that severe
Carrying an unlicensed gun in the UK is illegal, only a fucking moron would do it as you are likely to get at least 10 years in prison.


Wake the fuck up you stupid twat.

You are now. Seems that was a foreign concept to you earlier
Title: Re: Buying my first AR style rifle
Post by: Simple Simon on September 29, 2017, 12:19:40 PM
You are now. Seems that was a foreign concept to you earlier

I didnt think you would be so dumb to assume that another human being who owns your mind wouldn't be aware of the obviousness of the subject.
Title: Re: Buying my first AR style rifle
Post by: Ted SuperSet on September 29, 2017, 01:13:14 PM
I have a .22 air rifle.

I bought it to shoot rabbits, I went and got a rabbit in the crosshairs, and thought, fuck this, why would I want to kill this animal just going about its business, I put the gun away and went home, its still in the wardrobe.

Good man.
But is it even possible to kill a rabbit with an air rifle / bbgun?
Title: Re: Buying my first AR style rifle
Post by: Simple Simon on September 29, 2017, 01:17:06 PM
Good man.
But is it even possible to kill a rabbit with an air rifle / bbgun?

of course, head shots


c.unts trick though...
Title: Re: Buying my first AR style rifle
Post by: Ted SuperSet on September 29, 2017, 01:24:23 PM
Is that what I said? My god. How can anybody make it to 52 being as dense as you?

Also illegal to text and drive. Also illegal to throw used syringes in the trash. Also illegal to not disclose cash income or gambling winnings.

Any idea what will happen if you get caught with a gun in Europe? If they know you have one a special force police squat wil brake down your door in the middle of the night to come and get you. Next step is years of prison time. It aint like "piew piew" USA where every mongol has a pair of guns lying around that are capable of killing 25 people in under 2 minutes.
Title: Re: Buying my first AR style rifle
Post by: Ted SuperSet on September 29, 2017, 02:17:36 PM
of course, head shots


c.unts trick though...

Ok so its.def possible.
Never unddrstood the fun of it.
Title: Re: Buying my first AR style rifle
Post by: delta9mda on September 29, 2017, 03:25:04 PM
Not a convicted felon

Well of course that's not caliber dependant
Title: Re: Buying my first AR style rifle
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on September 29, 2017, 03:30:14 PM
I can't imagine living in a country where grown men cannot bear arms. I mean it's outrageous enough that we outlawed full auto but I guess that was just a knee jerk reaction from the 1930's gangster era or something.
Title: Re: Buying my first AR style rifle
Post by: chaos on September 29, 2017, 06:07:51 PM
I stick by my statement. 99% of all AR's made are in .223/5.56.
Fixed. I agree
Title: Re: Buying my first AR style rifle
Post by: chaos on September 29, 2017, 06:11:35 PM
Those arnt even wild cats. Stop by a magazine rack at the store and you'll see as many, if not more, ads for 1
ARs in 6.5, 308, etc.. Than you will for 223/556
Not even close, especially not in CA. The 6.5 is almost unheard of out here, the .308/7.62x51 is called the AR10, the socom .458 is another rare find.
LOL @ more common than .223/5.56.
Title: Re: Buying my first AR style rifle
Post by: ESFitness on September 29, 2017, 06:59:17 PM
Not even close, especially not in CA. The 6.5 is almost unheard of out here, the .308/7.62x51 is called the AR10, the socom .458 is another rare find.
LOL @ more common than .223/5.56.

Is that what I said? Are magazine ads different here in California than other places in the nation?
Title: Re: Buying my first AR style rifle
Post by: chaos on September 29, 2017, 07:31:48 PM
Is that what I said? Are magazine ads different here in California than other places in the nation?
Yes. If you had any idea about CA gun laws you would know this. Google gunmageddon. Newsom and Brown are wiping their asses with the 2nd amendment.
Title: Re: Buying my first AR style rifle
Post by: ESFitness on September 29, 2017, 07:34:00 PM
Yes. If you had any idea about CA gun laws you would know this. Google gunmageddon. Newsom and Brown are wiping their asses with the 2nd amendment.

Uhh... Still, wtf does that have anything to do with what I said?