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Title: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Richard2004 on August 14, 2005, 03:50:21 PM
If you know anything about the lifestyle, or "sport", of bodybuilding you know that the "sport" has been tainted with the use of all types of bodybuilding drugs such as androgenic/anabolic steroids, growth hormone, amphetamines, diuretics, insulin, thyroid, etc., all combined into monstrous drug stacks!  Why, even some crazed male bodybuilders inject synthol oil in their bodies to bloat up their muscles!??

These illegal drug-using, and bloated, male chemical monsters, and female “she-he’s”, represent the absolute antithesis of the healthy lifestyle that the pioneers of bodybuilding promoted!!  Sadly, bodybuilding is now ridiculed by the general public, and shunned by the major media (except for the usual negative press when yet another bodybuilder is arrested for selling illegal bodybuilding drugs).

In all of this absolute insanity, believe it or not, there are men and women who actually try to build their bodies through weight-training, NATURALLY, and try to live a healthy, DRUG-FREE, bodybuilding lifestyle?!! 

One such ALL-NATURAL female bodybuilder is JODI LEIGH MILLER!  Jodi has successfully competed in female fitness, figure, and bodybuilding competition.  In addition, Jodi has been an outstanding competitive powerlifter who, at a bodyweight of 110 lbs., and a height of 4’-11’’, squatted and deadlifted 2-1/2 times her bodyweight!!

To all of you girls and women out there reading this, Jodi is an excellent role model of what you can expect from intelligent progressive weight-training NATURALLY, combined with intelligent dieting, ALONE!!

An old Chinese proverb says that a picture is worth 1000 words!   So, here are “20,000 words” to describe the remarkable, beautiful, ALL-NATURAL, VERY FEMININE, body Jodi has developed through intelligent weight-training and dieting ALONE!   

(http://www.wpw.net/wpwclubs/0-intros/jmiller/intro/images/jm1.030s.jpg)

(http://www.wpw.net/wpwclubs/0-intros/jmiller/club01/images/jm1.004b.jpg)

(http://www.wpw.net/wpwclubs/0-intros/jmiller_2/intro/images/jm.011s.jpg)

(http://www.wpw.net/wpwclubs/0-intros/jmiller_2/club01/images/jm.006b.jpg)

(http://www.wpw.net/wpwclubs/0-intros/jmiller514/intro/images/jm2.023s.jpg)

(http://www.wpw.net/wpwclubs/0-intros/jmiller514/club01/images/jm1.002b.jpg)

(http://www.wpw.net/wpwclubs/0-intros/jmiller514/club02/images/jm2.022b.jpg)

(http://www.wpw.net/wpwclubs/0-intros/jmiller_3/intro/images/jm.017s.jpg)

(http://www.wpw.net/wpwclubs/0-intros/jmiller_3/club01/images/jm.015b.jpg)

(http://www.wpw.net/wpwclubs/0-intros/jmiller552/intro/images/jm3.013s.jpg)

(http://www.wpw.net/wpwclubs/0-intros/jmiller552/club01/images/jm1.010b.jpg)

(http://www.wpw.net/wpwclubs/0-intros/jmiller552/club03/images/jm3.029b.jpg)

(http://raymartin.net/rmclubs/0-intros/jmiller227/club01/images/jm.004b.jpg)

(http://www.strength-sports.org/female-bodybuilders/jodi-leigh-miller/jodi-leigh-miller-4.jpg)

(http://jodileigh.com/images/gallery/nafpliotis_f1/images/nafp1102h.jpg)

(http://jodileigh.com/images/gallery/nafpliotis_f1/images/nafp1102e.jpg)

(http://jodileigh.com/images/gallery/bowie_c2/images/P9220141.jpg)

(http://jodileigh.com/images/gallery/bowie_c2/images/P9220039.jpg)

(http://www.jodileigh.com/images/gallery/hwang_s1/images/18099.jpg)

(http://jodileigh.com/images/gallery/bowie_f2/images/P6020033.jpg)




Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: 240 or bust on August 14, 2005, 03:55:26 PM
[Schmoe]

Richard2004

[/Schmoe]
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Hedgehog on August 14, 2005, 04:03:06 PM
Good post Richard.

In fact... Great post.

Another great bodybuilding physique that comes to mind, is Rhonda Dethlef's (INSOMNIA). INSOMNIA's got a great physique. Big inspiration to me.

YIP
Zack
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on August 14, 2005, 04:09:36 PM
She looks great !!  kudos to her for not going the extremely dumb-ass implant route either and she looks really cute with short hair , not many chicks can pull that off.

She is the epitome of what female-bodybuilding really is , she is the sport , not what you've come to accept as the sport.

Jodi you should be very proud of yourself you may never reach the " pinnacle " ( whatever that is ) of your sport , but you have selfrespect , health and integrity which is worth more than any trophy.
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Sir William Idol on August 14, 2005, 04:33:17 PM
schmoeness indeed...

whenever i see mower's face i assume that he sounds exactly like Eric the Midget from Howard Stern.  can anyone confirm?
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on August 14, 2005, 04:35:20 PM
schmoeness indeed...

whenever i see mower's face i assume that he sounds exactly like Eric the Midget from Howard Stern.  can anyone confirm?

" Hello Howard , this is Eric The Actor "
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: man from oz on August 14, 2005, 04:38:06 PM
that is how i want my wife to look
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Hedgehog on August 14, 2005, 04:42:34 PM
She looks great !!  kudos to her for not going the extremely dumb-ass implant route either and she looks really cute with short hair , not many chicks can pull that off.

She is the epitome of what female-bodybuilding really is , she is the sport , not what you've come to accept as the sport.

Jodi you should be very proud of yourself you may never reach the " pinnacle " ( whatever that is ) of your sport , but you have selfrespect , health and integrity which is worth more than any trophy.

Jodels couldn't get a better compliment. And I cannot but agree ND. Very well put.

She has the look that actually is Mens Sana in Corpore Sano. Really Sano.

No cor bovinum or any other bodybuilding diseases gonna happen on this little feisty athlete either.

YIP
Zack
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: DIVISION on August 14, 2005, 04:54:28 PM
Insert McFarland here...

That a lowblow, bro.....

Why the haterism?   ???

Everyone makes mistakes.








DIV
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Jodi on August 14, 2005, 05:18:38 PM
Better in my ass than in yours, 240, huh?

I don't think this thread was meant to go that route.  Thank you very much, Richard.  I have a very diverse background of lifting and training...15 years' worth.  And I'm three weeks away from competing in the FVF Vancouver/Femsport show over Labor Day weekend.  I can't wait to do a few curls, run an obstacle course again, and flex these biceps.  Wearing heels and the glittery suits is fun, but I want to show off a little what these muscles can do when given half the chance.

I had a powerlifting trainer by the name of Dennis who said to me one evening, "Don't ever cross the line.  Once you cross it, you can never go back."  Those words and his teachings have kept me strong when whispers of, "a little bit of anavar won't hurt you," and "an IU of growth will do you a world of good," floated into my ears.  This year, I had an intense need to show other girls what could be done naturally.

The pictures you displayed, Richard, range from the years 2001 to 2003.  I first stepped onto the NPC stage in 2001.  I have done 15 shows in the NPC, nine of which have been at the national level.  Three of those have rendered me top five, and all amateur and regional level shows have seen me in the top five.  I am not a pro.  I may never become a pro.  What I am is a girl with a true love of iron, with a desire to sculpt my body to my standards, with a realization that life does exist beyond the stage and the judge's decisions (though some of those decisions have been some bitter pills to swallow...I wouldn't be human if I didn't admit that).

I am one of many natural athletes in the NPC.  And here's what I brought to Vegas this year to earn fourth place:

(http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/big/2005usa_fig49.jpg)

Hate all you want, 240.  As you can see, I turn hate into strength.
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Jodi on August 14, 2005, 05:23:30 PM
To show a difference in the stage back shot from 2001 in my second figure show ever and the stage back shot from this year in my 14th figure show, the Junior Nationals, where I placed 11th.

(http://www.hardfitness.com/competitions/chicagojrnats2005/npcfigure/figurea/jodimiller/onepiece/images/DSC_1106.jpg)
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: 240 or bust on August 14, 2005, 05:29:19 PM
Touche!

You're hot _and_ witty. Keep up the good work.
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Jodi on August 14, 2005, 05:33:54 PM
All in good fun, right, 240?
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Hedgehog on August 14, 2005, 05:36:26 PM
This thread was started by Richard as a discussion regarding what he considers an ideal when it comes to female bodybuilding.

240, if you have an urge to discuss that McFarland and Jodi were a couple, and that they probably did more than held hands :o, please do so elsewhere.

Regarding the topic and the athlete in question (Jodels): I think one thing that separates her from a lot of others, are how extremely tight she seems to get competition time. I got a short friend with the same kind of pale complexion, also extremely low BF%. The difference is that he's built like a tank. Could probably win a pro card natural, given enough time to train. Never seen anything like it. Weighs 175 lbs and with abs @ 5'3''...

My guess is Jodel's just very low fat from the start.

YIP
Zack
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Mufasa on August 14, 2005, 05:38:57 PM
Yep...Jodi is one of the best!

One of the things that she will NEVER bring up (which I've found to be amazing), is that she has never, EVER used genetics as an excuse...

At less than five-feet tall (is it 4'11" Jodi?)...and larger thighs and hips relative to her upper body....she essentially said "damn genetics"....and worked hard to sculpt a body that has left many a competitor in the dust...

So...when I hear some hack complaining about their "genetics"...I think of Jodi...


Keep kickin' it, girl...!


Mufasa
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Jodi on August 14, 2005, 05:48:47 PM
I've fought genetics, Mufasa.  It has literally taken me all five years in the NPC to get my shoulders to even begin to match my legs, to get my back to widen enough to offset my glutes.  My client and good friend, Julia, asked me a few weeks ago, "What is that?"  She was pointing to my waist where I had this muscle sticking out.  She was like, "I don't have that; what is that freaky thing?"  I told her, "My lat."  My lats actually insert at my waist, unlike the majority of the girls I compete with, and thus widening my back beneath the armpit, which figure rewards, has been near impossible.  I am very short with very long muscle bellies.  Great for powerlifting, horrible for figure.  Look at my legs.  They don't taper as they get closer to my knees.  Compare this to the other figure girls who are winning the shows.

My upper body remains pretty tight in the off season, Zack, and I've never had a weight problem.  But my quads do balloon out when I gain any bit of weight.  They look like one muscle, and the separation does not come until about two to four weeks before I step on stage.  I fight to get the water and fat off, and it comes right back in no time.  We all have areas of weakness and areas of strength, and I have had to learn to love my legs...they are the ones I've been given and they are thick and they are a blessing, not a curse (I try desperately to tell myself this).

And my ass?  Well, I've joked around that I could be a skeleton and still have a ghetto booty.  Thank heaven for genetics and heavy squats and deadlifts.
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Mufasa on August 14, 2005, 07:59:42 PM
Your hard work is inspiring, Jodi!

...and it always has been to me...!


Mufasa
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: INSOMNIA on August 15, 2005, 12:15:16 AM
Good post Richard.

In fact... Great post.

Another great bodybuilding physique that comes to mind, is Rhonda Dethlef's (INSOMNIA). INSOMNIA's got a great physique. Big inspiration to me.

YIP
Zack

Thank you Zack!!!!! xoxxoxoxoxo    :-*
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: BigDave81 on August 15, 2005, 11:14:06 AM
Jodi, you are an inspiration to people like me who are all natural and trying to climb up the ranks in the NPC.  I know it will take time and I am willing to wait.  You look great by the way!
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: an123 on August 15, 2005, 11:25:49 AM
She is a figure chick, she wouldn't be able to even pulloff a national show in womens "bodybuilding".  Which is sad indeed, because she has a good amount of lean muscle for a woman.
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: 8 INCH not biceps on August 15, 2005, 11:53:35 AM

 i would hit that
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: BroadStreetBruiser on August 15, 2005, 12:38:25 PM
Jodi's got a really pretty voice.
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: dawoud23 on August 15, 2005, 12:54:36 PM
Jodi is cool plus she has a great website.  Too bad pro women BBers don't look like her.  I'd watch their shows then.  ;D
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: DIVISION on August 15, 2005, 02:12:17 PM
Jodi is cool plus she has a great website.  Too bad pro women BBers don't look like her.  I'd watch their shows then.  ;D

I feel that.







DIV
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Jodi on August 15, 2005, 02:24:56 PM
This sounds so cheesy, but I really didn't expect all of this!  I'm at work right now and don't have a lot of time to respond, but thank you again for noticing my achievements in my physique.  If y'all have any questions regarding my own training and nutrition philosophies, please ask.  And I personally would love to hear from more competitors out there who are natural.  To look back and actually see yourself transform is amazing indeed, and more natural competitors should stand up, shout out, and be proud of themselves.

This is one case that bigger isn't always better!   ;D
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Cavalier22 on August 15, 2005, 02:54:05 PM
i personally am not that attracted to girls who are that shredded, although i will not deny taht this woman is attractive.

but i want to vomit when i see these bodybuilders who look like men, god what are they thinking.

Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Hedgehog on August 15, 2005, 03:00:12 PM
I just want to hold you. I just want to hold you. Oh yeah.
Am I in too deep?
Have I lost my mind?
Well I don`t care.
You`re here tonight.

I can be your hero baby.
I can kiss away the pain. Oh yeah.
I will stand by you forever.
You can take my breath away.
TAdonis...
Quoting Enrique Iglesias lyrics...

What the hellz are happening to you?

Snap out of it Mr MTV-Casanova. We need you here on planet earth! :-\

YIP
Zack
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: DIVISION on August 15, 2005, 03:01:24 PM
I just want to hold you. I just want to hold you. Oh yeah.
Am I in too deep?
Have I lost my mind?
Well I don`t care.
You`re here tonight.

I can be your hero baby.
I can kiss away the pain. Oh yeah.
I will stand by you forever.
You can take my breath away.

Zachariah is right.

This is a bit gay of you, Adonis.....

What the fuck are you on about, nugga?






DIV
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Richard2004 on August 15, 2005, 03:42:52 PM
Hey Jodi, when I was trying to gather the info. to put together this thread, I forgot to mention that I lived in southeast Texas...Corpus Christi...and went to W.B. Ray H.S.   You know, Farrah Fawcett lived in Corpus and graduated from Ray HS.

Do you live in SE Texas, because I read somewhere you were going to do a photoshoot on Padre Island?  Gosh, Corpus/Padre-Island was like a tropical paradise in those carefree HS days!

By the way, don't you have an Ed. degree from UT at Austin?  If so, what grades level(s) do you teach?

Also, congratuations, as you have done a great job of marketing yourself on the web!

Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: MindSpin on August 15, 2005, 03:50:41 PM
Hey Jodi, when I was trying to gather the info. to put together this thread, I forgot to mention that I lived in southeast Texas...Corpus Christi...and went to W.B. Ray H.S. You know, Farrah Fawcett lived in Corpus and graduated from Ray HS.

Do you live in SE Texas, because I read somewhere you were going to do a photoshoot on Padre Island? Gosh, Corpus/Padre-Island was like a tropical paradise in those carefree HS days!

By the way, don't you have an Ed. degree from UT at Austin? If so, what grades level(s) do you teach?

Also, congratuations, as you have done a great job of marketing yourself on the web!



Rich...you're one scary mothereffer...
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Richard2004 on August 15, 2005, 03:53:52 PM
The beginning of this post definitely reeks of schmoeness (thanks Rich

But...but... I thought "schmoes" were only supposed to be turned-on by the big, masculine-looking, "women" (a.k.a "she-he's), and definiitely NOT by the slender-built, all-woman/all-feminine, types of FBBers, like Jodi??! 

And, Jodi sure turns me on!!

MindSpin, your skewed logic is, as always, skewed-to-hell and ridiculous!
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Richard2004 on August 15, 2005, 03:59:55 PM
Rich...you're one scary mothereffer...

MindSpin, this post just "doesn't compute"!??  Methinks all of them drug cycles/stacks, you've been doing, for so long, has "softened your brain"!!

Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Dan-O on August 15, 2005, 04:16:42 PM
I went to the Preference Ball my freshman year in college with a girl from Vidor, TX.

True story.

P.S.  Jodels is teh hottness.  Take another look at this hiney.  Mmm mmm baby. :)

(http://www.jodileigh.com/images/gallery/hwang_s1/images/18099.jpg)
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Hedgehog on August 15, 2005, 04:33:18 PM
MindSpin, this post just "doesn't compute"!??  Methinks all of them drug cycles/stacks, you've been doing, for so long, has "softened your brain"!!



Richard, here's the thing.

Some people think you're a schmoe. Well, you're obviously not. You're just... different.

Different? Yes. Schmoe? No.

I know you will find this hard to believe, but some people actually believe you're one of those fellas who pays for sessions, and loves shemale physiques. Yeah, I know, crazy isn't it?

Well Richard. You don't need any Tom Mesearau to convince you're not guilty of the schmoe charges. You have your Neverland.

                            Richards Neverland
(http://www.womenstri-fitness.com/homepage/Vegas05.jpg)



Don't we all? ::)

YIP
Zack
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: freeagain on August 15, 2005, 04:54:30 PM

nice physique ,jodels.. but it took ya a whole lifetime of trainin and self denial to reach that....

go on the juice youd be overtakin her in 10 months....... roids are a shortcut to B from A!

i dont even contemplate liftin with out pinnin now.. why waste all that time n effort for f'uck all results.. i havnt got 10 years of my short time on this lush green planet to waste to discover if i got the genetics or not!

best start off on a sure thing from the word go!

hope this helps!

Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Richard2004 on August 15, 2005, 05:23:24 PM
Richard, here's the thing.

Some people think you're a schmoe. Well, you're obviously not. You're just... different.

Different? Yes. Schmoe? No.

I know you will find this hard to believe, but some people actually believe you're one of those fellas who pays for sessions, and loves shemale physiques. Yeah, I know, crazy isn't it?

Well Richard. You don't need any Tom Mesearau to convince you're not guilty of the schmoe charges. You have your Neverland.

Don't we all? ::)

YIP
Zack

You got me dead to rights, bro!!  Yeah, since I'm really into photography, I guess my "Neverland" is locating/looking-at  pics. of beautiful women (e.g. fitness/figure/FBB chicks, etc.).   

But hey Zack, you know people...they are going to believe what they WANT to believe, regardless!

And, I really enjoy "sparring" with MindSpin on these threads regarding FBB and our different concepts of "feminine beauty"!  At least, we unanimously agree on Jodi (and Dina...and Dana) on the feminine beauty scale!

After all, MindSpin taught me how to originally post pics. on Getbig, and even spell Norma Carrasquilla's (WOW!) native Colombia (not Columbia!) correctly!
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Beyond Genetics on August 15, 2005, 09:46:11 PM
put ten pounds on her and she would be perfect...  (of fat that is)
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Jodi on August 15, 2005, 10:32:24 PM
put ten pounds on her and she would be perfect...  (of fat that is)

Dear, that's called off season.  Not one of those photos was taken during my off season.
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Dan-O on August 15, 2005, 10:50:33 PM
Vidor is small isn`t it? Was she hot?

I hear it's pretty small.  This girl was cute but not hot.  The girl I was dating at the time was hot, but her roommate/friend (Vidor Girl) pref'ed me so what are you gonna do?
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: rocket on August 15, 2005, 11:00:42 PM
I want your soul. I will eat your soul.
Come to Daddy! Come to Daddy!
Come to Daddy! Come to Mummy!
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Jodi on August 15, 2005, 11:24:31 PM
I don't think I've ever heard of Vidor, but then again, there are a ton of small, Texas towns that I have never heard of.

I'm actually heading to South Padre for a shoot with IFBB pro fitness competitor, Jen Cook, this weekend; we're working with Gene Carangal, who runs www.imagesofvenus.com.

I live and work full time in the Dallas area.  I graduated from The University of Texas at Austin with an English degree and a secondary teaching certification.  I also have a personal training certification, and while I'm in the corporate arena now, I still do English tutoring and personal training on the side.

I could have gotten an education degree, but I felt I would have more opportunities with an English degree in the real world (beyond teaching).  Honestly, though, when I was searching for jobs early this year, my English degree did almost squat for me.  And few people recognized the management skills it takes to be a high school teacher.  The general public has quite the misconstrued view of what a teacher actually does and how hard a teacher works and how little the government and society reward that teacher.

That's a whole other soapbox of mine that we won't delve into (not that I'm accustomed to getting onto soapboxes... ;D ).

Adonis, I don't know what got into you with the "Hero" song.  I'm scared to ask.

Freeagain, I'm positive you're egging me on, and I'll go ahead and bite.  There are no shortcuts in life.  Take one, and you'll pay the price eventually.  I've seen up close and personal what the shortcut of steroids looks like.  It's not pretty...not in the face, not in the health of the physique beneath that face.  By the way, it wasn't quite an entire lifetime.  I'll be 33 in November.  The first half of my life was spent either with my nose in a novel (I was a nerd...I admit it) or using that very same nose to hit volleyballs in PE class (with a nose like this and a true klutz factor, how could I help that from occurring?).  My mother is still shocked that I can actually pick up a bag of groceries without complaining about how heavy it is and that I actually ask for seconds and thirds at Thanksgiving time (I ate like a bird growing up).

I value every moment I've spent in the gym in the last 15 years.  I wouldn't be me without those experiences.
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Hedgehog on August 16, 2005, 02:26:19 AM
I hear it's pretty small.  This girl was cute but not hot.  The girl I was dating at the time was hot, but her roommate/friend (Vidor Girl) pref'ed me so what are you gonna do?

What's with this Vidor Girl Connection?

Sounds wild.

Vidor looks to be all over the place if you ask me.

YIP
Zack
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Camel Jockey on August 16, 2005, 04:31:57 AM
You're probably the only female bb'er whose pictures I would look at.
Keep up the goodwork.
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Beyond Genetics on August 16, 2005, 05:50:08 AM
Dear, that's called off season.  Not one of those photos was taken during my off season.



I know; and I meant it as a compliment...  your very cute..  please don't juice  :)
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Jodi on August 16, 2005, 06:12:51 AM

your very cute..  please don't juice  :)

Never!  I'll do what I can to pull a few images and place them in photobucket or imageshack and show what my off season tends to look like.

Camel Jockey, the compliment is nice, but there are actually a ton of beautiful women in this industry who haven't crossed the line.  I'm unique, but I'm definitely not the prettiest nor the best built.  I made it a point when trying to get to the top of the national NPC level to market myself on the internet and gain necessary exposure so I didn't become just a number.  This also allowed others to be aware of who I am.

Trust me.  Go to your local and regional figure, fitness, and bodybuilding shows.  Pay close attention in the gyms.  Thumb through an Oxygen magazine and the latest Natural Bodybuilding magazine.  You will find other women with pretty faces and pretty physiques.
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: sammy st lucia on August 16, 2005, 06:32:42 AM
Richard, here's the thing.

Some people think you're a schmoe. Well, you're obviously not. You're just... different.

Different? Yes. Schmoe? No.

I know you will find this hard to believe, but some people actually believe you're one of those fellas who pays for sessions, and loves shemale physiques. Yeah, I know, crazy isn't it?

Well Richard. You don't need any Tom Mesearau to convince you're not guilty of the schmoe charges. You have your Neverland.

                            Richards Neverland
(http://www.womenstri-fitness.com/homepage/Vegas05.jpg)



Don't we all? ::)

YIP
Zack

richard NOT a schmoe ..... are you on CRACK ?
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Hedgehog on August 16, 2005, 07:38:45 AM
richard NOT a schmoe ..... are you on CRACK ?

Read the guy.

He's just one of these guys who believes there's good in everyone. Look at that reference he made to how he was still grateful to Mindspin, after Minder called him a schmoe. He's like a lamb trying to dance with a wolfpack. He's the Candide of Getbig, if you will. An optimistic naïve man who never gives up on anyone. 8)

IMO, he ain't no schmoe.

Ask Tre, he should know.

YIP
Zack
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Richard2004 on August 16, 2005, 02:36:28 PM
Read the guy.

He's just one of these guys who believes there's good in everyone. Look at that reference he made to how he was still grateful to Mindspin, after Minder called him a schmoe. He's like a lamb trying to dance with a wolfpack. He's the Candide of Getbig, if you will. An optimistic naïve man who never gives up on anyone. 8)

IMO, he ain't no schmoe.

Ask Tre, he should know.

YIP
Zack

Zack, thanks for the "kudos/support"...but, as I said, people are going to believe what they want to believe, regardless of the truth!

Zack, you just "gots" to understand that those immature/frustrated types need someone to bash, and launch personal attacks against, on these threads to "get their jollies", "when they're having a bad day", "to relieve their frustrations", etc.,....so why not me...why, we all need a "whippin' boy", don't we?! 

Let's see, total strangers routinely call me a schmoe, queer/homo/fag, retard, asshole, ass,-uhhh, have I left any names out?

One post that I really got a laugh over was the poster who called me a "homo" and said that I went to the gym just to "hang around" the men's locker room to look at the "their naked physiques"-or some sort of BS like that! 

Having been BB regularly for over 40 long years, I have about 2000 lbs. of free weights in my home gym, including:  a lifting platform, two 400 lb. York Olympic sets, two heavy-duty power racks, about six 7' exercise bars, about 1200 lbs. of exercise plates, solid dumbbells ranging from 5 to 120 lbs. in 5 lb. increments, diamond bar, lat machine, calf machine, heavy-duty angled leg press machine, hyperextension bench, squat racks, plate loading DB for DB rows over 120 lbs., etc.

So, who the hell needs to go-to/drive-to the "gym" with the elaborate, very convenient, HOME GYM that I have??!  And, believe me, I really train like a demon in it!!!
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Richard2004 on August 16, 2005, 02:56:18 PM
I don't think I've ever heard of Vidor, but then again, there are a ton of small, Texas towns that I have never heard of.

I'm actually heading to South Padre for a shoot with IFBB pro fitness competitor, Jen Cook, this weekend; we're working with Gene Carangal, who runs www.imagesofvenus.com.

I live and work full time in the Dallas area.  I graduated from The University of Texas at Austin with an English degree and a secondary teaching certification.  I also have a personal training certification, and while I'm in the corporate arena now, I still do English tutoring and personal training on the side.

I could have gotten an education degree, but I felt I would have more opportunities with an English degree in the real world (beyond teaching).  Honestly, though, when I was searching for jobs early this year, my English degree did almost squat for me.  And few people recognized the management skills it takes to be a high school teacher.  The general public has quite the misconstrued view of what a teacher actually does and how hard a teacher works and how little the government and society reward that teacher.

That's a whole other soapbox of mine that we won't delve into (not that I'm accustomed to getting onto soapboxes... ;D ).

I value every moment I've spent in the gym in the last 15 years.  I wouldn't be me without those experiences.

Jodi, I just have very fond memories of my youth growing up in southeastern Texas/Corpus Christi/Padre Island, etc.   When I was in competitive Olympic-weightlifting/powerlifting,  I trained with, and competed against, some great Olympic-weightlifters/Powerlifters from Texas (albeit, before your time) such as Sid Henry, Paul Ash, Tommy Suggs, Bill Starr and Terry Todd...several representing the Dallas Y and S.M.U.

Jodi, being a MS/HS teacher, I am always trying to promote sensible, drug-free, weight-training for my female students, and your bio., and pictures, are really an inspiration for them to get hooked on the "iron-pills"!!
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Richard2004 on August 17, 2005, 02:48:21 PM
Another all-natural female bodybuilder, who needs to be recognized on this thread, is Guam's LORI HELENE CRUZ HAYDEN (a.k.a. "Chamorrita")!

Lori won the 52 kg. (144.4 lb.) class at the 2003 World Amateur Bodybuilding Championships, and qualified for her "pro. card"!

However, Lori wisely decided that going the "drug route" was not for her; in an effort to compete on a "level playing field" with the heavy drug-using professional female bodybuilders!

Lori is another excellent example of the truly beautiful figure a woman can realistically hope to achieve through dedicated NATURAL, intelligent, weight-training...

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a155/guammusclegirl/onthebeach.jpg)

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=34425.0;id=36071;image)

(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a266/richard2004/Lori_1.jpg)[/img]


(http://www.wpw.net/wpwclubs/0-intros/lhayden/club01/images/lh.004b.jpg)

(http://www.wpw.net/wpwclubs/0-intros/overmanhayden/intro/images/colh.014s.jpg)





Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Hedgehog on August 18, 2005, 01:21:53 AM
"Hi, My name is Lori Hayden. But my friends call me Horseshoe."

(http://www.wpw.net/wpwclubs/0-intros/lhayden/club01/images/lh.004b.jpg)

YIP
Zack
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Dan-O on August 18, 2005, 11:43:22 AM
Vidor is the next BIG THING.  Trust us on that.

Vidor rhymes with "ride 'er," "tighter" and lots of other cool stuff.
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Richard2004 on August 18, 2005, 03:38:11 PM
RHONDA DETHLEFS  (a.k.a Getbig's "Insomnia") is, apparently, another ALL-NATURAL female bodybuilder, who certainly deserves recognition on this thread "dedicated" to displaying the physiques/figures of FBBers who train without the use of BB drugs!

Rhonda is an NPC Heavyweight FBB competitor, fitness model, and a personal trainer (thanks for the "heads-up", Zack!)...

Yes ladies, it is truly possible to develop a great FEMININE figure, and tremendous natural strength, through intelligent, progressive, weight-training WITHOUT resorting to the use of dangerous bodybuilding drugs...as Rhonda, Lori, and Jodi, so dramatically demonstrate!!

In the pics. below, Rhonda looks totally-feminine   in BOTH her off-season and pre-contest conditions(this is an often unique accomplishment, usually achieved ONLY by the natural FBBers!!)...

(http://www.wpw.net/wpwclubs/0-intros/rdethlefs629/club04/images/rd4.035b.jpg)

(http://www.wpw.net/wpwclubs/0-intros/rdethlefs629/club03/images/rd3.009b.jpg)

(http://www.wpw.net/wpwclubs/0-intros/rdethlefs629/club02/images/rd2.015b.jpg)

(http://www.wpw.net/wpwclubs/0-intros/rdethlefs629/club01/images/rd1.024b.jpg)

(http://www.rhondadethlefs.com/newphotos/gold%20bikini.jpg)

(http://www.rhondadethlefs.com/Gallery/Gallery01/Pics/42993.jpg)

(http://www.rhondadethlefs.com/Gallery/Gallery01/Pics/42969.jpg)

(http://www.rhondadethlefs.com/Gallery/HERBICEPS/shorts/images/04olymiaHB081.jpg)

(http://www.rhondadethlefs.com/Gallery/HERBICEPS/bluetop/images/04olymiaHB001.jpg)

(http://www.rhondadethlefs.com/Gallery/Gallery05/Pics/FO_TUniverse0803_0356.jpg)

(http://www.rhondadethlefs.com/Gallery/Gallery03/Pics/Outside0020.jpg)

(http://www.rhondadethlefs.com/Gallery/Gallery03/Pics/Outside0016.jpg)

(http://www.rhondadethlefs.com/Gallery/Gallery03/Pics/Outside0004.jpg)

(http://www.rhondadethlefs.com/Gallery/Gallery03/Pics/Outside0003.jpg)

Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: sarcasm on August 18, 2005, 03:39:38 PM
legs are soft in all those pics.
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: DIVISION on August 18, 2005, 03:43:36 PM
RHONDA DETHLEFS  (a.k.a Getbig's "Insomnia") is, apparently, another ALL-NATURAL female bodybuilder, who certainly deserves recognition on this thread "dedicated" to displaying the physiques/figures of FBBers who train without the use of BB drugs!

Rhonda is an NPC Heavyweight FBB competitor, fitness model, and a personal trainer (thanks for the "heads-up", Zack!)...

Yes ladies, it is truly possible to develop a great FEMININE figure, and tremendous natural strength, through intelligent, progressive, weight-training WITHOUT resorting to the use of dangerous bodybuilding drugs...as Rhonda, Lori, and Jodi, so dramatically demonstrate!!

In the pics. below, Rhonda looks totally-feminine   in both her off-season and pre-contest condition(this is usually an unique accomplishment for the natural FBBers)...

(http://www.rhondadethlefs.com/Gallery/HERBICEPS/bluetop/images/04olymiaHB001.jpg)

Concur.  She doesn't look likes she's every cycled anything harsh.  Her eyes really tell alot about her.  She's an inquisitive creature......she looks for meaning, insightful.





DIV
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Richard2004 on August 18, 2005, 04:34:10 PM
ALL-NATURAL female bodybuilder DONNA  HAWLEY...

(http://www.trulyhuge.com/donnahawley/trulyhuge4225.jpg)

(http://www.trulyhuge.com/donnahawley/trulyhuge4238.jpg)

(http://www.trulyhuge.com/donnahawley/trulyhuge4290.jpg)

(http://www.trulyhuge.com/donnahawley/trulyhuge4294.jpg)

(http://www.trulyhuge.com/donnahawley/trulyhuge4303.jpg)


Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: INSOMNIA on August 18, 2005, 09:26:22 PM
Thanks Richard!!! No I can say i have never gone that route, (have been temped a few times) but glad i never did. These competitons are just not worth it to me.

The first one was taken last week.
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: INSOMNIA on August 18, 2005, 09:27:38 PM
 :)
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: INSOMNIA on August 18, 2005, 09:39:48 PM
legs are soft in all those pics.

my legs would crush your head like a melon   ::)
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: DIVISION on August 19, 2005, 02:32:54 AM
my legs would crush your head like a melon   ::)

@ sarcasm..........I think she's serious, bro.

Her eyes don't lie.......she seems like the type of woman who means absolute business.

Rhonda can be pretty rough at times.....







DIV
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: seven on August 19, 2005, 05:39:27 AM

  Very inspiring ladies!     
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Richard2004 on August 19, 2005, 11:56:56 AM
Thanks Richard!!! No I can say i have never gone that route, (have been temped a few times) but glad i never did. These competitons are just not worth it to me.

Rhonda, like Jodi and Lori, you are an outstanding example of what female bodybuilding SHOULD be and maybe, someday, can return to!!!

When 12-13 year old middle school girls are taking BB drugs to help "develop" their figures and have come to believe it it the "only" way to "look good", then something is totally awry...not to mention the added problems of poor self-esteem, anorexia, bulemia, etc.!!

All-natural FBBers, like yourself, could be such a tremendous inspiration to MS/HS girls; if it could only be possible for them to see, first-hand, the marvelous figure you have developed through intelligent exercise and diet alone!  In lieu of that, your pictures will provide great inspiration...PLEASE keep them coming!
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: DIVISION on August 19, 2005, 12:36:42 PM
Thanks Richard!!! No I can say i have never gone that route, (have been temped a few times) but glad i never did. These competitons are just not worth it to me.

Now that's something I can respect.....

That's pure will.






DIV
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Richard2004 on August 19, 2005, 01:03:53 PM
ALL-NATURAL female bodybuilder (FBBer), fitness model, dance instructor, figure competitor, actress, and writer, FAWNIA MONDEY ...

(http://shopping.officiallyfawnia.com/gfx/products/10048/image.jpg)

(http://shopping.officiallyfawnia.com/gfx/products/10047/image.jpg)

(http://shopping.officiallyfawnia.com/gfx/products/10046/image.jpg)

(http://shopping.officiallyfawnia.com/gfx/products/10045/image.jpg)
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Hedgehog on August 19, 2005, 01:52:16 PM
Believe it or not, but it was some of the comments on these boards that helped my decision...helped me see the big picture.

You're really getting good INSOMNIA, the new pics... You got density, thickness. Dunno if you've put on a lot of mass, but it's just a type of quality increase that I doubt I've seen in any juiced up females.

Quite honestly, I thought you were good before, real good. Now... Damn.

YIP
Zack
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: INSOMNIA on August 19, 2005, 02:09:43 PM
Thank you Zack!!! I havent put on much more mass, just quality at this point. I have trouble getting my legs to lean down.
If and when Ican ever make this happen, I could actually do some damage at the national level.
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Hedgehog on August 19, 2005, 02:14:38 PM
Thank you Zack!!! I havent put on much more mass, just quality at this point. I have trouble getting my legs to lean down.
If and when Ican ever make this happen, I could actually do some damage at the national level.

Rhonda, no need to go into detail on what your training schedule is, but is there any change to the training, maybe 10-12 months ago that made you become this much better?

YIP
Zack
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: INSOMNIA on August 19, 2005, 02:23:54 PM
Watching the diet year round...very careful planning, high quality protien/ carbs. Very few empty calories....Expensive? YES!!

I didnt gain more than 12 lbs in the offseason.

Training has stayed the same...found a training split that I love and have stuck with it. I maintain at least some cardio in the offseason...helps recovery. Something I never did much of in the past.
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: ~flower~ on August 19, 2005, 02:24:46 PM

 Rhonda you look great girl!!   :D

   Good to see you around again.   :)
   
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: INSOMNIA on August 19, 2005, 07:48:27 PM
Thanks! Like the new avatar!!! Are those yours?   8)
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Richard2004 on August 20, 2005, 01:22:33 PM
ALL-NATURAL FBBer and Fitness model SHANNON DAVIES…

(http://www.freelancemodels.com/image.php?path=fm_pics/5598_12.jpg)

(http://www.freelancemodels.com/image.php?path=fm_pics/5598_19.jpg)

(http://www.trulyhuge.com/shannon/HuGe129.jpg)

(http://www.trulyhuge.com/shannon/HuGe044.jpg)

(http://www.trulyhuge.com/shannon/HuGe091.jpg)



Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: DIVISION on August 20, 2005, 01:49:42 PM
ALL-NATURAL FBBer and Fitness model SHANNON DAVIES…

Richard........she must be off-season because she looks like any other girl I see...She doesn't even look fitness.... ???

It appears you are expanding your criteria for what female bb/fitness are.....






DIV
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Richard2004 on August 20, 2005, 02:47:13 PM
Richard........she must be off-season because she looks like any other girl I see...She doesn't even look fitness.... ???

It appears you are expanding your criteria for what female bb/fitness are.....
DIV

Gee gollies, Div...that may be the whole problem in all of this!!  In other words, a misunderstanding of the definition of the term "bodybuilding"!

Uhhh...we ain't just goin' by "looks" as the sole "criteria" for whether a woman is a FBBer!  We are going on STRICTLY the FACT that gals like Shannon lift weights to improve their physical appearance NATURALLY (i.e. with the aid of weight-training and diet alone!!  By the way, Div, this was the original definition of the term "bodybuilding" before the "drug freaks" came along and fuccked it, all to hell, up!!

Do you see the 4th pic., above, of Shannon doin' a BB curl???  So, by definition, Shannon Davies IS a female bodybuilder!!
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Richard2004 on August 20, 2005, 03:08:49 PM
Rhonda you look great girl!!   :D

   Good to see you around again.   :)
   

Flower, "honeychile", are you too an all-natural FBBer, like Rhonda??!  If so, we sure wish you would post some pics. for inspirational purposes!
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Mars on August 20, 2005, 03:55:15 PM
Skinny.
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: DIVISION on August 20, 2005, 04:05:52 PM
Gee gollies, Div...that may be the whole problem in all of this!!  In other words, a misunderstanding of the definition of the term "bodybuilding"!

Uhhh...we ain't just goin' by "looks" as the sole "criteria" for whether a woman is a FBBer!  We are going on STRICTLY the FACT that gals like Shannon lift weights to improve their physical appearance NATURALLY (i.e. with the aid of weight-training and diet alone!!  By the way, Div, this was the original definition of the term "bodybuilding" before the "drug freaks" came along and fuccked it, all to hell, up!!

Do you see the 4th pic., above, of Shannon doin' a BB curl???  So, by definition, Shannon Davies IS a female bodybuilder!!

Sorry bro........I didn't mean to get your blood pressure up.   :-\

I guess I'm so used to the fitness chicks being cut up and shit, I forgot that not all go to that extreme.





DIV
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Richard2004 on August 21, 2005, 10:54:43 AM
Sorry bro........I didn't mean to get your blood pressure up.   :-\

I guess I'm so used to the fitness chicks being cut up and shit, I forgot that not all go to that extreme.
DIV

No BP problems on the subject...but, who wouldn't be confused with all of the BB drug-loaded chicks running loose to "muddy the water"!

Div, I pulled Shannon's pics. off a site/links which claimed she was a natural FBBer (again, she weight-trains, hence she's a FBBer!).  Granted, Shannon has a long way to go to obtain the muscularity of a Rhonda/Jodi/Lori!

But, if you go to your local health clubs, you will find a lot of women who w-t and have a similar build to Shannon's.  Thank God for this large (and, hopefully growing) population of natural, non-competitive/recreational, FBBers!!
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Richard2004 on August 21, 2005, 11:51:54 AM
FBBer (uhhh...she weight-trains naturally!), fitness/figure model, and mag. covergirl, DEEANN DONOVAN...

(http://www.trulyhuge.com/deeann/deeann3.jpg)

(http://www.trulyhuge.com/deeann/deeann2.jpg)

(http://entertainmentworld.us/GImage/gallery/Supermodels/DeeAnn/Done-4x6-72DPI-DeeAnn1044.jpg)

(http://www.octoberpress.net/DeeannDonovan.JPG)

(http://www.criticalbench.com/images/Deeannblackshirt175.jpg)

(http://entertainmentworld.us/GImage/gallery/Supermodels/DeeAnn/DoneDeeAnn1187.jpg)

(http://www.fitness-files.com/profile/p/deeann_donovan/300x200.jpg)
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: 240 or bust on August 21, 2005, 11:55:10 AM
Not to sound like a schmoe...

But in person, off-season female BBers are not as bad as some say.  Some had curves and retained a bit of the sexuality. The FBB they had there really did look manly tho- voice, body, posture, everything...
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: RockinAR on August 21, 2005, 11:56:11 AM
Jodi Miller is natural? ? ?

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Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: DIVISION on August 21, 2005, 12:57:44 PM
Jodi Miller is natural? ? ?

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If Jodi Miller isn't natural, then what exactly is she on?

Granted, I haven't met her in person, then I'd know for sure one way or another because I know all the subtle signs.

Judging from her pics I don't see any signs of virilization in Jodi.

She's one of the most femmenine female bodybuilders I've ever seen with that level of muscularity.

Please enlighten me on this, or are you full of shit and just making empty accusations?







DIV
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: sarcasm on August 21, 2005, 12:59:45 PM
he's just jealous that she has more muscle than he does.
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: DIVISION on August 21, 2005, 01:09:18 PM
he's just jealous that she has more muscle than he does.

There's so much blind hatred in this place.......it's crazy.... :P

I don't understand it. 





DIV
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Richard2004 on August 21, 2005, 03:00:24 PM
If Jodi Miller isn't natural, then what exactly is she on?

Granted, I haven't met her in person, then I'd know for sure one way or another because I know all the subtle signs.

Judging from her pics I don't see any signs of virilization in Jodi.

She's one of the most femmenine female bodybuilders I've ever seen with that level of muscularity.

Please enlighten me on this, or are you full of shit and just making empty accusations?
DIV

Div, all we can do is assume that gals like Rhonda, Jodi, and Lori, are telling the truth about their refusal to go the BB drug route in their FBB efforts?!   Since we can't give them lie-detector tests, or get a urine sample analysis, what other choice(s) do we have?

It seems that natural FBBer can develop comparable definition/vascularity in their muscular development, it is just in the relative muscle size that the BB drugs seem to make such an obvious difference.

Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: sarcasm on August 21, 2005, 03:08:10 PM
like the loan shark said in the first Rocky movie, "some guys they just hate for no reason."
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: DIVISION on August 21, 2005, 08:32:30 PM
Div, all we can do is assume that gals like Rhonda, Jodi, and Lori, are telling the truth about their refusal to go the BB drug route in their FBB efforts?!   Since we can't give them detector tests, or get a urine sample analysis, what other choice(s) do we have?

I'm going balls out on this, Richie Rich!

I intend to find out what's what and who's injecting androgens in to their butt..... ;D

Don't hate me for my inquisitive nature....







DIV
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on August 21, 2005, 09:56:01 PM
Another all-natural female bodybuilder, who needs to be recognized on this thread, is Guam's LORI HELENE CRUZ HAYDEN (a.k.a. "Chamorrita")!

Lori won the 52 kg. (144.4 lb.) class at the 2003 World Amateur Bodybuilding Championships, and qualified for her "pro. card"!

However, Lori wisely decided that going the "drug route" was not for her; in an effort to compete on a "level playing field" with the heavy drug-using professional female bodybuilders!

Lori is another excellent example of the truly beautiful figure a woman can realistically hope to achieve through dedicated NATURAL, intelligent, weight-training...

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a155/guammusclegirl/onthebeach.jpg)

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=34425.0;id=36071;image)

(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a266/richard2004/Lori_1.jpg)[/img]


(http://www.wpw.net/wpwclubs/0-intros/lhayden/club01/images/lh.004b.jpg)

(http://www.wpw.net/wpwclubs/0-intros/overmanhayden/intro/images/colh.014s.jpg)







And she's all mine 8)!!
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Jodi on August 21, 2005, 10:47:50 PM
Jodi Miller is natural? ? ?

bullshit

One bullshit would have sufficed, RockinAR.

I've been tempted too.  I've had trainers, fellow competitors, and various men in this industry trying to convince me that anavar, Growth, primo, and a multitude of other "supplements" would do me a world of good.  I thought long and hard about the pros and cons of taking steroids and of remaining natural.  I chose to remain natural and I'd be happy to state the long list of reasons as to why.  I have busted my ass in the gym for 15 years to gain the type of muscularity you see in my physique.  In fact, I trained from the time I was 18 to the time I was 26 before ever "dieting down" for a show.  Pete Grubbs, who works with Tanji Johnson, helped me with my nutrition this year, and I told him expressly...no ephedra, no diuretics (not even over the counter), no drugs.  I wanted to do this the way I knew it could be done, the way it should be done.  I wanted other women to see what can happen when you put balls to the wall, throw everything you have into the workouts, follow the diet, discuss things openly with the person helping you with your diet and your training, and don't fall prey to what is the popular method at the given time.

I have personally seen girls faces change in the last two to three years...I do mean in person, right before my eyes.  Every single time I thought about what a bit of anavar could do for me (judges were telling me I was too tiny...in figure, mind you), I clicked on these very same girls' sites and compared their photos from two and three years ago to now.  The changes scared me every single time I pointed my mouse to their websites.  It was all I needed to say no.  Meet me in person, RockinAR.  Say to my face what you said on here, and you'll get a piece of my mind even more bluntly.  I have been very outspoken about my opinion of gear use in this industry amongst the women and will continue to be whenever someone will take the time to listen to me.
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: rocket on August 21, 2005, 11:09:25 PM
Jodels looks natural to me, plus she's tiny, which means she can take advantage of that to look bigger proportionately.
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: ANAL DISCHARGE on August 21, 2005, 11:17:42 PM
What a splendid thread.  This young lass Jodi certainly looks the part.  Reminds me of years ago when the chaps and myself had an array of similarly short women (very sexy) at our disposal.  This was a while back so unfortunately the ladies concerned didn't have such wonderful thighs with which to crush your head but we had our filthy way with them all the same.  Sometimes it was a communal gang bang and at others we would individually call one of them up to service and be serviced.  No doubt Jodi is part of a similar such group providing the same delights.
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: DIVISION on August 22, 2005, 12:09:01 PM
One bullshit would have sufficed, RockinAR.

I've been tempted too.  I've had trainers, fellow competitors, and various men in this industry trying to convince me that anavar, Growth, primo, and a multitude of other "supplements" would do me a world of good.  I thought long and hard about the pros and cons of taking steroids and of remaining natural.  I chose to remain natural and I'd be happy to state the long list of reasons as to why.  I have busted my ass in the gym for 15 years to gain the type of muscularity you see in my physique.  In fact, I trained from the time I was 18 to the time I was 26 before ever "dieting down" for a show.  Pete Grubbs, who works with Tanji Johnson, helped me with my nutrition this year, and I told him expressly...no ephedra, no diuretics (not even over the counter), no drugs.  I wanted to do this the way I knew it could be done, the way it should be done.  I wanted other women to see what can happen when you put balls to the wall, throw everything you have into the workouts, follow the diet, discuss things openly with the person helping you with your diet and your training, and don't fall prey to what is the popular method at the given time.

I have personally seen girls faces change in the last two to three years...I do mean in person, right before my eyes.  Every single time I thought about what a bit of anavar could do for me (judges were telling me I was too tiny...in figure, mind you), I clicked on these very same girls' sites and compared their photos from two and three years ago to now.  The changes scared me every single time I pointed my mouse to their websites.  It was all I needed to say no.  Meet me in person, RockinAR.  Say to my face what you said on here, and you'll get a piece of my mind even more bluntly.  I have been very outspoken about my opinion of gear use in this industry amongst the women and will continue to be whenever someone will take the time to listen to me.

@ Jodi, you're right about the facial changes from even low dose AAS use in women.  Genetics determine receptor site distribution and steroid uptake and in some women it only take an introduction of the afflicting AAS to induce changes.  Obviously some women can tolerate more without the same effect. 

I'm glad you've been penitent in your choice and stayed true.  You are correct.......a woman's face is one of the last vestiges she has.  Lose that and you lose part of your appeal.

@RockinAR, she is right you know.  She is blunt.  If you said that to her in person she would tell you to fuck off in no uncertain terms.  She can be icy like that when she needs to be.




DIV
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Richard2004 on August 22, 2005, 01:33:27 PM
And she's all mine 8)!!

A belated congratulations!  May the two of you live happily ever after, etc.!!

Possibly, you could get a top-notch FBBer, like Lori, to comment on her struggles to "stay the all-natural FBB route" (similar to Jodi's revealing and inspirational remarks)?!
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Richard2004 on August 22, 2005, 01:49:49 PM
All-natural FBBer and "fitness babe" model ANABELLA GORDON...

(http://www.trulyhuge.com/anngordon/DSC00298.JPG)
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Richard2004 on August 22, 2005, 02:14:02 PM
All-natural FBBER and NPC national-level Figure competitor, 26 year-old NIKKI WARNER...WOW!

(http://www.trulyhuge.com/nikki/th5.jpg)

(http://www.trulyhuge.com/nikki/th17.jpg)

(http://www.missnikki.com/gallery/nikki15.jpg)

(http://www.missnikki.com/gallery/nikki13.jpg)

(http://www.missnikki.com/gallery/nikki22.jpg)

(http://www.missnikki.com/gallery/nikki28.jpg)
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Jodi on August 22, 2005, 05:48:05 PM
Nikki and I have competed together for years!  She has really stuck it out and come back show after show.  I believe it was two years ago that she won both the bodybuilding and the figure portions of the collegiate nationals.

I just want to put into perspective how little I am.  When people on boards only have stage pictures of competitors or lone images where photographers play tricks with the camera, lighting, and angles to lengthen legs or thicken upper bodies, it's easy to lose sight of the fact that most of us aren't as enormous as we seem.

Melissa Dettwiller and Jody May join me in this shot:

(http://www.jodileigh.com/images/gallery/usa05/044.jpg)

There are more stage images as well as a few more expo images from the USA's on my site:  http://www.jodileigh.com/images/gallery/usa05.
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Eagle_eye on August 23, 2005, 09:56:53 AM
Jodi looks adorable.
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Richard2004 on August 23, 2005, 03:24:48 PM
Jodi looks adorable.

Yes, Jodi certainly does!!

Jodi, thankyou for the pics. (please keep them coming) and thankyou for your highly informative inputs to this thread!!

Since I've been around FBB since its inception, I certainly concur that lean muscular figures like Jodi's are the type of physiques that natural weight-training can build for a woman!!  These physiques are remininscent of the great, very apparent, all-natural, FBBers of the early-mid 1980's...Rachel McLish, Margo Selin, Carla Dunlap, Tina Plakinger, Lori Bowen, etc.

No, we can't give these professed "all-natural" FBBers lie detector tests and/or urinalyses, but we only have to look at their physiques, facial features, skin textures, relative difference in muscle-size/mass, and listen to their voice levels!  In so doing, the differences between them, and the FBBers on BB drugs, is pretty obvious!
 
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Richard2004 on August 23, 2005, 05:53:58 PM
All-natural FBBer and Figure competitor  ALANA HERNANDEZ...

(http://www.trulyhuge.com/alana/ALAINA%20002.jpg)

(http://www.absolute-bikini.com/a3h1.jpg)

(http://www.absolute-bikini.com/alana11.jpg)


Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Jodi on August 23, 2005, 08:13:19 PM
Alana Hernandez turned pro at the Figure Nationals in New York just a few weeks ago after competing in the NPC for years!  I had a chance to hang out with her at the Junior Nationals in Chicago.

Now, this has nothing to do with her physique, which I think is good, or her placing, but she is a blast to hang out with.  Down to earth and hilarious, she kept me calm during the tanning process before the show (I normally freak out big time with that crap).  She didn't know me at all, only knew that I am a good friend of Cindy Martinez's, and she took the time to show me a better way of applying the Protan.  That may mean nothing to some people on this board, but when someone takes time out of their schedule in the remaining hours before a show to help another competitor, it shows their true grit, integrity, and heart.  That was a sidenote, but I do wish her the best in the pro ranks.
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Richard2004 on August 24, 2005, 12:44:32 PM
I thought tina Plackenger used.  ???

You know Medford, you might be right?!  It is just so hard to find women who are "all-natural"...particularly nowadays!

You either have to go back to the period of say 1980-84, or try to pick out those few examples you can currently "scrounge up" on the web!

For example, in the "old days", having met, and knowing somewhat the character of, Rachel McLish, Carla Dunlap, and Georgia Fudge, I am assuming they were "all-natural" FBBers.

However, as much as I admire the great Kay Baxter and the immortal Cory Everson...when one considers their associations with Don Ross, Dr. John Gourgott, and Jeff Everson, it is doubtful!

Any help in locating all-natural FBBers to picture on this thread (past and present!) will be greatly appreciated!
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: DIVISION on August 24, 2005, 12:55:26 PM
However, as much as I admire the great Kay Baxter and the immortal Cory Everson...when one considers their associations with Don Ross, Dr. John Gourgott, and Jeff Everson, it is doubtful!

As much as I love Cory Everson.......she was not natural.

Her face changed over time.....she was still attractive, but that androgens did manifest themselves.  Nothing like we see today with the female bodybuilders who could pass for men in some cases, but still I can see the subtle differences between a woman who uses and one who doesn't.





DIV
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Jodi on August 24, 2005, 04:27:16 PM
Cory Everson and Sharon Bruneau both presented stunning physiques definitely, but at the time, I was totally in the dark about steroids.  I thought it was something only guys did, and only really, really big guys...lol!  I was naive!

Tanji Johnson's name comes to mind when discussing natural competitors.  She too is someone who has a very diverse competitive background.
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: DIVISION on August 24, 2005, 04:52:33 PM
Cory Everson and Sharon Bruneau both presented stunning physiques definitely, but at the time, I was totally in the dark about steroids.  I thought it was something only guys did, and only really, really big guys...lol!  I was naive!

It's a gray area, Jodi.

Some women respond "strongly" to mild steroids while others need something "heavier" to get the same effect.  It all comes back to one fundamental principal:  When a woman takes a male hormone, the body responds with both desireable and undesirable sides.






DIV
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Richard2004 on August 24, 2005, 09:38:57 PM
Jodi, thanks for the "heads-up" on all-natural FBBer, Fitness and Figure champion, TANJI JOHNSON, pictured below...

If possible Jodi, please pass on some other names of all-natural FBBers to "showcase" on this thread (as I am running out), and hopefully inspire other women to see what can be realistically achieved through natural bodybuilding!

(http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/tanji5a.jpg)

(http://www.carmengarcia.com/news/images/tanji_johnson/images/tanji_03.jpg)

(http://www.craigproductions.com/archives/ECpics01/TanjiJohnsonFG_twx.jpg)

(http://www.northwestbodybuilding.net/Images/tanji3small.jpg)

(http://www.fitsights.com/competitions/results/olympia2002/graphics/olympiaexpo39.jpg)






Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Richard2004 on August 24, 2005, 09:52:13 PM
It's a gray area, Jodi.

Some women respond "strongly" to mild steroids while others need something "heavier" to get the same effect.  It all comes back to one fundamental principal:  When a woman takes a male hormone, the body responds with both desireable and undesirable sides.
DIV

Damn Div, that's the whole problem isn't it!!  In other words, that it is such a gray area with all the gear taking women exhibiting various degrees of virilization, and us guys arguing/debating around in ever-wider-circles, ad-inifinitum, as to just which FBBer has "crossed-the-virilization-line" and looks "too masculine"!

Thank God for totally drug-free FBBers like Jodi, Rhonda, Tanji, etc., to show women that they can have a fantastic figure, far above average strength, and achieve this SOLELY through all-natural, intelligent weight-training/diet/self-discipline!!
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: DIVISION on August 25, 2005, 02:12:54 AM
Damn Div, that's the whole problem isn't it!!  In other words, that it is such a gray area with all the gear taking women exhibiting various degrees of virilization, and us guys arguing/debating around in ever-wider-circles, ad-inifinitum, as to just which FBBer has "crossed-the-virilization-line" and looks "too masculine"!

Thank God for totally drug-free FBBers like Jodi, Rhonda, Tanji, etc., to show women that they can have a fantastic figure, far above average strength, and achieve this SOLELY through all-natural, intelligent weight-training/diet/self-discipline!!

To some degree, virilization is in the eye of the beholder, based on how well the female can mask the flaws.  However, some things are obvious and stand out regardless.  In actuality, it's up the guy as to what he finds attractive......some just like more masculine looking females (Hillary Swank), while others prefer pure satin (Vida Guerra).

It's amazing how similiar Jodi and Tanji's physiques look......Jodi is the vanilla version, Tanji is the cocoa.  There's something "pure" about a woman keeping all her femmenine assets while building dense muscle to complement it.  The best of both worlds you might say.  I'm sure it's alot harder to maintain, but they will come to appreciate it later...





DIV
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: missjade on August 25, 2005, 10:01:28 AM
Someone mentioned Kay Baxter and Tina Plakinger as allegedly having used.  Kay admitted in an interview with Strength Training for Health & Beauty (I miss that mag!) that she did use steroids but was clean for either the '86 or '87 Olympia.  Tina Plakinger did an interview with the National Enquirer of all magazines where she admitted to having used hgh and steroids, but stopped and quit bodybuilding.  This was also way back in the '80s.
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: The True Adonis on August 25, 2005, 10:04:39 AM
HAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHHHAHA H

REMEMBER FOLKS,  ITS ALL GENETICS AND DRUGS DON`T HAVE MUCH BEARING. HAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA



FUCKING CLOWNS.
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: DIVISION on August 25, 2005, 10:07:06 AM
HAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHHHAHAH
REMEMBER FOLKS,  ITS ALL GENETICS AND DRUGS DON`T HAVE MUCH BEARING. HAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
FUCKING CLOWNS.

Adonis......I found your niche' and it ain't Hillary Swank..... :P





DIV
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Mars on August 25, 2005, 10:07:38 AM
What is he thinking?
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: DIVISION on August 25, 2005, 10:18:55 AM
What is he thinking?

I think he wants Mar's bar......





DIV
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Richard2004 on August 25, 2005, 03:52:37 PM
Well, I see True Adonis has gone and "polluted" this thread!

Oh well...getting back to arguably ALL-NATURAL FBBers, one outstanding candidate would be the "immortal" RACHEL McLISH, Ms. Olympia 1980 and 1982.  Because of Rachel's professed religious convictions, I think she can be safely assumed to be an all-natural female bodybuilder?!...

(http://www.all-pictures-photos.com/images/rachel-mclish/rachel-mclish-003-img.jpg)

(http://www.bodybuildbid.com/articles/msolympia/imgs/mclish/mclish.jpg)

(http://www.bodybuildbid.com/articles/msolympia/imgs/mclish/mclish9.jpg)

(http://www.fitplus.cz/allpic/mf/f_34.jpg)

(http://www.bodybuildbid.com/articles/msolympia/imgs/mclish/mclish4.jpg)

(http://www.msfitness.com/mfmpages/1997/mfmWI97.jpg)

(http://www.all-pictures-photos.com/images/rachel-mclish/rachel-mclish-009-img.jpg)
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: DIVISION on August 25, 2005, 04:39:54 PM

I had no idea "the Dish" was a religious zealot.

What's up, Richie Rich?

Speak.





DIV
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: The True Adonis on August 25, 2005, 04:47:46 PM
What a fine collection of stinky Hoo-Ha`s.
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Max_Rep on August 25, 2005, 04:51:30 PM

Because of Rachel's professed religious convictions, I think she can be safely assumed to be an all-natural female bodybuilder?!... [/b]


This is not meant to disrespect Rachel because I talked to her often in the Gym, shared a few meals and hung out with her at a night club. Yes she was probably natural in terms of bodybuilding drugs but the above statement is just flat out naive.
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Hedgehog on August 25, 2005, 04:54:31 PM
This is not meant to disrespect Rachel because I talked to her often in the Gym, shared a few meals and hung out with her at a night club. Yes she was probably natural in terms of bodybuilding drugs but the above statement is just flat out naive.

Hung with her.

Elaborate, if you will.

That must've been fan. tas. tic.

YIP
Zack
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: DIVISION on August 25, 2005, 04:55:41 PM
What a fine collection of stinky Hoo-Ha`s.

Not everyone can be swanky like Hillary...... ::)

She's already got the man-face headstart!   :D

Hung with her.

Elaborate, if you will.

That must've been fan. tas. tic.

No, he didn't get to fuck her, Zachariah..... ::)

Damn you're predictable.....




DIV
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Hedgehog on August 25, 2005, 05:30:38 PM
No, he didn't get to f**k her, Zachariah..... ::)

Damn you're predictable.....

DIV

A man must be allowed to dream.

And that slinky workout outfit she no doubt must've used during her workouts... There's probably lots to be told about that.

YIP
Zack
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Richard2004 on August 25, 2005, 07:04:39 PM
I had no idea "the Dish" was a religious zealot.
What's up, Richie Rich?
Speak.
Diiv

Well, I've only spoken with Rachel on one occasion, the '84 Olympia in Montreal. 

However, I have read about, and heard her discuss, her Christian convictions.  Whether these convictions had anything to do with her apparent "all-natural" choice in pro. BB, during her career, is only an assumption!

Max, thanks for the input! 
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: MiniMike on August 25, 2005, 08:32:14 PM
All-natural FBBER and NPC national-level Figure competitor, 26 year-old NIKKI WARNER...WOW!

She's one of the hottest female bodybuilder/figure competitors I've ever seen, until she takes her top off. Why did she have to get such a horrible boob job? I'm sure she looked amazing before the implants and they were totally unnecessary.

For those of you who haven't seen her topless, it looks like the doctor used a rusty spoon around the nipples and then took some barbwire to stitch her back up. No offense meant to Nikki, I think everything about her is perfect, except for her breasts. That doctor who did those needs to be hung.

Jodi proves you don't have to have implants to look amazing, just keep it natural.
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Max_Rep on August 25, 2005, 09:25:15 PM
Hung with her.

Elaborate, if you will.

That must've been fan. tas. tic.

 

Yes it was fan tas tic. It means dinner, jokes dancing and fun. She was dating Ray Mentzer at the time, he was a friend, he was away. She wanted to get out of the house. It was Pete Seigal, Rachel and myself.  No I didn’t even try, Ray was a friend and 270. 

quote author=Richard2004 link=topic=36194.msg589328#msg589328 date=1125021879]

Well, I've only spoken with Rachel on one occasion, the '84 Olympia in Montreal. 

However, I have read about, and heard her discuss, her Christian convictions.  Whether these convictions had anything to do with her apparent "all-natural" choice in pro. BB, during her career, is only an assumption!
 
Quote

As far as I know Rachel did not take any BODYBUILDING drugs. There was a time when she was struggling between a Christian life and a bodybuilding/party life. I think she finally made a choice after time for the Christian lifestyle but fought some personal demons along the way. She is/was a great person  (I haven’t seen or talked to her in over 20 years). Let's just leave it at that. 
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: DIVISION on August 25, 2005, 11:50:54 PM
As far as I know Rachel did not take any BODYBUILDING drugs. There was a time when she was struggling between a Christian life and a bodybuilding/party life. I think she finally made a choice after time for the Christian lifestyle but fought some personal demons along the way. She is/was a great person  (I haven’t seen or talked to her in over 20 years). Let's just leave it at that.

I knew there was more to it, Max.....

Apparently some dishes take longer to cook than others.......Rachel was conflicted, hopefully she's made her choice.






DIV
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Richard2004 on August 27, 2005, 03:15:47 PM
Since it is so difficult to find photos of FBBers who are are all-natural nowadays, we often have to go back to the "golden age of female bodybuilding" (early to mid-1980's) to locate pics. of all-natural FBBers.

One such golden age FBBer, who would definitely qualify as "all-natural", would be GEORGIA FUDGE, who was very popular in the fledging "sport"/lifestyle in the early 1980's.  Georgia competed in four Ms. Olympia contests (1980-83), and her highest placing was fifth in the 1981 Ms. Olympia contest...

(http://www.wpw.net/wpwclubs/0-intros/gfudge/intro/images/Georgia1.011s.jpg)

(http://www.wpw.net/wpwclubs/0-intros/gfudge/club01/images/Georgia1.019b.jpg)

(http://www.wpw.net/wpwclubs/0-intros/gfudge/club02/images/Georgia2.009b.jpg)



Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Hedgehog on August 27, 2005, 04:53:20 PM
Since it is so difficult to find photos of FBBers who are are all-natural nowadays, we often have to go back to the "golden age of female bodybuilding" (early to mid-1980's) to locate pics. of all-natural FBBers.

One such golden age FBBer, who would definitely qualify as "all-natural", would be GEORGIA FUDGE, who was very popular in the fledging "sport"/lifestyle in the early 1980's.  Georgia competed in four Ms. Olympia contests (1980-83), and her highest placing was fifth in the 1981 Ms. Olympia contest...

(http://www.wpw.net/wpwclubs/0-intros/gfudge/intro/images/Georgia1.011s.jpg)

(http://www.wpw.net/wpwclubs/0-intros/gfudge/club01/images/Georgia1.019b.jpg)

(http://www.wpw.net/wpwclubs/0-intros/gfudge/club02/images/Georgia2.009b.jpg)


Fudge?

Too easy... ;D

Awesome physique though, very impressive frame on her, real wide and with tiny joints, crazy genetics.

Nasty ass shoulders, sorta like Jer-A-my Freeman, Platinum Freezer Man.

YIP
Zack
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: sarcasm on August 27, 2005, 04:55:38 PM
she looks kinky, too bad i was only 11 in '83 i would have slipped the meat to her.
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Jodi on August 28, 2005, 09:49:59 PM
(http://www.jeanettefreed.com/images/gallery/bg16.jpg)

Courtesy of Jeanette Freed's site (new IFBB pro figure competitor).

Nikki Warner, Cindy Martinez, me, and Jeanette Freed backstage at the Junior Nationals this year in Chicago.  More of what hard work, years of dedication, and comraderie can bring to the physique and to the stage.  By the way, both Cindy and Jeanette are mothers!
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Slippedisc on August 28, 2005, 09:51:50 PM
who's the guy on the left?
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: 240 or bust on August 28, 2005, 09:53:53 PM
who's the guy on the left?

I dunno, but he did finish 15th at Nationals...
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Richard2004 on August 29, 2005, 01:26:59 PM
Here's another of the rare, vanishing, breed of ALL-NATURAL female bodybuilders: KIKE ELOMAA, 1981 Ms. Olympia, who beat out Rachel McLish (no less!) that year...

(http://members.chello.nl/~k.vanderhoeven/jdlpic/Kike.jpeg)

(http://www.kikeelomaa.com/Kuvat/kike_etusivu_2.jpg)

(http://www.bodybuildbid.com/articles/msolympia/imgs/elomaa/eloma2.jpg)

(http://www.ohjelmanaiset.fi/show/kikeelomaa/kikeelomaa.jpg)

(http://mobilekustannus.fi/site/kuvat/189.jpg)

(http://www.bodybuildbid.com/articles/msolympia/imgs/elomaa/eloma1.jpg)

(http://www.bodybuildbid.com/articles/msolympia/imgs/elomaa/eloma6.jpg)

(http://www.bodybuildbid.com/articles/msolympia/imgs/elomaa/eloma5.jpg)

(http://www.bodybuildbid.com/articles/msolympia/imgs/elomaa/eloma4.jpg)

(http://www.bodybuildbid.com/articles/msolympia/imgs/elomaa/eloma3.jpg)

Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Richard2004 on August 29, 2005, 01:40:50 PM
(http://www.jeanettefreed.com/images/gallery/bg16.jpg)

Courtesy of Jeanette Freed's site (new IFBB pro figure competitor).

Nikki Warner, Cindy Martinez, me, and Jeanette Freed backstage at the Junior Nationals this year in Chicago.  More of what hard work, years of dedication, and comraderie can bring to the physique and to the stage.  By the way, both Cindy and Jeanette are mothers!

WOW, JODI, WOW!!!   Thanks for the pics. and the inspirational message!!
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: SolDat on August 29, 2005, 01:57:40 PM
Ow!! What the hell is wrong with her foot!!

(http://members.chello.nl/~k.vanderhoeven/jdlpic/Kike.jpeg)
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Richard2004 on August 31, 2005, 12:24:01 PM
Jodi, thanks for the "heads-up" on all-natural NPC Figure competitor, and mother, Jeanette Freed.  So, below is Isaac Hinds interview with Jeanette (and some more pics.).  Quite an accomplished woman!

Isaac Hinds interview of Jeanette...

If you didn't know any better you might think she's been competing for years. She has great stage presence, an incredible physique and a smile that will light up any room. Who dat? Well that would be the New Yorker taking the figure stages by storm this year, Jeanette Freed.

Consistently at the top of every show she's been in Jeanette is still on the hunt for the waskily lil pro card. Yes, yes that was my Elmer Fudd voice. Don't worry your little heads kids, cause this woman is a class act. She's had a few disappointments, but you won't hear her complaining about it. Enough of my ramblings, let's get to know a bit about Jeanette.

[ Q ] Name:
Jeanette Freed
[ Q ] Nickname:
Jeany
[ Q ] Currently live in:
Brooklyn, NY
[ Q ] Always been a New Yorker?
Yes
[ Q ] Who/what is Dolphin Fitness?
Dolphin Fitness is large chain of health clubs throughout the New York Metropolitan area owned by a former pro football athlete, Andrew Carino. His gyms have everything you could possibly need to work out and most of them are open 24 hours which is a plus for me since I have a crazy schedule.
[ Q ] You've only been competing for 2 years ? what? Are you for real?
My first show was last year in March 2003 at the New York Mets. I placed 2nd and I was addicted ever since.
[ Q ] That's awesome... how did you get into competing in NPC Figure?
I went to see a few shows run by Bev Francis and Steve Weinberger in NY. I thought "wow" these girls look great and their so disciplined. My brother Pete was with me and he kept on encouraging me to try to compete in one the local shows.
I wanted to but kept making excuses because I didn't know how to train for the show or how to diet for it. I was already in pretty good shape and worked out occasionally so one day I pulled out a competition diet from Oxygen, stuck to it religiosly for 7 weeks, trained myself intensely and finally got my butt up on that stage. Till today that has been the most rewarding show for me. I stuck to something and actually finished it. That was my goal and to have placed 2nd was just icing on the cake for me.
[ Q ] You competed in a number of shows this past year always placing high, what was your favorite show from 2004?
Well I guess I answered that question already but I have to say all the shows have been a learning experience for me. I always see how my body changes and what I could do to improve for the next show. I really enjoyed competing in Chicago. I met so many nice and interesting girls backstage and the show ran so smoothly.
[ Q ] Do you find it difficult to hold your conditioning throughout the year and doing so many shows?
Because I have done 8 shows in 17 months, it feels like I've been dieting most of that time. I have stayed close to my competition weight most of the time. I am looking forward to the off-season where I can really make the improvements I need too. It's hard to make improvements when you're always getting ready for a show.
[ Q ] Okay, so everyone wants to know... what's your thoughts on Figure Nationals and coming up one place shy of a pro card?
In Chicago I came up one place shy of a pro card so I was familiar with the feeling. I was just so happy to place the way I did in that show. In New York however I honestly have to say that I was confused and disappointed. I never go into a show expecting to win, I just have faith that all my hard work and dedication will pay off and I'll get the placing I deserve.
However, I'm also a big believer in that everything happens for a reason. It wasn't my time and I have to look at the whole picture. I have had an incredible year and have been blessed with the ability to compete and do very well.

There are victories in your life and their are disappointments, you just have to take them both in stride. The important lesson is that you don't let the disappointments kill your dreams and aspirations. They should make you stronger; not weaker.

[ Q ] Many people at the show and on the message boards thought you got royally hosed on placing 3rd at this year's Figure Nationals. Now that the show has come and gone, what's your thoughts on how it went?
It really means a lot to me that so many people had such positive input . It helps so much to hear and get e-mails from other competitors, photographers and friends showing me support and taking time out just to tell me to keep my head up. That's more than I ever expected. Thanks everyone.
[ Q ] What's the next show on the horizon?
Believe it or not I am doing the North Americans next week, September 4th, in Ohio. I figured it's the last show of the year and I'm already in competition form. You can't knock me down that easily.
[ Q ] How long have you been training with John Scoma?
I have been training with John since May 2003. I have to say he is an incredible trainer, motivator and friend. He gives me that extra push I need at times and has helped me believe in myself as a competitor. He also kicks my butt in the gym.
[ Q ] You have a 3 year old daughter, right?
Yes, Briana, she is the best thing that has ever happened to me.
[ Q ] What do you do in your spare time when you're not competing?
I train, take care of my daughter, cook a lot of healthy meals for my husband and I and try to enjoy and be grateful for my beautiful family.
[ Q ] What do you have to say to the women out there who say they can't compete or even train for that matter, because they have a lil one?
I have to say, "Don't ever rule anything out" Prioritze your time and try not to make excuses. If you really want something you can attain it with faith, hard work and dedication. Good things don't always come easy but they sure are rewarding.
[ Q ] As many of the people reading this would certainly agree, you're a beautiful woman. Have you done any modeling?
This is all new to me. I would love to do some modeling.
[ Q ] The bigger question all the boys want to know... are you available?
I am married to a very supportive man. His name is Evan and he is very excited about how competing is going for me. He thinks it's great that I'm so happy and motivated by it.
[ Q ] Sorry for the side track, had to make sure all the lads out there knew not to get their hopes up.
That's very flattering, thanks.
[ Q ] Did you get your Cinnamon rolls after your last show? ;)
Absolutely, not to mention I also had pizza and chocolate cake.
[ Q ] Silliest thing you've been asked or told from someone online?
Not online but guys will ask, "Excuse me but do you workout."
[ Q ] What are you going to be working on before your next competition? Goals for the next year?
Working on developing my hamstrings and shoulders, competing, modeling, getting endorsed and enjoying all of it.
[ Q ] Aside from Dolphin Fitness are you sponsored by anyone?
No, but I would love to be. Ha Ha.
[ Q ] Web site?
Definitely have to work on that this year as well.
[ Q ] Thanks so much Jeanette! Anything else you'd like to share?
Thanks you for taking the time out to interview me and I look forward to great things happening in 2005. Thanks everyone that has e-mailed me and God Bless.

Thanks again and best wishes to you and your family. Kick some booty at your next show and we'll all be routing for you to be on the Figure Pro stage soon.

(http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/isaac32fbig.jpg)

(http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/isaac32cbig.jpg)

(http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/isaac32abig.jpg)

Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Richard2004 on September 01, 2005, 11:36:43 AM
Another FBBer who qualifies as an ALL-NATURAL weight-trained woman is the stunning Italian fitness model FEDERICA BELLI...

(http://www.billdobbins.com/PUBLIC/pages/coolfree/International_Fitness/images/Federica_Belli_jpg.jpg)

(http://figura.kaluga.com/modules/4images/data/media/7/Federica-Belli3.jpg)

(http://www.emusclemag.com/content/mmi278/fBelli_top.jpg)

(http://www.emusclemag.com/content/mmi278/fBelli_btm.jpg)

(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a266/richard2004/FedericaBelli_1.jpg)

(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a266/richard2004/FedericaBelli_2.jpg)

(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a266/richard2004/FedericaBelli_3.jpg)

(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a266/richard2004/FredericaBelliGl_2.jpg)
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: JKDMan on September 01, 2005, 03:23:59 PM
How many pictures does this guy Richard have saved on his hard drive?  ??? You're out of control, bro.  ;D
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: MiniMike on September 01, 2005, 06:54:26 PM
How many pictures does this guy Richard have saved on his hard drive?  ??? You're out of control, bro.  ;D

Not very much, he's image leeching most of them from other websites.
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: DIVISION on September 01, 2005, 09:09:05 PM
Not very much, he's image leeching most of them from other websites.

True.

Richie Rich is known to jack a few IMG's here and there.....

That's what he does.......he's a teacher......they don't get paid much.   :-\





DIV
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Richard2004 on September 03, 2005, 09:21:07 PM
Natural FBBer and former Playboy mag. "Playmate" REBEKKA ARMSTRONG...

(http://www.wpw.net/wpwclubs/0-intros/rarmstrong/club01/images/ra.036b.jpg)
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Richard2004 on September 16, 2005, 02:04:37 PM
(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a266/richard2004/KatarinaVanDerham_1.jpg)

Get In Great Shape: Fitness Model Katarina Van Derham reveals her diet and how she stays in shape year-round.

Katarina Van Derham isn’t your average California blonde. In fact, she’s not Californian at all. Hailing from Slovakia, this blonde beauty embodies the fitness lifestyle and it is easy to see how she has maintained her figure and her aesthetic appeal.With an accent that screams intrigue, espionage and all things Bond-girl, this magnificent Slovakian creature came to the U.S. just six short years ago to do what most people from foreign countries always want to do: Live the American dream. And live it she has.

Within just a few months she secured her first television commercial for Coors Light Beer. This was all the more admirable because, like most from her corner of the world, she spoke very little English and had to learn as she went.Van Derham realized her dream of traveling to the U.S. after reading an article in a Slovakian magazine she came across several years back. “I remember reading not about L.A., but about a small city called Santa Monica. It said that the sun shone all year ‘round there, and that the people who lived there were all happy and positive,” Van Derham says. “Besides, I also knew that fitness star Timea Majorova had moved to Southern California and I was eager for the same kind of life. My dad is a big fan of hers and she’s very popular and famous in my country.” Within mere months of arriving, she established a modeling career. She won the Coors Light stint after just two months of modeling professionally. Shortly thereafter, Van Derham secured a spot as a Bacardi Rum girl — a position that allowed her to travel as a model/spokeswoman and represent the liquor brand nationwide.When asked if she’s seen the lofty heights of billboard-dom yet, she laughs. “Unfortunately, no, but I was officially a life-sized cardboard stand-up!”Katarina enjoys life in L.A., just as she knew she would. But then, life in L.A. was hardly a lateral move. What does she like best about the land of sunshine, fruits and nuts? West Hollywood dance clubs, shopping (who doesn’t?), the ocean and, well, Starbucks!“I love everything about California and the United States, really.

The weather, the opportunities, American men and the pastime of having coffee or tea with friends.”“All in all, I feel I’ve adapted to life here very well. And while many other people complain about driving in L.A., it’s one of my favorite things to do! I just love cars, traveling and fast-paced life!” exclaims the stunner.Keeping up with Van Derham is no easy task. She has endless energy and is always on the move. This, no doubt, helps her retain her fantastic figure. However, she does admit to working at her diet and taking the time to train often. Even the genetically blessed have to ensure that they maintain all that beauty.Katarina’s DietTo stay in shape, Van Derham is diligent about her diet.“I’ve been a vegetarian for about ten years now, though I do eat salmon about 4 to 5 times a week, so my diet has been good for a long time,” Van Derham says.

Van Derham recognizes the importance of taking in the omega 6 fatty acids found in salmon. Not only do these good fats keep her metabolism healthy, they also give her skin and hair a healthy glow.Supplementation for a vegetarian is extremely important. Taking in quality protein powders and amino acids to support muscle growth and repair helps her body stay in shape year round for photoshoots and appearances.Keeping a careful watch on her diet, Van Derham eats multiple small meals a day, often four to five. Each meal contains a good balance of protein, carbohydrates and fats to support her body’s nutritional needs.Training To Stay FitThe 20-something beauty doesn’t have much of a problem staying fit because she embodies the entire fitness lifestyle — she can’t get enough, in fact. And while many pay lip service to the fact that consistency is everything, Van Derham actually is consistent.

Training between two to four times weekly, she goes to the gym based on what’s currently on her agenda, and tries to use instinct to guide her. It really depends on how her body feels on any particular day.Her workout includes a ten-minute warm-up, followed by a full body workout that is circuit training-style and a cardio session of between 45 minutes and one hour on a stair stepper or cardio slide. She is religious about getting in her cardio so that she maintains her lean physique.Because she trains her entire body in one workout, she likes to mix things up in terms of the exercises she chooses each time, as well as which body parts she begins and ends with. This keeps her body from adapting to what she does to it and helps garner her better results.Katarina prefers to keep her weights light and repetitions high to avoid excess bulk and to just concentrate on getting lean definition.

One thing’s for sure though, the gym is definitely her temple.“My workouts are my haven from the stress of my day,” Van Derham says. “I go into the gym one person and come out a much more relaxed version. It’s my therapy.”

To learn more about Katarina Van Derham, visit her website www.katarinamodel.com.Lo ok for Katarina’s premier calendar, in limited edition, on her website soon!    
         
   
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: JKDMan on September 17, 2005, 12:21:44 AM
Quote
To learn more about Katarina Van Derham, visit her website www.katarinamodel.com.Lo ok for Katarina’s premier calendar, in limited edition, on her website soon!   
Ok, we're not seriously considering this Katarina chic a bodybuilder, are we Richard? She's attractive (in a cookie-cutter Barbie/Playboy kind of way), but she has no discernable muscle to her "physique". She is a bodybuilder because she tries to eat right, take her vitamins, and works out occasionally?  ::)
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: DIVISION on September 17, 2005, 07:32:32 AM
Ok, we're not seriously considering this Katarina chic a bodybuilder, are we Richard? She's attractive (in a cookie-cutter Barbie/Playboy kind of way), but she has no discernable muscle to her "physique". She is a bodybuilder because she tries to eat right, take her vitamins, and works out occasionally?  ::)

Richard decides the criteria.....

It's his thread.

What he says.........goes.






DIV
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: JKDMan on September 17, 2005, 09:23:32 AM
Richard decides the criteria.....

It's his thread.

What he says.........goes.






DIV
Perhaps it goes for Richard, but not for me. I had to check him on this one. I am willing to stretch the definition of a bodybuilder pretty far, but show me a little bulge in the bicep, a slight curve to quads...Something other than just a pair of tight glutes, although those are quite nice.  ;D
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: gli_ya on September 17, 2005, 12:27:39 PM
I don't mind a chick with a big nose as long as she knows where to stick it... ;D
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Richard2004 on September 19, 2005, 09:56:23 AM
Ok, we're not seriously considering this Katarina chic a bodybuilder, are we Richard? She's attractive (in a cookie-cutter Barbie/Playboy kind of way), but she has no discernable muscle to her "physique". She is a bodybuilder because she tries to eat right, take her vitamins, and works out occasionally?  ::)

Richard decides the criteria.....
It's his thread.
What he says.........goes.

Perhaps it goes for Richard, but not for me. I had to check him on this one. I am willing to stretch the definition of a bodybuilder pretty far, but show me a little bulge in the bicep, a slight curve to quads...Something other than just a pair of tight glutes, although those are quite nice.  ;D

Gee gollies, guys, I guess in this day-and-age with everything from “female” breast-augmented bimbos, transvestites, transsexuals, and “juiced she-he’s”…all running loose…well, things can get “confusing” from time-to-time!?

Anyway, let’s get back to BASICS...

"Bodybuilding" (by definition)-a bodybuilder is ANYONE who lifts weights (free-weight, or machine-resistance, exercise equipment) for the purpose of developing their body-functionally and/or aesthetically. 

This definition would, of course, include all competitive figure/fitness/BB/athletic women, as well as the “recreational bodybuilders”, who do not compete, but just want to improve their appearance/health/strength/athletic-ability through intelligent weight-training (such as populate your local health clubs-or train at home-around the world)!!  Right??!

More "interesting" pics. of recreational FBBer KATARINA VAN DERHAM...

(http://www.xposed.com/media/pictorials/6988/0.jpg)

(http://www.xposed.com/media/pictorials/6988/1.jpg)

(http://www.xposed.com/media/pictorials/6988/3.jpg)

(http://www.xposed.com/media/pictorials/6988/6.jpg)
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: billycarp on September 19, 2005, 10:33:43 AM
One bullshit would have sufficed, RockinAR.

I've been tempted too.  I've had trainers, fellow competitors, and various men in this industry trying to convince me that anavar, Growth, primo, and a multitude of other "supplements" would do me a world of good.  I thought long and hard about the pros and cons of taking steroids and of remaining natural.  I chose to remain natural and I'd be happy to state the long list of reasons as to why.  I have busted my ass in the gym for 15 years to gain the type of muscularity you see in my physique.  In fact, I trained from the time I was 18 to the time I was 26 before ever "dieting down" for a show.  Pete Grubbs, who works with Tanji Johnson, helped me with my nutrition this year, and I told him expressly...no ephedra, no diuretics (not even over the counter), no drugs.  I wanted to do this the way I knew it could be done, the way it should be done.  I wanted other women to see what can happen when you put balls to the wall, throw everything you have into the workouts, follow the diet, discuss things openly with the person helping you with your diet and your training, and don't fall prey to what is the popular method at the given time.

I have personally seen girls faces change in the last two to three years...I do mean in person, right before my eyes.  Every single time I thought about what a bit of anavar could do for me (judges were telling me I was too tiny...in figure, mind you), I clicked on these very same girls' sites and compared their photos from two and three years ago to now.  The changes scared me every single time I pointed my mouse to their websites.  It was all I needed to say no.  Meet me in person, RockinAR.  Say to my face what you said on here, and you'll get a piece of my mind even more bluntly.  I have been very outspoken about my opinion of gear use in this industry amongst the women and will continue to be whenever someone will take the time to listen to me.

I can totally relate to this as my GF deals with this all the time.

Any women with any muscle is always going to be accused of using.

My GF has incredible genetics for building muscle mass and is naturally very lean.  She basically trains for fun, but I finally convinced her to do her first contest (Pacific USA Naturals in  Anaheim, CA) which she won BTW.  She is not big by any stretch, but carries her muscle well.

Here is a shot from the show:

http://www.graphicmuscle.com/Lindsay/viewphoto.aspx?photocode=18349
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: LAMA-PAI on September 20, 2005, 08:36:40 AM
looks like a crack head to me  ::)
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: billycarp on September 20, 2005, 10:37:21 AM
looks like a crack head to me  ::)

Actually, it is more of a free-base issue.
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: SEEINDOUBLE on September 20, 2005, 01:36:30 PM
Did someone say freebase!!!   ;D  LOL
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Richard2004 on September 22, 2005, 01:26:10 PM
Here is an IFBB pro. competitive FBBer who claims to be "all-natural"...a 45 year-old mother of two children (!) PEGGY SCHOOLCRAFT. 

A brief "bio." (and photos) of Peggy follow...


I have prepared all of my life for this moment.

Being a drug free athlete and bodybuilding competitor. I regulary faced challengers who used steroids and other perfomance enhancing drugs.

Even though I won many titles and always finished "in the money", I was frustrated by the reputation that those in my industry were portraying.

As a trained nutritionist, I have always treated my body with great care and crusaded against drugs of all sorts. Finally, with Americans becoming more health conscious, the fitness and bodybuilding industry has been forced to "join the 90's". More and more fitness and bodybuilding events are "drug free", with participants meeting very strict IOC standards. More and more health food and supplement manufacturers are withholding support from events that are not drug tested.

It was in this environment that I decided at 37, married with two children, to go back to training and into competition.

The Team Universe competition, held in New York City, is the largest drug tested event in the United States.

On August 16, 1997, I pulled off the unthinkable when as a lightweight I won the Team Universe overall championship in a walk. On October 19 and 20, 1997, I represented the United States and the N.P.C. at the IFBB World Amateur Bodybuilding Championships held in Bratislava, Slovakia, the largest and most prestigious event in the field, and a drug tested competition.

I again unanimously won the lightweight (52 kg) class, becoming the first United States Women's World Champion in many years. With this win and accompanying new title...IFBB Pro...many new oppertunities await me. I look forward to bringing the same condition to the pros stage as I did as an amateur.

Finally and most importantly, there is a huge untapped market of middle aged women and mothers, "thirtysomething"..."married with children", like me, who given the choice, the motivation and the products, can hone their bodies inside and out, like never before.

The millions of women on their treadmills and stairmasters daily are searching for someone to relate to: "an inspirational guru."

Statistics:
Born: March 8, 1960

Hair: Blonde

Eyes: Blue

Height: 5' 0"

Weight: offseason 130, competition 127

Titles
1999, July 16 & 17; Jan Tana Classic (Pro Debut); Top 5 Finish

1998, Acadamy of Bodybuilding & Fitness Awards; Natural Bodybuilder of the Year

1997, October 19 & 20; IFBB Amateur; World Champion

1997, August 16; Team Universe; Overall Champion

1995, September 30; NPC Nationals; 3rd Place Middleweight Class

1994, October 22; NPC Nationals; 4th Place Lightweight Class

1992, October 3; NPC Nationals; Top 10 Lightweight Class

1992, April 11; Junior USA; Lightweight Champion

1991, July 12; Junior Nationals; "Weider" Best Poser Award

1990, July 13; Lehigh Valley National Qualifier; Lightweight Class Champion

1990, April 24; Ms. Southeastern Pennsylvania Regional; 1st Place Lightweight

1990, April 24; Ms. Southeastern Pennsylvania Regional; Overall Champion

1990, March 24; Ms. Delaware County; 1st Place Short Class and Overall Champion
 
PEGGY'S Photos:

Peggy on the right...
(http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/peggychangebig.jpg)

(http://www.amazonprofiles.net/peggyschoolcraft/01c.jpg)

(http://www.amazonprofiles.net/peggyschoolcraft/04c.jpg)


 
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Richard2004 on September 22, 2005, 02:00:01 PM
Here is another all-natural FBBer who is a tremendous credit to the "sport" of female bodybuilding as an entrepreneur, promoter, writer, and recreational BBer...LORI VICTORIA BRAUN...

Lori's photo and "bio." follow...


(http://bizcardpro.com/businesscard-proofs/00-Completed%20Jan-June1999/LoriBraun.jpg)

Biography of Lori Victoria Braun:
Lori Victoria Braun is the founder and owner of FemaleMuscle.com. FemaleMuscle.com is the largest bodybuilding site on the Internet measured by content, viewers, and page views. Lori started FemaleMuscle.com in December 1995, long before anybody in the bodybuilding world had any idea of the power and reach of the Internet. She invested a small sum of money saved from her days as a popular New York City fitness trainer and invested in the equipment and small staff needed to launch FemaleMuscle.com.

Today, FemaleMuscle.com is home to more than 75,000 pages of content, over 150,000 photographs, chat rooms, bulletin boards, and its unique Talk Live Program. Lori grew up on the streets of Brooklyn and is a graduate of the University of Florida.

A natural bodybuilder who preaches the benefits of consistent balanced training, meticulous nutrition, and a drug free lifestyle. She is also a martial artist and directs the overall editorial and creative balance that has made FemaleMuscle.com an Internet success. She has appeared on numerous national entertainment and news shows, has been covered extensively by the print media, and has been the subject of many photographic collections by the top bodybuilding photographers in the industry.Lori plans to expand both the audiences and content of FemaleMuscle.com so that it becomes an Internet brand recognized by fitness and bodybuilding enthusiasts and the general public.

Lori's mission is no less than to make every woman and man who visits her sites stronger, healthier, and happier and to realize that everyone can reach their personal fitness and life goals and that there are no boundaries other than those that we place upon ourselves.
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: billycarp on September 22, 2005, 02:31:49 PM
Here is an IFBB pro. competitive FBBer who claims to be "all-natural"...a 45 year-old mother of two children (!) PEGGY SCHOOLCRAFT. 


I'm guessing "natural" Vs. "artificial"  :o
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Hedgehog on September 22, 2005, 03:01:22 PM
Hi, Richard!         ;)                       ;)                          ;)
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Nice try Buster.

But I ain't buying it.

YIP
Zack
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Richard2004 on September 23, 2005, 01:51:35 PM
Hi, Richard!         ;)                       ;)                          ;)
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Hey Meddy, how are things going in your personal and professional life?!  PM me!

By the way, finding web pics. of FBBers that are "all-natural" or rather "natural enough"...i.e. no AAS or GH...is like looking for a "needle in a haystack"!!

But, can you believe that Peggy Schoolcraft is an IFBB competitive pro. FBBer and claims to be a "natural FBB competitor"??!  I didn't know that there were any pro. FBBers (still remaining) that could honestly make that claim nowadays!??
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Richard2004 on October 21, 2005, 05:06:22 PM
Oh where, oh where, have you gone RHONDA DETHLEFS (i.e. the ALL-NATURAL FBBer)??!!...

(http://www.wpw.net/wpwclubs/0-intros/rdethlefs650/club01/images/rd1.056b.jpg)

(http://www.wpw.net/wpwclubs/0-intros/rdethlefs650/club02/images/rd2.006b.jpg)

(http://www.wpw.net/wpwclubs/0-intros/rdethlefs650/club03/images/rd3.009b.jpg)

(http://www.wpw.net/wpwclubs/0-intros/rdethlefs650/club04/images/rd4.023b.jpg)
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: DIVISION on October 22, 2005, 12:00:53 AM
(http://www.wpw.net/wpwclubs/0-intros/rdethlefs650/club01/images/rd1.056b.jpg)

Rhonda said her thighs would crush my head like a melon......

I said I'd pound her ass like a meat tenderizer.......

She's married, we can't find out.   :-\






DIV
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: INSOMNIA on October 22, 2005, 01:58:11 AM
Thank you Richard, for all the love...Im still around!  :-*

DIV, I am currently separated. But I dont know what that has to do with crushing your melon!  ;D
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: DIVISION on October 22, 2005, 02:06:45 AM
Thank you Richard, for all the love...Im still around!  :-*

DIV, I am currently separated. But I dont know what that has to do with crushing your melon!  ;D

You know exactly what I mean.........explicity and inherently, Rhonda.

It'd be interesting to see how strong you are though....




DIV



Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: INSOMNIA on October 22, 2005, 07:20:59 AM
You know exactly what I mean.........explicity and inherently, Rhonda.

It'd be interesting to see how strong you are though....




DIV





I did a workout vid with these guys...WPW. Check it out! www.wpw.net

"We did a full photo/video session with Rhonda early in 2005 and that 'off-season' session material has already been posted. Since then, Rhonda leaned down a little (with absolutely no loss in muscle size) in order to compete in the bodybuilding event of the 2005 Team Universe in August, when we did this new photo/video session with her,in top contest shape.

At 5'5" and a nicely defined 153 pounds, Rhonda had lots of size everywhere, including in particular, her tremendous arms, back and thighs (26"). After an incredible and long leg workout in the gym (featuring many sets of 20 reps with very heavy poundage for leg press, culminating in 7 reps at 1600 pounds..."

 8)

Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: DIVISION on October 22, 2005, 08:16:09 AM
At 5'5" and a nicely defined 153 pounds, Rhonda had lots of size everywhere, including in particular, her tremendous arms, back and thighs (26"). After an incredible and long leg workout in the gym (featuring many sets of 20 reps with very heavy poundage for leg press, culminating in 7 reps at 1600 pounds..."

Rhonda, that doesn't mean you'll crush my head like a melon..... ;D

I'm not like Tre, I actually fight back.....

I still say you get dominated and tenderized.




DIV

Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: DIVISION on October 22, 2005, 08:34:48 AM
LOL, you SIMPLETON, anyone armed with a sharp object can fight back; in fact, I could almost singlehandedly win a war with a blade like Excalibur in my grasp. The challenge is getting out of Rhonda's iron grasp when you awaken to find your head in her hellish bosom...  ;D

I wouldn't awaken to find my head in her bosom......it would be between her thighs.....

That's not all that bad though..... ;D




DIV
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: DIVISION on October 22, 2005, 08:49:52 AM
Oh really? In that scenario, would you be able to tell the difference between Rhonda and a dude if she didn't shave?  :o

I can't say..........but Rhonda doesn't shave so I'm good, holmes.

She has a landing strip or keeps the triangle somewhat normal.

Isn't this about the time when you start calling me a "mongrel" and telling me I will burn in the depths of hell?   ::)




DIV
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: DIVISION on October 22, 2005, 08:58:26 AM
LMAO, I was afraid your mind would go THAT way. I meant kept her thighs shaved, not her you know what. Why would a chick trying to kill you get nude just to finish you off? Ever watched Goldeneye? And as for the mongrel part, read Revelations to get a frightening glimpse into the future. But will the world listen and take heed?

eh Mr. U.........My mind is always THAT way.  I'm a  guy......we tend to think of women in that light.  Revelations seems like an exciting time in the life of man, perhaps we will get to see if the mark of the beast is actually real or just a bullshit theory.  Perhaps the "beast" will just be a cougar or a jackal......

I like Rhonda, she's a nice challenge.



DIV
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: INSOMNIA on October 22, 2005, 09:14:16 AM
LMAO, I was afraid your mind would go THAT way. I meant kept her thighs shaved, not her you know what. Why would a chick trying to kill you get nude just to finish you off? Ever watched Goldeneye? And as for the mongrel part, read Revelations to get a frightening glimpse into the future. But will the world listen and take heed?

 ???
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: DIVISION on October 22, 2005, 09:27:41 AM
???

I dont have one of "those"...sorry!!!  >:( 

Relax, Rhonda.....

We both know you're a sexy bitch.

Don't listen to him....




DIV
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: INSOMNIA on October 22, 2005, 09:45:13 AM
Uh-oh, Charles Benner in da house!!!   ;D   

 :-X

For your info, chuckie....I wont be needing that extra marraige proposal..as I am currently in no shortage of them!  :)

That "Big Daddy" shit creeps me out anyhow...makes me think of pedophiles!  >:(  >:(  >:(  :-X

Have a nice day!    :D
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Hedgehog on October 22, 2005, 09:54:46 AM
WHOA!!!

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>This thread is way out here.

Back up people..

Please.

Rich, a pic of INSOMNIA mayhaps?

YIP
Zack
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: DIVISION on October 22, 2005, 10:20:32 AM
Rich, a pic of INSOMNIA mayhaps?

We already saw her pics, Zachariah.

What's up?   ???




DIV
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Richard2004 on October 22, 2005, 10:45:51 AM
Thank you Richard, for all the love...Im still around!  :-*

DIV, I am currently separated. But I dont know what that has to do with crushing your melon!  ;D

Rhonda, believe me, we love you dearly in return!!  Like Jodi and Lori, you are truly a member of an apparent "vanishing breed' competing against the "druggies" on a very unlevel playing field! 

All-natural BB gals like you are our REAL heros...not the male pro. BB chemical monsters/freakazoids plastered, and idolized, in the BB mags!!

Rhonda, I believe the "melon incident" referred to the time that some poster made an "uncomplimentary remark" about your leg development in one of the earlier set of your pics. that either you, or I, posted.   Your reply was that your legs were strong/well-developed enough to crush his head like a melon!  Beautiful comeback!!

So sorry to hear about the separation, as I understand that you have children...been there...done that...and it is at times like these that working-out really helps reduce the stress level!

Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: suckmymuscle on October 22, 2005, 10:55:19 AM
If you know anything about the lifestyle, or "sport", of bodybuilding you know that the "sport" has been tainted with the use of all types of bodybuilding drugs such as androgenic/anabolic steroids, growth hormone, amphetamines, diuretics, insulin, thyroid, etc., all combined into monstrous drug stacks!  Why, even some crazed male bodybuilders inject synthol oil in their bodies to bloat up their muscles!??

These illegal drug-using, and bloated, male chemical monsters, and female “she-he’s”, represent the absolute antithesis of the healthy lifestyle that the pioneers of bodybuilding promoted!!  Sadly, bodybuilding is now ridiculed by the general public, and shunned by the major media (except for the usual negative press when yet another bodybuilder is arrested for selling illegal bodybuilding drugs).

In all of this absolute insanity, believe it or not, there are men and women who actually try to build their bodies through weight-training, NATURALLY, and try to live a healthy, DRUG-FREE, bodybuilding lifestyle?!! 

One such ALL-NATURAL female bodybuilder is JODI LEIGH MILLER!  Jodi has successfully competed in female fitness, figure, and bodybuilding competition.  In addition, Jodi has been an outstanding competitive powerlifter who, at a bodyweight of 110 lbs., and a height of 4’-11’’, squatted and deadlifted 2-1/2 times her bodyweight!!

To all of you girls and women out there reading this, Jodi is an excellent role model of what you can expect from intelligent progressive weight-training NATURALLY, combined with intelligent dieting, ALONE!!

An old Chinese proverb says that a picture is worth 1000 words!   So, here are “20,000 words” to describe the remarkable, beautiful, ALL-NATURAL, VERY FEMININE, body Jodi has developed through intelligent weight-training and dieting ALONE!   

(http://www.wpw.net/wpwclubs/0-intros/jmiller/intro/images/jm1.030s.jpg)

(http://www.wpw.net/wpwclubs/0-intros/jmiller/club01/images/jm1.004b.jpg)

(http://www.wpw.net/wpwclubs/0-intros/jmiller_2/intro/images/jm.011s.jpg)

(http://www.wpw.net/wpwclubs/0-intros/jmiller_2/club01/images/jm.006b.jpg)

(http://www.wpw.net/wpwclubs/0-intros/jmiller514/intro/images/jm2.023s.jpg)

(http://www.wpw.net/wpwclubs/0-intros/jmiller514/club01/images/jm1.002b.jpg)

(http://www.wpw.net/wpwclubs/0-intros/jmiller514/club02/images/jm2.022b.jpg)

(http://www.wpw.net/wpwclubs/0-intros/jmiller_3/intro/images/jm.017s.jpg)

(http://www.wpw.net/wpwclubs/0-intros/jmiller_3/club01/images/jm.015b.jpg)

(http://www.wpw.net/wpwclubs/0-intros/jmiller552/intro/images/jm3.013s.jpg)

(http://www.wpw.net/wpwclubs/0-intros/jmiller552/club01/images/jm1.010b.jpg)

(http://www.wpw.net/wpwclubs/0-intros/jmiller552/club03/images/jm3.029b.jpg)

(http://raymartin.net/rmclubs/0-intros/jmiller227/club01/images/jm.004b.jpg)

(http://www.strength-sports.org/female-bodybuilders/jodi-leigh-miller/jodi-leigh-miller-4.jpg)

(http://jodileigh.com/images/gallery/nafpliotis_f1/images/nafp1102h.jpg)

(http://jodileigh.com/images/gallery/nafpliotis_f1/images/nafp1102e.jpg)

(http://jodileigh.com/images/gallery/bowie_c2/images/P9220141.jpg)

(http://jodileigh.com/images/gallery/bowie_c2/images/P9220039.jpg)

(http://www.jodileigh.com/images/gallery/hwang_s1/images/18099.jpg)

(http://jodileigh.com/images/gallery/bowie_f2/images/P6020033.jpg)






  Personally, I think women shouldn't bodybuild at all. Muscularity is a masculine trait, so girls who increase their muscularity are becoming mannish. A women taking part in a bodybuilding contest, is almost as sad as a man who takes part of a beauty pageant.

  Look at successful female bodybuilders, like Lenda Murray, Kim Chizevsky or Vicky Gates. They look butcher than 90% of males out there. Are those women exalting themselves, by building huge muscles? No, they are becoming the butt of jokes, for the general public. If a 220 lbs, ripped-to-the-bone man is already considered to be freakish, by the public, then consider what they might think of a woman, in similar physical condition. Myself, I could never perform, sexually, with a woman like that.

  As for what is possible to be achieved, naturally...well, no one really knows, but it is certain that the average woman has a lower innate potential, for muscle growth, than the average man and that this remains true, for men vs women, across all levels of competition, from local amateur shows right up to the Olympia level.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Richard2004 on October 22, 2005, 11:03:06 AM
LMAO, tell me about it. I'm a Christian warrior battling the tide of sin and filth, each and every day, in this stinking cesspool that passes for modern society. That's what true courage and righteousness entail. No my friend, mongrels think that "way" you were speaking of. Human males are naturally filthy in their thinking and you know this as well as I do but REAL MEN OF GOD aspire to be God-like in everything they do, including what they allow in their minds. As you can see, the disparity between being a dog and being a Son of God is limitless - only a fool or a Devil-swayed chump will say otherwise. Instead of being like the norm, aspire to be in Christ and RISE ABOVE THE CROWD. Will you be a man and step up to the plate? Most fellas don't have the balls to do that; instead they sink back to wallow in their perverted desires, powerless to break free of the shackles keeping them prisoners to sin. If your mind is constantly set on denigrating your fellow humans (women) for the fulfillment of your most base and animal desires, then why should God spare you from the unspeakable torment of eternal damnation? And with regard to the Book of Revelations, the events foretold/prophesied WILL doubtless come to pass, as sure as the sun rises in the morning and sets in the evening, because the very same God is behind the unfailing mechanism of the sun and His written Word. A simple comparative investigation into Biblical facts (you should check out this website http://keyofdavid.com/Default.asp?siteMapId=Programs) and the realities of History and Science will reveal the Bible's authenticity in all its glory. The website I just gave you destroys every single one of your doubts, and so do many, many other free resources, but if you don't WANT to acknowledge the TRUTH, you will never arrive at the reality of things. If the Bible is indeed true, and you're not in Christ Jesus, then woe betide you, because inexorable waves of hellish agony will buffet you. Imagine your worst nightmare, multiply it a thousandfold, and you still wouldn't have even begun to fully conceive the depth of what God is talking about here. Believe me, I know my stuff, I'm a History buff specialising in WWII. It's almost impossible for one to honestly research the grim realities of that hellish conflagration and realise some startling truths about the appalling state that a Godless humanity is mired in, what with the same issues (to a lesser extent) plaguing us all today. Hehe, try sticking your finger in a tiny fire for just a second...only a moron would take me up on that. Yet, when faced with the very real prospect of having one's ENTIRE BEING thrown into the lake of fire and brimstone FOR ALL ETERNITY, the vast majority of people simply laugh and shrug it off...talk about being imbecilic eh? Now as for Rhonda, good luck to her but Big Daddy here won't be marrying any lady with her overdone physique anytime soon!  Soft, young, nice and sweet (I mean that innocently by the way so don't get any funny ideas!) is more Big Daddy' s style.

Oh Lord, here we go off on a tangent again!  Hasn't this subject already been beaten to death on so many other threads??!

Again, I remind everyone that these narrow-minded, right-wing, religious fanatics are almost as dangerous to your freedom of self-expression as the Islamic terrorists!

You mention WWII...a large number of the approximate 55 million people killed in that war were murdered in the name of Christ, and to save Christianity (e.g. from the evil/infidel Jews)!
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Richard2004 on October 22, 2005, 11:14:24 AM
  Personally, I think women shouldn't bodybuild at all. Muscularity is a masculine trait, so girls who increase their muscularity are becoming mannish. A women taking part in a bodybuilding contest, is almost as sad as a man who takes part of a beauty pageant.
SUCKMYMUSCLE

You must be the same fellow (or, of the same Neanderthal mindset) quoted on the news recently (words to the effect) that women are "inferior" to men in the workplace and don't belong there!
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: INSOMNIA on October 22, 2005, 12:08:33 PM
Someone please delete this CRAPOLA!!    >:(
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Hedgehog on October 22, 2005, 12:22:22 PM
  Personally, I think women shouldn't bodybuild at all. Muscularity is a masculine trait, so girls who increase their muscularity are becoming mannish. A women taking part in a bodybuilding contest, is almost as sad as a man who takes part of a beauty pageant.

  Look at successful female bodybuilders, like Lenda Murray, Kim Chizevsky or Vicky Gates. They look butcher than 90% of males out there. Are those women exalting themselves, by building huge muscles? No, they are becoming the butt of jokes, for the general public. If a 220 lbs, ripped-to-the-bone man is already considered to be freakish, by the public, then consider what they might think of a woman, in similar physical condition. Myself, I could never perform, sexually, with a woman like that.

  As for what is possible to be achieved, naturally...well, no one really knows, but it is certain that the average woman has a lower innate potential, for muscle growth, than the average man and that this remains true, for men vs women, across all levels of competition, from local amateur shows right up to the Olympia level.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

The bodybuilders you mentioned are three females who decided to use male hormones.

If a female decides to bodybuild without using hormone therapy, she will remain a woman. It's quite easy IMO.

YIP
Zack
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: onlyme on October 22, 2005, 12:40:03 PM
Here are two REAL GIRLS!  NO roids!  EXACTLY what a girl should look like,
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Richard2004 on October 22, 2005, 12:58:58 PM
Get this crap off this thread and put the Word of God back in. What kind of world are we living in when God's OWN CREATIONS deny His existence and censor His message, allowing filth instead? Hedgehog, you should be ashamed of yourself! Rest assured, you will be judged by your abominable actions and punished for them.

But, but, I thought God's greatest masterpiece was a beautiful woman...right Onlyme??!
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: onlyme on October 22, 2005, 01:00:57 PM
It sound like MyU is gay. Maybe he should go to the sex board and get something going with Bay.  These two girls are GODS greatest creations.  You will be be judged by Elton John when you die.
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: onlyme on October 22, 2005, 01:16:17 PM
HAIL TO BEING A PERVERT AND TAINTED!
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: INSOMNIA on October 22, 2005, 01:20:57 PM
Hey Benner, werent you banned some time ago??? At it again I see...

"Big daddy"...oh please! I think Im gonna be sick!!!!  :-[


take a hike, will you? Hedge can you ban this lunatic? Ron??  :-\
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: onlyme on October 22, 2005, 01:35:46 PM
In regards to the whipping MrU. if you are volunterring I'm sorry but I am not into that kind of stuff.  Maybe one of your followers will do it with you.  It is against god's will.  You sure do mix words allot especially when you try to pull off you are religious.  You so full of shit you will dammed to hellforever!  I like the word mongrel.
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: INSOMNIA on October 22, 2005, 01:53:45 PM
  >:(

  (http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~buckscounty/cemeteries/SoudertonCemetery/BENNER_CharlesH_LeannaSouderton.jpg)
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Richard2004 on October 22, 2005, 01:58:05 PM
Gee gollies guys, thanks for reviving my "faded into obscurity" thread (Onlyme, I think you're the one that actually started the "revival"-thanks!)...and now its become a "hot topic"!

My daddy once told me that there are two things you never discuss...religion and politics!

Anyway, getting back to the subject...long live the ALL-NATURAL FBBer...Rhonda...Jodi... Lori...(sigh)!! 

Somebody PLEASE please provide more NEW pics. to this thread of these gorgeous ALL-FEMALE apparent "vanishing breed" of FBBers, as my photo sources are exhausted?!
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: suckmymuscle on October 22, 2005, 02:12:10 PM
Here are two REAL GIRLS!  NO roids!  EXACTLY what a girl should look like,

  Thanks. Now I have to go change my underwear.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: DIVISION on October 22, 2005, 02:37:19 PM
If a 220 lbs, ripped-to-the-bone man is already considered to be freakish, by the public, then consider what they might think of a woman, in similar physical condition. Myself, I could never perform, sexually, with a woman like that.

Concur on that shit, bro.

I couldn't get hard for that......much less perform.

My definition of "success" in this industry is alot different than most people. I feel right now that I have tremendous success...even minus the 1st place trophies! At this point I feel that I have sacrificed nothing of myself  in order to do this...and my plan is to always feel this way, to look back and have no regrets! That, to me, is success.

^That's the right mindset for this, Rhonda.

Don't compromise yourself.   Stay true.

Don't get caught up in the industry......it eats people alive.

HAIL TO BEING A PERVERT AND TAINTED!

Word. 

Bearbro.




DIV
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: gordiano on October 22, 2005, 05:34:47 PM
Who is this hottie?

 ::)
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: onlyme on October 22, 2005, 06:22:19 PM
MrPuniverse honestly I am not that way.  I have been a heterosexual all my life.  No matter how many compliments you give me you will not convince me to change.  And this infactuation with dogs is interesting.  On MOnday you should talk to your teacher about it.  See what the probelme is before you get into high school.  The kids will eat you alive.  I'm just looking out for you.  And, on Sunday you need to say 50 Hail Marys to fix all the wrongs you have done just today.  Now take a nap cool down.
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: DIVISION on October 22, 2005, 09:49:27 PM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=36194.0;id=42896;image)

Absolutely disgusting....... :-\





DIV
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: KSA on October 23, 2005, 08:49:48 AM
The new Markus Rhul  :-*
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: dodster on October 23, 2005, 09:02:24 AM
have any nice (un test- ed ) girls posted on this thread? i cant be bothered readin it!
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Richard2004 on October 23, 2005, 11:35:00 AM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=36194.0;id=42896;image)

Now, now, gordiano, I asked for more pics. to be posted of just ALL-NATURAL FBBers!!  Not the usual tiresome battery of "juiced-up she-he's" from MindSpin's "Chamber of Horrors" collection of .jpgs depicting only the ugliest-looking juiced FBBers he can find on the web!   
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: suckmymuscle on October 24, 2005, 10:00:25 PM
Hehe, you brainless retard, I am not doubting your sexual inclination in any way, I am just saying that you're a perverted mongrel. It is one thing to be attracted to beautiful women but another altogether to be controlled by your lusts, as in being a horny dog like you are. Why can't you grasp that simple fact? Why can't you just open your Bible up and believe the Word of your very Creator, Almighty God? Has your father Satan bound you that tightly? Again, I try to give you dogs credit sometimes but you pervs are so darned witless that I simply can't! As for infatuation with dogs, that's the most fitting term to describe you; after all, you're the one acting like a mutt all the time and you certainly don't qualify being called a man, so how else can I label you? As for the Hail Marys, that simply shows how assinine you are, LOL. You're a spineless, gutless, mindless kid and all of your spastic comments prove my point abundantly. WAHAHAHA, "probleme" and "infactuation"?  ;D What the hell is wrong with your intellect? What kind of bloody nincompoop are you? Not only you a nadless sack of turd, you're a stupid kid as well. Even my boys know their BASIC spelling.  ;)

  For fuck sake, will some moderator please ban this idiot fucker from the board? Please? I can't stand this dumbass, writing his retarded rants, every fucking post anymore.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: DIVISION on October 25, 2005, 01:33:14 AM
  For f**k sake, will some moderator please ban this idiot fucker from the board? Please? I can't stand this dumbass, writing his retarded rants, every fucking post anymore.

This ain't Mayhem......

People can actually speak their mind here, even religious zealots like Mr. Universe.

Just ignore if you can't deal.






DIV
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: onlyme on October 25, 2005, 06:18:49 AM
I like that word nicompoop. Are you sure you spelled it right.  MrPuniverse, will you please pray for me during your daily beat-off session with your significant other.  But you have to inckude the fact that I thank god a million times for making me nothing like you. 

Mongrel and nicompoop.  I know you are but what am I.
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Richard2004 on October 25, 2005, 02:37:15 PM
While Onlyme and MrUniverse93 "slug-it-out" on the religious front, does anyone have any more inspirational pics. and stories of ALL-NATURAL female bodybuilders (either recreational or competitive)??!
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Richard2004 on November 20, 2005, 09:21:10 PM
Like the proverbial "Pandora's Box"...i.e. when you open it and let all of the illegal drug-loaded "she-he's" come "spewing-out" with their husky, masculine, voices, masculine-looking features (including their genitalia), etc., you have left a handful of dedicated, competing, all-female, all-natural, bodybuilders (practically all amateur!)...even less in number when you consider those competitors competing WITHOUT their breasts being "artificially augmented"...i.e. ALL-NATURAL  THROUGHOUT...WOW!!

Here are two of the VERY BEST of this VERY RARE breed...JODI MILLER and RHONDA DETHLEFS...to give inspiration to all girls and women contemplating taking up the lifestyle of ALL-NATURAL weight-training, or "bodybuilding", along with intelligent dieting, to improve their appearance, health, strength and athletic ability, NATURALLY.

Who knows, maybe just some (if even only one!) girl/woman will be inspired by "resurrecting" this dormant thread...if so the effort will be worth it!!...

JODI MILLER's pic. and some of her comments/viewpoints on dangerous drug use in female bodybuilding...

(http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/big/2005usa_fig49.jpg)

I've been tempted too.  I've had trainers, fellow competitors, and various men in this industry trying to convince me that anavar, Growth, primo, and a multitude of other "supplements" would do me a world of good.  I thought long and hard about the pros and cons of taking steroids and of remaining natural.  I chose to remain natural and I'd be happy to state the long list of reasons as to why.  I have busted my ass in the gym for 15 years to gain the type of muscularity you see in my physique.  In fact, I trained from the time I was 18 to the time I was 26 before ever "dieting down" for a show.  Pete Grubbs, who works with Tanji Johnson, helped me with my nutrition this year, and I told him expressly...no ephedra, no diuretics (not even over the counter), no drugs.  I wanted to do this the way I knew it could be done, the way it should be done.  I wanted other women to see what can happen when you put balls to the wall, throw everything you have into the workouts, follow the diet, discuss things openly with the person helping you with your diet and your training, and don't fall prey to what is the popular method at the given time.

I have personally seen girls faces change in the last two to three years...I do mean in person, right before my eyes.  Every single time I thought about what a bit of anavar could do for me (judges were telling me I was too tiny...in figure, mind you), I clicked on these very same girls' sites and compared their photos from two and three years ago to now.  The changes scared me every single time I pointed my mouse to their websites.  It was all I needed to say no.  I have been very outspoken about my opinion of gear use in this industry amongst the women and will continue to be whenever someone will take the time to listen to me.

And then there is RHONDA DETHLEFS' (a.k.a. "Insomnia") pic. and some of her comments on the fabulous leg strength she has built NATURALLY...

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=33987.0;id=46011;image)

Thank you for the acknowledgment Richard! Yes, I can in fact legpress 1655 lbs...for 3 reps. That is 36 plates, and that is the most I have done, ever.
The day the video was shot, was 2 days after the Team Universe..my energy was low and I felt depleted and dehydrated, so i did not attempt to max out..safety was my main concern. I started with 6 plates on each side, for 20 reps, then added 2 more plates for each set, each set being 20 reps. I worked my way up to 32 plates that day, which I believe to total 1485 lbs, for 7 reps, and I did 3 sets of that weight. No wraps, no spotter. I went parallel (knees to chest), but no further, on the heavy sets. The video doenst show me drop setting the weight until it was back down to 6 plates. After that was SL deadlifts.

I squat 405 raw, and at age 15 I was able to leg press 800 lbs, after 2 months of training.

Rhonda's mind-boggling angled leg-press of 1655 lbs. for 3 reps., at a mere approx. 165 lb. bwt., is approx. 10 times in excess of her bodyweight (!!!)... which is pound-for-pound of bwt. arguably MORE than the approx. 300 lb. MALE, drug-bloated, pro.BB FREAK, the multi-Mr. Olympia winner, Ronnie Coleman can do (i.e. an equivalent weight of 3000 lbs. for 3 reps.)...and Rhonda is an ALL-NATURAL FEMALE bodybuilder...imagine that...utterly amazing!!









Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Richard2004 on November 22, 2005, 09:46:46 AM
Another ALL-NATURAL (uhhh...no BB drugs) female bodybuilder (i.e. by definition…ANY girl/woman who weight-trains to improve their appearance, health, strength, and athletic ability!) is the absolutely stunning TV icon NICOLLETTE SHERIDAN…

Nicollete’s comments on her exercise/diet regimen…

Exercise regime:
Nicolette says she's 'very athletic: 'I love sports and really love volleyball.' Her other sporting passions are skiing, riding horses and… 'lots and lots of sex.'

Nicki Waterman, celebrity fitness trainer says: 'Nicolette has got a lovely physique and I’m not surprised to hear her say she’s athletic. I’d say she also LIFTS SOME SERIOUS WEIGHTS, probably training once or twice a day and splitting her routine (legs, backs, biceps one day, then chest, shoulders and triceps the next, with abdominals every day) to build up muscle. This would also be why she’s so lean. This combination of activities is a very healthy way to keep fit.'

Diet:
Nicolette apparently grumbles about Teri Hatcher having junk food on set, saying it’s a bad influence. But she also admits to enjoying ‘bad’ food herself. 'We love to eat pizza and French fries,' she confesses. Nicolette says she really appreciates food, and loves creating dishes. 'I’m a great cook, if I do say so myself.'

'Nicolette really looks like she has a healthy relationship with food,' says Nicki. 'And allows herself to eat what she enjoys as an occasional treat. But I’d say the emphasis is probably on high protein which would help with the muscle-building work she does in the gym.'
(end comments)

And, of course, some selected pics. of “near-perfect 10” Nicollette spanning her 20 year-odd movie/TV career…

(http://www.popculturejunkies.com/images/nicollettesheridan.jpg)

(http://home.comcast.net/~ivychat/Nicollette_Sheridan.jpg)

(http://wheelsanddollbaby.com/news/img/nicollette-sheridan.jpg)

(http://img.atpictures.com/nicollette/01000_NicolletteSh_Barson_5335338.jpg)

(http://hk.epochtimes.com/i6/5072901571470.jpg)

(http://celebritypictures.duble.com/picturesphotospics/N/nicollettesheridan/1.jpg)

(http://www.maximonline.com/girls/nicollette_sheridan/nicollette-sheridan-gm_l1.jpg)

Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: DIVISION on November 22, 2005, 10:39:13 AM
Another ALL-NATURAL (uhhh...no BB drugs) female bodybuilder (i.e. by definition…ANY girl/woman who weight-trains to improve their appearance, health, strength, and athletic ability!) is the absolutely stunning TV icon NICOLLETTE SHERIDAN…

^RICHARD,  THIS IS A FU.CKING REACH!!!!!!!    >:(

You're really getting desperate aren't you?   ::) :P :-[ :-X :-\ :'( :(





DIV
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Jean Paul Gaultier on November 22, 2005, 10:43:21 AM
JODI NATURAL


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Richard2004 on November 22, 2005, 10:48:44 AM
^RICHARD,  THIS IS A FU.CKING REACH!!!!!!!    >:(

You're really getting desperate aren't you?   ::) :P :-[ :-X :-\ :'( :(
DIV

Bro, please expand on your logic here!   

Like many Hollywood stars/women, sure Nicollette may have had apparent plastic surgery, breast augmentation, etc., but surely she's not a user of BB drugs like AAS/GH...unless you have verifiable info. to the contrary...please advise!

However, Nicollette is definitely a FBBer!
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: DIVISION on November 22, 2005, 12:39:54 PM
Like many Hollywood stars/women, sure Nicollette may have had apparent plastic surgery, breast augmentation, etc., but surely she's not a user of BB drugs like AAS/GH...unless you have verifiable info. to the contrary...please advise!

^Nicolette Sheridan was once strong with the force, then she was overtaken by the "Dark Side".

She's more plastic than woman, twisted and evil.

Don't underestimate the power of the "Dark Side".

.....or you shall meet your destiny......as Sheridan did.   :-X






DIV
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Richard2004 on November 23, 2005, 03:42:13 PM
^Nicolette Sheridan was once strong with the force, then she was overtaken by the "Dark Side".

She's more plastic than woman, twisted and evil.

Don't underestimate the power of the "Dark Side".

.....or you shall meet your destiny......as Sheridan did.   :-X
DIV

Hey, Div bro, whaccha benna smokin'???!   Have you gone over to the "Dark Side", too, like "Testy" (a.k.a. "Lola Brent" in drag)?!

Uhhhh..."plastic"...face lifts...breast augmentation...tummy tucks and ???...why, why...that sort of speaks for ALL of the competitive female Fitness, Figure, and Bodybuilding competitors, both amateur and professional, doesn't it...without even considering the issue of adding their "secret" use of BB drugs??!

Will the remaining few females who have not been "artifically-enhanced" or "BB drug-enhanced" please raise your hands??!  Wait...keep those hands-up...I, I, can't see any hands raised...raise them high now...why, I see Rhonda, Jodi, and Lori...are there ANY more pure, unadultrated, 100% female, BB women left out there...raise your hands, PLEASE???!

Why...why...this is becoming so depressing...trying to search for, and locate, 100% pure, BB drug-free, non-artificial/plastic, ALL-NATURAL, BB women...that I may have to just give up and join Div, and Testy, over on the "Dark Side"!?

Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: INSOMNIA on November 23, 2005, 04:05:20 PM
 :D
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Richard2004 on November 23, 2005, 04:36:01 PM
:D

Rhonda/"Insomnia", someone really needs to contact "Oprah", or "Montel", and tell them about your (and Jodi's) estimable BB achievements, and what the two of you (as ALL-NATURALS) are up against in the sordid world of "artificially-augmented" BB competition!

Just think Rhonda...wouldn't your appearing on "Oprah", showing off your ALL-NATURAL, gorgeous, FBB figure, and demonstrating knocking out reps. in the angled leg press with 1650 lbs., at a bwt. of a mere 165 lbs., be a "sensation", and a tremendous inspiration to all girls/women, on national prime-time TV?!

Plus, what a PLUG for the benefits of ALL-NATURAL female BB!!

Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Richard2004 on November 23, 2005, 04:42:05 PM
Hi Richard, Hi Div.  :D

Hey Meddy...say hello to Sally for me! 

Meddy, methinks Div no longer has a crush on you!?

Happy Thanksgiving to you and loved ones!!
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: DIVISION on November 23, 2005, 09:19:35 PM
Why...why...this is becoming so depressing...trying to search for, and locate, 100% pure, BB drug-free, non-artificial/plastic, ALL-NATURAL, BB women...that I may have to just give up and join Div over on the "Dark Side"!?

.....it is your destiny.

Join me and we can rule the galaxy as father and son! 




DIV
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Jodi on November 23, 2005, 10:37:54 PM
Jean Paul, for whatever reason, you can't seem to see reality and understand that I am natural.  If you were to meet me in person, it would become obvious to you.  There's a different look to my muscle, to my face, to my skin, to the overall shape of my body than that of a girl on steroids or growth.

I guess you can just say I'm one strong ass bitch in the gym who has dedicated much of her spare time for the past 15 years to doing things the hard way, the patient way, the way of the turtle rather than the hare.  I wouldn't have it any other way.

By the way, Mary Lado is another natural competitor who is beautiful and successful in today's industry.  And...no silicone.
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: billycarp on November 23, 2005, 11:27:35 PM
Jean Paul, for whatever reason, you can't seem to see reality and understand that I am natural.  If you were to meet me in person, it would become obvious to you.  There's a different look to my muscle, to my face, to my skin, to the overall shape of my body than that of a girl on steroids or growth.

I guess you can just say I'm one strong ass bitch in the gym who has dedicated much of her spare time for the past 15 years to doing things the hard way, the patient way, the way of the turtle rather than the hare.  I wouldn't have it any other way.

By the way, Mary Lado is another natural competitor who is beautiful and successful in today's industry.  And...no silicone.

You look natural to me.  The true test is off-season appearance. 
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: INSOMNIA on November 23, 2005, 11:56:31 PM
Rhonda/"Insomnia", someone really needs to contact "Oprah", or "Montel", and tell them about your (and Jodi's) estimable BB achievements, and what the two of you (as ALL-NATURALS) are up against in the sordid world of "artificially-augmented" BB competition!

Just think Rhonda...wouldn't your appearing on "Oprah", showing off your ALL-NATURAL, gorgeous, FBB figure, and demonstrating knocking out reps. in the angled leg press with 1650 lbs., at a bwt. of a mere 165 lbs., be a "sensation", and a tremendous inspiration to all girls/women, on national prime-time TV?!

Plus, what a PLUG for the benefits of ALL-NATURAL female BB!!



Sounds like a great idea Richard...but most people (that dont know the difference) dont buy that Im drug-free. Would be fun to freak them out though! From the sounds of it, you have a great appreciation for all the hard work and patience it takes. Thank you.

Jody- I wouldnt have it any other way either!

Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: DIVISION on November 24, 2005, 01:18:55 AM
You look natural to me.  The true test is off-season appearance. 

Jodi off-season is bootilicious.  She doesn't get that heavy, but she really fills out nicely.  Her ass, thighs really get thick.....

yeah, got any offseason pics where you're not so drawn? I too would like to see you with a nice curvature rather than hard biceps, striations...and veins

you do do stuff like clen, though I am guessing. imo it makes a woman too lean

Jodi is drug free.

(http://jodileigh.com/images/gallery/brown_f1/images/JB012.jpg)
(http://jodileigh.com/images/gallery/brown_f1/images/JB013.jpg)
(http://jodileigh.com/images/gallery/brown_f1/images/JHp01.jpg)
(http://jodileigh.com/images/gallery/brown_f1/images/JHp04.jpg)
(http://www.jodileigh.com/images/gallery/stutz/sneak/004.jpg)
(http://www.jodileigh.com/images/gallery/stutz/sneak/008.jpg)



DIV
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Jodi on November 24, 2005, 09:42:11 AM
Sorry...there's no way to discuss this and not create a long post.  Read if you want; skip if you don't.

I've never done clen and don't agree with it being used by other girls either.  I didn't use any diuretics going into the shows this year.  In previous years, I've used Taraxatone (which I can't stand) or a D-root stack that include Dandelion root, potassium, and B-6.  In fact, when I reached my leanest for the 2002 Junior Nationals where I saw striations in my glutes big time, I didn't do anything but simply drop my water.  This year we added in Potassium and Magnesium for the few days that I was dropping my water, but that was it.  You're looking at a solid 15 years of stubborn work.

Remember, I started off in powerlifting.  I trained with heavy weights for eight years before I ever began a competition diet.  I built quality, dense muscle before I ever began to eat into for the sole sake of traipsing and twirling around in a bikini.  I have done numerous different events:  powerlifting, bodybuilding, figure, obstacle courses.  And I always did what my trainers told me to do.  Now, at 33-years old, I know my body well enough to do my own workouts myself and to work with a nutritionist to guide me on my diet for shows.

I also use near perfect form; this comes from the powerlifting background.  I'm very intuned with my body.  I use a lot of mental visualization while I'm training.  I can see the various muscles in my mind and connect that mental stimulation with the activation point in the muscle fibers.  My shoulders lagged behind for the loggest time because I couldn't gain that mind-to-muscle activation until a year or so ago.

I am strong.  At only 110 pounds, I squatted 250 with just knee wraps on...beyond parallel.  I've leg pressed 600 pounds for multiple reps and done it for weeks on end.  I can do reps of 3 with very heavy weight or reps of 50 to 100 with drop setting the weight.  I do all of my cardio that I'm told to do.  I don't let myself get out of hand in the off season.  I don't have a history of being overweight.  I eat my meals.  I don't cheat on my diet unless I'm told to.  When I was told three weeks out from USA's I couldn't have sugarless gum or Splenda...guess what?  No sugarless gum, no splenda.  I ate boiled chicken for breakfast.  I've eaten fish for breakfast.  I've done it all...except the drugs.

My idols were of those in the eighties and nineties.  I'm sorry...I don't have too many idols from today.  The shows are disappointing me more and more because the lines don't flow and the bodies aren't beautiful.  There are beautiful shoulder or beautiful abs or beautiful backs...but those are just entities.  It is now rare for them to culminate into one, exquisite package anymore.  It truly is disappointing.  Honestly...I didn't even know girls did steroids.  I had no clue about them when I began competing.  Until last year when one of my close friends told me even she did clen, I didn't know that almost everyone around me did it.

This is what a body can look like (and I'm nowhere near perfect; I know what my flaws are in my physique and can explain why...besides politics...I haven't turned pro in figure, though it wouldn't have been a farfetched idea for it to have happened this year).  This is what a body can do with patience, consistency, hard work, obstinance, and the right nutrition and training...and without drugs.  This is what it looks like.  It's just so rare that y'all don't want to believe it. 

Start believing.
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Jodi on November 24, 2005, 09:49:18 AM
(http://www.polodigital.net/images/Jodi/Jodi177.jpg)

This was taken two weeks ago, and November and December are usually my heaviest months of the year.  I'm sitting at around 116 to 120 lbs. on a regular basis this off season, and I weighed 108 lbs. on stage in Vegas at the USA's...all at 4'11".

I'm not looking to put too much more muscle on.  I want my quads a little more conditioned for next year, my hamstrings a little more curvaceous, my glutes even rounder and harder.  My calves pretty much suck, so I need to work on those.  I want a bit more size on my shoulders, notably front and side delts.  My back needs a tad bit of width and thickness.  I need to get the blocks of my abs to show up a bit better on stage, though I have a concave curve to my stomach and a bit of that lower abdominal muscle leftover from powerlifting (a powerlifter's belly), so I'm wanting to work on that.  And I want to try whittle my waist down from the 22-inch range that it was for this year's shows to a 21-inch range...just for the heck of it.

Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Jodi on November 24, 2005, 11:14:00 AM
Of course, Cory Everson goes without saying, and I realize that she probably wasn't drug free, but at the time that I first began to idolize her, I didn't know that.

Mia Finnegan comes to mind.

There are others, but I've got some turkey to eat, so I'll have to come back to this another time.
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: breakingthrough on November 24, 2005, 12:04:29 PM
Jodi, I am a believer! You are AWESOME. Keep up the hardwork.
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Richard2004 on November 24, 2005, 12:04:44 PM
Thanks again Jodi, for the "heads-up" on another very rare, competitive, ALL-NATURAL, FBBer: MARY ELIZABETH LADO! 

Mary is a Figure/Fitness competitor (she even has qualified for IFBB Pro. Figure)!

Truly, all-natural FBBers like Mary are "giant slayers" on such a very UNEVEN playing field...against the druggies and the "artifical/plastic" augmented/enhanced competitive Figure/Fitness (not to even mention FBB!) gals...

Stats:
Height 5'7"
Weight 134
Measurements 36-28-36
Size 4
Hair Light Brown
Eyes Brown

Brief autobio:
I was born in New Orleans, Louisiana on September 16,1978 and raised in Metairie, Louisiana. I have two brothers, Jose 21 and Carlos 19. If you wonder, “Why such Spanish names?” My mother Marianela is from Cuba and my father Jose Ramon is from Spain.

Since the age of nine I began to play sports such as volleyball, basketball, track, soccer, and softball. Growing up I couldn’t help but to be a tomboy with my two brothers . In my middle school years and up through high school I won many district titles. Once graduating from high school I earned an athletic scholarship to Chipola Junior College to play fast pitch softball for two years. As a pitcher, I was nicknamed “Scary Mary” due to the fact that you would never know where the pitch was going to end up. Academically I earned an associate of arts in physical education and Who’s Who Among American Junior Colleges.

I then moved on to receive an athletic scholarship in softball to finish my studies at Georgia Southwestern State University. When I completed my softball years I was then an assistant coach in softball to finish my bachelors in sociology. When my college days were over it was back to Louisiana. There I began to fool around with weights on a daily basis as a hobby or sport. I met a bodybuilder who asked me if I ever thought about competing. I never really new there was such a thing? I watched my first figure competition that summer in 2002 and decided I wanted to try it. I always admired the toned athletes.

I did my first show in New Orleans in 2003, where I placed 1st in the tall class. I then did the NPC Louisiana and got second, the NPC Greater Gulf States was my last local show where I placed 1st and overall. My final show that year was the NPC National Figure Championships. Let’s just say I took that as a learning experience.

My goal the following year was to be a professional figure competitor. I aimed for the NPC Junior Nationals and NPC National Figure Championships that year in 2004. I placed second at Junior Nationals and won 1st place in the tall class at NPC National Figure Championships and overall. Thanks to the support of my family My dream was now a reality.

I currently work at a 4 star hotel as an assistant manager when I am not competing. In the near future I would like to take up personal training.

Awards/Achievement:
Fitness Experience
·   2005 IFBB CALIFORNIA PRO FIGURE-OVERALL
·   2005 IFBB PITTSBURGH PRO FIGURE-OVERALL
·   2005 IFBB FIGURE INTERNATIONAL-THIRD PLACE
·   2004 NPC NATIONAL FIGURE CHAMPIONSHIPS-OVERALL (IFBB PROFESSIONAL QUALIFIER)
·   2004 NPC JUNIOR NATIONAL FIGURE CHAMPIONSHIPS-SECOND PLACE CLASS D
·   2003 NPC GREATER GULF STATES FIGURE CHAMPIONSHIPS-OVERALL
·   2003 NPC NEW ORLEANS FIGURE CHAMPIONSHIPS-FIRST PLACE TALL CLASS
·   2003 NPC LOUISIANA STATE FIGURE CHAMPIONSHIPS-SECOND PLACE TALL CLASS

Modeling/Print Experience
·   VYO-TECH, Contracted athlete to endorse & promote Vyo-Tech products through 3/06
·   NPC NEWS (COVER)
·   NPC NEWS ONLINE
·   FLEX MAGAZINE
·   IRONMAN MAGAZINE
·   ALLURINGFITNESS.COM
·   BIO-ENGINEERED SUPPLEMENTS & NUTRITION
·   MET-Rx

Pics:
(http://www.jmpmanagement.com/ml/images/9F7K7066.jpg)

(http://www.jmpmanagement.com/ml/images/9F7K7100.jpg)

(http://www.jmpmanagement.com/ml/images/9F7K7145.jpg)

(http://www.jmpmanagement.com/ml/images/9F7K7219.jpg)

(http://www.jmpmanagement.com/ml/images/9F7K7296.jpg)

(http://www.jmpmanagement.com/ml/images/9F7K7305.jpg)

(http://www.jmpmanagement.com/ml/images/9F7K7389.jpg)

(http://www.jmpmanagement.com/ml/images/9F7K7399.jpg)

(http://www.jmpmanagement.com/ml/images/4.jpg)

(http://www.marylado.com/desktops/MaryLadoDesktop02_800.jpg)

 
 
     
     
     
 

Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Thin Lizzy on November 24, 2005, 12:06:03 PM
You look great, Jodi. A perfect combination of athleticism and feminity.

It's impossible to look at your "bootay" and not have impure thoughts.
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Richard2004 on November 24, 2005, 12:23:06 PM
Div, thanks for the great added pics. of Jodi!!

Jodi, thanks for taking the time to write the inspiring autobio. material on your struggles over the years to train, and progress, as strictly an ALL-NATURAL competitive powerlifter and bodybuilder!

Surely, gals like Jodi, Rhonda, and Lori (haven't heard from her for a while!) are LIVING PROOF to all aspiring, girls/women that with patient, dedicated, intelligent, hard work, and diet, ALONE, you can achieve literal miracles with your improved appearance/health/athletic-ability through progressive weight-training!

And, you can become as strong as hell in the process (look at Rhonda and Jodi!) and still look 100% FEMININE!!!l
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Richard2004 on November 24, 2005, 01:41:22 PM
Sounds like a great idea Richard...but most people (that dont know the difference) dont buy that Im drug-free. Would be fun to freak them out though! From the sounds of it, you have a great appreciation for all the hard work and patience it takes. Thank you.

Rhonda, like yourself, I have been doing it the slow, patient, hard, way...in my case, for over forty years!   

Yes, I’ve gotten a “true appreciation” of the all-natural FBBer, honestly, as I go back to the days of seeing the likes of Abbye Stockton, Regaine Robert, Beverly Jocher Elliott, and Vera Christiansen (sp.?) grace the pages of the old Strength & Health and Peary Rader Iron Man mags.  And, these weight-trained, truly inspirational, FBB pioneers-“voices in the wilderness”-were about as ALL-NATURAL as you could get (circa: 1950’s-1960’s)!

It really has become a “war” hasn’t it…and has been so for many years?   The impatient side of  “I want a super body/size/strength overnight at ALL COSTS”…including dangerous drugs and surgeries…versus the side of the “slow, patient, healthy, all-natural approach” to reaching the same goals. 

Yes, there are millions (I am sure) of women who weight-train, naturally, at health clubs/gyms, and at home, around the world, with only mere handful apparently ever competing.  Maybe, only magazines like Shape ever give women like these all-natural weight-training women any publicity?!

Sadly, I think just a relatively small number of these women train truly progressively…with heavier and heavier weights…because of the media-promoted fear/”brainwashing”/old-wives’-tale that “lifting heavy weights will make them look like a man”…therefore, they cheat themselves out of the great ancillary STRENGTH-BUILDING benefits of progressive weight-training by “lifting only little 5 lb. dumbbells”…i.e. just toning their muscles! 

What a tragedy…as the added physical strength these weight-training women could have built, through lifting progressively heavier-and-heavier weights (as so clearly exemplified by you and Jodi), could have been truly life-saving in case of a physical emergency! 

Brute strength (built through progressive weight-training) is every bit as important a physical attribute as stamina, speed, agility, etc.!!  Tragically, our society greatly down-plays the importance of women being physically strong, as well as possessing the other athletic attributes!  I wonder how many girls/women have lost their lives because of the lack of basic physical strength in times of a crisis??!

What I like about the Oprah and Montel shows are their willingness to take on new/unknown, controversial, subjects and air them…in your face!  As I recall, Montel has already had several programs in the past where he has given publicity/support to FBBers. 

Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: DIVISION on November 24, 2005, 07:19:18 PM
You look great, Jodi. A perfect combination of athleticism and feminity.

It's impossible to look at your "bootay" and not have impure thoughts.

^Concur......

Div, thanks for the great added pics. of Jodi!!

(http://jodileigh.com/images/gallery/brown_f1/images/JB012.jpg)

^Probably my favorite Jodi pic........





DIV
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: genex on November 24, 2005, 08:23:31 PM
Jodi I love your offseason look there - very nice and something that could appeal quite easily to the more mainstream.

Great job!

gene
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: sarahdunlap on November 24, 2005, 08:54:58 PM
this is me completely clean and natural after a show prep....  so its not like I totally natural, but when I am cleaned out, this is how I maintain.
(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a292/skdunlap/cleanandnatural.jpg)
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: testicles on November 24, 2005, 09:04:37 PM
You're quite open and honest. Can you post your pre-contest aas regime?


she speaks out of it for 6 hrs a day ;)
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Jodi on November 24, 2005, 09:25:51 PM
Okay, I've compiled a list, and I don't know who is/was natural and who isn't/wasn't, but you have to admit that the early days of these girls in the heyday of their competitive success is quite different from some of the looks being presented today.  I haven't caught everyone, but this is a nice start.  My box of magazines from my college days and days in the Galaxy is buried deep in the confines of my closet, and I'm not about to go dragging it out tonight.

* Alphie Newman (wow...what can words say?  She's part of the reason why I chose to go into the Galaxy.)
* Lisa Lowe (beautiful competitor who always got screwed in the placings when she competed on American soil.)
* Sharon Bruneau (my all time favorite)
* Michelle Bellini
* Marianna Komlos
* Debbie Kruck
* Chris Lyons
* Saryn Muldrow
* Mandy Blank (I was so sorry to see her step away from the competitive stage.)
* Theresa Hessler
* Karen Hulse
* Cathy LeFrancois (Priest...is that still a part of her name?)
* Mary Yockey (she and Mia Finnegan belong in the same category...two girls-next-door athletes with physiques that were attainable and yet totally top notch and neither of whom had implants.)
* Ericca Kern
* Anja Langer

And again...

* Cory Everson
* Mia Finnegan

Oh...and there was a poster of Diana Dennis in an old powerlifting gym I used to workout at.  I would stare at that and say, "one day...one day."  It was in that same gym, with dust and dirt and wood floors and no air conditioning greeting me along with the old iron weights and the creaking machines and the smell of chalk and sweat in the air (a true gym...not like the crap hoity toity gym I'm at now), that my trainer sat me down and said, "Once you cross the line, Jodi, you can never go back."  I didn't know at the time he was talking about steroids and women; I thought it had to do with crossing the line in terms of how much muscle mass a woman puts on.  But those words resonated in my ears year after year after year.

I know he would be proud of me.  I thanked him several years ago for enabling me to move out of the powerlifting realm and into the fitness world, and he told me thanks in return, for "some people forget who brought them to the dance in the first place."  I know he would be proud.  Thank you, Dennis.
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: DIVISION on November 24, 2005, 09:38:23 PM
It was in that same gym, with dust and dirt and wood floors and no air conditioning greeting me along with the old iron weights and the creaking machines and the smell of chalk and sweat in the air (a true gym...not like the crap hoity toity gym I'm at now), that my trainer sat me down and said, "Once you cross the line, Jodi, you can never go back."  I didn't know at the time he was talking about steroids and women; I thought it had to do with crossing the line in terms of how much muscle mass a woman puts on.  But those words resonated in my ears year after year after year.

^That reads like a passage out of a book.......

I can imagine all that, good imagery.

It's good you haven't joined the "Dark Side", Jodi......




DIV
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Jodi on November 24, 2005, 09:51:00 PM
I was very lucky in meeting that trainer.  In fact, I've been lucky period, for I didn't begin having to pay for the services of a trainer until I chose to work with Mike Davies for three of the four shows I did in 2003 (my fifth place finish at the Figure Nationals was with the aid of my ex husband coupled with my own decisions, though that wasn't made public until the 2004 competitive season when a head judge asked me directly after a show who was training me).

My mother worked in the same building and right down the hall from Dennis, and she happened to mention something one day about having a daughter who did powerlifting and was looking for someone to help guide her, and he was very big in the powerlifting world in the 70's and offered to meet with me and provide me with some of the tips I needed.  He didn't think I was serious enough until he watched me one evening after a full day of teaching.  I was busy gabbing with several of the men in the gym, just joking and chatting it up with them.  It came time for me to step up to the deadlifting platform, and 240 pounds lay there...waiting for me.  I put my belt on, took a deep breath, and this look of intensity and fire washed over my face.  I walked up to that bar, situated myself, and lifted it without a struggle.  He changed his mind about me that evening and never doubted me again.  From that point, he did everything to challenge me and throw every single torturous workout my way simply because he knew I would do everything I was told, even if sometimes it was to spite him and to prove to him I could do it all.  He had never met a girl like me.  Most people haven't.

I did only one more show under his tutelage before he managed to convince me to change up my diet and do some true cardio (i.e., running).  I began to see my body take shape in a way I had never noticed.   My body took to the weights very readily, especially my glutes, quads, and biceps, but I never saw cuts...just a lot of shape and a lot of dense, dense muscle.  Dennis was the first person to take sugar away from me and to teach me that a body can be shaped and sculpted like a piece of clay.  He made me choose:  have abs and a more feminine physique or continue powerlifting.  I quit powerlifting shortly thereafter.

He was also the one who told me the gym is like a mistress.  Ever taking of your soul.  You can never get enough; no matter how much iron you taste, it will never be enough.  You'll never reach satisfaction, so you have to come back for more...and more...and more.  And even when you're away, you'll wish you were in its arms.  It's an addiction.  It's a primal need.
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: DIVISION on November 24, 2005, 10:11:51 PM
Dennis was the first person to take sugar away from me and to teach me that a body can be shaped and sculpted like a piece of clay.  He made me choose:  have abs and a more feminine physique or continue powerlifting.  I quit powerlifting shortly thereafter.

That's a shame.......I would have loved to see what you looked like as a powerlifter.

Thick and full, I bet.

He was also the one who told me the gym is like a mistress.  Ever taking of your soul.  You can never get enough; no matter how much iron you taste, it will never be enough.  You'll never reach satisfaction, so you have to come back for more...and more...and more.  And even when you're away, you'll wish you were in its arms.  It's an addiction.  It's a primal need.

Primal.

Definitely.



DIV
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Thin Lizzy on November 24, 2005, 11:49:28 PM
Got you agree w/ you about Nicolette Sheridan, Big Dicked Bob. I've always thought she was the most amazing looking woman.
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Richard2004 on November 25, 2005, 12:54:07 PM
this is me completely clean and natural after a show prep....  so its not like I totally natural, but when I am cleaned out, this is how I maintain.
(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a292/skdunlap/cleanandnatural.jpg)

Uhhh....Sarah, did you click on this thread and post by mistake?

You're quite open and honest. Can you post your pre-contest aas regime?

Yes Sarah, sweetiepie, please post your pre-contest AAS/gear regime/stack, so that we can compare it with the pre-contest diets/"stacks" of ALL-NATURAL FBBers like Jodi and Rhonda!

Uhhh...Sarah...any implants or "plasticity"??!

What...TRUTH on drug-use in competitive pro. BB, finally ...is the world coming to an end??!

Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: fivegrand on November 26, 2005, 03:57:23 AM
No one's mentioned Emmanuella Pintus yet.

Carlene Marshall is natural (WNBF pro BB)

(http://www.carlenemarshall.com/swfc/images/DSCF3871.jpg)


So is Wendy Lindquist (Canadian BB/Figure)

(http://www.wendylindquist.com/gallery/040.jpg)


Erin Biro is a natural fitness competitor in Canada

(http://www.erinbiro.com/gallery/compandtrain/images/routinestool.jpg)


Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Richard2004 on November 27, 2005, 03:16:22 PM
CHERIE LOOMES is an all-natural FBB figure competitor who lives in South Africa and has competed in NABBA sanctioned figure contests since 2001, winning the event in 2003.

Not just a "mirror athlete", Cherie competes in the martial-art of Judo and also plays field hockey!

In the photo below, Cherie looks damn good for a 40 yr. old woman!

(http://www.wpw.net/wpwclubs/0-intros/cloomes/club01/images/cl.009b.jpg)
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Richard2004 on December 07, 2005, 06:11:58 PM
ALL-NATURAL Persian FBBer and Figure/Fitness competitor/model MERCEDES KHANI...

Brief bio./list-of-accomplishments:

Fitness Competitions:
May 2005 - 13th place IFBB European Championships in Yalta, Ukraine - FigureApril 2005 - 2nd place NBBF/IFBB Dutch Championships (National Championships) - FitnessMarch 2005 - 1st place NBBF/IFBB Open Eemsmond Cup (Emerald Cup) - Fitness)

Television:
Local TV show 'Enjoy TV' - Guest - Interview about my fitness and modeling careerHawaiian Tropic Peagant Special - Winner South California - MTVCatalogue:Colleen Kelly Designs - Swimwear - 2005 collection

Magazines:
Female Magazine (Holland) - Special Feature: Star & Looks - Nov/Dec 2005 - On stands now!
Flex Magazine (Holland) - IFBB Dutch Championships Contest coverage - Aug/Sept 2005
Female Magazine (Holland) - IFBB Dutch Championships Contest coverage - July/Aug 2005
Sport & Fitness Magazine (Holland and Belgium) - IFBB Dutch Championships Contest coverage - July/Aug 2005
Flex Magazine (Holland) - Open Eemsmond Cup contest coverage - June/July 2005
Sport & Fitness Magazine (Holland and Belgium) - Open Eemsmond Cup contest coverage - May/June 2005
Female Magazine (Holland) - Open Eemsmond Cup contest coverage - May/June 2005
Sport & Fitness magazine (Holland and Belgium) - Cover - March/April 2005

Contests:
Winner Fitness Competitor of the Week - www.bodybuilding.comHawa iian
Tropic Peagant - Winner South California 2004 - Hawaiian Tropic co.

Appearances:
One hour radio Interview (my fitness and modeling career ) - Branding Radio - Oct. 2005
Hot Import Nights - Miami, Florida - December 2004

Education:
College of Amsterdam - Commercial Economics - 1 year various classes
InHolland College Amsterdam - Psychology - 1 year various classes'
South Amsterdam College - High school at HAVO level (Dutch system, stands for graduating at higher level)

Skills/Hobbies
Weight lifting, Modeling, Writing, Computers, Fitness, Swimming, Club Dance, Cycling, Billiards, Cooking, Traveling, Outdoor Activities, Studying and playing with my little Chihuahua doggy

Lady.Photographers I've shot with:
Michael Stycket (CA) - FitnessMichael Neveux (CA) - FitnessBrennan Cheung (CA) - GlamourOrlando Perez (CA) - FashionMichael Palmer (London) - FitnessThomas Oed (OC) - FitnessScott Appleby (Toronto) - FitnessBrian Moss (NJ) -
FitnessModels I've shot with:
Tami Hernden
Sebastian Large
Laura Bussman

Measurements:
34C-25-35
Height: 5'6''
Off-Season Weight: 118 lbs
On-Season Weight: 106 lbs Hair: brown
Eyes: brown
Ethnicy: Persian
Dress: 6
Shoe: 7

(http://www.mercedes-khani.com/images/portfolio/swimsuit/mksf20040043.jpg)

(http://www.mercedes-khani.com/images/portfolio/swimsuit/mksf20040046.jpg)

(http://www.mercedes-khani.com/images/portfolio/swimsuit/mksf20040026.jpg)

(http://www.mercedes-khani.com/images/portfolio/swimsuit/mksf20040009.jpg)

(http://www.mercedes-khani.com/images/portfolio/swimsuit/mksf20040030.jpg)

(http://www.mercedes-khani.com/images/portfolio/swimsuit/mksf20040034.jpg)



Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Jezebelle on January 18, 2006, 02:22:48 PM
JODI NATURAL


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA


Exactly.  I see this all the time.  Female bodybuilders/trainers/gym rats (males of course also) juicing...doing meth...etc. trying to make up for some inadequacy, i.e. height in Jodi Miller's case.  Isn't she 4'11" or something?  It's like the man with the small penis who drives a sports car to feel secure about his manhood. 

And short women think they're such hardasses.  From my experience, they're the bitchiest butchiest little things, especially when intimidated by women who have what they lack.  But the drugs won't help in that department, they'll just make everything worse.  I guess that's what happened to Jodi...now it's all downhill for her.     
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Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: DIVISION on January 18, 2006, 03:19:59 PM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=36194.0;attach=58232;image)

^I believe Jodi when she says she's drug free, however, you do have a point about dieted down females.....they don't look attractive.

It's not feminine.





DIV
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Bast000 on January 18, 2006, 11:48:40 PM
bonerlicious!

(http://www.mercedes-khani.com/images/portfolio/swimsuit/mksf20040026.jpg)
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: DIVISION on January 19, 2006, 02:53:39 PM
(http://www.mercedes-khani.com/images/portfolio/swimsuit/mksf20040046.jpg)

Mercedes has a cute navel, but of course she went and got it pierced......

Women just can't leave their bodies alone.......the way they were meant to be.

Something about staying "natural" eludes women......

Why can't they just be who they are?




DIV
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Richard2004 on January 19, 2006, 04:28:27 PM
Exactly.  I see this all the time.  Female bodybuilders/trainers/gym rats (males of course also) juicing...doing meth...etc. trying to make up for some inadequacy, i.e. height in Jodi Miller's case.  Isn't she 4'11" or something?  It's like the man with the small penis who drives a sports car to feel secure about his manhood. 

And short women think they're such hardasses.  From my experience, they're the bitchiest butchiest little things, especially when intimidated by women who have what they lack.  But the drugs won't help in that department, they'll just make everything worse.  I guess that's what happened to Jodi...now it's all downhill for her.     

Ohmigosh!!!  I can’t believe this BULL SHIAT!!  Is this jealousy, or ignorance, or what??!

Uhhh…unless we ALL took lie detector tests and/or were rigorously, randomly, drug-tested to say International Olympic Weightlifting Federation standards…and found “clean”…then, who is really telling the truth when they claim to be doping free on these boards??!

However, if you are a veteran BBer, then you should be familiar with the typical “look” of the BB/AAS drug-using FBBer…with her relatively LARGE and heavily muscled physique, COMBINED with her extreme vascularity, when they are in their pre-contest condition (assuming you don’t get an opportunity to meet her in person and hear her deep, husky, voice).   

The obvious BIG difference between the female BBers that are BB/AAS drug-users from the all-natural FBBers are the BIG difference in their relative muscle-belly-size when in their pre-contest conditions!  A natural FBBer, in her pre-contest condition, is normally going to be able to display and extreme/lean definition/vascularity, but at the concurrent EXPENSE of large muscle-size!  Not so, with the typical BB/AAS drug-using FBBer in their pre-contest condition…i.e. they combine vascularity with concurrent large muscle-bellys/size!

Come on guys!   You only have to look at Jodi’s previous post history, her brief autobios. where she has described the “trials and tribulations” she has gone through in her competitive BB journey, her descriptions of her training regimens, her efforts to avoid the doping route, and the sacrifices she has made! 

Also, look at Jodi's pics. when she is in her pre-contest condtion...lean and hard with normal feminine-looking muscle size...in sharp contrast to the typical AAS drug-using FBBers' pre-contest look!   I mean, if Jodi doesn’t come across as the “real thing” and doesn’t sound “credible” in claiming she is an all-natural competitive amateur FBBer, then NO ONE on these boards does!!

Jezebelle, sweetiepie, I have some sad news for you…if you are lucky enough in this life to survive and actually get older…i.e. live into your 30’s…40’s…50’s…it’s progressively “downhill” physically!  However, you heavy-juicers don’t have to worry; since you’ll usually be falling over dead in your late 30’s or late 40’s…but hey, cutting your normal lifespan approximately IN-HALF is O.K., as long as you can look like a FREAK…right??!


^I believe Jodi when she says she's drug free, however, you do have a point about dieted down females.....they don't look attractive.
It's not feminine.
Women just can't leave their bodies alone.......the way they were meant to be.

Something about staying "natural" eludes women......

Why can't they just be who they are?

Duhhh…uhhh…it seems that in these FBB contests the contest judges want the women to “look more and more like men” (i.e. with big AND vascular muscularity)!  Seems it’s been progressively sadly more that way for some twenty-five years now!!  Uhhh…methinks that seems to be what has kept these women from looking the way “they were meant to be”!!?

And, it wasn’t enough for these women to just diet down and merely look extremely defined/vascular; BUT, rather they have to display concurrent large muscle-size as well!!  Damn those dumb-ass BB organizations, and their judges/contest-rules, which have managed to RUIN pro FBB!!!

Such an UNFEMININE pre-contest “look” for pro. FBBers, set by organizations, like the IFBB and NPC, sadly led to the progressive use of more and more BB/AAS drugs by these competitive FBBers  to achieve this MASCULINE combined ABNORMAL large-muscle-mass-AND-vascularity pre-contest look!!


Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: CT on January 19, 2006, 04:40:37 PM
My girlfriend Christiane (www.christianelamy-muscle.com) is a 100% lifetime natural and is decent looking. Before any of you go on doubting her natural status, she has competed in shows where she was tested according to the IOC drug test standards by an IOC approved lab. She worked 50 hours + per week on a farm for the most of 10 years and has been training hard for 20 years. She is also the strictest eat I've ever seen.
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: robocop on January 19, 2006, 04:47:57 PM
My girlfriend Christiane (www.christianelamy-muscle.com) is a 100% lifetime natural and is decent looking. Before any of you go on doubting her natural status, she has competed in shows where she was tested according to the IOC drug test standards by an IOC approved lab. She worked 50 hours + per week on a farm for the most of 10 years and has been training hard for 20 years. She is also the strictest eat I've ever seen.

Stop with your 100 percent lifetime Natural statements >:(

or else there will be trouble
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: CT on January 19, 2006, 04:58:19 PM
Stop with your 100 percent lifetime Natural statements >:(

or else there will be trouble

How so? What kind of statements do you want me to make??? She is natural and always has been. She might look "huge" there standing alone. But she is actually 128lbs on 5'4" ... nothing earth shattering! As I mentionned she has been training hard for 20 years. She started training for bodybuilding right away at 14 years of age and started competing at 16. She began working on a farm at 18 and did so for 10-12 years while training. Always ate perfectly. She actually had no idea what steroids really were until 3-4 years ago when she met me (I'm the head of the Quebec Bodybuilding anti-doping comittee, and affiliate of the IFBB). She knew they existed and that some guys were taking them. But she grew up in a town where almost nobody knew what weight training was! There was only one gym, and that was in the basement of a guy in town! Not exactly your drug scene hotbed!!!
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Farcry on January 19, 2006, 05:07:36 PM
CT you said your girlfriend is decent looking, thats mean >:(  You should say she is hot or really good looking not decent
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: CT on January 19, 2006, 05:17:52 PM
CT you said your girlfriend is decent looking, thats mean >:(  You should say she is hot or really good looking not decent

Thank you, I appreciate it. I'm sure she will appreciate her kind word. In our town, bodybuilding (natural or not ... for the average person, a guy/gal with muscle isa guy/gal with muscle... it's the same thing for them) is almost frowned upon so she doesn't get complimented as often as a women needs ;)
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: The Luke on January 19, 2006, 07:19:04 PM
Pass on a lustful comment from me CT, she's smokin' hot!

If I walked past her in the street I'd tip my hat and say "Howerya!"

... it's an old Irish phrase, a contraction of "How are you?", much in the same way that the words became "Howdy" in the United States. However in Ireland it's meaning is a little more informal, less "Hello" than "I'm interested if you are..." or words to that effect.

Still it's less cumbersome than the Gaelic version:
Cailin deas agus trom... is feidir liom go bhfuil gach rannphairti lairde lena cheile!

The Luke
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: dr.chimps on January 19, 2006, 07:34:53 PM
Hmmmmm....a naif where steroids are concerned, perhaps, but from photos, she is no innocent to the plastic surgery. The big city boobies kinda ruin the wholesome farm lass angle.
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: CT on January 19, 2006, 07:38:35 PM
Hmmmmm....a naif where steroids are concerned, perhaps, but from photos, she is no innocent to the plastic surgery. The big city boobies kinda ruin the wholesome farm lass angle.

Touché
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: DIVISION on January 19, 2006, 09:23:03 PM
My girlfriend Christiane (www.christianelamy-muscle.com) is a 100% lifetime natural and is decent looking. Before any of you go on doubting her natural status, she has competed in shows where she was tested according to the IOC drug test standards by an IOC approved lab. She worked 50 hours + per week on a farm for the most of 10 years and has been training hard for 20 years. She is also the strictest eat I've ever seen.

Props, CT.

Her face looks smooth and feminine.

I'd say she looks natural to me.  The best of both worlds as far as I'm concerned.

Glad she's stayed true and hasn't crossed over to the "Dark Side".




DIV
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: genex on January 19, 2006, 11:27:36 PM
I've met Christiane and she's very feminine and a really nice woman too.  Actually I guess those are shots I took.  She looked great standing on the National stage too although she obviously wasn't the biggest girl there, but she was very well conditioned.  Hopefully those type of physiques will be rewarded this year.
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Disgusted on January 20, 2006, 12:03:30 AM
Stop with your 100 percent lifetime Natural statements >:(

or else there will be trouble

I have no problem believing that she is natural. Diet alone can give you those kind of striations. Props to her.
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Tre on January 20, 2006, 02:17:02 AM
ALL-NATURAL Persian FBBer and Figure/Fitness competitor/model MERCEDES KHANI...

(http://www.mercedes-khani.com/images/portfolio/swimsuit/mksf20040043.jpg)

Love, love, LOVE a Persian girl willing to get a little bit naughty for the camera. 
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Tre on January 20, 2006, 02:22:32 AM

I say Christiane is beautiful and hope to meet her myself this year. 

Thanks for the hook-up, Christian!
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Jodi on January 20, 2006, 06:00:53 AM
Ahhh...home sweet home.  I was feeling a little left out as of late without all the Jodi bashing.  It's nice to see the latest round has begun just as I'm beginning to get ready for my shows this year.  All the more reason for me to be the bitch I am in the gym and do what I do...drug free...again.  It's okay.  Don't hate because you don't have the gumption or patience or self control to do it this way.  Over fifteen years of busting my ass in the gym and working hard, people.  What do some of you know about that?

Get a life...get a job...get to a gym.  Do something besides make yourselves look completely incompetent, dense, and lazy.
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: dr.chimps on January 20, 2006, 07:37:55 AM
Ahhh...home sweet home.  I was feeling a little left out as of late without all the Jodi bashing.  It's nice to see the latest round has begun just as I'm beginning to get ready for my shows this year.  All the more reason for me to be the bitch I am in the gym and do what I do...drug free...again.  It's okay.  Don't hate because you don't have the gumption or patience or self control to do it this way.  Over fifteen years of busting my ass in the gym and working hard, people.  What do some of you know about that?

Get a life...get a job...get to a gym.  Do something besides make yourselves look completely incompetent, dense, and lazy.
Jodi, I don't think the 'hating' is for the training, the shows, etc. - those efforts cannot help but be respected. I think it is for the attention whoring you do on these boards. Your efforts push excessive and are seen as both trying and cloying. Maybe tone it down.     
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: CT on January 20, 2006, 08:02:33 AM
I say Christiane is beautiful and hope to meet her myself this year. 

Thanks for the hook-up, Christian!

Thanks Tre and Gene! Gene did some amazing work with Christiane. She didn't get to work directly win Tre yet, but maybe in the near future (hopefully :) ).

Thanks for the positive comments guys, I'm sure she'll appreciate it.
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Richard2004 on January 20, 2006, 11:05:18 AM
Ahhh...home sweet home.  I was feeling a little left out as of late without all the Jodi bashing.  It's nice to see the latest round has begun just as I'm beginning to get ready for my shows this year.  All the more reason for me to be the bitch I am in the gym and do what I do...drug free...again.  It's okay.  Don't hate because you don't have the gumption or patience or self control to do it this way.  Over fifteen years of busting my ass in the gym and working hard, people.  What do some of you know about that?

Get a life...get a job...get to a gym.  Do something besides make yourselves look completely incompetent, dense, and lazy.

This thread was originally intended to be a tribute to the very apparent all-natural female bodybuilders who have had the patience and dedication (and necessary thick-skin and courage!) to build their lovely 100% FEMININE figures through years of intelligent weight-training/bodybuilding!

Also, this thread was intended to try and show female Getbig website visitors that it is truly possible to develop the female figure beautifully (and build tremendous strength!), NATURALLY, and in a HEALTHY fashion, as the original pioneers of weight-training/physical-culture intended (and demonstrated over-and-over in their publications!)…i.e. men like Bernarr McFadden, Mark Berry, George Jowett, Earle Liedermann, Peary Rader, and yes, Bob Hoffman, and Joe Weider...and have been so aptly displayed by women like Katrina Sandwina, Abbye Stockton, Jan Todd, and legions more (some already beautifully highlighted on this thread)!

In this era of a bodybuilding culture/lifestyle replete with sordid, illegal drug-using/drug-dealing, practitioners, who want overnight BB progress and are willing to sacrifice their precious health to get "freakishly big and ripped” at ANY PRICE (what stupidity and weakness of character!), it is understandable that the few women (like Jodi), and men, who courageously publicly proclaim, practice, and support, the all-natural path to bodybuilding success are going to be disbelieved, ridiculed, personally insulted, called names, and even threatened…just consider the drug-crazed/psychotic, ignorant, weak character, sources of these detractors!!!
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: DIVISION on January 21, 2006, 07:54:36 PM
Alot of these threads are intended to "educate" women/the general public about bodybuilding.  Being a female and loving to workout, there are no worthy female role models and nothing to aspire to, especially when everyone is cheating. 

From what I've seen, female bodybuilders take one of two paths:  STEROIDS or PORNOGRAPHY (...or both).  And most of them are hypocrites for criticizing the integrity of the industry (as it if ever had any) but then ultimately following suit.

^Concur.

I think it's pathetic that some of these women turn to pornography, yet still expect to be taken seriously when they compete.

Melissa Detwiller comes to mind.  I have nothing against porn at all, just that you can't do that on one hand and then enter shows and not expect that to count against you in the minds of some judges and the fans as well.

Doesn't work that way.

Oh yeah.......almost forgot.......Denise Masino.   ::)

She is the epitome of this......




DIV
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: The True Adonis on January 22, 2006, 12:33:53 AM
Why are pornography and bodybuilding so intertwined?  Women like this are bad examples for girls interested/starting out in bodybuilding.  This kind of exposure only brings negativity to the industry and that is why no one supports it.

http://media.putfile.com/jodimillerhoetel


What really has amused me about Jodi is that she always throws up that she has a degree in English and soem other degree but yet she chooses to do that for money.  If it is not for money, is it some kind of perversion perhaps?  It is a trend with all competing girls.
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: DIVISION on January 22, 2006, 01:07:18 AM
Why are pornography and bodybuilding so intertwined?  Women like this are bad examples for girls interested/starting out in bodybuilding.  This kind of exposure only brings negativity to the industry and that is why no one supports it.

http://media.putfile.com/jodimillerhoetel

^I'm not sure what to say.....

You can't assume that Jodi did anything sexual from that clip, but it sure implies alot.

She has a BA in English, so she's intelligent, though she makes decisions that belie that intelligence at times it seems.




DIV
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: 24KT on January 22, 2006, 01:14:17 AM
I f@#in hate tatoos and peircings on women.

Oh my goodness. What about ears?  :o  Do ears count? My ears are pierced?  ;)
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Thin Lizzy on January 22, 2006, 01:27:33 AM
Jodi bringing her "A" game!!
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Jodi on January 22, 2006, 01:35:35 AM
I'm so sick and tired of the slanderous statements and have written an e-mail to Ron to remove the copyrighted video (Brian Moss's lawyer has been contacted each time that video is linked; only he and I legally own the rights to that video) as well as a banning of both Jezebelle and The True Adonis.

This board has gone downhill.  Very few women with true identities rather than anonymous labels openly post here on a regular basis, except to garner business for their sites or for contest votes.  The female community does not take this board seriously, partly because one cannot win for losing.  I ignore the malicious statements and they continue regardless.  I defend myself and state the truth, and I get bombarded by people I have never met, people who are anonymous and seem to have nothing better to do with their lives but to judge strangers.

Ron needs to run a tighter ship or he will watch all of the good female competitors disappear.  Ron, you know it already...most of us have already walked away.

Thin Lizzy, thank you for the compliment.  I will continue to bring my A game every single time I step on stage.
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: The True Adonis on January 22, 2006, 01:46:01 AM
Its a free clip Jodi. A free Preview.hahahahahah

MELTDOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: The True Adonis on January 22, 2006, 01:56:10 AM
I didn't do anything sexual in that clip or any other.  You do not see my nipples.  You do not see my crotch.  I do not play with myself nor stick anything inside of me.  I display a hard-earned physique in Victoria's Secret lingerie.  What a horrible, horrible, horrible person I am for doing that, right?  Whatever.

I'm so sick and tired of the slanderous statements and have written an e-mail to Ron to remove the copyrighted video (Brian Moss's lawyer has been contacted each time that video is linked; only he and I legally own the rights to that video) as well as a banning of both Jezebelle and The True Adonis.

This board has gone downhill.  Very few women with true identities rather than anonymous labels openly post here on a regular basis, except to garner business for their sites or for contest votes.  The female community does not take this board seriously, partly because one cannot win for losing.  I ignore the malicious statements and they continue regardless.  I defend myself and state the truth, and I get bombarded by people I have never met, people who are anonymous and seem to have nothing better to do with their lives but to judge strangers.

Ron needs to run a tighter ship or he will watch all of the good female competitors disappear.  Ron, you know it already...most of us have already walked away.

Thin Lizzy, thank you for the compliment.  I will continue to bring my A game every single time I step on stage.

I have seen the whole video when it was on Mayhem.  You were like sucking your fingers and batting your eyes.  Brian Moss?  Nobody even cares about him.  Look at his stupid ass site.  Look at you.  You are featured on a site with a naked Murderer (Kelly Ryan) and you honestly think that casts you in a good light?   What is wrong with you?  Show me one "Free Preview" or picture on Brian Moss` site that isn`t intended to induce a sexual thought?  How come all of the videos are shot in some shitty 20 dollar hotel room on the bed?  Since when did it take laying on  a bed in underwear  to display your "hard work".  Is that really the best way your "hard work" can be displayed? 

Honestly,  are you happy doing that to yourself?  Would you want an aspiring young girl to see that?  What is the point of it?   
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Jodi on January 22, 2006, 02:01:26 AM
I did just view the link, and yes, it is a preview, and I just wrote to Ron to state that.  The link to the full video has been posted previously, and when Brian was notified, he stated that he would make sure the material was removed immediately.  He was disgruntled with the copyrighted material being made available anywhere else other than my site or his.  So, one can understand I would jump to conclusions when I see a link to a video and subsequent judgments of me.

Either way, the slanderous and libelous remarks need to stop now.

Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: The True Adonis on January 22, 2006, 02:09:34 AM
I did just view the link, and yes, it is a preview, and I just wrote to Ron to state that.  The link to the full video has been posted previously, and when Brian was notified, he stated that he would make sure the material was removed immediately.  He was disgruntled with the copyrighted material being made available anywhere else other than my site or his.  So, one can understand I would jump to conclusions when I see a link to a video and subsequent judgments of me.

Either way, the slanderous and libelous remarks need to stop now.



Come back to reality.   I was just offering a commentary on your "performance."  What do you think if you showed that clip to 10 random people and then asked them what they thought about it?  Do you think they would say, "Wow, Wonderful performance!"?   

What is even stranger, I saw an online interview with you when you were speaking about the integrity of the sport and how it should be rescued.   Do you think your videos further the integrity or did you just do it for the money ala` Joanna Thomas?
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: jeffrey. on January 22, 2006, 02:12:06 AM
Come back to reality.   I was just offering a commentary on your "performance."  What do you think if you showed that clip to 10 random people and then asked them what they thought about it?  Do you think they would say, "Wow, Wonderful performance!"?   

What is even stranger, I saw an online interview with you when you were speaking about the integrity of the sport and how it should be rescued.   Do you think your videos further the integrity or did you just do it for the money ala` Joanna Thomas?
i don't think you can compare what joanna thomas does and what jodi does.
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: The True Adonis on January 22, 2006, 02:14:34 AM
I did just view the link, and yes, it is a preview, and I just wrote to Ron to state that.  The link to the full video has been posted previously, and when Brian was notified, he stated that he would make sure the material was removed immediately.  He was disgruntled with the copyrighted material being made available anywhere else other than my site or his.  So, one can understand I would jump to conclusions when I see a link to a video and subsequent judgments of me.

Either way, the slanderous and libelous remarks need to stop now.



slan·der (slăn'dər)
n.
Law. Oral communication of false statements injurious to a person's reputation.
A false and malicious statement or report about someone.



What in the world is slanderous?  Where have I stated something FALSE?   You are off.
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Jodi on January 22, 2006, 02:15:27 AM
And look at you, Adonis.  You are choosing to publicly judge and slander someone who hasn't said word one about you on this board.

If you have a problem with me, then act like a man and talk to me directly.

This goes for anyone:  if you don't like my pictures, then simply don't look at them.  Simple as that.
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: The True Adonis on January 22, 2006, 02:24:34 AM
And look at you, Adonis.  You are choosing to publicly judge and slander someone who hasn't said word one about you on this board.

If you have a problem with me, then act like a man and talk to me directly.

This goes for anyone:  if you don't like my pictures, then simply don't look at them.  Simple as that.

li·bel (lī'bəl)
n.

A false publication, as in writing, print, signs, or pictures, that damages a person's reputation.
The act of presenting such material to the public.


To be Libelious or Slanderous the matter in question has to be FALSE.  That is YOU in the video and your actions ARE sexual in nature.   Again, you are off.  Im not attacking you.  You did the video and the video is presented as such.  Who  do you really think that your videos and pictures are marketed to?  I can tell you.   The Chad Mowers, Tres and anyone looking for a 5 mintues of "self-time".  You want to play the all high and mighty game, like you are above the rest of your fitness and bodybuilding brethren, when you fall in the exact same category. 



Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: DIVISION on January 22, 2006, 02:33:38 AM
If you have a problem with me, then act like a man and talk to me directly.

This goes for anyone:  if you don't like my pictures, then simply don't look at them.  Simple as that.

Jodi,

I don't think the issue is with people thinking you are doing porn per say, but with the implication of you being on the same website with other fitness women who are.  Obviously it's your choice to do so, but to think you won't have people who will judge you for it (rightly or wrongly) is unrealistic.  As Adonis explained, this guy Brian Moss has other women doing pornography on his site and you being associated with the site will bring all the baggage along with it, essentially lumping you in with the women who did choose to pose nude.

I can appreciate the fact that you probably did it for the money, there's nothing wrong with that.  Just be aware of the criticism that will come with it, that's all.

This has always been my opinion on this issue, as you well know.  Nothing's changed on that front.  I didn't like the webcam idea, either.....

Nothing personal, Jodi, it's just how I feel on this.....




DIV
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Jezebelle on January 22, 2006, 02:38:16 AM
I didn't do anything sexual in that clip or any other.  You do not see my nipples.  You do not see my crotch.  I do not play with myself nor stick anything inside of me.  I display a hard-earned physique in Victoria's Secret lingerie.  What a horrible, horrible, horrible person I am for doing that, right?  Whatever.

I'm so sick and tired of the slanderous statements and have written an e-mail to Ron to remove the copyrighted video (Brian Moss's lawyer has been contacted each time that video is linked; only he and I legally own the rights to that video) as well as a banning of both Jezebelle and The True Adonis.

This board has gone downhill.  Very few women with true identities rather than anonymous labels openly post here on a regular basis, except to garner business for their sites or for contest votes.  The female community does not take this board seriously, partly because one cannot win for losing.  I ignore the malicious statements and they continue regardless.  I defend myself and state the truth, and I get bombarded by people I have never met, people who are anonymous and seem to have nothing better to do with their lives but to judge strangers.

Ron needs to run a tighter ship or he will watch all of the good female competitors disappear.  Ron, you know it already...most of us have already walked away.

Thin Lizzy, thank you for the compliment.  I will continue to bring my A game every single time I step on stage.

"Slanderous statements?"  Did I say anything false?  Is that not you in the video?  I am simply voicing my opinion about a FREE PREVIEW video clip available to the ENTIRE world.  Ban me for what?  Obviously there's something you're upset about.  Are you gonna get this bent out of shape over one woman's opinion of you?  Do you expect rave reviews on your video just because you're Jodi Miller?  Who the hell is that?  You want me banned because I don't kiss your ass?  What have I done wrong?  This isn't Mayhem.      
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Jezebelle on January 22, 2006, 05:38:54 PM
I didn't do anything sexual in that clip or any other.  You do not see my nipples.  You do not see my crotch.  I do not play with myself nor stick anything inside of me.  I display a hard-earned physique in Victoria's Secret lingerie.  What a horrible, horrible, horrible person I am for doing that, right?  Whatever.

I'm so sick and tired of the slanderous statements and have written an e-mail to Ron to remove the copyrighted video (Brian Moss's lawyer has been contacted each time that video is linked; only he and I legally own the rights to that video) as well as a banning of both Jezebelle and The True Adonis.

This board has gone downhill.  Very few women with true identities rather than anonymous labels openly post here on a regular basis, except to garner business for their sites or for contest votes.  The female community does not take this board seriously, partly because one cannot win for losing.  I ignore the malicious statements and they continue regardless.  I defend myself and state the truth, and I get bombarded by people I have never met, people who are anonymous and seem to have nothing better to do with their lives but to judge strangers.

Ron needs to run a tighter ship or he will watch all of the good female competitors disappear.  Ron, you know it already...most of us have already walked away.

Thin Lizzy, thank you for the compliment.  I will continue to bring my A game every single time I step on stage.

I am new to Getbig.  But I thought this was the “Gossip and Opinions” board where you can post “whatever is on your mind, and discuss all.”   I voice my opinion about something real—no baseless attack—and someone has five of my posts deleted from this thread.  I was simply sharing my thoughts on why certain material is not healthy for the bodybuilding industry. 

Could the mods please tell me what is and what is not allowed to be said?  Can I not post valid links, state facts about material on the free website www.shemuscle.com, quote another member, question another member, or say the words “pornography” or “meltdown?”

I am absolutely sure I am not alone in my opinion on the matter discussed in this thread.  Why have I been singled out?  Adonis and Div have expressed the same opinions on this thread.  Why didn't they're posts get erased?  I joined this board because I thought it allowed for more freedom than others--i.e. Mayhem.  I’ve noticed that I am one of very few female Getbig members.  If you plan on keeping them and gaining support from more females, then the double standards must stop.


Also Jodi,

If you can’t handle my commentary about you and your videos, then why don’t you contact me personally (just like you asked Adonis to) instead of crying to the mods? 
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Jezebelle on January 22, 2006, 06:52:13 PM
You shouldn't delete my posts because you think I am Adonis.  .  He didn't tell me to post any of this. 
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Farcry on January 22, 2006, 09:05:55 PM
why do you care what Jodi does if you dont like her stop looking at her pictures and stop posting a response
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Richard2004 on January 23, 2006, 05:43:30 PM
Has anyone stopped to think the ridiculous, ignorant, naive, direction this thread has taken??!

First of all, female sexual images/innuendos are used to market just about EVERYTHING in our materialistic, exploitive, money-hungry, uptight, “cart-before-the horse” society!  A society that gets all “bent-out-of-shape” over sexual images that children might see, but hardly “bats-an-eye” (relatively speaking!) at the brutal, graphic, violence the mass media regularly “feeds” our impressionable youth…and, then we act “shocked” at their age-bracket’s horrific crime rate!???.

Yes, accomplished weight-trained women with beautiful figures market themselves on the web as apparent “sex objects’ in suggestive poses…e.g. Jodi, Rhonda, Dina, Melissa, etc…and where one draws the line as to where “a tasteful display of their feminine physical charms ends and pornography begins” is strictly a matter of personal PERCEPTION.

Most all of us would agree that photos of Denise Masino (and her photo/video companions) in MEM, along with her advertised videos, would qualify as real “pornography” with their blatant sexual intent…e.g. placing objects in their vaginas, lesbian poses/activities, etc…as PERCEIVED by the general public. 

However, Dina, Jodi, and Rhonda, on the other hand, present themselves in a much more
artistic and tasteful display of their sexuality in their pics./videos, that the general public would not PERCEIVE as being “pornographic” in nature (by relative comparison)!  As one of these gals said, “their pics. are tasteful photos that they would not be ashamed to show their families (words to the effect)”!

It is like comparing the tasteful, artistic, female photo displays in Playboy mag. (similar to Dina, e.g) versus those with a definite very apparent PERCEIVED pornographic slant/intent of the Penthouse and Hustler mags. approach (e.g. similar to Denise Masino’s and MEM).

However, all such photo/video displays are presently “legal” and, if you don’t like it…simply don’t look at it, or seek it out!

Sadly, all of the Getbig forum never-ending personal attacks, libelous comments, ignorant stereotyping, and name-calling (all usually directed at total strangers!??) is the height of publicly displaying ones' ignorance and immaturity!  But, I suppose this is “freedom of expression” in its worst light!!

 
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Richard2004 on January 24, 2006, 02:11:52 PM
Geting this thread back on track...ALL-NATURAL female bodybuilding competitor: KRISTI SANDERS...

(http://www.trulyhuge.com/kristisanders/DSC00140.JPG)
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Richard2004 on January 24, 2006, 04:49:19 PM
Of course, long, long, before (i.e. some 30-40 years before!!) the "resurgence" of female bodybuilding in the 1980's, with the likes of Lisa Lyons, Rachel McLish, Cory Everson, etc., there was ABBYE "PUDGY" STOCKTON; who was probably the "original" female bodybuilder...during the era of the 1940's and 1950's, when it was considered "unfeminine" to exercise and sweat!!  And, Abbye was as ALL-NATURAL a female bodybuilder as you can get!

Abbye Stockton's VERY INSPIRATIONAL biography/story is available at the URL...

http://www.aafla.org/SportsLibrary/IGH/IGH0201/IGH0201c.pdf

As Jan Todd stated in her above cited excellent article on Abbye..."every woman bodybuilder who puts on a swimsuit and steps up on the posing dias, every woman weightlifter who strains under a clean and jerk, and every woman powerlifter who fights through the pull of a heavy deadlift owes a debt of gratitude to Abbye 'Pudgy' Stockton".

Below, are some inspirational pics. of Abbye...and she achieved these impressive results in developing her figure through weight-training way back in the '40's/'50's "dark ages" of knowledge on exercise/diet!!

(http://www.t-nation.com/forum_images/797066.1130278747716.PudgyStockton1.jpg)

(http://www.t-nation.com/forum_images/.1130279186086.pudgy_stockton2.jpg)

(http://www.t-nation.com/forum_images/.1130280973076.PS5.jpg)

(http://www.t-nation.com/forum_images/.1130279161783.pudgy.jpg)
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Richard2004 on January 27, 2006, 05:17:56 PM
All-natural recreational female bodybuilder, WWE DIVA/wrestler, and "super dancer" STACEY/STACY KIEBLER...
(http://www.strangecosmos.com/images/content/104771.jpg)
With a little follow-up bio. info...
WWE starlet, known for her loooong legs and dazzling smile. A former Baltimore Ravens cheerleader who won a contest to be a Nitro Girl in WCW, which led to ringside roles Alexandra York and Ms. Hancock. Ultimately, those long legs and short skirts transcended character names and she was just Stacey Kiebler. Crowned Miss Galaxy in 1998, Stacey rose to even greater fame when WWE gobbled up WCW. She in a skimpy ballgown will make you forget all about Kelly Monaco.
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Hedgehog on September 28, 2006, 01:38:43 PM
I just want to hold you. I just want to hold you. Oh yeah.
Am I in too deep?
Have I lost my mind?
Well I don`t care.
You`re here tonight.

I can be your hero baby.
I can kiss away the pain. Oh yeah.
I will stand by you forever.
You can take my breath away.
TAdonis...
Quoting Enrique Iglesias lyrics...

What the hellz are happening to you?

Snap out of it Mr MTV-Casanova. We need you here on planet earth! :-\

YIP
Zack

What happened to Richard 2004?

YIP
Zack
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Blockhead on September 28, 2006, 01:48:26 PM

 I think Jody-Jo Miller has odd shape legs

 I also think she is a an injection(no pun intended) of life into a dying 'sport'. Female BB never needed anyone so bad to ressurect it.
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Richard2004 on November 14, 2006, 07:12:31 PM
MARY ELIZABETH LADO is an ALL-NATURAL Figure/Fitness competitor (she even has qualified for IFBB Pro. Figure)!

Truly, all-natural FBBers like Mary are "giant slayers" on such a very UNEVEN playing field...against the druggies and the "artifical/plastic" augmented/enhanced competitive Figure/Fitness (not to even mention FBB!) gals...

Stats:
Height 5'7"
Weight 134
Measurements 36-28-36
Size 4
Hair Light Brown
Eyes Brown

Brief autobio:
I was born in New Orleans, Louisiana on September 16,1978 and raised in Metairie, Louisiana. I have two brothers, Jose 21 and Carlos 19. If you wonder, “Why such Spanish names?” My mother Marianela is from Cuba and my father Jose Ramon is from Spain.

Since the age of nine I began to play sports such as volleyball, basketball, track, soccer, and softball. Growing up I couldn’t help but to be a tomboy with my two brothers . In my middle school years and up through high school I won many district titles. Once graduating from high school I earned an athletic scholarship to Chipola Junior College to play fast pitch softball for two years. As a pitcher, I was nicknamed “Scary Mary” due to the fact that you would never know where the pitch was going to end up. Academically I earned an associate of arts in physical education and Who’s Who Among American Junior Colleges.

I then moved on to receive an athletic scholarship in softball to finish my studies at Georgia Southwestern State University. When I completed my softball years I was then an assistant coach in softball to finish my bachelors in sociology. When my college days were over it was back to Louisiana. There I began to fool around with weights on a daily basis as a hobby or sport. I met a bodybuilder who asked me if I ever thought about competing. I never really new there was such a thing? I watched my first figure competition that summer in 2002 and decided I wanted to try it. I always admired the toned athletes.

I did my first show in New Orleans in 2003, where I placed 1st in the tall class. I then did the NPC Louisiana and got second, the NPC Greater Gulf States was my last local show where I placed 1st and overall. My final show that year was the NPC National Figure Championships. Let’s just say I took that as a learning experience.

My goal the following year was to be a professional figure competitor. I aimed for the NPC Junior Nationals and NPC National Figure Championships that year in 2004. I placed second at Junior Nationals and won 1st place in the tall class at NPC National Figure Championships and overall. Thanks to the support of my family My dream was now a reality.

I currently work at a 4 star hotel as an assistant manager when I am not competing. In the near future I would like to take up personal training.

Awards/Achievement:
Fitness Experience
·   2005 IFBB CALIFORNIA PRO FIGURE-OVERALL
·   2005 IFBB PITTSBURGH PRO FIGURE-OVERALL
·   2005 IFBB FIGURE INTERNATIONAL-THIRD PLACE
·   2004 NPC NATIONAL FIGURE CHAMPIONSHIPS-OVERALL (IFBB PROFESSIONAL QUALIFIER)
·   2004 NPC JUNIOR NATIONAL FIGURE CHAMPIONSHIPS-SECOND PLACE CLASS D
·   2003 NPC GREATER GULF STATES FIGURE CHAMPIONSHIPS-OVERALL
·   2003 NPC NEW ORLEANS FIGURE CHAMPIONSHIPS-FIRST PLACE TALL CLASS
·   2003 NPC LOUISIANA STATE FIGURE CHAMPIONSHIPS-SECOND PLACE TALL CLASS

Modeling/Print Experience
·   VYO-TECH, Contracted athlete to endorse & promote Vyo-Tech products through 3/06
·   NPC NEWS (COVER)
·   NPC NEWS ONLINE
·   FLEX MAGAZINE
·   IRONMAN MAGAZINE
·   ALLURINGFITNESS.COM
·   BIO-ENGINEERED SUPPLEMENTS & NUTRITION
·   MET-Rx

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Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Hedgehog on February 13, 2007, 02:00:05 PM
I think Jody-Jo Miller has odd shape legs

 I also think she is a an injection(no pun intended) of life into a dying 'sport'. Female BB never needed anyone so bad to ressurect it.

In other words, you don't aspire to be her Hero? 8)

-Hedge
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Blockhead on February 13, 2007, 02:06:35 PM
In other words, you don't aspire to be her Hero? 8)

-Hedge
WTF possessed you to ressurect this one?

 I think she has odd shaped legs but I also think JodiJo-JodiJoJoJo-Jo Miller is an innovator.

 One of my favorite Texans.
Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Richard2004 on February 13, 2007, 05:11:26 PM
Gee gollies guys, thanks for resurrecting this bygone thread of mine depicting the beautiful, shapely, figures that girls/women can develop through ALL-NATURAL weight-training/bodybuilding!!!

No juiced-to-the-gills "she-he's" here!!

Ahhh yes, JODI MILLER, the quintessential all-natural female bodybuilder...

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Title: Re: What Girls/Women Can Expect From NATURAL Bodybuilding and Diet ALONE!
Post by: Kwon_2 on October 21, 2014, 08:58:00 AM
(http://www.jeanettefreed.com/images/gallery/bg16.jpg)

Courtesy of Jeanette Freed's site (new IFBB pro figure competitor).

Nikki Warner, Cindy Martinez, me, and Jeanette Freed backstage at the Junior Nationals this year in Chicago.  More of what hard work, years of dedication, and comraderie can bring to the physique and to the stage.  By the way, both Cindy and Jeanette are mothers!

Very nice, thanks.