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Title: Why do most of the IFBB sanctioned contests have shitty prize money?
Post by: King Shizzo on September 15, 2014, 08:14:07 AM
I dont see the point of any pro trying to compete in anything other then the Olympia or Arnold Classic.  The promoters of these small shows obviously make a decent profit, as they continue to hold the contests year after year.

I am assuming that the only reason most pros compete in these "small shows" is to qualify for the Olympia, or to get a name.

$10,000 dollars (before taxes) for first place, is just pathetic.

The sponsors should be to blame as well. All of these tightwad supplement companies need to put a little more back into the industry that makes them.

Who is the current rep for the pros?

There needs to be a minimum of 25k for first place, in all IFBB sanctioned, pro contests.
Title: Re: Why do most of the IFBB sanctioned contests have shitty prize money?
Post by: Dr.J on September 15, 2014, 08:24:41 AM
I agree.
Title: Re: Why do most of the IFBB sanctioned contests have shitty prize money?
Post by: MAXX on September 15, 2014, 08:26:20 AM
Because nobody watches it besides this small bb cult following

Cricket doesn't have much pricemoney either for that reason
Title: Re: Why do most of the IFBB sanctioned contests have shitty prize money?
Post by: King Shizzo on September 15, 2014, 08:30:35 AM
Because nobody watches it besides this small bb cult following

Cricket doesn't have much pricemoney either for that reason
There is money that can be added from the sponsors. Kids still aspire to look like Superman or the Rock or the latest, Muscled, action hero.

The top supplement companies (and the IFBB) are making money hand over fist.

Time to give some of it back.
Title: Re: Why do most of the IFBB sanctioned contests have shitty prize money?
Post by: Dokey111 on September 15, 2014, 08:34:46 AM
Lots of money in, little money out.  That's a good business.  Like insurance.
Title: Re: Why do most of the IFBB sanctioned contests have shitty prize money?
Post by: Rascal full on September 15, 2014, 08:40:05 AM
I don't know how most of these guys afford all the drugs and food to get to competition level in the first place... ???
Title: Re: Why do most of the IFBB sanctioned contests have shitty prize money?
Post by: Skorp1o on September 15, 2014, 08:46:25 AM
I don't know how most of these guys afford all the drugs and food to get to competition level in the first place... ???

Ask Nick Toscani
Title: Re: Why do most of the IFBB sanctioned contests have shitty prize money?
Post by: Lobstah on September 15, 2014, 08:48:48 AM
Because nobody watches it besides this small bb cult following

Cricket doesn't have much pricemoney either for that reason
This.
And additionally, no one is making their living as a competitor just like no one is making a living trying to become Miss America. Pageantry is a hobby. Just like building model ships and kayaking. You might enter a contest and win prize money for being really fucking good at your hobby, but that's definitely not why you do it.

Meanwhile, why do you give a shit? You don't even lift.
Title: Re: Why do most of the IFBB sanctioned contests have shitty prize money?
Post by: bigmc on September 15, 2014, 08:50:41 AM
This.
And additionally, no one is making their living as a competitor just like no one is making a living trying to become Miss America. Pageantry is a hobby. Just like building model ships and kayaking. You might enter a contest and win prize money for being really fucking good at your hobby, but that's definitely not why you do it.

Meanwhile, why do you give a shit? You don't even lift.

he spends days trying to think of interesting threads

including searching other sites

this is his profession
Title: Re: Why do most of the IFBB sanctioned contests have shitty prize money?
Post by: njflex on September 15, 2014, 08:53:14 AM
THE IRON MAN PRO RAN FOR DECADES and was one of the best lit /stage shows/photographs were world class from this show and it was all of 10,000,,every pro wanted the title tho.v taylor.wheeler,cormier,cutler,to name a few won it many times...
Title: Re: Why do most of the IFBB sanctioned contests have shitty prize money?
Post by: Lobstah on September 15, 2014, 08:53:50 AM
he spends days trying to think of interesting threads

including searching other sites

this is his profession
Sad but true. He could double his income by entering a pro show!
...which would require lifting. Nevermind.
Title: Re: Why do most of the IFBB sanctioned contests have shitty prize money?
Post by: King Shizzo on September 15, 2014, 08:53:58 AM
Mrs. Doubtfire trying to troll an on topic thread. This guy is a mod on multiple forums here.

Ron created these monsters.

Let's stick to the topic at hand.
Title: Re: Why do most of the IFBB sanctioned contests have shitty prize money?
Post by: King Shizzo on September 15, 2014, 08:56:03 AM
Sad but true. He could double his income by entering a pro show!
...which would require lifting. Nevermind.
You know what.....

I will give you a genuine fuck you.  I don't bother you at all.

You cling to the ball hairs of certain posters here.  Besides, I think you are ugly as fuck.

Real Talk.
Title: Re: Why do most of the IFBB sanctioned contests have shitty prize money?
Post by: Lobstah on September 15, 2014, 08:56:46 AM
Mrs. Doubtfire trying to troll an on topic thread. This guy is a mod on multiple forums here.

Ron created these monsters.

Let's stick to the topic at hand.
Answering your question is trolling? Okay Jabba, I'll leave your shitty thread alone.
Title: Re: Why do most of the IFBB sanctioned contests have shitty prize money?
Post by: Lobstah on September 15, 2014, 08:57:37 AM
You know what.....

I will give you a genuine fuck you.  I don't bother you at all.

You cling to the ball hairs of certain posters here.  Besides, I think you are ugly as fuck.

Real Talk.
Aww, we agree on something! cute.
Title: Re: Why do most of the IFBB sanctioned contests have shitty prize money?
Post by: the trainer on September 15, 2014, 09:01:17 AM
I dont see the point of any pro trying to compete in anything other then the Olympia or Arnold Classic.  The promoters of these small shows obviously make a decent profit, as they continue to hold the contests year after year.

I am assuming that the only reason most pros compete in these "small shows" is to qualify for the Olympia, or to get a name.

$10,000 dollars (before taxes) for first place, is just pathetic.

The sponsors should be to blame as well. All of these tightwad supplement companies need to put a little more back into the industry that makes them.

Who is the current rep for the pros?

There needs to be a minimum of 25k for first place, in all IFBB sanctioned, pro contests.

You should promote your own show and call it the shizzo classic or the shizzo grand prix offer 25 grand for first place and you could even guest pose, you would be a force to be reckon with in the bodybuilding industry.
Title: Re: Why do most of the IFBB sanctioned contests have shitty prize money?
Post by: polychronopolous on September 15, 2014, 09:01:42 AM
Aww, we agree on something! cute.

 ;D
Title: Re: Why do most of the IFBB sanctioned contests have shitty prize money?
Post by: King Shizzo on September 15, 2014, 09:02:26 AM
Lets get one thing straight here. I created an on-topic, bodybuilding thread on the G&O.

Bigmc cleary tried to troll me (didn't bite)

Lobstah blindly agrees with bigmc's post like a moron (She is a born follower)

Why can't grown adults keep a normal thread on topic?

I try to stay away, but you idiots keep pulling me back in.
Title: Re: Why do most of the IFBB sanctioned contests have shitty prize money?
Post by: King Shizzo on September 15, 2014, 09:03:18 AM
Aww, we agree on something! cute.
I can lose weight. You would need a face transplant.  :-*

Nothing wrong with this face sweetheart.

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=514558.0;attach=551214;image)
Title: Re: Why do most of the IFBB sanctioned contests have shitty prize money?
Post by: njflex on September 15, 2014, 09:11:20 AM
Lets get one thing straight here. I created an on-topic, bodybuilding thread on the G&O.

Bigmc cleary tried to troll me (didn't bite)

Lobstah blindly agrees with bigmc's post like a moron (She is a born follower)

Why can't grown adults keep a normal thread on topic?

I try to stay away, but you idiots keep pulling me back in.
TO stay on topic..your favorite bodybuilder shawn ray won it too..
Title: Re: Why do most of the IFBB sanctioned contests have shitty prize money?
Post by: Ronnie Rep on September 15, 2014, 09:14:42 AM
Shizzo making a legit bodybuilding post which a lot of people have brought up before. Vince McMahon was the only one who ever gave Bodybuilders a chance to make a living by training and competing. Prize money in the lower tier shows is a fucking joke.
Title: Re: Why do most of the IFBB sanctioned contests have shitty prize money?
Post by: njflex on September 15, 2014, 09:18:29 AM
Shizzo making a legit bodybuilding post which a lot of people have brought up before. Vince McMahon was the only one who ever gave Bodybuilders a chance to make a living by training and competing. Prize money in the lower tier shows is a fucking joke.
he did,but it was too circus wwf/wwe like,the characters,the announcers were embarrassing..the guys tried they really did,most turned there back early in there ifbb or recent pros and few veterans careers to go 4 it....ifbb was running strong then..best of the best..
Title: Re: Why do most of the IFBB sanctioned contests have shitty prize money?
Post by: King Shizzo on September 15, 2014, 09:19:23 AM
TO stay on topic..your favorite bodybuilder shawn ray won it too..
;D.........

True, but we need to evolve a little. I completely understand why NPC competitors lose money trying to gain a pro card, but why do average pros compete for a shit purse?

Is that the definition of the addiction these people have? Willing to lose money just to step on stage?
Title: Re: Why do most of the IFBB sanctioned contests have shitty prize money?
Post by: bigmc on September 15, 2014, 09:21:01 AM
Lets get one thing straight here. I created an on-topic, bodybuilding thread on the G&O.

Bigmc cleary tried to troll me (didn't bite)

Lobstah blindly agrees with bigmc's post like a moron (She is a born follower)

Why can't grown adults keep a normal thread on topic?

I try to stay away, but you idiots keep pulling me back in.

it was a genuine answer

are you saying you dont search other boards for ideas of what to post

how about your day in history thread its a straght copy and paste from another site

i wasnt insulting you

your over agressive response to lobstah and name calling of me is basically because its the truth

hope that helps
Title: Re: Why do most of the IFBB sanctioned contests have shitty prize money?
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on September 15, 2014, 09:21:50 AM


Meanwhile, why do you give a shit? You don't even lift.

LLLLLLOOOOOOOLLLLLL!!!!!!
Title: Re: Why do most of the IFBB sanctioned contests have shitty prize money?
Post by: King Shizzo on September 15, 2014, 09:26:07 AM
it was a genuine answer

are you saying you dont search other boards for ideas of what to post

how about your day in history thread its a straght copy and paste from another site

i wasnt insulting you

your over agressive response to lobstah and name calling of me is basically because its the truth

hope that helps
No bigmc I don't search other boards for ideas. I am only a member on Muscle Weekly (I think) and that site sucks.

My History thread is absolutely from History.com. I never claimed otherwise. The only thing I do is pick between the 20+ stories they give you for each day.

All I am saying, is to grow up sometimes and know when to troll, and when to have a normal discussion.

How long has it been since I quoted a post from you?

It seems like you are here to start shit.
Title: Re: Why do most of the IFBB sanctioned contests have shitty prize money?
Post by: King Shizzo on September 15, 2014, 09:28:25 AM
LLLLLLOOOOOOOLLLLLL!!!!!!
Says the overtanned, bent nosed loser.

Have you graduated past the 10 pound dumbells bro?
Title: Re: Why do most of the IFBB sanctioned contests have shitty prize money?
Post by: Ronnie Rep on September 15, 2014, 09:28:51 AM
he did,but it was too circus wwf/wwe like,the characters,the announcers were embarrassing..the guys tried they really did,most turned there back early in there ifbb or recent pros and few veterans careers to go 4 it....ifbb was running strong then..best of the best..
Also the the steroid scandal, with Dr. Zahorian involved with the WWF, made Vince distance himself from Bodybuilding, and put an end to the WBF.
Title: Re: Why do most of the IFBB sanctioned contests have shitty prize money?
Post by: bigmc on September 15, 2014, 09:30:21 AM
No bigmc I don't search other boards for ideas. I am only a member on Muscle Weekly (I think) and that site sucks.

My History thread is absolutely from History.com. I never claimed otherwise. The only thing I do is pick between the 20+ stories they give you for each day.

All I am saying, is to grow up sometimes and know when to troll, and when to have a normal discussion.

How long has it been since I quoted a post from you?

It seems like you are here to start shit.


how would i know

i was talking to lobstah and you jumped in a like a fat tantrum throwing piece of excrement like you normally do

i wasnt addressing you

just felt i should correct your stupidity

maybe one day you will listen

and grow as a person

you are the most limited individual in terms of intellect and ability to debate

that ive ever come across on the internet

its that simple

i find it hard to believe someone like you exists

hope that helps
Title: Re: Why do most of the IFBB sanctioned contests have shitty prize money?
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on September 15, 2014, 09:33:29 AM
Says the overtanned, bent nosed loser.

Have you graduated past the 10 pound dumbells bro?

You just got demolished by the only pro on here. Plus she's a girl.  HAHAHAHA!

Nothing more pathetic than the people you are trying to stand up for telling you point blank to fuck off LOL!!
Title: Re: Why do most of the IFBB sanctioned contests have shitty prize money?
Post by: King Shizzo on September 15, 2014, 09:34:06 AM
how would i know

i was talking to lobstah and you jumped in a like a fat tantrum throwing piece of excrement like you normally do

i wasnt addressing you

just felt i should correct your stupidity

maybe one day you will listen

and grow as a person

you are the most limited individual in terms of intellect and ability to debate

that ive ever come across on the internet

its that simple

i find it hard to believe someone like you exists

hope that helps
You know what, I didn't see Lobstah's comment. She did throw the first puch.

But she did pose a good question?

You merely tried to add fuel to the fire.
Title: Re: Why do most of the IFBB sanctioned contests have shitty prize money?
Post by: King Shizzo on September 15, 2014, 09:37:26 AM
You just got demolished by the only pro on here. Plus she's a girl.  HAHAHAHA!
I actually never read that post from her. But I have actually answered that question multiple times before.

Stick to posting pics of the Salmon you catch from Alaska.

This is Chiro's complete arsenal:

"I will give you a roundhouse kick to the jaw"

"You gargle man plums"

"Great athlete"

 ::)
Title: Re: Why do most of the IFBB sanctioned contests have shitty prize money?
Post by: Wolfox on September 15, 2014, 09:39:28 AM
I can lose weight. You would need a face transplant.  :-*

Nothing wrong with this face sweetheart.

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=514558.0;attach=551214;image)

You look like you grew up in a trailer park  ???
Title: Re: Why do most of the IFBB sanctioned contests have shitty prize money?
Post by: King Shizzo on September 15, 2014, 09:40:26 AM
You look like you grew up in a trailer park  ???
I have been mistook for Orlando Bloom on numerous occasions.
Title: Re: Why do most of the IFBB sanctioned contests have shitty prize money?
Post by: the trainer on September 15, 2014, 09:44:48 AM
I can lose weight. You would need a face transplant.  :-*

Nothing wrong with this face sweetheart.

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=514558.0;attach=551214;image)

Shizzo you are the last person to call anybody ugly, your face is disgusting.
Title: Re: Why do most of the IFBB sanctioned contests have shitty prize money?
Post by: King Shizzo on September 15, 2014, 09:48:06 AM
Shizzo you are the last person to call anybody ugly, your face is disgusting.
It's like comparing Richard Gere with a Preying Mantis.

She has a vagina/penoris. I get it.
Title: Re: Why do most of the IFBB sanctioned contests have shitty prize money?
Post by: jephrius on September 15, 2014, 09:49:29 AM
You know what.....

I will give you a genuine fuck you.  I don't bother you at all.

You cling to the ball hairs of certain posters here.  Besides, I think you are ugly as fuck.

Real Talk.
Dude pay her no mind. She comes out here with her airhead routine trying to get attention.  Not only that, she's a rugmuncher as well.
Title: Re: Why do most of the IFBB sanctioned contests have shitty prize money?
Post by: jephrius on September 15, 2014, 09:50:56 AM
This.
And additionally, no one is making their living as a competitor just like no one is making a living trying to become Miss America. Pageantry is a hobby. Just like building model ships and kayaking. You might enter a contest and win prize money for being really fucking good at your hobby, but that's definitely not why you do it.

Meanwhile, why do you give a shit? You don't even lift.
You actually have to at least place in a pro contest to make some money. ;)
Title: Re: Why do most of the IFBB sanctioned contests have shitty prize money?
Post by: Grape Ape on September 15, 2014, 09:51:04 AM
I actually never read that post from her. But I have actually answered that question multiple times before.

Stick to posting pics of the Salmon you catch from Alaska.

This is Chiro's complete arsenal:

"I will give you a roundhouse kick to the jaw"

"You gargle man plums"

"Great athlete"

 ::)


(http://dealbreaker.com/uploads/2010/06/animated-siren-gif-animated-siren-gif-animated-siren-gif-drudge-report.gif)POSTING ABOUT POSTING ALERT!!!!(http://dealbreaker.com/uploads/2010/06/animated-siren-gif-animated-siren-gif-animated-siren-gif-drudge-report.gif)
Title: Re: Why do most of the IFBB sanctioned contests have shitty prize money?
Post by: njflex on September 15, 2014, 09:51:32 AM
Dude pay her no mind. She comes out here with her airhead routine trying to get attention.  Not only that, she's a rugmuncher as well.
RUG MUNCHER REALLY?CONFIRMED..
Title: Re: Why do most of the IFBB sanctioned contests have shitty prize money?
Post by: King Shizzo on September 15, 2014, 09:52:20 AM
(http://dealbreaker.com/uploads/2010/06/animated-siren-gif-animated-siren-gif-animated-siren-gif-drudge-report.gif)POSTING ABOUT POSTING ALERT!!!!(http://dealbreaker.com/uploads/2010/06/animated-siren-gif-animated-siren-gif-animated-siren-gif-drudge-report.gif)
;D
Title: Re: Why do most of the IFBB sanctioned contests have shitty prize money?
Post by: njflex on September 15, 2014, 09:52:54 AM
(http://dealbreaker.com/uploads/2010/06/animated-siren-gif-animated-siren-gif-animated-siren-gif-drudge-report.gif)POSTING ABOUT POSTING ALERT!!!!(http://dealbreaker.com/uploads/2010/06/animated-siren-gif-animated-siren-gif-animated-siren-gif-drudge-report.gif)
THE FUKING LIGHT'S MADE ME LAUGH PRETTY GOOD..
Title: Re: Why do most of the IFBB sanctioned contests have shitty prize money?
Post by: King Shizzo on September 15, 2014, 09:53:33 AM
RUG MUNCHER REALLY?CONFIRMED..
I loved Lobstah in expendables 3.
Title: Re: Why do most of the IFBB sanctioned contests have shitty prize money?
Post by: njflex on September 15, 2014, 09:54:30 AM
I loved Lobstah in expendables 3.
:)..
Title: Re: Why do most of the IFBB sanctioned contests have shitty prize money?
Post by: King Shizzo on September 15, 2014, 10:22:50 AM
You just got demolished by the only pro on here. Plus she's a girl.  HAHAHAHA!

Nothing more pathetic than the people you are trying to stand up for telling you point blank to fuck off LOL!!
Brutal edit from a simpleton.

Face it Chiro, you are the stereotypical bodybuilder.

All drugs ( hence the 10 pound dumbells)

You are a follower.

You are not intelligent.

Look at 99.9% of the richest, and most successful people in the world.

They can lift 10 pound dumbells too.
Title: Re: Why do most of the IFBB sanctioned contests have shitty prize money?
Post by: King Shizzo on September 15, 2014, 10:26:25 AM
Lets get back on topic.......

Does anyone have the info of the prize money awarded at IFBB contests for 2013?
Title: Re: Why do most of the IFBB sanctioned contests have shitty prize money?
Post by: Grape Ape on September 15, 2014, 10:28:00 AM
Brutal edit from a simpleton.

Face it Chiro, you are the stereotypical bodybuilder.

All drugs ( hence the 10 pound dumbells)

You are a follower.

You are not intelligent.

Look at 99.9% of the richest, and most successful people in the world.

They can lift 10 pound dumbells too.

Chrio is also on his way to a pretty decent career.  And the way he is doing it is definitely not the work of a follower.
Title: Re: Why do most of the IFBB sanctioned contests have shitty prize money?
Post by: King Shizzo on September 15, 2014, 10:31:36 AM
Chrio is also on his way to a pretty decent career.  And the way he is doing it is definitely not the work of a follower.
Please elaborate on your assumptions of Chiro.
Title: Re: Why do most of the IFBB sanctioned contests have shitty prize money?
Post by: _aj_ on September 15, 2014, 10:32:56 AM
Please elaborate on your assumptions of Chiro.

I can confirm this also. But I doubt either of us is going to start telling you about Chiro IRL.
Title: Re: Why do most of the IFBB sanctioned contests have shitty prize money?
Post by: Grape Ape on September 15, 2014, 10:33:45 AM
Please elaborate on your assumptions of Chiro.

Couple things:

1.  No
2.  They are not assumptions
3.  No
Title: Re: Why do most of the IFBB sanctioned contests have shitty prize money?
Post by: King Shizzo on September 15, 2014, 10:35:49 AM
I can confirm this also. But I doubt either of us is going to start telling you about Chiro IRL.
So you can confirm that you know Chiro in real life?

Are you related? Personal family friend?
Title: Re: Why do most of the IFBB sanctioned contests have shitty prize money?
Post by: Irongrip400 on September 15, 2014, 10:37:28 AM
There is money that can be added from the sponsors. Kids still aspire to look like Superman or the Rock or the latest, Muscled, action hero.

The top supplement companies (and the IFBB) are making money hand over fist.

Time to give some of it back.

So are the oil companies, and they aren't rushing to give any back. It's one of the downfalls of capitalism, greed.
Title: Re: Why do most of the IFBB sanctioned contests have shitty prize money?
Post by: King Shizzo on September 15, 2014, 10:39:37 AM
So are the oil companies, and they aren't rushing to give any back. It's one of the downfalls of capitalism, greed.
Oil companies? IFBB?

Maybe you are on to something?
Title: Re: Why do most of the IFBB sanctioned contests have shitty prize money?
Post by: bigmc on September 15, 2014, 10:41:23 AM
chiro is going places  8)

and not walmart or the liquor store
Title: Re: Why do most of the IFBB sanctioned contests have shitty prize money?
Post by: King Shizzo on September 15, 2014, 10:42:33 AM
Junior take note:

You dont have to make demands to be a good poster.

You just have to have the talent,  to go along with the flow of a given thread.

You don't need shock value.
Title: Re: Why do most of the IFBB sanctioned contests have shitty prize money?
Post by: King Shizzo on September 15, 2014, 10:44:23 AM
chiro is going places  8)

and not walmart or the liquor store
This is a quality post.  :D
Title: Re: Why do most of the IFBB sanctioned contests have shitty prize money?
Post by: Grape Ape on September 15, 2014, 10:48:40 AM
You dont have to make demands to be a good poster.

You just have to have the talent,  to go along with the flow of a given thread.

(http://dealbreaker.com/uploads/2010/06/animated-siren-gif-animated-siren-gif-animated-siren-gif-drudge-report.gif)THOSE WHO CAN'T DO, TEACHING ALERT!!!!(http://dealbreaker.com/uploads/2010/06/animated-siren-gif-animated-siren-gif-animated-siren-gif-drudge-report.gif)
Title: Re: Why do most of the IFBB sanctioned contests have shitty prize money?
Post by: King Shizzo on September 15, 2014, 10:51:40 AM
(http://dealbreaker.com/uploads/2010/06/animated-siren-gif-animated-siren-gif-animated-siren-gif-drudge-report.gif)THOSE WHO CAN'T DO, TEACHING ALERT!!!!(http://dealbreaker.com/uploads/2010/06/animated-siren-gif-animated-siren-gif-animated-siren-gif-drudge-report.gif)
The Giants suck alert!

Fyi, Brady is not in decline. Your guy is Eli Manning.

I would keep quiet right now.
Title: Re: Why do most of the IFBB sanctioned contests have shitty prize money?
Post by: Grape Ape on September 15, 2014, 10:57:06 AM
The Giants suck alert!

Fyi, Brady is not in decline. Your guy is Eli Manning.

I would keep quiet right now.

Newsflash:  Neither will win shit this year.

But the Giants status in the NFL has nothing to do with posting.
Title: Re: Why do most of the IFBB sanctioned contests have shitty prize money?
Post by: King Shizzo on September 15, 2014, 11:00:24 AM
Quality over quantity.

That is my motto now.

That should be the IFBB's motto as well.

If contests cant offer a reasonable purse, then maybe they should merge with other promotions.

Its not about the number of contests. It is about rewarding these contestants with a reasonable prize.
Title: Re: Why do most of the IFBB sanctioned contests have shitty prize money?
Post by: King Shizzo on September 15, 2014, 11:02:40 AM
Newsflash:  Neither will win shit this year.

But the Giants status in the NFL has nothing to do with posting.

What did you contribute to this thread?

You are a mod that preaches about staying on topic.

Do you have anything add to the original topic?
Title: Re: Why do most of the IFBB sanctioned contests have shitty prize money?
Post by: Var City on September 15, 2014, 11:02:55 AM
I dont see the point of any pro trying to compete in anything other then the Olympia or Arnold Classic.  The promoters of these small shows obviously make a decent profit, as they continue to hold the contests year after year.

I am assuming that the only reason most pros compete in these "small shows" is to qualify for the Olympia, or to get a name.

$10,000 dollars (before taxes) for first place, is just pathetic.

The sponsors should be to blame as well. All of these tightwad supplement companies need to put a little more back into the industry that makes them.

Who is the current rep for the pros?

There needs to be a minimum of 25k for first place, in all IFBB sanctioned, pro contests.

shizzo i agree, good thread/good post

the issue is that bodybuilding has dug itself into this niche, gay trench

and the people "behind the scenes" (as i've heard you say before re: get big's movers and shakers and your interactions with them via AOL AIM) who run the ifbb truly don't care about money. They make some money in fact, but for the mass majority they are mega schmoes

this is why kai keeps on trucking; why wolf's closest to touching #1 was 2007 (not last year); why they appeal to an all gay crowd (mostly, except about half of get big. i really believe that. that the only heterosexual super fans of bodybuyilding reside here, and we all have some other issues, like shizzo you are an alcoholic and have parinoid delusions, i am a sociopath, junior is a fantasist (in the best possible way, he actually does make a lot of money and wasn't born iwth a silver spoon but he's a fantasist still) --I love all of you at the end of hte day and dig into people for fun, but we're all fucked up here.

when the IFBB phases kai out

appeals to middle east by giving teh gift placements they gave to Kai over to rami

and really embraces phil and secondly Wolf while he's still competing and treats them as the FACES of bodybuilding

and changes the thongs back to trunks a la 74 etc

then we have a solid start

oh and all of the people who run IFBB need to be replaced because you shouldn't be able to suck a few dicks and get a 2nd place year after year when  you look like ABSOLUTE FUKCING SHIT LIKE KAI DOES.

EVEN IN 2012 I DON'T GIVE A SINGLE FUCK HE LOOKS LIKE GOD DAMNED SHIT. NO FLOW. NO FUCKING FLOW. WTF. NO TRAPS. THAT HEAD.

THAT HEAD!

THAT HEAAASAAD!

THE PONY TAIL!

WTF!

he's a predator

he's "the predator"!

the sexual predator

better give him SECOND! cause he let me,. MR IFBB EXECUTIVE, face fuck him ! and kai enjoyed it


FUCKKKKK KAI

however we could just not do anything and BB will not exist in 10 years. rami will take it to middle east. Watch. the $ is there. he is a celebrity there. watch.

FUCK KAI
Title: Re: Why do most of the IFBB sanctioned contests have shitty prize money?
Post by: Var City on September 15, 2014, 11:09:10 AM
The Giants suck alert!

Fyi, Brady is not in decline. Your guy is Eli Manning.

I would keep quiet right now.

god damnit why am i agreeing with shizzo rigfht now two times in a row

I am a giants fan

FUCK the giants. Eli manning is a garbage QB whos bread and butter is the little red zone floater pass to a tall WR like plaxico when he had him, or someone who can jump or trick the corner (nicks couldn't do this. Cruz could)

Again i am a huge giants fan and appreciate what manning did for us i appreciate it all

but he is what i call a CLUTCH QB. meaning he is a mental wreck. he can't get his shit together until the last moment when he pulls out these miraculous 4th quarters and everyone says SO CLUTCH

but everybody forgets he was melting down for the first 3 quarters and making that dumb face

i wish we drafted manziel (i would have traded up to grab him). we need a FULL rebuild now. eli also could benefit from a change of scenery i believe. he has a lot of potential. of his draft class, he will always be knowsn as the best QB but Rivers really is

However to end this, BRADY is NOT in decline

That dude is not teh reasong they lost to miami week 1

BRADY is one of the top 5 qbs of ALL time and he is STILL IN HIS PRIME. he never relied on speed. he relied on accuracy, IQ, pocket management, reads (audibles),. IQ again (pump fakes, look offs)., bellichik and his synergy, and he always had that gorgeous long ball (nobody forget 2007 ever. he can stilll do that. who can catch it? aareon hernandez was showing signs he could. PIP. groink can't too slow).

so as a giants fan lemme shut this down now. brady owns manning

pats own giants

giants SUCK worse than kai


let's get back on topic tho. olympia is coming up and i am in a frenzy about it. not a gay frenzy, but i am doing more cocaine than usual
Title: Re: Why do most of the IFBB sanctioned contests have shitty prize money?
Post by: Grape Ape on September 15, 2014, 11:11:15 AM
What did you contribute to this thread?

You are a mod that preaches about staying on topic.

Do you have anything add to the original topic?

Posting about posting.
Title: Re: Why do most of the IFBB sanctioned contests have shitty prize money?
Post by: King Shizzo on September 15, 2014, 11:12:32 AM
god damnit why am i agreeing with shizzo rigfht now two times in a row

I am a giants fan

FUCK the giants. Eli manning is a garbage QB whos bread and butter is the little red zone floater pass to a tall WR like plaxico when he had him, or someone who can jump or trick the corner (nicks couldn't do this. Cruz could)

Again i am a huge giants fan and appreciate what manning did for us i appreciate it all

but he is what i call a CLUTCH QB. meaning he is a mental wreck. he can't get his shit together until the last moment when he pulls out these miraculous 4th quarters and everyone says SO CLUTCH

but everybody forgets he was melting down for the first 3 quarters and making that dumb face

i wish we drafted manziel (i would have traded up to grab him). we need a FULL rebuild now. eli also could benefit from a change of scenery i believe. he has a lot of potential. of his draft class, he will always be knowsn as the best QB but Rivers really is

However to end this, BRADY is NOT in decline

That dude is not teh reasong they lost to miami week 1

BRADY is one of the top 5 qbs of ALL time and he is STILL IN HIS PRIME. he never relied on speed. he relied on accuracy, IQ, pocket management, reads (audibles),. IQ again (pump fakes, look offs)., bellichik and his synergy, and he always had that gorgeous long ball (nobody forget 2007 ever. he can stilll do that. who can catch it? aareon hernandez was showing signs he could. PIP. groink can't too slow).

so as a giants fan lemme shut this down now. brady owns manning

pats own giants

giants SUCK worse than kai


let's get back on topic tho. olympia is coming up and i am in a frenzy about it. not a gay frenzy, but i am doing more cocaine than usual
No. Giants own the Patriots.

They own them.
Title: Re: Why do most of the IFBB sanctioned contests have shitty prize money?
Post by: King Shizzo on September 15, 2014, 11:14:34 AM
I am trying to keep this thread bodybuilding related.

I am fighting against the people who could care less.

Title: Re: Why do most of the IFBB sanctioned contests have shitty prize money?
Post by: Grape Ape on September 15, 2014, 11:15:10 AM
However to end this, BRADY is NOT in decline

That dude is not teh reasong they lost to miami week 1

BRADY is one of the top 5 qbs of ALL time and he is STILL IN HIS PRIME. he never relied on speed. he relied on accuracy, IQ, pocket management, reads (audibles),. IQ again (pump fakes, look offs)., bellichik and his synergy, and he always had that gorgeous long ball (nobody forget 2007 ever. he can stilll do that. who can catch it? aareon hernandez was showing signs he could. PIP. groink can't too slow).

so as a giants fan lemme shut this down now. brady owns manning

pats own giants

giants SUCK worse than kai



Brady QB rating has been declining since 2010.  I live right next to foxboro stadium and watch most of the games since most up here are rabid fans.  Brady is not the same, he misses spots, and is getting gradually more gun shy in the pocket.  This is routinely discussed on sports radio and the fans see it.

Brady owns Manning on career stats.  Manning owns Brady head to head in Superbowls.

Giants are bad this year, but it's irrelevant to the conversation.  But I'll take the two more current SuperBowls and all the context around  them than the decade old dynasty any day.
Title: Re: Why do most of the IFBB sanctioned contests have shitty prize money?
Post by: Grape Ape on September 15, 2014, 11:17:33 AM
I am trying to keep this thread bodybuilding related.

I am fighting against the people who could care less.



It's you against the world apparently.   ::)
Title: Re: Why do most of the IFBB sanctioned contests have shitty prize money?
Post by: MAXX on September 15, 2014, 11:17:45 AM
Junior take note:

You dont have to make demands to be a good poster.

You just have to have the talent,  to go along with the flow of a given thread.

You don't need shock value.
is your goal to be popular on a internet messageboard for bbing?

get a real life ffs....
Title: Re: Why do most of the IFBB sanctioned contests have shitty prize money?
Post by: King Shizzo on September 15, 2014, 11:18:50 AM
Brady QB rating has been declining since 2010.  I live right next to foxboro stadium and watch most of the games since most up here are rabid fans.  Brady is not the same, he misses spots, and is getting gradually more gun shy in the pocket.  This is routinely discussed on sports radio and the fans see it.

Brady owns Manning on career stats.  Manning owns Brady head to head in Superbowls.

Giants are bad this year, but it's irrelevant to the conversation.
Brady has no interceptions.

The Seahawks are 1-1

The 49ers are 1-1

The Patriots are 1-1

Grape Ape: Nobody will ever compare Eli Manning to Tom Brady.

Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Why do most of the IFBB sanctioned contests have shitty prize money?
Post by: King Shizzo on September 15, 2014, 11:21:16 AM
It's you against the world apparently.   ::)
So a mod on a bodybuilding board is hating on bodybuilding?
Title: Re: Why do most of the IFBB sanctioned contests have shitty prize money?
Post by: King Shizzo on September 15, 2014, 11:24:27 AM
I am waiting for the poster sniper to fire off a round  :D
Title: Re: Why do most of the IFBB sanctioned contests have shitty prize money?
Post by: Grape Ape on September 15, 2014, 11:27:51 AM
Brady has no interceptions.

Missed a few throws against Miami that a prime Brady would make.  This isn't debatable for anyone who watched it.

And, yeah, QB rating declining over four years is still true.

Don't care if you make fun of Eli, recent struggles etc....I'd take it if it was from a team that won within the last decade, but not a Pats fan.
Title: Re: Why do most of the IFBB sanctioned contests have shitty prize money?
Post by: King Shizzo on September 15, 2014, 11:34:15 AM
Missed a few throws against Miami that a prime Brady would make.  This isn't debatable for anyone who watched it.

And, yeah, QB rating declining over four years is still true.

Don't care if you make fun of Eli, recent struggles etc....I'd take it if it was from a team that won within the last decade, but not a Pats fan.

I watch all Patriots games.

Quarterback play is mostly determined by the effectiveness of the O-line.

They traded Logan Mankins (I was pissed) and are dealing with compatibility issues.

Brady has pure talent. Eli was lucky.





Title: Re: Why do most of the IFBB sanctioned contests have shitty prize money?
Post by: King Shizzo on September 15, 2014, 11:35:51 AM
Grape Ape, stop talking about football.

Do you even lift?
Title: Re: Why do most of the IFBB sanctioned contests have shitty prize money?
Post by: Ronnie Rep on September 15, 2014, 11:36:27 AM
shizzo i agree, good thread/good post

the issue is that bodybuilding has dug itself into this niche, gay trench

and the people "behind the scenes" (as i've heard you say before re: get big's movers and shakers and your interactions with them via AOL AIM) who run the ifbb truly don't care about money. They make some money in fact, but for the mass majority they are mega schmoes

this is why kai keeps on trucking; why wolf's closest to touching #1 was 2007 (not last year); why they appeal to an all gay crowd (mostly, except about half of get big. i really believe that. that the only heterosexual super fans of bodybuyilding reside here, and we all have some other issues, like shizzo you are an alcoholic and have parinoid delusions, i am a sociopath, junior is a fantasist (in the best possible way, he actually does make a lot of money and wasn't born iwth a silver spoon but he's a fantasist still) --I love all of you at the end of hte day and dig into people for fun, but we're all fucked up here.

when the IFBB phases kai out

appeals to middle east by giving teh gift placements they gave to Kai over to rami

and really embraces phil and secondly Wolf while he's still competing and treats them as the FACES of bodybuilding

and changes the thongs back to trunks a la 74 etc

then we have a solid start

oh and all of the people who run IFBB need to be replaced because you shouldn't be able to suck a few dicks and get a 2nd place year after year when  you look like ABSOLUTE FUKCING SHIT LIKE KAI DOES.

EVEN IN 2012 I DON'T GIVE A SINGLE FUCK HE LOOKS LIKE GOD DAMNED SHIT. NO FLOW. NO FUCKING FLOW. WTF. NO TRAPS. THAT HEAD.

THAT HEAD!

THAT HEAAASAAD!

THE PONY TAIL!

WTF!

he's a predator

he's "the predator"!

the sexual predator

better give him SECOND! cause he let me,. MR IFBB EXECUTIVE, face fuck him ! and kai enjoyed it


FUCKKKKK KAI

however we could just not do anything and BB will not exist in 10 years. rami will take it to middle east. Watch. the $ is there. he is a celebrity there. watch.

FUCK KAI
Don't forget about guy's like me, Howard, Wes, N.J., Coach, etc. Clinging on to the past. 70's 80's and 90's Bodybuilding, when you went into the gym and had camradarie with all the brothers in iron. I miss those days now it sucks. Fuck 24 hour Fitness and Planet Fitness and their ilk. Don't forget to watch Eagles and Colts tonight :)
Title: Re: Why do most of the IFBB sanctioned contests have shitty prize money?
Post by: Howard on September 15, 2014, 11:41:48 AM
This.
And additionally, no one is making their living as a competitor just like no one is making a living trying to become Miss America. Pageantry is a hobby. Just like building model ships and kayaking. You might enter a contest and win prize money for being really fucking good at your hobby, but that's definitely not why you do it.

Meanwhile, why do you give a shit? You don't even lift.

It's because pro bodybuilding doesn't get any major media coverage.
No pay per view or even ESPN 8, the ocho ,covers it at 3 a.m. now.
Now, with NBC sports network covering the O , the sport might have a shot?

Title: Re: Why do most of the IFBB sanctioned contests have shitty prize money?
Post by: King Shizzo on September 15, 2014, 11:43:49 AM
I am going to take a nap now.

I hope that adults can keep this on topic.

Remember, only ignorant people troll 100% of the time.
Title: Re: Why do most of the IFBB sanctioned contests have shitty prize money?
Post by: Grape Ape on September 15, 2014, 11:47:53 AM
I watch all Patriots games.

Quarterback play is mostly determined by the effectiveness of the O-line.

They traded Logan Mankins (I was pissed) and are dealing with compatibility issues.

Brady has pure talent. Eli was lucky.


Mankins trade was a head scratcher.  O line IS important, and has always helped Brady as he has had more time to throw than anyone.

But Brady is missing spots where he has time.
Title: Re: Why do most of the IFBB sanctioned contests have shitty prize money?
Post by: Ronnie Rep on September 15, 2014, 11:49:20 AM
Like I said in the thread before Vince had the vision/dream/love/money to take Bodybuilding mainstream. But it all went away with the Zahorian trial.
Title: Re: Why do most of the IFBB sanctioned contests have shitty prize money?
Post by: King Shizzo on September 15, 2014, 11:55:15 AM
Like I said in the thread before Vince had the vision/dream/love/money to take Bodybuilding mainstream. But it all went away with the Zahorian trial.
Bodybuilding will never be mainstream as long as anabolic steroids are illegal.

Bodybuilding is a cult following.

However, Crossfit is proving that people are interested in fitness.

Is it bodybuilding vs. Fitness now?
Title: Re: Why do most of the IFBB sanctioned contests have shitty prize money?
Post by: Ronnie Rep on September 15, 2014, 01:22:37 PM
Bodybuilding will never be mainstream as long as anabolic steroids are illegal.

Bodybuilding is a cult following.

However, Crossfit is proving that people are interested in fitness.

Is it bodybuilding vs. Fitness now?
When I say mainstream I mean similar to Pro Wrestling. Certainly not like mainstream sports, but bigger than it is now, with more exposure to the public. Vince had the juice to do it. I agree with the steroid issue, but the general public has to know steroids are rampant in the NFL, but it doesn't stop them from watching.
Title: Re: Why do most of the IFBB sanctioned contests have shitty prize money?
Post by: bigmc on September 15, 2014, 01:46:49 PM
When I say mainstream I mean similar to Pro Wrestling. Certainly not like mainstream sports, but bigger than it is now, with more exposure to the public. Vince had the juice to do it. I agree with the steroid issue, but the general public has to know steroids are rampant in the NFL, but it doesn't stop them from watching.

it used to be on espn
Title: Re: Why do most of the IFBB sanctioned contests have shitty prize money?
Post by: King Shizzo on September 15, 2014, 01:51:20 PM
it used to be on espn
You used to be a good poster.

Things change.
Title: Re: Why do most of the IFBB sanctioned contests have shitty prize money?
Post by: bigmc on September 15, 2014, 01:52:35 PM
You used to be a good poster.

Things change.

you never were a good poster

some things never change
Title: Re: Why do most of the IFBB sanctioned contests have shitty prize money?
Post by: King Shizzo on September 15, 2014, 01:54:33 PM
you never were a good poster

some things never change
I took a nap. You stayed by the keyboard.

Damn gingers.
Title: Re: Why do most of the IFBB sanctioned contests have shitty prize money?
Post by: Simple Simon on September 15, 2014, 01:55:43 PM
I took a napI blacked out after a litre bottle . You stayed by the keyboard.

Damn gingers.

fixed
Title: Re: Why do most of the IFBB sanctioned contests have shitty prize money?
Post by: bigmc on September 15, 2014, 01:58:14 PM
I wept at the dark despair of my existence . You stayed by the keyboard.

Damn gingers.
Title: Re: Why do most of the IFBB sanctioned contests have shitty prize money?
Post by: the trainer on September 15, 2014, 01:59:26 PM
I am going to take a nap now.

I hope that adults can keep this on topic.

Remember, only ignorant people troll 100% of the time.

You dont do any kind of physical activity yet you want to take a nap what a fucking loser you are.
Title: Re: Why do most of the IFBB sanctioned contests have shitty prize money?
Post by: King Shizzo on September 15, 2014, 01:59:48 PM
Lol!!! You Brits.....


Such an inferior race.
Title: Re: Why do most of the IFBB sanctioned contests have shitty prize money?
Post by: bigmc on September 15, 2014, 02:03:21 PM
im a fat alcoholic
Title: Re: Why do most of the IFBB sanctioned contests have shitty prize money?
Post by: King Shizzo on September 15, 2014, 02:08:26 PM

Why are you mad?

You started it.
Title: Re: Why do most of the IFBB sanctioned contests have shitty prize money?
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on September 15, 2014, 02:11:39 PM
Its a crazy lifestyle for little gain for 99.9999999% of the people that do it.  I knew a guy who cooked his own "GH" in a lab and injected himself just to win a plastic trophy.  He fucked up his endocrine system but when he talks about his win he is grinning ear to ear, of course he doesn't attribute none of it to him and his wife not being able to have kids or that his body is fucked for life and he's only 30.
Title: Re: Why do most of the IFBB sanctioned contests have shitty prize money?
Post by: Var City on September 15, 2014, 02:23:11 PM
I watch all Patriots games.

Quarterback play is mostly determined by the effectiveness of the O-line.

They traded Logan Mankins (I was pissed) and are dealing with compatibility issues.

Brady has pure talent. Eli was lucky.







Jesus again agreeing with Shinzo


I have to say this guy knows his football and basketball as well as anyone

And who in their right mind here is really saying Eli doofus manning owns Brady?

If not for a miracle catch Brady has 2 titles as is talked about as GOAT now

He will b eventually

Eli hit the jackpot . Straight up  lucked out by good coughlin coaching

Excellent O line yet young

Plaxico

Etc

Helmet catch

Etc

That ridiculous 2 point conversion

Etc

Eli is not even best QB from his draft class

Rivers is

Brady is possibly GOAT QB

But honestly Olympia is around corner let's focus on this

I added my opinion before

People began saying

"Eli>Brady"  ???

(Written by a lifelong giants fan and a realist)
Title: Re: Why do most of the IFBB sanctioned contests have shitty prize money?
Post by: BodyConnoisseur on September 15, 2014, 02:52:04 PM
As a Pro, I compete for personal satisfaction..more prize money would be nice but I didn't get into this expecting to become rich off competitions. It's the lifestyle I love.
Title: Re: Why do most of the IFBB sanctioned contests have shitty prize money?
Post by: OTHstrong on September 15, 2014, 03:09:12 PM
;D.........

True, but we need to evolve a little. I completely understand why NPC competitors lose money trying to gain a pro card, but why do average pros compete for a shit purse?

Is that the definition of the addiction these people have? Willing to lose money just to step on stage?
your logic is flawed and not only that but you have no idea what you are talking about.

To boot your assumptions are dead wrong and painfully ignorant.

LET ME EDUCATE THIS THREAD.

1. PROS DO NOT COMPETE FOR THE PURSE MONEY

2. MOST PRO SHOWS MAKE NO MONEY

3. PROMOTORS DO NOT GAMBLE ON A PRO SHOW TO MAKE A PROFIT

4. SUPPLEMENT COMPANIES NEED TO BE OFFERED SOMETHING IN RETURN TO PUT MONEY IN, THEY JUST DO NOT GIVE THERE MONEY AWAY CAUSE THE PURSE IS SMALL.



Shizzo, where is the money going to come from? How do they offer more purse? from where?

attendance? sponsors? what do sponsors get in return?

Do competitors care? No they don't if the pro shows had no purse money, you would still see the exact same competitors competing, wake up shizzo
Title: Re: Why do most of the IFBB sanctioned contests have shitty prize money?
Post by: MCWAY on September 15, 2014, 03:19:15 PM
he did,but it was too circus wwf/wwe like,the characters,the announcers were embarrassing..the guys tried they really did,most turned there back early in there ifbb or recent pros and few veterans careers to go 4 it....ifbb was running strong then..best of the best..

Which announcers?

Greg Lewis and Tom Platz did the '91 show.

Vince McMahon, Tom Platz, and Bobby "The Brain" Heenan did the '92 (and final) show.
Title: Re: Why do most of the IFBB sanctioned contests have shitty prize money?
Post by: Voice of Doom on September 15, 2014, 03:35:24 PM
I dont see the point of any pro trying to compete in anything other then the Olympia or Arnold Classic.  The promoters of these small shows obviously make a decent profit, as they continue to hold the contests year after year.

I am assuming that the only reason most pros compete in these "small shows" is to qualify for the Olympia, or to get a name.

$10,000 dollars (before taxes) for first place, is just pathetic.

The sponsors should be to blame as well. All of these tightwad supplement companies need to put a little more back into the industry that makes them.

Who is the current rep for the pros?

There needs to be a minimum of 25k for first place, in all IFBB sanctioned, pro contests.

This nonsense sounds like Communism.  Greedy businessmen screwing over the little guy.  What's needed are Price controls and spreading the wealth... just take more money from the "rich" guy...we know what's the best use for their money.   ::)

Onward Soviet!

Title: Re: Why do most of the IFBB sanctioned contests have shitty prize money?
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on September 15, 2014, 04:01:24 PM
THE IRON MAN PRO RAN FOR DECADES and was one of the best lit /stage shows/photographs were world class from this show and it was all of 10,000,,every pro wanted the title tho.v taylor.wheeler,cormier,cutler,to name a few won it many times...

I've heard rumors that the Ironman was such a big show because of the Eye's Wide Shut party that took place afterwards...Some top schmo billing from that area where guys got paid very well for their services...Didn't that UFO/Aliens guy run it awhile back? That dude supposedly was knee deep in the occult...

Bad hair, spray tan and most likely wearing a glittery thong=Aliens




(http://www.neonnettle.com/news/images/kidman.jpg)
Title: Re: Why do most of the IFBB sanctioned contests have shitty prize money?
Post by: Grape Ape on September 15, 2014, 04:04:05 PM
Jesus again agreeing with Shinzo


I have to say this guy knows his football and basketball as well as anyone

And who in their right mind here is really saying Eli doofus manning owns Brady?

If not for a miracle catch Brady has 2 titles as is talked about as GOAT now

He will b eventually

Eli hit the jackpot . Straight up  lucked out by good coughlin coaching

Excellent O line yet young

Plaxico

Etc

Helmet catch

Etc

That ridiculous 2 point conversion

Etc

Eli is not even best QB from his draft class

Rivers is

Brady is possibly GOAT QB

But honestly Olympia is around corner let's focus on this

I added my opinion before

People began saying

"Eli>Brady"  ???

(Written by a lifelong giants fan and a realist)

This too will be written by a lifelong Giants fan and realist:

In the context of the two Super Bowls they played against each other  Eli >> Brady.

In XLII, the Pats brought the most prolific offense the NFL had ever seen up until last year's Broncos.

In that game, the stats were as follows:

Manning:  19/34, 255 yds, 2TD,  1 Int, QBR 76.5
Brady:      29/48  266 yds, 1 TD, 0 Int  QBR 53.8

Statistically, Manning was better.  He also engineered a 10 minute drive to start the game, and the pass to Burress was perfect, especially given the context of the play.  Yeah, he got lucky on the Tyree play for that catch, but he still eluded the defenders and made the play.

Brady numbers reflect what happens to any quarterback when the O line doesn't hold up its end of the bargain.

In SB XLVI the stats were as follows:

Manning:  30/40, 296 yds, 1TD,  0 Int, QBR 82.1
Brady:      27/41  276 yds, 2 TD, 1 Int  QBR 70.3

Again, statistically better.

In addition, Brady threw the famous drop to Welker.  Welker should have caught the ball, but the throw did not have to be put where it was.  He was wide open.  Conversely, Eli's throw to Manningham, once again with the Super Bowl on the line, was perfection.

So, in the context of those two games, Eli owned Brady.  The stats, plays, and game results back it up.  It has nothing to do with overall career or current situation.  Giants own the Pats in the Superbowl.
Title: Re: Why do most of the IFBB sanctioned contests have shitty prize money?
Post by: Grape Ape on October 01, 2014, 03:46:09 AM
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/24731866/comparing-tom-bradys-bad-start-to-other-afc-east-qbs


Quote
someone actually asked Bill Belichick whether the "quarterback position would be evaluated" this week.
Title: Re: Why do most of the IFBB sanctioned contests have shitty prize money?
Post by: King Shizzo on October 01, 2014, 03:52:14 AM
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/24731866/comparing-tom-bradys-bad-start-to-other-afc-east-qbs


We will see this sunday night. The Patriots play the Bengals at home.

The Pats were embarrassed by the Chiefs. I fully expect them to gut it up, and beat the Bengals.

Will that solve the problems? No, but it will show people that they need to calm down.

Title: Re: Why do most of the IFBB sanctioned contests have shitty prize money?
Post by: G_Thang on October 01, 2014, 03:53:59 AM

There needs to be a minimum of 25k for first place, in all IFBB sanctioned, pro contests.

correct me if i'm wrong but 25k is the sanctioning fee for most men pro shows.  i could have sworn shawn ray posted that a couple of years ago.  that's why lindsey only does amateur and women's shows.
Title: Re: Why do most of the IFBB sanctioned contests have shitty prize money?
Post by: Grape Ape on October 01, 2014, 04:03:29 AM
We will see this sunday night. The Patriots play the Bengals at home.

The Pats were embarrassed by the Chiefs. I fully expect them to gut it up, and beat the Bengals.

Will that solve the problems? No, but it will show people that they need to calm down.



Pretty much.  The line about questioning the QB position is pretty stupid.  I've said Brady's in decline, but not to the point the way people are reacting up here.

But, this is a team that was lucky to beat Oakland, and got walloped by the Chefs.  So Sunday is going to be a good test.
Title: Re: Why do most of the IFBB sanctioned contests have shitty prize money?
Post by: erics on October 01, 2014, 10:13:46 AM
Prize money means less to many people than narcissistic gratification.

With that in mind, it is easy to see why shows offer such shitty prize money.

Because they can offer less.
Title: Re: Why do most of the IFBB sanctioned contests have shitty prize money?
Post by: Lobstah on October 01, 2014, 02:56:56 PM
Prize money means less to many people than narcissistic gratification.

With that in mind, it is easy to see why shows offer such shitty prize money.

Because they can offer less.
Agreed, and guilty as charged (now if only I could manage to win one or the other...)