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Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger - 1980 only - the lean dry champ
« Reply #1625 on: October 07, 2020, 03:07:14 PM »
Zane looked like a swimmer..

I never got that swimmer meme. Comparing a multi Mr. Olympia winner to a swimmer. Compare Zane to the two greatest swimmers of all time. I just don't see it.




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Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger - 1980 only - the lean dry champ
« Reply #1626 on: October 08, 2020, 08:24:50 AM »
 "zane looks like a swimmer" is just an expression due to the fact he was so small. Zane is one of those guys that in a bodybuilding line up he is just tiny. doesnt really look like a bodybuilder. BUT  by himself in certain poses zane is pure perfection. Thats why people have a hard time saying he deserved to be mr olympia. i believe he deserved his victories due to the fact that there were not any real competitors   that gave him any real threat in 77 78 or even 79. However 1980 there was and zane wasnt at his best. I believe he ( or walker)  deserved second.  Dickerson shouldnt of been in the top 6.

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Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger - 1980 only - the lean dry champ
« Reply #1627 on: October 08, 2020, 08:50:44 AM »
"zane looks like a swimmer" is just an expression due to the fact he was so small. Zane is one of those guys that in a bodybuilding line up he is just tiny. doesnt really look like a bodybuilder. BUT  by himself in certain poses zane is pure perfection. Thats why people have a hard time saying he deserved to be mr olympia. i believe he deserved his victories due to the fact that there were not any real competitors   that gave him any real threat in 77 78 or even 79. However 1980 there was and zane wasnt at his best. I believe he ( or walker)  deserved second.  Dickerson shouldnt of been in the top 6.


No real competitors 🙄   Robby Robinson & Mike Mentzer to name only 2.

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Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger - 1980 only - the lean dry champ
« Reply #1628 on: October 08, 2020, 09:18:14 AM »

No real competitors 🙄   Robby Robinson & Mike Mentzer to name only 2.

Great post some poster on here are baffling here is my response


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Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger - 1980 only - the lean dry champ
« Reply #1629 on: October 08, 2020, 11:01:02 AM »
robby was a great bodybuilder BUT he always blew it at mr olympia time. he could never get it together ( although in his defense he was very ill with the flu in 78 i believe it was) mentzer well he just never had it to begin with. wasnt a bad bodybuilder but no real threat to zane.  frank knew exactly how to dial it in.  plus in that era they ( the ifbb) wanted bb to go mainstream and a frank zane look appealed to almost everyone. it was acheivable by most ( or so they thought) so the powers that be wanted that look to sell mags supps equipment etc.  again i am no fan of zane BUT he was the best in 77 78 79 and i also think in 76 too.  after arnold won in 80 and franco in 81 the ifbb didnt know which direction to take it.  hard to reward it to the little guy (but more complete) because by then people were looking for mass monsters again. so they tried (with dickerson and samir) to keep it achievable by the masses but it just didnt work. so after that they threw that plan away and started going toward mass. and now look where it is today. big bloated big gutted 300 lb slobs. people dont understand bodybuilding was an art. sculpter. not just getting huge. balance synnetry proportion and great posing. the total package. guys nowdays cant pose they eiother look like they are constipated or have their stupid tongue hanging out. smh

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Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger - 1980 only - the lean dry champ
« Reply #1630 on: October 09, 2020, 03:12:20 AM »
"zane looks like a swimmer" is just an expression due to the fact he was so small. Zane is one of those guys that in a bodybuilding line up he is just tiny. doesnt really look like a bodybuilder. BUT  by himself in certain poses zane is pure perfection. Thats why people have a hard time saying he deserved to be mr olympia. i believe he deserved his victories due to the fact that there were not any real competitors   that gave him any real threat in 77 78 or even 79. However 1980 there was and zane wasnt at his best. I believe he ( or walker)  deserved second.  Dickerson shouldnt of been in the top 6.

No competition? He beat the best bodybuilders in the IFBB during his 3 year win - Robby, Roy Callender, Kal Szkalak, Roger Walker, Dennis Tinerino, Ken Waller, Mike Mentzer, Danny Padilla, Chris Dickerson, Boyer Coe, Ed Corney, Mohamed Makkawy and others. In those days, there were always more competitors in the Under 200 Pound Class and Zane never looked small onstage in that division. It was a different time and he looked fantastic onstage. I saw all three of his wins from 1977-79 and I thought he deserved them all.

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Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger - 1980 only - the lean dry champ
« Reply #1631 on: October 09, 2020, 06:48:06 AM »
did you even read my post? i said he deserved his 77 78 and 79 wins and maybe should of won in 76 too. when i said there was no real competition i didnt mean that the guys were not great bodybuilders just that they didnt compare to zane.  yes the under 200 lb class was full of awesome bodybuilders but they didnt really have a chance against zane. the over 200 only had 2 or 3 or 4 guys and really only robby stood a chance but he never could dial it in. zane was kinda unique. he was 5ft 9 ish and 185 to 190 for shows. most guys at that time was  very short(under 5ft 7)  to be under 200lbs.  he knew he couldnt bulk up so he did the best with what he had. he was a thinking mans bodybuilder.. i actually thought he looked better in i think 83 or 84.or maybe 85 he filled out was over 200 lbs i believe but still had awesome symmetry ( maybe even better).  the guys then all looked healthy balanced and exactly how its supposed to be. they busted their asses in the gym posed beautifully and didnt have roid guts ( except mentzer he seemed to be the first one to get it ) but then again he started using insulin after he learned from tim belknap how to. tim was a diabetic. in fact mentzer switched his diet around after he started insulin. he went to a high carb low protein diet for shows.   not much was known about insulin then. 

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Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger - 1980 only - the lean dry champ
« Reply #1632 on: October 09, 2020, 09:11:40 PM »
"zane looks like a swimmer" is just an expression due to the fact he was so small. Zane is one of those guys that in a bodybuilding line up he is just tiny. doesnt really look like a bodybuilder. BUT  by himself in certain poses zane is pure perfection. Thats why people have a hard time saying he deserved to be mr olympia. i believe he deserved his victories due to the fact that there were not any real competitors   that gave him any real threat in 77 78 or even 79. However 1980 there was and zane wasnt at his best. I believe he ( or walker)  deserved second.  Dickerson shouldnt of been in the top 6.

Yes, that's a good point. But when I was told that Zane weighed only about 185-190 lbs when he won the Olympia I was surprise how well he stood up standing next to Mentzer, Cole, and Robby. He had a very balance and appealing physique but in my subjective opinion, during his era, 77,78,79 I thought Robby had more of a freak factor and more becoming of a Mr. Olympia.

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Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger - 1980 only - the lean dry champ
« Reply #1633 on: October 09, 2020, 09:22:11 PM »
I never understood the appeal of Dickerson. He had great calves and his back look great standing relax from the back but I thought that Samir, Zane, Casey, even Beckles all looked better than Dickerson in '82.

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Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger - 1980 only - the lean dry champ
« Reply #1634 on: October 09, 2020, 09:29:07 PM »
I never understood the appeal of Dickerson. He had great calves and his back look great standing relax from the back but I thought that Samir, Zane, Casey, even Beckles all looked better than Dickerson in '82.

Dicksuckerson was a manho.  He made gay porn and I have zero doubts was gifted his Olympia because he smoked wang like the Marloboro man smoked cigarettes.   He is the WORST Olympia winner of all time.  Even crummier than Phildo the Dildo Heath and I despise Heath no end.

Even worse than Franco '81.  Padilla made Dickerson look like the ambulatory pile of shit he was and still they gave it to that fucking buttslut Dicksuckerson.   He was to train at a gym I used in the 80s and one of the employees told me that Chris wasn't just gay, but a total fucking anal vacuum kind of gay and he wasn't beneath dropping hints like bars of soap in a jailhouse shower. 

I stayed out of the gym that day as I didn't want to put up with that shit and I would not have. 


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Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger - 1980 only - the lean dry champ
« Reply #1635 on: October 09, 2020, 09:48:55 PM »
Dicksuckerson was a manho.  He made gay porn and I have zero doubts was gifted his Olympia because he smoked wang like the Marloboro man smoked cigarettes.   He is the WORST Olympia winner of all time.  Even crummier than Phildo the Dildo Heath and I despise Heath no end.

Even worse than Franco '81.  Padilla made Dickerson look like the ambulatory pile of shit he was and still they gave it to that fucking buttslut Dicksuckerson.   He was to train at a gym I used in the 80s and one of the employees told me that Chris wasn't just gay, but a total fucking anal vacuum kind of gay and he wasn't beneath dropping hints like bars of soap in a jailhouse shower. 

I stayed out of the gym that day as I didn't want to put up with that shit and I would not have.

LOL @ "anal vacuum"! You do have a way with words. I'm definitely going to use that in the future. Sometimes I regret calling a truce with Prime when I have so much material to work with but he was really bringing out the worse in me and I decided it was better to just live and let live as long as he doesn't provoke me. We've been able to maintain a precarious detante so far.

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Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger - 1980 only - the lean dry champ
« Reply #1636 on: October 10, 2020, 07:07:49 AM »
LOL @ "anal vacuum"! You do have a way with words. I'm definitely going to use that in the future. Sometimes I regret calling a truce with Prime when I have so much material to work with but he was really bringing out the worse in me and I decided it was better to just live and let live as long as he doesn't provoke me. We've been able to maintain a precarious detante so far.

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Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger - 1980 only - the lean dry champ
« Reply #1637 on: October 10, 2020, 06:22:25 PM »
take it offline

But I thought you cared?   :'(

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Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger - 1980 only - the lean dry champ
« Reply #1638 on: October 10, 2020, 07:24:47 PM »
I never got that swimmer meme. Comparing a multi Mr. Olympia winner to a swimmer. Compare Zane to the two greatest swimmers of all time. I just don't see it.





In the early 80's there was a fitness show on network TV that was usually on late afternoon. Can't recall the name. Zane was on it and gave exercise tips and workout programs. I was taken aback at how big and perfect he looked. Some swimmer, lol

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Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger - 1980 only - the lean dry champ
« Reply #1639 on: October 24, 2020, 06:00:05 PM »
Arnold's worst shape ever for Olympia :'(

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Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger - 1980 only - the lean dry champ
« Reply #1640 on: October 25, 2020, 05:29:45 PM »
 :D ;D

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Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger - 1980 only - the lean dry champ
« Reply #1641 on: October 25, 2020, 05:30:57 PM »
delts :o

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Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger - 1980 only - the lean dry champ
« Reply #1642 on: October 26, 2020, 03:26:29 AM »
Arnold's worst shape ever for Olympia :'(

The angle doesn’t help in that picture .  On stage he owned everyone. 

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Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger - 1980 only - the lean dry champ
« Reply #1643 on: October 26, 2020, 04:26:05 PM »
Arnold's worst shape ever for Olympia :'(


Looks like that pic has been very badly altered

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Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger - 1980 only - the lean dry champ
« Reply #1644 on: October 26, 2020, 08:30:27 PM »
delts :o

interesting how the rear bicep... the guys here are standing up straight.... now the butt is popped out and legs are more engaged

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Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger - 1980 only - the lean dry champ
« Reply #1645 on: October 26, 2020, 09:27:49 PM »
interesting how the rear bicep... the guys here are standing up straight.... now the butt is popped out and legs are more engaged

They're squatty little midgies, even the taller ones.  The do this no matter their positioning, front, back, side, it matters not. They're all little guys in their minds because without their dope they would be skinny, flabby midgies.

They squish themselves down to show their oversized legs and they stick their asses out to mesmerize their schmoe followers.  Fucking disgusting turds.

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Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger - 1980 only - the lean dry champ
« Reply #1646 on: October 27, 2020, 07:50:29 PM »

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Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger - 1980 only - the lean dry champ
« Reply #1647 on: October 27, 2020, 07:54:41 PM »
[Photo by Robert Nailon]

in 1980, Arnold's delts looked unusually big...is it just me? ??? ;)




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Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger - 1980 only - the lean dry champ
« Reply #1648 on: October 27, 2020, 09:14:14 PM »
[Photo by Robert Nailon]

in 1980, Arnold's delts looked unusually big...is it just me? ??? ;)


Absolutely, I was about to write this.
It really helped him on stage, he was the widest among them all.
His relatively weak bodypart was his strong point that year, he really is smart, he was lighter and relatively smaller but he came dry and with the help of fuller delts his large frame crushed his apponents.

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Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger - 1980 only - the lean dry champ
« Reply #1649 on: October 28, 2020, 04:24:32 AM »
[Photo by Robert Nailon]

in 1980, Arnold's delts looked unusually big...is it just me? ??? ;)



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