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Re: Liberalism Is A Disease
« Reply #125 on: February 08, 2016, 02:44:31 PM »
Mills is the grandfather of socialism, Marx....the father. Modern socialism is a bastertization of Hitlers National socialism....youre welcome.
Totally wrong.  Care to provide any source material for that statement?

Again, proclaiming something as a fact, does not make it so.  Your above statement is one of the most outlandish things I have ever heard.

Yes, Bernie Sanders and Tony Benn,  modern Socialists, have/had a lot in common with NAZIs.

You are a moron.


Not much further to the right than Nazis.  

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Re: Liberalism Is A Disease
« Reply #126 on: February 08, 2016, 02:46:03 PM »
The Troll Adonis.
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Re: Liberalism Is A Disease
« Reply #127 on: February 08, 2016, 02:47:33 PM »
Mills is the grandfather of socialism, Marx....the father. Modern socialism is a bastertization of Hitlers National socialism....youre welcome.
No You are welcome.  Here learn something:
http://www.politifact.com/texas/statements/2015/oct/16/jason-villalba/jason-villalba-said-bernie-sanders-democratic-soci/
Similarly, Barbara Miller Lane, a Bryn Mawr College professor and co-editor of a compilation of Nazi ideology before 1933, said by email: "The Nazis were NOT ‘democratic socialists,’ whatever that means. The Nazis were never democrats and never real socialists either." While there was a longstanding and distinguished Social Democratic Party in Germany from the 1870 to the 1920s, Lane wrote, the Nazis fought against it, and after 1933 imprisoned its leaders.


Lane added: "The Nazis opposed all traditional socialism, wanting to substitute something they called ‘German socialism’ or ‘Aryan socialism.’ This meant citizenship and privileges only for ‘Aryans’ (meaning non-Jews), concentration camps for others."

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Re: Liberalism Is A Disease
« Reply #128 on: February 08, 2016, 02:50:03 PM »
When you read these and these and these.....then I'll take the time to explain things to you, or not

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Re: Liberalism Is A Disease
« Reply #129 on: February 08, 2016, 02:50:49 PM »
The Troll Adonis.

He's trying to derail the thread because he is afraid he'll end up in a straight jacket.


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Re: Liberalism Is A Disease
« Reply #130 on: February 08, 2016, 02:51:07 PM »
The Troll Adonis.

No, just tired of morons spreading lies and myths and not knowing a fucking thing about what they spew.

Its crazy how many decades they go believing in bullshit.  They then teach others this bullshit and the ideas of bullshit are that much harder to kill.  I call it the virus of ignorance.  The best we can do is contain it and kill it.

However, there are many who are immune to Evidence, Fact, Data and Primary Sources etc...

Einstein realized this and knew that ignorance expands exponentially.   :-\

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Re: Liberalism Is A Disease
« Reply #131 on: February 08, 2016, 02:51:45 PM »

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Re: Liberalism Is A Disease
« Reply #132 on: February 08, 2016, 02:51:58 PM »
And these and these and.....and their 2 tiers deep

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Re: Liberalism Is A Disease
« Reply #133 on: February 08, 2016, 02:52:35 PM »
When you read these and these and these.....then I'll take the time to explain things to you, or not
Obviously you don't read enough or you would not have made the stupid statements in this thread as you did.

Seriously, did you think I would not notice?

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Re: Liberalism Is A Disease
« Reply #134 on: February 08, 2016, 02:53:13 PM »

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« Reply #135 on: February 08, 2016, 02:54:22 PM »
And these and these and.....and their 2 tiers deep
Nice try, but you don't have enough years in your life to read all of those.


I don't understand your point at all with these pictures?  What is it you are trying to say?  Are you claiming to have read all of those books?  ???

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Re: Liberalism Is A Disease
« Reply #136 on: February 08, 2016, 02:54:52 PM »
Obviously you don't read enough or you would not have made the stupid statements in this thread as you did.

Seriously, did you think I would not notice?

Your retort is as base as your obvious lack of education....maybe the GetBig cabal might not notice a second class citizen but anyone with some classical education can see you for the fraud you are. Now meme me a cat misspelling something.

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Re: Liberalism Is A Disease
« Reply #137 on: February 08, 2016, 02:56:14 PM »
Nice try, but you don't have enough years in your life to read all of those.


I don't understand your point at all with these pictures?  What is it you are trying to say?  Are you claiming to have read all of those books?  ???

Yes I did and more, I haven't shown research literature nor industry specific books....want those pics?

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Re: Liberalism Is A Disease
« Reply #138 on: February 08, 2016, 03:00:13 PM »
Yes I did and more, I haven't shown research literature nor industry specific books....want those pics?
No I don't want those pictures at all.

You are blatantly lying and its obvious.  No idea why you are doing this.  Maybe you can check some books out on Socialism and learn why you were wrong.  Then you can read about Nazi history and learn that they had nothing to do with Socialism whatsoever.


Somehow you seem to think you know more than the actual person (Bacon,Orwell etc) or an actual scholar on Nazism but say the most outlandish statements that are the complete opposite.


Then you post pictures of books (that would be IMPOSSIBLE to read in one lifetime) and claim that you read them all.  However, your statements do not match up at all with that ridiculous statement.

I can only conclude that you are a moron.  Sorry.  You did it to yourself.

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Re: Liberalism Is A Disease
« Reply #139 on: February 08, 2016, 03:03:09 PM »
Maybe Sagan can help you with this:


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Re: Liberalism Is A Disease
« Reply #140 on: February 08, 2016, 03:06:27 PM »
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You are blatantly lying and its obvious.  No idea why you are doing this.  Maybe you can check some books out on Socialism and learn why you were wrong.  Then you can read about Nazi history and learn that they had nothing to do with Socialism whatsoever.
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LMAO!! You idiot!!!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism

National Socialism
(German: Nationalsozialismus), more commonly known as Nazism (/ˈnɑːtsɪzəm, ˈnæ-/[1]) or Naziism (/ˈnɑːtsi.ɪzəm/), is the ideology and practice associated with the 20th-century German Nazi Party and Nazi state as well as other far-right groups.

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Re: Liberalism Is A Disease
« Reply #141 on: February 08, 2016, 03:07:45 PM »
Why Nazism Was Socialism and Why Socialism Is Totalitarian
https://mises.org/library/why-nazism-was-socialism-and-why-socialism-totalitarian


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Re: Liberalism Is A Disease
« Reply #142 on: February 08, 2016, 03:08:11 PM »
No I don't want those pictures at all.

You are blatantly lying and its obvious.  No idea why you are doing this.  Maybe you can check some books out on Socialism and learn why you were wrong.  Then you can read about Nazi history and learn that they had nothing to do with Socialism whatsoever.


Somehow you seem to think you know more than the actual person (Bacon,Orwell etc) or an actual scholar on Nazism but say the most outlandish statements that are the complete opposite.


Then you post pictures of books (that would be IMPOSSIBLE to read in one lifetime) and claim that you read them all.  However, your statements do not match up at all with that ridiculous statement.

I can only conclude that you are a moron.  Sorry.  You did it to yourself.

I'm sorry it takes you months to read a See Spot Run book, believe or not believe.....I could care less. You are an apologist for a failed ideology nothing more.

Most can recognize your flavor of shill....the rest don't matter.

Thankfully you're probably poor and don't "matter".

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Re: Liberalism Is A Disease
« Reply #143 on: February 08, 2016, 03:11:00 PM »
LMAO!! You idiot!!!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism

National Socialism
(German: Nationalsozialismus), more commonly known as Nazism (/ˈnɑːtsɪzəm, ˈnæ-/[1]) or Naziism (/ˈnɑːtsi.ɪzəm/), is the ideology and practice associated with the 20th-century German Nazi Party and Nazi state as well as other far-right groups.

It's one of those annoying association that the socialists have tried to bury as fast as a dog with a smelly turd. Fortunately just like the turd socialism is, it smells so bad it just won't go away. :)

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Re: Liberalism Is A Disease
« Reply #144 on: February 08, 2016, 03:13:55 PM »
When his position and arguments are razed to the ground like most of Detroits socialized slums...the ad hominem attack will commence. ROTF

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Re: Liberalism Is A Disease
« Reply #145 on: February 08, 2016, 03:16:53 PM »


Glad you posted that.

http://www.politifact.com/texas/statements/2015/oct/16/jason-villalba/jason-villalba-said-bernie-sanders-democratic-soci/




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Villalba
"Bernie Sanders admits he is a Democratic Socialist. … Nazis were Democratic Socialists."

— Jason Villalba on Tuesday, October 13th, 2015 in a tweet
Jason Villalba said Bernie Sanders is a Democratic Socialist and "Nazis were Democratic Socialists"

By W. Gardner Selby on Friday, October 16th, 2015 at 10:30 a.m.



Bernie Sanders proudly declares himself a democratic socialist. A Texas state representative suggested that Sanders must somehow then be aligned with the Nazis of Adolf Hitler.

State Rep. Jason Villalba, R-Dallas, posted a tweet during the CNN-hosted Democratic presidential debate Oct. 13, 2015, that opened: "The modern Democrat Party is filled with Democratic Socialists and soft socialists. Is this where we are in America?"

To that tweet, Villalba attached an image of what looked like an old document stating: "That awkward moment when … 1) Bernie Sanders admits he is a Democratic Socialist. 2) Nazis were Democratic Socialists 3) America fought an entire World War to stop the advance of Democratic Socialists." The image closed: "Sincerely, Sane Americans."


A Democratic activist, Ed Espinoza of Progress Texas, brought it to our attention for a fact check.

We didn’t hear back from Villalba about the presented "Democratic Socialist" conclusions. But he told the Dallas Morning News and Jonathan Tilove, chief political writer for the Austin American-Statesman, that the image with its mentions of Sanders and the Nazis was a meme he found online.

He also insisted his tweet wasn’t likening Democrats to Nazis. "So is the history accurate in this?" Villalba told Tilove by phone. "Of course not. Look, was I trying to make a connection between Sanders and the Nazi party? Absolutely not. I categorically reject any suggestion that that  is what I was intending to do."

By the next day, Villalba's tweet was no longer posted by him. Regardless, we checked its accuracy.


Sanders a democratic socialist

Sanders, the independent Vermont senator running for the Democratic presidential nomination, considers himself a democratic socialist. He’s also Jewish.

In the debate, moderator Anderson Cooper delved in:

COOPER: "You call yourself a democratic socialist. How can any kind of socialist win a general election in the United States?"

SANDERS: "Well, we're going to win because first, we're going to explain what democratic socialism is. And what democratic socialism is about is saying that it is immoral and wrong that the top one-tenth of 1 percent in this country own almost 90 percent - almost - own almost as much wealth as the bottom 90 percent. That it is wrong, today, in a rigged economy, that 57 percent of all new income is going to the top 1 percent.

"That when you look around the world, you see every other major country providing healthcare to all people as a right, except the United States. You see every other major country saying to moms that, when you have a baby, we're not going to separate you from your newborn baby, because we are going to have - we are going to have medical and family paid leave, like every other country on Earth.

"Those are some of the principles that I believe in and I think we should look to countries like Denmark, like Sweden and Norway, and learn from what they have accomplished for their working people…"

COOPER: …"You don't consider yourself a capitalist, though?"

SANDERS: "Do I consider myself part of the casino capitalist process by which so few have so much and so many have so little by which Wall Street's greed and recklessness wrecked this economy? No, I don't. I believe in a society where all people do well. Not just a handful of billionaires."

Nazis

And were the Nazis also Democratic Socialists?

We consulted historians and books, finding the Nazi party’s full name was the National Socialist German Workers’ Party. That name was adopted in 1920; before that, the party had been the German Workers’ Party.

But there was little socialist about the party’s platform or Hitler’s actions once he acceded to leading Germany in the early 1930s.

By phone and email, Rice University historian Peter Caldwell told us the key word in the party’s name was "national" and the party’s focus was on building nationalism — a focus ultimately reflected in Hitler’s twisted vision of cleansing the country of residents, especially Jews, not considered of pure German blood. While socialists on the left celebrate democracy, Caldwell said, the word has a different meaning on the right — in this instance, he said, excluding people who are not part of the nation, hence rejecting Jews and communists and, in pre-World War II Germany, democracy itself.

Caldwell said the "misleading" tweet suggesting an alignment between Sanders’ professed democratic socialism and Hitler’s party would "have Hitler turning in his grave, wherever the grave is. The Nazis loudly opposed democracy, the first and foremost thing." Also, he said, "they were opposed to emancipating the workers, giving them the rights to vote and to organize" in unions.

Similarly, Barbara Miller Lane, a Bryn Mawr College professor and co-editor of a compilation of Nazi ideology before 1933, said by email: "The Nazis were NOT ‘democratic socialists,’ whatever that means. The Nazis were never democrats and never real socialists either." While there was a longstanding and distinguished Social Democratic Party in Germany from the 1870 to the 1920s, Lane wrote, the Nazis fought against it, and after 1933 imprisoned its leaders.

Lane added: "The Nazis opposed all traditional socialism, wanting to substitute something they called ‘German socialism’ or ‘Aryan socialism.’ This meant citizenship and privileges only for ‘Aryans’ (meaning non-Jews), concentration camps for others."

According to the "The Cambridge Illustrated History of Germany," Hitler joined the German Workers’ Party in 1919, the year before the party’s decision to add National and Socialist to its name.

At the time, according to the book, supporters included "well-placed anti-Semites and extreme nationalists" who hoped to gain influence over members of the working class; Hitler, a spellbinding orator, became the party’s chairman in 1921. Another book, "A Brief History of Germany," says the Nazi’s "appealed to a broad swath of the German population, attracting fervent nationalists and radical conservatives, as well as those who hated the Versailles settlement, feared the communists, or despised the Jews."

Our ruling

Villalba said Sanders "admits he is a democratic socialist… Nazis were Democratic Socialists."

Sanders calls himself a democratic socialist. The Nazis were not democratic socialists. Whether or not Villalba intended to link Sanders to the Nazis, his tweet neatly did the job.

We find this claim historically inaccurate and ridiculous. Pants on Fire!

PANTS ON FIRE – The statement is not accurate and makes a ridiculous claim.


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Re: Liberalism Is A Disease
« Reply #146 on: February 08, 2016, 03:19:11 PM »
It's one of those annoying association that the socialists have tried to bury as fast as a dog with a smelly turd. Fortunately just like the turd socialism is, it smells so bad it just won't go away. :)
Can you explain to me what is Democratic about North Korea since its official name is: North Korea, officially the Democratic People's Republic of Korea

 ???  ???  ???

You are a moron.

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Re: Liberalism Is A Disease
« Reply #147 on: February 08, 2016, 03:19:37 PM »
I am truly convinced that there is a direct correlation between large pitch letter and lower IQ, similar to monster truck tires.

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Re: Liberalism Is A Disease
« Reply #148 on: February 08, 2016, 03:20:33 PM »
So by your logic, Democracies are horrible/bad forms of government because North Korea calls itself a Democratic Republic.

Got it.   ::)

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Re: Liberalism Is A Disease
« Reply #149 on: February 08, 2016, 03:21:24 PM »
I am truly convinced that there is a direct correlation between large pitch letter and lower IQ, similar to monster truck tires.
I am convinced you are a liar and a moron based on your very own posts and nothing else.

Oh well, you did it to yourself.