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http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fgw-japan-nuclear-20110405,0,2720438.story
Japan's nuclear workers try to trace leak, dump radioactive water. Milky bath salts are added to the water, which continues to flow despite efforts to plug the leak. Concern grows about the amount of tainted water being dumped.
TOKYO— Workers used a milky bathwater dye Monday as they frantically tried to trace the path of radioactive water seeping into the ocean from Japan's tsunami-damaged nuclear plant.
The crack in a maintenance pit discovered over the weekend was the latest confirmation that radioactivity continues to spill into the environment. The leak is a symptom of the primary difficulty at the Fukushima Daiichi complex: Radioactive water is pooling around the plant and preventing workers from powering up cooling systems needed to stabilize dangerously vulnerable fuel rods.
The plant operators also deliberately dumped 10,000 tons of tainted water -- measuring about 500 times above the legal limit for radioactivity -- into the ocean Monday to make space at a storage site for water that is even more highly radioactive.
Engineers have turned to a host of improvised and sometimes bizarre methods to tame the nuclear plant after it was crippled in Japan's magnitude 9.0 quake and tsunami on March 11.
Efforts over the weekend to clog the leak with a special polymer, sawdust and even shredded newspapers failed to halt the flow at a cracked concrete maintenance pit near the shoreline. The water in that leak contains radioactive iodine at rates 10,000 times the legal limit.
Suspecting they might be targeting the wrong channel to the pit, workers tried to confirm the leak's pathway by dumping several pounds of milky bath salts into the system, plant operator Tokyo Electric Power Co. said Monday.
"There could be other possible passages that the water may be traveling. We must watch carefully and contain it as quickly as possible," said Hidehiko Nishiyama, a spokesman for the Nuclear Safety and Industrial Agency.
Radioactive water has pooled throughout the plant because the operator has been forced to rely on makeshift ways of pumping water into the reactors -- and allowing it to gush out wherever it can -- to bring down temperatures and pressure in the cores.
Government officials conceded Sunday that it will likely be several months before the cooling systems are completely restored. And even after that happens, there will be years of work ahead to clean up the area around the complex and figure out what to do with it.
The makeshift system makes it difficult to contain the radiation leaks, but it is aimed a preventing fuel rods from going into a full meltdown that would release even more radioactivity into the environment.
"We must keep putting water into the reactors to cool to prevent further fuel damage, even though we know that there is a side effect, which is the leakage," Nishiyama said. "We want to get rid of the stagnant water and decontaminate the place so that we can return to our primary task to restore the sustainable cooling capacity as quickly as possible."
To that end, the plant's operator, Tokyo Electric Power Co., said it jettisoned the 10,000 tons of water Monday, clearing space in a waste-storage facility. The government decided to allow the step as "an unavoidable emergency measure," Chief Cabinet Secretary Yukio Edano said.
An additional 1,500 tons will be dumped from a trench under the plant's units 5 and 6. That water is threatening to interfere with the workings at those units, whose reactors are under control.
Radioactivity is quickly diluted in the ocean, and Edano said the dump should not affect the safety of seafood in the area.
The crisis has unfolded as Japan deals with the aftermath of twin natural disasters that decimated large swaths of its northeastern coast. Up to 25,000 people are believed to have died in the disaster, and tens of thousands lost their homes. Thousands more were forced to flee a 12-mile radius around the plant because of the radiation.
The 8-inch-long crack was discovered in the maintenance pit over the weekend. It is sending radioactive water into area that is normally blocked off by a seawall, but a crack was also discovered in that outer barrier Monday.
Though it later authorized the dumping of slightly radioactive water, the government said Monday it was growing concerned about the sheer volume of contaminated materials spilling into the Pacific. It is not clear how much water has leaked from the pit so far.
"Even if they say the contamination will be diluted in the ocean, the longer this continues, the more radioactive particles will be released and the greater the impact on the ocean," Edano said. "We are strongly urging TEPCO that they have to take immediate action to deal with this."
The crisis has sparked protests in Japan and raised questions around the world about the safety of nuclear power. The head of the International Atomic Energy Agency told delegates at a nuclear safety conference Monday that the industry cannot afford to ignore these concerns.
"We cannot take a 'business as usual' approach," Yukiya Amano said.
The operator said Monday it is ordering fencing that is typically used to contain oil spills. The screens are not designed to trap radioactivity but might curtail the flow of water and thus reduce the spread of contamination, said TEPCO manager Teruaki Kobayashi. It was not clear when they would arrive.
All of the plant's reactors were designed by General Electric, and the company's CEO met Sunday with TEPCO's chairman. Jeffrey Immelt told reporters Monday that more than 1,000 engineers from GE and its partner Hitachi are helping to analyze the problems at the plant.
Immelt also offered assistance in dealing with the electricity shortage brought on by damage to Dai-ichi and other power plants. Japan is expecting a shortfall of at least 10 million kilowatts come summer.
Gas turbines are on their way from the U.S. with both long- and short-term capabilities, Immelt said.
Japan Internet conglomerate Softbank Corp. said Monday that CEO Masayoshi Son will donate $120 million of his personal wealth plus his salary until he retires to help tsunami victims.
Softbank, the only Japanese mobile carrier offering the iPhone, will also give away mobile phone handsets to tsunami orphans and pay their phone bills until the children turn 18, said company spokeswoman Makiko Ariyama.
Son's 10 billion yen donation to the Japanese Red Cross Society and other nonprofit organizations is the biggest by an individual to quake and tsunami victims, Ariyama said.
Son, 53, will also donate all of his annual salary each year to aid organizations until he retires.
His salary was 108 million yen ($1.3 million) in the fiscal year through March 2010. Apart from Son's personal wealth and salary, Softbank said the company will give 1 billion yen to the Japanese Red Cross to support the disaster victims.
>:( >:(
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country of peace ::)
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i guess no more fish for a long time
>:(
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PIP BlackFlagRedStar
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Dilution is the solution to pollution
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Seems that Jay's healthy fish diet is in danger - does he also receive donations?
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i guess no more fish for a long time
>:(
Yep what they gonna eat now?
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Fuck, we detonated how many nuclear weapons on bikini atoll? It`ll be alright, don`t you worry bout a thing.
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Radon kills 10's of thousands a year and I never hear someone worrying about it. How much plutonium kills again? Oh yeah, usually 0.
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Radon kills 10's of thousands a year and I never hear someone worrying about it. How much plutonium kills again? Oh yeah, usually 0.
Criticality accidents have occurred in the past, some of them with lethal consequences. Careless handling of tungsten carbide bricks around a 6.2 kg plutonium sphere resulted in a fatal dose of radiation at Los Alamos on August 21, 1945, when scientist Harry K. Daghlian, Jr. received a dose estimated to be 5.1 Sievert (510 rems) and died 28 days later.[99] Nine months later, another Los Alamos scientist, Louis Slotin, died from a similar accident involving a beryllium reflector and the same plutonium core (the so-called "demon core") that had previously claimed the life of Daghlian.[100] These incidents were fictionalized in the 1989 film Fat Man and Little Boy.
In December 1958, during a process of purifying plutonium at Los Alamos, a critical mass was formed in a mixing vessel, which resulted in the death of a chemical operator named Cecil Kelley.[101] Other nuclear accidents have occurred in the Soviet Union, Japan,The United States and many other countries.[101]
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History shows again and again how nature points up the folly of men.
/godzilla
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Space Godzilla.
Best.Name.Evar.
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japan was once mighty, what happened? 1990s bank overspending
beware USA
kick obama and bernanke before this happens silently to you
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YES............fuking GOOKS suck.....wish the whole place was nuked....
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Fuck, we detonated how many nuclear weapons on bikini atoll? It`ll be alright, don`t you worry bout a thing.
x2.
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x2.
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Looks like Branch won't let anything get in the way of his winning the Olympia
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Fuck the Japanese. Let's drop some more nukes on those cunnts.
Stupid fucking Japs building nuclear power plants right by the beach in a tsunami zone. That should have never been allowed in the first place. Build the fucking nuclear plants up on higher ground you idiots.
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maybe they thought they were dumping it someplace else
those Japs don't have the best eyesight
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Looks like Branch won't let anything get in the way of his winning the Olympia
Seems also like he finally got his waist under control.
On a side note: Lots of scared little pussies in this thread, looks like BlackFag is pissing his pants again. Hint: In the shithole country where BlackFag lives, it's more dangerous to eat out in a restaurant than directly drinking Japanese sea water.
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Seems also like he finally got his waist under control.
On a side note: Lots of scared little pussies in this thread, looks like BlackFag is pissing his pants again. Hint: In the shithole country where BlackFag lives, it's more dangerous to eat out in a restaurant than directly drinking Japanese sea water.
Which shithole country do I live in? Please tell me.
Yeah. I'm a pussy because I want to stay away from high levels of radiation. Real men just don't give a fuck about little things like radiation. ::)
DKII is a straight up bitch. Takes himself real seriously. Tries too hard be cool and popular here. Tries to portray himself as something he's not. Acts like he's some kind of a boss but he's never posted a pic. Typical delusional egomaniac getbigger. What a fake mother fucker this guy is.
There's a reason why his posts are really short and smug, and he never posts a pic, he's afraid of being outted as the little bitch he really is.
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Fuck the Japanese. Let's drop some more nukes on those cunnts.
this
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Which shithole country do I live in? Please tell me.
Yeah. I'm a pussy because I want to stay away from high levels of radiation. Real men just don't give a fuck about little things like radiation. ::)
DKII is a straight up bitch. Takes himself real seriously. Tries too hard be cool and popular here. Tries to portray himself as something he's not. Acts like he's some kind of a boss but he's never posted a pic. Typical delusional egomaniac getbigger. What a fake mother fucker this guy is.
There's a reason why his posts are really short and smug, and he never posts a pic, he's afraid of being outted as the little bitch he really is.
If you actually look at the radiation levels, (measurements taken by the government and independent researchers) they are not that high. Compared to the rest of the crap people put in their bodies with preservatives in food, alcohol, cigarettes, pollution in the air, etc...
But, radiation is the new terrorism...the unseen enemy that can strike at any time.. ::)
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If you actually look at the radiation levels, (measurements taken by the government and independent researchers) they are not that high. Compared to the rest of the crap people put in their bodies with preservatives in food, alcohol, cigarettes, pollution in the air, etc...
But, radiation is the new terrorism...the unseen enemy that can strike at any time.. ::)
The radiation is a lot worse than the media is telling you. If you believe what the media reports about this you are a gullible mother fucker.
Hope that helps.
It's always interesting how people just swallow what the media feeds them without even thinking about it.
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The radiation is a lot worse than the media is telling you. If you believe what the media reports about this you are a gullible mother fucker.
Hope that helps.
It's always interesting how people just swallow what the media feeds them without even thinking about it.
That's my point, I'm not following what the media is parroting. The media I've seen has said Tokyo is a ghost town and people are staying indoors. I was there a week ago...it's not.
I live just under 100kms from the plants. We get daily readings for air and water samples from the prefecture. Could they be lying and fudging their results? Sure, but the World Health Organization is also monitoring the readings too...you can't fake this stuff.
The situation is definitely bad for the people working at the plants, they are definitely getting exposed to much higher levels than would be considered healthy. The people in the immediate vicinity are gonna have a tough time with contaminated food - not so much from the health aspects but from the stigma they are already facing from within Japan and outside. TEPCO are a bunch of lying assholes, but they are no different from any big company in Japan, the US or anywhere else. The Japanese government is slow and inept, but they have always been that way, so this is nothing new either.
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That's my point, I'm not following what the media is parroting. The media I've seen has said Tokyo is a ghost town and people are staying indoors. I was there a week ago...it's not.
I live just under 100kms from the plants. We get daily readings for air and water samples from the prefecture. Could they be lying and fudging their results? Sure, but the World Health Organization is also monitoring the readings too...you can't fake this stuff.
The situation is definitely bad for the people working at the plants, they are definitely getting exposed to much higher levels than would be considered healthy. The people in the immediate vicinity are gonna have a tough time with contaminated food - not so much from the health aspects but from the stigma they are already facing from within Japan and outside. TEPCO are a bunch of lying assholes, but they are no different from any big company in Japan, the US or anywhere else. The Japanese government is slow and inept, but they have always been that way, so this is nothing new either.
What you are saying could be true.
Or, they could all be fudging the numbers to keep people from panicking and keep economic turmoil under control?
Follow the money. It would be VERY unprofitable if it were revealed that the radiation levels are really bad.
Irradiated food is a major concern. Especially seafood, lots of fish and clams can accumulate unhealthy amounts of radiation. Also plutonium getting into the environment could be VERY fucked up. They've already found plutonium in the soil near the plant. One microscopic speck of that shit will kill you.
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Which shithole country do I live in? Please tell me.
I thought you were in Korea ???
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I thought you were in Korea ???
That could be possible. Maybe i'm in China though?
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That could be possible. Maybe i'm in China though?
Nah.....it's Korea, I remember now.
How do you pick Korea though? I mean I would have picked a shitload more countries before I ended up in Korea. :-\
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Nah.....it's Korea, I remember now.
How do you pick Korea though? I mean I would have picked a shitload more countries before I ended up in Korea. :-\
What are you talking about dude, Korea is fucking awesome :-X
I just go where the wind takes me, wander the Earth, get into adventures.
I don't get tied down anywhere, so I can move along anytime I want. Next fall i'm gonna make another move, probably move back to Thailand.
Korea sucks in many ways, but it has a few aspects that are very nice. If you're a hustler you can make big money in Korea.
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What are you talking about dude, Korea is fucking awesome :-X
I just go where the wind takes me, wander the Earth, get into adventures.
I don't get tied down anywhere, so I can move along anytime I want. Next fall i'm gonna make another move.
Korea sucks in many ways, but it has a few aspects that are very nice. If you're a hustler you can make big money in Korea.
Are you just travelling & exploring Asia and other parts of the world or are you going to be living there for a while?
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That could be possible. Maybe i'm in China though?
Maybe Vietnam ? Hoes are cheap there.
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What you are saying could be true.
Or, they could all be fudging the numbers to keep people from panicking and keep economic turmoil under control?
Follow the money. It would be VERY unprofitable if it were revealed that the radiation levels are really bad.
Irradiated food is a major concern. Especially seafood, lots of fish and clams can accumulate unhealthy amounts of radiation. Also plutonium getting into the environment could be VERY fucked up. They've already found plutonium in the soil near the plant. One microscopic speck of that shit will kill you.
Yes, that is a possibility, and I don't put it past the government to try and make the situation look better than it is. But the amount of money and backlash they would have to pay if they did lie and were caught later...as I mentioned you can't hide this stuff, whether it's in the food, water, air. It's not like a chemical spill which is localized and the government can bullshit their way out.
I have an acquaintance living in Tokyo who's a bit of a nerd doing his own daily readings. Just a regular guy living in Japan with no government or company affiliations. So far, his readings have been in line with the official readings.
Radiated food is a concern, which is why exports of vegetables and milk in the surrounding areas have been halted as a precaution. If there were shipments getting out and were discovered, there would be such an uproar, even here where people are generally docile and apathetic about what the government says.
My opinion so far - the situation is serious but not panic worthy. If things change then I can make my own decisions accordingly.
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Are you just travelling & exploring Asia and other parts of the world or are you going to be living there for a while?
I've already been in Asia for a few years.
Life is good here. Travel a few times per year, easy to make money, easy life riding the gravy train, sex with lots of Asian women, lots and lots of opportunities to make side money on the easy.
Go back to the USA and work like a dog? Get 30% of my money taken for taxes, pay a couple hundred dollars per month for crappy health insurance, get like 2 weeks of vacation per year. Probably get paid a low salary. Doesn't sound attractive to me.
USA is cool if you have lots and lots of money. For a working man, the USA is pretty fucked up these days.
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I like when Adonis called them "Termite People" ;D
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Fuck the Japanese. Let's drop some more nukes on those cunnts.
Stupid fucking Japs building nuclear power plants right by the beach in a tsunami zone. That should have never been allowed in the first place. Build the fucking nuclear plants up on higher ground you idiots.
Nuclear engineer speaking! Shut up people and listen!
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Dilution is the solution to pollution
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A medical student... planning on writing his own prescriptions... and will be the biggest guy in D Block.
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Are you just travelling & exploring Asia and other parts of the world or are you going to be living there for a while?
Next stop,Uranus :-X
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Next stop,Uranus :-X
Wouldn't be surprised if they taught you Uranus was in Asia @ school ;D
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Wouldn't be surprised if they taught you Uranus was in Asia @ school ;D
Or a storage area for a light sabre ;)
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I thought you were in Korea ???
North-Korea? :o
(http://www.asianews.it/files/img/NORTH_KOREA_(F)_0407_-_Labor_Camp.jpg)
Word is, North-Korea has started their own basketball league to rival NBA:
(http://www.nbainchina.com/wp-content/uploads/north-korea-basketball.jpg)
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Or a storage area for a light sabre ;)
:D
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Whats Kim gonna do about radiation flowing around his waters?
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Whats Kim gonna do about radiation flowing around his waters?
Kim is going to.... stay cool :D
(http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01413/kimjongil1_1413451a.jpg)