Did Obama pardon Killary?

[Dos Equis]

If money is power and it is, you are absolutely right, Republican's control most of the country. According to an article in Forbes 56% of America's richest families are affiliated with the Republican Party.

One caveat: Some of these family fortunes are shared among dozens or even hundreds of people, so we were only able to track political donations of a subset of prominent members.

Here are the political affiliations of America’s 50 richest families, ranked according to wealth:

1. Walton – Republican

2. Koch – Republican

3. Mars – Republican

4. Cargill-MacMillan – Republican

5. Johnson (Fidelity) – Republican

6.  Hearst – Republican

7. Cox – Democrat

8. Pritzker – Both

9. Johnson (S.C. Johnson) – Republican

10. Duncan – Republican

11. Newhouse – Democrat

12. Lauder – Both

13. Du Pont – Republican

14. Hunt – Republican

15. Ziff – Both

16. Johnson (Franklin Templeton) – Republican

17. Busch – Both

18. Dorrance – Both

19. Mellon – Republican

20. Brown – Both

21. Carlson – Both

22. Fisher – Republican

23. Butt – Democrat

24. Rockefeller – Both

25. Gallo – Democrat

26. Marshall – Republican

27. Bass – Both

28. Meijer – Republican

29. Bechtel – Republican

29. Reyes – Republican

29. Simplot – Republican

32. Rales – Both

33. Rollins – Republican

34. Scripps – Republican

35. Crown – Both

36. Stryker – Democrat

37. Smith – Republican

38. Pigott – Republican

39. Shoen – Both

39. Simon – Democrat

41. Lefrak – Both

42. Hughes – Republican

42. Phipps – Republican

44. Kluge – Both

44. Tisch – Democrat

46. Johnson (Johnson & Johnson) – Republican

47. Marriott – Republican

48. Kohler – Republican

49. Perot – Both

50. Barbey – Republican

I'm only talking about legislative control. 

And you have to be kidding if you're going to try and play the who has the wealthiest members game.  The Democrat Party is full of fat cats. 

[Primemuscle]

Your premise is false.  He hasn't proposed "tax breaks for the rich."  He has talked about cutting everyone's taxes.

You're right, he did propose tax breaks for all, however the biggest tax cuts are for the rich 1%. Some middle income folks will actually see a tax increase, under Trump's proposal. Since I was making a comparison between Trump's plan and Reagan's tax cuts, my premise is not false. Reagan did cut taxes for everyone.

[Dos Equis]

You're right, he did propose tax breaks for all, however the biggest tax cuts are for the rich 1%. Some middle income folks will actually see a tax increase, under Trump's proposal. Since I was making a comparison between Trump's plan and Reagan's tax cuts, my premise is not false. Reagan did cut taxes for everyone.

The biggest cuts for the people who pay most of the taxes?  Isn't that how it should work? 

You cannot reasonably compare Trump talking about cutting everyone's taxes to Reagan, if you contend Reagan did not cut taxes for everyone.  By your own definition, their proposals are not the same. 

[Skeletor]

If money is power and it is, you are absolutely right, Republican's control most of the country. According to an article in Forbes 56% of America's richest families are affiliated with the Republican Party.

One caveat: Some of these family fortunes are shared among dozens or even hundreds of people, so we were only able to track political donations of a subset of prominent members.

Here are the political affiliations of America’s 50 richest families, ranked according to wealth:

1. Walton – Republican

2. Koch – Republican

3. Mars – Republican

4. Cargill-MacMillan – Republican

5. Johnson (Fidelity) – Republican

6.  Hearst – Republican

7. Cox – Democrat

8. Pritzker – Both

9. Johnson (S.C. Johnson) – Republican

10. Duncan – Republican

11. Newhouse – Democrat

12. Lauder – Both

13. Du Pont – Republican

14. Hunt – Republican

15. Ziff – Both

16. Johnson (Franklin Templeton) – Republican

17. Busch – Both

18. Dorrance – Both

19. Mellon – Republican

20. Brown – Both

21. Carlson – Both

22. Fisher – Republican

23. Butt – Democrat

24. Rockefeller – Both

25. Gallo – Democrat

26. Marshall – Republican

27. Bass – Both

28. Meijer – Republican

29. Bechtel – Republican

29. Reyes – Republican

29. Simplot – Republican

32. Rales – Both

33. Rollins – Republican

34. Scripps – Republican

35. Crown – Both

36. Stryker – Democrat

37. Smith – Republican

38. Pigott – Republican

39. Shoen – Both

39. Simon – Democrat

41. Lefrak – Both

42. Hughes – Republican

42. Phipps – Republican

44. Kluge – Both

44. Tisch – Democrat

46. Johnson (Johnson & Johnson) – Republican

47. Marriott – Republican

48. Kohler – Republican

49. Perot – Both

50. Barbey – Republican

Where is Warren Buffet in that list? Is he not wealthy anymore?

[Primemuscle]

He and a lot of other folks are on Forbes, 50 richest people in America. The list to which you refer is the 50 richest families. On the richest people list Warren Buffet is #3. Bill Gates is #1.

[Soul Crusher]

Hillary Negotiating Secret Pardon With Obama’s White House Counsel
True Pundit ^ | December 27, 2016
Posted on 12/29/2016, 10:10:24 AM by COUNTrecount

Hillary and Bill Clinton are secretly negotiating framework for a potential pardon from President Barack Obama that would spare Hillary from looming criminal indictments, according to Justice Department sources.

But there’s a catch, as there often is when it comes to legal proceedings and the Clinton family. Neil Eggleston, White House Counsel to the President who oversees and approves all presidential pardons and commutations, was previously employed by President Bill Clinton’s White House as a key lawyer to the former president and Hillary Clinton. Also, Eggleston has previously represented Cheryl Mills, a key Hillary attorney believed to be involved in Clinton’s clemency negotiations.

Even though she has not been charged yet with any crimes, the Obama pardon would shield Hillary from any criminal charges she could face under a Donald Trump administration and a Sen. Sessions-led Justice Department.

Sources said Obama green-lighted the Clinton talks with Eggleston prior to departing for his last vacation in Hawaii. However, allowing the Clintons and their attorneys to negotiate directly with Eggleston smacks of a serious conflict of interest, whether or not the sides agree on acceptable clemency terms for the former secretary of state. In an corruption-free administration, Eggleston would step aside and recuse himself from such negotiations having served as a Clinton family lawyer during the most tumultuous period of Bill’s Clinton’s presidency, including his impeachment.

But the Obama administration is anything but corruption free.

Hillary Clinton is the target of at least one criminal FBI probe for mishandling classified and top secret emails and government secrets and possibly other criminal charges as the FBI is likewise investigating the Clinton Foundation for money laundering and pay-to-play involved crimes.

Clinton family legal consigliere David Kendall, who co-defended President Clinton with Eggleston during Whitewater and the Lewinsky affair, did not return requests for comment.

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[Primemuscle]

Hillary Negotiating Secret Pardon With Obama’s White House Counsel
True Pundit ^ | December 27, 2016
Posted on 12/29/2016, 10:10:24 AM by COUNTrecount

Hillary and Bill Clinton are secretly negotiating framework for a potential pardon from President Barack Obama that would spare Hillary from looming criminal indictments, according to Justice Department sources.

But there’s a catch, as there often is when it comes to legal proceedings and the Clinton family. Neil Eggleston, White House Counsel to the President who oversees and approves all presidential pardons and commutations, was previously employed by President Bill Clinton’s White House as a key lawyer to the former president and Hillary Clinton. Also, Eggleston has previously represented Cheryl Mills, a key Hillary attorney believed to be involved in Clinton’s clemency negotiations.

Even though she has not been charged yet with any crimes, the Obama pardon would shield Hillary from any criminal charges she could face under a Donald Trump administration and a Sen. Sessions-led Justice Department.

Sources said Obama green-lighted the Clinton talks with Eggleston prior to departing for his last vacation in Hawaii. However, allowing the Clintons and their attorneys to negotiate directly with Eggleston smacks of a serious conflict of interest, whether or not the sides agree on acceptable clemency terms for the former secretary of state. In an corruption-free administration, Eggleston would step aside and recuse himself from such negotiations having served as a Clinton family lawyer during the most tumultuous period of Bill’s Clinton’s presidency, including his impeachment.

But the Obama administration is anything but corruption free.

Hillary Clinton is the target of at least one criminal FBI probe for mishandling classified and top secret emails and government secrets and possibly other criminal charges as the FBI is likewise investigating the Clinton Foundation for money laundering and pay-to-play involved crimes.

Clinton family legal consigliere David Kendall, who co-defended President Clinton with Eggleston during Whitewater and the Lewinsky affair, did not return requests for comment.

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I doubt Trump will be getting any pre-emptive pardons from Obama.

[SaintAnger]

First:  Coach, focus on your business for a change.  You have OCD about this shit.  Get a fucking grip already.  Your girlfriend must be ready to commit suicide.

Second:  The RNC will self destruct.  Name ONE TIME in history where they were able to hold it together without implosion, disgust, etc.  This will be an incredible cluster.  All we have to do is survive through it.

We probably won't.