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Sunday Biker Gang Shooting Leaves Nine Dead, 16 Injured
KWTX (May 17, 2015) By: Lauren Partain, Carlos Garcia and Brandon Marshal
Three rival motorcycle gangs turned a local restaurant into a shooting gallery Sunday afternoon and when the gunfire was over, nine people were dead and 17 were injured..
Waco police Sunday afternoon, assisted by Department of Public Safety troopers, police officers from several cities and deputies from the McLennan County Sheriff's Office were surrounding the Twin Peaks Restaurant, in the Central Texas Market Place after several people were reported shot during a rival motorcycle gang fight, Waco police Sgt. W. Patrick Swanton said.
Police and troopers were in the parking lot trying to secure the area and protect citizens when a fight broke out inside the restaurant and spilled into the parking lot.
Swanton said the fight quickly escalated from fists and feet to chains, clubs and knives, then to gunfire.
Gang members were shooting at each other and officers at the scene fired their weapons, as well, Swanton said.
The scene at the Market Place between Don Carlos and Twin Peaks was absolute chaos, Swanton said.
"It is one of the most violent scene I've seen in my 34 years as a police officer in Waco," Swanton said.
Swanton said officers recovered more than 100 weapons from the scene and there were several vehicles that had bullet holes in them.
Swanton said no officers and no civilians were injured.
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http://www.kwtx.com/home/headlines/Waco-Shooting-Near-Twin-Peaks-In-Waco-304043711.html (http://www.kwtx.com/home/headlines/Waco-Shooting-Near-Twin-Peaks-In-Waco-304043711.html)
http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/17/us/texas-shooting/ (http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/17/us/texas-shooting/)
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Guess the race
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Biker gang ::) oh brother .
Lesson of the day: grow the fuck up.
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This wouldn't have happened on Jax's watch
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Biker gang ::) oh brother .
Lesson of the day: grow the fuck up.
X 2. 40 year old pep boy tire changers playing dress up. LARPing for methheads :-\
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The Hells Angels would dominate if they ever stepped into the octagon.
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This is how these dudes try to impress the Twin Peaks wait staff?
Solid effort I guess.
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Biker gang ::) oh brother .
Lesson of the day: grow the fuck up.
no shit, WTF is wrong with people, this happened about an hour from me and there claiming it was a parking spot dispute :-\
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They were stacking them like cord wood it seems. I'm seeing some smaller clubs named The Cassocks, Vaqueros. I wouldn't be surprised if some Bandidos show up in the mix. Texas news feeds are showing that the various clubs are calling in reenforcements.
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/05/18/00/28CBCB9E00000578-3085546-image-a-21_1431905532727.jpg).
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Biker gang ::) oh brother .
Lesson of the day: grow the fuck up.
I realize these aren't the Hells Angels, but the minute nine people are dead and you're shooting at police, you transition from a club to a gang. The bottom line is these guys screwed up today and many of them are going to server time because of it.
I live in Texas and wondered why my neighbor would take his gun with him every time he would ride his Harley. This is the reason. I bet over half these guys had guns on them.
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even money the cops starting shooting first and ballistics show all the dead were hit by cop bullets.
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I realize these aren't the Hells Angels, but the minute nine people are dead and you're shooting at police, you transition from a club to a gang. The bottom line is these guys screwed up today and many of them are going to server time because of it.
I live in Texas and wondered why my neighbor would take his gun with him every time he would ride his Harley. This is the reason. I bet over half these guys had guns on them.
Fuck em worthless pos. why any grown man needs to be in a gang and carry a gun is beyond me. Some deep deep issues there
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even money the cops starting shooting first and ballistics show all the dead were hit by cop bullets.
THIS.
cops panic and send 15+1 rounds in the general direction which is leaving them scared/startled/angry.
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dont recognize any of the club names. Probably all smaller ones under the Bandidos, HA's or something
I realize these aren't the Hells Angels, but the minute nine people are dead and you're shooting at police, you transition from a club to a gang. The bottom line is these guys screwed up today and many of them are going to server time because of it.
I live in Texas and wondered why my neighbor would take his gun with him every time he would ride his Harley. This is the reason. I bet over half these guys had guns on them.
try all of them
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I'd hate to have to prosecute this case - at least 5 different gangs were involved, estimated 150 - 200 people involved.
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Meh
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About time. These tough guy outlaws hadn't done anything press worthy since they roughed up some hippie at a grateful dead concert in 1967. I was starting to think all they did was ride around and bake cupcakes.
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I'd hate to have to prosecute this case - at least 5 different gangs were involved, estimated 150 - 200 people involved.
I read Bandidos and Cassocks, who else?
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Meh
Those bikers are chaos friends. Chaos is part of a biker gang.
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The streets are safer with these goofballs locked-up or dead.
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if you don't like it
don't look at it
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Lol
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The ZimZam laughs at such folly.
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Biker gang ::) oh brother .
Lesson of the day: grow the fuck up.
All of us joined Getbig, so we need to grow up as well..
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I read Bandidos and Cassocks, who else?
A couple of smaller ones were there too, the Scimitars, Leathernecks, Veterans and Los Pirados. It seems like the big battle was the Bandidos and Cassocks, with affiliated clubs joining in too.
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It all started when someone made fun of ESFitness in the parking lot... ::)
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This basically happened because of different badges sewn into a waistcoat? I've never understood mentality like that.
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Jim Neidhart really lost a lot of weight.
Where are Jesse and Al?? #BikersLivesMatter
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About time. These tough guy outlaws hadn't done anything press worthy since they roughed up some hippie at a grateful dead concert in 1967. I was starting to think all they did was ride around and bake cupcakes.
This
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Jim Neidhart really lost a lot of weight.
Where are Jesse and Al?? #BikersLivesMatter
I see Lee Priest turned in his posing trunks for a leather vest.
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The Hells Angels would dominate if they ever stepped into the octagon.
Hells angels tried to set up a chapter in central texas.. Bandidos handed them their asses.
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THIS.
cops panic and send 15+1 rounds in the general direction which is leaving them scared/startled/angry.
have no idea anymore when you are serious or playing a moron :)
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All about the territory..
Like they say biker gangs are a poor
man's Mafia..
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They cops said the bikers "pointed " their weapons at them
so they opened fire..
I'm sure the cops killed most of them.
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This wouldn't have happened on Jax's watch
This.
Where's Chibs and Tig when you need them?
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Fuck em worthless pos. why any grown man needs to be in a gang and carry a gun is beyond me. Some deep deep issues there
Organized crime is merely about money, whatever level its on. So yeah there is a deep issue.
American biker gangs hardly seemed organized though. No powerful group would ever operate like this. Embarrassing and childish, was probably about "turf" ::)
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Guess the race
White devils? ???
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If only everyone involved was armed. Wouldn't have happened.
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everyone wanna plat jax teller nowadays ::)
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For me, it's kind of ridiculous the lengths these grown men go to play biker bad ass. How seriously they take it. For example, you have to get permission from the main club for that region before you can start your own MC. And unless you are a 1% or a sister club that is authorized you better not be wearing a rocker patch. 90% of them are losers who need to belong to something or they have no identity. Followers who feel they now matter. Not unlike the TV series, the leaders tend to use the members for their own gain all the while playing the brotherhood card. I'd bet that only a handful of the group at Twins Peak were bad asses and the rest were there assuming nothing was going to happen and scoping out the chicks. When the shit started going down they were pissing their pants trying to get out of the way. I would suspect after the smoke clears there will be a sudden and noticeable decrease in membership as the majority just wanted to play bad ass and not really be in any danger.
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http://heavy.com/news/2015/05/cossacks-motorcycle-club-biker-gang-waco-texas-shootout-shooting-members-photos-patch-video-scimitars-history-arrests-crimes-rival-bandidos/
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Guess I'll have to postpone joining a biker gang. :-\
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Biker gangs are just another form of organized crime. They have a ranking structure. They deal in drugs mainly meth, prostitution and intimidation pay offs for their "protection."
Glad the cops responded promptly to these lunatics who were armed to the teeth having their turf war. You want to wave a gun around with threats then the cops will rightly end that threat.
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Biker gangs are just another form of organized crime. They have a ranking structure. They deal in drugs mainly meth, prostitution and intimidation pay offs for their "protection."
Glad the cops responded promptly to these lunatics who were armed to the teeth having their turf war. You want to wave a gun around with threats then the cops will rightly end that threat.
why didn't they just taze them?
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why didn't they just taze them?
Hmmm, lets see: Hundreds of bikers with guns. You dont taze. You use deadly force (guns).
One guy vs. 10 cops, you can probably taze. Instead, cops prefer to beat the shit out of the person.
Seems like cops cant tell the difference when to use deadly force and when not to. :-\ :-\
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Hmmm, lets see: Hundreds of bikers with guns. You dont taze. You use deadly force (guns).
One guy vs. 10 cops, you can probably taze. Instead, cops prefer to beat the shit out of the person.
Seems like cops cant tell the difference when to use deadly force and when not to. :-\ :-\
You're just a typical progressive liberal cop hater. Are there any gears turning in that head of yours?
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You're just a typical progressive liberal cop hater. Are there any gears turning in that head of yours?
Bump bump.
Lets just say I have partied with the Red and white.
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I understand these guys are criminals but I'm not worried about them breaking into my house or stealing my car. They deal dope, run hookers, and the like. Stay out of their way and they'll stay out of yours. Seems silly to me, but don't care.
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I understand these guys are criminals but I'm not worried about them breaking into my house or stealing my car. They deal dope, run hookers, and the like. Stay out of their way and they'll stay out of yours. Seems silly to me, but don't care.
Really only have to worry about the meth heads trying to raise money to buy dope from them... breaking into your house, or stealing your car. Go back to sleep
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why didn't they just taze them?
Or carefully placed rounds in legs?
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Or carefully placed rounds in legs?
right?!
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Word is that there has been a "green light" given for open war against the police in Waco. Curious.
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Word is that there has been a "green light" given for open war against the police in Waco. Curious.
Not really. On the surface it would be a super stupid move by the club and while not rocket scientist, they aren't that stupid. Plus, anytime there is a "shoot any cop in uniform" order given, whether it be by the Crips, Bloods or biker gangs, we simply wear bathrobes to work over our uniforms for a few days and it foils their plans every time.
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Not that I disagree with you, but why would the Chief of Police make a statement that they had credible information that a "green light" was indeed corroborated? Is this a ploy by the cops to keep that out of the biker gangs minds?
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X 2. 40 year old pep boy tire changers playing dress up. LARPing for methheads :-\
I love how you call the Bandidos, the second largest biker gang in the world, a bunch of 40 year old pep boy tire changers playing dress up. Something tells me you wouldn't say that to their faces.
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I love how you call the Bandidos, the second largest biker gang in the world, a bunch of 40 year old pep boy tire changers playing dress up. Something tells me you wouldn't say that to their faces.
exactly
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I love how you call the Bandidos, the second largest biker gang in the world, a bunch of 40 year old pep boy tire changers playing dress up. Something tells me you wouldn't say that to their faces.
One on one, man to man, or ten bikers against one?
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One on one, man to man, or ten bikers against one?
on an internet forum or in real life?
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Haha!
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have no idea anymore when you are serious or playing a moron :)
i was being serious.
Turns out at least 4 of the 9 were killed with police bullets.
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Waco police: Some bikers may have been shot by officers
Source: USA Today
A phalanx of law enforcement officers were combing a bloody, bullet-riddled crime scene Monday, trying to sort out who killed whom a day after a melee involving rival biker gangs left nine people dead.
Some of the dead and wounded may have been shot by officers responding to the bedlam at the Twin Peaks restaurant franchise, Waco police spokesman Sgt. W. Patrick Swanton said.
"They started shooting at our officers and our officers returned fire," Swanton said. Most of the dead and wounded suffered from gunshot and stab wounds, he added.
"It is a pretty gruesome scene," Swanton said.
How many bikers may have died from police gunfire is not yet known. Citing a law enforcement source, CNN reported that four of the dead bikers were shot by police.
Read more: http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/05/18/waco-shootout-police-involvement/27530257/
170 charged with capital murder.
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Probably find in time that all the gun shots were inflicted by police, bar room brawl with weapons that escalated to a shoot out with the police when they couldn't get control due to lack of numbers.
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This is similar to the Milperra (Sydney suburb) massacre ,2nd Sep. 1984 outside Viking tavern & shutout between MC Comancheros (4 dead) & MC Bandidos (2 dead), 28 wounded + 1 innocent bystander died.
Bandidos (ex Comanche's) destroyed Comanchero's in this legendary 'dance'.
Look for AU TV series 'Bikers War' about that brawl, good TV shit !.
or
www.bandidosmc.com.au
www.comanchero-mc.com
www.ozbiker.org
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as white people we need to riot... attacking a armed police officer is unjustified
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To bad the cops didnt shoot all of them...i dont care if they beat eachother to death in the woods but starting this bloody fight where there are children around that will have nightmares and be terrified is sick. Just because of that its a shamed that the cops didnt shoot everyone of them. I have close friends in the hells angels and i would say the samething if they started to fight with weapons around my kid
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Absolutely incredible that the gang members fired upon the police first and not a single police officer was killed, hit or even grazed by a bullet. This sounds more and more like an organized and systematic mass assassination designed to rid the streets of 180 gang members. What a coincidence it happened down the road from Ruby Ridge.
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They charged a bunch, but I bet they only charge a few in the long run. It's too hard to figure who was acting in legitimate self defense, and who wasn't. Meanwhile you hard change/high bail a bunch, and you hope some flip or start dry snitching on themselves. Also, Texas has a huge ride along and bike meet the first or second week of June, so it keeps a bunch off the street for that, or it allows the state to cancel it.
There is also talk that a bunch will wind up in the slam on parole beefs.
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You're just a typical progressive liberal cop hater. Are there any gears turning in that head of yours?
Awwww someone criticized the cops and you're all butt hurt. Those damn progressive liberals. Poor baby. You deluded idiot. Go away.
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I understand these guys are criminals but I'm not worried about them breaking into my house or stealing my car. They deal dope, run hookers, and the like. Stay out of their way and they'll stay out of yours. Seems silly to me, but don't care.
somehow I don't think you would be as magnanimous if they were a tad darker in shade
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Absolutely incredible that the gang members fired upon the police first and not a single police officer was killed, hit or even grazed by a bullet. This sounds more and more like an organized and systematic mass assassination designed to rid the streets of 180 gang members. What a coincidence it happened down the road from Ruby Ridge.
yep. It'll end up being "cops killed 4 of them, 5 of them are INCONCLUSIVE", and 180 people charged with murder.
I guess that's how Texas deals with gangs.
However, as with all things "2015", video will emerge at some point, and we'll see some smartmouth causing some cop to open fire, a few cops emptying their magazines, a bunch of people running, and voila, cops create the narrative they want. VIDEO can mix that up, of course.
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Shit went down cause one biker rode in on a Vespa.
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I hope biker gang members Running mom and Princess L don't get caught up in this mess.
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One on one, man to man, or ten bikers against one?
This.
Buddy of mine was close to putting a local biker in the hospital in a bar fight when all his buddies jumped in and fucked up my buddy.
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This is similar to the Milperra (Sydney suburb) massacre ,2nd Sep. 1984 outside Viking tavern & shutout between MC Comancheros (4 dead) & MC Bandidos (2 dead), 28 wounded + 1 innocent bystander died.
Bandidos (ex Comanche's) destroyed Comanchero's in this legendary 'dance'.
Look for AU TV series 'Bikers War' about that brawl, good TV shit !.
or
www.bandidosmc.com.au
www.comanchero-mc.com
www.ozbiker.org
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Don't you guys call them "bikies," though?
Really gays it up, btw.
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yep. It'll end up being "cops killed 4 of them, 5 of them are INCONCLUSIVE", and 180 people charged with murder.
I guess that's how Texas deals with gangs.
However, as with all things "2015", video will emerge at some point, and we'll see some smartmouth causing some cop to open fire, a few cops emptying their magazines, a bunch of people running, and voila, cops create the narrative they want. VIDEO can mix that up, of course.
Thanks, dude. Saved me the time of following up.
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I'm glad these thugs are off the street. These filthy animals need to receive life in jail. If George Bush had a son. ....
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The black prison inmates are now scared of shit knowing that a 150 white bikers will be in their prisons soon
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The black prison inmates are now scared of shit knowing that a 150 white bikers will be in their prisons soon
the bitch behind this username is a minority ::)
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I'm glad these thugs are off the street. These filthy animals need to receive life in jail. If George Bush had a son. ....
... his peeps would be thieving arsonists by now?
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the bitch behind this username is a minority ::)
Wah wah wah. Angry black man alert.
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The black prison inmates are now scared of shit knowing that a 150 white bikers will be in their prisons soon
you're obsessed with black people..get a life dude
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I'm glad these thugs are off the street. These filthy animals need to receive life in jail. If George Bush had a son. ....
:D
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Cops should have just let them kill each other off
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Dead Bikers Of Peace
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I'm glad these thugs are off the street. These filthy animals need to receive life in jail. If George Bush had a son. ....
Says a black man, the irony... ::)
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even money the cops starting shooting first and ballistics show all the dead were hit by cop bullets.
Yup....Looks like some biker gang members were killed by the biggest gang of them all.....
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/05/18/waco-shootout-police-involvement/27530257/
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Fuck em worthless pos. why any grown man needs to be in a gang and carry a gun is beyond me. Some deep deep issues there
says a guy who joined the navy.... ???
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The New York Times
FERNANDEZ, SERGE F. KOVALESKI and ALAN BLINDERMAY 18, 2015
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“The view of the Bandidos is that Texas is their state,” said Terry Katz, the vice president of the International Association of Outlaw Motorcycle Gang Investigators. “They are the big dogs of Texas, and then this other, smaller club — the Cossacks — comes along in 1969 or so, and they decide that they are not going to bow down.”
The Bandidos take their supremacy so seriously that in El Paso in 2012, five members and associates were arrested on allegations that they attacked bikers belonging to other groups because the Bandidos had not given them permission to wear their “colors,” or group logos. Members who fight in the name of a motorcycle club are often rewarded with patches and pins.
One slogan displayed in the 1990s by Bandidos members caught up in a Nordic turf war with the Hells Angels seemed to sum up the group’s ethos: “God forgives. Bandidos don’t.”
Don Charles Davis, who writes the biker blog “The Aging Rebel,” said the Waco episode was “a challenge to the Bandidos’ pre-eminence” by less established organizations, like the Cossacks.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/19/us/waco-texas-biker-gang-shooting.html?_r=0 (http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/19/us/waco-texas-biker-gang-shooting.html?_r=0)
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the biker blog “The Aging Rebel,”
Pretty much. Couple more decades and I might make the cut. Probably join The Sciaticas if The Grey Pubes won't let me in.
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Pretty much. Couple more decades and I might make the cut. Probably join The Sciaticas if The Grey Pubes won't let me in.
:)
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"Vice President of the International Association of Outlaw Motorcycle Gang Investigators"
Now thats a title
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i was being serious.
Turns out at least 4 of the 9 were killed with police bullets.
and your problem?
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Yup....Looks like some biker gang members were killed by the biggest gang of them all.....
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/05/18/waco-shootout-police-involvement/27530257/
Did you read the article??
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yep. It'll end up being "cops killed 4 of them, 5 of them are INCONCLUSIVE", and 180 people charged with murder.
I guess that's how Texas deals with gangs.
However, as with all things "2015", video will emerge at some point, and we'll see some smartmouth causing some cop to open fire, a few cops emptying their magazines, a bunch of people running, and voila, cops create the narrative they want. VIDEO can mix that up, of course.
You've entered the twilight zone my friend... You can spin it any way you like but you hate cops because a couple cops laughed at you years ago when your car broke down. Now you can't wait to jump to conclusions about how the cops caused these bikers grief for no apparent reason. Put some big boy pants on and get over it dude
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Not that I disagree with you, but why would the Chief of Police make a statement that they had credible information that a "green light" was indeed corroborated? Is this a ploy by the cops to keep that out of the biker gangs minds?
No that's a good question. I've seen the exact bulletin he's referring to and our department as well as I interpret it differently. But there is a LOT of information coming from many sources since then trying to vet the information. At this point, I am pretty confident it was interpreted incorrectly. With the number of bikers in the area and no cops being shot, it seems to indicate it was bad info, however, things could change.
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"Vice President of the International Association of Outlaw Motorcycle Gang Investigators"
Now thats a title
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Chick at the bar asks what your job title is... ;D
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the body count is way bigger, according to the violent imagery I saw on television.
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the body count is way bigger, according to the violent imagery I saw on television.
But we know now your perception is about worthless
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X2
Chick at the bar asks what your job title is... ;D
Only downside is your business card would have to be A4 size
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Only downside is your business card would have to be A4 size
Make it large size ;D ;D
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He was great.
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The start of the fight from the Cossack's side -
http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/richie-died-then-diesel-then-dog-an-eyewitness-to-the-waco-biker-brawl/2015/05/23/00db6436-1a8a-469b-9d6f-d2283234d281_story.html?postshare=7091432484275997 .
Interest read, especially how lucrative cash wise, the whole Texas rocker thing is.
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Sounds like the Cossacks were set up.
By Tim Madigan and Kevin Sullivan May 23
Washington Post
It started with a phone call.
About a week before Sunday’s gunfight, according to the Cossack, a leader of the Bandidos, a man named Marshall from the Longview area in East Texas, contacted Owen Reeves, the “nomad,” or leader, of the Cossacks’ Central Texas region.
Marshall invited the Cossacks to Twin Peaks on Sunday when the Texas Confederation of Clubs and Independents was scheduled to hold a major meeting. Those meetings are generally about bikers’ rights, safety and other administrative issues. The Bandidos dominate that organization; the Cossacks are not members.
Marshall said that the Bandidos “wanted to get this cleared up,” according to the Cossack, who was relating what he said Reeves told him. “He said, ‘Bring your brothers, hang out, and let’s get this fixed and we can all leave in peace and be happy.’ He was talking to our chapter in Waco. That’s where the heat has been at. The leader of our Central Texas chapter said, ‘Okay, I’m going to make this happen.’ ”
Reeves, who was jailed after the melee, could not be reached for comment. No members of the Bandidos could be reached for comment. Most participants in the violence, and eye-witnesses to it, are in jail, in the hospital or dead. Even waitresses on duty that day have not responded to messages.
The Cossack continued: “Anybody who is a Cossack knows this call was made because the Nomad called everyone and said, ‘We have an opportunity to make this right. I think we should take a risk.’ And everybody agreed.”
Parley turns deadly
The Cossack said he and the others congregated on the outdoor patio and started ordering food and drinks. They chatted with other bikers from smaller “mom and pop” bike clubs, who were already well into their burgers and beers and margaritas ahead of the 1 p.m. confederation meeting.
Guns and other weapons are a common part of biker culture, and the Cossack acknowledged that some members of his gang were armed.
“But not all of us,” he said. “We had no reason to believe that this was going to go that way.”
The parley with the Bandidos had been set for 11 a.m., the Cossack said, but the Bandidos didn’t arrive until about 12:15, when about 100 of them pulled into Twin Peaks in a long, loud line of Harleys.
Trouble started almost immediately, he said: One of the Bandidos, wearing a patch that identified him as a chapter president, ran his bike into a Cossack standing in the parking lot. The Cossack who was hit was a “prospect,” a man in his mid-20s who was “striving to become” a full member of the club.
“They came up really fast, and the prospect turned and faced the bikes,” the Cossack chapter president said. “He fell backward into other [parked] bikes. The guy who hit him stopped and got off of his bike and said, ‘What are you doing? Get . . . out of my way. We’re trying to park.’ ”
Cossacks quickly jumped to the prospect’s defense, he said: “Guys were saying, ‘You’re disrespecting us,’ or, ‘We’re not backing down.’ ”
In a blink, it started, he said: “Two punches: One from them, one from us.”
A Bandido with a patch identifying him as sergeant-at-arms of the same chapter threw a punch at Richard Matthew Jordan II, 31, known as “Richie,” who was from Pasadena, Tex. Jordan punched the guy back.
“At that point in time, the sergeant in arms shot Richie point-blank,” the Cossack said.
Police said Jordan died of a gunshot wound to the head.
“Then all the Bandidos standing in the parking lot started pulling guns and shooting at us,” he said. “There were maybe 60 or 70 of us in the parking lot. . . . We took off running. We scattered. Three of our guys went down instantly. They caught a couple more that tripped and fell, and Bandidos were shooting at them.”
He said that the second man to die was Daniel Raymond Boyett, 44, known as Diesel, a “road captain” in the Cossacks from Waco. Police said that Boyett died from gunshot wounds to the head.
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/richie-died-then-diesel-then-dog-an-eyewitness-to-the-waco-biker-brawl/2015/05/23/00db6436-1a8a-469b-9d6f-d2283234d281_story.html?postshare=7091432484275997 (http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/richie-died-then-diesel-then-dog-an-eyewitness-to-the-waco-biker-brawl/2015/05/23/00db6436-1a8a-469b-9d6f-d2283234d281_story.html?postshare=7091432484275997)
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Sounds like the Cossacks were set up.
By Tim Madigan and Kevin Sullivan May 23
Washington Post
It started with a phone call.
About a week before Sunday’s gunfight, according to the Cossack, a leader of the Bandidos, a man named Marshall from the Longview area in East Texas, contacted Owen Reeves, the “nomad,” or leader, of the Cossacks’ Central Texas region.
Marshall invited the Cossacks to Twin Peaks on Sunday when the Texas Confederation of Clubs and Independents was scheduled to hold a major meeting. Those meetings are generally about bikers’ rights, safety and other administrative issues. The Bandidos dominate that organization; the Cossacks are not members.
Marshall said that the Bandidos “wanted to get this cleared up,” according to the Cossack, who was relating what he said Reeves told him. “He said, ‘Bring your brothers, hang out, and let’s get this fixed and we can all leave in peace and be happy.’ He was talking to our chapter in Waco. That’s where the heat has been at. The leader of our Central Texas chapter said, ‘Okay, I’m going to make this happen.’ ”
Reeves, who was jailed after the melee, could not be reached for comment. No members of the Bandidos could be reached for comment. Most participants in the violence, and eye-witnesses to it, are in jail, in the hospital or dead. Even waitresses on duty that day have not responded to messages.
The Cossack continued: “Anybody who is a Cossack knows this call was made because the Nomad called everyone and said, ‘We have an opportunity to make this right. I think we should take a risk.’ And everybody agreed.”
Parley turns deadly
The Cossack said he and the others congregated on the outdoor patio and started ordering food and drinks. They chatted with other bikers from smaller “mom and pop” bike clubs, who were already well into their burgers and beers and margaritas ahead of the 1 p.m. confederation meeting.
Guns and other weapons are a common part of biker culture, and the Cossack acknowledged that some members of his gang were armed.
“But not all of us,” he said. “We had no reason to believe that this was going to go that way.”
The parley with the Bandidos had been set for 11 a.m., the Cossack said, but the Bandidos didn’t arrive until about 12:15, when about 100 of them pulled into Twin Peaks in a long, loud line of Harleys.
Trouble started almost immediately, he said: One of the Bandidos, wearing a patch that identified him as a chapter president, ran his bike into a Cossack standing in the parking lot. The Cossack who was hit was a “prospect,” a man in his mid-20s who was “striving to become” a full member of the club.
“They came up really fast, and the prospect turned and faced the bikes,” the Cossack chapter president said. “He fell backward into other [parked] bikes. The guy who hit him stopped and got off of his bike and said, ‘What are you doing? Get . . . out of my way. We’re trying to park.’ ”
Cossacks quickly jumped to the prospect’s defense, he said: “Guys were saying, ‘You’re disrespecting us,’ or, ‘We’re not backing down.’ ”
In a blink, it started, he said: “Two punches: One from them, one from us.”
A Bandido with a patch identifying him as sergeant-at-arms of the same chapter threw a punch at Richard Matthew Jordan II, 31, known as “Richie,” who was from Pasadena, Tex. Jordan punched the guy back.
“At that point in time, the sergeant in arms shot Richie point-blank,” the Cossack said.
Police said Jordan died of a gunshot wound to the head.
“Then all the Bandidos standing in the parking lot started pulling guns and shooting at us,” he said. “There were maybe 60 or 70 of us in the parking lot. . . . We took off running. We scattered. Three of our guys went down instantly. They caught a couple more that tripped and fell, and Bandidos were shooting at them.”
He said that the second man to die was Daniel Raymond Boyett, 44, known as Diesel, a “road captain” in the Cossacks from Waco. Police said that Boyett died from gunshot wounds to the head.
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/richie-died-then-diesel-then-dog-an-eyewitness-to-the-waco-biker-brawl/2015/05/23/00db6436-1a8a-469b-9d6f-d2283234d281_story.html?postshare=7091432484275997 (http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/richie-died-then-diesel-then-dog-an-eyewitness-to-the-waco-biker-brawl/2015/05/23/00db6436-1a8a-469b-9d6f-d2283234d281_story.html?postshare=7091432484275997)
Can't be true.. some posters here swear the cops started it and did all the shooting.. now I'm confused..
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WACO JUDGE AGREES TO LET MOST BIKERS GO – IF THEY SIGN A CONTRACT VOWING NOT TO SUE FOR WRONGFUL ARREST “It appears the public defenders office in McLennan County is involved in this scurrilous activity,” said Paul Looney, a Houston attorney with Looney & Conrad, P.C. “I’ve never seen anything like the lawlessness that the authorities have perpetrated on these people and now to add insult to injury they are trying to cover their own tracks in exchange for bond.”
http://washingtonweeklynews.com/texas-tyranny-waco-judge-agrees-to-let-most-bikers-go-if-they-sign-a-contract-vowing-not-to-sue-for-wrongful-arrest/
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WACO JUDGE AGREES TO LET MOST BIKERS GO – IF THEY SIGN A CONTRACT VOWING NOT TO SUE FOR WRONGFUL ARREST “It appears the public defenders office in McLennan County is involved in this scurrilous activity,” said Paul Looney, a Houston attorney with Looney & Conrad, P.C. “I’ve never seen anything like the lawlessness that the authorities have perpetrated on these people and now to add insult to injury they are trying to cover their own tracks in exchange for bond.”
http://washingtonweeklynews.com/texas-tyranny-waco-judge-agrees-to-let-most-bikers-go-if-they-sign-a-contract-vowing-not-to-sue-for-wrongful-arrest/
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Trying to figure out if Washington Weekly News is a satire site before commenting. I don't want to have to leave the site out of embarrassment.
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Trying to figure out if Washington Weekly News is a satire site before commenting. I don't want to have to leave the site out of embarrassment.
FOX news is my favorite satire news site. The way they portray Republicans as angry, hateful hypocrites that want the govt to stay out of their lives, except for the 5000 social issues they feel strongly about...
I love it. Brilliantly done.
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I don't want to have to leave the site out of embarrassment.
Same reason I don't post cock pics.
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FOX news is my favorite satire news site. The way they portray Republicans as angry, hateful hypocrites that want the govt to stay out of their lives, except for the 5000 social issues they feel strongly about...
I love it. Brilliantly done.
Where do you get your serious, objective news?
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FOX news is my favorite satire news site. The way they portray Republicans as angry, hateful hypocrites that want the govt to stay out of their lives, except for the 5000 social issues they feel strongly about...
I love it. Brilliantly done.
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