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SGT Bowe Bergdahl. I thought this guy was dead long ago, but he just got released in a prisoner exchange. He was held for almost five years in Pakistan.
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http://www.cbsnews.com/news/is-sgt-bowe-bergdahl-a-hero-or-a-deserter/ (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/is-sgt-bowe-bergdahl-a-hero-or-a-deserter/)
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We had to give up five senior Taliban leaders held at Gitmo to get Bergdahl back.
What would you do if one of these guys got on your flight? ;D
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i thought the US doesnt bargain with terrorist ? :o
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We had to give up five senior Taliban leaders held at Gitmo to get Bergdahl back.
What would you do if one of these guys got on your flight? ;D
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Chuckle....they weren't senior Taliban Leaders....more like a bunch of low level Gomer Pyles. A kitten would put up a better fight than they would
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Chuckle....they weren't senior Taliban Leaders....more like a bunch of low level Gomer Pyles. A kitten would put up a better fight than they would
Chuckle away, Goodrum. The Pentagon classified them as senior leadership, but I guess you have the real scoop. ::)
According to a 2008 Pentagon dossier on Guantanamo Bay inmates, all five men released were considered to be a high risk to launch attacks against the United States and its allies if they were liberated.
“They are undoubtedly among the most dangerous Taliban commanders held at Guantanamo,” said Thomas Joscelyn, a senior editor at the Long War Journal who keeps a close watch on developments concerning the detainees left at the Guantanamo Bay prison.
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How long before the US hit the explode trigger they implanted on them before releasing them
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I already know how this plays out...
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I already know how this plays out...
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Claire Danes getting railed in a car? I can dig it.
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Chuckle away, Goodrum. The Pentagon classified them as senior leadership, but I guess you have the real scoop. ::)
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Chuckle....they weren't senior Taliban Leaders....more like a bunch of low level Gomer Pyles. A kitten would put up a better fight than they would
Fuck you.
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Earl!?! Welcome to the trailer park, Vince!
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The press seems to be doing a number on this guy....
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Chuckle away, Goodrum. The Pentagon classified them as senior leadership, but I guess you have the real scoop. ::)
They classify everyone they capture as "senior membership"...or they say they "hold vital information" or some other bullshit. The sad fact however is that most of the people in Gitmo were victims of Iraq contractors who were paid by the government to capture soldier who instead just went to farms and villages and kidnapped anyone off the street from goatherders to storekeepers.
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It looks like the soldier's father is a Muslim devoted to Sharia. I am sure that had nothing to do with it.
http://soopermexican.com/2014/06/01/father-of-american-soldier-freed-from-taliban-deletes-a-very-disturbing-tweet/
Oh, and Obama broke the law in not informing Congress. Breaking the law comes mighty easy to our commander in chief.
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Chuckle....they weren't senior Taliban Leaders....more like a bunch of low level Gomer Pyles. A kitten would put up a better fight than they would
Let's see...the administration, the media and the Taliban all say these guys were "senior".
Goodrum says they were low-level. Who to believe, who to believe...
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I hope this kid goes home to enjoy Getbig and KFC.
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Yes, "Gomer Pyle" indeed... ::)
Mullah Mohammad Fazl (Taliban army chief of staff): Fazl is “wanted by the UN for possible war crimes including the murder of thousands of Shiites.” Fazl “was associated with terrorist groups currently opposing U.S. and Coalition forces including al Qaeda, Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan (IMU), Hezb-e-Islami Gulbuddin (HIG), and an Anti-Coalition Militia group known as Harakat-i-Inqilab-i-Islami.” In addition to being one of the Taliban’s most experienced military commanders, Fazl worked closely with a top al Qaeda commander named Abdul Hadi al Iraqi, who headed al Qaeda’s main fighting unit in Afghanistan prior to 9/11 and is currently detained at Guantanamo.
Mullah Norullah Noori (senior Taliban military commander): Like Fazl, Noori is “wanted by the United Nations (UN) for possible war crimes including the murder of thousands of Shiite Muslims.” Beginning in the mid-1990s, Noori “fought alongside al Qaeda as a Taliban military general, against the Northern alliance.” He continued to work closely with al Qaeda in the years that followed.
Abdul Haq Wasiq (Taliban deputy minister of intelligence): Wasiq arranged for al Qaeda members to provide crucial intelligence training prior to 9/11. The training was headed by Hamza Zubayr, an al Qaeda instructor who was killed during the same September 2002 raid that netted Ramzi Binalshibh, the point man for the 9/11 operation. Wasiq “was central to the Taliban's efforts to form alliances with other Islamic fundamentalist groups to fight alongside the Taliban against U.S. and Coalition forces after the 11 September 2001 attacks,” according to a leaked JTF-GTMO threat assessment.
Khairullah Khairkhwa (Taliban governor of the Herat province and former interior minister): Khairkhwa was the governor of Afghanistan’s westernmost province prior to 9/11. In that capacity, he executed sensitive missions for Mullah Omar, including helping to broker a secret deal with the Iranians. For much of the pre-9/11 period, Iran and the Taliban were bitter foes. But a Taliban delegation that included Kharikhwa helped secure Iran’s support for the Taliban’s efforts against the American-led coalition in late 2001. JTF-GTMO found that Khairkhwa was likely a major drug trafficker and deeply in bed with al Qaeda. He allegedly oversaw one of Osama bin Laden’s training facilities in Herat.
Mohammed Nabi (senior Taliban figure and security official): Nabi “was a senior Taliban official who served in multiple leadership roles.” Nabi “had strong operational ties to Anti-Coalition Militia (ACM) groups including al Qaeda, the Taliban, the Haqqani Network, and the Hezb-e-Islami Gulbuddin (HIG), some of whom remain active in ACM activities.” Intelligence cited in the JTF-GTMO files indicates that Nabi held weekly meetings with al Qaeda operatives to coordinate attacks against U.S.-led forces.
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So this guy is a deserter who joined the Taliban?
And his crazy Muslim radical dad came up with this plan with his son with a view to making a trade for the release of the 5 radicals?
Fuckin unbelievable if true :o
More unbelievable that Obama has gone with it.
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So this guy is a deserter who joined the Taliban?
And his crazy Muslim radical dad came up with this plan with his son with a view to making a trade for the release of the 5 radicals?
Fuckin unbelievable if true :o
More unbelievable that Obama has gone with it.
Pretty much. Obama has been looking for a way to release these Taliban commanders for a while as part of his "appeasement and surrender" plan.
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Wtf 5 "high ranking officials" for 1 private first class? These Taliban must be terrific negotiators.
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Wtf 5 "high ranking officials" for 1 private first class? These Taliban must be terrific negotiators.
A PFC that deserted. As part of UCMJ (art. 85), that carries a death sentence. What are the chances that the guy will see one fucking day in Leavenworth?
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We had to give up five senior Taliban leaders held at Gitmo to get Bergdahl back.
What would you do if one of these guys got on your flight? ;D
(http://a.abcnews.com/images/International/HT_mullah_mohammad_fazl_abdul_haq_wasiq_blur_h_jt_140531_16x9_608.jpg)
I would ask if the beard is itchy.
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SGT Bowe Bergdahl. I thought this guy was dead long ago, but he just got released in a prisoner exchange. He was held for almost five years in Pakistan.
(http://www.snopes.com/politics/graphics/bergdahl.jpg)
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http://www.cbsnews.com/news/is-sgt-bowe-bergdahl-a-hero-or-a-deserter/ (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/is-sgt-bowe-bergdahl-a-hero-or-a-deserter/)
1US soldier is worth way more then all of the Taliban fighters combined. As I see it they did a great job to get him home.
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I hope this kid goes home to enjoy Getbig and KFC.
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Those taliban won't live long.
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Congress knew nothing about the exchange. Obama broke the law yet again.
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A PFC that deserted. As part of UCMJ (art. 85), that carries a death sentence. What are the chances that the guy will see one fucking day in Leavenworth?
I wouldn't be surprised if this whole thing was planned way before the boy joined up back in 2008.
Dad probably told his son to join the army, desert, pretend to be prisoner for a few years while living with his Taliban brothers and hopefully spring some brothers out of Gitmo.
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1US soldier is worth way more then all of the Taliban fighters combined. As I see it they did a great job to get him home.
Wrong. This is how hostages get taken. Let's take a page from the Soviet playbook in Beirut. You kidnap Soviet officials, the Spetsnaz tortures and kills the kidnappers families and sends the body parts to the kidnappers. Prisoners released and no more EVER taken. That's how you SOLVE the problem.
Realpolitik is often a messy business.
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Wrong. This is how hostages get taken. Let's take a page from the Soviet playbook in Beirut. You kidnap Soviet officials, the Spetsnaz tortures and kills the kidnappers families and sends the body parts to the kidnappers. Prisoners released and no more EVER taken. That's how you SOLVE the problem.
Realpolitik is often a messy business.
That's fucked up, I hope you don't truly believe that's the best way to approach things
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Congress knew nothing about the exchange. Obama broke the law yet again.
Another impeachable offence. Yes repubs won't impeach. it's getting old. They're giving him a signed permission slip to shit all over the law over and over.
Rep. Issa should be drafting legislation today to impeach, plain and simple. However, the way he let obama get away with birth cert, irs, benghazi, and fast & furious... I have to think obama will skate on this one too.
I'm glad the soldier is home - I do wonder what congress would have said about releasing 5 high level taliban. Give them 12 years of lockup in GITMO then suddenly release them - those dudes are probably highly motivated for some revenge shit :(
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That's fucked up, I hope you don't truly believe that's the best way to approach things
It's fucking messy, that's for sure. But let's do the math, if we want these guys now, it'll likely be via a drone strike on their villages. What's the collateral body count on that? Just because we aren't getting our collective hands dirty, doesn't mean that we don't do the same thing, just with less precision and less effect.
At its peak, the most effective shield for a Roman Citizen was the label "Citizen of Rome," as to bring harm on that person would bring the weight of the empire down on you and yours.
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Wrong. This is how hostages get taken. Let's take a page from the Soviet playbook in Beirut. You kidnap Soviet officials, the Spetsnaz tortures and kills the kidnappers families and sends the body parts to the kidnappers. Prisoners released and no more EVER taken. That's how you SOLVE the problem.
Realpolitik is often a messy business.
If this would have been your son or your brother, what would you prefer to be done?
I know its war but they are still humans. I cant imagine what this guy went thru or his family. 5 years in the hands of the Taliban as a US Soldier.
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If this would have been your son or your brother, what would you prefer to be done?
I know its war but they are still humans. I cant imagine what this guy went thru or his family. 5 years in the hands of the Taliban as a US Soldier.
Reminding the audience...he was a deserter that left the Army to be with the Taliban.
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There is something really fishy about this story. The Soldier studies an Arabic language while at base. He takes off from his base with a compass and maps at night without his rifle. His father has tweeted sympathy towards the Taliban that he has since deleted and he speaks an Arabic language. What soldier would walk off the base in the middle of the night into hostile territory? Why did he sent his belongings home while in the middle of a deployment? Why was he always asking questions about operations of the base that didn't concern his job? His father said his son feels more comfortable speaking in Arabic so he talked to him in an Arabic language. I think there are two possibilities. 1. He's a traitor. 2. He is mentally ill.
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Reminding the audience...he was a deserter that left the Army to be with the Taliban.
I didn't read that. :o :o For real? if that would be thru then its a different story but it doesn't make sense then. Fucking politics of Peace
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Another impeachable offence. Yes repubs won't impeach. it's getting old. They're giving him a signed permission slip to shit all over the law over and over.
Rep. Issa should be drafting legislation today to impeach, plain and simple. However, the way he let obama get away with birth cert, irs, benghazi, and fast & furious... I have to think obama will skate on this one too.
I'm glad the soldier is home - I do wonder what congress would have said about releasing 5 high level taliban. Give them 12 years of lockup in GITMO then suddenly release them - those dudes are probably highly motivated for some revenge shit :(
Beyond impeachable. It's treason. He needs to go. The repubs won't do anything for what ever reason. He needs to be taken out.....of office.
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Beyond impeachable. It's treason.
USSS notices shit like this.
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How long before the US hit the explode trigger they implanted on them before releasing them
This^^^The shit they have now many people wouldn't believe...I've read about shit that they can put in your brain that totally undetectable that can make you walk out in traffic and look like an accident. lol
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Let's see...the administration, the media and the Taliban all say these guys were "senior".
Goodrum says they were low-level. Who to believe, who to believe...
Are you doubting CNN TNN (Trailer News Network)?
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Are you doubting CNN TNN (Trailer News Network)?
I am sure that Vince's sources within the Taliban are legit. Probably just some linguistic confusion when Vince had to pose the questions in Pashto. He's a little rusty.
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woah, he was a deserter? damn.
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woah, he was a deserter? damn.
http://www.ijreview.com/2014/06/143437-american-soldier-served-bowe-bergdahl-casts-doubt-official-story-fears-reprisal-obama-administration/
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It would be cool to spend 5 years with the Taliban. They will have you in contest shape in no time. ::)
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woah, he was a deserter? damn.
He was a deserter that was open about his distain for America. He should face charges as a deserter and enemy sympathizer.
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Pretty much. Obama has been looking for a way to release these Taliban commanders for a while as part of his "appeasement and surrender" plan.
I'm telling you, Obama isn't one of us. He's s Muslim traitor. Id bet my life on it
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wider than you-know-who.
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There is something really fishy about this story. The Soldier studies an Arabic language while at base. He takes off from his base with a compass and maps at night without his rifle. His father has tweeted sympathy towards the Taliban that he has since deleted and he speaks an Arabic language. What soldier would walk off the base in the middle of the night into hostile territory?Why did he sent his belongings home while in the middle of a deployment? Why was he always asking questions about operations of the base that didn't concern his job? His father said his son feels more comfortable speaking in Arabic so he talked to him in an Arabic language. I think there are two possibilities. 1. He's a traitor. 2. He is mentally ill.
A.) A mentally unstable one like Robert Bates.
Or.
B.) One that wants to defect.
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1US soldier is worth way more then all of the Taliban fighters combined. As I see it they did a great job to get him home.
Obama can kill Osama (so he claims), but it took 5 years to get this guy out?
Yeah, great job. ::)
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I'm sure any taliban prisoner they use for exchanges are throughly, chemically lobotomized first. It wouldn't make sense to instill hatred and vengeance in people for 10 years at a black site only to release them again. That would only serve as radicalization.
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We had to give up five senior Taliban leaders held at Gitmo to get Bergdahl back.
What would you do if one of these guys got on your flight? ;D
(http://a.abcnews.com/images/International/HT_mullah_mohammad_fazl_abdul_haq_wasiq_blur_h_jt_140531_16x9_608.jpg)
'We' LOL ::)
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islam the cancer of the world
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'We' LOL ::)
Yes, "we". I was in the military for many years, so when the military does something I say "we". By the way, "LOL" is for 12 year old girls on Facebook.