Andreas Munzer

[SirTraps]

any thoughts on why he was the most shredded human ever ? just a lot of cardio, or what was he doing different ? 

       What was the official cause of his unfortunate demise anyway ?

[the shadow]

any thoughts on why he was the most shredded human ever ? just a lot of cardio, or what was he doing different ? 

       What was the official cause of his unfortunate demise anyway ?

heres the official cause of his demise....
http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/andreasmunzercocktail.html

[Mars]

He was just a roided pussy with bad genetics for mass.

[SWOLETRAIN]

I want to see the juice regimen again

[shiftedShapes]

He was just a roided pussy with bad genetics for mass.

he was actually pretty big, you mostly see solo shots of him, but take a look at some comparisons and you will see that he held up well against the bigger guys of that era

[Figo]

heres the official cause of his demise....
http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/andreasmunzercocktail.html

This "stack" is based on conjecture due to a list written down with different anabolics and dosages found at his residence subsequent to his demise.

Its a commonly used tactic by dealers to justify having high quantities of gear in their possession when bust.

[Van_Bilderass]

He was just a roided pussy with bad genetics for mass.

No, he had insane genetics for bb.

[MAXX]

didnt he die from just being extreme with diuretics?

[Mars]

Not for nothing he died, he was an idiot for taking so much stuff.

[affeman]

Not for nothing he died, he was an idiot for taking so much stuff.

You think he took more stuff than anyone else??

[spinnis]

10-9 Weeks before the Competition daily: Ephederine, AN 1, Captagon,
Aspirine, Valium, Clenbuterol

8-6 weeks before the Competition daily: 2 injects Testoviron a 250 mg
1 inject Parabolan
30 tabletts Halotestin
30 tabletts Metandienon
20 IE* STH
20 IE* Insuline

5-3 weeks before the Competition daily: 3 injects Masteron
2 injects Parabolan
30 tabletts Halotestin
50 tabletts Stromba
2 injects Stromba
24 IE* STH

2-1 weeks before the Competition daily: 2 injects Masteron
2 injects Stromba
40 tabletts Halotestin
80 tabletts Stromba
24 IE* STH
Insuline
IGF

A few days before the Competition: Aldactone, Lasik

[JackIt]

I think this is total bs! think about the costs of that much juice ^^
The gh alone ,24 uis a day?

I'd like to hear gh15's opinion about this "pro-stack"...

[Dave Czech]

shit It wasn't bodybuilder but narcomaniac ; ??

[CARTEL]

I think this is total bs! think about the costs of that much juice ^^
The gh alone ,24 uis a day?

I'd like to hear gh15's opinion about this "pro-stack"...

gh15 will answer your PM. But remember to ask him to keep your name out of his response.

[Weez]

didnt he die from just being extreme with diuretics?

Not at all. It was the EPO. His hemocrit level was high, and got even higher (in fact fatally higher), when he travelled in a commercial airliner. He was as they say, "dead man walking", when he "unboarded" the jet. His blood was so thick, and "clotty", that it shut down his organs one by one. RIP..........

[webcake]

10-9 Weeks before the Competition daily: Ephederine, AN 1, Captagon,
Aspirine, Valium, Clenbuterol

8-6 weeks before the Competition daily: 2 injects Testoviron a 250 mg
1 inject Parabolan
30 tabletts Halotestin
30 tabletts Metandienon
20 IE* STH
20 IE* Insuline

5-3 weeks before the Competition daily: 3 injects Masteron
2 injects Parabolan
30 tabletts Halotestin
50 tabletts Stromba
2 injects Stromba
24 IE* STH

2-1 weeks before the Competition daily: 2 injects Masteron
2 injects Stromba
40 tabletts Halotestin
80 tabletts Stromba
24 IE* STH
Insuline
IGF

A few days before the Competition: Aldactone, Lasik

If thats true then its no wonder he died, that must have cost him heaps (ultimately it turned out to be his life ) What did he place in the end or did he die before the show finished?

[MAXX]

Not at all. It was the EPO. His hemocrit level was high, and got even higher (in fact fatally higher), when he travelled in a commercial airliner. He was as they say, "dead man walking", when he "unboarded" the jet. His blood was so thick, and "clotty", that it shut down his organs one by one. RIP..........

how the hell does EPO help a bodybuilder?

i thought only endurance athletes used that.

[will938]

I think that cycle is exactly what someone said earlier, it was just his way of justifying having so much gear in the house, there is no way he was on that much stuff!!

[the shadow]

If thats true then its no wonder he died, that must have cost him heaps (ultimately it turned out to be his life ) What did he place in the end or did he die before the show finished?

munzer placed 6th at the arnold 1996..10 days after this show he died of a liver failure

[karasan]

he was actually pretty big, you mostly see solo shots of him, but take a look at some comparisons and you will see that he held up well against the bigger guys of that era

He had good genetics for building ripped mass, he had very very good legs, esspecially quads, and again great triceps.
He was absolutely gifted musclewise, but on the other hand, he had a crap skeleton structure.
He had narrow shoulders and a wide waist. Thats why he could never manage to have a decent taper.
That also goes for Tom Platz, he had narrow shoulders and wide waist...
but when I compare Platz with Münzer, latter had much better muscle structure...

[Mars]

If he was so gifted. why would he need that much stuff for?

[karasan]

If he was so gifted. why would he need that much stuff for?

Why he used sooo much juice?
Coz he was not sane.
I guess he didn't know the "diminishing returns" factor, nor did he know about risk to benefit factor...
Do you think he needed to take so many drugs to make the gains he made.
He would gained nearly same amount of quality muscle mass with 20 percent of juice he used.
You don't need to be a drug maniac to be ripped, ultra ripped Hamdullah Aykutlug used to be my neighbour, he doesn't do crazy things to be a walking anatomy chart (he just used to smoke pot to control his apetite and to get a dry look on his skin 
You can't build Münzer type quads with all the juice in the world.
If you don't have full muscle bellies and his kind of quadriceps, all the juice in the world can't help...
I didn't say he had the best genetics in the world, skeletal structurewise he was doomed, but he had nice muscle shape and size potential...

[MisterMagoo]

he didn't take all that, the guy was a dealer but kept that written on a slip of paper with him so he could claim all the shit he had in his possession was for personal use. the man undoubtedly loved his diuretics and from what i've heard didn't know the meaning of "cheat meal", but if you believe he actually took all that you're as gullible as any police who would have snagged him.

[honest]

the main drug that caused his demise was Cytandren or aminogluthemide, he died from internal bleeding and organ failure that was a direct consequence of his overuse of that drug in particular, as for the stack , doesnt make sense, theres no way he was on 24ius of hgh the week of the show and managed to get to his level of conditioning, even with diuretics you wont drop that amount of water quick enough, and you wouldnt use parabolan that far out and drop it, you would use it the last few weeks only, and stanozyl both injectable and oral at the same time, i dont think so, maybe injectable a few weeks out and then tabs all the way up after dropping the shots, just another internet rumour.

[affy]

the main drug that caused his demise was Cytandren or aminogluthemide, he died from internal bleeding and organ failure that was a direct consequence of his overuse of that drug in particular, as for the stack , doesnt make sense, theres no way he was on 24ius of hgh the week of the show and managed to get to his level of conditioning, even with diuretics you wont drop that amount of water quick enough, and you wouldnt use parabolan that far out and drop it, you would use it the last few weeks only, and stanozyl both injectable and oral at the same time, i dont think so, maybe injectable a few weeks out and then tabs all the way up after dropping the shots, just another internet rumour.

lmao what about the 40 tablets of Halo...wtf???