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Re: Congratulations George W Bush!!!
« Reply #50 on: March 26, 2009, 08:07:07 AM »
US has certainly interfered too much in some instances (Iraq, Vietnam, etc).  Also, blatantly pro-Israel, which I understand to a point.  I guess its tough to balance promoting freedom, human rights and democracy vs interfering in other countries. affairs.  Plus, helping to monitor the world for terrorists that want to destroy a western way of life.  IMO, in general, we should be promoting these ideas without military involvement unless absolutely necessary (Iraq was not absolutely necessary and cost us greatly!)

We should be leaving people and nations alone to make their own decisions. There are enough problems in the US that need to be addressed. And can you name me a single instance in the last few decades when we have intervened for the sake of human rights, freedom and democracy?
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Re: Congratulations George W Bush!!!
« Reply #51 on: March 26, 2009, 08:30:49 AM »
I back it up with facts.

http://www.amconmag.com/article/2005/jul/18/00017/

Except for the death squads and a few suicide bombers

http://www.bwanet.org/default.aspx?pid=693
Suicide bomber attacks Baptist church killing six children

A Baptist church in Sudan was attacked by a suicide bomber on September 27, killing five children instantly, while another child died later at a hospital.

 

The church, located in the town of Khorfullus in the Upper Nile region in Southern Sudan, was attacked during an evening worship service.

 

At least four worshippers were injured, including the pastor, John Monykuer Wuor. They were taken to the Malakal Hospital where one of the hospitalized children succumbed to his injuries two days later.  At least three of the others remain in critical condition.

 

According to Saphano Riak Chol, executive secretary of Faith Evangelical Baptist Church in Sudan, “The suicide bomber was in full army uniform,” but at the time of reporting, his motive could not be ascertained.

 

Chol, who alerted the Baptist World Alliance of the incident, declared that “We in the leadership condemn this act of wickedness in the strongest terms possible,” and asserted that the incident was an attempt to “Suppress the church.”

 

Southern Sudan, mostly Christian and ethnically African, as against the mainly Muslim north which is largely Arab, has seen more than two decades of ethnic cleansing that has left an estimated two million people dead and more than four million displaced.

http://www.jamestown.org/programs/gta/single/?tx_ttnews[tt_news]=942&tx_ttnews[backPid]=239&no_cache=1
JORDANIAN FORCES STEP UP IRAQI BORDER SECURITY

 

Jordan has increased its security measures on the Iraqi border in order to prevent car bombs and other threatening material from entering the kingdom. These steps come after the October 9 car bombing at the Iraqi al-Qadisiyah border post, which wounded six Iraqi border police (Daily Star, October 10). According to an article in Asharq al-Awsat on October 14, the car bomb was driven by a Sudanese suicide bomber who had his hands "shackled to the steering wheel with iron chains." As part of the new security measures, Jordanian and Iraqi security services will set up sand barriers and other prevention techniques in order to thwart future attacks on the border area and prevent the penetration of Jordanian territory. Furthermore, after the incident, Jordanian security forces searched the eastern gate of the border on the Iraqi side; they removed some 12 tons of military waste and 70 "serviceable missiles" (Asharq al-Awsat, October 14). In November 2005, al-Qaeda in Iraq sent operatives across the Jordanian border to execute coordinated suicide bomb attacks against hotel targets in Amman.
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Re: Congratulations George W Bush!!!
« Reply #52 on: March 26, 2009, 08:46:21 AM »
Except for the death squads and a few suicide bombers

http://www.bwanet.org/default.aspx?pid=693
Suicide bomber attacks Baptist church killing six children

A Baptist church in Sudan was attacked by a suicide bomber on September 27, killing five children instantly, while another child died later at a hospital.

 

The church, located in the town of Khorfullus in the Upper Nile region in Southern Sudan, was attacked during an evening worship service.

 

At least four worshippers were injured, including the pastor, John Monykuer Wuor. They were taken to the Malakal Hospital where one of the hospitalized children succumbed to his injuries two days later.  At least three of the others remain in critical condition.

 

According to Saphano Riak Chol, executive secretary of Faith Evangelical Baptist Church in Sudan, “The suicide bomber was in full army uniform,” but at the time of reporting, his motive could not be ascertained.

 

Chol, who alerted the Baptist World Alliance of the incident, declared that “We in the leadership condemn this act of wickedness in the strongest terms possible,” and asserted that the incident was an attempt to “Suppress the church.”

 

Southern Sudan, mostly Christian and ethnically African, as against the mainly Muslim north which is largely Arab, has seen more than two decades of ethnic cleansing that has left an estimated two million people dead and more than four million displaced.

http://www.jamestown.org/programs/gta/single/?tx_ttnews[tt_news]=942&tx_ttnews[backPid]=239&no_cache=1
JORDANIAN FORCES STEP UP IRAQI BORDER SECURITY

 

Jordan has increased its security measures on the Iraqi border in order to prevent car bombs and other threatening material from entering the kingdom. These steps come after the October 9 car bombing at the Iraqi al-Qadisiyah border post, which wounded six Iraqi border police (Daily Star, October 10). According to an article in Asharq al-Awsat on October 14, the car bomb was driven by a Sudanese suicide bomber who had his hands "shackled to the steering wheel with iron chains." As part of the new security measures, Jordanian and Iraqi security services will set up sand barriers and other prevention techniques in order to thwart future attacks on the border area and prevent the penetration of Jordanian territory. Furthermore, after the incident, Jordanian security forces searched the eastern gate of the border on the Iraqi side; they removed some 12 tons of military waste and 70 "serviceable missiles" (Asharq al-Awsat, October 14). In November 2005, al-Qaeda in Iraq sent operatives across the Jordanian border to execute coordinated suicide bomb attacks against hotel targets in Amman.

None of which refutes my point that the West should leave the Islamic world to rot in its medievalism.
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Re: Congratulations George W Bush!!!
« Reply #53 on: March 26, 2009, 10:02:56 AM »
We should be leaving people and nations alone to make their own decisions. There are enough problems in the US that need to be addressed. And can you name me a single instance in the last few decades when we have intervened for the sake of human rights, freedom and democracy?


Uh...Kuwait...Bosnia...a myriad of small missions in Africa...Afghanistan...K osovo.....ur kidding right. Just because these things further our own interests, does not lessen the impact of what they've done for the average citizen of those countries.
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Re: Congratulations George W Bush!!!
« Reply #54 on: March 26, 2009, 11:51:39 AM »
 ::) I wish there was a better eye roll- your comment deserves about 50 of these.

You should either throw yourself off the nearest 100 foot ledge or should be banned from posting here for 5 years for such a moronic statement. 

Do you consider genocide committed by the Islamic Dictatorship comparable to terrorism? OR is the fact that the International Justice Court has charged Sudan's leader with crimes against humanity an accident?

How about the fact that Bin Laden operated from the Sudan for several years and still has ties to the area?

Raping, Starving and murdering your own countrymen? Terrorism? Of course not. Its just Muslims being neighborly!