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I think religion is BS, but it seems that over time, the greatest leaders, the kings, queens and the elite rich of today are all die hard religious nuts. Did religion have a role in their power and success? it seems that almost every super rich non jew person is a big church goer. The same over history. what gives?
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people are stupid
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I think religion is BS, but it seems that over time, the greatest leaders, the kings, queens and the elite rich of today are all die hard religious nuts. Did religion have a role in their power and success? it seems that almost every super rich non jew person is a big church goer. The same over history. what gives?
It is great way to control the masses. If you can control how people think, you control how they act .
Most religions cause people to feel guilty over sexy aka lustful thoughts.
If you can make someone feel guilty over their own natural , normal thoughts, you start to control how they think.
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Decent people should try and act like they believe. My grandpa use to sit through that shit every Sunday. Simply because that's what good people do.
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It is great way to control the masses. If you can control how people think, you control how they act .
Most religions cause people to feel guilty over sexy aka lustful thoughts.
If you can make someone feel guilty over their own natural , normal thoughts, you start to control how they think.
this
religion is a tool used to repress people
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I think religion is BS, but it seems that over time, the greatest leaders, the kings, queens and the elite rich of today are all die hard religious nuts. Did religion have a role in their power and success? it seems that almost every super rich non jew person is a big church goer. The same over history. what gives?
Most of those people just want to be seen in the church. Especially if they are out there selling shit with their name on it.
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heres the best example: vladimir putin, all his life he was some stout communist, even the bigboss of the kgb, all his career was made there, the communists werent going easy on religion in the soviet union.
and now, he goes to church.
go figure.
Good point, it's almost comical. ;D
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yes that slag Merkel....
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I'm religious but I would warn anybody from official affiliation with a religion unless it serves strategic purposes.
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I'm religious but I would warn anybody from official affiliation with a religion unless it serves strategic purposes.
getting paid and or getting pussy...the "churrrrch" is filled with tons of hot chicks praying for god to send them a man.
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the irony, CDU stands for christ demokratische union, her party.
this communist profiteer is now christian and a democrat.
this is the kind of people who wouldve been in hitlers party too, only if the time was right
A lot of folks claim Christ and do nothing to represent him.
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the irony, CDU stands for christ demokratische union, her party.
this communist profiteer is now christian and a democrat.
this is the kind of people who wouldve been in hitlers party too, only if the time was right
Mate..if you go against them you get "worked on". I was with a couple of people in "verwaltungsgericht Lüneburg" about 6 weeks ago and the Judge was really giving me dirty looks because we help people fight against the Nazi Authorities here. It´s so corrupt that the Courts work with these CDU Bastards. I am well known by them...lol
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A lot of folks claim Christ and do nothing to represent him.
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I think religion is BS, but it seems that over time, the greatest leaders, the kings, queens and the elite rich of today are all die hard religious nuts. Did religion have a role in their power and success? it seems that almost every super rich non jew person is a big church goer. The same over history. what gives?
King Louis XVI of France was a staunch catholic. The revolutionaries tried to get him to renounce his faith, and he would not. It played a major role in his eventual death - beheaded by the revolutionaries. Had he publicly renounced his faith they would have gone easier on him and probably let him live.
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nah no way they wouldve let him live.no way.
he was hoping for help from rome, his base of power was founded on that
Well I am basing that on the two most respected books on the French revolution.
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jesse ventura said it best; "religion is for the weak minded".
religion is often times confused with faith. it is better to have faith than follow a religion.
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I think powerful people will do/say anything to achieve their goals.
It follows that if "religion is the opiate of the masses" and that a majority of people believe in one religion or the other...
..and you are trying to acheive power and/or wealth over these masses...
Then doesn't it make sense that one would profess to follow a certain religion in order to be accepted by the masses?
In short, I think powerful people say they are religious in order to get votes.
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people talk about the masons, iluminati etc...all religious groups. Most of the brits and french royalty had true blind faith. I don't get it but they all seem to be staunch believers of God and all have success. Almost all the Rich and Super poor are very religious and everyone in between are like Meh???
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That is easy to answer...
The powerful know they need to embrace religion to control the masses. Period. They may or may not believe it themselves but they all know it is a tool.
Look at it this way. Take Islam... Suicide bombers every day, but the higher ups don't do it even they say it is the path to heaven and virgins. It is simply a tool to control the dopes.
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I've never been a big fan of organized religion.
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Might Start my own Sekt...be a Fucking Guru... a god. THE PANTY SEKT...
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Absolute brilliance can be found in a religious message, and such messages cannot be delivered in any other way.
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Might Start my own Sekt...be a Fucking Guru... a god. THE PANTY SEKT...
Donny, you always struck me as the kinda guy that liked to wear panties.
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well I like the feel against my little pecker. I remember a woman did ask me to wear her stockings and fuck her ..I never wore them. Might have been a new experience.. ;D
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well I like the feel against my little pecker. I remember a woman did ask me to wear her stockings and fuck her ..I never wore them. Might have been a new experience.. ;D
AHHHAHAHAAHAH!!! Alright, the "little pecker" comment made me laugh.
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Yes my secrets out.....LOL
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I think religion is BS, but it seems that over time, the greatest leaders, the kings, queens and the elite rich of today are all die hard religious nuts. Did religion have a role in their power and success? it seems that almost every super rich non jew person is a big church goer. The same over history. what gives?
POWERFUL PEOPLE DO NOT BELIEVE IN RELIGION !!!
POWERFUL PEOPLE USE RELIGION TO CONTROL THE MASSES !!!
THE USE OF RELIGION BY THE POWERFUL PEOPLE IS THE REASON FOR THE WORST CRIME IN HUMAN HISTORY (WAR AND GENOCIDE ) !!!
ONLY STUPID AND RETARDED PEOPLE ARE FANATIC RELIGIOUS NUTS, READY TO KILL AND DIE IN THE NAME OF A GOD WHO IRONICALLY DESPISE WAR AND GENOCIDE AND TALK ABOUT FRATERNITY AND LOVE BETWEEN HUMANS !!!
THE PROBLEM IS NOT RELIGION !!!
THE PROBLEM ARE NOT THE POWERFUL PEOPLE THAT USE RELIGION TO STIR WAR AND GENOCIDE !!!
THE PROBLEM ARE THE STUPID MASSES,BRAINLESS SHEEPS THAT DO NOT UNDERSTAND THE REAL MESSAGE OF RELIGION AND ARE READY TO KILL AND GET KILLED BECAUSE THE POWERFUL PEOPLE TOLD THEM TO KILL !!!
FUCK YOU BRAILESS RELIGIOUS NUTS , I HOPE ALL OF YOU DIE SOON AND BURN IN THE SAME HELL YOU THOUGHT YOU WOULD AVOID WHEN YOU KILLED IN THE NAME OF A GOD WHO ONLY WANT LOVE BETWEEN HUMANS !!! >:(
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The richest men in the World do not believe in such nonsense, nor do Scientists. They are the most powerful people in the world.
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The richest men in the World do not believe in such nonsense, nor do Scientists. They are the most powerful people in the world.
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Carlos Slim Helú is a Christian.[6]
Bill Gates is an agnostic.[7][8]
Warren Buffett is an agnostic.[9][10]
Lakshmi Mittal is a Hindu.[11]
Mukesh Ambani is a Hindu.[12]
Amancio Ortega is a Christian.[13]
Bernard Arnault is a Christian.[14]
Mark Zuckerberg is an atheist.[15]
I'm talking about Power as well, not just wealth. Just look at who runs this country or almost any country in the world. But also look back at all of the monarchies that rules Europe over the last 1000 years.
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Control
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The richest men in the World do not believe in such nonsense, nor do Scientists. They are the most powerful people in the world.
I think you have been watching too much spiderman where where the mad scientist is trying to run the world.
Come back to reality, in the real world scientist don't run the show, lmao. You have no clue what you are talking about anyhow. Cause most powerful people, freemasons and such in fact are part of satanic groups and obviously if they believe in Satan they believe in God.
Ask your wife's parents, they are freemasons and devil worshippers. All satanic cult members name their daughters either Jezebel and Delilah and your wife I believe is named both, correct?
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POWERFUL PEOPLE DO NOT BELIEVE IN RELIGION !!!
POWERFUL PEOPLE USE RELIGION TO CONTROL THE MASSES !!!
THE USE OF RELIGION BY THE POWERFUL PEOPLE IS THE REASON FOR THE WORST CRIME IN HUMAN HISTORY (WAR AND GENOCIDE ) !!!
ONLY STUPID AND RETARDED PEOPLE ARE FANATIC RELIGIOUS NUTS, READY TO KILL AND DIE IN THE NAME OF A GOD WHO IRONICALLY DESPISE WAR AND GENOCIDE AND TALK ABOUT FRATERNITY AND LOVE BETWEEN HUMANS !!!
THE PROBLEM IS NOT RELIGION !!!
THE PROBLEM ARE NOT THE POWERFUL PEOPLE THAT USE RELIGION TO STIR WAR AND GENOCIDE !!!
THE PROBLEM ARE THE STUPID MASSES,BRAINLESS SHEEPS THAT DO NOT UNDERSTAND THE REAL MESSAGE OF RELIGION AND ARE READY TO KILL AND GET KILLED BECAUSE THE POWERFUL PEOPLE TOLD THEM TO KILL !!!
FUCK YOU BRAILESS RELIGIOUS NUTS , I HOPE ALL OF YOU DIE SOON AND BURN IN THE SAME HELL YOU THOUGHT YOU WOULD AVOID WHEN YOU KILLED IN THE NAME OF A GOD WHO ONLY WANT LOVE BETWEEN HUMANS !!! >:(
Well put. Fuck religion.
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http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/26/opinion/krauss-grief-faith/index.html?hpt=hp_t2
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Why must it be a natural expectation that any such national tragedy will be accompanied by prayers, including from the president, to at least one version of the very God, who apparently in his infinite wisdom, decided to call 20 children between the age of 6 and 7 home by having them slaughtered by a deranged gunman in a school, that one hopes should have been a place or nourishment, warmth and growth?
We are told the Lord works in mysterious ways but, for many people, to suggest there might be an intelligent deity who could rationally act in such a fashion and that that deity is worth praying to and thanking for "calling them home" seems beyond the pale.
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It is great way to control the masses. If you can control how people think, you control how they act .
Most religions cause people to feel guilty over sexy aka lustful thoughts.
If you can make someone feel guilty over their own natural , normal thoughts, you start to control how they think.
lol the moron has spoken.
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“Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones.”
― Marcus Aurelius
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There are many people out there that believe Jesus is the Devil in disguise. And tha's the greatest deception all of time.
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They got big rewards for being so true to the faith. Obviously.
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There are many people out there that believe Jesus is the Devil in disguise. And tha's the greatest deception all of time.
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Jesus is the devil? What does that make muhammed whose followers are raising hell throughout the globe?
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Its just another way to network for some. Hence the great numbers of hypocrites in various religious circles
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meh
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HOLY BLACK MOSES !
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Maybe they're trying to compensate.
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Jesus is the devil? What does that make muhammed whose followers are raising hell throughout the globe?
wow looks like Muslims own real estate in your little mind huh?
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most of the elite are psychopaths with extremist totalitarian views and since their emotions are highly lacking, they get something more out of religion than mere 'sentient' humans. both psychopaths and religious nuts are a different kind of person with more extreme ways of thinking than normal people. just my opinion
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Moses was not black.
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A lot of folks claim Christ and do nothing to represent him.
a lot of them probably say the same about you
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The smart people never seem to believe in GOD, Einstein, Stephen Hawking, Edison, Freud and Alfred Nobel, their are always exceptions, but the smarter you are, the less likely you are to believe in GOD!
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E Kul what about people who either try to or do experience God/Ground of Being through meditation are they lacking in intelligence?
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maybe they pretend to get sympathy points from the masses
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I think religion is BS, but it seems that over time, the greatest leaders, the kings, queens and the elite rich of today are all die hard religious nuts. Did religion have a role in their power and success? it seems that almost every super rich non jew person is a big church goer. The same over history. what gives?
Because their followers believe.
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E Kul what about people who either try to or do experience God/Ground of Being through meditation are they lacking in intelligence?
It's called the power of Imagination, you can imagine all kinds of states by just using your imagination, just look at the way we lie to the kiddies about Santa Claus, because the kiddies are so trusting, they generate all types of wonderful states based on this lie, I have even met kids who are convinced that SANTA is real and that they have seen and talked to him (and will tell you wonderful tales about these encounters). People want GOD to be real so badly, they will generate a state that to them feels like a divine experience. If I said to you that during meditation I had an experience of a parallel universe where penguins were the dominant species, you would say I was crazy, but because people suggest they have experienced GOD, something that can never be validated, they somehow think that is a completely rational story.
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I think religion is BS, but it seems that over time, the greatest leaders, the kings, queens and the elite rich of today are all die hard religious nuts. Did religion have a role in their power and success? it seems that almost every super rich non jew person is a big church goer. The same over history. what gives?
Hitler was a Christian
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Moses was not black.
I don't know.... he spent 40 years in the dessert.. ;D
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Hitler was a Christian
He may have labled himself as one but he was definitely not a Christian
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He may have labled himself as one but he was definitely not a Christian
Does it matter?
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Does it matter?
From a theologians point of view, yes. From yours, probably not
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The richest men in the World do not believe in such nonsense, nor do Scientists. They are the most powerful people in the world.
Some studies have found correlations between wealth and lack of religious beliefs. The GDP of countries generally correlates negatively with their religiosity, i.e. the less religious a population is the wealthier it is
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/70/RELIGIONvsGDPperCapita.png)
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Hitler was a Christian
He may have labled himself as one but he was definitely not a Christian
"Hitler did well in monastery school. He sang in the choir, found High Mass and other ceremonies intoxicating, and idolized priests. Impressed by their power, he at one time considered entering the priesthood."
Quotes from HITLER
"Who says I am not under the special protection of God?
"I believe today that my conduct is in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator." Hitler, Mein Kampf, p. 46
"What we have to fight for . . . is the freedom and independence of the fatherland, so that our people may be enabled to fulfill the mission assigned to it by the Creator." Hitler, _Mein Kampf_, pp. 125
"The national (Nazi) government will maintain and defend the foundations on which the power of our nation rests. It will offer strong protection to Christianity as the very basis of our collective morality. Today Christians stand at the head of our country. . . . I pledge that I never will tie myself to parties who want to destroy Christianity . . .We want to fill our culture again with the Christian spirit. We want to burn out all the recent immoral developments in literature, in the theatre, and in the press-in short, we want to burn out the poison of immorality which has entered into our whole life and culture as a result of liberal excess during recent years."
- Hitler ( a Radio Broadcast July 22, 1933; from My New Order. ) (The Speeches of Adolf Hitler, 1922-1939, Vol. 1. pp. 871-872, Oxford University Press,London, 1942)
"This human world of ours would be inconceivable without the practical existence of a religious belief."
Hitler, Mein Kampf, pp.152]
"I had an excellent opportunity to intoxicate myself with the solemn splendor of the brilliant church festivals. As was only natural, the abbot seemed to me, as the village priest had once seemed to my father, the highest and most desirable ideal."
Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 1
"Even today I am not ashamed to say that, overpowered by stormy enthusiasm, I fell down on my knees and thanked Heaven from an overflowing heart for granting me the good fortune of being permitted to live at this time."
Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 5
"I say: my feeling as a Christian points me to my Lord and Saviour as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to the fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as sufferer but as fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and of adders. How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison. Today, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before—the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice. And as a man I have the duty to see to it that human society does not suffer the same catastrophic collapse as did the civilization of the ancient world some two thousand years ago—a civilization which was driven to its ruin through this same Jewish people."
Hitler, Munich speech of April 12, 1922
"in reference to the Jews - "The task which Christ began but did not finish, I will complete. " - Hitler 1926
(http://liberalslikechrist.org/Catholic/posters/NaziSupportofChristianity.JPG)
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I think religion is BS, but it seems that over time, the greatest leaders, the kings, queens and the elite rich of today are all die hard religious nuts. Did religion have a role in their power and success? it seems that almost every super rich non jew person is a big church goer. The same over history. what gives?
religion is a tool of manipulation and mass control
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a lot of them probably say the same about you
They did in my past for sure....you can review my old post history to see I wasn't living for anyone other than myself. The transforming power of the Holy Spirit in my present has been awesome....it's changed my life. I look upon my past mistakes with regret, but I am so thankful for the present and future.
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"Hitler did well in monastery school. He sang in the choir, found High Mass and other ceremonies intoxicating, and idolized priests. Impressed by their power, he at one time considered entering the priesthood."
Quotes from HITLER
"Who says I am not under the special protection of God?
"I believe today that my conduct is in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator." Hitler, Mein Kampf, p. 46
"What we have to fight for . . . is the freedom and independence of the fatherland, so that our people may be enabled to fulfill the mission assigned to it by the Creator." Hitler, _Mein Kampf_, pp. 125
"The national (Nazi) government will maintain and defend the foundations on which the power of our nation rests. It will offer strong protection to Christianity as the very basis of our collective morality. Today Christians stand at the head of our country. . . . I pledge that I never will tie myself to parties who want to destroy Christianity . . .We want to fill our culture again with the Christian spirit. We want to burn out all the recent immoral developments in literature, in the theatre, and in the press-in short, we want to burn out the poison of immorality which has entered into our whole life and culture as a result of liberal excess during recent years."
- Hitler ( a Radio Broadcast July 22, 1933; from My New Order. ) (The Speeches of Adolf Hitler, 1922-1939, Vol. 1. pp. 871-872, Oxford University Press,London, 1942)
"This human world of ours would be inconceivable without the practical existence of a religious belief."
Hitler, Mein Kampf, pp.152]
"I had an excellent opportunity to intoxicate myself with the solemn splendor of the brilliant church festivals. As was only natural, the abbot seemed to me, as the village priest had once seemed to my father, the highest and most desirable ideal."
Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 1
"Even today I am not ashamed to say that, overpowered by stormy enthusiasm, I fell down on my knees and thanked Heaven from an overflowing heart for granting me the good fortune of being permitted to live at this time."
Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 5
"I say: my feeling as a Christian points me to my Lord and Saviour as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to the fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as sufferer but as fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and of adders. How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison. Today, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before—the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice. And as a man I have the duty to see to it that human society does not suffer the same catastrophic collapse as did the civilization of the ancient world some two thousand years ago—a civilization which was driven to its ruin through this same Jewish people."
Hitler, Munich speech of April 12, 1922
"in reference to the Jews - "The task which Christ began but did not finish, I will complete. " - Hitler 1926
(http://liberalslikechrist.org/Catholic/posters/NaziSupportofChristianity.JPG)
2 Corinthians 11:12-14
12 And I will keep on doing what I am doing in order to cut the ground from under those who want an opportunity to be considered equal with us in the things they boast about. 13 For such people are false apostles, deceitful workers, masquerading as apostles of Christ. 14 And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light.
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Some studies have found correlations between wealth and lack of religious beliefs. The GDP of countries generally correlates negatively with their religiosity, i.e. the less religious a population is the wealthier it is
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/70/RELIGIONvsGDPperCapita.png)
Matthew 19:24
24 Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God.”
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people will use anything at their disposal to gain more power..Religion is very very powerful tool
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people will use anything at their disposal to gain more power..Religion is very very powerful tool
deceit and manipulation used through this religion thing, classic tools of psychopathy.
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Powerful people use religion as a tool. Always have. Politicians gain power through religion and couldn't keep it if they suddenly revealed that they were atheists. In America you can't get elected as an Atheist.
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The smart people never seem to believe in GOD, Einstein, Stephen Hawking, Edison, Freud and Alfred Nobel, their are always exceptions, but the smarter you are, the less likely you are to believe in GOD!
I think it would be hard to be so scientific in your thoughts and also believe in GOD. It would be like believing the world is round but also flat at the same time.
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more important is.. are we alone in our universe.
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Hitler was a Christian
Do you think Hitler was a Christian?
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It amazes me how many times I speak of the Holy Spirit and how awesome and transforming and tangible and real the presence of God is in the lives of believers (not nonbelievers....believer s); yet, no steps whatsoever are taken to claim that evidence and claim that relationship with Christ by staunch unbelievers. Just more handwaving and memes and zero accountability for sin or proactivity to experience and become the evidence so casually dismissed. Christ is right there waiting for you to come into his presence; yes, there is a bit effort required on the part of everyone. All we have to do is honestly seek him and desire to know him and recognize his sacrifice for you on Calvary's cross and then you too can experience the indwelling power of the Holy Spirit in your own life.
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It amazes me how many times I speak of the Holy Spirit and how awesome and transforming and tangible and real the presence of God is in the lives of believers (not nonbelievers....believer s); yet, no steps whatsoever are taken to claim that evidence and claim that relationship with Christ by staunch unbelievers. Just more handwaving and memes and zero accountability for sin or proactivity to experience and become the evidence so casually dismissed. Christ is right there waiting for you to come into his presence; yes, there is a bit effort required on the part of everyone. All we have to do is honestly seek him and desire to know him and recognize his sacrifice for you on Calvary's cross and then you too can experience the indwelling power of the Holy Spirit in your own life.
No Thanks!
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No Thanks!
I genuinely hope that at some point you get the opportunity to experience Christ in a truly, personal way. I don't have anything else to proactively share with you at this point, but I'll always be willing to speak further if you desire.
God Bless!
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I genuinely hope that at some point you get the opportunity to experience Christ in a truly, personal way. I don't have anything else to proactively share with you at this point, but I'll always be willing to speak further if you desire.
God Bless!
Even if Christ showed up, I would tell him to go FUCK HIMSELF, being the SON of the most famous sociopathic SADIST the world has ever known isn't the type of person I want to be associated with. So far, I've done just fine without him. Face it dude, your just another indoctrinated idiot who would crumble to bits to let go off your fairy tales, only truly strong individuals can survive without the assistance of a GOD. My hope for you is that one day you realise, that whoever created you gave you all the essential tools you need to live a satisfactory life without ever having to rely or depend on anything external to you. You can survive without clinging to GOD, such illusions may COMFORT you like a pacifier does a child, but it is possible to EVOLVE beyond pacification and become a mature Strong Independent Adult, unfortunately, this can never happen the whole time you rely on your pacifier.
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Even if Christ showed up, I would tell him to go FUCK HIMSELF, being the SON of the most famous sociopathic SADIST the world has ever known isn't the type of person I want to be associated with. So far, I've done just fine without him. Face it dude, your just another indoctrinated idiot who would crumble to bits to let go off your fairy tales, only truly strong individuals can survive without the assistance of a GOD. My hope for you is that one day you realise, that whoever created you gave you all the essential tools you need to live a satisfactory life without ever having to rely or depend on anything external to you. You can survive without clinging to GOD, such illusions may COMFORT you like a pacifier does a child, but it is possible to EVOLVE beyond pacification and become a mature Strong Independent Adult, unfortunately, this can never happen the whole time you rely on your pacifier.
Parse your voluminous thought into well-ordered paragraphs and see some of the fiery hate for you subside. Nobody wants to plow through the Iliad modified to adhere to the "clusterfuck" typographical form just to glean a minor point or two.
Most of the board will still be pissed at you because of the content of your posts, but at least with a revised format they will actually be reading it for the first time.
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Parse your voluminous thought into well-ordered paragraphs and see some of the fiery hate for you subside. Nobody wants to plow through the Iliad modified to adhere to the "clusterfuck" typographical form just to glean a minor point or two.
Most of the board will still be pissed at you because of the content of your posts, but at least with a revised format they will actually be reading it for the first time.
So what your saying is, keep it simple and that Getbiggers are retards who can't read a large paragraph.
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I think e-kul needs a time out from this section. He absolutely contributes nothing to anyone except outright hatred and demeanor to both christians and muslims.
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Even if Christ showed up, I would tell him to go FUCK HIMSELF, being the SON of the most famous sociopathic SADIST the world has ever known isn't the type of person I want to be associated with. So far, I've done just fine without him. Face it dude, your just another indoctrinated idiot who would crumble to bits to let go off your fairy tales, only truly strong individuals can survive without the assistance of a GOD. My hope for you is that one day you realise, that whoever created you gave you all the essential tools you need to live a satisfactory life without ever having to rely or depend on anything external to you. You can survive without clinging to GOD, such illusions may COMFORT you like a pacifier does a child, but it is possible to EVOLVE beyond pacification and become a mature Strong Independent Adult, unfortunately, this can never happen the whole time you rely on your pacifier.
Wow, that came outta leftfield. I am genuinely sorry you feel that way.
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So what your saying is, keep it simple and that Getbiggers are retards who can't read a large paragraph.
More paragraphs and spaces.
Usually it would be fine but on Getbig....
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Wow, that came outta leftfield. I am genuinely sorry you feel that way.
Have you ever considered God prefers atheists? Why do you think Religious zealots are called God BOTHERERS! it's because GOD wants you to leave him the fuck alone, in his mind, he believes he has given you all the tools you will ever need to get through life, and what the fuck do you do, you constantly bombard him with prayers and whiny complaints and petty problems, if anything, he would see the way you live you life constantly rattling on about GOD and his power and the need to pray as being selfish, I am sure he is thinking "Just get the fuck on with it, and forget about me, you pathetic, weak, whiny piece of shit"
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I think e-kul needs a time out from this section. He absolutely contributes nothing to anyone except outright hatred and demeanor to both christians and muslims.
HA HA A Mad Muslim defending Christians! A_Ahmed, please list in descending order the level of hate you have for non-muslims, is it something like this
All Women
Atheists
Agnostics
Christians,
Catholics,
Jews,
Buddhists
Hindus
All other faiths
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I feel sorry for you.
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Hitler was a Christian
Hitler was an anti christian.
Born into the tradition, rejected the tradition. Killed thousands of catholic priests.
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::) Why do you think Religious zealots are called God BOTHERERS! it's because GOD wants you to leave him the fuck alone, in his mind, he believes he has given you all the tools you will ever need to get through life, and what the fuck do you do, you constantly bombard him with prayers and whiny complaints and petty problems, if anything, he would see the way you live you life constantly rattling on about GOD and his power and the need to pray as being selfish, I am sure he is thinking "Just get the fuck on with it, and forget about me, you pathetic, weak, whiny piece of shit"
Then why would He give us religion? ::)
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Then why would He give us religion? ::)
To sort the men from the boys!
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I feel sorry for you.
X2 Ekul you are a sad individual, probably the most miserable persona on getbig by a long shot.
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Hitler was an anti christian.
Born into the tradition, rejected the tradition. Killed thousands of catholic priests.
That's Bullshit, the Religious Nutjobs have tried to disown him, but their is no doubt, Hitler thought he was doing Gods work. Hitler was Raised as Catholic he went to a monastery school and and as a young boy, Hitler's most ardent goal was to become a Priest. Much of his philosophy came from the Bible, and more influentially, from the Christian Social movement. Hitler killed some Polish priests for political reasons, not because he was anti-religion, that too he would have seen as the work of God.
"Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord."
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X2 Ekul you are a sad individual, probably the most miserable persona on getbig by a long shot.
How easily butthurt those who cling to God really are, if God in reality actually empowered you people, you wouldn't be so easily butthurt. Religious peoples sensitivity is the worst advertisement for Religion ever. Your reactions to other peoples view of your silly faith and belief in nonsense is identical to children discovering for the first time their is no Santa Clause, first they don't believe it, then they get mad, then they tell the person off for telling them the truth, Santa was such a great delusion.
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Choosing hate
We should speak frankly on the totality of our philosophy, especially if we are to make laws upon them. In a perfect world, we would be to the point on our aims, and honest about what we believe. We would not hide or suppress part of our philosophy, while promoting another.
But from what I have seen in the United States, many people’s beliefs are predicated on an ancient text (the Bible, which I begrudgingly capitalize). The problem with these ancient precepts (which actually predate the Koran) is that Americans today are not swallowing them whole, or taking them in their totality.
It would seem that today, as has been the case for so many generations before, the Christians of America do not seek, at least in large numbers, to seek out the Bible in any totality whatsoever. They do, however, by and large, use the portions which promote acceptable hate. So much have the social mores changed in the last century and a half, that they surely must realize that some of the nonsense in their infallible text is simply non-acceptable.
It is obvious that the Christian faith in the United States has shed some of the harsher shucks of its faith. The South, in particular, has abandoned its pro-slavery rhetoric that so many died believing in the Civil War.
Consider this:
Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ. Ephesians 6:5
However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way. Leviticus 25:44-46
It is worth noting that the second passage, given its racial definition, not only gives divine right to slavery itself, but also defines racism as a perfectly acceptable ideology.
The new hate is a buckshot of the past. It espouses the exclusion of homosexuals while ignoring equally as ridiculous tenants from other parts within its own text. Let us be real –
The LORD then gave these further instructions to Moses: 'Tell the people of Israel to keep my Sabbath day, for the Sabbath is a sign of the covenant between me and you forever. It helps you to remember that I am the LORD, who makes you holy. Yes, keep the Sabbath day, for it is holy. Anyone who desecrates it must die; anyone who works on that day will be cut off from the community. Work six days only, but the seventh day must be a day of total rest. I repeat: Because the LORD considers it a holy day, anyone who works on the Sabbath must be put to death.' (Exodus 31:12-15 NLT)
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Choosing hate
We should speak frankly on the totality of our philosophy, especially if we are to make laws upon them. In a perfect world, we would be to the point on our aims, and honest about what we believe. We would not hide or suppress part of our philosophy, while promoting another.
But from what I have seen in the United States, many people’s beliefs are predicated on an ancient text (the Bible, which I begrudgingly capitalize). The problem with these ancient precepts (which actually predate the Koran) is that Americans today are not swallowing them whole, or taking them in their totality.
It would seem that today, as has been the case for so many generations before, the Christians of America do not seek, at least in large numbers, to seek out the Bible in any totality whatsoever. They do, however, by and large, use the portions which promote acceptable hate. So much have the social mores changed in the last century and a half, that they surely must realize that some of the nonsense in their infallible text is simply non-acceptable.
It is obvious that the Christian faith in the United States has shed some of the harsher shucks of its faith. The South, in particular, has abandoned its pro-slavery rhetoric that so many died believing in the Civil War.
Consider this:
Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ. Ephesians 6:5
However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way. Leviticus 25:44-46
It is worth noting that the second passage, given its racial definition, not only gives divine right to slavery itself, but also defines racism as a perfectly acceptable ideology.
The new hate is a buckshot of the past. It espouses the exclusion of homosexuals while ignoring equally as ridiculous tenants from other parts within its own text. Let us be real –
The LORD then gave these further instructions to Moses: 'Tell the people of Israel to keep my Sabbath day, for the Sabbath is a sign of the covenant between me and you forever. It helps you to remember that I am the LORD, who makes you holy. Yes, keep the Sabbath day, for it is holy. Anyone who desecrates it must die; anyone who works on that day will be cut off from the community. Work six days only, but the seventh day must be a day of total rest. I repeat: Because the LORD considers it a holy day, anyone who works on the Sabbath must be put to death.' (Exodus 31:12-15 NLT)
What are you suggesting based on the verses you posted? Help me understand.
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Have you ever considered God prefers atheists? Why do you think Religious zealots are called God BOTHERERS! it's because GOD wants you to leave him the fuck alone, in his mind, he believes he has given you all the tools you will ever need to get through life, and what the fuck do you do, you constantly bombard him with prayers and whiny complaints and petty problems, if anything, he would see the way you live you life constantly rattling on about GOD and his power and the need to pray as being selfish, I am sure he is thinking "Just get the fuck on with it, and forget about me, you pathetic, weak, whiny piece of shit"
Sounds great E-Kul...keep up the good work!
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X2 Ekul you are a sad individual, probably the most miserable persona on getbig by a long shot.
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What are you suggesting based on the verses you posted? Help me understand.
I'm suggesting that - "anyone who works on the Sabbath must be put to death" - means that anyone who works on the Sabbath must be put to death.
Is that such a reach?
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I'm suggesting that - "anyone who works on the Sabbath must be put to death" - means that anyone who works on the Sabbath must be put to death.
Is that such a reach?
Are you getting called to fight if intruders that come to your door? Do you have to travel with soldiers and bodyguards every time you had to visit another city?, do you have designated days when you have to shower once a week, Are you collecting your portion of foods on a daily base?
You clearly know jack about history bro, these are the days of conquest where the wrong move can not only get you killed by the sourounding nations but can result in an entire genocide of your people.
Have you ever read the Sun Tzu (The art of war)... NO of course not, well I have memorized the whole book and the driving forces that dictate a win in battle is the Morale of a soldier (of course there are other factors such as the ability of the commander, the discipline of a soldier, the terrain etc)
The Israelites were elite warriors in those days and all the victories of all the battles was accredited to God, so a Sunday was the sacred day of the lord, it must be sanctified and honoured for the Lord to continue giving them victories, the morale alone on this issue would make them better fighters.
``The Lord is a man of war, the lord is his name``
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It's because christians do not follow God's law. Plus what is God's law according to the Jews we don't even know, they themselves have resorted to rabbinical traditions and writings in the talmud more so than the law of moses.
The Christians pick and chose what they want in the old testament and say it is only there for 'historical sake', so it seems the ten commandments are 'important' yet they worship a man even though the first two commandments say there is only one God and that there is nothing like God and to not create any graven image of anything in the earth, sky or water. Idols, etc...
Look at the sistine chappele they PAINT 'god' with adam touching hands. So again proof they just pick and choose.
And if even for sake of argument we talk about the new testament being what christians follows.
Paul says a woman should shave her head if she does not cover it (veils it). Yet do christian women veil thier heads? No? Sister nuns do, because they are 'holy'. Yet when Muslims cover their heads muslim women are attacked.
It's a pick and chose religion, follow whatever your heart desires and you are still 'saved'.
That's why Christians do whatever they want party, fornication, drink, etc... and think they are 'saved'.
Drinking is cursed and spoken ill off in the bible 70 times. Yet christians drink. Pork is forbidden in the bible but they will say later it was 'purified' in paul's writings. Fornication is punishable by death, yet today christians fornicate. Fifty some years ago at least people abstained before marriage, now a days doesn't matter people fornicate. Yet they still believe they are 'saved'.
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It's because christians do not follow God's law. Plus what is God's law according to the Jews we don't even know, they themselves have resorted to rabbinical traditions and writings in the talmud more so than the law of moses.
The Christians pick and chose what they want in the old testament and say it is only there for 'historical sake', so it seems the ten commandments are 'important' yet they worship a man even though the first two commandments say there is only one God and that there is nothing like God and to not create any graven image of anything in the earth, sky or water. Idols, etc...
Look at the sistine chappele they PAINT 'god' with adam touching hands. So again proof they just pick and choose.
And if even for sake of argument we talk about the new testament being what christians follows.
Paul says a woman should shave her head if she does not cover it (veils it). Yet do christian women veil thier heads? No? Sister nuns do, because they are 'holy'. Yet when Muslims cover their heads muslim women are attacked.
It's a pick and chose religion, follow whatever your heart desires and you are still 'saved'.
That's why Christians do whatever they want party, fornication, drink, etc... and think they are 'saved'.
Drinking is cursed and spoken ill off in the bible 70 times. Yet christians drink. Pork is forbidden in the bible but they will say later it was 'purified' in paul's writings. Fornication is punishable by death, yet today christians fornicate. Fifty some years ago at least people abstained before marriage, now a days doesn't matter people fornicate. Yet they still believe they are 'saved'.
another punch of truth right in the face of the haters! the amount of truth in this post is purely amazing!
Ahmed knows, whats up.
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another punch of truth right in the face of the haters! the amount of truth in this post is purely amazing!
Ahmed knows, whats up.
Hahaha . The account switching to delriously bray at your own posts are quite amusing.
Unfortunately your chrisitian baiting "truths" are quite laughable. Pathetic but laughable
Keep it up though.
Love to see the sheer desperation of muslims illustrated so well. :)
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I would hope mods can step in and reveal IP addresses and reveal who really is a gimmick. Stefano/the scott/loco/thick nick/e-kul etc...
Truthbb93 is not me and vice versa. Is not bobber. Etc...
The only ones desperate enough to need gimmicks are those that have no truth to share but only bash and bash as you trolls have been doing. You have no debating points or discussion points only hatered and lies :)
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I would hope mods can step in and reveal IP addresses and reveal who really is a gimmick. Stefano/the scott/loco/thick nick/e-kul etc...
Truthbb93 is not me and vice versa. Is not bobber. Etc...
The only ones desperate enough to need gimmicks are those that have no truth to share but only bash and bash as you trolls have been doing. You have no debating points or discussion points only hatered and lies :)
Mods don't have the ability to see/modify member account properties, IP addresses, etc...only site adminstrators and site owners can view that. We can only work with the posts and threads on the board we moderate and keep that organized.
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I would hope mods can step in and reveal IP addresses and reveal who really is a gimmick. Stefano/the scott/loco/thick nick/e-kul etc...
Truthbb93 is not me and vice versa. Is not bobber. Etc...
The only ones desperate enough to need gimmicks are those that have no truth to share but only bash and bash as you trolls have been doing. You have no debating points or discussion points only hatered and lies :)
Funny that you/truebband bober ( why do you insist on misspelling his name as bobber? Scared it'll show up on google along with you antichristian rants? ;) ) seem to follow the same pattern of attack. In fact your truebb account is frequently online at the same times you are.
You on the other hand have no debating points beyond your cut and paste from islamic sites that are engaged in chrisitian baiting. Thats why you engage in denial whenever contrary evidence is posted. Basically you a re just a brainwashed muslim drone.
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Oh brother someone has mental issues ::)
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Oh brother someone has mental issues ::)
Yes you do. Thanks for acknowlding that. :)
I would advise seeking help but that would involved you having to undergo some form of deprogramming to undo the psychological damage and nonsensical thinking you suffer from.
We are hopeful that you will continue to entertain us further with your facinatingly delusional train of thought.
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What are you even talking about!?!? Are you intoxicated? Make some sense. I don't even understand what you are rambling on about in your anger scott.
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Dude, what the hell are you talking about?! Are you mentally retarded? Serious question.
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You seem to be losing it even more than usual achmutt.
Give the medication time to kick in.
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So Stefano/the scott/loco/thick nick/e-kul you really are dumb huh?
did you guys ride the short bus to school? ??? I mean come on...
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You're afraid to answer the question, aren't you?
He can never respond to proper question so he twists and squirms and will eventually go off topic into another subject. He has no defense for the actions of the cult he follows.
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So Stefano/the scott/loco/thick nick/e-kul you really are dumb huh?
did you guys ride the short bus to school? ??? I mean come on...
Actually the shortbus is reserved for muslims..except they've never been to anyplace with any real education.
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I have seen the evil of your faith first hand. So answer me this, if your Imam said you had to kill me because I am who I am, would you do so or not? Your faith demands my death for not submitting. It is written in your book. On the one hand you are supposed to honor all people of the book and yet on the other, you are commanded to kill those that do not believe as you.
The world would be watching. It is now. Just answer the question, not skirt it.
LOL...first off no Imam has the right to tell anyone to kill anyone, so that right there shows your ignorance, even more so to kill you "just becuase who you are" that dosent happen in islam.
watch this and feel ashamed.
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Answer the question I posed to a_ahmed. Would you take my life when ordered to by your Imam? I mean come on...
NO! lol, i cannot even TOUCH with intent to harm you just becuase of who you are! its forbidden becuase your still considerd innocent as you havent threatend to kill muslims/take thier land! NOW if you grab a gun and head to the mosque to kill muslims well then your FAIR GAME...make sense?
muslims cannot fight jews,christians who are just and not fighting them physically.
also the Imam is just the one who leads the prayer...he cant order excecutions!
its very simple, use your head! think of it like this, I might HATE you! i mean really really HATE you but i stil can not kill/harm you, becuase your innocent(even though you slander islam) now the moment you grab a gun and wan PHYSICAL FIGHTING then now you get harmed/killed you can only blame youself.
its like you comming to a mosque and going on a shooting spree, a muslim with a gun kills you is that just? YES.
but if you standing outside the mosque protesting/yelling vulgar words its still not allowed to harm you...understand?
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Too bad what muslims say and what they actually do are two different things. Recent muslim riots are evidence of thwt. Cue the behead those who insult islam posters in uk. No imam or mosque stepped in to correct those rioters.
Imams themselves orchestrated the riots. That has already been established. Several imams have already made race inciting threats in public. This is why those mosques are under invetigation
How do you explain the fatwas issued against cartoonists
, filmmakers and authors?
[]Shahin Najafi
An Iranian rapper who raps in Persian language has been forced into hiding after hardline clerics offered a $100,000 reward for his murder, incensed by his song (Naghi) which is satirising the Tehran regime and making allegedly irreverent remarks about the tenth Islamic imam (Naghi).[4]
[edit]Muammar al-Gaddafi
A Muslim cleric, Al Qardawi, issued a fatwa that urged people to kill Gaddafi if they were able to do so.[4]
[edit]Geert Wilders
Among the many Dutch politicians who have had a fatwa issued against them, possibly the best-known internationally is Geert Wilders. In 2008 Wilders received 285 death threats, with a further 264 aimed at all Dutch politicians. There were a total of 145 protection orders for Wilders in 2006; in 2005 there were 110.[5] An Australian imam named Feiz Mohammad has issued a fatwa calling for the Dutch politician’s beheading, as of 2010.[6]
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Too bad what muslims say and what they actually do are two different things. Recent muslim riots are evidence of thwt. Cue the behead those who insult islam posters in uk. No imam or mosque stepped in to correct those rioters.
this is the typical response...from stefano.
let me tell you somthing(i will put in it bold since you a little slow in the head) I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL MUSLIMS IN THE WORD/WHAT THEY DO! so quit this BS arugment you alwas have when you get proven wrong.
ISLAM SAYS DONT KILL INOCENT PEOPLE, SOME CRAZY MUSLIMS DO ANWAYS WHOS FAULT IS THAT? THE PEOPLES FAULT NOT ISLAM.
ISLAM FORBIDS FORCED MARRIAGES YET PEOPLE STILL DO IT, WHOS FAULT IS THAT? THE PEOPLE NOT ISLAM.
USE YOUR HEAD.
your trolling attempts aren working anymore. get some new tactics/gimmicks or better yet get on your real account.
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this is the typical response...from stefano.
let me tell you somthing I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL MUSLIMS IN THE WORD! so quit this BS arugment you alwas have when you get proven wrong.
ISLAM SAYS DONT KILL INOCENT PEOPLE, SOME CRAZY MUSLIMS DO ANWAYS WHOS FAULT IS THAT? THE PEOPLES FAULT NOT ISLAM.
ISLAM FORBIDS FORCED MARRIAGES YET PEOPLE STILL DO IT, WHOS FAULT IS THAT? THE PEOPLE NOT ISLAM.
USE YOUR HEAD.
It is the fault of islam because they dont step in to control or stop it. Remeber when that preacher was trying to burn korans? Plenty of christians were furious and put pressure on him to stop. No moderate imam has stepped in to muzzle the imams who order killings or riots. Its well known that the wahabists of the middle east finance these imams and most muslims are scared to speak out. Islam rules through fear. That is fact admitted by most moderate muslims.
[edit]Salman Rushdie
Main article: The Satanic Verses controversy
One of the first well-known fatwas was proclaimed in 1989 by the Iranian Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, against Salman Rushdie over his novel The Satanic Verses. The reason was an allegedly blasphemous statement taken from an early biography of the Prophet Muhammad, regarding the incorporation of pagan goddesses into Islam’s strongly monotheistic structure. Khomeini died shortly after issuing the fatwa. In 1998 Iran stated it is no longer pursuing Rushdie’s death; however, that decree was again reversed in early 2005 by the present theocrat, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.
In 1991, Rushdie's Japanese translator, Hitoshi Igarashi, was stabbed to death in Tokyo, and his Italian translator was beaten and stabbed in Milan. In 1993, Rushdie's Norwegian publisher William Nygaard was shot and severely injured in an attack outside his house in Oslo. Thirty-seven guests died when their hotel in Sivas, Turkey was torched by locals protesting against Aziz Nesin, Rushdie's Turkish translator.
[edit]Taslima Nasreen
Fundamentalists in Bangladesh proclaimed a similar fatwa against Taslima Nasreen in 1993, against a series of newspaper columns in which she was critical of the treatment of women under Islam. The next year she wrote Lajja (Shame) which described the abuse of women and minorities. Again there were calls for her death, and her passport was confiscated. Within the legal system, she felt that she might have faced a jail term of up to two years, where she was likely to be murdered. She managed to escape the country via Calcutta, was granted asylum in Sweden, and then lived in Paris, and finally came to India. Even in India, she had to flee the city of Calcutta and move to Delhi under Indian government's strict orders following riots in Calcutta.
[edit]Isioma Daniel
Mamuda Aliyu Shinkafi, the deputy governor of Zamfara state in Nigeria, issued a fatwa in November 2002 calling for the death of journalist Isioma Daniel for comments suggesting that Muhammad may have chosen a wife from one of the Miss World contest.[8] Other Muslim authorities have questioned the validity of the fatwa.[9]
[edit]Raheel Raza
Raheel Raza, a Muslim human rights activist who has advocated for gender equality, especially for Muslim women, became the first woman to lead mixed-gender Muslim prayers in Canada, in 2005, and said: "I already have a fatwa against me".[10][11][12][13][14][15]
[edit]Mariwan Halabjaee
Main article: Mariwan Halabjaee
In an audio file published on the Kurdish website Renesans.nu during September 2008, Mullah Krekar allegedly threatened to kill Mariwan Halabjaee, the Iraqi Kurdish author of Sex, Sharia and Women in the History of Islam, who also resided in Norway. "I swear that we will not live if you live. Either you go before us, or we go before you," said Krekar.[16] Krekar compared Halabjaee with Salman Rushdie and Ayaan Hirsi Ali.[17]
In February 2012, Krekar confirmed in the Oslo District Court that he had issued a twenty page fatwa against Halabjaee.[18] The fatwa was sent to several hundred Islamic scholars around the world. While Krekar said he thought he might be able to "guarantee the safety" of Halabjaee, Krekar confirmed that his fatwa "implies" that it is "permissible" to kill Halabjaee in Oslo or anywhere else.[19] Krekar compared Halabjaee to Theo van Gogh, the film director who was killed by an Islamist in the Netherlands in 2004.[20]
[edit]Ulil Abshar Abdalla
Main article: Ulil Abshar Abdalla
In 2003, a group of Indonesian Islamic cleric from Forum Ulama Umat Islam issued a death fatwa against Ulil[21] for an article that Ulil wrote in Kompas in 2002, "Menyegarkan Kembali Pemahaman Islam" (Rejuvenating the Islamic Understanding) [22][23] that is considered heretical by the clerics. In March 2011, a letter bomb addressed to Ulil at Komunitas Utan Kayu exploded, injuring a police officer.
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I shall tell you a truth and then I must rest.
You are responsible for your faith and how the world sees it. Think about this. It is true. Now then, once more, I shall tell you another truth and that is that I know you.
Well said.
Instead of muslims blaming chrisitians or the west they should put their own house in order.
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It is the fault of islam because they dont step in to control or stop it. Remeber when that preacher was trying to burn korans? Plenty of christians were furious and put pressure on him to stop. No moderate imam has stepped in to muzzle the imams who order killings or riots. Its well known that the wahabists of the middle east finance these imams and most muslims are scared to speak out. Islam rules through fear. That is fact admitted by most moderate muslims.
No, I fear nothing but Allah.
maybe in some countries they rule by fear but thats not how it should be , THERE IS NO CUMPULSION in religion!! because islam starts at the HEART. if someone has a gun to your head yelling "be a muslim!" and you say "OK!" that dosent make you a muslim....understand?
dont you know the media HATES! HATES! muslims? The local Imams at my mosque MULTIPLE TIMES said that the violence(burning cars, buildings, killing people) is WORNG just becuase your angry! (this was when that stupid movie came out which cuased riots in the middle east.)
he(the local imam) said the prophet himself was mocked TO HIS FACE! yet not even ONCE did he react, he kept his cool! becuase he knows ALLAH will punish the worng does/slanders/turth deniers and ALLAH is the ultimate judge! and all power belongs to him! so if the Prophet himself kept his cool we should too
.....do you really think the media will air this on prime time? NO WAY!
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Well said.
Instead of muslims blaming chrisitians or the west they should put their own house in order.
again...once again your so IGNORANT! do you know how many lectures, talks, speechs FAMOUS muslim scholars have given about the need for change in the muslim world?
OPEN YOUR EYES STEFANO.
islam is the truth. There is no God but Allah, and mohammad, jesus and moses are his Messengers.
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I shall tell you a truth and then I must rest.
You are responsible for your faith and how the world sees it. Think about this. It is true. Now then, once more, I shall tell you another truth and that is that I know you.
you know me? ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) I am sure you do ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
is "rest" a codename for switching accounts? LOL
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you know me? ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) I am sure you do ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
is "rest" a codename for switching accounts? LOL
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You probably speak from experience right? ;D
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You probably speak from experience right? ;D
I am not a gimmick you idiot, The Scott urr..uhhh... I mean Stefano.
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I am not a gimmick you idiot, The Scott urr..uhhh... I mean Stefano.
Oohhh. now i'm the scott? No longer ekul? pity i could have posted up some muslim attrocities in australia if it would have helped.
Lets Spin the wheel and try again achmutt.
Its not fair. you own yourself In greater volumes than all the damage i do.
Let me catch up dammit ;D
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Oh how well I do know you. I need to rest as I have had the flu now for several days. Knowing you I gave you the chance to repent. But, again knowing you would not I tell you this for your ignorance.
La'anatullah
Your choice. You have no idea who or what you have insulted, do you? Think over your ignorance with regard to People of the Book and repent.
I worship Allah the God of Abraham. I fear no one. I fear only Allah.
There is no God but Allah and Mohammad is his messenger.
you want to curse me for spreading the truth of Islam and saying God is one? remember Allah sees everything and will punish the wrong doers and the ones of hide the truth like you do.
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There is no God but Allah and Mohammad is his messenger.
Fixed for the fun of it.
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There is no God, Only a bunch of delusional humans afraid to stand on their own two feet and putting all their faith in wishful thinking.
Fixed
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if only you knew!
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if only you knew!
My God is greater. Your god lives beneath Him.
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My God is greater. Your god lives beneath Him.
oh really, keep lying to youself then.
I worship the same God Moses, Jesus and Mohammad did, i suggest you do too.
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oh really, keep lying to youself then.
I worship the same God Moses, Jesus and Mohammad did, i suggest you do too.
Easy with the name dropping there, Captain Sassypants.
I remind you that there is no God but Allah and Mohammad is his messenger. A true Muslim would not need to be reminded.
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Easy with the name dropping there, Captain Sassypants.
I remind you that there is no God but Allah and Mohammad is his messenger. A true Muslim would not need to be reminded.
alright "tapeworm"
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alright "tapeworm"
You are exposed, infidel. May the milk of your goats run sour as your false faith. For there is no God but Allah and Mohammad is his messenger.
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For there is no God but Allah and Mohammad is his messenger.
you speak the truth
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OMG I've converted to Islam! Looking forward to going online and pissing people off with my unwelcome views.
Wait, I....
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OMG I've converted to Islam! Looking forward to going online and pissing people off with my unwelcome views.
Wait, I....
looks like we got a comedian over here.
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One time Jesus tapped Mohammed out in an arm bar.
Fact.
I read it in an old, mysterious book.
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;D@ arsehole
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I think religion is BS, but it seems that over time, the greatest leaders, the kings, queens and the elite rich of today are all die hard religious nuts. Did religion have a role in their power and success? it seems that almost every super rich non jew person is a big church goer. The same over history. what gives?
"Religion" is bullshit. I agree. Relationship with Christ however isn't. There's a difference. Any cult or even Christianity can make you rich. There are also a lot of rich preachers/tv evangelists because that's what they seek after. There are many biblical warnings of lusting after or having the "love of money". It warns of such people saying they have a "form of godliness" but deny its power. They use Christianity as a means to get rich and therefore set "a snare for themselves". There's nothing inordinately evil about money but lusting after after it is wrong. Its like sex, its good and intended by God to procreate and be pleasurable but out of the confines of a committed relationship (ideally marriage) it can potentially do great harm and often does. You only have to see the evils that have taken place due to people abusing it and placing it almost as a god in their lives, unwanted pregnancies, sexually transmitted diseases, AIDS, even some cancers have been linked to sex, hurt emotions, shattered relationships, emptiness, lack of respect for the opposite sex, sexual addiction, and porn fetishes.
So the same can be said for the lusting to get rich for church going folks. Its just another pleasurable temptation that most of us desire but most never obtain and some are just happy to comfortably get by. I also think it depends on where you live as well. I live in Australia and there's not the pressure here as much to make lots of money like there is in the States. Over there you're on welfare for six months then you're forced to look for work. Here its more like years you can be out of work and continue to receive benefits. Tho they're cracking down a lot more and making it harder Ive heard.
But yeah there are a lot of richy Christians/jews/. But I can tell you its probably being achieved through dishonest means. The prosperity gospel had a lot to do with this. Whenever you hear religious leaders talking in terms of (Name it and Claim it) (god wants you wealthy) etc, that is a false "gospel" and rubbish. Its totally anti-Christian and a lot of people have been led astray by it in the church. If you ever get the chance I'd highly suggest you check out a video if you're interested by Justin Peters called A Call For Discernment. Its excellent. And really explains that whole false gospel and the Heath and Wealth cult. Even if you're not Christian yourself its still a very good, eye opening video.