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Title: Average age of Arnold Classic competitors (1996 vs 2013 )
Post by: che on March 03, 2013, 09:39:33 PM
What does this mean ?

1996 average =  29.5

1      Kevin Levrone , 27   
2   Flex Wheeler , 30   
3   Paul Dillett    , 30   
4   Vince Taylor,40   
5   Shawn Ray, 30
6   Andreas Munzer , 31      
7   Roland Cziurlok ,28      
8   Porter Cottrell , 33   
9   Jean Pierre Fux , 27   
10   Darrem Charles , 26   
11   Gunter Schlierkamp , 26   
12   Roland Kickinger , 27


2013 average = 39.5

1. Dexter Jackson , 43
2. Ben Pakulski , 31
3. Toney Freeman , 46
4. Johnnie Jackson , 42
5. Hidetada Yamagishi ,39
6. Cedric McMillan , 35
7. Fred Smalls , 38
8. Edward Nunn , 41
9. Darrem Charles, 43
10. Fouad Abiad , 34
11. Marcus Haley , 40
12. Michael Kefalianos ,42
13. Ronny Rockel , 40
Title: Re: Average age of Arnold Classic competitors (1996 vs 2013 )
Post by: Master Blaster on March 03, 2013, 09:41:57 PM
That extra 25 lb of muscle takes a good 6-7 years to mature.
Title: Re: Average age of Arnold Classic competitors (1996 vs 2013 )
Post by: MCWAY on March 03, 2013, 09:43:12 PM
What does this mean ?

1996 average =  29.5

1      Kevin Levrone , 27   
2   Flex Wheeler , 30   
3   Paul Dillett    , 30   
4   Vince Taylor,40   
5   Shawn Ray, 30
6   Andreas Munzer , 31      
7   Roland Cziurlok ,28      
8   Porter Cottrell , 33   
9   Jean Pierre Fux , 27   
10   Darrem Charles , 26   
11   Gunter Schlierkamp , 26   
12   Roland Kickinger , 27


2013 average = 39.5

1. Dexter Jackson , 43
2. Ben Pakulski , 31
3. Toney Freeman , 46
4. Johnnie Jackson , 42
5. Hidetada Yamagishi ,39
6. Cedric McMillan , 35
7. Fred Smalls , 38
8. Edward Nunn , 41
9. Darrem Charles, 43
10. Fouad Abiad , 34
11. Marcus Haley , 40
12. Michael Kefalianos ,42
13. Ronny Rockel , 40

It means the youngsters don't want to step onstage. How many times have we seen the winners of the Nationals, the USA, or the North American take a eyar or two off, before actually stepping onstage?


Title: Re: Average age of Arnold Classic competitors (1996 vs 2013 )
Post by: che on March 03, 2013, 09:52:59 PM
It means the youngsters don't want to step onstage. How many times have we seen the winners of the Nationals, the USA, or the North American take a eyar or two off, before actually stepping onstage?




Who  are these youngsters ?
Title: Re: Average age of Arnold Classic competitors (1996 vs 2013 )
Post by: Rami on March 03, 2013, 10:07:19 PM
It means that young people today knows better than to waste money and health to become a pro bodybuilder
Title: Re: Average age of Arnold Classic competitors (1996 vs 2013 )
Post by: Meso_z on March 04, 2013, 12:23:27 AM
What does this mean ?

1996 average =  29.5

1      Kevin Levrone , 27   
2   Flex Wheeler , 30   
3   Paul Dillett    , 30   
4   Vince Taylor,40   
5   Shawn Ray, 30
6   Andreas Munzer , 31      
7   Roland Cziurlok ,28      
8   Porter Cottrell , 33   
9   Jean Pierre Fux , 27   
10   Darrem Charles , 26   
11   Gunter Schlierkamp , 26   
12   Roland Kickinger , 27


2013 average = 39.5

1. Dexter Jackson , 43
2. Ben Pakulski , 31
3. Toney Freeman , 46
4. Johnnie Jackson , 42
5. Hidetada Yamagishi ,39
6. Cedric McMillan , 35
7. Fred Smalls , 38
8. Edward Nunn , 41
9. Darrem Charles, 43
10. Fouad Abiad , 34
11. Marcus Haley , 40
12. Michael Kefalianos ,42
13. Ronny Rockel , 40
better crop of pros in the 90's.
Title: Re: Average age of Arnold Classic competitors (1996 vs 2013 )
Post by: erics on March 04, 2013, 02:30:47 AM
It means that young people today knows better than to waste money and health to become a pro bodybuilder

This is true.

The IFBB have a clever marketing strategy for ensuring that the future growth of their sport is secure.

Apparently, their research told them that young men are inspired to develop bellies and pretend they are living the thug life.
Title: Re: Average age of Arnold Classic competitors (1996 vs 2013 )
Post by: Papper on March 04, 2013, 02:45:35 AM
Interesting. Bodybuilding always had younger people in the past, I don't know why the old men are prevalent nowadays.

I bet the Olympia has similar statistics. I think it at least partly has something to do with the "pay your dues" mentality where young unknowns always gets shafted at their first try, no matter how good they look in favor for bodybuilders the judges know, like Warren Brunch.
Title: Re: Average age of Arnold Classic competitors (1996 vs 2013 )
Post by: OTHstrong on March 04, 2013, 02:59:38 AM
Levrone 27 in 96  ::)
Title: Re: Average age of Arnold Classic competitors (1996 vs 2013 )
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on March 04, 2013, 03:01:12 AM
I would like to take a more cynical look and say, that pros in the 2000's have a better understanding of how to take drugs for more years without killing themselves.
Is this completely wrong?
Title: Re: Average age of Arnold Classic competitors (1996 vs 2013 )
Post by: Parker on March 04, 2013, 04:00:09 AM
I would like to take a more cynical look and say, that pros in the 2000's have a better understanding of how to take drugs for more years without killing themselves.
Is this completely wrong?
well, no...it seems as though the ones competing today either started late, or didnt look good beforehand...remember there were several that won their Pro Cards on the first try, namely Richard Jones and Phil Heath, which of all the USA and Nats and North American winners from 2000-2012, looked the best. And that is saying something about the drugs, and genetic pool of the competitors.
Title: Re: Average age of Arnold Classic competitors (1996 vs 2013 )
Post by: MB on March 04, 2013, 08:17:05 AM
They are giving out more pro cards than ever, yet no young guys are competing.  They almost need an under 30 division.  It would help change the look of what's onstage closer what we use to see.  Getting more genetically gifted guys turning pro wouldn't hurt either. 
Title: Re: Average age of Arnold Classic competitors (1996 vs 2013 )
Post by: 240 is Back on March 04, 2013, 08:21:24 AM
That extra 25 lb of muscle takes a good 6-7 years to mature.

Yep... allowing 'the size game' to dominate everything means these new pros will place 14th if they enter.  So they dont bother.

ANd that goes down to the amateur ranks too... Rarely do we see a guy win his pro card at 21 anymore.  They're all 30 when they turn pro.
Title: Re: Average age of Arnold Classic competitors (1996 vs 2013 )
Post by: Viking11 on March 04, 2013, 08:23:53 AM
Takes a long time to get that densely developed. The young guys all needed a "break". Please.
Title: Re: Average age of Arnold Classic competitors (1996 vs 2013 )
Post by: MCWAY on March 04, 2013, 08:26:49 AM
Who  are these youngsters ?

McCarver, Kulco, Valliant, just to name a few.

As I said, the winners of the Nationals, North American, and the USA. (Valliant won the Canadian Nationals).

Evan Centopani (2007 National champion)took a year and half off, before competing as a pro.
Title: Re: Average age of Arnold Classic competitors (1996 vs 2013 )
Post by: MCWAY on March 04, 2013, 08:28:01 AM
It means that young people today knows better than to waste money and health to become a pro bodybuilder

They weren't doing that, who won the Nationals, USA, or North American?
Title: Re: Average age of Arnold Classic competitors (1996 vs 2013 )
Post by: Papper on March 04, 2013, 08:54:15 AM
... Getting more genetically gifted guys turning pro wouldn't hurt either. 

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