PCT after prop

[Loomis]

4 days after last shot?

[Luv2Hurt]

Will need to know much more than that, lay it all out.  Cycle ancillaries you used, is the main thing we need.

[Loomis]

I did 6 weeks of test-e followed by 2 weeks of test-prop. I didn't use any ancillaries during the cycle except a few nolva's to cut bloat. I have Clomid and Nolva for PCT. I;m gonna use the clomid@100mg/ed for 3 weeks. The nolv@20mg/ed for 3 weeks.

[sportingsteroids]

sounds good

[Loomis]

So 4 days after last shot of Prop right?

[Luv2Hurt]

I would just start the nolva now.  Im sure there is plenty of unaddressed aromatase going on any how.  Run it for 4 weeks.  Probally dont need the clomid but if you want wait a week or so and start it then.  I never use more than 50mg of that stuff, if at all.

[BIGMIKE]

100 OF CLOMID SOUNDS LIKE A BIT MUCH FOR JUST AN 8 WEEK CYCLE.NOW THE NEXT THING WE NEED TO KNOW IS WHAT YOUR DOSES WERE.

[Loomis]

100 OF CLOMID SOUNDS LIKE A BIT MUCH FOR JUST AN 8 WEEK CYCLE.NOW THE NEXT THING WE NEED TO KNOW IS WHAT YOUR DOSES WERE.

Enanthate was 500mg/ew frontloaded with a gram the 1st week. Prop is 100mg/eod.

[DIVISION]

4 days after last shot?

The half-life for Prop is 4.5 days, so I would wait a week, but that's just me.

You probably won't need the clomid.

Run the Nolvadex @ 20MG ed........





DIV

[Captain Equipoise]

I would add some HCG if you can get your hands on some, really makes a big difference, esp. in conjunction with nolva and clomid.

[Luv2Hurt]

I would add some HCG if you can get your hands on some, really makes a big difference, esp. in conjunction with nolva and clomid.

I agree with this, HCG when used properly is gonna make a big difference.

[DIVISION]

I agree with this, HCG when used properly is gonna make a big difference.

Normally I'd say yes, but he only did 6 weeks of Test Enanthate.......it's not much.

He should be able to get away with Nolvadex for PCT.......

That cycle is nothing...........




DIV

[muscle19]

good point DIV, if he would have ran a "complete" cycle, then i would recommend using hcg during the cycle at 500ius every 5 days or so.


muscle

[DIVISION]

good point DIV, if he would have ran a "complete" cycle, then i would recommend using hcg during the cycle at 500ius every 5 days or so.

6 Weeks is not a cycle, IMO.

It's a waste of AAS.





DIV

[Loomis]

6 Weeks is not a cycle, IMO.

It's a waste of AAS.





DIV

it was 8 weeks. I gained 15lbs. All my lifts went up. I know from experience that I can keep the gains. Hows that a waste? Calling it a waste without even knowing me or my goals is just more of the "message board steroid law" bullshit that we were recently discussing in another thread. I bulk up very easily due to genetics. I just wanted a short cycle to finish up bulking with. I'll now take a short break and begin cutting, and yeah I'm gonna run primo/winny with *gasp* no test

[DIVISION]

it was 8 weeks. I gained 15lbs. All my lifts went up. I know from experience that I can keep the gains. Hows that a waste? Calling it a waste without even knowing me or my goals is just more of the "message board steroid law" bullshit that we were recently discussing in another thread. I bulk up very easily due to genetics. I just wanted a short cycle to finish up bulking with. I'll now take a short break and begin cutting, and yeah I'm gonna run primo/winny with *gasp* no test

It's my opinion.......just like everything I post.

Some you may agree with, some you may not.

Do I care?  Not really.

8 weeks for a bulker is not feasible, unless you are using Author L Rea's patented "Androgen Max Cycle", and even then you would basically be on shorter at higher dosages.

I could see 8 weeks for a short cutter on pre-contest prep, but NEVER for a bulker.

As far as testosterone, you already know what the consensus is.  Personally, I think you are bit out of touch if you believe it causes all these negative sides.  Did you see a physician during that cycle?  I think it was something else.  Once you inject exogenous testosterone in to your body there is no difference between it and your body's naturally produced testosterone.  Do you see my point?

Your logic is flawed.




DIV

[Loomis]

if I got what I wanted from the cycle that's all that matters to me. I wanted to get to a certain weight and strength level before I cut. I acomplished that in 8 weeks.