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Re: Obama's Leadership
« Reply #275 on: September 18, 2015, 06:37:36 PM »
Exactly. 

I really LOL'd at this:

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« Reply #276 on: September 18, 2015, 06:44:07 PM »
I'll believe it when I see it.

He would make himself king of the world if he could get away with it, and there are people that would love to see that through.

he already is ;)

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« Reply #278 on: September 18, 2015, 07:08:51 PM »
What do you mean?

The president of the United States is always basically the king of the world..every decision he makes affects people all over the world....

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« Reply #279 on: September 18, 2015, 07:17:12 PM »
The president of the United States is always basically the king of the world..every decision he makes affects people all over the world....

Will you be sad to see Obama go, Andre?

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« Reply #280 on: September 19, 2015, 10:19:33 AM »
His leadership didn't do so hot in Kenya.

Kenya’s President Did NOT Like What Obama Said To His Country And He Let The Whole World Know It
Kenyatta’s opposition to Obama reflects Kenyan society.
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July 27, 2015

Kenyan President Uhuru Kenyatta has made it clear that President Obama was speaking to the wrong congregation when he urged Kenyans to embrace gay rights.

During a Saturday news conference in Nairobi, Kenya, at the start of his trip to Africa, Obama equated the denial of gay rights with racism. “As an African-American, I am painfully aware of what happens when people are treated differently under the law,” Obama said.

Kenyatta replied that although there are many areas of agreement between Kenya and the United States, Obama found an area where the two nations disagree.

“There are some things that we must admit we don’t share, our culture, our societies don’t accept,” Kenyatta said. “For Kenyans today, the issue of gay rights is really a non-issue. We want to focus on other issues that really are day-to-day issues for our people.”

Obama’s call for gay rights came despite pre-visit requests from Kenyan politicians and religious leaders to leave the issue alone.
 
“We do not want him to come and talk on homosexuality in Kenya or push us to accepting that which is against our faith and culture,” said Mark Kariuki, the key architect of the letter. Kariuki leads an alliance representing 38,000 churches and 10 million Kenyan Christians.

“The family is the strength of a nation. If the family is destroyed, then the nation is destroyed,” Kariuki said. “So we don’t want to open doors for our nation to be destroyed!”

Kenyatta’s opposition to Obama reflects Kenyan society. A 2007 Pew Global study found that 96% of Kenyans surveyed believe that homosexuality should be rejected. Forty-one percent of American respondents felt that way at the time of the poll.

Kenyan law makes sexual activity between two individuals of the same gender illegal and punishable by a maximum jail sentence of 14 years in most cases.

http://www.westernjournalism.com/kenyas-president-did-not-like-what-obama-said-to-his-country-and-he-let-the-whole-world-know-it/?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=WesternJournalism&utm_content=2015-07-27

Finally someone reasonable speaks out!!!

How fucking crazy is it that a government thinks they have any say with regards to sexual practices etc.

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Re: Obama's Leadership
« Reply #281 on: September 19, 2015, 10:22:44 AM »
Will you be sad to see Obama go, Andre?


Actually no.....I honestly have never seen so much unwarranted hate for a president in my life.....I will be glad to see him go .....its really painful that we in the United States denigrate our president to such an extent and wee are so immature that we blame him for everything that goes wrong in our lives.....Obama has a fantastic record if people will get past the fact that he's BL:ACK and treat him fairly and objectively...however I realize just as other blacks do that the color of one's skin always diminishes his accomplishments if one is black.....although no one will ever admit to this of course.....

Look at the guy who asked Trump that stupid question the other day about Obama...stating that he is colored and a muslim......43% of Republicans STILL believe that Obama is a Muslim....WOW.....this is the type of ignorant thinking we have in this country among certain segments of the population....if you RATIONALLY look at the statistics you will see that Obama is actually one of the best presidents we've ever had....whether you disagree with his politics or not..just look at what the country looks like now....

Osama Bin Laden.....caught and killed
brought our troops home.....no major wars taking place for the first time in how long???
deficit falling dramatically...yes its still high but its been high since Ronald Reagan was in office and will continue to climb after Obama leaves..but deficit has fallen dramatically for SIX YEARS STRAIGHT AND WILL AGAIN NEXT YEAR..what other president can claim that?????
compare Obama's response to Hurricane Sandy and Bush's to Hurricane Katrina..EVEN CHRIS CHRISTIE WAS HUGGING HIM..LOLOL
Many al Qaeda leaders KILLED BY DRONES
Corporate profits and Wall st income HIGHER THAN ITS EVER BEEN
Economy adding over 200,000 jobs PER MONTH...UE rate at 5.7%....lowest its been since Clinton
corrected a failed policy by normalizing relations with Cuba...Our businesses are salivating at the money they are going to make over there
United States GDP growing at a higher rate than the rest of the world except China, and china's numbers are suspect
Saved the auto industry from collapse
saved the banking industry due to the last financial crisis caused by Republicans who previously DEREGULATED banking
passed Obamacare which has insured something on the order of 14-20 million more Americans..Eliminated the pre-existing condition clause
Gave amnesty to those illegals who have been here and who have stayed out of trouble thus saving us billions in unnecessary deportations
restored some respect to America compared to the Bush years when the world absolutely hated us
Oil prices the lowest they have been in decades...gas actually under $2.00 in some places..U.S. now the biggest oil producer in the world...(when prices were skyhigh people were saying "thanks Obama")
also Obama has managed to push his agenda steadily forward despite being faced with near unanimous opposition from republicans who have refused to work with Obama on ANYTHING even when it was in their best interests
Retaliated against North Korea for their Sony hack

ALSO....got a nuclear treaty done with Iran thus again avoided another costly and unnecessary war..we forget that BUSH actually started the negotiations on this and no other prez could get anything done with Iran..remember the failed Iran/contra scandal by Reagan??????

look at this letter from a Canadian about Obama
http://www.freep.com/story/opinion/readers/2014/11/07/obama-election-republicans-gop-democrats-senate/18606217/

So YES I wlil be very glad actually when Obama leaves office....people will no longer have the black father to blame for everything anymore.....we deserve whatever we get after him

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Re: Obama's Leadership
« Reply #282 on: September 19, 2015, 04:18:48 PM »
Actually no.....I honestly have never seen so much unwarranted hate for a president in my life.....I will be glad to see him go .....its really painful that we in the United States denigrate our president to such an extent and wee are so immature that we blame him for everything that goes wrong in our lives.....Obama has a fantastic record if people will get past the fact that he's BL:ACK and treat him fairly and objectively...however I realize just as other blacks do that the color of one's skin always diminishes his accomplishments if one is black.....although no one will ever admit to this of course.....

Are you saying you feel this way because people will become more harmonious when he's gone?  Or does your last sentence in the post (we deserve whatever we get) mean you want people to "learn their lesson" that Obama wasn't too bad compared to the new administration?

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Look at the guy who asked Trump that stupid question the other day about Obama...stating that he is colored and a muslim......43% of Republicans STILL believe that Obama is a Muslim....WOW.....this is the type of ignorant thinking we have in this country among certain segments of the population....

That was a plant if I've ever seen one.

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if you RATIONALLY look at the statistics you will see that Obama is actually one of the best presidents we've ever had....whether you disagree with his politics or not..just look at what the country looks like now....

Osama Bin Laden.....caught and killed
brought our troops home.....no major wars taking place for the first time in how long???
deficit falling dramatically...yes its still high but its been high since Ronald Reagan was in office and will continue to climb after Obama leaves..but deficit has fallen dramatically for SIX YEARS STRAIGHT AND WILL AGAIN NEXT YEAR..what other president can claim that?????
compare Obama's response to Hurricane Sandy and Bush's to Hurricane Katrina..EVEN CHRIS CHRISTIE WAS HUGGING HIM..LOLOL
Many al Qaeda leaders KILLED BY DRONES

Other than the American kid, we don't exactly know who he's been killing (or why).  You may trust his gang to be the "good guys", but I sure don't.  Not for a second.  Show us WTF you are doing, "leaders", or explain to us why you cannot.  Fact is, no one will explain that.  Why not?  I can't wait for anyone's answer.  (They claim to be doing these things on your behalf, you know.  That's why you should give a damn.)

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Corporate profits and Wall st income HIGHER THAN ITS EVER BEEN
Economy adding over 200,000 jobs PER MONTH...UE rate at 5.7%....lowest its been since Clinton
corrected a failed policy by normalizing relations with Cuba...Our businesses are salivating at the money they are going to make over there
United States GDP growing at a higher rate than the rest of the world except China, and china's numbers are suspect
Saved the auto industry from collapse
saved the banking industry due to the last financial crisis caused by Republicans who previously DEREGULATED banking
passed Obamacare which has insured something on the order of 14-20 million more Americans..Eliminated the pre-existing condition clause
Gave amnesty to those illegals who have been here and who have stayed out of trouble thus saving us billions in unnecessary deportations

No need to spend a penny on deportations.  Only reason people come to illegally work in America is because no one has the fear of profiting from that.  The way we're doing it, now, is leading to our destruction.

If you honestly care about the future of African-Americans, it should be your top issue.

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restored some respect to America compared to the Bush years when the world absolutely hated us
Oil prices the lowest they have been in decades...gas actually under $2.00 in some places..U.S. now the biggest oil producer in the world...(when prices were skyhigh people were saying "thanks Obama")
also Obama has managed to push his agenda steadily forward despite being faced with near unanimous opposition from republicans who have refused to work with Obama on ANYTHING even when it was in their best interests. Retaliated against North Korea for their Sony hack

North Korea did that?

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ALSO....got a nuclear treaty done with Iran thus again avoided another costly and unnecessary war..we forget that BUSH actually started the negotiations on this and no other prez could get anything done with Iran..remember the failed Iran/contra scandal by Reagan??????

look at this letter from a Canadian about Obama
http://www.freep.com/story/opinion/readers/2014/11/07/obama-election-republicans-gop-democrats-senate/18606217/

So YES I wlil be very glad actually when Obama leaves office....people will no longer have the black father to blame for everything anymore.....we deserve whatever we get after him


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Re: Obama's Leadership
« Reply #283 on: November 11, 2015, 04:43:24 PM »
Unable to work with Congress?  Just bypass them and ignore that whole separation of powers thing.

White House hints at executive action to close Gitmo prison despite Hill resistance
Published November 11, 2015
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Suspicions are mounting on Capitol Hill that President Obama could try to use executive action to close the Guantanamo Bay detention center, even after Congress this week approved legislation that would keep the facility open.

The defense policy bill approved Tuesday would bar the transfer of Guantanamo inmates to the United States. Obama, despite opposing that provision, plans to sign the bill.

But the White House may have a back-up plan. Press Secretary Josh Earnest has indicated twice in recent days that Obama could use executive action to get around Congress.   

“I'm going to protect the ability of the president to use his authority [to] move the country in the direction that he believes it should be headed, and particularly when it comes to an issue like … closing the prison at Guantanamo Bay,” Earnest said after the Senate vote, declining to rule out the use of executive action.

Obama still is trying to fulfill his 2008 campaign promise to close the facility, with just 13 months remaining in his presidency.

To date, his efforts repeatedly have been thwarted by Congress, particularly by Republicans who argue that bringing known terrorists onto U.S. soil for trials and prison terms is too much of a national security risk.

The facility at the U.S. naval base in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, was opened in the wake of Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks as an expedient move to get terrorists off the battlefield. But the president argues that keeping the 112 detainees remaining in the facility -- including some who have never had a trial -- is unjust and expensive.

Congress and the administration continue to move in opposing directions on the issue. The $607 billion defense policy bill that banned moving detainees to the United States was approved days after the administration acknowledged the Pentagon is set to release a report on the pros and cons for three potential U.S. detainee-transfer facilities.

While leaving the door open for executive action, the president showed little interest in trying to veto the defense bill, considering the 91-3 Senate vote and 370-58 House vote last week -- numbers that indicate Congress has enough votes for a veto override.

In recent years, including fiscal 2014, Obama signed the bill with a statement objecting to similar Guantanamo restraints.

Even Texas GOP Rep. Mike McCaul acknowledged -- after Earnest first mentioned executive action -- that Congress may have little redress on executive action and called on Americans to mobilize.

“It's hard to stop this kind of action,” McCaul, chairman of the House Committee on Homeland Security, told “Fox News Sunday.” “I would hope the American people would rise up in numbers so strongly … that [Obama] will decide to back down.”

He expressed particular concern about bringing the “worst of the worst” detainees into the country.

“You're going to see a heightened terror-alert threat in the United States,” McCaul said. “It would be highly reckless and irresponsible.”

Even if Congress may be unable to act, a bid to use executive authority is likely to bring accusations of government overreach and lawsuits from other quarters, as with Obama’s 2014 executive actions on immigration.

The actions -- to provide work visas and delay deportation for millions of illegal immigrants -- were again blocked as a result of a federal appeals court decision this week. And the case could be headed to the Supreme Court.

Whether states that receive detainees or others would have legal standing to challenge executive action on Guantanamo is unclear because there is no legal precedent.

However, Charles “Cully” Stimson, a Heritage Foundation legal scholar, pointed out Wednesday that plaintiffs must show “injury” or harm for a court to say they have legal standing to proceed with a case and that a taxpayer suit or one by a local sheriff on Guantanamo is unlikely.

“All of those people are unlikely to have standing,” he said.

Stimson thinks that Congress has perhaps the best chance to achieve standing, consider the suit filed last year by House Republicans arguing Obama acted illegally in implementing his Affordable Care Act.

The suit was authorized after the House passed a resolution and filed it in a U.S. District Court, a move Stimson thinks Congress  could follow if Obama indeed uses executive action on Guantanamo.

However, Republican lawmakers in South Carolina, one of the three states in the pending Pentagon report, appear willing to mount a legal challenge.

“We are absolutely drawing a line that we are not going to allow any terrorists to come into South Carolina,” Gov. Nikki Haley said in a news conference this summer. “We’re not going to allow that kind of threat.”

Haley is joined Sen. Lindsey Graham and Rep. Mark Sanford in opposition to detainees coming to a naval brig near Charleston.

The other two states in the Pentagon report are Colorado and Kansas.

GOP Kansas Sen. Pat Roberts touts having since 2009 kept detainees out of the corrections facility in Leavenworth by holding up Senate confirmation on Obama nominees.

On Tuesday, Roberts launched an online petition for Americans to express their opposition to Obama using executive action.

“Relocating terrorists to the mainland will paint a target on the American communities forced to house these detainees,” Roberts said. “The president has proven he will act in the absence of congressional action to fulfill his campaign promises.”

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/11/11/white-house-hints-at-executive-action-to-close-gitmo-as-congress-state-oppose/?intcmp=hpbt3

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Re: Obama's Leadership
« Reply #284 on: November 11, 2015, 08:35:30 PM »
Unable to work with Congress?  Just bypass them and ignore that whole separation of powers thing.

White House hints at executive action to close Gitmo prison despite Hill resistance
Published November 11, 2015
FoxNews.com

Suspicions are mounting on Capitol Hill that President Obama could try to use executive action to close the Guantanamo Bay detention center, even after Congress this week approved legislation that would keep the facility open.

The defense policy bill approved Tuesday would bar the transfer of Guantanamo inmates to the United States. Obama, despite opposing that provision, plans to sign the bill.

But the White House may have a back-up plan. Press Secretary Josh Earnest has indicated twice in recent days that Obama could use executive action to get around Congress.   

“I'm going to protect the ability of the president to use his authority [to] move the country in the direction that he believes it should be headed, and particularly when it comes to an issue like … closing the prison at Guantanamo Bay,” Earnest said after the Senate vote, declining to rule out the use of executive action.

Obama still is trying to fulfill his 2008 campaign promise to close the facility, with just 13 months remaining in his presidency.

To date, his efforts repeatedly have been thwarted by Congress, particularly by Republicans who argue that bringing known terrorists onto U.S. soil for trials and prison terms is too much of a national security risk.

The facility at the U.S. naval base in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, was opened in the wake of Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks as an expedient move to get terrorists off the battlefield. But the president argues that keeping the 112 detainees remaining in the facility -- including some who have never had a trial -- is unjust and expensive.

Congress and the administration continue to move in opposing directions on the issue. The $607 billion defense policy bill that banned moving detainees to the United States was approved days after the administration acknowledged the Pentagon is set to release a report on the pros and cons for three potential U.S. detainee-transfer facilities.

While leaving the door open for executive action, the president showed little interest in trying to veto the defense bill, considering the 91-3 Senate vote and 370-58 House vote last week -- numbers that indicate Congress has enough votes for a veto override.

In recent years, including fiscal 2014, Obama signed the bill with a statement objecting to similar Guantanamo restraints.

Even Texas GOP Rep. Mike McCaul acknowledged -- after Earnest first mentioned executive action -- that Congress may have little redress on executive action and called on Americans to mobilize.

“It's hard to stop this kind of action,” McCaul, chairman of the House Committee on Homeland Security, told “Fox News Sunday.” “I would hope the American people would rise up in numbers so strongly … that [Obama] will decide to back down.”

He expressed particular concern about bringing the “worst of the worst” detainees into the country.

“You're going to see a heightened terror-alert threat in the United States,” McCaul said. “It would be highly reckless and irresponsible.”

Even if Congress may be unable to act, a bid to use executive authority is likely to bring accusations of government overreach and lawsuits from other quarters, as with Obama’s 2014 executive actions on immigration.

The actions -- to provide work visas and delay deportation for millions of illegal immigrants -- were again blocked as a result of a federal appeals court decision this week. And the case could be headed to the Supreme Court.

Whether states that receive detainees or others would have legal standing to challenge executive action on Guantanamo is unclear because there is no legal precedent.

However, Charles “Cully” Stimson, a Heritage Foundation legal scholar, pointed out Wednesday that plaintiffs must show “injury” or harm for a court to say they have legal standing to proceed with a case and that a taxpayer suit or one by a local sheriff on Guantanamo is unlikely.

“All of those people are unlikely to have standing,” he said.

Stimson thinks that Congress has perhaps the best chance to achieve standing, consider the suit filed last year by House Republicans arguing Obama acted illegally in implementing his Affordable Care Act.

The suit was authorized after the House passed a resolution and filed it in a U.S. District Court, a move Stimson thinks Congress  could follow if Obama indeed uses executive action on Guantanamo.

However, Republican lawmakers in South Carolina, one of the three states in the pending Pentagon report, appear willing to mount a legal challenge.

“We are absolutely drawing a line that we are not going to allow any terrorists to come into South Carolina,” Gov. Nikki Haley said in a news conference this summer. “We’re not going to allow that kind of threat.”

Haley is joined Sen. Lindsey Graham and Rep. Mark Sanford in opposition to detainees coming to a naval brig near Charleston.

The other two states in the Pentagon report are Colorado and Kansas.

GOP Kansas Sen. Pat Roberts touts having since 2009 kept detainees out of the corrections facility in Leavenworth by holding up Senate confirmation on Obama nominees.

On Tuesday, Roberts launched an online petition for Americans to express their opposition to Obama using executive action.

“Relocating terrorists to the mainland will paint a target on the American communities forced to house these detainees,” Roberts said. “The president has proven he will act in the absence of congressional action to fulfill his campaign promises.”

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/11/11/white-house-hints-at-executive-action-to-close-gitmo-as-congress-state-oppose/?intcmp=hpbt3

you're getting more and more idiotic.....and now you're bending the truth

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Re: Obama's Leadership
« Reply #285 on: November 11, 2015, 08:37:57 PM »
you're getting more and more idiotic.....and now you're bending the truth

isn't it funny that dos equis is a mod here - and he acts like this?  Calling names all the time too.

Of course, imagine having to DEFEND the lies and outright idiocy that Carson speaks all the time.  "we need to make isis look like losers, then people won't like that".   WTF.

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« Reply #286 on: November 11, 2015, 08:44:25 PM »
isn't it funny that dos equis is a mod here - and he acts like this?  Calling names all the time too.

Of course, imagine having to DEFEND the lies and outright idiocy that Carson speaks all the time.  "we need to make isis look like losers, then people won't like that".   WTF.

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« Reply #287 on: November 12, 2015, 08:20:21 AM »
you're getting more and more idiotic.....and now you're bending the truth

Says the Obamabot.  Did he give you your orders for the day?   :)

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« Reply #288 on: November 12, 2015, 07:37:28 PM »
Says the Obamabot.  Did he give you your orders for the day?   :)

At least my orders come from someone who is ...you know...COMPETENT........ I'd hate to see the orders you receive everyday from Trump, Carson, Huckabee, etc.....

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« Reply #289 on: November 12, 2015, 07:58:17 PM »
Says the Obamabot.  Did he give you your orders for the day?   :)

why the personal attack?  You don't have any argument, so you just insult him?   That's the kind of move I've only seen from people that engage in carnal acts with sheep, and I know you hate wool.

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« Reply #290 on: November 13, 2015, 09:11:38 AM »
why the personal attack?  You don't have any argument, so you just insult him?   That's the kind of move I've only seen from people that engage in carnal acts with sheep, and I know you hate wool.

Quit crying.  Didn't I just tell you to put on your big boy pants? 

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« Reply #291 on: November 13, 2015, 09:12:29 AM »
At least my orders come from someone who is ...you know...COMPETENT........ I'd hate to see the orders you receive everyday from Trump, Carson, Huckabee, etc.....

You think Obama is competent?   :-[ 


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Re: Obama's Leadership
« Reply #292 on: November 15, 2015, 04:47:42 PM »
You think Obama is competent?   :-[ 



Is Trump and Carson?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

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« Reply #293 on: November 16, 2015, 09:11:32 AM »
Is Trump and Carson?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Do you really think Obama is competent? 

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Re: Obama's Leadership
« Reply #294 on: November 16, 2015, 10:10:19 AM »


Why is it that the French are now hitting training camps?   Why haven't we been doing that?

Why wasn't Obama leading a stronger push to do something about ISIS?

Its failed F.P. leadership on Obama's part. 

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« Reply #295 on: November 16, 2015, 01:00:30 PM »

Why is it that the French are now hitting training camps?   Why haven't we been doing that?

Why wasn't Obama leading a stronger push to do something about ISIS?

Its failed F.P. leadership on Obama's part.  


obama listened to trump and let Russia handle it.  Thanks, The Donald.

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« Reply #296 on: November 16, 2015, 04:35:12 PM »

Why is it that the French are now hitting training camps?   Why haven't we been doing that?

Why wasn't Obama leading a stronger push to do something about ISIS?

Its failed F.P. leadership on Obama's part. 


Nope...its failed leadership on the WORLD'S part....everyone waiting for the US to do everything.....The American people have asserted again and again that they do not want to go to war in the middle east AGAIN......there's nothing in it for us...look how ungrateful the Iraqis are.....we would have to occupy Syria and try to rebuild the nation.....we tried that with Iraq and look where we are today...plus Russia won't let is do that because they WANT Assad in power

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« Reply #297 on: November 16, 2015, 05:41:54 PM »
Nope...its failed leadership on the WORLD'S part....everyone waiting for the US to do everything.....The American people have asserted again and again that they do not want to go to war in the middle east AGAIN......there's nothing in it for us...look how ungrateful the Iraqis are.....we would have to occupy Syria and try to rebuild the nation.....we tried that with Iraq and look where we are today...plus Russia won't let is do that because they WANT Assad in power

Not at all.  Obama is either a world leader or he's not. 


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Re: Obama's Leadership
« Reply #298 on: November 22, 2015, 01:15:07 PM »
Not at all.  Obama is either a world leader or he's not. 



Obama is a world leader but he's not God.....and again the U.S. should not be the army for the world.....why are guys so focused on what Obama is doing???....what is China doing?...are they criticized?...what are the European Un ion countries doing???...are they criticized???....what are the Middle East powers doing???....why no criticism of them>????.....this is in their back yard....Egypt and Saudi Arabia have huge well equipped armies.......so does China......yet it seems that we are always trying to get American troops involved....

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Re: Obama's Leadership
« Reply #299 on: November 24, 2015, 08:00:57 AM »
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Sharyl Attkisson: Obama Will Not Read Intelligence on U.S.-Recognized Terrorist Groups
By Tom Blumer | November 19, 2015

Several times in the past, we've heard President Barack Obama, and occasionally his press secretary, tell America that the nation's commander-in-chief learned about certain events the same way many of the rest of us did: by seeing them on TV or reading newspaper accounts. A Republican or conservative president hauling out this excuse even once would face endless outrage and ridicule, respectively, from the news and entertainment divisions of the establishment press's networks.

Former CBS News reporter Sharyl Attkisson, who is now an independent investiagative journalist, has revealed one reason why Obama's level of claimed ignorance has been so high. It's because he won't look at information he doesn't like, or which doesn't conform to his preconceived notions — even in very serious matters relating to national security. It seems highly unlikely that Attkisson is the only reporter in the nation who has learned this.

Attkisson, on Newsmax TV's Steve Malzberg Show (HT Breitbart), reported that she has been told that Obama refuses to read information about recognized terorrist groups he apparently believes they shouldn't be seen as such:



Transcript, beginning at the 0:26 mark (bolds are mine):

SHARYL ATTKISSON: ... I have talked to people who have worked in the Obama administration who firmly believe he has made up his mind, uh — I would say closed his mind, they say — to their intelligence that they’ve tried to bring him about various groups that he does not consider terrorists, even if they are on the U.S. list of designated terrorists.

He has his own ideas, and there are those who’ve known him a long time who say this dates back to law school. He does not necessarily — you may think this is a good trait you may think this is a bad trait — he does not necessarily listen to the people with whom he disagrees. He seems to dig in. That would be, I would suppose he would say because he thinks he’s right. He is facing formidable opposition on this particular point.

STEVE MALZBERG: So when he stands there and says, as he always does — no matter what the issue, you may notice this, I'm sure as a, as a reporter you may notice this, like I do — no matter what the issue, no matter what the topic, no matter what the press conference, if it's a controversial thing where he's getting pushback on this from anywhere, he'll say, "I'm not the only one who believes this. Everybody believes this." That's a weakness, I think.

But you're telling me that you've talked to people in his inner circle, or in the administration, that are telling you that even though there are groups that might be on our terror list, that are classified as terrorist groups, Obama, in his mind, doesn't consider them to be terrorists. Because what, because they have a gripe?

ATTIKSSON: I don’t know the reason for it. I’ve only been told by those who have allegedly attempted to present him, or have been in the circle that has attempted to present him, with certain intelligence that they said he doesn’t want it. He said he doesn’t want it or he won’t read it, in some instances.

It's one thing to listen to your advisers and overrule them. It's quite another to refuse to listen to them or read their work product because you know that they disagree with you or are presenting information you'd rather not know.

Attkisson is being charitable to a fault to entertain the possiblity that Obama's posture might conceivably be "a good trait." The only reason that could possibly be the case is that you've deliberately surrounded yourself with people you either don't trust or who are complete ignoramuses — and such a situation would also damningly reflect on the guy in charge, because, after all, he's the one who chose an inner circle of lackeys.

It's not unreasonable to believe that there are plenty of reporters on the intelligence beat who know that what Attkisson is saying is true — and won't dare corroborate it because it might jeopardize their precious "access."

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