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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Sherief Shalaby on April 30, 2009, 12:30:46 AM
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yes barbell squats is much better!!..
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Nasser is truly great
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Nasser is truly great
his quads were clearly the best in his time among all the other top pros.. may be they are the best ever after tom platz..
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Shawn Ray's quads were better
(http://www.midwestchristianbodybuilding.com/shawnray1.jpg)(http://www.ifbbpro.com/wp-content/uploads/image/halloffame/ShawnRay1.jpg)
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Yes Nasser had great quads, massive, seperated hamstrings, fullness etc, Dorian i feel had very underated quads as his Massive Back and incredible calves seemed to over shadow the fact his quad mass, hardness, etc was very good, however both their structures are different, and this gives the impression that Dorians quads were somewhat "under parred" when compared to Nassers witch isn,t true, when both their skeltral structures are different, with Nassers more compact shorter leg structure compared to Dorians longer Leg, quad insertions.
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Dorians quads were oddly shaped.
I never liked their look.
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Yes Nasser had great quads, massive, seperated hamstrings, fullness etc, Dorian i feel had very underated quads as his Massive Back and incredible calves seemed to over shadow the fact his quad mass, hardness, etc was very good, however both their structures are different, and this gives the impression that Dorians quads were somewhat "under parred" when compared to Nassers witch isn,t true, when both their skeltral structures are different, with Nassers more compact shorter leg structure compared to Dorians longer Leg, quad insertions.
great post as always johnny.. but dorian himself admitted that the barbell squats is the best but he couldn't do it because of an old back injury he suffered.. so he was forced to use the smith squats!!..
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yes barbell squats is much better!!..
Wonder wheels: the 40 all-time greatest legs
Flex , July, 2005 by Greg Merritt
Guess which one of these guys didn't make the list? ;)
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great post as always johnny.. but dorian himself admitted that the barbell squats is the best but he couldn't do it because of an old back injury he suffered.. so he was forced to use the smith squats!!..
Not exactly true , he built his base on barbell squats and did them for years but came to the conclusion that they really weren't suited for his body style
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You know what you remind me of N.D. ?
When you watch a baseball game and the announcer is such a homer you want to smack him
Same thing applies to the Nassholes
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Wonder wheels: the 40 all-time greatest legs
Flex , July, 2005 by Greg Merritt
Guess which one of these guys didn't make the list? ;)
isn't this the same stupid magazine that placed jay cutler as no. 6 in the list of the best backs ever!! :P
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Not exactly true , he built his base on barbell squats and did them for years but came to the conclusion that they really weren't suited for his body style training intenisty..
fixed.. 8)
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Shawn Ray's quads were better
(http://www.midwestchristianbodybuilding.com/shawnray1.jpg)(http://www.ifbbpro.com/wp-content/uploads/image/halloffame/ShawnRay1.jpg)
you had to support your claim with some comparsions pics!!.. right plates thief?? ;D
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he was clearly better than them all in this area!!
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I love Nasser.
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Does Nasser have bow legs?
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Does Nasser have bow legs?
careful, you may start a jihad
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lil bow bow
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smith squats= 6X olympia
barbell squats (nasser)= 0 olympia
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smith squats= 6X olympia
barbell squats (nasser)= 0 olympia
owned ;D
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fixed.. 8)
So you're claiming Nasser trained with more intensity?
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careful, you may start a jihad
Too late.
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oh shit! it's getting serious now! What a subject title. :D
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That side tricep pose of Nasser is siiickkkkkkkkk!!!!
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You know what you remind me of N.D. ?
When you watch a baseball game and the announcer is such a homer you want to smack him
Same thing applies to the Nassholes
So you want to smack me because of my opinion? sounds logical lol if these threads aggravate you that much why open them?
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Nasser is was truly great
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nasser's quads were much better.
dorian's quads were consistently worse than his main competitors most of the time..
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nasser's quads were much better.
dorian's quads were consistently worse than his main competitors most of the time..
trollster right on cue ::)
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In almost all of these shots Dorian's quads look as big and as cut as his competitors - his quads definitely have a unique shape. When coupled with his calves, I'd say Dorian had excellent wheels.
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In almost all of these shots Dorian's quads look as big and as cut as his competitors - his quads definitely have a unique shape. When coupled with his calves, I'd say Dorian had excellent wheels.
Of course he did , only TROLLS beg to differ . Hulkster doesn't like Flex magazines 40 best quads list which Yates was on , yet the troll will brag about how spot on they are about the backs list ::)
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trollster right on cue ::)
nope. just echoing the opinion of many in the bb community
just the other day someone said dorian's quads looked like they had "radiation poisoning" LOL
and you think they look fantastic LOL ::)
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I'd say these legs are fantastic...
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Who wants to bet a Ronnie comparison comes next....
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nope. just echoing the opinion of many in the bb community
just the other day someone said dorian's quads looked like they had "radiation poisoning" LOL
and you think they look fantastic LOL ::)
depending on the year they absolutely look fantastic and to echo Royalty who's seen Yates live and in person when you said his quads sucked he called you an ' internet fan-boy '
go learn anatomy if you think is quads suck troll
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;)
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Nasser's quads were certainly awesome. I don't think the difference between his and Dorian's has much to do with whether they did barbell squats versus smith squats. Just different shape and structure.
Nasser's calves were also great which gave him equal overall leg development to Dorian. Arguably better.
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nope. just echoing the opinion of many in the bb community
just the other day someone said dorian's quads looked like they had "radiation poisoning" LOL
and you think they look fantastic LOL ::)
Many in the BB community huh? you mean trolls? they don't count ;)
Wonder wheels: the 40 all-time greatest legs
Flex , July, 2005 by Greg Merritt DORIAN YATES
As a winner of six Mr. Olympia titles (1992-1997), Dorian Yates set a new standard for overall size and density in the mid-'90s. From the top of his vastus lateralis to the bottom of his soleus, his legs were thick from every angle. Yates believed in high-intensity training, exhausting his muscles by putting maximum effort into a few focused sets.
SQUAT OR NOT?
"Some people's joints articulate in a manner that allows them to benefit
greatly from squats; others may not benefit at all. If you're not too
tall and have short limbs, it may be the best exercise for you, but if
you're tall with long legs, it might be both ineffective and dangerous.
I was stubbornly faithful to squats for years until I finally realized
they were not well-suited for my body structure. After I switched to
more muscle-intensive movements, my gains in leg size were astounding."
--Dorian Yates
ulian Schmidt on Dorian Yates at the 1992 Mr Olympia
There is NO ONE in the world who can touch Yates. In this show he was a brain-snapping 242 pounds , all of it expertly distributed. Against all the finalist , sensational though they were , Dorian possessed thickness and convexity in his back none can match. Even Levrone's triceps and legs , which had the bodybuilding community aflutter all year , paled in comparison with the same bodyparts on Yates. Where others might also boast size and striations , Dorian dominates them with stratifications as well. It's eerie how far this man takes the human physique
Quote Ironaman Jan 1995 former IFBB Judge Roger Schwab 1994 Mr Olympia
" Best Most Muscular - Yates. When he poses , everything explodes. "
" Best Chest - Yates and Levrone-torn pec and all. "
" Best Legs - Yates from top to bottom "
" Best Back - Yates. He has too much back to be compared. "
Trolls always get corrected by the pros ;) so much for the ' bb community ' lol
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Nasser's quads were certainly awesome. I don't think the difference between his and Dorian's has much to do with whether they did barbell squats versus smith squats. Just different shape and structure.
Nasser's calves were also great which gave him equal overall leg development to Dorian. Arguably better.
Nasser at his best had amazing legs although the heavier he became the more the development of his rectus femoris started to blur overall though his legs were awesome , excellent quads , hams and calves. at his best I'd say he has the edge on quads , yates has the edge on calves and hams probably a split .
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notice ND only posts pics of dorian's inner thighs.. ::)
fact is, dorian's quads were not that great from the front to say the least.
lack seperation, lack cuts. sorry.
but when your quads only look good in one angle, you know you have a deficiency..
they should look good from all angles..and dorian's certainly do not.
Nassers, however, look great from the front as well as other angles.
and no, there will be no ronnie comparison, even though he had better quads than BOTH of them when at his best.. 8)
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Nasser's quads were certainly awesome. I don't think the difference between his and Dorian's has much to do with whether they did barbell squats versus smith squats. Just different shape and structure.
Nasser's calves were also great which gave him equal overall leg development to Dorian. Arguably better.
great post!!.. i agree that the difference between them was not mainly due to the type of squats each one was doing.. but dorian himself said before that the barbell squats is the best but he was forced to use the smith squats due to an old back injury he had suffered.. this clearly shows that he thought with barbell squats he was going to train them harder.. anyway in all cases nasser's quads were going to be better because of his better genetics in this area ;D
actually dorian's legs were great and their best year was 1993.. in 1995 he was in a very good condition but his legs were smaller than they were in 1993.. in 1996 they became smaller than 1995 and a little softer too.. in 1997 and as the rest of him they looked bad (for him)..
as for the stupid flex list of the best legs , I have checked it.. really very stupid and unworthy to be checked!!.. they included matarazo because of his great calves (although he had very average upper legs) and excluded a guy like Nasser who had great quads, hams, and, calves!!.. ironically the same magazine had chosen nasser’s legs as the best in 1996 over dorian, Kevin, shawn, cormier, paul, Ronnie.. etc.. now in the recent list all these guys are mentioned and Nasser is not!!.. how can anyone buy this?..
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Many in the BB community huh? you mean trolls? they don't count ;)
Wonder wheels: the 40 all-time greatest legs
Flex , July, 2005 by Greg Merritt DORIAN YATES
As a winner of six Mr. Olympia titles (1992-1997), Dorian Yates set a new standard for overall size and density in the mid-'90s. From the top of his vastus lateralis to the bottom of his soleus, his legs were thick from every angle. Yates believed in high-intensity training, exhausting his muscles by putting maximum effort into a few focused sets.
SQUAT OR NOT?
"Some people's joints articulate in a manner that allows them to benefit
greatly from squats; others may not benefit at all. If you're not too
tall and have short limbs, it may be the best exercise for you, but if
you're tall with long legs, it might be both ineffective and dangerous.
I was stubbornly faithful to squats for years until I finally realized
they were not well-suited for my body structure. After I switched to
more muscle-intensive movements, my gains in leg size were astounding."
--Dorian Yates
ulian Schmidt on Dorian Yates at the 1992 Mr Olympia
There is NO ONE in the world who can touch Yates. In this show he was a brain-snapping 242 pounds , all of it expertly distributed. Against all the finalist , sensational though they were , Dorian possessed thickness and convexity in his back none can match. Even Levrone's triceps and legs , which had the bodybuilding community aflutter all year , paled in comparison with the same bodyparts on Yates. Where others might also boast size and striations , Dorian dominates them with stratifications as well. It's eerie how far this man takes the human physique
Quote Ironaman Jan 1995 former IFBB Judge Roger Schwab 1994 Mr Olympia
" Best Most Muscular - Yates. When he poses , everything explodes. "
" Best Chest - Yates and Levrone-torn pec and all. "
" Best Legs - Yates from top to bottom "
" Best Back - Yates. He has too much back to be compared. "
Trolls always get corrected by the pros ;) so much for the ' bb community ' lol
Don’t base all your thoughts only on what came in old magazines like a parrot!!..
For example flex magazine said in its review about mr. Olympia 1995 that Kevin was at the exact same condition of 1994 but smaller!!.. in other words they saw him better in 1994 than in 1995!!.. now everybody, a fan or an expert knows well that he was clearly better in 1995 which is considered by many as his best shape ever..
Flex magazine also said in its review about mr. Olympia 1996 that dorian’s left biceps was filled remarkably (due to his great training)!!.. now check the video or the pics to know that his torn biceps was always the same.. and in a separate article the “great” magazine saw that dorian’s version of 1996 was better than in 1995!!.. of course now we all know that in 1995 he was by far better.. dorian himself said after mr. Olympia 1996 that he was better than 1995 but now in his last interview he made with david Robison he considered 1995 as his best year!!.. in one article you read him saying that he stopped barbell squats because he realized they didn’t fit his structure then in another article you read him saying that he did this because of an old back injury!!.. I am not saying that dorian doesn’t say the truth, aside of any hocus pocus here i trust his credibility but may be he changes his opinions and thoughts as any one may do!!.. so don’t take anything you hear or read for granted..
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Nasser at his best had amazing legs although the heavier he became the more the development of his rectus femoris started to blur overall though his legs were awesome , excellent quads , hams and calves. at his best I'd say he has the edge on quads , yates has the edge on calves and hams probably a split .
100% right.. and i believe quads are more important than calves when you talk about legs as a whole.. right??.. ronnie's poor calves didn't cost him anything but imagin if he had poor quads??..
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100% right.. and i believe quads are more important than calves when you talk about legs as a whole.. right??.. ronnie's poor calves didn't cost him anything but imagin if he had poor quads??..
Do you have an education? :-X
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Don’t base all your thoughts only on what came in old magazines like a parrot!!..
but thats all ND has ever done.. :-X
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Check out these quads!
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where's the cuts? the delineation? detail? its non existant.
like many have said - not so good from the front.. :-\
esp. to guys like Nasser, Ronnie, Flex, Shawn and Kevin who have fantastic quads from any angle:
notice: dorian's quads were alway huge, but it was the quality that was lacking, at least in front shots - which is the most common way of viewing them..
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nope. just echoing the opinion of many in the bb community
just the other day someone said dorian's quads looked like they had "radiation poisoning" LOL
and you think they look fantastic LOL ::)
thank you 8)
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thank you 8)
your welcome
correcting delusional nuthuggers is so damn easy 8)
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I love Nasser.
It takes seasoning for a bodybuilding fan to really understand what Nasser is all about. In his prime, Nasser was second to none.
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Dorian had some ugly ass deformed quads, never seen any other quad like them :-X
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your M.M.M. had great quads early in his career only..
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dunno about quads but these hams are pretty amazing
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=267403.0;attach=307425;image)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=267403.0;attach=307426;image)
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So great they got last place Mr Getbig in the bag, slam dunk!
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it wasn't a contest about leg size ;)
No, it was a physique contest and you made last place your bitch ;D
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yep he sure did my friend, some of the best quads I have ever seen, no doubt 8)
but unfortunately after he injured his quad he was not able to have them as big and sharp as in his first years..
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yep
why didn't you enter French Tickler? :)
My only interest in it was the hilarity factor of you coming dead last and then using your million gimmicks to attack the guys who beat you, Mr OX ;D
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Damn right they are 8)
great legs, quads+hams+calves
Why the hate, French Tickler? :)
sure brother you have a very good and complete legs!!.. also in a better lighting they will look better..
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So great they got last place Mr Getbig in the bag, slam dunk!
the guy has good legs specially for someone tall like him.. so why are you jealous??.. if you are a man enough show yours :-X
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he never injured his quads
he injured his back :(
yep, his upper body got alot larger but his lower body got some what smaller than before
and SweetMuscles/French Tickler, you are not too shabby in the gimmick department yourself ;)
thx for the info bro.
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Alex23 doesn't train legs ;)
I don't get why he has all this hate ???
even if he trains them you won't see any diff. because of the thick fat layer covering all his body ;D
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AXA, you still looking after that girl?
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yes plz expose me.. fuck you :)
let's see what this asshole will come with!!
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notice ND only posts pics of dorian's inner thighs.. ::)
fact is, dorian's quads were not that great from the front to say the least.
lack seperation, lack cuts. sorry.
but when your quads only look good in one angle, you know you have a deficiency..
they should look good from all angles..and dorian's certainly do not.
Nassers, however, look great from the front as well as other angles.
and no, there will be no ronnie comparison, even though he had better quads than BOTH of them when at his best.. 8)
It really takes no effort to correct your bullshit , so much for his quads look good in one angle
from the top of his vastus lateralis to the bottom of his soleus, his legs were thick from every angle.
and is this shot of the inner thigh? opppssss nope sorry wrong again ;)
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Don’t base all your thoughts only on what came in old magazines like a parrot!!..
For example flex magazine said in its review about mr. Olympia 1995 that Kevin was at the exact same condition of 1994 but smaller!!.. in other words they saw him better in 1994 than in 1995!!.. now everybody, a fan or an expert knows well that he was clearly better in 1995 which is considered by many as his best shape ever..
Flex magazine also said in its review about mr. Olympia 1996 that dorian’s left biceps was filled remarkably (due to his great training)!!.. now check the video or the pics to know that his torn biceps was always the same.. and in a separate article the “great” magazine saw that dorian’s version of 1996 was better than in 1995!!.. of course now we all know that in 1995 he was by far better.. dorian himself said after mr. Olympia 1996 that he was better than 1995 but now in his last interview he made with david Robison he considered 1995 as his best year!!.. in one article you read him saying that he stopped barbell squats because he realized they didn’t fit his structure then in another article you read him saying that he did this because of an old back injury!!.. I am not saying that dorian doesn’t say the truth, aside of any hocus pocus here i trust his credibility but may be he changes his opinions and thoughts as any one may do!!.. so don’t take anything you hear or read for granted..javascript:void(0);
You missed the point completely not the first time I might add , Hulkster claimed the ' bb community ' felt Dorian had poor quads which is obviously an ignorant statement just based on those quotes alone as well as other non-trolls who seen him in person
Now to address your claim I don't recall Flex saying Levrone was better in 1994 in fact I think they said he looked better in 1995 , in fact the said he was a little soft in the prejudging in 1994 which is why he was placed third behind Shawn Ray
Flex magazine also said in its review about mr. Olympia 1996 that dorian’s left biceps was filled remarkably (due to his great training)!!.. now check the video or the pics to know that his torn biceps was always the same.. and in a separate article the “great” magazine saw that dorian’s version of 1996 was better than in 1995!!.. of course now we all know that in 1995 he was by far better.. dorian himself said after mr. Olympia 1996 that he was better than 1995 but now in his last interview he made with david Robison he considered 1995 as his best year!!..
nowhere does it say ' due to his great training ' you're making shit up now to support your claim
Peter McGough on Dorian at the 1996 Mr Olympia
Dorian Yates : The man was in situ was rock hard . His 257 pounds were augmented by an improved waist taper , His damaged left biceps has filled out remarkably and the only negative is that he could have been fuller in the thighs. But with his blend of size , symmetry , detail and condition , he was equipped to resist every challenge . At 3:25 p.m. as Yates completed the individual mandatories , the fat lady left the dressing room.
I don't know what magazine you're talking about where they claim 1996 was better than 1995 you've been mistaken on a couple of your points so far so it may be the case again on this topic and entertaining it's true Dorian in 1996 was more streamlined with a smaller waist so perhaps they were basing their opinion on that but as a whole 1993 and 1995 are still considered his all time best by him and the general consensus which is accurate and his damaged biceps filled out more so then when it first happened they said the same in 1995 which was true as well
n one article you read him saying that he stopped barbell squats because he realized they didn’t fit his structure then in another article you read him saying that he did this because of an old back injury!!.. I am not saying that dorian doesn’t say the truth, aside of any hocus pocus here i trust his credibility but may be he changes his opinions and thoughts as any one may do!!.. so don’t take anything you hear or read for granted.
Again the catalyst for him stopping traditional squats may have been an injury but the point still stands , he made improvements by not using them and realized they don't fit his structure so his point as usual remains consistent and on the topic of bodybuilding I'll take what experts have to say on the topic over any internet-fan-boy has to say especially considering they were actually there live and in person , and I don't base all of my opinions on just what the magazine says , I based my opinion on what I see and I back up my point with experts something you should try about your claim of Nasser having the next best quads compared to Tom Platz ;)
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but thats all ND has ever done.. :-X
yeah maybe I should just go off the cuff like you and claim how Ronnie's calves are more detailed than Dorians lol no I make a claim and back it up after the fact using experts something you can't do and never have been able to do .
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You missed the point completely not the first time I might add , Hulkster claimed the ' bb community ' felt Dorian had poor quads which is obviously an ignorant statement just based on those quotes alone as well as other non-trolls who seen him in person
Now to address your claim I don't recall Flex saying Levrone was better in 1994 in fact I think they said he looked better in 1995 , in fact the said he was a little soft in the prejudging in 1994 which is why he was placed third behind Shawn Ray
nowhere does it say ' due to his great training ' you're making shit up now to support your claim
Peter McGough on Dorian at the 1996 Mr Olympia
Dorian Yates : The man was in situ was rock hard . His 257 pounds were augmented by an improved waist taper , His damaged left biceps has filled out remarkably and the only negative is that he could have been fuller in the thighs. But with his blend of size , symmetry , detail and condition , he was equipped to resist every challenge . At 3:25 p.m. as Yates completed the individual mandatories , the fat lady left the dressing room.
I don't know what magazine you're talking about where they claim 1996 was better than 1995 you've been mistaken on a couple of your points so far so it may be the case again on this topic and entertaining it's true Dorian in 1996 was more streamlined with a smaller waist so perhaps they were basing their opinion on that but as a whole 1993 and 1995 are still considered his all time best by him and the general consensus which is accurate and his damaged biceps filled out more so then when it first happened they said the same in 1995 which was true as well
Again the catalyst for him stopping traditional squats may have been an injury but the point still stands , he made improvements by not using them and realized they don't fit his structure so his point as usual remains consistent and on the topic of bodybuilding I'll take what experts have to say on the topic over any internet-fan-boy has to say especially considering they were actually there live and in person , and I don't base all of my opinions on just what the magazine says , I based my opinion on what I see and I back up my point with experts something you should try about your claim of Nasser having the next best quads compared to Tom Platz ;)
ok.. so do you have all flex magazines?? i mean in case i referred to some issues supporting what i said would you be able to trace them?? also would you be a man enough to confess you were wrong??.. let me know and then i will refer to the magazines..
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dunno about quads but these hams are pretty amazing
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=267403.0;attach=307425;image)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=267403.0;attach=307426;image)
Fucking hell. Who's this little ugly troll?
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Fucking hell. Who's this little ugly troll?
Conservatively, I'd say about 35 getbiggers
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Conservatively, I'd say about 35 getbiggers
hey kid,.. why haven't you exposed me as you said in your pm??.. ;)
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ND,
check flex march 1997 (page 140) for dorian saying he was better in 1996 than in 1995...
check flex dec. 1995 (page 141) for flex saying kevin was lighter in 1995 than 1994 but not more defined and lacked soem of 94 freakness!!.. but yes they had a plus points for him in 95 for having a better back and chest than 94..
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It really takes no effort to correct your bullshit , so much for his quads look good in one angle
from the top of his vastus lateralis to the bottom of his soleus, his legs were thick from every angle.
and is this shot of the inner thigh? opppssss nope sorry wrong again ;)
yes it is, his inner right quad looks good. look how shitty his left quad looks -why? cause its being wiewed from the front.
you can't win this ND- no matter what bullshit you type, you aren't going to be able to show cuts, detail etc that dorian never had on his quads from the front.
sorry.
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nasser and most had much better quads.
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nasser > yates
end of another great thread from sherief shalaby - 3x uncrowned mod of the positive board ( at least) 8)
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nasser > yates
end of another great thread from sherief shalaby - 3x uncrowned mod of the positive board ( at least) 8)
lol.. hey my friend some assholes here take your jokes about the mod. matter seriously!! ;D
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lol.. hey my friend some assholes here take your jokes about the mod. matter seriously!! ;D
in all seriousness i think you would make a great mod 8)
but yes a few here tend to melt at the thought ;D epic jealousy of your great threads i think.
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lil bow bow
Hahaha :D
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yes it is, his inner right quad looks good. look how shitty his left quad looks -why? cause its being wiewed from the front.
you can't win this ND- no matter what bullshit you type, you aren't going to be able to show cuts, detail etc that dorian never had on his quads from the front.
sorry.
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nasser and most had much better quads.
His left quad was torn jackass he tore that along with the bicep in 1994 no kidding they're not going to look as great as before .
and I already won and why? because you said I posted only pics from the side , which was bullshit and you said then' bb community ' all feel Dorian had poor quads which is again bullshit , I posted many quotes from IFBB judges and writers proving once again YOU don't know what the fuck you're talking about .
to cling to the Flex magazine when they say Ronnie has the best back yet say they're wrong when they say Yates has among the best LEGS lol epic hypocrite ha ha ha ha ha and a internet-fan-boy
Among the best LEGS ever ;)
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ND,
check flex march 1997 (page 140) for dorian saying he was better in 1996 than in 1995...
check flex dec. 1995 (page 141) for flex saying kevin was lighter in 1995 than 1994 but not more defined and lacked soem of 94 freakness!!.. but yes they had a plus points for him in 95 for having a better back and chest than 94..
post the quote in it's entirety , don't omit anything
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LOL if dorian said that he is just as delusional as the nuthuggers that post about him.. ::)
dorian was terrible in 1996. even his upper back was soft, an area that was traditionally dry as a bone for him
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post the quote in it's entirety , don't omit anything
as i told you dorian lied to himself and thought he was better in 96 than in 95 but now after he retired and can see things better he changed his words and said that 95 was his best ever!!..
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as i told you dorian lied to himself and thought he was better in 96 than in 95 but now after he retired and can see things better he changed his words and said that 95 was his best ever!!..
LMAO you told me he lied to himself ::) no maybe he was thinking better for different reasons it happens , Ronnie said he was better in 1999 than 1998 and after reflecting on his career he said he was better in 1998 because his conditioning was better it doesn't mean he was lying to himself , there may have been things he liked better from one year to the next but when stepped back from the situation he can put things into prospective .
you're reaching when you say he was lying to himself , you're not working with much . Dorian is one of the more honest and objective Pros which is why he's a judge .
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LOL if dorian said that he is just as delusional as the nuthuggers that post about him.. ::)
dorian was terrible in 1996. even his upper back was soft, an area that was traditionally dry as a bone for him
i see dorian's 6 olympia victories as follows:
1- 1993
2- 1995
3- 1992
4- 1994
5- 1996 (didnt deserve to win)
6- 1997 (didnt deserve to be in the top 3)
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there may have been things he liked better from one year to the next but when stepped back from the situation he can put things into prospective .
or he can look back on a foggy memory and forget, as what happened there. 99>> 98.
reality shows he was right the first time. sorry.
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LMAO you told me he lied to himself ::) no maybe he was thinking better for different reasons it happens , Ronnie said he was better in 1999 than 1998 and after reflecting on his career he said he was better in 1998 because his conditioning was better it doesn't mean he was lying to himself , there may have been things he liked better from one year to the next but when stepped back from the situation he can put things into prospective .
you're reaching when you say he was lying to himself , you're not working with much . Dorian is one of the more honest and objective Pros which is why he's a judge .
don’t be an idiot, i already said that i trust his credibility.. i didn’t say he was a liar i meant he was trying to convince himself by something!!.. this is not a bad thing,.. we all do this.. what is your problem?!..
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LOL if dorian said that he is just as delusional as the nuthuggers that post about him.. ::)
dorian was terrible in 1996. even his upper back was soft, an area that was traditionally dry as a bone for him
It honestly never ceases to amaze me how little you know about competitive bodybuilding lol I laugh when you commit to statements because they always come back to haunt you
his back is under NO circumstances ' soft ' it's hard as nails and dry as fuck , you can clearly see the separation and depth of all the muscles of the back , you post a single picture and make a declaration as if it's law lol using your logic we can say Ronnie is ' soft ' in this pic because of this pic which is total bullshit , these are all 1996 troll ;)
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don’t be an idiot, i already said that i trust his credibility.. i didn’t say he was a liar i meant he was trying to convince himself by something!!.. this is not a bad thing,.. we all do this.. what is your problem?!..
NO you did say he was lying to himself I don't care what you meant , I can only go by what you typed , type what you mean this helps ;)
And how about proving this claim that Nasser has the second best quads behind Platz ? ;D
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It honestly never ceases to amaze me how little you know about competitive bodybuilding lol I laugh when you commit to statements because they always come back to haunt you
his back is under NO circumstances ' soft ' it's hard as nails and dry as fuck , you can clearly see the separation and depth of all the muscles of the back , you post a single picture and make a declaration as if it's law lol using your logic we can say Ronnie is ' soft ' in this pic because of this pic which is total bullshit , these are all 1996 troll ;)
funny you are posting dorian 1996 pictures showing him posing alone!!.. post some comparisons pics!!
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or he can look back on a foggy memory and forget, as what happened there. 99>> 98.
reality shows he was right the first time. sorry.
What's funny is the experts concur about 1998 ;) which is exactly why 1999 is NOT considered his peak showing by ANYONE over the span of his whole career
2001 he was 247 pounds and it's considered his prime showing , if as you say he was just as conditioned as he was in 01 with 10 more pounds and more fullness this would be his prime showing and it's not lol something you still can't prove ;)
that's the difference between you and I , I prove my points using experts YOU make shit up and deny the experts lol
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funny you are posting dorian 1996 pictures showing him posing alone!!.. post some comparisons pics!!
wow another one right over your head ::) he said his back was soft in 1996 hence the BACK pictures
and Dorian destroyed Nasser in 1996 there was NO contest , he came close in 1997 1996 he lost flat out.
' comparison pics ' ;)
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wow another one right over your head ::) he said his back was soft in 1996 hence the BACK pictures
and Dorian destroyed Nasser in 1996 there was NO contest , he came close in 1997 1996 he lost flat out.
' comparison pics ' ;)
hahhahaha do you save only back pics of dorian in your pc??.. where are the front shots??.. sure dorian was the best from the rear but from the front nasser was MUCH better than him specially in 96 and 97.. actuallu in 97 i use your same word there was NO CONTEST..
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hahhahaha do you save only back pics of dorian in your pc??.. where are the front shots??.. sure dorian was the best from the rear but from the front nasser was MUCH better than him specially in 96 and 97.. actuallu in 97 i use your same word there was NO CONTEST..
did I not post a front latspread? did I not? Dorian himself said Nasser could match or even beat him in some shots from the front ( is he lying to himself there too? ;) ) I've always maintained Nasser is very comparable in the front and depending on the year better , however contests aren't just judged from the front or even the back but from all angles and guess who always came out on top? ;) the judges agree with my opinion ;D
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did I not post a front latspread? did I not? Dorian himself said Nasser could match or even beat him in some shots from the front ( is he lying to himself there too? ;) ) I've always maintained Nasser is very comparable in the front and depending on the year better , however contests aren't just judged from the front or even the back but from all angles and guess who always came out on top? ;) the judges agree with my opinion ;D
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2001, the holy grail, and Ronnie looking like something I shit out in my toilet this morning haha
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=278023.0;attach=317825;image)
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I prove my points using experts YOU make shit up and deny the experts lol
so now you you are saying Ronnie is not an expert? ::)
sorry bud. Ronnie himself stated he was better in 99 with better conditioning than 98, and the contest videos and pics corroborate this.
there is nothing more to be said.
as far as the AC goes, yes that was probably the best conditioned he has ever been. BUT in 99 he was 98% of that conditioning and 10 pounds bigger..
which is better?
its a toss up:
99 GP vs 01 AC:
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really the only pose i give to dorian over nasser on that day is the rear lat spread!!..
nasser with his better hams and much better and bigger shoulders and arms was better in the fdb, specially dorian's back was farway from its best!!..
as for the rest of the poses there was no contest!
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2001, the holy grail, and Ronnie looking like something I shit out in my toilet this morning haha
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=278023.0;attach=317825;image)
the holy grail, looking like something dorian or nasser never match let alone could beat: :P
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This is bodybuilding perfection.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=278023.0;attach=317820;image)
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one of Dorian actually tensed while standing relaxed from the front notice a difference?
front double biceps Nasser easily
front latspread Dorian
side chest Dorian , Nasser doesn't even know how to hit the shot correctly
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This is bodybuilding perfection.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=278023.0;attach=317820;image)
too bad this pic has about the same number of believers on getbig..haha
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the holy grail, looking like something dorian or nasser never match let alone could beat: :P
We knew the Ronnie pics were coming ::)
Trollster at it again
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too bad this pic has about the same number of believers on getbig..haha
ha ha ha meltdown whenever a great Yates pic surfaces Trollster cries fake
Those quads kill Nasser and Ronnie light ;)
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Damn, Dorian is making Nasser look like a creme puff here. This is a great picture showing Yates' superior condition and hardness. There isn't even much to say about that side tricep shot except that it's very embarrassing for both Nasser and Dillet.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=278023.0;attach=317858;image)
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It honestly never ceases to amaze me how little you know about competitive bodybuilding lol I laugh when you commit to statements because they always come back to haunt you
his back is under NO circumstances ' soft ' it's hard as nails and dry as fuck , you can clearly see the separation and depth of all the muscles of the back , you post a single picture and make a declaration as if it's law lol using your logic we can say Ronnie is ' soft ' in this pic because of this pic which is total bullshit , these are all 1996 troll ;)
the shot I posted was from the 96 GP genius where dorian was soft as fuck
not the olympia ::)
man, aren't you glad I am here to correct you?
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so now you you are saying Ronnie is not an expert? ::)
sorry bud. Ronnie himself stated he was better in 99 with better conditioning than 98, and the contest videos and pics corroborate this.
there is nothing more to be said.
as far as the AC goes, yes that was probably the best conditioned he has ever been. BUT in 99 he was 98% of that conditioning and 10 pounds bigger..
which is better?
its a toss up:
99 GP vs 01 AC:
Ronnie himself said on Special Ed's show 1998 was his best Olympia sorry dummy this coincides with what the experts say like McGough , Perine , etc ;)
99 GP? good luck with that one , ever wonder why you can't get the experts to agree with you? because you don't know what the fuck you're talking about lol
And Ronnie wasn't an expert when he said Dorian would beat him lol sucker or he had the best side chest and freakiest back NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooo oooooooooooooo you nutthiggers said he's flat out wrong lol owned
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ha ha ha meltdown whenever a great Yates pic surfaces Trollster cries fake
Those quads kill Nasser and Ronnie light ;)
wrong. most of getbig knows it was morphed as posted on bb.com - or dont you remember all the discussions.. ::)
its only in the modern age of photoshopping that they could look like that. sorry.
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the shot I posted was from the 96 GP genius where dorian was soft as fuck
not the olympia ::)
man, aren't you glad I am here to correct you?
YOU said 1996 YOU didn't say GP and soft as fuck? LMFAO try finding a quote to back up that statement and good luck kid you'll need it ;)
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99 GP? good luck with that one
don't need luck when reality is right here:
sorry: he looked great at the 99 GP
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YOU said 1996 YOU didn't say GP
haha ND backpeddling cause I corrected him as always :P
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wrong. most of getbig knows it was morphed as posted on bb.com - or dont you remember all the discussions.. ::)
its only in the modern age of photoshopping that they could look like that. sorry.
Yes all the nutt-huggers cried ' fake ' until the photographer corrected YOU ;) you cried morphed it crushed you and said it is untouched
whenever a great Yates pic surfaces it's fake lol
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Hulkster, stop rambling. The Dorian pic isn't fake. Please accept it.
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unmatched condition and hardness
(http://www.giantpt.com/Training/Afbeeldingen/Onderarmen03.jpg)
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haha ND backpeddling cause I corrected him as always :P
Ha ha ha who's backpeddling? you are .....you now have to amend it to 1996 GP
Again find me the quote that says Dorian was ' soft ' from this contest it should be easy lol Dorian didn't do soft that was Ronnie for most of his career
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Hulkster, stop rambling. The Dorian pic isn't fake. Please accept it.
your just upset because its your avatar lol
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don't need luck when reality is right here:
sorry: he looked great at the 99 GP
You'll get no argument from me , he looked great ...his best ever? SORRY don't tell me it's his prime prove to me it's his prime and good luck ;)
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whenever a great Yates pic surfaces it's fake lol
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oh the irony of this statement coming from the nuthuggers. remember the 99 olympia pics/vids anyone?... ::) ::) ::)
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oh the irony of this statement coming from the nuthuggers. remember the 99 olympia pics/vids anyone?... ::) ::) ::)
Ha ha ha we proved those were fake NOW prove the pic is ;)
Trollster can't back up any of his claims what so ever as usual ;D
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Hulkster, stop rambling. The Dorian pic isn't fake. Please accept it.
please accept reality 8):
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What's the reality to accept?
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please accept reality 8):
Reality? top pic 1994 proven
bottom pic 1995 proven
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unmatched condition and hardness
(http://www.giantpt.com/Training/Afbeeldingen/Onderarmen03.jpg)
That's an awesome side chest , just textbook
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Reality? top pic 1994 proven
bottom pic 1995 proven
sorry, even dorian himself didn't know when the pic was taken, he didn't even know where it was taken.
look closely at the two shots -the hair, the position of dorian in relation to the backdrop - this is the giveaway - if you look at the pattern of light and dark patches in relation to dorian's body, they are EXACTLY the same. EXACTLY. to achieve that one year later is not possible. sorry.
they were not taken one year apart. that much is quite clear.
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Damn, Dorian is making Nasser look like a creme puff here. This is a great picture showing Yates' superior condition and hardness. There isn't even much to say about that side tricep shot except that it's very embarrassing for both Nasser and Dillet.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=278023.0;attach=317858;image)
in this pose and in this certain pic. the side of nasser's leg is clearly bigger and better than dorian's.. his chest is clearly bigger and better.. and of course the same with his shoulders.. what else anyone has to look at in this pose??.. nasser's owns dorian here and if you think anything else you have to go to your eye doctor!!.. come on man, put your blind love to dorian aside and check the shot neutrally!!
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nasser has better quads/hams than dorian did.
but dorian had better calves, although nassers were pretty awesome.
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sorry, even dorian himself didn't know when the pic was taken, he didn't even know where it was taken.
look closely at the two shots -the hair, the position of dorian in relation to the backdrop etc.
they were not taken one year apart. that much is quite clear.
Hulkster of course he didn't know what year it was at that point he didn't even see it , Kevin Horton took the photo and it always maintained there were pics of Dorian at what he felt is his best right before 1995 , the front double biceps shot is 1994 I proved that , you're calling Horton a liar if you say the pic is from 1994 and morphed and we all know he crushed you before lol
front double biceps shot 1994
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nasser has better quads/hams than dorian did.
but dorian had better calves, although nassers were pretty awesome.
agree with 100%..
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in this pose and in this certain pic. the side of nasser's leg is clearly bigger and better than dorian's.. his chest is clearly bigger and better.. and of course the same with his shoulders.. what else anyone has to look at in this pose??.. nasser's owns dorian here and if you think anything else you have to go to your eye doctor!!.. come on man, put your blind love to dorian aside and check the shot neutrally!!
Dorian is crushing Nasser in that shot , from the side Nasser was ho-hum compared to Dorian even at his worse never mind at his best
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Kai Greene beats Coleman...
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=277536.0;attach=317018;image)
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you're calling Horton a liar
nope. he's not lying at all. just mistaken.
if you understood english you would understand the distinction.. :-\
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in this pose and in this certain pic. the side of nasser's leg is clearly bigger and better than dorian's.. his chest is clearly bigger and better.. and of course the same with his shoulders.. what else anyone has to look at in this pose??.. nasser's owns dorian here and if you think anything else you have to go to your eye doctor!!.. come on man, put your blind love to dorian aside and check the shot neutrally!!
I suppose he's beating Yates here too? lol.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=278023.0;attach=317859;image)
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nope. he's not lying at all. just mistaken.
if you understood english you would understand the distinction.. :-\
Says YOU don't say he's mistaken PROVE he's mistaken lol you can't do it as usual
Trollster makes claims and NEVER backs them up . ;)
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Hey guys I watched the pre judging of the 1993 Olympia and Dorian possessed a quality which none of the other competitors had.
He had a certain density and hardness and 'thin skin' I had never seen before. He had an "x factor" I can't explain... this made him look FAR beyond any other competitor he stepped on stage with. I can see why he won with the torn muscles etc.
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Yes, Kevin Horton, a professional photographer is "mistaken" ::)
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Hey guys I watched the pre judging of the 1993 Olympia and Dorian possessed a quality which none of the other competitors had.
He had a certain density and hardness and 'thin skin' I had never seen before. He had an "x factor" I can't explain... this made him look FAR beyond any other competitor he stepped on stage with. I can see why he won with the torn muscles etc.
Samir Bannout, Mr. Olympia, "Dorian got 1st, 2nd, and 3rd" and that's against a Flex that was BETTER than the 98 version that Ronnie BARELY beat ;)
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I suppose he's beating Yates here too? lol.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=278023.0;attach=317859;image)
yes of course.. better and bigger legs, shoulders, chest, &, abs.. equally good triceps.. dorian was only better here in the calves area.. but i believe that dorian's great calves killed the proportion with his upper legs in 1996 and 1997.. so his great calves worked against him in these 2 years.. nasser's calves although great and from the best ever were not like dorian's but always went in a very good proportion with his upper legs..
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Hulkster, please give it a rest. The pic is real. Dorian was just that good. Just as Ronnie was really good, Dorian was really good.
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I suppose he's beating Yates here too? lol.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=278023.0;attach=317859;image)
They can pat themselves on the back for supposed better parts but Dorian the Master of the Mandatories destroys their heros when the pose is struck
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Hey guys I watched the pre judging of the 1993 Olympia and Dorian possessed a quality which none of the other competitors had.
He had a certain density and hardness and 'thin skin' I had never seen before. He had an "x factor" I can't explain... this made him look FAR beyond any other competitor he stepped on stage with. I can see why he won with the torn muscles etc.
i have the 1992 Olympia and I came to the same conclusion.
The man is made out of rock, he has that paper sandpaper skin which makes other competitors look soft even though their seperation is superiour (Levrone).
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Says YOU don't say he's mistaken PROVE he's mistaken lol you can't do it as usual
Trollster makes claims and NEVER backs them up . ;)
wrong. the relation of dorian to the pattern on the back drop (light/darker patches) proves it quite nicely. look:
not to mention the curls on dorian's head.
it was not one year apart:
I don't really give a shit when the pics were taken, but to say they were taken one year apart given the consistencies in the photos is a little far fetched. as many getbiggers pointed out and you ignored..
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yes of course.. better and bigger legs, shoulders, chest, &, abs.. equally good triceps.. dorian was only better here in the calves area.. but i believe that dorian's great calves killed the proportion with his upper legs in 1996 and 1997.. so his great calves worked against him in these 2 years.. nasser's calves although great and from the best ever were not like dorian's but always went in a very good proportion with his upper legs..
Yeah it really worked against him he won both contests lol
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Hey guys I watched the pre judging of the 1993 Olympia and Dorian possessed a quality which none of the other competitors had.
He had a certain density and hardness and 'thin skin' I had never seen before. He had an "x factor" I can't explain... this made him look FAR beyond any other competitor he stepped on stage with. I can see why he won with the torn muscles etc.
but in 1993 he didnt have torn muscles!!.. i have the mr. o. 97 video, his totally torn left arms made him look deformed all the time..
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Hulkster, please give it a rest. The pic is real. Dorian was just that good. Just as Ronnie was really good, Dorian was really good.
no one is saying dorian wasn't good. but facts are facts.
even at 300 pounds dorian didn't have that quad sweep
sorry to burst your bubble.
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wrong. the relation of dorian to the pattern on the back drop (light/darker patches) proves it quite nicely. look:
not to mention the curls on dorian's head.
it was not one year apart:
I don't really give a shit when the pics were taken, but to say they were taken one year apart given the consistencies in the photos is a little far fetched. as many getbiggers pointed out and you ignored..
His hair is different in both pics ;) and again don't say he's mistaken PROVE IT I proved that front double biceps shot is from 1994 , prove that front latspread is from 1994 and morphed , we're all waiting on you to provide proof as usual
I'm still waiting for proof Ronnie has more detailed calves too ;)
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wrong. the relation of dorian to the pattern on the back drop (light/darker patches) proves it quite nicely. look:
not to mention the curls on dorian's head.
it was not one year apart:
I don't really give a shit when the pics were taken, but to say they were taken one year apart given the consistencies in the photos is a little far fetched. as many getbiggers pointed out and you ignored..
you idiot, the hair is different. Look at the hairline. On the bottom picture it's flat, whereas it's slanted on the top one. Just because it's the same background means nothing. Kevin probably used it from year to year.
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Dorian wins from the side...
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no one is saying dorian wasn't good. but facts are facts.
even at 300 pounds dorian didn't have that quad sweep
sorry to burst your bubble.
ha ha ha ha no one wasn't saying Dorian wasn't good , Trollster is forced to back peddle now YOU personally claimed Dorian is the most overrated bodybuilder of ALL TIME stop trying to act like you're not a troll seriously
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Dorian wins from the side...
with ease
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and how come nd sees dorian better here!!.. explain plz if you have something logical to say!!..
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and how come nd sees dorian better here!!.. explain plz if you have something logical to say!!..
he wasn't
1997 was a gift for dorian.
even ND has stated that dorian should not have won many many times.
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you idiot, the hair is different. Look at the hairline. On the bottom picture it's flat, whereas it's slanted on the top one. Just because it's the same background means nothing. Kevin probably used it from year to year.
he knows it's not the same he's crushed that Ronnie doesn't even beat Dorian on quads in that pic or taper so he cries fake even after Kevin Horton corrected him .
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You guys need to stop.. Seriously.
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Dorian wins from the side...
no he doesn't!!
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he wasn't
1997 was a gift for dorian.
even ND has stated that dorian should not have won many many times.
Dorian beats Nasser in that particular pose , as well as the side chest , side triceps 1/4 turns and any back shot in 1997 , Nasser beats Dorian in standing relaxed from the front , ab-thigh , front double biceps shot and I personally don't think Dorian should have won in 1997 but Nasser didn't beat him ;)
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no he doesn't!!
yes he does
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no he doesn't!!
the judges thought otherwise , notice you're always in stark contrast to them , what does that tell us? ;)
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You guys need to stop.. Seriously.
If only someone could broker a truce between these two.
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Dorian beats Nasser in that particular pose , as well as the side chest , side triceps 1/4 turns and any back shot in 1997 , Nasser beats Dorian in standing relaxed from the front , ab-thigh , front double biceps shot and I personally don't think Dorian should have won in 1997 but Nasser didn't beat him ;)
I asked you to explain logically how do you see dorian better in this particular shot.. now you are answering generally saying … dorian was better in the front lat spread…. What is this???..
As for the 1/4 turn, how come to give dorian the turn that showed his left side??.. how to give it to him with his totally missing arm?..
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I asked you to explain logically how do you see dorian better in this particular shot.. now you are answering generally saying … dorian was better in the front lat spread…. What is this???..
As for the 1/4 turn, how come to give dorian the turn that showed his left side??.. how to give it to him with his totally missing arm?..
I've explained many times why Dorian is better than Nasser in this particular pose and I don't care to again and why? because you've already made up your mind . think what you like again it's always in stark contrast to what the judges seen , a common theme among the people who heros Dorian crushed
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the judges thought otherwise , notice you're always in stark contrast to them , what does that tell us? ;)
It’s funny that when you have something to say you speak logically but when you have nothing to say or let’s say when you feel that I am right or H is right you just say “the judges”!!.. those “judges” made jay beat victor in 2007!! Yes they sometimes make mistakes!
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If only someone could broker a truce between these two.
truces are for cowardly pussies
thats why ND called for one..
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It’s funny that when you have something to say you speak logically but when you have nothing to say or let’s say when you feel that I am right or H is right you just say “the judges”!!.. those “judges” made jay beat victor in 2007!! Yes they sometimes make mistakes!
shhh..don't ruin ND's delusional fantasy about the IFBB judges..shhh..
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It’s funny that when you have something to say you speak logically but when you have nothing to say or let’s say when you feel that I am right or H is right you just say “the judges”!!.. those “judges” made jay beat victor in 2007!! Yes they sometimes make mistakes!
I've said it ALL there isn't a question that YOU , Bigbobs , Hulkster , pumpster , Neoseminole , iceman , or anyone else that hasn't asked that I have not logically responded to a MILLION times over lol I've said it all
You're not right and why? you weren't there and you're not a judge you're to wrapped up in Nasser emotionally to separate your personal preference from reality , same with Hulkster that's why you keep making these treads about Dorian and Nasser and Ronnie , you're trying to convince everyone he was better and in the end he wasn't and that reality , if you say the judging is wrong than it was wrong in every single contest Nasser won you can't have it both ways
Dorian beat your hero year in and year out , just like Hulkster all you can do is cry , but don't let me stop you . boo-hoo on ;)
Dorian beat your hero it's that simple
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It's tough to argue that in 1997 a best ever Nasser didn't deserve to beat a worst ever Dorian. That FLS comparison shows just how huge Nasser was that year! However, I think Dorian wins from the side and from the back and that is why he won. Nasser was awesome that year though and a strong case can be make that he should have won!
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truces are for cowardly pussies
thats why ND called for one..
ha ha ha ha and I crushed you in it and beat you soundly using your own hero to boot lol
Special Ed : Ronnie of Dorian competed in 1998 would you have smoked him?
Ronnie Coleman : NO I think he would have kept on winning as long as he competed I don't think he would have lost.
Taken out of FLEX nov 1999, page 90. interview by jim schmaltz with ronnie before the 99 Olympia.
Jim: What would have happened last year if Dorian Yates (recently retired winner of 6 straight Mr. Olympias) had competed?
Ronnie: Dorian would have won again.
Jim: You think so?
Ronnie: I know so.
Hulkster GetBig he knows more than you and more than McGough ever will about his own physique..
fucking OWNED kid ;) no truce needed Ronnie kicked your ass ;)
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shhh..don't ruin ND's delusional fantasy about the IFBB judges..shhh..
No the judging only works when YOU agree with it ::) 2001 was fair & square and Dorian should have lost to Flex in 93 lol
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It's tough to argue that in 1997 a best ever Nasser didn't deserve to beat a worst ever Dorian. That FLS comparison shows just how huge Nasser was that year! However, I think Dorian wins from the side and from the back and that is why he won. Nasser was awesome that year though and a could case can be make that he should have won!
Lets give Nasser 1997 Mr Olympia contest , that would mean what? he beat Dorian at his worse lmfao this is something to harp about? this is something to brag about to be proud of? Dorian wipes the floor with him at his best so it's moot all the way anyway .
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I've said it ALL there isn't a question that YOU , Bigbobs , Hulkster , pumpster , Neoseminole , iceman , or anyone else that hasn't asked that I have not logically responded to a MILLION times over lol I've said it all
You're not right and why? you weren't there and you're not a judge you're to wrapped up in Nasser emotionally to separate your personal preference from reality , same with Hulkster that's why you keep making these treads about Dorian and Nasser and Ronnie , you're trying to convince everyone he was better and in the end he wasn't and that reality , if you say the judging is wrong than it was wrong in every single contest Nasser won you can't have it both ways
Dorian beat your hero year in and year out , just like Hulkster all you can do is cry , but don't let me stop you . boo-hoo on ;)
Dorian beat your hero it's that simple
hopeless case.. again you answer ''generally'' when you have nothing to say about a ''certain'' thing ::)
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hopeless case.. again you answer ''generally'' when you have nothing to say about a ''certain'' thing ::)
hopeless case? still waiting for you to explain how his quads are second behind only Tom Platz ;) and again I've explained a billion times I don't care if you want me to explain it again , do a search if you're that interested
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hopeless case? still waiting for you to explain how his quads are second behind only Tom Platz ;) and again I've explained a billion times I don't care if you want me to explain it again , do a search if you're that interested
no thx i am not that interested.. in my opinion nasser's quads at his best were great in terms of shape, size, and, definition.. there are a lot of top pros who has/had huge quads but their quads don’t look good (shape) or are not defined well (definition).. the only guy whose quads had everything better than Nasser is tom platz.. again this is my own opinion and I may be wrong!..
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no thx i am not that interested.. in my opinion nasser's quads at his best were great in terms of shape, size, and, definition.. there are a lot of top pros who has/had huge quads but their quads don’t look good (shape) or are not defined well (definition).. the only guy whose quads had everything better than Nasser is tom platz.. again this is my own opinion and I may be wrong!..
And your opinion of contradicts those experts and judges :D
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And your opinion of contradicts those experts and judges :D
lol ok.. but your experts contradict themselves.. in the 90s when Nasser was always the crowds favorite, they gave him what he deserved and chose his quads as the best over all the other top pros but now they have put all these other top pros in the list and excluded nasser!!..
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lol ok.. but your experts contradict themselves.. in the 90s when Nasser was always the crowds favorite, they gave him what he deserved and chose his quads as the best over all the other top pros but now they have put all these other top pros in the list and excluded nasser!!..
How did the judges contradict themselves? or writers? I already said I think Nasser has the edge i quads over Yates not by much but an edge
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And your opinion of contradicts those experts and judges :D
Which means?? What defines a bodybuilding "expert"? What are the qualifications for judging a show?
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How did the judges contradict themselves? or writers? I already said I think Nasser has the edge i quads over Yates not by much but an edge
ND - who do you think has the best physique of all time and why do you think so?
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How did the judges contradict themselves? or writers? I already said I think Nasser has the edge i quads over Yates not by much but an edge
so you agree that it was BS not to include nasser in that wheels list?..
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ND - who do you think has the best physique of all time and why do you think so?
wait till he checks his old magazines to get the experts opinions ::)
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Which means?? What defines a bodybuilding "expert"? What are the qualifications for judging a show?
Depends on which show , contests like the Olympia and Arnold only proven judges who have judged for years are allowed to judge these shows , judges who have proven themselves consistent and objective , guys who have cut their teeth on a National and Pro level for years . judges who's opinion vary dramatically from the other are removed and judges have to qualify to judge contests I forget all of the qualifications other than the ones I said but it's more than that and a thankless job needless to say.
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ND - who do you think has the best physique of all time and why do you think so?
To hard to pick to many come to mind , Samir Bannout 1983 , Steve Reeves , Flex 1993 , Frank Zane , Bob Paris this is just from a personal preference
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wait till he checks his old magazines to get the experts opinions ::)
No I have what I think is the best and what would win a contest they are two separate things , I was confused as hell how Dorian beat Flex in 1993 , I said " NO WAY IN HELL Yates beats Flex " I was wrong , Dorian met the criteria better than Flex , I didn't say the contest was fixed or Flex was robbed I came to the conclusion he was simply off condition wise and was down size compared to Yates , I do feel Flex 1993 ASC would beat any Dorian despite being smaller and maybe a tad less sharp , Dorian felt Flex was the only person who could give him trouble
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so you agree that it was BS not to include nasser in that wheels list?..
he got an honorable mention , but those lists are just that something to get people talking , I personally don't think Dorian's quads were much better than Nasser , I think Nasser has the edge at his best
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Bob Paris this is just from a personal sexual preference
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Coming from the guy who compares Ronnie's ass from one year the next , we all know what's on your mind.