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Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
« Reply #125 on: October 06, 2015, 02:33:52 PM »
Don't even know what that means, and I'm certainly not reading all that nonsense to find out.

Wow! So its nonsense that the American police have a code of silence? What a fucking phony you are...

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Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
« Reply #126 on: October 06, 2015, 02:35:56 PM »
Wikipedia.. nice

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Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
« Reply #127 on: October 06, 2015, 02:37:59 PM »
Wow! So its nonsense that the American police have a code of silence? What a fucking phony you are...

Probably shock you that the vast majority of complaints against officers originate from within the department here..

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Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
« Reply #128 on: October 06, 2015, 02:38:19 PM »
This whole thread is a false flag. To get us talking about "false flags", so when something happens, it can be used as red herring of sorts.

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Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
« Reply #129 on: October 06, 2015, 02:38:26 PM »
Wikipedia.. nice

Here is a study

International Association of Chiefs about what police recruits believe.

Done by The National Institute of Ethics

Fact revealed

http://www.aele.org/loscode2000.html

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Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
« Reply #130 on: October 06, 2015, 02:45:50 PM »
Probably shock you that the vast majority of complaints against officers originate from within the department here..

No it doesn't shock me. But the vast majority of complaints against officers go unreported.

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Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
« Reply #131 on: October 06, 2015, 02:48:25 PM »
No it doesn't shock me. But the vast majority of complaints against officers go unreported.

how can we fix it then? How do we know what isn't reported? if not reported or investigated, how do we know it was an issue?

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Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
« Reply #132 on: October 06, 2015, 02:51:49 PM »
Here is a study

International Association of Chiefs about what police recruits believe.

Done by The National Institute of Ethics

Fact revealed

http://www.aele.org/loscode2000.html

Policing has come a long way in 15 years. I've seen the "blue wall" fall apart brick by brick in the last 22 years I've been at this department to the point only the foundation of the wall still exists. The blue wall perception at least here, is way overblown. Which is why the majority of IA complaints originated with officers rather than citizens.   

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Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
« Reply #133 on: October 06, 2015, 02:53:50 PM »
Wow! So its nonsense that the American police have a code of silence? What a fucking phony you are...

Nonsense as in 1000 words of don't care/ain't reading. Not sure how "phony" applies, but not so horrible coming from you. Ever read your posts?

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Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
« Reply #134 on: October 06, 2015, 03:01:09 PM »
"False flag (or black flag) describes covert operations designed to deceive in such a way that the operations appear as though they are being carried out by entities, groups, or nations other than those who actually planned and executed them."

It's not that people believe the victims are still alive or that it didn't really happen, on the contrary, it's believed that the event is not due to some outside factor but an internal one which is used to drive an agenda.  There are well documented incidents throughout the history of the US government perpetrating false flag operations against itself to push propaganda or agendas.

http://www.nytimes.com/library/world/mideast/041600iran-cia-index.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Ajax

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Army_Field_Manual_30-31B

http://web.archive.org/web/20051130003012/http://www.isn.ethz.ch/php/documents/collection_gladio/synopsis.htm

http://www.wanttoknow.info/010501operationnorthwoods

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=92662&page=1

http://articles.latimes.com/2005/jan/11/opinion/oe-scheer11

http://www.wanttoknow.info/documents/false_flag_brzezinski_testimony.pdf

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http://www.wanttoknow.info/911/9-11-facts#binladenkidney
http://www.wired.com/news/conflict/0,2100,47109,00.html
http://www.wanttoknow.info/a-bin-laden-most-wanted-embassy-bombings
http://www.wanttoknow.info/911newsarticles-0-10000#article_1416

An assortment of verified and admitted false flag attacks carried out by various countries throughout recent history:

http://www.globalresearch.ca/53-admitted-false-flag-attacks/5432931


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Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
« Reply #135 on: October 06, 2015, 03:03:48 PM »
well, some people DO believe they used actors... it was a stage.. 

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Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
« Reply #136 on: October 06, 2015, 03:11:17 PM »
well, some people DO believe they used actors... it was a stage.. 

The possibility that actors were used in some instances after the fact isn't out of the question.  There's the infamous Sandy Hook video of one of the supposed victims fathers who was on camera laughing and smiling before his interview, takes a pause to generate tears and get into "character" and then does the interview.

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Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
« Reply #137 on: October 06, 2015, 03:12:40 PM »
The possibility that actors were used in some instances after the fact isn't out of the question.  There's the infamous Sandy Hook video of one of the supposed victims fathers who was on camera laughing and smiling before his interview, takes a pause to generate tears and get into "character" and then does the interview.


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Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
« Reply #138 on: October 06, 2015, 03:13:51 PM »
well, some people DO believe they used actors... it was a stage.. 

Oregon sheriff implied this about Sandy Hook. Believe that shit, someone in his position? Now he gets to see the other side.


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Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
« Reply #139 on: October 06, 2015, 03:21:55 PM »
Nonsense as in 1000 words of don't care/ain't reading. Not sure how "phony" applies, but not so horrible coming from you. Ever read your posts?

Fair enough :D

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Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
« Reply #140 on: October 06, 2015, 03:24:42 PM »
I didn't see Pompeii covered in lava. I can't say I witnessed WW2 first hand. That doesn't make that they happened any less likely based on the evidence I have to make a conclusion. I would say that for me, knowing this person, the intricate conspiracy and huge blow back a hoax school shooting would have, I can reasonably conclude it happened.     
Yet we have photographs of "bodies" at Pompei. Casts made out of the decayed bodies...

You did not witness WW2, but there are tons of photos and videos showing dead bodies, destruction etc.

There really are no photos of Sandy Hook indicating anybody died there.




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Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
« Reply #141 on: October 06, 2015, 03:28:26 PM »
Oregon sheriff implied this about Sandy Hook. Believe that shit, someone in his position? Now he gets to see the other side.


Poor Robbie Parker - lol! Worse crisis actor ever!




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Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
« Reply #142 on: October 06, 2015, 03:28:57 PM »
The possibility that actors were used in some instances after the fact isn't out of the question.  There's the infamous Sandy Hook video of one of the supposed victims fathers who was on camera laughing and smiling before his interview, takes a pause to generate tears and get into "character" and then does the interview.


And this is really all these dopes need. Dismiss mountains of evidence and reason over how someone "should grieve." To even consider such stupidity instantly drops your IQ 20 points.

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Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
« Reply #143 on: October 06, 2015, 03:31:20 PM »
Poor Robbie Parker - lol! Worse crisis actor ever!





Ad hominemed, sorry. Google solipsism, might hit home.

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Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
« Reply #144 on: October 06, 2015, 03:34:01 PM »
Oregon sheriff implied this about Sandy Hook. Believe that shit, someone in his position? Now he gets to see the other side.



Yeah, what a clown

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Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
« Reply #146 on: October 06, 2015, 03:36:55 PM »

Out of all the interviews and public statements made by parents, relatives, friends, and classmates of Sandy Hook victims, the video plucks two brief snippets of Robbie Parker (father of slain 6-year-old Emilie Parker) and Lynn McDonnell (mother of slain 7-year-old Grace McDonnell) smiling and laughing in conjunction with television appearances in which they spoke about their children, offering this as evidence that a hoax is being perpetrated by people who are merely pretending to be grieving parents. But parents who have lost children don't all walk around afterwards utterly glum and disconsolate, never allowing themselves to exhibit any emotion other than sadness. Either of them might have been laughing and smiling during or immediately prior to talking about their children for any number of reasons: because they were reacting to something funny, because they were expressing nervous anxiety about facing a national television audience, or because they were recalling fond memories of their deceased children.

 Indeed, the audio from the portion of Lynn McDonnell's interview with CNN's Anderson Cooper which was used in this conspiracy video is conveniently muted so that viewers can't see for themselves exactly why she was smiling — because she was remembering what a terrific, happy child her daughter was, and how much she loved her:
COOPER: What do you want people to know about Grace?

 LYNN MCDONNELL: Well, Grace had such a great spirit. She was a kind and gentle soul. And she was just the light and love of our family. She was just truly a special, special little girl that we loved, and she loved her brother so much. And she loved her school, Sandy Hook.

 In fact, this week, I was telling somebody she had a stomach ache one day, and I said to her, "Why don't you stay home with Mom?"

 And she said, "No way, I have too much fun there, and I don't want to miss anything." She would skip to get on the bus. It wasn't even — you know, every morning, it was the backpack was packed the night before and ready to get on the bus in the morning and head off to school. We would blow kisses every morning to each other.

 And I remember that morning putting her on the bus. She had a habit of blowing kisses, but then she'd give me a big little liver lips like this. But then she — I knew she was so happy to go off and get there.

 So it — I'd like to say that she was at a place that she loved, and so we take comfort in that, that we know she was in a place that she really loved.

Read more at http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/newtown.asp#OQX3A4YueGBxXo3J.99

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Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
« Reply #147 on: October 06, 2015, 03:42:39 PM »
Out of all the interviews and public statements made by parents, relatives, friends, and classmates of Sandy Hook victims, the video plucks two brief snippets of Robbie Parker (father of slain 6-year-old Emilie Parker) and Lynn McDonnell (mother of slain 7-year-old Grace McDonnell) smiling and laughing in conjunction with television appearances in which they spoke about their children, offering this as evidence that a hoax is being perpetrated by people who are merely pretending to be grieving parents. But parents who have lost children don't all walk around afterwards utterly glum and disconsolate, never allowing themselves to exhibit any emotion other than sadness. Either of them might have been laughing and smiling during or immediately prior to talking about their children for any number of reasons: because they were reacting to something funny, because they were expressing nervous anxiety about facing a national television audience, or because they were recalling fond memories of their deceased children.

 Indeed, the audio from the portion of Lynn McDonnell's interview with CNN's Anderson Cooper which was used in this conspiracy video is conveniently muted so that viewers can't see for themselves exactly why she was smiling — because she was remembering what a terrific, happy child her daughter was, and how much she loved her:
COOPER: What do you want people to know about Grace?

 LYNN MCDONNELL: Well, Grace had such a great spirit. She was a kind and gentle soul. And she was just the light and love of our family. She was just truly a special, special little girl that we loved, and she loved her brother so much. And she loved her school, Sandy Hook.

 In fact, this week, I was telling somebody she had a stomach ache one day, and I said to her, "Why don't you stay home with Mom?"

 And she said, "No way, I have too much fun there, and I don't want to miss anything." She would skip to get on the bus. It wasn't even — you know, every morning, it was the backpack was packed the night before and ready to get on the bus in the morning and head off to school. We would blow kisses every morning to each other.

 And I remember that morning putting her on the bus. She had a habit of blowing kisses, but then she'd give me a big little liver lips like this. But then she — I knew she was so happy to go off and get there.

 So it — I'd like to say that she was at a place that she loved, and so we take comfort in that, that we know she was in a place that she really loved.

Read more at http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/newtown.asp#OQX3A4YueGBxXo3J.99

They'll just attack Snopes, same as when they debunked the 9-11 dummies. Like talking to the wall with these foilers.

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Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
« Reply #148 on: October 06, 2015, 03:47:07 PM »
found a comment on another forum that pretty much sums it up for me,,,,,,

"Well on CSI Miami" doesn't cut it. You cannot base your expectations of a criminal investigation on a show in which DNA samples are collected, processed and matched to a known sample in the back of a truck in a matter of seconds.

Every scene and every incident is unique. Columbine is not Sandy Hook. Therefore, "well with Columbine we saw..." doesn't cut it.

No photos of the victims post-mortem? How many times have you seen photographs of the victim of a brutal murder plastered on the front page of a local paper? "There are no photographs of the bodies" doesn't cut it.

I am a former paramedic and currently employed as a medical examiner investigator. I call tell you it is not uncommon at all for a case involving a single victim homicide to remain at the scene for up to 6 hours while the police investigation is ongoing. We're talking 20+ victims here. So, "the bodies were there for a long time" doesn't cut it.

Do you have any comprehension of how many people would be involved in such a "fabricated" incident? We're talking both local and governmental law enforcement agencies, state officials and politicians (Including R's who are more than likely opposed to gun restrictions), the local media, local funeral homes and their staff, local hospitals and their staff and community at large. You mean to tell me NO ONE is taking? NO ONE has approached a news agency with information they can provide about a "cover up"?
 

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Re: I Dont Understand Something (False Flag)
« Reply #149 on: October 06, 2015, 03:51:03 PM »
http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/newtown.asp
Lol, ok if Snopes said it's false it must be! hahah lololol! You can do better than that. Really??? You're going to offer up snopes??!!

http://railct.com/2010/04/06/snopes-and-critical-thinking/

"The second thing that I think is interesting about Snopes is that the pronouncements of the Mikkelsons and their staff are widely regarded as authoritative–but their authority doesn’t really have any basis apart from the track record they have in “de-bunking” exaggerated claims that others have made.  One wants to ask: Is this enough? Should they be treated as authoritatively as they so clearly are by so many?  And if not, why not?

There’s actually to my mind a good case that we shouldn’t take Snopes as authoritative–at least not to the degree that we do.  There are no credentials for “de-bunking”, after all, and no real community of “de-bunkers” (outside of a couple other websites) against which their activities could be measured.   So there doesn’t seem to be a way to understand the Snopes de-bunkers as cognitive authorities on, say, Douglas Walton’s definition.  I suppose we might say their authority comes from “position to know” (i.e. they do the research necessary to find out whether a story is rumor or fact) but that seems kind of weak too. Rather, it seems to me that their authority is maybe of a moral sort. It seems to derive from their (self-appointed? community appointed?) status as something like one of Heinlein’s “Fair Witnesses” from Stranger in a Strange Land.  (Can Snopes claim that kind of authority? Can anyone?)"