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Check out this absolute monster.
I witnessed first-hand Warlord hoisting weight in the gym. This was in the very early '90s. He was in Toronto, Ontario, for a wrestling gig. He performed six ultra-perfect reps in the bench with 455. Unlike most who yap without truly knowing the deal, I can say the dude made the pressing look like a cake walk. Clearly he was just maintaining as he was out on the road and was performing at Maple Leaf Gardens that very evening.
He also did a high-rep set of squats with 315 (rep after rep ... well over 20 reps).
Think what you want, but in the street, without rules (and weapons, naturally), Warlord would decimate just about anyone. Including all these MMA/UFC warriors-lite. All the BJJ and "stand-up" isn't gonna save your hide when a creature such as this wants to break you in half.
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Our very own Mensa Bob resembled Terry Szopinski back when he was in his prime.
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The ungodly size and strength of some of those pro wrestlers in the '80s and early '90s was terrifying.
Easy-to-get shit, coupled with its general purity (and no one hassling them to not use too much, etc.), resulted in some outrageously monster guys.
Like I say, I met Warlord (and many others of that era), and let me tell you, the man was simply frightening in physical presence. I've met most of the biggest pro bodybuilders/powerlifters of the past 25 years, including Kovacs, Coleman, Yates, El Sonbaty, Gillingham, and Kazmaier (albeit the latter was well past his peak years of size and strength), and in comparison, few could have ever come even close to Warlord.
On a side note, Warlord was one of the friendliest and most helpful musclemen I have ever met. I was just, like, 20, and the guy was eager to give me spots (I was doing presses that day, as well) and offer motivating words of encouragement.
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When I was about oh...17 or so I weighed maybe 180 skinny fat but 6'1 and kinda big anyway...
I went to a family reunion, beers, brats, UFC, trailer park, 50 kids running around everyone standing around bullshitting etc..
Well we got a couple in us and me and my cousins started shadow boxing etc...Like we do. A couple of my cousins are legit bikers, drug dealer types, bouncers and so on...General Hooligans.
Well we were shadow boxin, and like it does, it degenerated into actual play boxing, and then into legit 1 on 1 matches in the "UFC style gloves" and we go through the usual shit talking, couple bloody noses..Shake up then make up cousin type fighting..
Well out of nowhere one of my female cousins from the trailer park comes walking up from down the street with one of her friends...a legit full contact karate practitioner, that studied it in Japan I believe..Legit Karate where the dudes just stand and deliver powerful blows to the body until one man crumbles, I guess it's a legit sport somewhere with tournaments...
Well he went by the name of Scott and he stood probably 6'4-6'5 I'd say 300lbs but there is no way of knowing, he had a decent layer of blubber on his whole body.
He was very intrigued by the sight of all of us wrestling around and boxing with bloody noses etc...His eyes lit up like he was totally in his element once again, and he subtly and briefly went into his background with karate etc..Which we all just assumed was bullshit and brushed it off..
Well after some ribbing from us, Scott decided to prove his merits as a tank and offered to let me swing on him as many times as I liked, and he assured me that if I hurt him he would say stop and that he wouldn't over react and attack me viciously.
So I agreed, and everyone gathered around...We squared off and he just stood there and said alright go...I took my stance and immediately started unleashing on this fool's body like fucking Chuck Norris...I have never...NEVEr felt so incredibly weak and powerless as I did at that moment, when my most wound up, telegraphed, my BIGGEST power punches, the absolute hardest I could have possible hit someone if they let me ( as he did ) DID NOT EVEN REMOTELY PHASE THIS MAN...
I mean I fucking wound back and unleashed socks on this fool that would bruise and hurt a man of my equal stature, but this 6'5 300+lb man just maintained a slight smirk on his face as he giggled while I was totally out of breath from unleashing at least 25 Mike Tyson-esque blows unto his body.
From that day forward I realized that no matter what kind of "skills" or "technique" bla bla bla you think you have...A huge monster of a man may not be quick and agile like a small cat, but your absolute hardest blow you could possible deliver will not even begin to phase his sheer massive frame in any way...It is a battle you will never ever win without a ranged weapon.
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Did Warlord have that " full nelson " finishing move and onky Davey boy Smith was able to break free from it?
Or was it the other way around?
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(http://static.bips.channel4.com/bse/604x340/my-enemys-enemy/b3ea1edf-c8dd-49a2-8de2-44fc4872cc8b_625x352.jpg)
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my roommate at the time wrestled the Warlord here in Calgary in the 90's. randy thatcher (my roomies ringname) was the jobber for Warlord for a Calgary wwe match. he was originally booked to fight mr. Perfect, but somehow the wwe heard a rumor that randy was gonna try a shoot on Perfect to pin him and make a name for himself. so they put him up against Warlord to teach him a lesson.
randy was a lean 250 and could bench 5 plates for a few reps. (one of the few guys I knew that could actually move that kinda weight)
Warlord ragdolled him like he was 180lb. beat him bad and threw him around like nothing. I don't think he ever got in the ring again.
bottom line, Warlord was a beast, dwarfed a lean , strong 250 lber like a child.
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the other wrestlers also said he was so disciplined that at a place in Germany the drop in fee at the gym worked out to $75 US. all the other wrestlers said fug that, but Warlord said 'don't matter, gotta train'
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my roommate at the time wrestled the Warlord here in Calgary in the 90's. randy thatcher (my roomies ringname) was the jobber for Warlord for a Calgary wwe match. he was originally booked to fight mr. Perfect, but somehow the wwe heard a rumor that randy was gonna try a shoot on Perfect to pin him and make a name for himself. so they put him up against Warlord to teach him a lesson.
randy was a lean 250 and could bench 5 plates for a few reps. (one of the few guys I knew that could actually move that kinda weight)
Warlord ragdolled him like he was 180lb. beat him bad and threw him around like nothing. I don't think he ever got in the ring again.
bottom line, Warlord was a beast, dwarfed a lean , strong 250 lber like a child.
pssstttttt…….wrestlings not real. ::)
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thank you for that
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Ted Arcidi,trained at our gym once in the 80`s...........also Virgil,Blackjack Mulligan,and a bunch of other guys I can`t recall.
Arcidi did Skullcrushers with 3 plates a side on an E-Z Curl Bar like candy,sent a kid out to get him a sub and gave the kid change from a $100.00 bill.
Virgil and company thought they were huge until they saw Jeff King and Rich Roy training. :D
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Yet Warlord himself said he wouldn't have fucked with Haku, what does that tell you about Haku.
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Im sure "temper" s guy is a legit badass for sure BUT if Tyson hit him in the temple he d drop like a sack of shit like anyone else.
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Yet Warlord himself said he wouldn't have fucked with Haku, what does that tell you about Haku.
ya , it's interesting when you hear the inside locker room talk about who the true 'tough' wrestlers are. the ones who fought the shoots in japan, and the ones all the other wrestlers truly respect and fear.
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What exactly is it about Haku that makes him so feared. Even Andre the Giant said he would nt try him and who the fuck at 7 foot 4 or whatever and 500lbs is scared of anyone?!?!
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After watching that, I don't know what's gayer, wresting or bodybuilding? :-\
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Check out this absolute monster.
I witnessed first-hand Warlord hoisting weight in the gym. This was in the very early '90s. He was in Toronto, Ontario, for a wrestling gig. He performed six ultra-perfect reps in the bench with 455. Unlike most who yap without truly knowing the deal, I can say the dude made the pressing look like a cake walk. Clearly he was just maintaining as he was out on the road and was performing at Maple Leaf Gardens that very evening.
He also did a high-rep set of squats with 315 (rep after rep ... well over 20 reps).
Think what you want, but in the street, without rules (and weapons, naturally), Warlord would decimate just about anyone. Including all these MMA/UFC warriors-lite. All the BJJ and "stand-up" isn't gonna save your hide when a creature such as this wants to break you in half.
I'd put my shin to his temple and he'd go to sleep.
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The scary thing about these fake wrestlers is they are big, strong, have practical strength from lifting human bodies, knowledge of leverage and body mechanics, AND ENDURANCE.
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What exactly is it about Haku that makes him so feared. Even Andre the Giant said he would nt try him and who the fuck at 7 foot 4 or whatever and 500lbs is scared of anyone?!?!
He was known for being a legit badass in terms of destroying "tough guys" (see comments above as an example of such) who would approach wrestlers in bars etc. and claim they were phonies and fakes. There are countless stories of him beating up multiple guys in bar fights. He once bite off some guys nose and gouged out another man's eye (search for some of this on the web, the stories about him are crazy. I know some of them might be exaggerated but I've read several wrestler biographies and they all say the same thing - Haku was THE toughest).
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What? Even tougher than Max Moon? Who came from outta space. (http://www.wwe.com/f/widget/itout/2013/02/20121128_max_moon_bust_out.png)
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The ungodly size and strength of some of those pro wrestlers in the '80s and early '90s was terrifying.
Yeah, that truly was the golden era of monsters in wrestling (just before the McMahon steroid scandal in '92). Guys like the Road Warriors, the Bulldogs, Barbarian, Ultimate Warrior, Vader, Earthquake - these guys were literally real life comic book characters. But Warlord was the biggest and the baddest at the time. Most of those wrestlers were strong as hell, especially in the bench. In fact what I think set Warlord apart was that he had a strong upper and lower body - most of those guys had more of a bench-specialist type power build, but didn't have the lower body size of the Warlord. Warlord would have made a great monster villain to face the likes of Hogan and Macho Man but unfortunately he never got that push.
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What? Even tougher than Max Moon? Who came from outta space. (http://www.wwe.com/f/widget/itout/2013/02/20121128_max_moon_bust_out.png)
;D This was WWF's response to the steroid scandal - get rid of all the monsters and create a load of cartoon gimmicks.
(http://www.wrestlecrap.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Repo-Man.jpg)
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I've told the story on the wrestling board, the Warlord is one of the reasons why I started questioning My old man about the legitimacy of his profession.
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jesus christ he is one huge sunnuvabitch...look at the size of his fucking shoulders!!!
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Im sure "temper" s guy is a legit badass for sure BUT if Tyson hit him in the temple he d drop like a sack of shit like anyone else.
Obviously in the temple rofl..This cat let me square off on his belly/chest/shoulders area. And square off I did...Not 1 fuck was given by him either.
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Obviously in the temple rofl..This cat let me square off on his belly/chest/shoulders area. And square off I did...Not 1 fuck was given by him either.
Dude, we get it, you hit like a pus.
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jesus get a grip.
warlord is a beast and could break a regular fella like toothpicks. he got paid to throw oiled up fellas around to a script.
in the ring with someone who fights (for real) for a living...hes done, gassed in 2 minutes and lumbering like a tool.
go watch a marius p. video.
wrestling is not real life "fortress"
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jesus get a grip.
warlord is a beast and could break a regular fella like toothpicks. he got paid to throw oiled up fellas around to a script.
in the ring with someone who fights (for real) for a living...hes done, gassed in 2 minutes and lumbering like a tool.
go watch a marius p. video.
wrestling is not real life "fortress"
I estimate that Fortress is 14 years old. Bah!
Doom disapproves!
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Isn't there a pro bodybuilder on this forum who tried to go into wrestling and gave Vince McM a video of himself doing the 5 figure shuffle? Forget his name...Steve something.
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Isn't there a pro bodybuilder on this forum who tried to go into wrestling and gave Vince McM a video of himself doing the 5 figure shuffle? Forget his name...Steve something.
Steve Namat... but his sex tapes kept him from reaching the next level
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back in about 1991..... I witnessed the warlord pause press 455 on the incline.....for multiple reps......he also did db curls in between sets of incline presses with 55 pound dbs......quite a sight!
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jesus get a grip.
warlord is a beast and could break a regular fella like toothpicks. he got paid to throw oiled up fellas around to a script.
in the ring with someone who fights (for real) for a living...hes done, gassed in 2 minutes and lumbering like a tool.
go watch a marius p. video.
wrestling is not real life "fortress"
All you "gassed" trend-hoppers are completely out to lunch.
One of two things would happen if Warlord got into it with these MMA twerps: He'd either cause catastrophic injury within 30 seconds from sheer blunt force trauma or he'd wrap the other guy up like a bear and squeeze the life out of him. I mean, forget getting Warlord in some kind of ground assault (oh brother). Sure, a lucky strike to a vulnerable part of his head/jaw might yield a win, but the chances of this happening in a real fight are remote.
Fact is, you'd get real hurt real fast. The sheer size and strength would obliterate any advantage that could be had with technique and some submission moves.
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To beat him you have to be smarter than him.
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When I was about oh...17 or so I weighed maybe 180 skinny fat but 6'1 and kinda big anyway...
I went to a family reunion, beers, brats, UFC, trailer park, 50 kids running around everyone standing around bullshitting etc..
Well we got a couple in us and me and my cousins started shadow boxing etc...Like we do. A couple of my cousins are legit bikers, drug dealer types, bouncers and so on...General Hooligans.
Well we were shadow boxin, and like it does, it degenerated into actual play boxing, and then into legit 1 on 1 matches in the "UFC style gloves" and we go through the usual shit talking, couple bloody noses..Shake up then make up cousin type fighting..
Well out of nowhere one of my female cousins from the trailer park comes walking up from down the street with one of her friends...a legit full contact karate practitioner, that studied it in Japan I believe..Legit Karate where the dudes just stand and deliver powerful blows to the body until one man crumbles, I guess it's a legit sport somewhere with tournaments...
Well he went by the name of Scott and he stood probably 6'4-6'5 I'd say 300lbs but there is no way of knowing, he had a decent layer of blubber on his whole body.
He was very intrigued by the sight of all of us wrestling around and boxing with bloody noses etc...His eyes lit up like he was totally in his element once again, and he subtly and briefly went into his background with karate etc..Which we all just assumed was bullshit and brushed it off..
Well after some ribbing from us, Scott decided to prove his merits as a tank and offered to let me swing on him as many times as I liked, and he assured me that if I hurt him he would say stop and that he wouldn't over react and attack me viciously.
So I agreed, and everyone gathered around...We squared off and he just stood there and said alright go...I took my stance and immediately started unleashing on this fool's body like fucking Chuck Norris...I have never...NEVEr felt so incredibly weak and powerless as I did at that moment, when my most wound up, telegraphed, my BIGGEST power punches, the absolute hardest I could have possible hit someone if they let me ( as he did ) DID NOT EVEN REMOTELY PHASE THIS MAN...
I mean I fucking wound back and unleashed socks on this fool that would bruise and hurt a man of my equal stature, but this 6'5 300+lb man just maintained a slight smirk on his face as he giggled while I was totally out of breath from unleashing at least 25 Mike Tyson-esque blows unto his body.
From that day forward I realized that no matter what kind of "skills" or "technique" bla bla bla you think you have...A huge monster of a man may not be quick and agile like a small cat, but your absolute hardest blow you could possible deliver will not even begin to phase his sheer massive frame in any way...It is a battle you will never ever win without a ranged weapon.
This is why Helio Gracie, over 80 years ago, taught the simple choke, read naked or even triangle, is the only reliable weapon against a human "monster." Yeah, you can't hurt him with strikes and you probably ( erroneously) Jordan Boroughs couldn't somehow take and hold this guy down til he gasses (Warlord or Karate badass), even with the first UFCs teaching you the reality of combat in non-cross trained fighters, a choke is undeniable. You can't tough through it, grit your teeth and bear it, or my favorite don't get him mad he blanks out--you sleep, period.
Again, even if Warlord or 300 Karate Bad ass were toughest guys around, are you impressed they can beat guys they out weight by 100 pound and have like a foot of hieght on?!? What if Royce Gracie was a ripped 500 lbs standing 7 feet tall, would anyone even talk about the Warlord or any other other "monster"?
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jesus get a grip.
warlord is a beast and could break a regular fella like toothpicks. he got paid to throw oiled up fellas around to a script.
in the ring with someone who fights (for real) for a living...hes done, gassed in 2 minutes and lumbering like a tool.
go watch a marius p. video.
wrestling is not real life "fortress"
Cue up 'Halo to rant about a "prime RC"
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Why didn't Vince Mcmahon ever try to get this guy to the WWF back in his prime and push him to the top? He was everything the 1980's represented with pro wrestling. He must have had zero skills on the microphone and no charisma.
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That's it basically, he no fucking mic skils what so ever, even worse than Giant Gonzalez.
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Warlord in the Gym 2010
When he was younger
Prime MensaBob
Warlord Dwarfing Davey-Boy Smith
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Why didn't Vince Mcmahon ever try to get this guy to the WWF back in his prime and push him to the top? He was everything the 1980's represented with pro wrestling. He must have had zero skills on the microphone and no charisma.
He really didn't have the best charisma and he wasn't good on the mic. That's why he always had a manager.