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Title: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Dos Equis on February 15, 2008, 10:11:35 AM
Appreciation Day isn't till May, but just some things to keep in mind:

165 officers die in the line of duty annually

1 officer is killed every 54 hours

61,000 officers are assaulted annually

189 officers are assaulted every day

19,000 officers are injured in those assaults

2 officers are shot every day

http://www.nationallead.com/
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: 240 is Back on February 15, 2008, 10:15:50 AM
There are good ones, and there are bad ones.


Cue the video clip of the cop tossing the crippled veteran from the wheelchair while 3 more cops watch.
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Decker on February 15, 2008, 10:16:13 AM
Appreciation Day isn't till May, but just some things to keep in mind:

165 officers die in the line of duty annually

1 officer is killed every 54 hours

61,000 officers are assaulted annually

189 officers are assaulted every day

19,000 officers are injured in those assaults

2 officers are shot every day

http://www.nationallead.com/

If the day is not until May, why are you bringing it up now?

Do you talk about Christmas in July?
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: 240 is Back on February 15, 2008, 10:20:36 AM
If the day is not until May, why are you bringing it up now?

Do you talk about Christmas in July?

Beach Bum sucks up to those in authority on a daily basis.

He probably stops at the local police precinct each morning to deliver them coffee and let them know he won't be committing any crimes today.  meanwhile, there's probably a pile of dead hookers in his trunk.  It's always those who appear the most spinless and pandering that have the most fcked up shit in their closet.
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Dos Equis on February 15, 2008, 10:21:36 AM
If the day is not until May, why are you bringing it up now?

Do you talk about Christmas in July?

I am the anti-anti-law enforcement voice on this board.  :)

And yes I talk Christmas in July.  I get my deferred January compensation in July.   :)  I also start playing Christmas music in November, sometimes earlier, and keep playing it through January.  
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: 240 is Back on February 15, 2008, 10:25:30 AM
I am the anti-anti-law enforcement voice on this board.  :)

And yes I talk Christmas in July.  I get my deferred January compensation in July.   :)  I also start playing Christmas music in November, sometimes early, and keep playing it through January.  

Yep.  You're a repressed psychopath.

You probably think any sex outside of missionary is for "sinful libs".  Every now and again, you strangle a hooker in a moment of weakness.  To compensate, you start law enforcement appreciation threads to 'even it all out" in your head.

Sick bastard.
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Cap on February 15, 2008, 10:28:10 AM
A few things.

Argumentum ad hominem.

People who definitely should not be using guns are the ones talking about them all the time and claim they have no problem shooting people and brag about their machismo when it comes to guns.

A few rotten apples bring out negative feelings about LE in general when most depend on these brave men and women.  Hating police because you got a moving violation and saw the Rampart scandal on tv is dumb.
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Dos Equis on February 15, 2008, 10:30:17 AM
Yep.  You're a repressed psychopath.

You probably think any sex outside of missionary is for "sinful libs".  Every now and again, you strangle a hooker in a moment of weakness.  To compensate, you start law enforcement appreciation threads to 'even it all out" in your head.

Sick bastard.

lol . . .  :)  A riddle:  which one of us threatened to kill his wife and child?  See answer below.


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240: on January 14, 2007, 08:52:49 AM » Quote 

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"my woman already knows. if i ever make a fortune, i'll always make sure she and the babies are covered if we split.

but if we ever split and she tries to screw me in court, well, hello scott peterson. "

That would be the same Scott Peterson who murdered his wife and unborn child.   :-\
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: OzmO on February 15, 2008, 10:31:25 AM
lol . . .  :)  A riddle:  which one of us threatened to kill his wife and child?  See answer below.


That would be the same Scott Peterson who murdered his wife and unborn child.   :-\


ouch 

240  he had this one waiting  for you   lol

 ;D
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Dos Equis on February 15, 2008, 10:32:00 AM
A few things.

Argumentum ad hominem.

People who definitely should not be using guns are the ones talking about them all the time and claim they have no problem shooting people and brag about their machismo when it comes to guns.

A few rotten apples bring out negative feelings about LE in general when most depend on these brave men and women.  Hating police because you got a moving violation and saw the Rampart scandal on tv is dumb.

I agree.  
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: 240 is Back on February 15, 2008, 10:33:18 AM
I love the police and appreciate the job they do.  However, I hate those who abuse their authority.

When I was 18 years old, I was coming home from work.  An intersection was under construction, and the scale that tells your car when to move was not working.  I pulled up and sat there.  I listened to two songs on my radio, and the light never changed.   So it was easily 8 minutes that I sat there waiting.

I decided to run it.  It was 11 pm, there were no cars in either direction.  The moment I did, a cop who had been waiting in the darkness for those 8 minutes lit me up, stopped me, and ticketed me.  When I tried to explain the construction, she said that if I spoke another word, she'd give me a ticket for not wearing a seatbelt.  I pointed at the seatbelt I was clearly wearing, and she smiled at me.  Threats of add'l ticket over a lie.

I saw her name in the paper a month later- she won an award as the cop with the most tickets for the month.  She got a bonus and a plaque.  She stopped me to pad her stats.  She found a flaw in the road system and exploited it for her own gain.

She can kiss my ass.  I remember her name to this day.  I'll never forget that bitch.
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: jaejonna on February 15, 2008, 10:41:19 AM
FUck cops they have harrassed the shit out of me
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Decker on February 15, 2008, 10:51:30 AM
I am the anti-anti-law enforcement voice on this board.  :)

And yes I talk Christmas in July.  I get my deferred January compensation in July.   :)  I also start playing Christmas music in November, sometimes earlier, and keep playing it through January.  
Thanks for the insight BB and Happy Easter.  hahaha
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Dos Equis on February 15, 2008, 10:58:21 AM
Thanks for the insight BB and Happy Easter.  hahaha

No problem mang.  Mele Kalikimaka.   :D   http://www.melekalikimaka.com/
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Colossus_500 on February 15, 2008, 11:08:33 AM
I am the anti-anti-law enforcement voice on this board.  :)

And yes I talk Christmas in July.  I get my deferred January compensation in July.   :)  I also start playing Christmas music in November, sometimes earlier, and keep playing it through January. 
LOL  Bet he and 240 have lots of tickets.   :P
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Decker on February 15, 2008, 11:13:54 AM
LOL  Bet he and 240 have lots of tickets.   :P
I haven't got a ticket in 19 years.  Now why did you go and make me feel old?
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Colossus_500 on February 15, 2008, 11:16:40 AM
I haven't got a ticket in 19 years.  Now why did you go and make me feel old?
LOL!!!!

Let it go, man!  Let it go.  haaaaaaaa

been 20 years since I got my one and only speeding ticket.
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Decker on February 15, 2008, 11:18:58 AM
LOL!!!!

Let it go, man!  Let it go.  haaaaaaaa

been 20 years since I got my one and only speeding ticket.
All right. hahahaa

Let's keep the streak alive.

And I still got my hair!
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Colossus_500 on February 15, 2008, 01:07:01 PM
Got mine too.   ;D
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on February 15, 2008, 01:54:35 PM
meanwhile, there's probably a pile of dead hookers in his trunk.  It's always those who appear the most spinless and pandering that have the most fcked up shit in their closet.

HAHA  ;D
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Camel Jockey on February 15, 2008, 04:35:15 PM
Why is there so much anamosity towards cops here?

I'm a sand fellow and I've always been treated okay by cops. Don't give them shit and they wont give you shit.  ::)
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on February 15, 2008, 07:11:54 PM
Why is there so much anamosity towards cops here?

I'm a sand fellow and I've always been treated okay by cops. Don't give them shit and they wont give you shit.  ::)

Agree
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Hugo Chavez on February 20, 2008, 09:07:31 PM
I can follow that there is a lot of great cops out there and those fellas deserve a lot of respect.  I don't think anybody has a beef with those guys.  When you hear us bitching, it's obviously about the bad element, bad policies and not good cops.
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: benchmstr on February 21, 2008, 02:07:49 PM
I haven't got a ticket in 19 years.  Now why did you go and make me feel old?
i get pulled over all the time but never get a ticket........i wonder why ???

bench
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: headhuntersix on February 21, 2008, 03:13:47 PM
In this day and age...yes officer and no sir go along way. Not moving before they get to ur car helps. When I carry I place both hands on the wheel until I'm sure the cop won't shoot me. If ur not a dick u'll be fine. Or u have big tits..bench do u have big tits... :D
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: benchmstr on February 21, 2008, 10:28:32 PM
In this day and age...yes officer and no sir go along way. Not moving before they get to ur car helps. When I carry I place both hands on the wheel until I'm sure the cop won't shoot me. If ur not a dick u'll be fine. Or u have big tits..bench do u have big tits... :D
nah,just a badge.and to be honest the only reason i inform them i am a cop is because i have a loaded weapon either on me or in the vehicle.i couldnt care less if they wrote me the ticket or not.

i hate writing citations,it is the worst part of my job i usually go on duty the first day of the month write a shitload of citation and the rest of the month i do actual police work,not this pussy ass traffic bullshit.

bench

Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: headhuntersix on February 22, 2008, 07:47:14 AM
I didn't realize u were a cop. Go easy man, tough job. Where at, if u don't mind me asking.
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: benchmstr on February 22, 2008, 10:14:39 AM
I didn't realize u were a cop. Go easy man, tough job. Where at, if u don't mind me asking.
texas.i have only been a cop for about 8 months before that i was with a certain federal agency that i no longer have anything to do with.

bench
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Camel Jockey on February 22, 2008, 12:01:16 PM
I got my bag searched the other day(random subway searches) and the officer was very nice about it and said "thank you". All I did was open up my backpack.

The problem is that most people getting into trouble over small matters are rude little assholes that think they're tough guys by showing a little cheek to law enforcement officers. I've never had any trouble with cops, yet I run into people here and IRL who say cops are the worst. Personally, I'm able to sleep at night knowing that there are people out there willing to do such a service profession and keep the rest of us safe.

Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Dos Equis on May 17, 2011, 09:32:11 PM
Bump.   :)
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: whork25 on May 18, 2011, 03:44:48 AM
I got my bag searched the other day(random subway searches) and the officer was very nice about it and said "thank you". All I did was open up my backpack.

The problem is that most people getting into trouble over small matters are rude little assholes that think they're tough guys by showing a little cheek to law enforcement officers. I've never had any trouble with cops, yet I run into people here and IRL who say cops are the worst. Personally, I'm able to sleep at night knowing that there are people out there willing to do such a service profession and keep the rest of us safe.


"Personally, I'm able to sleep at night knowing that there are people out there willing to do such a service profession and keep the rest of us safe."
Keep dreaming ::)
 



Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Dos Equis on May 18, 2011, 11:36:26 AM
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I certainly don't see them... Maybe once every year or so you might get a "good cop" story.

Cops don't protect shit... They don't stop crime... They just report on it.

I ask everyone who reads this to be honest with themselves and tell me a time when a cop actually HELPED you... I haven't got a SINGLE story and I'm 36 years old.

You guys?

Police "Heroes" Save Woman from Burning Car
Victim pulled from vehicle as flames spread
Wednesday, Mar 11, 2009 |
By Jim Iovino

UPPER MARLBORO, Md. -- As flames singed their boots and pants, two members of the Maryland State Police force heroically rescued a woman Wednesday morning from a burning vehicle.

Corporal John Griffin and Cadet Andrew Neall were the first officials to arrive at the scene of a car crash at about 6:30 a.m. along Route 301 near Leeland Drive and saw the front of a vehicle engulfed in flames, with fire leaping 6 feet above the vehicle and the two front tires ablaze.

The driver's side door was locked so Griffin shattered the window and, through heavy smoke, spotted the driver slumped over the center console. He unbuckled the driver and began to remove her from the burning vehicle while feeling the heat from the fire at his feet and legs.

Griffin and Neall began to carry the victim up the hill to safety. They got just 15 feet away from the crash when the entire interior of the Hyundai erupted in flames.

The driver, Melody Grimm, 57, of Crofton, was treated at the scene.

The cause of the crash and the fire remains under investigation, but officials said Griffin and Neall should be credited with saving a life.

“I commend Corporal Griffin and Cadet Neall for their heroic actions today that uphold the highest standards and traditions of the Maryland State Police,” Colonel Terrence Sheridan said. “Their decisive and unselfish actions clearly resulted in a life being saved, for which we are all grateful.”

http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Police-Heroes-Save-Woman-from-Burning-Car.html
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Dos Equis on May 18, 2011, 11:38:13 AM
Obama honors police heroes
May 12, 2009
By Joseph Weber
The Washington Times

President Obama on Tuesday honored 33 U.S. law enforcement officers who risked their lives — from capturing terrorists to rescuing hostages held at gunpoint — to protect and save others.

“It is an extraordinary privilege to celebrate these cops who have traveled here today to be recognized for their acts of courage,” the president said at the White House ceremony. “These are the men and women who walk the beat and do the difficult job of keeping our neighborhoods safe.”

The honors are known as the Top Cop awards and are given each year by the National Association of Police Organizations.

Among those honored were Fabian Gonzalez, a Phoenix Police Department officer who in April 2008 stopped an armed man who was shooting into a mall crowd while using a security guard as a shield.

Mr. Obama used the event — held on a clear, sunny afternoon in the compound’s Rose Garden — to restate that his administration has helped create and save thousands of police department jobs through $1 billion in the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009.

The president also said he wants to spend more money to add an additional 50,000 police-officer jobs.

“You’ve literally walked through fire,” the president said of Boise (Idaho) Police Department officers Chris Davis and Jason Rose.

In August 2008, the officers were among the first to respond to a deadly fire and went house to house to evacuate residents.

The officers became engulfed in flames after a series of explosions but continued to rescue others after using sprinklers to extinguish the flames, which had melted their uniforms, according to NAPO.

Seven Drug Enforcement Agency officers were honored for helping to arrest terrorist Monzer Al Kassar, responsible for supplying the weapons used in the 1985 Achille Lauro hijacking.

A U.S. court last year convicted him and two others on multiple terrorism charges.

Special Agents John Archer and William Brown; Assistant Special Agents in Charge Paul Craine, Nicholas Nargi and James Soiles; Supervisory Special Agent Brian Dodd; and Supervisory Special Agent Louis Milione participated in the five-year investigation.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/may/12/obama-honors-police-heroes/?page=all#pagebreak
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Dos Equis on May 18, 2011, 11:39:17 AM
Police remember their fallen heroes
May. 17, 2011

Speaking to a crowd at a memorial ceremony Tuesday for law enforcement officers, Louisiana State Police Capt. Kevin Reeves quoted an author's description of a hero.

"The writer, Raymond Chandler, once penned, 'Down these mean streets a man must go who is not, himself, mean. Who is neither tarnished, nor afraid,'" Reeves said. "I'd like to think Chandler had every law enforcement officer in mind as he wrote those words."

The Second Annual Northeast Louisiana Police Week continued with the ceremonial wreath-laying at the "Fallen Officers" Memorial. After a prayer and performance of the National Anthem, Reeves, commander of Troop F, spoke to those in attendance.

"When I was promoted to commander at Troop F, Col. (Mike) Edmondson (LSP Commander) told me to ensure the relationships were formed with other area law enforcement agencies," Reeves said. "I told him northeastern Louisiana residents already benefitted from that."

Monroe Mayor Jamie Mayo said the ceremony of the wreath-laying was an important component of Police Week.

"We're delighted as a law enforcement agency to invite other agencies from around the area to honor those who have fallen," Mayo said.

Monroe police chief Quentin Holmes said it was important to take a moment and remember the sacrifice law enforcement officers make every day.

"Sometimes, its easy for us to forget about those who pay the ultimate sacrifice," Holmes said. "This is a chance for us to pause and reflect on the price paid by our law enforcement officers."

Holmes, who organized the first Northeast Louisiana Police Week last year, said he was humbled to serve his community.

West Monroe police chief Christopher Elg said Tuesday's ceremony was only one of possibly thousands taking place across the country this week.

"Anywhere in the country, there are communities gathering for events like this," Elg said. "It's nice to know there are those thinking about us officers. It's good that agencies can get together like this and remember the sacrifices we make."

Every year, Concerns of Police Survivors, a not-for-profit organization, holds National Police Week in Washington. NELA Police Week is intended to mirror the national event.

Reeves summed up the camaraderie between law enforcement agencies.

"Regardless whether we wear some shade of blue, gray, khaki or green, we're a family," Reeves said.

Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Dos Equis on May 23, 2011, 11:41:15 AM
Police Officer Saves Child's Life
Milford Child Was Choking On Apple
By WickedLocal.com, our news partner
POSTED: 6:59 am EST February 13, 2011
UPDATED: 7:02 am EST February 13, 2011

MILFORD, Mass. -- Police Officer Robbie Tusino is to thank for saving a 14-month-old child’s life on Thursday, our news partner WickedLocal/Milford reported.

Tusino, who is also a paramedic, responded to a call at 4:25 p.m. that day stating a child had stopped breathing. The child was blue in the face and unresponsive because of an obstructed airway when Tusino and Officer Edward Varteresian arrived on the scene.

Tusino began Heimlich procedures to remove the object, an over-sized piece of apple, from the child’s airway. The child was revived and could be heard crying on the police radio transmission.

“Robbie Tusino has worked miracles in the past utilizing his skills and abilities as a paramedic to save people’s lives, today, he once again commendably demonstrated these skills and saved the life of a young child,” Police Chief Thomas O’Loughlin said in a statement.

http://www.thebostonchannel.com/r/26849804/detail.html
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Dos Equis on May 23, 2011, 11:42:48 AM
Police officer saves New Jersey woman’s life

Margaret Rosenbauer of Hillsdale, New Jersey, was at a friend's 70th birthday party when she started choking on a piece of meat. Officer Scott McNiff was the first one to respond to the call, and his actions saved Rosenbauer's life, according to the Westwood Patch.

The party took place at the Banchetto Feast restaurant in Westwood this past Saturday. When it became clear that Rosenbauer was chocking, an off-duty nurse ran over and performed the Heimlich maneuver to no avail.

Once McNiff arrived he began CPR while someone else retrieved an oxygen tank and other police gear from his car. After McNiff completed approximately 50 compressions, he noticed a noise that was coming from Rosenbauer indicating that she was able to breath, the Patch reports.

Paramedics arrived soon after and she was taken to a nearby hospital. She spent only a couple of hours there before being released.

According to the Cliffview Pilot, the guests in the restaurant clapped and cheered when McNiff was leaving the building, but he said he did not notice.

"I was more focused on the victim than the details of what was going on around me," McNiff told the Cliffview Pilot.

http://www.511tactical.com/news/2011/04/police-officer-saves-new-jersey-womans-life/
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Dos Equis on May 23, 2011, 11:43:48 AM
Reno Police Officer Saves Baby's Life
Posted: May 15, 2011 12:49 PM

Some scary moments for a pregnant woman before a Reno Police officer saved her baby Friday night.

Officer Michael Browett responded to a call of a woman having a pregnancy problem at the Southwest Village Apartments last night.

He says when he got there, he found a woman had just given birth, but the baby was not breathing.

He noticed the umbilical cord was wrapped around the baby's neck. He unwrapped it and suctioned out of the baby's nose and mouth until it started breathing and crying.

"It was nerve-wracking," Officer Browett said. "But once that baby started crying, that was the best sound ever.

Thanks to Officer Browett, the mother and her baby girl are doing just fine, recovering at the hospital.

http://www.ktvn.com/story/14649074/reno-police-officer-saves-babys-life
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 23, 2011, 11:50:39 AM
Good story.   Reminder to me to re-up my first aid course. 
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Agnostic007 on May 23, 2011, 01:07:28 PM
I've been in Law Enforcement in some form or fashion since 1982. I am fortunate to work on a Department that is well paid and well trained. I am proud of the fact we don't tolerate bad cops here. The days are long gone where you turn the other way if a cop is doing something wrong. It will cost you your job if you do.

I know not all departments are there yet. I know even we have a bad cop or two just waiting to be discovered because we hire from the human race, and no matter how extensive our screening is, every once in awhile a jerk slips through.

Rest assured no one hates a dirty cop more than the good cops. Every time we make strides with the community, building trust, repairing damage the last pos cop did before they were fired, another pos thug in uniform comes along and we start all over again. Truly frustrating. But.. the reality the vast majority of cops are good decent folks trying to keep the predators from preying on the weaker citizens. For every video you see of an officer either making an honest error in judgement or a down right criminal of himself, there were 100's of 1000's of citizen contacts that went just fine.

No one is saying cops are perfect, but the fact is, most of them are trying really hard to be...   
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 23, 2011, 01:12:28 PM
Just my .02, the worst thing that occurs in my nabe is that cops never do foot or cycle patrol.   

It would help a ton if cops actually acted like they cared about the local merchants, the local residents and actually once and awhile stoped and just talked to people about daily crap going on. 

instead, around me, all I see are cops speeding like crazy in the cars through red lights and stop signs talking on the phone, hanging out at DD, etc.   
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Dos Equis on May 23, 2011, 01:14:31 PM
I've been in Law Enforcement in some form or fashion since 1982. I am fortunate to work on a Department that is well paid and well trained. I am proud of the fact we don't tolerate bad cops here. The days are long gone where you turn the other way if a cop is doing something wrong. It will cost you your job if you do.

I know not all departments are there yet. I know even we have a bad cop or two just waiting to be discovered because we hire from the human race, and no matter how extensive our screening is, every once in awhile a jerk slips through.

Rest assured no one hates a dirty cop more than the good cops. Every time we make strides with the community, building trust, repairing damage the last pos cop did before they were fired, another pos thug in uniform comes along and we start all over again. Truly frustrating. But.. the reality the vast majority of cops are good decent folks trying to keep the predators from preying on the weaker citizens. For every video you see of an officer either making an honest error in judgement or a down right criminal of himself, there were 100's of 1000's of citizen contacts that went just fine.

No one is saying cops are perfect, but the fact is, most of them are trying really hard to be...   

Well said. 
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Agnostic007 on May 24, 2011, 06:44:20 AM
Just my .02, the worst thing that occurs in my nabe is that cops never do foot or cycle patrol.   

It would help a ton if cops actually acted like they cared about the local merchants, the local residents and actually once and awhile stoped and just talked to people about daily crap going on. 

instead, around me, all I see are cops speeding like crazy in the cars through red lights and stop signs talking on the phone, hanging out at DD, etc.   

While I concur there are some cops who milk calls, or waste their time at Dunkin Donuts, there may be other factors involved that prevent the foot or bike patrols you recommend.

I will speak using my department as an example. We do have a walking beat and bike patrols in particular areas of town but not all. For many departments it is just not feasible. You have a limited number of cops to patrol x number of square miles. There are calls for service being generated and they have to be answered. Bike and foot patrols for the most part can't respond to those calls unless they are lucky enough to be down the street.

So unless your department has excess manpower and can afford to spare them for the foot or bike patrols, they get more bang for their buck in patrol cars that can respond to the emergency calls in a decent time frame.

Just something to consider   
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 24, 2011, 06:49:13 AM
While I concur there are some cops who milk calls, or waste their time at Dunkin Donuts, there may be other factors involved that prevent the foot or bike patrols you recommend.

I will speak using my department as an example. We do have a walking beat and bike patrols in particular areas of town but not all. For many departments it is just not feasible. You have a limited number of cops to patrol x number of square miles. There are calls for service being generated and they have to be answered. Bike and foot patrols for the most part can't respond to those calls unless they are lucky enough to be down the street.

So unless your department has excess manpower and can afford to spare them for the foot or bike patrols, they get more bang for their buck in patrol cars that can respond to the emergency calls in a decent time frame.

Just something to consider   

I'm talking from a public releations point of view from the guy on the street.   You raise good points, but the merchant whose customers are ticketed endlessly, is harassed by thug teens without end, and then gets treated rudely by cops if the sidewalk is not swept really has a very low perception of police. 


   
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Agnostic007 on May 24, 2011, 06:57:55 AM
I'm talking from a public releations point of view from the guy on the street.   You raise good points, but the merchant whose customers are ticketed endlessly, is harassed by thug teens without end, and then gets treated rudely by cops if the sidewalk is not swept really has a very low perception of police. 


   

We must be from two different worlds, cops here don't care if a sidewalk is swept or not. We also have around 25,000 businesses and 1000 cops who work the streets 24/7. about a 1/3 of them work when businesses are open. Again, while I too would like to see a Mayberry situation where the beat cop could visit each and every merchant, it just isn't feasible. Having said that, we would make a point to visit the merchant who is being harassed by thug teens if they called it in.     
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 24, 2011, 06:59:44 AM
I am in the Bronx and Yonkers, N.Y.
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Agnostic007 on May 24, 2011, 07:18:51 AM
I am in the Bronx and Yonkers, N.Y.

I'm not aware of their manpower issues. I'm also not privy to their oversight system. The larger the department, the bigger the span of control or Supervisor to officer ratio, the more potential there is for unprofessional conduct.

Stepping out on opinion here based just on my observations of other departments I've visited over the years. No matter what department you speak of these days, I believe most cops on the department are there for the right reasons. I think the majority of cops at any given department are good cops. I think the percentage varies based on the individual department. Do they have police oversight? Does their Chief hold them accountable? Is the culture evolved to the 21st century and "good ol boy" tactics and philosophy given way to professionalism? Is there a focus on training? Is the pay adequate to attract a good pool of applicants to choose from?

I think there are a lot of things that play into how good a department is.  Inspite of the pockets of corruption that has come to light over the years (many have come to light because other cops brought it to our attention) most cops are good decent people trying to do their best in a job that is truly difficult to do. We have training and equipment and general orders and SOPs to help us, but while most calls are the same kind, domestic disturbances, fights, burglaries, aggravated assaults, etc etc, each call can be so different. We have to make decisions based on what we know or perceive at the moment and the command staff and public have days to review a video or circumstances and decide we should have done this or that.. To our credit, most of the time we make the right decisions and you never hear about it.

Anyhoo, it truly is disappointing to me when anyone bundles police up in a neat package and hates or dislikes us all. Many people, who are otherwise intelligent, will be anti police because when they were 12 they got warned by a cop for jay walking.. or got a ticket they thought they didn't deserve.. very sad people to hate us all for something like that.

     
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: regmac on May 24, 2011, 07:23:47 AM
Appreciation Day isn't till May, but just some things to keep in mind:

165 officers die in the line of duty annually

1 officer is killed every 54 hours

61,000 officers are assaulted annually

189 officers are assaulted every day

19,000 officers are injured in those assaults

2 officers are shot every day

http://www.nationallead.com/

Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 24, 2011, 07:25:50 AM
I agree with you about the DV stuff.   That stuff seems the most dangerous IMHO.  


Here is what gets me - we have illegals all over the place, day after day after day, drinking, loitering, vandalzing property, etc.   People call all the time and nothing is done, yet there are dzens o traffic cops to give tickets, etc.

The percepton of the average guy is that citizens are viewed as ATM machines and little else while real issues go unaddressed.    

 
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: regmac on May 24, 2011, 07:26:28 AM
Appreciation Day isn't till May, but just some things to keep in mind:

165 officers die in the line of duty annually

1 officer is killed every 54 hours

61,000 officers are assaulted annually

189 officers are assaulted every day

19,000 officers are injured in those assaults

2 officers are shot every day

http://www.nationallead.com/

OK  I work with cops and we have NEVER  ever  ever ever heard of this holiday!
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Agnostic007 on May 24, 2011, 09:01:42 AM
I agree with you about the DV stuff.   That stuff seems the most dangerous IMHO.  


Here is what gets me - we have illegals all over the place, day after day after day, drinking, loitering, vandalzing property, etc.   People call all the time and nothing is done, yet there are dzens o traffic cops to give tickets, etc.

The percepton of the average guy is that citizens are viewed as ATM machines and little else while real issues go unaddressed.    

 

We have a large illegal immigrant population here. The majority work hard monday through friday and don't bother anyone. There is a small small part of that group that drink and drive causing serious issues up to and including death. But for the most part, the worst that happens is on Sundays they play their car stereos while they all drink beer in the apartment parking lot. We'll tell them to turn the music down and they usually do.

I do know that citys tend to count on revenue of ticket writing in their annual budget. I can't blame them because it is a fact that people will speed, run red lights etc and we will write tickets for them. Over the years you can pretty much figure what that will be annually. But for the department and the cops, we could give a sh*t how much revenue we generate. It doesn't matter. What matters is we know that at the intersection of X and Y over the last 6 months we have had 3 fatality colisions due to people running the lights there so we focus on that area. We know more deaths are caused each year  by people violating traffic laws than all the homicides we have  had in the last 5 yrs. So while I'm sure you are right that the civic leaders may view tickets as revenue, the average street cop couldn't care any less about it. So what you may view as the "real issues" perhaps in the scheme of things, aren't the real issues at all.. something to consider.   

Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Agnostic007 on May 24, 2011, 09:03:33 AM
OK  I work with cops and we have NEVER  ever  ever ever heard of this holiday!

Last week was a national memorial week for police, but I'm not aware of any appreciation day
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Dos Equis on May 24, 2011, 12:07:46 PM
I think it's a regional thing.  Not a holiday. 
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Dos Equis on May 25, 2011, 11:45:58 AM
Lubbock police officer saves teenager's life
Posted: Mar 03, 2010
By Katie Bauer - bio | email

LUBBOCK, TX (KCBD) - Lubbock Police Officers respond to thousands of calls a week, and most will tell you every day is different. But LPD says one troubled teen owes her life to officer Garret Winters, and his dash cam video captured the dramatic rescue.

"Officers go into work every day and they really don't know what's ahead of them for the day," said Captain Greg Stevens.

Lubbock Police Officer Garret Winters was responding to a call around 5 p.m. Tuesday afternoon. He drove up to the overpass at North Loop 289 and MLK, when he saw a 17-year-old girl sitting on the edge, ready to jump. "There's no way to really appreciate or understand the thought process or that situation without having to actually stand there and face it," said Stevens.

Stevens says Winters took his time and tried to talk to the girl. Winters kept inching closer, even though she was telling him to stay back. Stevens says Winters remaining calm, cool, and collected, only helped the situation. "I don't think any amount of classroom training or even some hands on training can really prepared officers for every single thing that they are going to face," said Stevens.

Once the girl looked away Winters grabbed her arm and yanked her to safety. "Officer Winters did a very good job," said Stevens.

The 17-year-old girl was taken to a hospital and given an evaluation. Officer Winters' quick thinking could qualify him for a lifesaving award.

http://www.kcbd.com/story/12080469/lubbock-police-officer-saves-teenagers-life
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Dos Equis on May 25, 2011, 11:47:56 AM
Dunwoody Police Officer Saves Life Using Defibrillator
Office Dale Laskowski helps save victim, it was the first save made with the AEDs donated to the Dunwoody Police Department
By Peter Cox | February 15, 2011

A Dunwoody police officer saved a 51-year-old’s life last week, with the help of the city’s new portable defibrillators.

Officer Dale Laskowski reported to a call of a person down on Mile Post Drive around 5:45 p.m. on Thursday, Feb. 3.

When Laskowski arrived, he found the victim unresponsive and not breathing, according to the Dunwoody Police Department.

Laskowski applied the pads of an Automated External Defibrillator (AED) – which were purchased for each officer in the department through local donations –  to the victim and began testing the patient’s signs, police said.

The machine showed no pulse on the victim and that no shock was necessary, so officer began to perform CPR on the victim until the DeKalb County Fire Department arrived.

The victim was taken to St. Joseph’s Hospital and made a full recovery, police said.

The defibrillators were gifted to the city through the “Heart of Dunwoody” program, which raised money to put the machines into the hands of each of the city’s police officers. The program was spearheaded by Dunwoody residents Bob and Kathy Lundsten, who helped raise $75,000 for the effort through donations from dozens of individuals and organizations in the area. The devices were given to the city in the fall of 2009.

Each officer has been trained on the machines, as well as in CPR, the department said.

Lundsten shared the good news with the Dunwoody Homeowners Association Sunday night.

“The city of Dunwoody had its first AED save,” Lundsten said, to plenty of applause.

Lundsten noted that the DHA gave  $7,500 of the funds for the program.

http://dunwoody.patch.com/articles/dunwoody-officer-saves-life-using-aed
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 25, 2011, 11:51:08 AM
Thank you also to the generous people who provided those things. 
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Agnostic007 on May 26, 2011, 08:56:28 AM
Thank you also to the generous people who provided those things. 

absolutely!
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Dos Equis on May 27, 2011, 11:32:48 AM
Lansing police officer saves children from fire
Lt. Garcia: "That was definitely an act of heroism."
10:36 AM, May. 26, 2011

LANSING - A family with two young children was rescued from the roof of a burning home early this morning.

Lansing police and fire officials responded about 2:20 a.m. to the house in the 500 block of S. Pennsylvania Ave.

Lansing police Officer Nate Osborn was able to pull the boys, ages 1 and 2, from the roof before firefighters arrived, police Lt. Noel Garcia said.

In an interview today, Osborn said he climbed on a front porch railing and, surrounded by smoke, reached up to the roof and the boys’ father handed them to Osborn. Three other officers assisted, he said.

By the time the children were off the roof, firefighters had arrived and used a ladder to rescue the man and his wife.

“It’s the job,” Osborn said. “It’s what we’re paid to do. It’s what any one of us would do in that situation.”

The father, a 29-year-old Lansing man, suffered severe but non-life-threatening burns in the fire, officials said. He was taken to Sparrow Hospital and later airlifted to the burn unit at University of Michigan Hospital. The boys and the man’s wife were not injured.

"That was definitely an act of heroism," said police Lt. Noel Garcia.

The fire is being investigated as suspicious, said Steve Mazurek, a Lansing Fire Department spokesman.

Neighbors reported hearing one loud explosion sometime before the fire.

Mazurek said it is believed the fire started in an attached garage.

http://www.lansingstatejournal.com/article/20110526/NEWS01/105260357/Lansing-police-officer-saves-children-from-fire?odyssey=nav|head
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Dos Equis on May 28, 2011, 10:13:19 AM
Cheshire police officer saves a life
Updated: Thursday, 26 May 2011
Published : Thursday, 26 May 2011

CHESHIRE, Conn. (WTNH) - Just before arriving to a West Main Street nursing home on a medical call, a Cheshire police officer found himself facing another medical emergency head on.

"I saw the car swerving, I thought maybe he was on his cell phone, but he kept coming. I tried to slow down and brake as much as possible," says Officer Lorin Webber.

It was another car that wouldn't stop. The police dash cam shows a collision and officer Webber getting out of his cruiser.

"I noticed the guy was not responsive. I couldn't get his door open and the car was still in drive," says Webber.

It was a dangerous situation that in seconds got worse.

"All of a sudden the guy began to have a seizure, convulsions," says Webber.

The six year veteran decided to take a drastic step, he smashed the passenger window open to get to the victim who was barely breathing out of the car.

Fortunately a paramedic was with him going to the initial call.

"It took two of us, to carry him out of the car. We put him on the ground and another emergency medical crew came and did what they had to do," says Webber.

It started out as a scary moment, but it ends as a heroic one for one of Cheshire's Finest.

Initially I went up to the window expecting to yell at the guy, not knowing he was suffering from a major incident. It was surprising," says Webber.

The driver has been treated and released from the hospital.

http://www.wtnh.com/dpp/news/new_haven_cty/cheshire-police-officer-saves-a-life
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Agnostic007 on May 28, 2011, 12:32:59 PM
Cops do some pretty amazing things day in and day out. For me, it's just part of the job and get embarrassed about any accollades given. "It's my job" is something most cops just accept and move on. We have the ocassional glory hound who likes to pad his record with commendations and awards but for the most part, cops are just happy with the ocassional "Officer we appreciate what you do" by the people eating at the next table.

Citizens who step outside their comfort zone and step up when others watch are really heros. I can't tell you how happy it makes me when someone steps up to intervene in a purse snatching, or assault, or gets the LP of the car that just left a burglary, or even calls in on a suspicious car in their neighborhood that turns out to be a burglary suspect with stolen items in their car.

We try and take the time to recognize citizens who do this at our Command Staff meetings. The Chief has them come up, reads off what they did and gives them a citation and a handshake. We could not impact crime without the cooperation of the citizens we are charged with protecting. We are slowly moving from the concept that the police will fix your problems to the police can help you fix your problems but we need to work together. Fortunatley we still have citizens who want to improve their neighborhood and city and that helps us tremendously. So thank YOU to those of you who care enough to get involved in your community     
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 28, 2011, 01:07:31 PM
I wish I lived in your jurisdiction.  Lol.
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Dos Equis on May 28, 2011, 05:56:50 PM
Honoring Glen And Fallen Heroes
Ron Mizutani
By Ron Mizutani
Wednesday - May 25, 2011

(http://www.midweek.com/images/uploads/2011/110525/currents_1.jpg)
Breaking ground for the fallen officers memorial last Monday. Ron Mizutani photo

Standing outside the Kalanimoku Building (Beretania and Punchbowl) for the ground breaking of the Hawaii Law Enforcement Memorial last Monday, my mind drifted back to March 4, 2003.

I was in Ewa covering a real estate story when I received a call from a friend on the police force. Multiple shots were fired at Baskin and Robins at Kapolei Shopping Center. An officer was down. Within minutes we arrived at the busy shopping center and paramedics were working frantically to save the policeman’s life.

“It’s Glen,” my buddy whispered. “Gaspar.”

My stomach instantly knotted up and a sick feeling overwhelmed me. The 40-year-old Gaspar was a 12-year veteran of the force, a respected cop on HPD’s elite career criminal unit, a fellow Kamehameha graduate and a loving dad.

We watched as the ambulance raced him to nearby St. Francis West, where he later died. Gaspar was shot by wanted fugitive Shane Mark while attempting to make an arrest. He was the 37th Honolulu police officer killed in the line of duty this century. That number is now at 42.

I snapped out of my brief trance and looked down at the program handed to all guests. The names of 61 law enforcement officers who made the ultimate sacrifice were listed by department, jurisdiction and island, including our friend Glen Gaspar.

I slipped back in time and recalled a conversation I had with several of Glen’s closest friends a few days after the shooting, each rocked by his death. Veteran officer Malcolm Lutu, who attended Kamehameha with Gaspar, called him “the best plainclothes intelligence officer among the rest of us.” Big Michael Cusumano added, “He served, he protected and he knew what he was doing.

We’re not in denial - anyone of us could’ve been there.”

The fact is too many of our law enforcement officers have “been there.” The memorial is long overdue and when completed, it will be a wonderful tribute to the men and women who have died in the line of duty and a warm place for surviving family members and friends to visit.

Gaspar often participated in the annual Law Enforcement Canoe Regatta. The event features dozens of races, pitting different departments and agencies against each other. It’s a fun day, but make no mistake about it, the officers who compete do so at a high level.

Glen was one of them. I’ve been asked to compete with HPD’s team at the regatta over the years and I’ve enjoyed the brotherhood and sisterhood under their tent. There was always a special bond with this group, that bond strengthened after Gaspar’s death.

Team members proudly wear a jersey that pays tribute to the fallen officer.

It’s nothing fancy. It simply reads “Team Glen” on the back of the jersey.

I can’t tell you how proud I was the first time I was handed one of these jerseys knowing what it symbolized. It gives me chicken skin just thinking about it.

I’m team-mates at Kailua Canoe Club with several of these police officers who proudly serve and protect our community, and continue to honor Glen every year. And like Glen, they too have children, who they say goodbye to everyday, knowing the dangers of their job.

Glen’s daughters were his world. I remember his good friend and fellow officer Kevin Nakano once told me, “Glen was always telling his daughters how much he loved them and how much he missed them. He would always say, ‘Don’t worry, Dad’s going to be home for dinner.”

We must never forget. A memorial honoring our fallen heroes is a good start. The Hawaii Law Enforcement Memorial Foundation still needs to raise $900,000 to build the $1.1 million memorial. For more information on how you can help, go to http://www.hlemf.org or call 330-7744.

(http://www.midweek.com/images/uploads/2011/110525/currents_2.jpg)

http://www.midweek.com/content/columns/currents_article/honoring_glen_and_fallen_heroes/
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: regmac on May 29, 2011, 02:20:07 PM
I think it's a regional thing.  Not a holiday. 
My regards to the Winchell's Donuts in that area!
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: tu_holmes on May 29, 2011, 04:24:09 PM
So far, every single one of these cop stories has nothing to do with crime... That's awesome.

These cops could just be paramedics or EMTs.

1/2 of them are because a paramedic was on the scene or something cool like a defibrillator was available (which doesn't take a badge to work)

So when does someone protect someone because of crime?

PS... The fact that Beach even had to quote me (and it's hardly the first time) shows how much he thinks about me.

How much rent do I owe you for this month Beach?
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Dos Equis on May 29, 2011, 04:41:02 PM
So far, every single one of these cop stories has nothing to do with crime... That's awesome.

These cops could just be paramedics or EMTs.

1/2 of them are because a paramedic was on the scene or something cool like a defibrillator was available (which doesn't take a badge to work)

So when does someone protect someone because of crime?

PS... The fact that Beach even had to quote me (and it's hardly the first time) shows how much he thinks about me.

How much rent do I owe you for this much Beach?


That's really funny.   ;D
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Agnostic007 on May 30, 2011, 07:09:10 AM
I wish I lived in your jurisdiction.  Lol.

I wish you did too. We have citizens who were transplanted from Katrina as well as people from all walks of life and experiences moving here on a regular basis. It's amusing to watch at some council meetings where the usual complainers who make their lively hood complaining about the cops (NAACP, ACLU) talk about how awful the city police are. Then the folks from New Orleans, Houston, and a few other places get up and rant and rave about how they've never been called sir or ma'am by an officer before moving here. How when they are stopped for a traffic violation they don't feel like they have to put both hands out of the window to avoid being shot. They'll tell the other folks that they need to spend a year in Houston to fully appreciate the professionalism of the police here and that they are lucky to have us.

What I've learned over the years at this department is that

 #1. There is a small percentage of police officers who shouldn't be police officers. Eventually they are found out and weeded out. Much of the time it is by police officers. In fact upwards of 70% of police misconduct complaints received by the Police Monitors office or Internal Affairs originates with police officers.

#2. There is a small percentage of the public who will NEVER trust the police no matter what. For some it is in their best interest to dislike them. These are the "leaders" of the anti police groups who without the existence of real or percieved racisim, discrimination etc wouldn't be employed. For others, much like learning about Jesus, or Allah as a child from their family, they learn to hate or distrust the po po. I've seen 6 yr olds with attitude. Others truly have had bad experiences with some bad cops and paint us all with the same broad brush but get their feathers in a ruffle if we were to do the same.

Fortunatley the large majority of the population, at least here, like and respect us because we earn their respect and work hard to keep it. 
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Dos Equis on June 01, 2011, 11:23:17 AM
Officer Saves Driver from Burning Vehicle After Police Pursuit
Posted by Chris Andrus on May 26, 2011

Riverhead, NY (SmithtownRadio.com) – Suffolk County Police have arrested a Mastic man who led police on a seven-mile pursuit and needed rescue after crashing his vehicle into a wooded area in Riverhead.

Seventh Precinct Officer Scott Jensen observed a 1999 Chrysler Concord traveling northbound on County Road 51 in Eastport in an erratic manner and attempted to initiate a traffic stop at approximately 11:15 p.m. last evening. The driver of the Chrysler, Jason Martin, accelerated and led the officer on a pursuit that covered approximately seven miles and lasted approximately five minutes.

At the end of the pursuit, Martin lost control of his vehicle and crossed over the median divider several times before crashing into the wooded area on the east side of County Road 51, causing the vehicle to catch fire. With the driver side door pinned against a tree, Martin needed to be rescued by Officer Jensen, who pulled Martin out of the vehicle via the passenger side door. Martin was then transported by ambulance to Peconic Bay Medical Center in Riverhead for treatment of non-life threatening injuries. Officer Jensen was not injured in the pursuit or rescue operations.

Martin, 29, of 146 Madison Ave., Mastic, was arrested and charged with Aggravated Unlicensed Operation of a Vehicle and Unlawful Fleeing of a Police Officer.

http://www.smithtownradio.com/2011/05/26/1208/officer-saves-driver-from-burning-vehicle-after-police-pursuit/
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Dos Equis on June 01, 2011, 11:25:03 AM
Police say 'very heroic' man saves Bay City driver's life by pulling her from burning car after crash
Published: Tuesday, May 31, 2011, 8:15 PM     Updated: Tuesday, May 31, 2011, 10:24 PM
Tom Gilchrist | The Saginaw News By Tom Gilchrist

FREELAND — Police said a 22-year-old Troy man saved a Bay City woman’s life by pulling her from her burning car here Tuesday afternoon after her vehicle caught fire when it slammed into the back of a pickup truck.

Ryan Hunt, 2155 Lakeside in Troy, rescued 28-year-old Jessica R. Dore following the 5:46 p.m. crash at Tittabawassee and River, according to Tittabawassee Township Police Department Officer Brian J. Berg.

“What he did was very heroic,” Berg said. “The car was on fire, (Dore) was unresponsive and he opened the door and pulled her out.

“I told (Hunt) I was going to nominate him for a lifesaving award, and he said ‘Oh, thanks,’” Berg said. “He’s a modest kid.”

Berg said a Cadillac driven by Dore, 7324 Blake in Bay City, caught fire after her car rear-ended a Ford pickup truck driven by 28-year-old Ryan K. Arsenault of 109 Center Ave., Apt. 9, also in Bay City.

The officer said Arsenault’s truck, facing west on Tittabawassee, was stopped at a stop sign at River when Dore experienced a “medical issue” causing her to rear-end the truck at about 40 mph.

Berg said a doctor who spoke with Dore following the crash told him Dore could have been experiencing problems with her blood-sugar level.

Hunt was in an eastbound vehicle also stopped at the four-way stop at the intersection of Tittabawassee and River, police said, when he noticed the crash and came to Dore’s aid.

Dore and Arsenault both suffered minor injuries and were taken by ambulance to Covenant Medical Center’s Cooper Campus in Saginaw, police said.

Firefighters from the Tittabawassee Township and Thomas Township departments responded to the scene, extinguishing the blaze and keeping it from re-igniting.

The Thomas Township Police Department also assisted at the scene.

http://www.mlive.com/news/saginaw/index.ssf/2011/05/police_say_very_heroic_man_sav.html
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: tu_holmes on June 01, 2011, 11:27:02 AM
That's the best one yet... It was a regular citizen... Not even a cop.

HAHA!

Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Dos Equis on June 01, 2011, 11:30:05 AM
That's the best one yet... It was a regular citizen... Not even a cop.

HAHA!



Wow.  Brilliant observation.  lol . . . .
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: tu_holmes on June 01, 2011, 11:39:22 AM
Wow.  Brilliant observation.  lol . . . .

Shows how hard up you are looking for "law enforcement appreciation"
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Dos Equis on June 01, 2011, 11:40:36 AM
Shows how hard up you are looking for "law enforcement appreciation"

lol.   :)
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Agnostic007 on June 01, 2011, 01:11:58 PM
Shows how hard up you are looking for "law enforcement appreciation"

You seem to infer there is a lack of examples of officers doing good things. Most of the time it's just expected. But the cool ones, that never make the paper are the little things. In all the time I've worked the street I've probably changed 25 tires for the elderly or females stranded on the side of the road. Many of those times it was with a bullet proof vest on in 100 degree Texas heat. Or the countless times people who are lost pull up and ask directions and instead of just telling them how to find the place, I tell them to follow me and take them there. About every other meal someone will come up and ask a legal question or advice on a problem they have with their neighbor.

You have already dismissed the fact we catch bank robbers, burglars, rapists, muggers and killers in the act, or leaving the act so I'm just giving you examples of what we do for the public that never makes the paper nor should it.

   
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: tu_holmes on June 01, 2011, 01:57:01 PM
You seem to infer there is a lack of examples of officers doing good things. Most of the time it's just expected. But the cool ones, that never make the paper are the little things. In all the time I've worked the street I've probably changed 25 tires for the elderly or females stranded on the side of the road. Many of those times it was with a bullet proof vest on in 100 degree Texas heat. Or the countless times people who are lost pull up and ask directions and instead of just telling them how to find the place, I tell them to follow me and take them there. About every other meal someone will come up and ask a legal question or advice on a problem they have with their neighbor.

You have already dismissed the fact we catch bank robbers, burglars, rapists, muggers and killers in the act, or leaving the act so I'm just giving you examples of what we do for the public that never makes the paper nor should it.

   

You catch them? When does this happen? After they already raped, killed, or mugged someone?
 
Thanks for being there to write a report and get those bad guys months if not years.

Go team!
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Skip8282 on June 01, 2011, 05:40:08 PM
You catch them? When does this happen? After they already raped, killed, or mugged someone?
 
Thanks for being there to write a report and get those bad guys months if not years.

Go team!


Did you attempt to be a cop at one time and couldn't cut it?  Is that why you're so bitter?
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: tu_holmes on June 01, 2011, 09:38:19 PM

Did you attempt to be a cop at one time and couldn't cut it?  Is that why you're so bitter?

Nope... got smart.
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Deicide on June 02, 2011, 05:11:28 AM
You seem to infer there is a lack of examples of officers doing good things. Most of the time it's just expected. But the cool ones, that never make the paper are the little things. In all the time I've worked the street I've probably changed 25 tires for the elderly or females stranded on the side of the road. Many of those times it was with a bullet proof vest on in 100 degree Texas heat. Or the countless times people who are lost pull up and ask directions and instead of just telling them how to find the place, I tell them to follow me and take them there. About every other meal someone will come up and ask a legal question or advice on a problem they have with their neighbor.

You have already dismissed the fact we catch bank robbers, burglars, rapists, muggers and killers in the act, or leaving the act so I'm just giving you examples of what we do for the public that never makes the paper nor should it.

   

Why don't you put Timothy Geithner is jail then?, hmm?
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Agnostic007 on June 02, 2011, 07:21:41 AM
Why don't you put Timothy Geithner is jail then?, hmm?

He doesn't reside in my jurisdiction  ::)
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Agnostic007 on June 02, 2011, 07:23:58 AM
You catch them? When does this happen? After they already raped, killed, or mugged someone?
 
Thanks for being there to write a report and get those bad guys months if not years.

Go team!

The below is just one example. Suspect had fired shots at his girlfriend, had led police on a pursuit, was about to carjack some innocent citizens who happened to cross his path, had them at gunpoint when the officer took the shot. So yeah, we catch them...

By Claudia Grisales | Wednesday, May 25, 2011, 01:15 PM

Austin police and city officials this morning awarded Cpl. Javier Bustos, who wounded an armed man following a September police pursuit, the medal of valor, a departmental recognition used to honor courage displayed while on the duty.

On Sept. 25, Bustos shot Pat Allen Faith in the shoulder when Faith raised his gun at other drivers in Southeast Austin following a high-speed chase with police, officials have said. Faith then shot and killed himself, police said.

“What was displayed that day was true bravery,” Police Chief Art Acevedo said before presenting the award to Bustos with Mayor Lee Leffingwell at his side. “Cpl. Bustos did what we trained him to do.”

The award comes days after former Travis County Sheriff Margo Frasier, in her first review as the newly installed police monitor, criticized certain actions of officers and raised concerns about a series of communication failures among 911 operators connected to the September incident.

Acevedo has said his department continues to review the events of that night, while Sgt. Wayne Vincent, president of the Austin police union, has described Frasier’s comments as unreasonable “second-guessing.”

In her memo, Frasier agreed that Bustos appropriately used deadly force.

On Wednesday, Bustos expressed gratitude for the honor, following a standing ovation from dozens of fellow officers, family and friends who attended the event at a police training center in Southeast Austin.

“If I could take this medal and break it into little pieces, I would give it to the people involved that night” along with those who trained me, Bustos said upon receiving the award. “Those officers involved that night, those are my heroes.”

Note: This story has been edited to correctly attribute a quote to Sgt. Wayne Vincent, president of the Austin police union.

 
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: tu_holmes on June 02, 2011, 09:44:04 AM
I would also like to make mention that not ONCE has a cop ever changed a tire for anyone I know... I remember when I was about 13 that a cop rode up on my mother when she had a tire issue... He looked at her... looked at the tire and drove off.

If you've changed tires for people, I can almost guarantee you are in the minority.
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Agnostic007 on June 02, 2011, 09:47:24 AM
I would also like to make mention that not ONCE has a cop ever changed a tire for anyone I know... I remember when I was about 13 that a cop rode up on my mother when she had a tire issue... He looked at her... looked at the tire and drove off.

If you've changed tires for people, I can almost guarantee you are in the minority.

How many people do you know? Of those people how many times have you asked them if a cop changed a tire for them?
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: tu_holmes on June 02, 2011, 09:50:59 AM
How many people do you know? Of those people how many times have you asked them if a cop changed a tire for them?

Personally... many many many hundreds.

I'm sure that in conversations we've all had, that the discussion of police and what they've done for individuals has come up... No one has ever mentioned "Well, that one time a cop changed a tire for me"

You've said you have been on the force for over 20 years right?

So you average changing a little over a tire a year?

That's commendable... I would ask around to your coworkers and see what their number is.
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Deicide on June 02, 2011, 09:53:17 AM
Personally... many many many hundreds.

I'm sure that in conversations we've all had, that the discussion of police and what they've done for individuals has come up... No one has ever mentioned "Well, that one time a cop changed a tire for me"

You've said you have been on the force for over 20 years right?

So you average changing a little over a tire a year?

That's commendable... I would ask around to your coworkers and see what their number is.

Renegade Shepard FTW  ;)
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Agnostic007 on June 02, 2011, 09:59:58 AM
Personally... many many many hundreds.

I'm sure that in conversations we've all had, that the discussion of police and what they've done for individuals has come up... No one has ever mentioned "Well, that one time a cop changed a tire for me"

You've said you have been on the force for over 20 years right?

So you average changing a little over a tire a year?

That's commendable... I would ask around to your coworkers and see what their number is.

I've worked back office as a Detective for some of that time. Back in the day there were no cell phones and stranded people literally relied on either strangers kindness or cops who cared. I think now adays most people as well as cops tend to assume they've called someone or a tow service. But I know of cops who recently have helped people change a tire. But being honest i know of cops who wouldn't do it with a gun pointed to their heads.     
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Dos Equis on June 02, 2011, 12:16:05 PM
Personally... many many many hundreds.

I'm sure that in conversations we've all had, that the discussion of police and what they've done for individuals has come up... No one has ever mentioned "Well, that one time a cop changed a tire for me"

You've said you have been on the force for over 20 years right?

So you average changing a little over a tire a year?

That's commendable... I would ask around to your coworkers and see what their number is.

I've seen them on the road helping people having car trouble countless times.  Saw one this week. 

You really must live in a Michael Jackson bubble.   :)
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: tu_holmes on June 03, 2011, 01:48:49 PM
I've seen them on the road helping people having car trouble countless times.  Saw one this week. 

You really must live in a Michael Jackson bubble.   :)

Please. That's twice you've used that analogy. This time was just as ignorant as the first.

Even agnostic admits that he knows cops that refuse to do it.

If anyone is living in a bubble. It's you.
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Dos Equis on June 03, 2011, 01:56:17 PM
Please. That's twice you've used that analogy. This time was just as ignorant as the first.

Even agnostic admits that he knows cops that refuse to do it.

If anyone is living in a bubble. It's you.

I used it twice?  I must be slipping.   :)  Hey if the shoe fits. 

I'm sure there are cops that refuse to do it.  But there are plenty who do it.  I've seen them, more times than I can count. 
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: tu_holmes on June 03, 2011, 02:53:10 PM
I used it twice?  I must be slipping.   :)  Hey if the shoe fits. 

I'm sure there are cops that refuse to do it.  But there are plenty who do it.  I've seen them, more times than I can count. 

Oh, I'm sure you can count higher than 2 or 3... don't sell yourself short. Just a little effort and I bet you can even get to four or five.

;)
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 04, 2011, 11:29:30 AM
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The Riverside police officer struck by lightning while helping with the Joplin tornado died this morning at a Springfield hospital.

Jefferson “Jeff” Taylor, who volunteered to go to Joplin, was 31 years old. He is the first Riverside officer ever to die in the line of duty.

“We are heartbroken,” Riverside Police Chief Greg Mills said today in a statement. “Our department, our community and law enforcement as a whole have lost a dedicated professional doing what he did best — helping those who were in need. The fragility of life gives way to the enduring spirit Jeff showed to us all. Our department will never be the same.”

Taylor was one of a dozen emergency responders from Riverside to rush to Joplin after the tornado hit May 22.

The following day, as thunderstorms moved through the area, lightning struck the ground near where he was working.

Public safety officers performed CPR and stabilized him at the scene. Taylor later underwent successful skin graft surgery and was being treated for other complications when he died at 9:25 a.m. at St. John’s Hospital.

Family members were at his side.

Riverside police officials say Taylor joined the department in 2005 and held the rank of master patrolman. He was the department’s Officer of the Year in 2008.
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 07, 2011, 07:20:37 PM
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New York deputy sheriff killed, wife goes into labor
reuteurs ^ | Jun 7, 2011 | Reuters
Posted on June 7, 2011 8:43:38 PM EDT by Flavius

A deputy sheriff in upstate New York was fatally shot while trying to calm a man attempting suicide, and his death prompted his wife to go into labor on Tuesday with their second child, authorities said.

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Damn. 
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Dos Equis on June 08, 2011, 10:43:03 AM
Traffic cop saves 71-year-old woman's life
3:29 PM, Jun 7, 2011
Written by
Jeffrey Wolf

WESTMINSTER - A woman's encounter with a traffic officer saved her life on Tuesday.

Westminster Police say Officer Bret Koester was looking for traffic violators near 120th Avenue and Huron Street when people at a nearby restaurant called 911 because a woman there was choking.

The 71-year-old woman went into the bathroom and that is when the food got stuck in her throat.

Koester and another officer went to the restaurant and found the woman in the bathroom after she had lost consciousness. Koester performed the Heimlich maneuver and then started CPR while waiting for paramedics.

When they arrived, the woman had started breathing again and had a pulse.

She was taken to a local hospital and Koester went back to work.

Anyone who wants to learn more about the Heimlich or what to do if you're alone and start to choke can visit http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/first-aid-choking/FA00025.

http://www.9news.com/news/local/article/202245/346/Traffic-cop-saves-71-year-old-womans-life-?odyssey=mod|newswell|text|FRONTPAGE|t
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Dos Equis on June 12, 2011, 10:12:42 PM
Police Officer Saves Baby From Choking
8-Month-Old Chokes On Plastic Fish Toy
POSTED: 12:45 pm EDT June 9, 2011

PORT ST. LUCIE, Fla. -- A Port St. Lucie police officer is being credited with saving an infant from choking to death.

Port St. Lucie police said Officer John Fazio was called to a Southeast Cavern Avenue home Wednesday night and arrived to find a mother and her 8-month-old child in the front yard.

Police said the child was apparently choking, so Fazio put his fingers down the boy's throat to clear his airway. Police said he eventually used forceps to remove a plastic toy fish from the boy's throat.

This is not the first time Fazio has been credited with saving the life of a child. In January, police said Fazio assisted in resuscitating a 16-month-old who nearly drowned in a pool.

http://www.wpbf.com/news/28183825/detail.html
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Dos Equis on June 14, 2011, 07:00:42 PM
2011 National Day of Prayer
May 31, 2011 By Chelsea_Spencer

We’d like to invite you to participate in the National Day of Prayer for Law Enforcement Officers on Friday, June 17. To date (June 7), 80 law enforcement officers have been killed in the line of duty in this country in 2011. That means there are 80 sets of families, friends, and coworkers who have been left in grief and sadness. To honor these heroes, we are asking people of all faiths and all walks of life to come together and pray for the officers still working the streets.

As law enforcement family members, we pray every day that our officers return home safely. We cry at the news of another fallen officer. And, we reach out to the law enforcement community around us for support and reassurance. Now we are asking the community around us to do the same. Please make a commitment to support your law enforcement officers and their families. Please set aside some time on Friday, June 17 to stand united in prayer for our men and women in blue. Please spread word of this campaign to your family, friends, coworkers, and places of worship.

If you can, schedule a time to come together at your city hall, a local park, or your place of worship and pray together. Raise your voice to lift up our heroes in prayer. Give your time to help strengthen the law enforcement community and ask that each officers comes home safely each day. Show our officers that you appreciate the sacrifices they make to protect and serve you and your family.

http://www.wivesbehindthebadge.org/events/2011-national-day-of-prayer/
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 15, 2011, 06:04:41 AM
As many on here know, my sister is a cop.  She has been on the force going on 16 years now.  She has been shot three times and has an artificial knee because of getting run over by a drunk driver trying to flee in reverse after she pulled him over.

Guess what?

IT AIN'T HER FUCKING JOB TO CHANGE A FUCKING FLAT TIRE.  SHE DOESN'T GET PAID FOR THAT SHIT.  THAT IS WHAT THE FUCKING ROAD RANGER PUBLIC SERVICE IS FOR.

If you are equating changing a fucking tire with the police in doing their job you are just full of shit then.  90% of cops are good people overall.  There are bad apples, but you are going to find bad apples in every profession.  Doctors, nurses, teachers, astronauts, military, call center, etc..  every profession out there has bad apples in it.

My sister has done more good than harm.  Likewise her fellow officers that report to her.  I can't tell you the number of scholarships and life opportunities she has saved people because of making judgement calls in the field in their favor instead of just being a hard ass and just arresting them.
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: roccoginge on June 15, 2011, 06:23:21 AM
I would also like to make mention that not ONCE has a cop ever changed a tire for anyone I know... I remember when I was about 13 that a cop rode up on my mother when she had a tire issue... He looked at her... looked at the tire and drove off.

If you've changed tires for people, I can almost guarantee you are in the minority.
I've had a few cops help me, after searching me and my car!
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Agnostic007 on June 15, 2011, 09:55:21 AM
I've had a few cops help me, after searching me and my car!

See? We are helpful!
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: tu_holmes on June 16, 2011, 12:37:08 AM
As many on here know, my sister is a cop.  She has been on the force going on 16 years now.  She has been shot three times and has an artificial knee because of getting run over by a drunk driver trying to flee in reverse after she pulled him over.

Guess what?

IT AIN'T HER FUCKING JOB TO CHANGE A FUCKING FLAT TIRE.  SHE DOESN'T GET PAID FOR THAT SHIT.  THAT IS WHAT THE FUCKING ROAD RANGER PUBLIC SERVICE IS FOR.

If you are equating changing a fucking tire with the police in doing their job you are just full of shit then.  90% of cops are good people overall.  There are bad apples, but you are going to find bad apples in every profession.  Doctors, nurses, teachers, astronauts, military, call center, etc..  every profession out there has bad apples in it.

My sister has done more good than harm.  Likewise her fellow officers that report to her.  I can't tell you the number of scholarships and life opportunities she has saved people because of making judgement calls in the field in their favor instead of just being a hard ass and just arresting them.

Did she or did she not choose that job?

Sorry dude... but I've had friends who are cops who were killed in the line of duty by their own damn fault.

I'm sure your sister is a fine person, but if you are a cop, well, I guess you gotta take the job with the job right?

What does she get paid to do then? Hassle John Q public?

I seriously have no idea why I even respond to this thread anymore... I think our tally on people who like cops vs. people who don't is about 5 to 30 in the threads going on about the Po-Po right now.

Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 16, 2011, 06:12:39 AM
Of course she chose that job.  But changing fucking flat tires is not in her job description.  Her job description is to serve and protect the public through the enforcement of laws.  That is what she gets paid to do.  Since when is having a flat tire breaking a law?  If that is in her job duties then why stop there?  Let's call the police every time we need a movie taken back to Blockbuster before we get hit with a late fee.  What about that?

People that fucking cry and whine about the cops are going to do so regardless.  You are making a big deal about changing a flat tire, but I gurantee you that if you started seeing cops out on the road changing tires you would just start crying about them doing that and not out stopping crime somewhere.
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Agnostic007 on June 16, 2011, 06:40:16 AM
Did she or did she not choose that job?

Sorry dude... but I've had friends who are cops who were killed in the line of duty by their own damn fault. No, you haven't. You're simply made that up

I'm sure your sister is a fine person, but if you are a cop, well, I guess you gotta take the job with the job right?

What does she get paid to do then? Hassle John Q public?

I seriously have no idea why I even respond to this thread anymore... I think our tally on people who like cops vs. people who don't is about 5 to 30 in the threads going on about the Po-Po right now.


Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: tu_holmes on June 16, 2011, 08:59:30 AM


Bullshit... I'm not making anything up.

I have a former State Police officer (who was a real friend) who was killed in the line of duty because THEY pulled someone over and then stepped out of their car into oncoming traffic.

So tell me I'm lying again?

This is the problem right here... As a cop, you are instantly saying that everyone is lying but you... My word is JUST as valid as yours even though I don't carry a badge, and it's probably MORE valid than 1/2 of your co-workers.



Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 16, 2011, 09:05:28 AM
No one disputes the individual acts of heroism and good deeds individuals make.  that's not the issue IMHO, its the overall militarization and tactics and stanc the police departments as a whole take in this country. 
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Agnostic007 on June 16, 2011, 09:09:52 AM
No one disputes the individual acts of heroism and good deeds individuals make.  that's not the issue IMHO, its the overall militarization and tactics and stanc the police departments as a whole take in this country. 

But it's not "as a whole". Police departments are jurisdictional. And how do you mean militarization exactly? That's a pretty general term. That the military and police use guns, wear uniforms? As far as tactics, police generally have developed tactics from trial and error over 100 yrs. As bad guys aresenals and tactics change, the police adapt.
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: tu_holmes on June 16, 2011, 09:13:12 AM
No one disputes the individual acts of heroism and good deeds individuals make.  that's not the issue IMHO, its the overall militarization and tactics and stanc the police departments as a whole take in this country.  

Exactly... I'm not saying that Agnostic isn't doing his job well, or that certain other people aren't doing their job well, but yet, I'm some evil person to them because there are many people in their line of work who don't.

Don't we generally agree that government fucks up? Aren't those people just human as well? Aren't police offers government employees? Doesn't that mean that they will fuck up? (Not all, but quite a few)

Also, why is it so bad to say that cops are fucking up? If I work for a videogame company and a team I work with puts out a bad product, I easily admit it is bad and that it should have been done better. I'm not an asshole for that, but I'm an asshole for saying that cop or group of cops is fucking up?

Why is it that saying something bad about a cop is considered so horrible, even when it's true?
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 16, 2011, 09:15:20 AM
But it's not "as a whole". Police departments are jurisdictional. And how do you mean militarization exactly? That's a pretty general term. That the military and police use guns, wear uniforms? As far as tactics, police generally have developed tactics from trial and error over 100 yrs. As bad guys aresenals and tactics change, the police adapt.



Officers went from formal uniforms to BDU's and soldier like apparel.   Squad cars now where I am resemble battle tanks.  Cops refer to people as "civilians", and on and on and on.  

"Bad Guys" weapons?   GMAFB.    Those instances where cops are in street battles requiring M4's, Armoured Personell carriers, etc are so rare its ridiculous.  Yet - every outfit near me is getting all geared up, etc.    

Where I live the cops now have these  "ESU" vehicles that resemble battering rams ad look like they areabout to go to the front lines of major combat.

    

  

  
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Agnostic007 on June 16, 2011, 09:25:40 AM
Bullshit... I'm not making anything up.

I have a former State Police officer (who was a real friend) who was killed in the line of duty because THEY pulled someone over and then stepped out of their car into oncoming traffic.

So tell me I'm lying again?

This is the problem right here... As a cop, you are instantly saying that everyone is lying but you... My word is JUST as valid as yours even though I don't carry a badge, and it's probably MORE valid than 1/2 of your co-workers.

I operate as most humans do or should, on the concept of "whats more likely?"

I've been in Law Enforcement since 1982. While I've had some co-workers or people I knew killed in the line of duty, I've been fortunate enough not to lose any friends. Now for you to say you lost A friend, who was a cop, who was killed in the line of duty, well I could buy that. Even though you apparently dislike cops with a passion bordering on irrational, you just MIGHT have had a friend who was a cop, who was killed in the line of duty.

But when you say you have friends who were cops and all were killed in the line of duty, and all because of their own fault well that just defies the odds. And since I don't know you all that well, but have clearly seen your hatred of cops and authority, I simply ask what is more likely, that you had cops that were friends of yours, who were killed in the line of duty because of their own fault, or are you embellishing the facts to bolster your position? Basing it on that, I can safely conclude you are embellishing. I base it on the probabililty... which is highly unlikely

No offense

  




Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Agnostic007 on June 16, 2011, 09:27:45 AM
Sorry, my response was mixed up with your qoute.. I seperated them here......



I operate as most humans do or should, on the concept of "whats more likely?"

I've been in Law Enforcement since 1982. While I've had some co-workers or people I knew killed in the line of duty, I've been fortunate enough not to lose any friends. Now for you to say you lost A friend, who was a cop, who was killed in the line of duty, well I could buy that. Even though you apparently dislike cops with a passion bordering on irrational, you just MIGHT have had a friend who was a cop, who was killed in the line of duty.

But when you say you have friends who were cops and all were killed in the line of duty, and all because of their own fault well that just defies the odds. And since I don't know you all that well, but have clearly seen your hatred of cops and authority, I simply ask what is more likely, that you had cops that were friends of yours, who were killed in the line of duty because of their own fault, or are you embellishing the facts to bolster your position? Basing it on that, I can safely conclude you are embellishing. I base it on the probabililty... which is highly unlikely

No offense
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Agnostic007 on June 16, 2011, 09:29:08 AM
Exactly... I'm not saying that Agnostic isn't doing his job well, or that certain other people aren't doing their job well, but yet, I'm some evil person to them because there are many people in their line of work who don't.

Don't we generally agree that government fucks up? Aren't those people just human as well? Aren't police offers government employees? Doesn't that mean that they will fuck up? (Not all, but quite a few)

Also, why is it so bad to say that cops are fucking up? If I work for a videogame company and a team I work with puts out a bad product, I easily admit it is bad and that it should have been done better. I'm not an asshole for that, but I'm an asshole for saying that cop or group of cops is fucking up?

Why is it that saying something bad about a cop is considered so horrible, even when it's true?

Cops fuck up. While you aren't saying all cops are fuck ups, I'm not saying all cops are not fuck ups. I think we disagree on the level of fuck up going on...
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: tu_holmes on June 16, 2011, 09:46:08 AM


That's not what I said... I did not say that I had friends and they were all killed and it was always their fault. Who the fuck would say that all of their friends are fuckups?

To be specific... I have known only 1 cop friend who was killed in the line of duty and it was in fact, their own fault.

I will even apologize for using the "plural" in that instance as it does confuse the point I was making.
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: tu_holmes on June 16, 2011, 09:47:52 AM
Of course she chose that job.  But changing fucking flat tires is not in her job description.  Her job description is to serve and protect the public through the enforcement of laws.  That is what she gets paid to do.  Since when is having a flat tire breaking a law?  If that is in her job duties then why stop there?  Let's call the police every time we need a movie taken back to Blockbuster before we get hit with a late fee.  What about that?

People that fucking cry and whine about the cops are going to do so regardless.  You are making a big deal about changing a flat tire, but I gurantee you that if you started seeing cops out on the road changing tires you would just start crying about them doing that and not out stopping crime somewhere.

They don't stop crime now... There are areas in the city I'm currently in where if a shooting call comes in about the area, they simply do not go. They are either:

1. Lazy
2. Scared
3. Uncaring

Take your pick.
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 16, 2011, 09:49:57 AM
Focus is increasingly on generating revenue via tickets, infractions, etc.  Serves a 2 fer.

1.  Get the locality more revenue 

2.  Generate OT   
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Agnostic007 on June 16, 2011, 10:23:50 AM
That's not what I said... I did not say that I had friends and they were all killed and it was always their fault. Who the fuck would say that all of their friends are fuckups?

To be specific... I have known only 1 cop friend who was killed in the line of duty and it was in fact, their own fault.

I will even apologize for using the "plural" in that instance as it does confuse the point I was making.

"Sorry dude... but I've had friends who are cops who were killed in the line of duty by their own damn fault. "

Fair enough, your original statement stated you had more than one. If that isn't the case then I retract my statement that it isn't true.
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Dos Equis on June 16, 2011, 10:44:42 AM
No one disputes the individual acts of heroism and good deeds individuals make. 

tu holmes does. 
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Dos Equis on June 16, 2011, 10:47:55 AM


Officers went from formal uniforms to BDU's and soldier like apparel.   Squad cars now where I am resemble battle tanks.  Cops refer to people as "civilians", and on and on and on.  

"Bad Guys" weapons?   GMAFB.    Those instances where cops are in street battles requiring M4's, Armoured Personell carriers, etc are so rare its ridiculous.  Yet - every outfit near me is getting all geared up, etc.    

Where I live the cops now have these  "ESU" vehicles that resemble battering rams ad look like they areabout to go to the front lines of major combat.
  

The only place where you see "militarized" cops are in high crime neighborhoods.  I don't have a problem with cops doing whatever than can to protect themselves, while they risk their lives to protect the public.
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 16, 2011, 10:53:19 AM
Problem is that its creating and inflaming the "us vs them" attitude to where regular people no longer care, trust, or give a damn bout the cops. 

We have no foot patrols whatsoever, but guess what?  We have cops hiding in corners at 8:30 am pulling over people on their way to work for bullshit. 

This is all creating an environment to where even law abiding citizens hate the police, myself included.  I really dont give a damn any more as I see the cops' priorities focused on revenue generation more than actually policing.

It took me a long time to come to this, but  when I see the average cop near me - all I see ia greedy govt employee whose sole purpose is to harass, enrich himsel with pension enhancements and OT, and protect the nanny state and insane level of taxation required to keep funding them. 

I'm not kidding, where I live, if we had no cops at all, no one would probably notice one bit.         
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Dos Equis on June 16, 2011, 12:36:01 PM
Problem is that its creating and inflaming the "us vs them" attitude to where regular people no longer care, trust, or give a damn bout the cops. 

We have no foot patrols whatsoever, but guess what?  We have cops hiding in corners at 8:30 am pulling over people on their way to work for bullshit. 

This is all creating an environment to where even law abiding citizens hate the police, myself included.  I really dont give a damn any more as I see the cops' priorities focused on revenue generation more than actually policing.

It took me a long time to come to this, but  when I see the average cop near me - all I see ia greedy govt employee whose sole purpose is to harass, enrich himsel with pension enhancements and OT, and protect the nanny state and insane level of taxation required to keep funding them. 

I'm not kidding, where I live, if we had no cops at all, no one would probably notice one bit.         

I'm not fond of cops who set speed traps for the purposes of meeting quotas, but other than that I like their presence.  I don't see them as the enemy.  I know enough cops to know they really are committed to serving the public, and are willing to put their life on the line to do so. 

If we had no cops at all we would be post Katrina New Orleans.   
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 16, 2011, 12:39:48 PM
I'm not fond of cops who set speed traps for the purposes of meeting quotas, but other than that I like their presence.  I don't see them as the enemy.  I know enough cops to know they really are committed to serving the public, and are willing to put their life on the line to do so. 

If we had no cops at all we would be post Katrina New Orleans.   

Problem with Katrina were the vermin and animals inhabiting the joint. 
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 16, 2011, 12:50:53 PM
"Sorry dude... but I've had friends who are cops who were killed in the line of duty by their own damn fault. "

Fair enough, your original statement stated you had more than one. If that isn't the case then I retract my statement that it isn't true.

Not to mention his own back pedaling from several friends - as he used the plural form - to now just a single person.

 ::)
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 16, 2011, 12:56:48 PM
I'm not fond of cops who set speed traps for the purposes of meeting quotas,

Actually the thing about having quotas is a myth.  There is no limit or minimum to the number of tickets or citations they have to give. 
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: tu_holmes on June 16, 2011, 01:08:26 PM
Actually the thing about having quotas is a myth.  There is no limit or minimum to the number of tickets or citations they have to give. 

There is no "official" policy... but there is an "understood" amount of tickets that you should write in most jurisdictions.

Do not kid yourself... I have it from the horse's mouth on this.
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Dos Equis on June 16, 2011, 01:09:06 PM
Problem with Katrina were the vermin and animals inhabiting the joint. 

Not really.  I think we would see the same scenario in any major city.  
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Dos Equis on June 16, 2011, 01:10:14 PM
Actually the thing about having quotas is a myth.  There is no limit or minimum to the number of tickets or citations they have to give. 

That's partly true.  There is no specific number.  But a highway patrol officer's productivity is measured in part by how many tickets he or she writes.
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: tu_holmes on June 16, 2011, 01:11:19 PM
Not to mention his own back pedaling from several friends - as he used the plural form - to now just a single person.

 ::)

I didn't back pedal... I said I've had friends... I don't know what planet you live on... As I said... I misused the plural and was being general... I specified my point, so just deal with the fact that I am not making shit up and know what I'm talking about.

Your sister has been hurt a lot in the line of duty you said? Maybe she should find a new line of work... something she might be good at?
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: tu_holmes on June 16, 2011, 01:12:10 PM
tu holmes does. 

Keep my name out of your mouth you fucktard.

I spoke my own words and agreed with 333s statement... so go fuck yourself.
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Skip8282 on June 16, 2011, 01:17:14 PM
That's partly true.  There is no specific number.  But a highway patrol officer's productivity is measured in part by how many tickets he or she writes.


I don't know about highway patrol, but my brother also told me it's a bunch of bunk.  They could care less how many citations he writes. 

He also noted that if there ever were such a policy, it could be used to cast reasonable doubt, so they don't even bother with it.
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Dos Equis on June 16, 2011, 01:17:32 PM
Keep my name out of your mouth you fucktard.

I spoke my own words and agreed with 333s statement... so go fuck yourself.


LOL!  You are trying too hard.   :)
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Dos Equis on June 16, 2011, 01:19:01 PM

I don't know about highway patrol, but my brother also told me it's a bunch of bunk.  They could care less how many citations he writes. 

He also noted that if there ever were such a policy, it could be used to cast reasonable doubt, so they don't even bother with it.

I've talked to at least a couple officers who told me they do get evaluated based on volume.  If you look at where some of the speed traps are set, it's so obvious that they are designed to generate tickets. 
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: tu_holmes on June 16, 2011, 01:27:56 PM
LOL!  You are trying too hard.   :)

No, I'm tired of your fucking mouth is all.

You don't like what I have to say, fine... but don't fucking lie.
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Dos Equis on June 16, 2011, 01:32:15 PM
No, I'm tired of your fucking mouth is all.

You don't like what I have to say, fine... but don't fucking lie.

Grow up.  Quit crying about stuff posted on a friggin message board.  This is not real life. 

And I will say whatever the heck I want.  HTH.   :)
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Skip8282 on June 16, 2011, 01:32:48 PM
I've talked to at least a couple officers who told me they do get evaluated based on volume.  If you look at where some of the speed traps are set, it's so obvious that they are designed to generate tickets. 




Well of course they're going to set up speed traps to get the most amount of offenders with the least amount of effort - that's just smart, efficient work.

Like I said, don't know about highway patrol, but as for Dallas PD, they could care less.
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: tu_holmes on June 16, 2011, 01:34:02 PM
Grow up.  Quit crying about stuff posted on a friggin message board.  This is not real life. 

And I will say whatever the heck I want.  HTH.   :)

Yes.. it helps everyone understand the kind of piece of shit you really are.

Oh... ps. Meltdown.
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Dos Equis on June 16, 2011, 01:38:06 PM



Well of course they're going to set up speed traps to get the most amount of offenders with the least amount of effort - that's just smart, efficient work.

Like I said, don't know about highway patrol, but as for Dallas PD, they could care less.

Why would they need to get the most amount of offenders if it doesn't matter how many tickets they write? 
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Dos Equis on June 16, 2011, 01:38:55 PM
Yes.. it helps everyone understand the kind of piece of shit you really are.

Oh... ps. Meltdown.

lol  What are you like 16 years old?  lol
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: The Showstoppa on June 16, 2011, 01:40:17 PM
Why would they need to get the most amount of offenders if it doesn't matter how many tickets they write? 

I think he means that it is more efficient, for example to set it up in an area where you are actually going to catch speeders, vs out in the middle of nowhere in a spot you might only see 1 car in a 3 hr period.  It's just efficient use of time and resources.  It's also more about deterrence than anything else.
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: tu_holmes on June 16, 2011, 01:40:50 PM
lol  What are you like 16 years old?  lol

I'm not the one talking shit... You're the one acting like a child.

Tu says this, Tu says that... blah blah blah.

You're a sad sad man.
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Dos Equis on June 16, 2011, 01:44:29 PM
I think he means that it is more efficient, for example to set it up in an area where you are actually going to catch speeders, vs out in the middle of nowhere in a spot you might only see 1 car in a 3 hr period.  It's just efficient use of time and resources.  It's also more about deterrence than anything else.

Perhaps.  I don't think many of the speed traps I see are about safety (although I agree they serve as a deterrent).  We have one notorious trap on the freeway, where the speed limit drops from 60 to 35 in an insanely short period of time, while you're still on the freeway.  Writing tickets in that area doesn't have squat to do with safety.
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 16, 2011, 02:11:57 PM
Not really.  I think we would see the same scenario in any major city.  

Not true - look at all the recent tornadoes and devastaton across the south and mid west.  No such similar behavior.   
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Agnostic007 on June 16, 2011, 04:58:30 PM
Problem is that its creating and inflaming the "us vs them" attitude to where regular people no longer care, trust, or give a damn bout the cops. 

We have no foot patrols whatsoever, but guess what?  We have cops hiding in corners at 8:30 am pulling over people on their way to work for bullshit. 

This is all creating an environment to where even law abiding citizens hate the police, myself included.  I really dont give a damn any more as I see the cops' priorities focused on revenue generation more than actually policing.

It took me a long time to come to this, but  when I see the average cop near me - all I see ia greedy govt employee whose sole purpose is to harass, enrich himsel with pension enhancements and OT, and protect the nanny state and insane level of taxation required to keep funding them. 

I'm not kidding, where I live, if we had no cops at all, no one would probably notice one bit.         

I had you pegged for being smarter than that... so you are right, we do fuck up  ;D
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Agnostic007 on June 16, 2011, 05:08:13 PM
I've talked to at least a couple officers who told me they do get evaluated based on volume.  If you look at where some of the speed traps are set, it's so obvious that they are designed to generate tickets. 

Police fall under different catagories. While you (not YOU but the general public) may see a "cop", what you may be looking at is a highway enforcement officer, or a S.T.E.P. patrol, or a D.W.I. patrol or just a regular patrol 911 call taker...

Under those different groups, there are different priorities or purposes..

Highway enforcement mainly patrols highways looking for 18 wheelers with safety violations, or driving infractions who mainly write tickets.

S.T.E.P patrol is regular officers on overtime assignments being paid by a federal grant to enforce different violations. It may be seat belt, or aggressive driving, or speeding. That is their main focus

DWI obviously mainly looks for intoxicated drivers

Motor Officers (motorcycle) mainly write traffic tickets or help with traffic collisions

Regular patrol officers respond to 911 calls for service, enforce traffic laws if they have time, and make arrests for various crimes.

So it really depends on who you ask as to the answer you will get. Patrol officers could not care less about writing a ticket and usually will only write the most blatant violations because they hardly have time to eat between calls.

Traffic enforcement mainly write traffic tickets and arrest on traffic warrants.. So while they do not have qoutas, if 9 of their co workers are averaging 15 tickets a shift, and Johnny is only writing 5, he will be asked why.   
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Dos Equis on June 16, 2011, 05:42:05 PM
Not true - look at all the recent tornadoes and devastaton across the south and mid west.  No such similar behavior.   

They aren't similar disasters.  Joplin was somewhat similar, but on a much smaller scale.  I'm talking about when a disaster shuts down an entire big city. 
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Dos Equis on June 16, 2011, 05:43:43 PM
Police fall under different catagories. While you (not YOU but the general public) may see a "cop", what you may be looking at is a highway enforcement officer, or a S.T.E.P. patrol, or a D.W.I. patrol or just a regular patrol 911 call taker...

Under those different groups, there are different priorities or purposes..

Highway enforcement mainly patrols highways looking for 18 wheelers with safety violations, or driving infractions who mainly write tickets.

S.T.E.P patrol is regular officers on overtime assignments being paid by a federal grant to enforce different violations. It may be seat belt, or aggressive driving, or speeding. That is their main focus

DWI obviously mainly looks for intoxicated drivers

Motor Officers (motorcycle) mainly write traffic tickets or help with traffic collisions

Regular patrol officers respond to 911 calls for service, enforce traffic laws if they have time, and make arrests for various crimes.

So it really depends on who you ask as to the answer you will get. Patrol officers could not care less about writing a ticket and usually will only write the most blatant violations because they hardly have time to eat between calls.

Traffic enforcement mainly write traffic tickets and arrest on traffic warrants.. So while they do not have qoutas, if 9 of their co workers are averaging 15 tickets a shift, and Johnny is only writing 5, he will be asked why.   

Makes sense.  Thanks for the clarification. 
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Agnostic007 on June 16, 2011, 05:57:19 PM
Makes sense.  Thanks for the clarification. 

And thanks for the support  ;)
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Dos Equis on June 17, 2011, 10:56:54 AM
Police Officer Saves Family from Burning Home
Monday, 13 June 2011 18:01 | Written by Lisa Tipton

Alertness and quick thinking helped an Early Police officer save the lives of a young family from their burning home on Lucas Drive early Saturday morning, according to Early Police Chief David Mercer.

Early Police Officer Steven Means was on patrol in the city of Early when he noted the smell of smoke in the area of Early Blvd. and Lucas Drive Saturday morning around 3:00am.  Means located the fire coming from the rooftop of a house in the 100 block of Lucas Drive and immediately called to have fire units dispatched to the fire.

Mercer said that Means began knocking on the door and initially didn’t get any answer; however he did hear the smoke alarms going off in the home but could not see any movement.  As he was preparing to make a forced entry into the home, he saw a female get up from a bed near the window.  Officer Means alerted the female of the fire and helped her, her husband, and their 9-month-old baby get out of the house.

Mercer said that Officer Stephanie Haile arrived to assist Officer Means and together they searched the house to make sure no one else was in the home and then removed the family pets.  The home was damaged, but not a total loss according to Chief Mercer.

“Steven did good and I don’t think he realized the fact that he probably saved their lives until he and I were discussing it,” stated Chief Mercer.  “He said he was just doing his job, which is what makes him a great asset for this department and city.”

http://www.brownwoodnews.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5467:police-officer-saves-family-from-burning-home&catid=35:news&Itemid=58
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 17, 2011, 11:28:12 AM
Your sister has been hurt a lot in the line of duty you said? Maybe she should find a new line of work... something she might be good at?

Like changing tires for sissies like you who can't?
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: tu_holmes on June 17, 2011, 12:09:12 PM
Like changing tires for sissies like you who can't?

I'm not the one "serving the public". I just call my auto-club... but that's ME.

Also, this wasn't about changing tires... It was about helping. My point was that my mother was stranded on the side of the road and a cop just rolled by her... didn't even ask if she was ok or anything. Just looked at her and left.

Sadly enough, I've stopped by a cop who was in an accident in his own personal car... I offered him a ride, but he turned it down after using my cell phone to call someone and  to wait for another deputy to file a report.

Then, as a kind gesture, I drove to his house and picked up his wife and brought her to the scene so she could see him and make sure he was ok.

No cop would ever do something like that...
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Agnostic007 on June 17, 2011, 03:06:07 PM
I'm not the one "serving the public". I just call my auto-club... but that's ME.

Also, this wasn't about changing tires... It was about helping. My point was that my mother was stranded on the side of the road and a cop just rolled by her... didn't even ask if she was ok or anything. Just looked at her and left.

Sadly enough, I've stopped by a cop who was in an accident in his own personal car... I offered him a ride, but he turned it down after using my cell phone to call someone and  to wait for another deputy to file a report.

Then, as a kind gesture, I drove to his house and picked up his wife and brought her to the scene so she could see him and make sure he was ok.

No cop would ever do something like that...


first, thanks for helping the guy out, that was nice. That the cop allowed a stranger to go to his house to pick up his wife is quite astonishing. I personally don't know of a cop who would do that but hey......

Having said that, your statement "No cop would ever do something like that.." rings hollow with me because I've done similar things many times over. I've let folks use my phone on many occassions. I've said no to the request depending on the situation but more than not, I've allowed them to block the number and call. I've driven people across the city on special occassions when they were stranded. I've done a LOT of good sumaritan things on a regular basis as a cop that frankly you would find hard to believe. The plain truth is holmes, you really don't have a clue what we do on a regular basis, I can say that because I read your posts, and I know what we do. You're statements rarely add up.

I've already caught you in one lie or embellishment, your credibility is pretty low as it is....
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: tu_holmes on June 17, 2011, 04:55:16 PM
first, thanks for helping the guy out, that was nice. That the cop allowed a stranger to go to his house to pick up his wife is quite astonishing. I personally don't know of a cop who would do that but hey......

Having said that, your statement "No cop would ever do something like that.." rings hollow with me because I've done similar things many times over. I've let folks use my phone on many occassions. I've said no to the request depending on the situation but more than not, I've allowed them to block the number and call. I've driven people across the city on special occassions when they were stranded. I've done a LOT of good sumaritan things on a regular basis as a cop that frankly you would find hard to believe. The plain truth is holmes, you really don't have a clue what we do on a regular basis, I can say that because I read your posts, and I know what we do. You're statements rarely add up.

I've already caught you in one lie or embellishment, your credibility is pretty low as it is....

That was hardly a lie or even an embellishment, unless you consider poor grammar a lie.

Your credibility is higher than mine? Why? Because you claim to be a police officer on a message board?

I use my real name... I'm not the one hiding anything.
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Skip8282 on June 18, 2011, 08:43:47 AM
I'm not the one "serving the public". I just call my auto-club... but that's ME.

Also, this wasn't about changing tires... It was about helping. My point was that my mother was stranded on the side of the road and a cop just rolled by her... didn't even ask if she was ok or anything. Just looked at her and left.

Sadly enough, I've stopped by a cop who was in an accident in his own personal car... I offered him a ride, but he turned it down after using my cell phone to call someone and  to wait for another deputy to file a report.

Then, as a kind gesture, I drove to his house and picked up his wife and brought her to the scene so she could see him and make sure he was ok.

No cop would ever do something like that...




I've had a cop help me out like that, taking me right to my house, but it's certainly not their priority.  And I haven't seen any outpouring of public concern that cops should be doing that type of work.

In my area, they have public safety officers (basically they get the uniform without a badge or gun).  They drive around in the cop cars and the like and they do stuff like your describing.  Maybe that's a happy middle ground?
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Dos Equis on June 18, 2011, 10:33:54 AM
Updated: 06/14/2011 1:32 PM
Created: 06/13/2011 5:06 PM KSTP.com
By: Katie Fraser
St. Paul Police Officers Awarded Top Honors

A St. Paul police officer was awarded 2011 Police Officer of the Year award Monday, June 13.

Officer Dave Longbehn, a 27 year veteran of the force, was chosen for the award by the Minnesota Police and Peace Officers Association.

Longbehn was chosen for his role following a fatal assault of  Maplewood police officer Sergeant Joe Bergeron. Longbehn played a key role in catching the suspect and closing the case.

Longbehn, a K9 handler, was called in on May 1, 2010 to help search for the man who killed Bergeron. He was assigned to help secure a perimeter around St. Paul's East Side.

Upon securing it, he confronted a man that happened to be the suspect.

They engage in physical fight where the suspect was repeatedly hitting Longbehn in the face with a metal toolbox and telling Longbehn he was going to kill him.

During the struggle Longbehn was able to get to his feet and end it by fatally shooting the suspect.

He was given the award for the lives he saved and the injuries he endured.

Another St. Paul officers was given honors on Monday.

Officer Jason Giampolo was given Honorable Mention for helping save the lives of a man and his family in a semi-truck accident. The semi-truck had hit an high voltage electric pole leaving wires all over the street. Giampolo saved the life of one man when he realized he was being electrocuted and he safely removed the wires and sheltered the mans head from convulsions with his own uniform shirt.

The awards were given out at the Association’s Annual Convention at the Arrowwood Resort in Alexandria, Minnesota.

http://kstp.com/article/stories/s2154284.shtml
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: sync pulse on June 18, 2011, 03:19:57 PM
I have to say that I have feelings for individuals who get abused by Law Enforcement officials,...I get angry when advocates of technical surveillance (law enforcement cameras, financial scrutiny, telecom records...) recite,..."If you are doing nothing wrong, you have nothing to fear."


After saying this, however, I have never personally had a bad experience with a cop...ever.

Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: LurkerNoMore on June 20, 2011, 05:44:55 AM
That the cop allowed a stranger to go to his house to pick up his wife is quite astonishing. I personally don't know of a cop who would do that but hey......

Don't worry... there is a bigger more astonishing story around the corner waiting for him to tell us about it.
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: tu_holmes on June 20, 2011, 06:07:47 AM
Right. Because people don't know where cops live.

It's not like there's a car out front or anything.

::)
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Agnostic007 on June 20, 2011, 08:55:56 AM
Right. Because people don't know where cops live.

It's not like there's a car out front or anything.

::)

No, because 1. You are a stranger. 2. What is the need for the wife to come to the scene? 3. Why does the wife actually have to come to the scene to verify he is in an accident and all right? I'm assuming he called her using your phone to let her know a stranger was coming to pick her up, otherwise she wouldn't go with you. 4. Cops get in accidents quite frequently due to the nature of the job.. I've never observed, or heard of anyone bringing a spouse to the scene of a minor collision. We get hurt/injured all the time. Short of injuries requiring hospitalization, wives just don't come out to a scene, they just don't.

So, knowing what I know about police in general, your story about a cop sending you to his house to pick up his wife so she can make sure he is alright is on par with telling us you were asked by a cop to hold his taser while he went to the bathroom. While it's possible, things like that just don't happen.     

None of that makes any sense.... Could it have happened? I suppose, but it sure doesn't make a lot of sense. 
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: tu_holmes on June 20, 2011, 09:57:48 AM
No, because 1. You are a stranger. 2. What is the need for the wife to come to the scene? 3. Why does the wife actually have to come to the scene to verify he is in an accident and all right? I'm assuming he called her using your phone to let her know a stranger was coming to pick her up, otherwise she wouldn't go with you. 4. Cops get in accidents quite frequently due to the nature of the job.. I've never observed, or heard of anyone bringing a spouse to the scene of a minor collision. We get hurt/injured all the time. Short of injuries requiring hospitalization, wives just don't come out to a scene, they just don't.

So, knowing what I know about police in general, your story about a cop sending you to his house to pick up his wife so she can make sure he is alright is on par with telling us you were asked by a cop to hold his taser while he went to the bathroom. While it's possible, things like that just don't happen.     

None of that makes any sense.... Could it have happened? I suppose, but it sure doesn't make a lot of sense. 

Don't know what to tell you... That's what happened.

Maybe his wife was just that kind of worry wort... I don't know. All I know is that's what happened.
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Dos Equis on June 20, 2011, 10:48:59 AM
City honors police officers
Officer gets highest honor for protecting victim during shooting
8:18 PM, Jun. 15, 2011 

Fort Collins Police officer Kobey Northen was awarded the agency's highest honor Wednesday for protecting a victim during a shooting last year.

The medal of valor was presented to Northen during the 19th annual Fort Collins Police Services Awards, which included citizen as well as law enforcement recipients.

In recognizing Northen, Capt. Jim Szakmeister explained how he responded to a domestic violence call involving a man reportedly suicidal and armed "near the end of his midnight shift" at 7 a.m. June 27.

At the scene, the victim warned Northen that the suspect was approaching from behind and Northen commanded the suspect to stop, but the man continued advancing, even after pepper spray was deployed, Szakmeister said.

"Then, Officer Northen and the victim saw the suspect retrieve a concealed firearm. Officer Northen told the victim to get behind him as he was forced to shoot the suspect," he said.

That day, Northen shot Aaron McKean six times. District Attorney Larry Abrahamson cleared Northen of any criminal wrongdoing in July following a three-week investigation of the shooting. McKean, who has since recovered, recently took a plea agreement in the case for felony menacing and awaits sentencing in August.

Wednesday's recipients also included Aspyn Allen, a young girl who received a distinguished service commendation for helping her grandmother who became dizzy and crashed her car in October.

"The car veered off of the left side of the road, hitting a tree. It continued on at a high rate of speed through a parking lot and finally collided head-on with a concrete loading dock," Interim Police Chief Jerry Schiager said. "The air bags deployed, but Mrs. (Myrna) Schwindt was unconscious, bleeding and unable to move. Aspyn immediately jumped out of the vehicle and ran to the street to flag down someone to help."

Wednesday's event was attended by Larimer County Sheriff Justin Smith and Loveland Police Chief Luke Hecker, as well as Abrahamson and others in the law-enforcement community.

Others recognized at the event included:

» A distinguished service medal was awarded to Officer Carrie Wills, who with a rifle nonfatally wounded a suicidal suspect 70 yards away after he fired a gun repeatedly in the presence of officers.

» Medals of merit were presented to Officers Dan Calahan and Josh Goldschmidt, who stopped a reported suicide after the victim was found hanging from the banister of a home's stairway.

» A police chief's commendation was presented to members of the Northern Colorado Drug Task Force for casework leading to recovery of 19 pounds of methamphetamine in one case. Through the investigation, the task force discovered a new way drugs were being concealed for transfer from Mexico: hidden inside functioning car batteries manufactured in Mexico.

http://www.coloradoan.com/article/20110616/NEWS01/106160342/City-honors-police-officers
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Agnostic007 on June 20, 2011, 01:25:47 PM
Don't know what to tell you... That's what happened.

Maybe his wife was just that kind of worry wort... I don't know. All I know is that's what happened.

Fair enough..
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Dos Equis on July 05, 2011, 02:09:11 PM
Pregnant officer saves struggling swimmer
June 29, 2011
Francine Sawyer

A six-months-pregnant police officer did not think twice before plunging into a swimming pool fully dressed to save a 14-year-old boy from drowning.

New Bern officer Malydia Owen is assisting one of New Bern’s summer camps called Project Positive Focus. Recently some of the campers were at Courts Plus for a swimming outing.

“Three of the members of camps were in the inside pool playing. They were in an area where their heads were above water. One of the boys slipped into a deeper area. His head went down twice and the third time he went down he had a frightened look on his face,” Owen said.

Without giving a thought to be dressed in uniform and wearing heavy uniform shoes, Owen jumped into the water to get the boy from the bottom of the pool. “I grabbed him and pulled him up. As I was pulling him up the lifeguard jumped in and helped,” Owen said.

“It’s just something I would hope that everyone would do in the same situation,” she said. “At least I would like to think anyone would do the same thing. They have to be comfortable with it.”

Owen said she was glad the other campers were in another area.

“He was embarrassed to start with, I wouldn’t want other children to taunt him,” she said.

Owen is modest about her latest “good deed,” and it isn’t her first.

In August 2005, Owen checked on a diabetic who lived alone as part of police department’s Are You OK program.

Annie Bullock did not respond to the police department’s daily phone call to check on her well-being. Owen responded to the home where Bullock lives alone. Owen found the front screen door locked from the inside and got no response. She heard muffled sounds from the inside. A neighbor produced a key. Medics were called, Bullock was given food and thanked Owen for coming to her rescue.

http://www.enctoday.com/news/officer-98610-nbsj-pregnant-bern.html
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: tu_holmes on July 05, 2011, 02:18:29 PM
14 days between good deeds from the cops. Woohoo!!

Go team blue.
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Dos Equis on July 05, 2011, 02:45:36 PM
lol
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Dos Equis on September 01, 2011, 10:50:16 AM
He should be fired, but you gotta give the man props for originality.  He's getting some mad respect in the locker room.  lol  (picture at the end)

No charges for N.M. cop caught having sex on car
 
(CBS News)  SANTA FE, N.M.- He's in uniform, in public, and definitely caught in flagrante. But investigators said the state police officer caught on camera having sex on the hood of a car did not commit a crime, CBS News affiliate KRQE-TV in Albuquerque reports.

The pictures show a state cop wrapped up in an inappropriate position, having sex on the top of a car in public.

The photos were taken by a security camera at the out-of-the-way Canyon Ranch, which is owned by Santa Fe County.

State police are not releasing the officer's name, but KRQE-TV has learned it's Bert Lopez. The eight-year vet was named state police officer of the year in the Santa Fe district in 2010. Even though state police won't confirm it's him, state police spokesman Sgt. Tim Johnson told KRQE-TV that Lopez is currently "on administrative leave."

Johnson wouldn't say if the officer was officially on duty but did say, "An employee who did something like this in uniform would be considered on duty."

The pictures surfaced about two weeks ago, and an internal investigation was launched immediately.

State police have completed that investigation, and Johnson said, "At this point we do not believe any criminal activity occurred."

State police are not identifying the woman in the pictures and won't comment on her relationship to the officer. They do say the woman was not involved in any of the officer's cases.

Santa Fe County Sheriff Robert Garcia said he will not cite the officer for indecent exposure or public lewdness because there was no victim; no one was around to see it.

But millions of people have seen it now. And comedians are having a field day.

After talking about the racy photos, Craig Ferguson, host of CBS' "The Late Late Show," told his audience, "Just goes to show you that I will do anything to get out of a ticket."

It may seem funny to a lot of people but not to state police.

"It's unfortunate; the department is embarrassed. During that bad decision, there were probably 400 other officers out doing their jobs and making the correct decision," Johnson said.

The officer could be fired over the photos for tarnishing the badge and embarrassing the department.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/09/01/national/main20100412.shtml


(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-CuP5YjI75RY/Tl26p5hL4HI/AAAAAAAAIDY/ZygJG8w8xBw/s1600/police%2Bhaving%2Bsex.jpg)
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Agnostic007 on September 01, 2011, 01:05:59 PM
Depending on the circumstances, I could buy that no criminal charges are filed. However in light of the discredit it brought upon his department, I would not be surprised to see him fired or at least a stiff suspension.... pun intended  ;D 
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Dos Equis on September 01, 2011, 01:34:57 PM
Depending on the circumstances, I could buy that no criminal charges are filed. However in light of the discredit it brought upon his department, I would not be surprised to see him fired or at least a stiff suspension.... pun intended  ;D 

lol.  This guy will become a legend.   :)
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Dos Equis on September 11, 2011, 12:22:40 PM
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Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Skip8282 on September 11, 2011, 04:52:13 PM
He should be fired, but you gotta give the man props for originality.  He's getting some mad respect in the locker room.  lol  (picture at the end)

No charges for N.M. cop caught having sex on car
 
(CBS News)  SANTA FE, N.M.- He's in uniform, in public, and definitely caught in flagrante. But investigators said the state police officer caught on camera having sex on the hood of a car did not commit a crime, CBS News affiliate KRQE-TV in Albuquerque reports.

The pictures show a state cop wrapped up in an inappropriate position, having sex on the top of a car in public.

The photos were taken by a security camera at the out-of-the-way Canyon Ranch, which is owned by Santa Fe County.

State police are not releasing the officer's name, but KRQE-TV has learned it's Bert Lopez. The eight-year vet was named state police officer of the year in the Santa Fe district in 2010. Even though state police won't confirm it's him, state police spokesman Sgt. Tim Johnson told KRQE-TV that Lopez is currently "on administrative leave."

Johnson wouldn't say if the officer was officially on duty but did say, "An employee who did something like this in uniform would be considered on duty."

The pictures surfaced about two weeks ago, and an internal investigation was launched immediately.

State police have completed that investigation, and Johnson said, "At this point we do not believe any criminal activity occurred."

State police are not identifying the woman in the pictures and won't comment on her relationship to the officer. They do say the woman was not involved in any of the officer's cases.

Santa Fe County Sheriff Robert Garcia said he will not cite the officer for indecent exposure or public lewdness because there was no victim; no one was around to see it.

But millions of people have seen it now. And comedians are having a field day.

After talking about the racy photos, Craig Ferguson, host of CBS' "The Late Late Show," told his audience, "Just goes to show you that I will do anything to get out of a ticket."

It may seem funny to a lot of people but not to state police.

"It's unfortunate; the department is embarrassed. During that bad decision, there were probably 400 other officers out doing their jobs and making the correct decision," Johnson said.

The officer could be fired over the photos for tarnishing the badge and embarrassing the department.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/09/01/national/main20100412.shtml


(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-CuP5YjI75RY/Tl26p5hL4HI/AAAAAAAAIDY/ZygJG8w8xBw/s1600/police%2Bhaving%2Bsex.jpg)




I don't see how they're not charging him with theft.  He's on the fucking clock.
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Agnostic007 on September 11, 2011, 10:16:28 PM



I don't see how they're not charging him with theft.  He's on the fucking clock.

But you don't know that..
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: tu_holmes on September 11, 2011, 10:50:22 PM
But you don't know that..

Well, let me ask you this question. Do you wear your uniform when you are not on the clock?

Let's say he just got off of work, or was just going to work... Does that make it better?

Don't police officers have arrest powers whether they are "on the clock" or not? Thereby making them "on the clock"?
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Agnostic007 on September 12, 2011, 06:49:19 AM
Well, let me ask you this question. Do you wear your uniform when you are not on the clock?

Let's say he just got off of work, or was just going to work... Does that make it better?

Don't police officers have arrest powers whether they are "on the clock" or not? Thereby making them "on the clock"?

1. Driving too and from work I do

2. Yes, in my opinion, if he was not on duty, not taking calls, not being paid then yes, it makes it better. Was it the right thing to do? No or course not, but it would be worse if he was on duty, not doing his job while this happened.

3. Yes they do but when they aren't on the clock they are not supposed to involve themselves in misedemeanor crimes, only felony crimes. They don't write tickets, answer the radio, pull cars over  and they are not being paid. etc. So there is a clear distinction between on and off duty.

What if... He was off duty,  the chick is his wife. They were out in a secluded part of the world, and just having a good time not thinking anyone could see? While he certainly will face reprecussions for embarrassing his department, is it a firing offense in that case?
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Agnostic007 on September 12, 2011, 06:52:31 AM
BTW, since this isnt the cop bashing thread "Official Police State" and a Law Enforcement Appreciation thread I'd like to thank all those officers who on a regular basis, risk their lives for little or no thanks so that the rest of us can live a relatively peaceful existence. And since this is the 10th Anniversary of the 9-11 attacks, a shout out to the first respnders, EMS, Fire, Police who gave their lives helping others. I again watched a documentary on the events of that day last night and watching those firemen walking towards the 2nd tower before it fell, and knowing it would, was heart wrenching..
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: tu_holmes on September 12, 2011, 08:18:33 AM
1. Driving too and from work I do

2. Yes, in my opinion, if he was not on duty, not taking calls, not being paid then yes, it makes it better. Was it the right thing to do? No or course not, but it would be worse if he was on duty, not doing his job while this happened.

3. Yes they do but when they aren't on the clock they are not supposed to involve themselves in misedemeanor crimes, only felony crimes. They don't write tickets, answer the radio, pull cars over  and they are not being paid. etc. So there is a clear distinction between on and off duty.

What if... He was off duty,  the chick is his wife. They were out in a secluded part of the world, and just having a good time not thinking anyone could see? While he certainly will face reprecussions for embarrassing his department, is it a firing offense in that case?

Gonna skip some stuff...

3. I've had had a cop chase me down while in uniform in his personal vehicle and point at me glaringly out the window to tell me to slow down.

The funny part was that my car was probably twice the car his was and he was being more reckless by endangering the public in his hooptee than I was in my car.

If he was off duty, and in secluded part of the word (which apparently it wasn't because there's a camera) then no, I'll let him slide... But again, there's a camera, and a building which means he was hiding from people, so it couldn't have been that secluded.

People can fuck in the middle of the desert because there's no one there after all.
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Skip8282 on September 12, 2011, 05:02:56 PM
But you don't know that..


True, I'm guessing because he's got his batman belt on and I've never seen a cop coming and going to work wearing that.  If he's on his lunch break or whatever, I suppose he can weasel out of criminal charges, though I think anybody else would be facing charges for public indecency as it was caught on camera.
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Agnostic007 on September 13, 2011, 08:21:26 AM

True, I'm guessing because he's got his batman belt on and I've never seen a cop coming and going to work wearing that.  If he's on his lunch break or whatever, I suppose he can weasel out of criminal charges, though I think anybody else would be facing charges for public indecency as it was caught on camera.

NO ONE would be charged with public indencency in this case. Part of the elements of the offense are "and was reckless .." or "a reasonable person should have known"... since it is a misdemeanor offense and was only observed with a survellience camera, it would never be pursued for joe citizen.
 
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Agnostic007 on September 13, 2011, 10:00:03 AM


Nice commentary by Paul Harvey
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Skip8282 on September 13, 2011, 02:41:04 PM
NO ONE would be charged with public indencency in this case. Part of the elements of the offense are "and was reckless .." or "a reasonable person should have known"... since it is a misdemeanor offense and was only observed with a survellience camera, it would never be pursued for joe citizen.
 



::)

Any "reasonable" person in this day and age would suspect that a building might just have security cameras watching the property.

Here's a link to 2 teens arrested for indecent exposure after cameras caught them in a PARK - someplace you wouldn't actually expect cameras!!

http://www.krqe.com/dpp/news/crime/park-cameras-catch-criminals

Didn't even have to get off the first page of google - ::)

Like I told you before, you are a prime example of the blue wall protecting this douche.  And you're so deep in it, you can't even see it.

Public officials need to police themselves.  We MUST be held to a higher standard.
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Agnostic007 on September 13, 2011, 02:49:47 PM
I guess you missed the part where I said if he did it on duty he should be fired.

I guess you missed the part where I said if off duty he should be disciplined because it brought discredit to his department.

While those teens were arrested, I am curious as to whether the teens ever saw a court room. Often times the D. A. will NOT pursue a charge because it is not winnable in court.

I am an example of a person who looks at both sides of an issue before concluding and I have declared often and loudly that bad officers, corrupt officers, criminal officers have no place on the force and SHOULD be held to a higher standard.

But in every case, as well with civilians, I'd like to hear all the facts before I scream for their heads... Can't apologize for that Skip.
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Skip8282 on September 13, 2011, 02:50:48 PM
lol, here's cops actually putting cameras in a public bathroom to try and catch people having sex.  But, yeah, there's no different standard for cops.  ::)

http://www.glapn.org/sodomylaws/usa/ohio/ohnews07.htm


By Eric Resnick

Toronto, Ohio—A man challenging police use of video cameras inside a public restroom is attempting to suppress the resulting tape.

James Henry is the only one of 13 men arrested in the case to mount a challenge to the tactic, saying it violates the right to privacy.

Police in Saline Township hid video cameras earlier this year inside a highway rest stop on Ohio 7 at Ohio 213, about a mile south of Wellsville, near the Ohio River.

cont'd...
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Agnostic007 on September 13, 2011, 02:55:24 PM
lol, here's cops actually putting cameras in a public bathroom to try and catch people having sex.  But, yeah, there's no different standard for cops.  ::)

http://www.glapn.org/sodomylaws/usa/ohio/ohnews07.htm


By Eric Resnick

Toronto, Ohio—A man challenging police use of video cameras inside a public restroom is attempting to suppress the resulting tape.

James Henry is the only one of 13 men arrested in the case to mount a challenge to the tactic, saying it violates the right to privacy.

Police in Saline Township hid video cameras earlier this year inside a highway rest stop on Ohio 7 at Ohio 213, about a mile south of Wellsville, near the Ohio River.

cont'd...
  different scenario Skip
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Skip8282 on September 13, 2011, 02:56:56 PM
I guess you missed the part where I said if he did it on duty he should be fired.

I guess you missed the part where I said if off duty he should be disciplined because it brought discredit to his department.

While those teens were arrested, I am curious as to whether the teens ever saw a court room. Often times the D. A. will NOT pursue a charge because it is not winnable in court.

I am an example of a person who looks at both sides of an issue before concluding and I have declared often and loudly that bad officers, corrupt officers, criminal officers have no place on the force and SHOULD be held to a higher standard.

But in every case, as well with civilians, I'd like to hear all the facts before I scream for their heads... Can't apologize for that Skip.



That's EXACTLY part of the blue wall.  The cops won't release everything.  Hopefully they can get a FOIA and get the info.  Of course, that'll probably be delayed for years.

Oh, great point BTW, a level headed DA doesn't decide to press charges.  ::)
Yeah that totally makes up for being cuffed, booked, etc. 
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Skip8282 on September 13, 2011, 02:59:03 PM
  different scenario Skip


Of course, you defend the cops, lol.

It's the same basic issue that goes to your bullshit claim about people not being charged if they were a reasonable person who should've known.
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Agnostic007 on September 13, 2011, 03:13:14 PM

Of course, you defend the cops, lol.

It's the same basic issue that goes to your bullshit claim about people not being charged if they were a reasonable person who should've known.

SKip, in scenario 1 I don't have a lot of information. It LOOKS to be a secluded area but I don't know that for a fact. It could be right smack dab down town and he should have known. But IF it was an out of way secluded area it would be unlikely someone would be walking by and see it. That there was a camera in the area wouldn't suffice for charges, at least it wouldn't fly here.

Next, you have chain of custody issues. How many people had access to the tape/harddrive/ etc ?

IN the bathroom scenario, the video tape is likely indexed, logged and has a chain of custody when submitted into evidence. Next you have the issue that it is LIKELY that someone would walk into the public restroom. It is also likely the cops were acting on citizen complaints. We have issues at parks here. Dad is bringing little johnny to the park restroom and walks in on John and Bill trading handjobs. They call the cops, cops react with the cameras. We don't do the camera thing here, I think it is a bad idea but that's the difference between the two scenarios.   

 

Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Agnostic007 on September 13, 2011, 03:23:36 PM
should this be moved to the cop bashing .. I mean Police State thread?
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Skip8282 on September 13, 2011, 03:32:34 PM
SKip, in scenario 1 I don't have a lot of information. It LOOKS to be a secluded area but I don't know that for a fact. It could be right smack dab down town and he should have known. But IF it was an out of way secluded area it would be unlikely someone would be walking by and see it. That there was a camera in the area wouldn't suffice for charges, at least it wouldn't fly here.

Next, you have chain of custody issues. How many people had access to the tape/harddrive/ etc ?

IN the bathroom scenario, the video tape is likely indexed, logged and has a chain of custody when submitted into evidence. Next you have the issue that it is LIKELY that someone would walk into the public restroom. It is also likely the cops were acting on citizen complaints. We have issues at parks here. Dad is bringing little johnny to the park restroom and walks in on John and Bill trading handjobs. They call the cops, cops react with the cameras. We don't do the camera thing here, I think it is a bad idea but that's the difference between the two scenarios.   

 





Dude, seriously, you've gone from claiming "NO ONE" would be charged with this shit, to well they've been charged but the DA might not prosecute, to it "wouldn't fly here".

If a security camera catches this shit, calls the cops, and they can identify the person, more likely than not, they're gonna charge them.  Hell a quick search reveals tons of instances.  If this cop can beat the rap in court, fine.  But at least charge him and give the appearance of not trying to cover shit up.

And again, this isn't solely a cop issue.  We see this kind of preferential treatment with all public officials and needs to be called out and stopped.

BTW, not trying to bash you at all - you're just a very dishonest person cause you're so hell bent on protecting cops, and I've got no problem calling you out on it.

In the other thread where you're arguing with Tu and 33, I agree with you that the majority of people would probably rate most cops as satisfactory or better.
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Skip8282 on September 13, 2011, 03:41:44 PM
I'll get the thread back on track.  :D


Cop saves choking tot: ‘I’m just happy the baby is alive’

Christopher Elliott didn’t know what to make of the man who banged on the passenger window of his squad car in Logan Square late Wednesday night.

But then the frantic man yelled in broken English: “My baby! My baby is hurt!”

The Chicago Police officer was parked at a Citgo station, filling out paperwork after a hit-and-run. He dropped his work and rushed to help the panicked father.

Thirteen-month-old Fernando, who was in his mother’s arms, “looked white and pale,” said Elliott, 35, who has been a Chicago Police officer for five years.

“I picked him up and started patting him on the back, and then a few seconds later, he started coughing up some food and started crying,” Elliott said.

http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/6885612-418/cop-saves-choking-tot-im-just-happy-the-baby-is-alive.html
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Agnostic007 on September 13, 2011, 04:16:38 PM


Dude, seriously, you've gone from claiming "NO ONE" would be charged with this shit, to well they've been charged but the DA might not prosecute, to it "wouldn't fly here".

If a security camera catches this shit, calls the cops, and they can identify the person, more likely than not, they're gonna charge them.  Hell a quick search reveals tons of instances.  If this cop can beat the rap in court, fine.  But at least charge him and give the appearance of not trying to cover shit up.

And again, this isn't solely a cop issue.  We see this kind of preferential treatment with all public officials and needs to be called out and stopped.

BTW, not trying to bash you at all - you're just a very dishonest person cause you're so hell bent on protecting cops, and I've got no problem calling you out on it.

In the other thread where you're arguing with Tu and 33, I agree with you that the majority of people would probably rate most cops as satisfactory or better.

Skip, we probably agree more than not.. I hold my officers to a higher standard, as it should be.
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: tu_holmes on September 13, 2011, 04:20:34 PM
Skip, we probably agree more than not.. I hold my officers to a higher standard, as it should be.

Unfortunately you do not seem to be the majority.
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Agnostic007 on September 13, 2011, 06:07:34 PM
Unfortunately you do not seem to be the majority.

Only in your mind Tu.. the fact is it is the norm
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: tu_holmes on September 13, 2011, 06:20:50 PM
Only in your mind Tu.. the fact is it is the norm
I don't think it's only me who thinks that.

Hell, even your own stat showed what? A 30% dislike?

That's a pretty big portion of the populace.
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Dos Equis on December 13, 2011, 10:31:53 AM
Number of police officers killed in line of duty spikes in 2011
By Kristina Sgueglia and Chris Dignam
updated 1:43 AM EST, Tue December 13, 2011

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New York (CNN) -- The number of police officers who have died in the line of duty in 2011 has increased 14 percent nationwide from last year, according to the National Law Enforcement Officers Memorial Fund.

"We're hearing about more brazen, violent activity today, more cold-blooded murders," said Craig Floyd, chairman and CEO of the fund.

The shooting death of a New York police officer early Monday morning marks the 166th death nationwide in the past 11 months, up from last year's 146, Floyd said.

Veteran police officer Peter Figoski, 47, died after he was shot in the face when he interrupted a robbery in Cypress Hills, Brooklyn, according to Police Commissioner Ray Kelly's official report.

This most recent killing comes just days after the murder of Virginia Tech University police officer Deriek W. Crouse. That death shook a campus still reeling from a 2007 shooting rampage that killed 32 people.

Since last week's shooting at Virginia Tech, three other police officers have been shot and killed, including Figoski, Floyd said.

"For the first time in 14 years, firearms-related deaths will outnumber traffic and 'other'-related deaths," Floyd said.

A National Law Enforcement Officers Memorial Fund preliminary report said that in 2011, 62 law enforcement deaths are attributed to firearms, 60 deaths are attributed to traffic-related instances and 44 are attributed to other causes. This likely will not be the final tally. The full statistical report will be released December 28.

"These deaths come at a time when we're drastically cutting back on budgets for police departments across the country," Floyd said.

According to the International Association of Chiefs of Police, cited by the Department of Justice in a Community Oriented Policing Services report in October, 85 percent of agencies reported they were forced to reduce budgets over the last year.

The Fraternal Order of Police estimated between 12,000 and 15,000 sworn officer positions were lost because of budget reductions, as cited by the Department of Justice.

"Police departments nationwide are being asked to do more with less," said Steve Groeninger, senior communications director of the National Law Enforcement Officers Memorial Fund.

A Law Enforcement Management and Administrative Statistics report indicated there were an average 250 officers per 100,000 people nationwide in 2008. In 2011, the DOJ Community Oriented Policing Services division reports a drop in the police to population ratio, to an average of 181 to 100,000.

Groeninger said the increased death toll can be attributed to budget cuts and what he referred to as a criminal's affinity for violence by gun. There is a tendency of previously incarcerated individuals to go desperately rogue when approached by the officials of law, and "shoot their way out of a situation," he said.

"We're seeing more of that in recent years," he said.

In January 2011, CNN reported four law enforcement shooting deaths in Florida stemming from two instances when officers tried to take in wanted criminals.
Floyd said he believes the numbers are a testament to the times.

"I think that we have a strong anti-government sentiment in our country, similar to the 1970s, the deadliest decade in law enforcement."

The decade that witnessed the end of the Vietnam War, multiple energy crises, a weakening economy and the impeachment of a president also saw the loss of 2,286 law enforcement officers. That is an average of almost 229 officer fatalities per year.

"In the '70s we saw a lot of protests and disrespect for law enforcement officials, and we're seeing the same thing today," he said.

The deadliest day in law enforcement history remains September 11, 2001, when 72 officers died while responding to the terrorist attacks on the United States.

http://www.cnn.com/2011/12/12/us/law-enforcement-deaths-2011/index.html?hpt=hp_c1
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Dos Equis on December 15, 2011, 01:56:23 PM
Officer comforting woman pinned by bus: I'll stay
By Associated Press
POSTED: 07:15 a.m. HST, Dec 15, 2011
LAST UPDATED: 09:41 a.m. HST, Dec 15, 2011


AP
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This photo released by the West Valley City Police shows police officer Kevin Peck wedged between an icy street and the undercarriage of a commuter bus clutching hands with badly injured Aryann Smith on Dec. 12, 2011.
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WEST VALLEY CITY, Utah >>  A Utah police officer who held the hand of a frightened 24-year-old badly injured woman pinned under a bus said he promised not to leave her until she got out alive.

A photo captures West Valley City officer Kevin Peck wedged between an icy street and the undercarriage of a commuter bus Monday, his blue latex-gloved hands clutching the hands of a Aryann Smith, whose legs were crushed.

"She was very scared. She asked me not to leave. So I said I would just stay under there with her until we got her out," Peck told the Deseret News.

The nine-year department veteran was around the corner when a Utah Transit Authority bus struck and ran over Smith around 10:30 a.m. in a crosswalk.

Peck said he crawled under the bus to take a pulse on the woman, whose legs were gashed open and whose face was hardly visible behind blood and her hair. Smith told him she couldn't feel anything below her waist.

The two didn't let go until fire crews lifted the vehicle off of her.

"She was afraid she was going to die. And myself being under there, I'm just praying and hoping for some reason the bus doesn't move," Peck said. "We're right next to the tire underneath the bus, just trying to reassure her and keep her calm."

The woman told Peck she had been on her way to see a child who her mother was caring for down the road when she was struck. Peck said it took several minutes for emergency personnel to slide a backboard below Smith and pull her from under the vehicle.

She was taken to the hospital, and is not expected to lose her legs.

Police say it appears the bus driver didn't see Smith while she was in the crosswalk and failed to yield. Authorities say the driver was cited and is on paid administrative leave pending an internal investigation.

Peck said he hopes to visit Smith in the hospital, and told the newspaper that the experience reminded him of why he became an officer in the first place — to help people.

"I think sometimes as a police officer I forget that, until you're in a situation that doesn't require arresting anybody or investigating some sort of crime," he said.

http://www.staradvertiser.com/news/breaking/Officer_comforting_woman_pinned_by_bus_Ill_stay__.html
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: tu_holmes on December 15, 2011, 08:24:55 PM
How exciting... we went 5 months and you got 2 more entire "good cop" stories... How will we possibly be able to keep up with all of the good the cops are doing out there?
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 15, 2011, 08:33:11 PM
We sadly had a cop killed in NYC a few days ago as a result of a incompetent judge who let the ghetto ape out on ROR.   Disgraceful.   And I don't give a shit if I am called a racist, the perp is a fucking ghetto ape and animal savage who should have been aborted by his crack hoe mamma at birth. 
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Agnostic007 on December 16, 2011, 07:36:40 AM
How exciting... we went 5 months and you got 2 more entire "good cop" stories... How will we possibly be able to keep up with all of the good the cops are doing out there?

You can't possibly that stupid can you? You think every good cop story is posted here? What's the point? It's like posting stories every time the the sun sets.. "Sun set today!"... "Sun set again today!!" 

Don't be an idiot Tu..
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: tu_holmes on December 16, 2011, 06:31:25 PM
You can't possibly that stupid can you? You think every good cop story is posted here? What's the point? It's like posting stories every time the the sun sets.. "Sun set today!"... "Sun set again today!!" 

Don't be an idiot Tu..

Beach Bum posts EVERY single thing that some "democrat" does wrong... so I'm sure he'd be just as inclined to post the great things that cops do EVERY day.

Beach is on YOUR side... I'm sure he wouldn't just let you guys go down like that... This guy has TONS of free time to post in his Democratic misdeeds thread.

He can spare a couple of minutes for you guys every day.

Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Agnostic007 on December 16, 2011, 11:00:59 PM
Beach Bum posts EVERY single thing that some "democrat" does wrong... so I'm sure he'd be just as inclined to post the great things that cops do EVERY day.

Beach is on YOUR side... I'm sure he wouldn't just let you guys go down like that... This guy has TONS of free time to post in his Democratic misdeeds thread.

He can spare a couple of minutes for you guys every day.



Not a thing you said matters as far as the context of the argument goes. But you already know that.
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: tu_holmes on December 17, 2011, 06:46:30 PM
Not a thing you said matters as far as the context of the argument goes. But you already know that.

I think it does, but we agree on almost nothing, so I wouldn't expect you to understand the nuance.
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Agnostic007 on December 19, 2011, 08:42:29 AM
I think it does, but we agree on almost nothing, so I wouldn't expect you to understand the nuance.

true, I'm grounded in reality so it is difficult for me to understand you..
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: tu_holmes on December 19, 2011, 11:13:24 AM
true, I'm grounded in reality so it is difficult for me to understand you..

Your reality says there's no blue line or anything... Your idea of reality is so skewed it's not funny.
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Agnostic007 on December 20, 2011, 07:20:26 AM
Your reality says there's no blue line or anything... Your idea of reality is so skewed it's not funny.

You are a master of misqouting... "no blue line or anything".. So I will repeat myself with the answer my own questions routine


Do I think all cops are wonderful heros? No, of course not. We hire from the public and even though we make every attempt to screen out problems, some do get through.

Do I think the blue wall is non existant?  No. It exists today in many areas but it is no where near what it used to be. There have been great strides in reducing it and making policing more transparent. If you doubt it, you just have to look at how many I.A. cases are originated in house verses citizens. Cops are reporting cops to cops more than citizens report cops to cops. Also in many departments almost everything is recorded. 
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Dos Equis on January 07, 2012, 03:23:48 PM
Los Angeles reserve deputy is reluctant -- and private -- hero
By Ashley Hayes, CNN
updated 8:14 AM EST, Sat January 7, 2012
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Reserve Deputy Shervin Lalezary wins praise after arresting an arson suspect in a string of fires in the Los Angeles area.

What started out as a wee-hours traffic stop wound up catapulting a 30-year-old California real estate attorney and reserve sheriff's deputy into an unfamiliar -- and uncomfortable -- role: that of hero.
It was Shervin Lalezary who put the cuffs on Harry Burkhart, a 24-year-old German national whom Los Angeles County Sheriff Lee Baca called "perhaps ... the most dangerous arsonist in the county of Los Angeles that I can recall."

Burkhart is suspected of setting a rash of car and building fires across the city. Following his arrest, no more suspicious fires were documented in Los Angeles, authorities said.

Lalezary was working his $1-per-year job as a reserve deputy with the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department early January 2. Normally a part-time deputy, the Tehran, Iran, native had been working full time for four days as a spate of arson fires -- more than 50 in all -- had Angelenos on alert.

"You just got the sense that everyone in the city was on edge, rightfully so, because of what was happening," Lalezary told reporters.

He recalled "seeing residents flee from their homes and basically run for their lives."

Armed with a description of a possible suspect and vehicle gleaned from a surveillance video released by police, Lalezary pulled over a van and shone a spotlight inside.

The man he saw fit the description -- a white male adult with a short ponytail and a receding hairline.

"That was very distinct information about a person," Lalezary said. The sighting "was a big key."

At the same time, two Los Angeles police officers, seeing Lalezary put on his flashing lights to initiate the traffic stop, pulled in behind him.

Questions remain about how much Lalezary knew about the man in the van when he pulled him over. The U.S. State Department said its agents recognized Burkhart on the surveillance video from a separate investigation and shared their knowledge with Los Angeles authorities.

Lalezary and the sheriff's department have stayed mum on that aspect. Asked why he pulled the van over, Lalezary flashed a boyish grin and said only, "Information that we had on him ... on the vehicle he was driving. There was a good deal of information being circulated."

But it was Lalezary who was thrust into the spotlight. Questioned by reporters hungry for more about him, he deftly deflected questions about himself and his personal life, choosing to praise the deputies at the sheriff's West Hollywood station.

"As a reserve deputy, I've seen what they do, and I've sat next to them in the car shift after shift after shift, and I have tremendous respect for what they do," he said. "They take the reserve program extremely seriously, and they treat us as one of them when we're in the car."

He declined to talk about any statements Burkhart may have made at the time, as well as his own emotional state.

Lalezary responded politely to an e-mail request for an interview but referred questions to the sheriff's department. He signed the e-mail, "Warmly, Shervin."

"He is very humble. He's a good kid," said sheriff's Capt. Phil Hansen, who heads the department's Reserve Forces Bureau.

He said Lalezary's reticence to accept accolades and his insistence on sharing credit with other officers may be part of the culture -- especially among the reserves.

"Part of being a reserve is striking that balance, because you're not full time," Hansen said.

Lalezary attended both UCLA and the University of Southern California, Baca said. He received his law degree at USC, according to the State Bar of California, which lists his law office as being on Wilshire Boulevard in Beverly Hills. He was admitted to the bar in 2008.

"I've been interested in both law and law enforcement for several years, and I think each influences the other," he told reporters.

After moving from Iran with his family, Lalezary grew up in Beverly Hills, said Steve Whitmore, spokesman for the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department. Lalezary credits his family and upbringing with his desire to give back to the community, Whitmore said.

"He really does just want to provide community service to West Hollywood," Whitmore said.

While reserve deputies are required to work a minimum of 20 hours a week, Whitmore said Lalezary "loves it so much, he's out once or twice a week in a patrol car."

Lalezary's younger brother Shawn is also a reserve deputy and told reporters he now has "big shoes to fill."

"I'll continue to strive to be as good of a brother and deputy as he is," Shawn Lalezary said.

The incident has focused attention on reserve deputies, a program used nationwide to provide support for sheriff's departments.

The Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department has 844 reserve deputies in a variety of settings, including mounted patrols on horseback, search and rescue teams, dive teams and helicopter pilots, Hansen said.

The reserve deputies undergo the same training as full-time deputies, except the classes are offered on nights and weekends rather than during the day, he said.

And reserve deputies, with only a token salary, are subject to many of the same hazards as regular officers.

A Facebook page, "In Memory of our Auxiliary Police Officers," provides a lengthy list of reserve and auxiliary officers who died in the line of duty nationwide.
When patrolling, Hansen notes, "You never know what you're rolling up on."

Reserve deputies provided 175,000 hours to the sheriff's department last year, Baca said.

"That's a tremendous resource for our department," the sheriff said. "They're a huge part of what we do. These are people that really step forward and literally at times put their life on the line for a dollar a year."

Requirements for being a Los Angeles County reserve deputy include being a U.S. citizen, passing a thorough background check, holding a high school diploma and being employed or a full-time student.

They are much the same requirements as for regular police officers or sheriff's deputies, Hansen said.

Lalezary became a Level 1 reserve deputy -- meaning he could patrol alone -- in December after completing the requisite 1,064 hours of training, Whitmore said. Burkhart's arrest came during Lalezary's fourth solo patrol shift.

"I think the beautiful thing about our program is it mirrors the full-time program exactly," Lalezary told reporters. While the training is held at different times, "everything we do is the same."

"When reserve deputies are out on patrol, the public doesn't know whether it's a reserve deputy or a full-time deputy," he said. "It makes no difference and rightfully so. The training doesn't make any difference either."

In many instances, the reservists are unsung heroes because of their assistance in cases that aren't as high profile, Hansen said. The search and rescue teams, for instance, "do some fabulous work, and they rescue people on a regular basis," he said. "The public just knows it's the sheriff's department. ... They're involved in some very dangerous and technically demanding rescue work in the mountains."

About a month ago, a reserve team helped local authorities recover the bodies of people who had died in a mining accident, he said.

Lalezary is "very humble," Hansen said. "He knows ... that there's another 843 folks that are doing very similar work and doing great things. ... In terms of the danger or the dedication and work ethic and everything else, there's a lot of other people doing the same thing on a daily basis."

http://www.cnn.com/2012/01/07/justice/california-deputy-arrest/index.html?hpt=hp_c1
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Dos Equis on January 22, 2012, 10:19:46 PM
HPD officer killed Saturday night identified as Garret Davis, 28
By Dan Nakaso
POSTED: 12:05 p.m. HST, Jan 22, 2012
LAST UPDATED: 01:11 p.m. HST, Jan 22, 2012

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Honolulu Police officer Garret Davis was killed in a motor vehicle accident on the H-1 freeway eastbound in Aiea when his HPD vehicle was hit by a truck when he stopped to help a stalled motorist in the left lane.

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Police Chief Louis Kealoha identified the officer who was killed Saturday night while helping stranded motorists on the H-1 freeway as 3-year patrol officer Garret Davis as Kealoha urged Honolulu drivers to drive more carefully.

"People gotta slow down on the highways," Kealoha said today at HPD headquarters, where a memorial to Davis was set up.

Davis, 28, graduated from the HPD academy in 2008 with the 161st cadet class.

He grew up in Folsom, Calif., attended San Francisco State University and moved to Honolulu to join the police department, HPD spokeswoman Caroline Sluyter said.

Davis has a young daughter who lives in California, Sluyter said. Services are pending.

Davis was assigned to the Wahiawa sub-station and was delivering paperwork to the main headquarters on Beretania Street when he stopped in the far, left-hand lane of the east-bound, H-1 freeway at the Kaonohi Street overpass in Aiea to help a 32-year-old man and a 22-year-old woman in a stalled vehicle, Kealoha said.

He had turned on the blue lights to his patrol car when he was allegedly struck from behind by a 41-year-old man driving a Chevrolet Silverado, Kealoha said.

"Officer Davis turned on his blue lights and stopped behind the stalled vehicle to shield it from on-coming traffic and to alert other drivers to the stall," Kealoha said.

Davis' patrol car was then rammed into the stalled vehicle and caught on fire, Kealoha said.

"He didn't even have a chance to get out," Kealoha said.

Emergency Medical Services personnel said the officer's car was hit at 8:19 p.m., sending it crashing into a pickup truck.

The couple Davis was trying to help was taken to a hospital in guarded condition, Kealoha said.

The driver of the Silverado was arrested for investigation of negligent homicide when he was released from a hospital, Kealoha said.

The collision occurred in clear weather but investigators are trying to determine whether speed or alcohol were factors, Kealoha said.

"Officer Davis was a fine young officer beginning his career in HPD," Kealoha said.

In 2010, Davis received the HPD certificate of merit for helping save a suicidal woman two miles off-shore in Haleiwa while riding on a Honolulu lifeguard personal watercraft.

"Although not a swimmer himself, Officer Davis assisted lifeguards on a personal watercraft and was able to bring the woman ashore safely," Kealoha said. "Last night he was again trying to help others when the fatal collision occurred. ... We are devastated by his loss but we send our prayers and condolences to his family. This is the second time in less than six months that an HPD officer has been killed on our roadways. Our officers risk their lives daily to protect our community and I am pleading with all of you to help protect them while driving with care when you see them performing their duties on our highways."

On Sept. 13, James Dorsey Mancao's pickup truck plowed into police cars stopped beside Farrington Highway near Ko Olina. Officer Eric Fontes was struck and killed, and officer Herman Scanlan was injured.

Emergency workers are pushing lawmakers to pass a bill requiring motorists to give a one-lane safety cushion, or to slow down, when driving around an emergency vehicle stopped on the road.

http://www.staradvertiser.com/news/breaking/137857518.html?id=137857518
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: garebear on January 22, 2012, 10:24:15 PM
i get pulled over all the time but never get a ticket........i wonder why ???

bench
Corruption?

Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Agnostic007 on January 25, 2012, 12:07:13 PM
Corruption?


I'm reading an interesting book on police Ethics. Corruption of the Noble Cause. Makes reference to a Stanford University Prison Experiment back in the 70's that was quite eye opening.
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: 240 is Back on January 25, 2012, 12:14:31 PM
he's having sex in public.  tha'ts illegal.  we try that, we're going to be registered as sex offenders. 
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Skip8282 on January 25, 2012, 05:24:59 PM
HPD officer killed Saturday night identified as Garret Davis, 28
By Dan Nakaso
POSTED: 12:05 p.m. HST, Jan 22, 2012
LAST UPDATED: 01:11 p.m. HST, Jan 22, 2012

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Honolulu Police officer Garret Davis was killed in a motor vehicle accident on the H-1 freeway eastbound in Aiea when his HPD vehicle was hit by a truck when he stopped to help a stalled motorist in the left lane.

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Police Chief Louis Kealoha identified the officer who was killed Saturday night while helping stranded motorists on the H-1 freeway as 3-year patrol officer Garret Davis as Kealoha urged Honolulu drivers to drive more carefully.

"People gotta slow down on the highways," Kealoha said today at HPD headquarters, where a memorial to Davis was set up.

Davis, 28, graduated from the HPD academy in 2008 with the 161st cadet class.

He grew up in Folsom, Calif., attended San Francisco State University and moved to Honolulu to join the police department, HPD spokeswoman Caroline Sluyter said.

Davis has a young daughter who lives in California, Sluyter said. Services are pending.

Davis was assigned to the Wahiawa sub-station and was delivering paperwork to the main headquarters on Beretania Street when he stopped in the far, left-hand lane of the east-bound, H-1 freeway at the Kaonohi Street overpass in Aiea to help a 32-year-old man and a 22-year-old woman in a stalled vehicle, Kealoha said.

He had turned on the blue lights to his patrol car when he was allegedly struck from behind by a 41-year-old man driving a Chevrolet Silverado, Kealoha said.

"Officer Davis turned on his blue lights and stopped behind the stalled vehicle to shield it from on-coming traffic and to alert other drivers to the stall," Kealoha said.

Davis' patrol car was then rammed into the stalled vehicle and caught on fire, Kealoha said.

"He didn't even have a chance to get out," Kealoha said.

Emergency Medical Services personnel said the officer's car was hit at 8:19 p.m., sending it crashing into a pickup truck.

The couple Davis was trying to help was taken to a hospital in guarded condition, Kealoha said.

The driver of the Silverado was arrested for investigation of negligent homicide when he was released from a hospital, Kealoha said.

The collision occurred in clear weather but investigators are trying to determine whether speed or alcohol were factors, Kealoha said.

"Officer Davis was a fine young officer beginning his career in HPD," Kealoha said.

In 2010, Davis received the HPD certificate of merit for helping save a suicidal woman two miles off-shore in Haleiwa while riding on a Honolulu lifeguard personal watercraft.

"Although not a swimmer himself, Officer Davis assisted lifeguards on a personal watercraft and was able to bring the woman ashore safely," Kealoha said. "Last night he was again trying to help others when the fatal collision occurred. ... We are devastated by his loss but we send our prayers and condolences to his family. This is the second time in less than six months that an HPD officer has been killed on our roadways. Our officers risk their lives daily to protect our community and I am pleading with all of you to help protect them while driving with care when you see them performing their duties on our highways."

On Sept. 13, James Dorsey Mancao's pickup truck plowed into police cars stopped beside Farrington Highway near Ko Olina. Officer Eric Fontes was struck and killed, and officer Herman Scanlan was injured.

Emergency workers are pushing lawmakers to pass a bill requiring motorists to give a one-lane safety cushion, or to slow down, when driving around an emergency vehicle stopped on the road.

http://www.staradvertiser.com/news/breaking/137857518.html?id=137857518





Sad case there, such a young guy.

My brother was ass ended by a drunk one time when he had somebody pulled over.....shit's dangerous.
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Dos Equis on February 25, 2012, 05:29:58 PM
Kentucky police officer's badge stops bullet, saves life
Published February 25, 2012
FoxNews.com

Louisville, Ky. -- A Louisville Metro Police officer is recovering after being shot responding to a home invasion -- and he can thank both his protective vest and his police badge for helping save him, Fox WDRB reports.

It happened just after 1 a.m. Friday near the intersection of Taylor Boulevard and Central Avenue near Churchill Downs.


Officer Lamont Washington responded within minutes to a home invasion on Montana Avenue. When he arrived, he confronted three suspects and began chasing them. One suspect fired two shots. Both shots hit Washington — one in the chest and one in the hand.

The police badge Officer Washington was wearing actually deflected one of the bullets. That, combined with the fact that he was wearing a protective vest, kept his injuries from being much worse.
Police say Officer Washington did not return fire.

He is recovering at University Hospital, where fellow officers have stopped in the hours since the shooting to offer support. Robison says Washington has one year on patrol.
Another officer was also injured in the hand while jumping a fence to chase the suspects.

LMPD arrested two men and one juvenile and charged them with attempted murder of a police officer and robbery. 19-year-old Dominique Gosnell and 18-year-old Donald Jackson were taken to Metro Corrections and a 17-year-old male went to the Jefferson County Youth Detention Center.

Police have not said which suspect may have fired the shots.

Robison says he spoke to Officer Washington and says he was alert and "thankful he was not injured more seriously."

LMPD does not require officers to wear vests, but Robison says most officers are trained to wear them through recruit school, "so they become accustomed to them, then they normally wear it when they are on the street."

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/02/25/kentucky-police-officers-badge-stops-bullet-saves-life/?test=latestnews
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: tu_holmes on February 25, 2012, 06:35:26 PM
Time to rename the thread "badge appreciation"

His badge does more good being an inanimate object than he does.
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Agnostic007 on February 25, 2012, 10:32:18 PM
Time to rename the thread "badge appreciation"

His badge does more good being an inanimate object than he does.

yeah, forget he responded to the call, chased them.. it was the badge...

You're such a tool..
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: tu_holmes on February 26, 2012, 04:49:08 PM
yeah, forget he responded to the call, chased them.. it was the badge...

You're such a tool..

I'm sorry. Did the anonymous po-lice man get offended?

Tu Holmes.

I even have an IMDB page and you can find my mobygames.com profile also.

Me = completely open book.

You = Scared to show your face.

This is why I own firearms. Invade my house and see what happens.
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Agnostic007 on February 26, 2012, 09:55:14 PM
I'm sorry. Did the anonymous po-lice man get offended?

Tu Holmes.

I even have an IMDB page and you can find my mobygames.com profile also.

Me = completely open book.

You = Scared to show your face.

This is why I own firearms. Invade my house and see what happens.

big whoopee  ::)
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: tu_holmes on February 27, 2012, 07:41:00 AM
big whoopee  ::)

That's what I thought.

A keyboard warrior with a badge.
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Skip8282 on February 27, 2012, 02:52:53 PM
I'm sorry. Did the anonymous po-lice man get offended?

Tu Holmes.

I even have an IMDB page and you can find my mobygames.com profile also.

Me = completely open book.

You = Scared to show your face.

This is why I own firearms. Invade my house and see what happens.




I'll be damned, I looked you up and you are famous. 

Gotta hit the gym bro.

Anyway, I think you're nuts posting your info.  Not from a badass/fight/etc., thing, just from an identity theft issue.

Some of these clowns gather all your personal shit, steal your identity, wrack up bills, etc.

Maybe since your a public figure, it just comes with the terrority, but for the average schmuck that much personally identifiable stuff is uncomfortable.
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Dos Equis on March 10, 2012, 11:22:14 AM
Oregon Police Officer Saves Man's Life With CPR
CHRIS CONRAD SOURCE: MAIL TRIBUNE, MEDFORD, ORE.

March 01--The CPR skills that Medford police Officer Richard Renfro learned in the Boy Scouts helped him save the life of a man who suffered a heart attack while walking home from work last week.

Renfro was on patrol Feb. 16 near Hawthorne Park when he responded to a report of a man in possible cardiac arrest lying on the sidewalk along Spring Street in east Medford.

Renfro hit the gas and weaved through busy afternoon traffic to Spring Street, where he saw two people hunched over a man splayed on the sidewalk. The two were attempting to perform CPR.

"I could see right off that they weren't performing the CPR correctly," Renfro said.

Renfro told the pair to step back. He could see the man had turned purple and that there was no pulse.

"He was lifeless," Renfro said. "At that point you have such a small window to determine whether he would survive the heart attack or not."

The good Samaritans had been pushing lightly on the man's chest, which is not nearly enough force to push the blood through the man's heart, Renfro said.

The goal of CPR is to keep oxygenated blood moving to the body's vital organs. To do this in the event of a massive heart attack requires heavy, violent compressions delivered directly to the chest, Renfro said.

Medford police officers are taught to use a hands-only CPR technique. This means the officer performs the chest compressions without stopping to administer breaths to the victim's mouth.

"You've just got to keep that blood flowing through the heart," Renfro said.

"If you stop to do a breath, that means the blood has stopped flowing."

Renfro put all his force behind his compressions.

"As soon as I started, I could feel his breast bones popping under my hands," Renfro said. "You have to sometimes break the victim's ribs, but it's better to have broken ribs and live than die."

After several compressions, the man's color began to return to normal, Renfro said.

Soon after, Mercy Flights paramedics arrived and loaded the man in the back of an ambulance. On the way to the hospital, the paramedics gave the man a shock from a heart defibrillator to help restart his heart.

The man, who declined to be identified for this story, survived the heart attack and has since been released from the hospital.

Renfro said the 58-year-old man was walking home from his job at Providence Medford Medical Center.

"He got his exercise from his walk to and from work," Renfro said. "He nearly made it home when the heart attack hit."

Medford Fire-Rescue Chief Dave Bierwiler said his agency trains police in CPR techniques.

All Medford officers are trained in CPR and basic first-aid procedures, according to Chief Tim George.

Bierwiler said it is important for police to know CPR because they are sometimes the first to arrive on medical calls.

"They are always mobile on the road and can get there quickly," Bierwiler said. "And that first few minutes of CPR before paramedics arrive can be critical for the survival of a patient."

Renfro said he first learned CPR in the Boy Scouts as a kid. His mother, who is a nurse, was his instructor.

"I have used CPR numerous times throughout my career," Renfro said. "It doesn't work every time. In fact, most of the time the patient doesn't pull through. But there are times when it does help save someone's life."

http://www.emsworld.com/news/10635958/oregon-police-officer-saves-mans-life-with-cpr
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Dos Equis on March 10, 2012, 11:25:53 AM
Daring car fire rescue in Oregon
Tuesday, March 06, 2012
John Antalek, Eyewitness News

NORTH SALEM, O.R. (WABC) -- Two officers were awarded the medal of valor for risking their own lives to save a trapped and uncooperative driver in Oregon.

The dazed victim was hanging upside down in a car that had rolled over right next to a second car that was on fire and a downed power transformer.

Despite no cooperation, the officers managed to pull the man free and drag him to safety.

http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?section=news/national_world&id=8571358

Link to the video:  http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/video?id=8571365
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Skip8282 on March 11, 2012, 11:17:45 AM
Daring car fire rescue in Oregon
Tuesday, March 06, 2012
John Antalek, Eyewitness News

NORTH SALEM, O.R. (WABC) -- Two officers were awarded the medal of valor for risking their own lives to save a trapped and uncooperative driver in Oregon.

The dazed victim was hanging upside down in a car that had rolled over right next to a second car that was on fire and a downed power transformer.

Despite no cooperation, the officers managed to pull the man free and drag him to safety.

http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?section=news/national_world&id=8571358

Link to the video:  http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/video?id=8571365




Really?  A Medal of Valor for that?

C'mon, lol.

I'll at least give them props for getting the guy away.
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: tu_holmes on March 11, 2012, 01:05:08 PM



Really?  A Medal of Valor for that?

C'mon, lol.

I'll at least give them props for getting the guy away.

That's like that group of citizens who pulled the guy from a flaming car... Should they all get medals of valor too?

They did it FOR FREE... weren't even getting paid for it.
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Agnostic007 on March 11, 2012, 03:04:05 PM
That's like that group of citizens who pulled the guy from a flaming car... Should they all get medals of valor too?

They did it FOR FREE... weren't even getting paid for it.

each department has their own standards for receiving medals and their own medals. It's meaningless outside their department so I am missing the concern over it. What I don't miss is the way some people can find a way to badmouth cops who pull someone out of a car like it's a bad thing.


Citizens in our city get recognized on a regular basis for doing those kinds of things. It is awesome when citizens get involved
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: tu_holmes on March 11, 2012, 08:20:46 PM
each department has their own standards for receiving medals and their own medals. It's meaningless outside their department so I am missing the concern over it. What I don't miss is the way some people can find a way to badmouth cops who pull someone out of a car like it's a bad thing.


Citizens in our city get recognized on a regular basis for doing those kinds of things. It is awesome when citizens get involved
Did I badmouth them for actually doing something worthwhile?

No I did not.

I just don't see why they got a medal. However, I think it's FANTASTIC that they saved a life.
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Agnostic007 on March 12, 2012, 05:45:39 AM
That's like that group of citizens who pulled the guy from a flaming car... Should they all get medals of valor too?

They did it FOR FREE... weren't even getting paid for it.

interestingly, your original post never mentions you think it's fantastic 

"That's like that group of citizens who pulled the guy from a flaming car... Should they all get medals of valor too?

They did it FOR FREE... weren't even getting paid for it."

In fact, not one positive word about the cops, just that citizens do the same thing for free..which is more of a negative or passive aggressive thing..  It just kills you to say anything positive about cops doesn't it
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: tu_holmes on March 12, 2012, 09:43:17 AM
interestingly, your original post never mentions you think it's fantastic 

"That's like that group of citizens who pulled the guy from a flaming car... Should they all get medals of valor too?

They did it FOR FREE... weren't even getting paid for it."

In fact, not one positive word about the cops, just that citizens do the same thing for free..which is more of a negative or passive aggressive thing..  It just kills you to say anything positive about cops doesn't it

It's positive or negative. You just happen to know that cops and I are not too fond of each other so you infer negativity.

Didn't my previous post just say I think it's fantastic?

Sounds pretty positive to me. I'm not dead am I? Guess it didn't kill me after all.
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Agnostic007 on March 12, 2012, 11:55:51 AM
It's positive or negative. You just happen to know that cops and I are not too fond of each other so you infer negativity.

Didn't my previous post just say I think it's fantastic?

Sounds pretty positive to me. I'm not dead am I? Guess it didn't kill me after all.


Like pullin' teeth..
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 12, 2012, 12:22:54 PM
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=370691.0


I guess anyone dealing with these animals deserves some respect.   
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Skip8282 on March 12, 2012, 02:54:27 PM
That's like that group of citizens who pulled the guy from a flaming car... Should they all get medals of valor too?

They did it FOR FREE... weren't even getting paid for it.



You've got to watch the vid, it's in the first link.  Props for taking action, but hardly "Medal of Valor" worthy.
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Skip8282 on March 12, 2012, 02:56:12 PM
each department has their own standards for receiving medals and their own medals. It's meaningless outside their department




I don't buy that bullshit for a minute.  That goes on the resume, it looks damn good if they want to go to another department or even a civilian job.
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Agnostic007 on March 12, 2012, 03:08:36 PM


I don't buy that bullshit for a minute.  That goes on the resume, it looks damn good if they want to go to another department or even a civilian job.

Skip, MOST cops around here tend to stay here their entire career so it's irrelevant.

Most departments would likely view medals with a grain of salt because we KNOW many of them are B.S.

Many departments have different medals that would likely have been more appropriate, but in their department maybe thats all they had that fit as close to the bill as possible.

Here to get a Medal of Valor you better have run into a burning building to rescue a crippled child and his puppy while taking fire from an assault rifle. Otherwise you ain't getting one.

But again, outside their Department, and probably within their Department, it isn't a big deal
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Skip8282 on March 12, 2012, 03:16:39 PM

Here to get a Medal of Valor you better have run into a burning building to rescue a crippled child and his puppy while taking fire from an assault rifle. Otherwise you ain't getting one.




Now that's the way you would expect to get a Medal of Valor.  That shit in the vid is comical.
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Agnostic007 on March 12, 2012, 03:23:00 PM

Now that's the way you would expect to get a Medal of Valor.  That shit in the vid is comical.

Yeah, they did a good job, not seeing a Medal of Valor there
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: tu_holmes on March 12, 2012, 03:25:50 PM


You've got to watch the vid, it's in the first link.  Props for taking action, but hardly "Medal of Valor" worthy.

BWAHAHAHA!!!!

Medal of Valor for grabbing a foot and pulling.

Unbelievable what passes for Valor in this day and age... Agnostic should at least admit that these guys didn't really put themselves in "harms way" to do it.

Can we get an admission there dude?
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Agnostic007 on March 12, 2012, 03:26:27 PM
Yeah, they did a good job, not seeing a Medal of Valor there


see above
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: tu_holmes on March 12, 2012, 03:27:34 PM

see above

Noted.
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Agnostic007 on April 11, 2012, 07:19:32 AM
Heading to a funeral for fallen APD officer Jaime Padron. He was shot and killed last Friday responding to a suspicious person call at a Wal-Mart at 2am. He left behind 2 children. He was a member of our department for 3 yrs, and a former San Angelo Police Officer for about 13 yrs.
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Dos Equis on April 11, 2012, 09:09:43 AM
Heading to a funeral for fallen APD officer Jaime Padron. He was shot and killed last Friday responding to a suspicious person call at a Wal-Mart at 2am. He left behind 2 children. He was a member of our department for 3 yrs, and a former San Angelo Police Officer for about 13 yrs.

RIP

Austin prepares to remember murdered police officer Jaime Padron
April 10, 2012
By John Hambrick

(http://digitaltexan.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/jaime-padron.jpg)
Funeral services will begin Tuesday evening for fallen Austin Police Officer Jaime Padron.

Visitation will begin at 6 p.m. at the Cook Walden Funeral Home on North Lamar. The public is welcome to attend. Padron’s funeral is scheduled for Wednesday at Shoreline Church on Burnett Road.

A funeral procession from 1 p.m. to 4 p.m. on Wednesday will give people in Austin a chance to pay their respect to Padron before his body is taken to San Angelo for burial.

The funeral procession route will be as follows:

Northbound on Burnet Road to Hwy 45 Frontage Road.
Eastbound Highway 45 Frontage Road to IH-35
Southbound on IH-35 to Ben White Flyover
Westbound Ben White Boulevard to Highway 290 West
Westbound Highway 290 West to State Highway 71 West
Westbound on State Highway 71 West to the intersection of FM 620
The Austin Police Department is asking drivers to be patient as the procession is likely to cause traffic delays as the procession moves throughout the city.

(http://digitaltexan.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/brandon-daniel2.jpg)
Cop killer Brandon Daniel was depressed over a recent breakup with a girlfriend.

Padron was gunned down last Thursday at a North Austin Walmart by a man high on Xanax and tequila. 24-year-old Brandon Daniel was arrested on the scene and has since been charged with capital murder.

The Colorado native is a software engineer at Hewlett Packard in Austin. Daniel’s mother told reporters that her son has been suffering from depression because of a recent break up with a girlfriend. He turned to booze and pills to ease the pain.

But Daniel’s excuses do little to ease the pain he inflicted on Padron’s family and colleagues in law enforcement. Padron leaves behind two young daughters. Padron was a decorated veteran of the Marine Corps. and a Senior Police Officer with APD.

Officer Padron served as a rifleman in the United States Marine Corps from 1989 to 1993. He achieved the rank of Corporal/E-4 and was assigned to the 3rd Battalion, 1st Marines.  He received an Honorable Discharge.

He received the following commendations/awards:

Two meritorious mast awards for distinguished service
Good Conduct medal
National Defense Medal
Southeast Asia Service Medal with 3 stars/clusters
Kuwaiti Liberation Medal
Saudi Arabian Medal
Sea Service Deployment Ribbon with 1 star/cluster
Navy Unit Citation Ribbon
Combat Action Ribbon

Awards from the Austin Police Department:
Safe Driving ribbon
Military Service Ribbon
Academic Achievement Ribbon
Master Peace Officer Ribbon
Purple Heart with Valor Medal

. . . .

http://digitaltexan.net/2012/austin-local-news/austin-prepares-remember-murdered-police-officer-jaime-padron/article31354/#.T4WgPxx_3n0
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Agnostic007 on April 12, 2012, 07:08:00 AM
The services for Officer Padron was fitting for such an officer. Thousands of police were in attendance, many from all over the country. The Fire Departments, EMS and other emergency workers showed up to pay their respects. It was a touching experience. But what humbled me most was when escorting the funeral procession down IH35, seeing miles of citizens standing along the side of the road holding flags and banners, some with their hands over their hearts, some saluting.. It reminded me of why and who we do these things for and honestly, I've never been more proud of my city.   
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 12, 2012, 03:06:08 PM
Fucking ridiculous that these assholes have to take others down with them.   Why didnt this jerkoff just kill himself? 
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Skip8282 on April 12, 2012, 04:49:49 PM
RIP

Austin prepares to remember murdered police officer Jaime Padron
April 10, 2012
By John Hambrick

(http://digitaltexan.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/jaime-padron.jpg)
Funeral services will begin Tuesday evening for fallen Austin Police Officer Jaime Padron.

Visitation will begin at 6 p.m. at the Cook Walden Funeral Home on North Lamar. The public is welcome to attend. Padron’s funeral is scheduled for Wednesday at Shoreline Church on Burnett Road.

A funeral procession from 1 p.m. to 4 p.m. on Wednesday will give people in Austin a chance to pay their respect to Padron before his body is taken to San Angelo for burial.

The funeral procession route will be as follows:

Northbound on Burnet Road to Hwy 45 Frontage Road.
Eastbound Highway 45 Frontage Road to IH-35
Southbound on IH-35 to Ben White Flyover
Westbound Ben White Boulevard to Highway 290 West
Westbound Highway 290 West to State Highway 71 West
Westbound on State Highway 71 West to the intersection of FM 620
The Austin Police Department is asking drivers to be patient as the procession is likely to cause traffic delays as the procession moves throughout the city.

(http://digitaltexan.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/brandon-daniel2.jpg)
Cop killer Brandon Daniel was depressed over a recent breakup with a girlfriend.

Padron was gunned down last Thursday at a North Austin Walmart by a man high on Xanax and tequila. 24-year-old Brandon Daniel was arrested on the scene and has since been charged with capital murder.

The Colorado native is a software engineer at Hewlett Packard in Austin. Daniel’s mother told reporters that her son has been suffering from depression because of a recent break up with a girlfriend. He turned to booze and pills to ease the pain.

But Daniel’s excuses do little to ease the pain he inflicted on Padron’s family and colleagues in law enforcement. Padron leaves behind two young daughters. Padron was a decorated veteran of the Marine Corps. and a Senior Police Officer with APD.

Officer Padron served as a rifleman in the United States Marine Corps from 1989 to 1993. He achieved the rank of Corporal/E-4 and was assigned to the 3rd Battalion, 1st Marines.  He received an Honorable Discharge.

He received the following commendations/awards:

Two meritorious mast awards for distinguished service
Good Conduct medal
National Defense Medal
Southeast Asia Service Medal with 3 stars/clusters
Kuwaiti Liberation Medal
Saudi Arabian Medal
Sea Service Deployment Ribbon with 1 star/cluster
Navy Unit Citation Ribbon
Combat Action Ribbon

Awards from the Austin Police Department:
Safe Driving ribbon
Military Service Ribbon
Academic Achievement Ribbon
Master Peace Officer Ribbon
Purple Heart with Valor Medal

. . . .

http://digitaltexan.net/2012/austin-local-news/austin-prepares-remember-murdered-police-officer-jaime-padron/article31354/#.T4WgPxx_3n0





RIP.


Won't help his family...but if that little nerd gets convicted, he's probably gonna get pounded night after night after night.
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Dos Equis on December 23, 2014, 07:56:20 AM
RIP.

New Yorkers honor slain police officers with tributes across the city
BY DUSTIN DRANKOWSKI

In the wake of a shocking attack Saturday that left two NYPD officers dead, New Yorkers held vigils and remembered the slain men in ceremonies around the city.

NYPD officers Rafael Ramos, 40, and Wenjian Liu, 32, were shot, "execution style" while on patrol. The attacker, 28-year-old Ismaaiyl Brinsley, had posted threatening messages on social media prior to the attack. He later killed himself in a nearby subway station.

On Sunday, a vigil was held on the Brooklyn street where the two were attacked while sitting in their patrol car. New York sports teams honored the officers with moments of silence and other tributes this weekend. In a tweet, NYPD Commissioner William Bratton thanked "the many sports teams that have shown their support for the NYPD and honored Police Officers Liu and Ramos."

(http://rack.1.mshcdn.com/media/ZgkyMDE0LzEyLzIyLzk4L255cGRvZmZpY2VyLmQzNjU0LmpwZwpwCXRodW1iCTE0NDB4MTAwMD4KZQlqcGc/5f5edf23/465/nypd-officer-vigils-01.jpg)
New York Police Department officer Jason Muller salutes during the national anthem after participating in a moment of silence for two slain NYPD officers before an NBA basketball game between the Brooklyn Nets and the Detroit Pistons on December 21, 2014.

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New York Police Department officers Mark Cava, left, and Jason Muller during in a moment of silence before a Brooklyn Nets and Detroit Pistons basketball game.

(http://rack.1.mshcdn.com/media/ZgkyMDE0LzEyLzIyLzk4L255cGRvZmZpY2VyLmY1ODZlLmpwZwpwCXRodW1iCTE0NDB4MTAwMD4KZQlqcGc/8a82201e/e9f/nypd-officer-vigils-03.jpg)
People visit the memorial at the corner Tompkins Ave and Myrtle Ave on December 21, 2014 in New York near the site where the two NYPD officers were shot dead in a patrol car on December 20, 2014.

(http://rack.0.mshcdn.com/media/ZgkyMDE0LzEyLzIyLzk4L255cGRvZmZpY2VyLjQ4MDFhLmpwZwpwCXRodW1iCTE0NDB4MTAwMD4KZQlqcGc/d5243cc3/b40/nypd-officer-vigils-04.jpg)
Police officers visit the memorial of the two police officers murdered on Saturday in New York City.

(http://rack.2.mshcdn.com/media/ZgkyMDE0LzEyLzIyLzk4L255cGRvZmZpY2VyLmQ1MzFmLmpwZwpwCXRodW1iCTE0NDB4MTAwMD4KZQlqcGc/2e35c02b/58f/nypd-officer-vigils-05.jpg)
Flowers lay at the memorial near the corner of Tompkins Ave and Myrtle Ave on December 21, 2014 near the site where two New York City police officers were shot dead in a patrol car. Police officers Rafael Ramos and Wenjian Liu were sitting in a marked police car in front of 98 Tompkins Avenue in Bedford-Stuyvesant neighborhood of Brooklyn when the suspect, identified as 28-year-old Ismaaiyl Brinsley, shot them ambush-style, officials said.

(http://rack.2.mshcdn.com/media/ZgkyMDE0LzEyLzIyLzk4L255cGRvZmZpY2VyLjUzYWRhLmpwZwpwCXRodW1iCTE0NDB4MTAwMD4KZQlqcGc/49681ad2/121/nypd-officer-vigils-06.jpg)
Police officers line-up to pay their respects at a memorial during a vigil for two New York City police officers at the location where they were killed on December 21, 2014.

. . .

http://mashable.com/2014/12/22/new-york-honors-slain-police-officers/
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Jack T. Cross on December 24, 2014, 11:38:26 AM
RIP.

New Yorkers honor slain police officers with tributes across the city
BY DUSTIN DRANKOWSKI

In the wake of a shocking attack Saturday that left two NYPD officers dead, New Yorkers held vigils and remembered the slain men in ceremonies around the city.

NYPD officers Rafael Ramos, 40, and Wenjian Liu, 32, were shot, "execution style" while on patrol. The attacker, 28-year-old Ismaaiyl Brinsley, had posted threatening messages on social media prior to the attack. He later killed himself in a nearby subway station.

On Sunday, a vigil was held on the Brooklyn street where the two were attacked while sitting in their patrol car. New York sports teams honored the officers with moments of silence and other tributes this weekend. In a tweet, NYPD Commissioner William Bratton thanked "the many sports teams that have shown their support for the NYPD and honored Police Officers Liu and Ramos."

(http://rack.1.mshcdn.com/media/ZgkyMDE0LzEyLzIyLzk4L255cGRvZmZpY2VyLmQzNjU0LmpwZwpwCXRodW1iCTE0NDB4MTAwMD4KZQlqcGc/5f5edf23/465/nypd-officer-vigils-01.jpg)
New York Police Department officer Jason Muller salutes during the national anthem after participating in a moment of silence for two slain NYPD officers before an NBA basketball game between the Brooklyn Nets and the Detroit Pistons on December 21, 2014.

(http://rack.0.mshcdn.com/media/ZgkyMDE0LzEyLzIyLzk4L255cGRvZmZpY2VyLjM4Njg2LmpwZwpwCXRodW1iCTE0NDB4MTAwMD4KZQlqcGc/b13b10da/f7d/nypd-officer-vigils-02.jpg)
New York Police Department officers Mark Cava, left, and Jason Muller during in a moment of silence before a Brooklyn Nets and Detroit Pistons basketball game.

(http://rack.1.mshcdn.com/media/ZgkyMDE0LzEyLzIyLzk4L255cGRvZmZpY2VyLmY1ODZlLmpwZwpwCXRodW1iCTE0NDB4MTAwMD4KZQlqcGc/8a82201e/e9f/nypd-officer-vigils-03.jpg)
People visit the memorial at the corner Tompkins Ave and Myrtle Ave on December 21, 2014 in New York near the site where the two NYPD officers were shot dead in a patrol car on December 20, 2014.

(http://rack.0.mshcdn.com/media/ZgkyMDE0LzEyLzIyLzk4L255cGRvZmZpY2VyLjQ4MDFhLmpwZwpwCXRodW1iCTE0NDB4MTAwMD4KZQlqcGc/d5243cc3/b40/nypd-officer-vigils-04.jpg)
Police officers visit the memorial of the two police officers murdered on Saturday in New York City.

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Flowers lay at the memorial near the corner of Tompkins Ave and Myrtle Ave on December 21, 2014 near the site where two New York City police officers were shot dead in a patrol car. Police officers Rafael Ramos and Wenjian Liu were sitting in a marked police car in front of 98 Tompkins Avenue in Bedford-Stuyvesant neighborhood of Brooklyn when the suspect, identified as 28-year-old Ismaaiyl Brinsley, shot them ambush-style, officials said.

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Police officers line-up to pay their respects at a memorial during a vigil for two New York City police officers at the location where they were killed on December 21, 2014.

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http://mashable.com/2014/12/22/new-york-honors-slain-police-officers/

R.I.P.

Pray for the families. Christmas will never be the same for them.
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Rhino on December 24, 2014, 09:41:39 PM
We should boycott the athletes that don't give a shit about our police and military. When the shit hits the fan, no one is going to give a damn about some guy getting millions to chase a ball  >:(
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: RRKore on December 24, 2014, 10:10:58 PM
We should boycott the athletes that don't give a shit about our police and military. When the shit hits the fan, no one is going to give a damn about some guy getting millions to chase a ball  >:(



You sure?  What exactly do you mean by "when shit hits the fan"?

Wasn't baseball popular as a mofo during the height of the depression?

Personally, I couldn't give two shits about the politics of athletes I like to watch.  I just want to see the best compete against the best.
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Dos Equis on December 30, 2014, 02:23:30 PM
Stop lying about the cops
By Rich Lowry
December 24, 2014

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We have heard a lot lately about tensions between the police and the communities that they serve, and the urgent need to reduce them. Here’s an easy first step: Stop lying about the cops.

The “national conversation” about race and policing we’ve been having ever since Michael Brown was shot by Officer Darren Wilson in Ferguson, Mo., last summer has been based on lies.

The lie that Officer Wilson shot Brown while he had his hands up and was pleading “Don’t shoot.”

The lie that New York City policemen targeted Eric Garner for a violent arrest because he was black.

The lie, peddled especially by the progressive prince of New York City, Mayor de Blasio, that the police are racist.

These are the lies that fuel hatred for the police, because if the police routinely execute black men in cold blood and serve a thoroughly racist system, they deserve to be hated.

They should be the subject of nightly protests. They should be showered with obloquy.

They should be harried by Attorney General Eric Holder.

They should be considered a stain on the national conscience to be extricated at all costs.

This is the line of reasoning that leads to protesters chanting: “What do we want? Dead cops. When do we want them? Now.”

His rote praise of the police notwithstanding, especially now that he is under so much political pressure after the murders of Officers Rafael Ramos and Wenjian Liu, Mayor de Blasio is deeply invested in this smear.

It is why he has made career anti-police agitator Al Sharpton practically deputy police commissioner.

It is why he considers the police a clear and present danger to his biracial son, Dante.

It is why he said the tragic death of Eric Garner in police custody was the product of “centuries of racism.”

The logic of the de Blasio view tends toward the conclusion that the police are unbelievably insidious: They recruit people of all races to go into dangerous neighborhoods on the pretense of protecting innocent people there, when in reality the mission is to harass black kids and, should the opportunity arise, kill them.

If this were true, it would make the police as a class not just racists, but sociopaths.

It fails the basic standard of common sense, and defies the numbers.

As Heather Mac Donald of City Journal writes: “Criminologists have spent decades trying to prove that the overrepresentation of blacks and Hispanic in prison demonstrates that the criminal justice system is racist. And each time they fail. Even the most left-wing academics have been forced to admit that crime, not race, determines criminal justice outcomes.”

Police go where the crime is, and at considerable risk to themselves.

Surely, if their own comfort and safety were all that mattered to them, they would spend all their time patrolling the poshest neighborhoods in America.
Police critics have taken Ferguson and Garner and have woven them into a narrative of reckless disregard for the lives of blacks.

After the grand jury declined to indict in the Garner case, de Blasio referred to a “profound” crisis. The numbers suggest the opposite: As crime has declined — thanks, in part, to rigorous policing — police interactions with the public have declined and have involved fewer instances of the use of force.
Our national conversation has been a national fever. Now, perhaps it will break.

As Jaden Ramos, the 13-year-old son of Rafael Ramos, wrote in a heartbreaking Facebook post about his dad:

“Everyone says they hate cops but they are the people that they call for help.”

There is more wisdom in that simple statement than in most of the cable chatter, protest chants and op-eds written in the wake of Ferguson and the Garner case.

If we really want to reduce tensions between the community and men like Officer Rafael Ramos, it is imperative, first, to stop lying about the police.

http://nypost.com/2014/12/24/lying-about-the-cops/
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Dos Equis on January 05, 2015, 12:43:52 PM
FBI chief Comey says at Liu's funeral that number of 2014 police deaths is 'shocking'
Published January 04, 2015
FoxNews.com

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Jan. 4, 2015: Police officers at funeral for New York police Officer Wenjian Liu at Aievoli Funeral Home, Brooklyn, N.Y. (AP)

FBI Director James Comey on Sunday honored murdered New York City Police Officer Wenjian Liu and remarked that he was shocked and bewildered by the increased number of police officer deaths in 2014.

“One hundred and fifteen were killed last year,” he said. “That’s a shocking increase from 2013. I don’t understand evil and I cannot try.”

Comey was the highest-ranking Obama administration official to attend Liu’s memorial service at a Brooklyn funeral home.

Liu was killed Dec. 20 with fellow Officer Rafael Ramos inside their police car in Brooklyn.

The shooter, Ismaaiyl Brinsley, who killed himself after the murders, suggested on social media before carrying the deadly shooting that the killings were in retaliation for two unarmed black males -- Eric Garner and Michael Brown -- dying last year during separate encounters with police.

The FBI report on officers killed last year was released before the deaths of Liu and Ramos, though similar reports show about 115 to 120 officers killed in the line of duty, including about 50 by a firearm. The agency’s 2013 report states 76 law enforcement officers were killed while on duty.

Though numbers vary among similar reports, including how many officers were fatally shot, all appear to show an increase since 2013 and a decline since the historical highs of past decades.

Vice President Biden spoke Dec. 27 at Ramos’ memorial service at the Christ Tabernacle Church in Queens.

On Sunday, Comey said he came to Liu’s memorial to “honor a peace maker” and that Americans need to “make something good out of the tragedy … so that evil does not rule the day.”

The event also was attended by thousands of police officers and New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio.

The 32-year-old Liu also was remembered as an incarnation of the American Dream. He emigrated from China at 12 and devoted himself to helping others in his adopted country.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/01/04/fbi-chief-comey-says-at-liu-funeral-that-number-2014-police-deaths-is-shocking/?intcmp=trending
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Dos Equis on October 16, 2017, 07:37:19 PM
FBI: Police Deaths on Duty Spiked in 2016
Monday, 16 Oct 2017

Sixty-six police officers were killed on the job by felons in 2016, up about 61 percent from 41 deaths a year ago, the U.S. Federal Bureau of Investigation said on Monday.

The number was the second highest since 2011, when 72 officers were killed by felons, according to the FBI report.

U.S. Attorney General Jeff Sessions in a statement called the numbers "shocking" and "unacceptable," and said the Justice Department would work toward reducing violent crime.

The findings bolster the so-called Blue Lives Matter movement, which advocates tougher hate-crime sentences for the murder of police officers. It was launched in response to Black Lives Matter, a campaign against police brutality toward black men, and gained momentum last year after police officers were killed in both Dallas and Baton Rouge.

Forty-one officers killed last year were employed by city police departments, and 30 officers were located in the U.S. South, the annual data show.

The most common circumstances involved ambushes, followed by responses to disturbance calls.

Accidental deaths of police officers in 2016 rose to 52 from 45 in 2015, mostly involving vehicles, the data show.

Another 57,180 officers were assaulted in the line of duty in 2016, and 16,535 (or about 29 percent) sustained injuries from that assault.

"All of these numbers increased from figures reported in 2015, when 45 officers died accidentally and 41 were feloniously killed in the line of duty," the FBI said. A total of 50,212 assaults were reported in 2015.

Earlier this year, President Donald Trump issued an executive order directing the Justice Department to develop strategies to better protect law enforcement officials and pursue legislation to increase penalties against those who kill or injure officers in the line of duty.   

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/police-deaths-spike-2016/2017/10/16/id/820055/
Title: Re: Law Enforcement Appreciation
Post by: Agnostic007 on October 18, 2017, 01:58:09 PM
FBI: Police Deaths on Duty Spiked in 2016
Monday, 16 Oct 2017

Sixty-six police officers were killed on the job by felons in 2016, up about 61 percent from 41 deaths a year ago, the U.S. Federal Bureau of Investigation said on Monday.

The number was the second highest since 2011, when 72 officers were killed by felons, according to the FBI report.

U.S. Attorney General Jeff Sessions in a statement called the numbers "shocking" and "unacceptable," and said the Justice Department would work toward reducing violent crime.

The findings bolster the so-called Blue Lives Matter movement, which advocates tougher hate-crime sentences for the murder of police officers. It was launched in response to Black Lives Matter, a campaign against police brutality toward black men, and gained momentum last year after police officers were killed in both Dallas and Baton Rouge.

Forty-one officers killed last year were employed by city police departments, and 30 officers were located in the U.S. South, the annual data show.

The most common circumstances involved ambushes, followed by responses to disturbance calls.

Accidental deaths of police officers in 2016 rose to 52 from 45 in 2015, mostly involving vehicles, the data show.

Another 57,180 officers were assaulted in the line of duty in 2016, and 16,535 (or about 29 percent) sustained injuries from that assault.

"All of these numbers increased from figures reported in 2015, when 45 officers died accidentally and 41 were feloniously killed in the line of duty," the FBI said. A total of 50,212 assaults were reported in 2015.

Earlier this year, President Donald Trump issued an executive order directing the Justice Department to develop strategies to better protect law enforcement officials and pursue legislation to increase penalties against those who kill or injure officers in the line of duty.   

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/police-deaths-spike-2016/2017/10/16/id/820055/

Not a great time to be a police officer. The risks are higher and the hatred of police is much higher by certain segments. I understand some police officers have done a great job of screwing up public trust, but the vitriol doesn't match the reality IMO